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Saint Peters Mountain Complex
The Corporate Alliance space assets were virtually destroyed. Now, it was simply time to finish off the remaining assets of Maldorians. It took some hours for the new data to be arranged, but it soon was. They would simply see it as a second wave attack. Over four-thousand anti-orbital missiles were fired from a variety of platforms, ensuring the destruction of every last satellite in the entire area, including allied orbitals and any neutrals capable of detecting the strike. They would have no way of tracing the nuclear missiles that were about to be launched on their pathetic excuse for a country.

TPFS Blue November
" Code, 10-10-57-80-91-100-22, Alpha-Bravo-Romeo. Code confirmed as NCA."
" Code confirmed as NCA."
" Petty Officer, retrieve the key from Captain's Locker."
" Aye Sir. I have retrieved the key from Captain's Locker."
" Turn over the key."
" aye, key turned over."
" Petty Officer, confirm targets."
" Targets confirmed."
" Commander, insert key."
" Key inserted."
"3...2...1... turn key."
There was a loud whomp and 6,000 missiles from three hundred October-class submarines launched into the air from more than 4,000 miles away from the maldorian homeland, 5,000 of them carrying ten five megaton nuclear warheads each, and targeting the largest cities and military bases. The rest each carried ten neutron bombs, designed to radiate the countryside for years to come.

OOC: Now that his Nation has been glassed can I start an Ice Skating Rink?(He did it to me):p

OOC: You've destroyed 4000 neutral, hostile, and friendly satellites outright. That includes possible manned space stations. Supply barges for other manned space stations. Telstars, satellite communications satellites, etc.

Worldwide television blackouts, cell phone failures, trillions in losses and some human loss of life too. There are also 4000 dead and dying satellites and missile parts floating through space, smashing into other satellites, creating a pile of debris knocking out more satellites.

The reason you cannot have perfect detection and destroy only satellites capable of tracking ballistic missiles is that you cannot detect what a satellite is just by looking at it. And there is no international database of satellites out there. There are conceivably dozens of disguised satellite designs for detection.

Of course there are just as many satellites designed to protect themselves, with missiles, lasers, and microsats. Attacking them regardless, without informing the nations that you are about to do this would create a MAD type situation, and with this launch and your disabling their capabilities means there should be a bunch of nations suddenly panicking that they are about to be nuked by whoever owned those stations, something they can determine just before you blew them up.

Geosync satellites cover a massive portion of the earth at a time, so any nation in that hemisphere of Maldorians just got their detection satellites knocked out. They'll think the strike is coming at them.

Theoretically if Automagfreek is on the same side of the Earth as Maldorians, he'll suddenly find his satellites under attack, and nuclear missiles in the air.

Those that lost the ability to track missiles can no longer determine where these missiles are coming from, but only determine that there are missiles in the air via over the horizon RADAR, and they could be heading for them. But they know who destroyed their satellite seconds before the missiles were launched.

Due to bureaucratic reasons these people will probably start having only 1 hour to retaliate. Even less time if there are interceptors in the air among those missiles, if they have to guess because they have no satellites. So they have to launch in the next few minutes.

So theoretically any nation could jump into this thread right now, claim you are about to annihilate them for no reason, and send a retaliatory strike.

OOC:ahh, I still get to go Ice Skating!!!! I'll invite all the Parliament Members:)

OOC:ahh, I still get to go Ice Skating!!!! I'll invite all the Parliament Members:)

OOC: If you are in the same hemisphere as Maldorians, the TPE has just destroyed your ballistic missile shield and possibly launching a massive up to 60,000 warhead nuclear strike at you! RETALIATE NOW!

Without satellites, that means only your Over the Horizon RADAR can see the launch, and your ground stations. That means you have less than an hour, maybe even only 30 minutes. And imagine you are on the silo level, in a decentralized unit. YOU MUST RETALIATE NOW.

OOC: If you are in the same hemisphere as Maldorians, the TPE has just destroyed your ballistic missile shield and possibly launching a massive up to 60,000 warhead nuclear strike at you! RETALIATE NOW!

OOC: Meh, more like the same region and surrounding regions. Not a whole hemisphere, as NS earth is unbearably large. And, all they would see on their radar is those nukes, so how would they know who sent them?

OOC: Meh, more like the same region and surrounding regions. Not a whole hemisphere, as NS earth is unbearably large.

OOC: Large is a understatment, good thing for being in the south pasific

OOC:Yep, I am far away in real world America!!!

OOC: Meh, more like the same region and surrounding regions. Not a whole hemisphere, as NS earth is unbearably large.

OOC: If anything, Maldorians could have dozens of neighbors around him, Geosync on a very large planet is very high up to stay put. That means a very large area beneath. Even then, there should be dozens if not hundreds of nations and alliances screaming left and right, and wondering if this is it, or if this is a trick.

Remember if you believe his lies and they do land on your shores, that means you've lost the ability to retaliate.

Also with each missile conceivably carrying up to 10 warheads, that is a lot of radiation pollution. The damage it could do would be severe and could result in world changing radiation showers for years to come. A horrible black rain.

OOC: Large is a understatment, good thing for being in the south pasific

OOC:Yep, I am far away in real world America!!!

OOC: Satellites don't always hover in one point. Your ballistic missile shield and detection systems could be in different orbits and just happen to be over Maldorians.

If you just had your ballistic missile shield attacked, your communications satellites destroyed, and your Over the Horizon RADAR detects nuclear launches, on a massive scale, up to 60,000 warheads, and you had less than an hour to react.

Would you believe it?

You should retaliate now.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, by damaging worldwide communications there should be a separate force panicking everyone.

With dozens of nations going on DEFCON 1 or DEFCON 2 in a few minutes the news media should be chomping at the bit. And due to communications dropouts they could report that they've lost contact with their affliate station in so and so city. That means THEY COULD HAVE BEEN NUKED ALREADY.

The public opinion would swing to retaliate now. Phone lines would flood meaning land based lines will be overrun and the Internet should crawl to a standstill in the panic.

RETALIATE NOW is the overriding theme.

OOC: Then the question is, retaliate against who? However, one of my friends just reminded me that we had agreed to no nukes in this war, a fact I had forgotten, so as much as i'd like to continue nuking, we must pretend this never happened :(

OOC: Then the question is, retaliate against who? However, one of my friends just reminded me that we had agreed to no nukes in this war, a fact I had forgotten, so as much as i'd like to continue nuking, we must pretend this never happened :(

OOC: For the sake of argument despite this being retconned, the ASAT missiles used to take out detection satalites would have been detected before impact, and would have easily given up that it was you who attacked them. Thus it's logical to assume if you did the ASAT stuff, you're doing the nuking, and respond thusly.

OOC: Then the question is, retaliate against who? However, one of my friends just reminded me that we had agreed to no nukes in this war, a fact I had forgotten, so as much as i'd like to continue nuking, we must pretend this never happened :(

Who?

Of course there are just as many satellites designed to protect themselves, with missiles, lasers, and microsats. Attacking them regardless, without informing the nations that you are about to do this would create a MAD type situation, and with this launch and your disabling their capabilities means there should be a bunch of nations suddenly panicking that they are about to be nuked by whoever owned those stations, something they can determine just before you blew them up.

Those that lost the ability to track missiles can no longer determine where these missiles are coming from, but only determine that there are missiles in the air via over the horizon RADAR, and they could be heading for them. But they know who destroyed their satellite seconds before the missiles were launched.

OOC: Leaf, seriously quit it with the OOC BS. We really don't want to hear it.

OOC: For the sake of argument despite this being retconned, the ASAT missiles used to take out detection satalites would have been detected before impact, and would have easily given up that it was you who attacked them. Thus it's logical to assume if you did the ASAT stuff, you're doing the nuking, and respond thusly.

OOC: Yeah, you're right. So is leaf for that matter. Still would have taken the consequences like a man however. :p Come to think of it, I could have done it without the ASAT launch, since they were launched via submarine, and he wouldn't have known who's subs they were.

All of a sudden millions of men and only a few thousand women in the Hills were wondering, What happened to my porn?

All of a sudden millions of men and only a few thousand women in the Hills were wondering, What happened to my porn?

OOC: This is enough reason for a massive retaliatory nuclear strike. Especially in places like The World Soviet Party.

OOC: Leaf, seriously quit it with the OOC BS. We really don't want to hear it.

OOC: No. He is perfectly right. You, on the other hand, are just looking for a chance to attack me, be it wanking or not...;)

OOC: Aurum, how about you shut up for once? Leafy has been making extremely valid points, unlike you.

OCC: How about we close this thread. Done, and gone.

OOC: Uhhh... Am I the only one who thinks that he really just fucked up at least half the NS world? Even if the size of it is supposed to be several times that of the real world, a nuclear attack of that size would be likely to trigger a nuclear winter on an epic scale...

Uhhh... Am I the only one who thinks that he really just fucked up at least half the NS world? Even if the size of it is supposed to be several times that of the real world, a nuclear attack of that size would be likely to trigger a nuclear winter on an epic scale...

You hadnt seen BL's strike then. It dwarfed this one.

Qadesh, as humble and respectful people, utterly oppose and condemn your approval of the nuclear option. WE see your threats as misplaced, and your claims baseless. If you truly think the Maldorians are guilty of an international incident, you go through proper channels and use the UN, make a resolution. Or, failing that, establish a court of inquiry into the matter...you have NO RIGHT to used nuclear ordinates in this case....if you do Qadesh, by virtue of its full alliance with the Maldorians must respond with our Brothers.

David Edward, Dictator of Qadesh

The Maldorians are noble and respectful people...staunch soldiers and competent administrators. Your baseless claims smudge their pristine reputation...Rethink what you are doing....once you head down this path, you CANNOT turn back...

OOC: Uhhh... Am I the only one who thinks that he really just fucked up at least half the NS world? Even if the size of it is supposed to be several times that of the real world, a nuclear attack of that size would be likely to trigger a nuclear winter on an epic scale...

[ LOL.

There have been strikes exponentially larger than this one—one made an irradiated inland sea out of a nation. The only reason we avoid having ecological impact is through wank and conveniently-short memories. ]

CBC World Headquarters
Coricas, Cookesland
12:04 PM

"Wait wait...so let me get this straight most of our satellites are gone now because....?"

"We're not sure of that, sir. Most cell phones and networks are dead."

"So get a land line!"

Port Imbris Stock Exchange
Port Imbris, Cookesland
12:04 PM

"What happened? Everything just went blank.."

"What?"

"What's going on?"

"A terrorist attack?"


S.S. J. Benjamin Spinner
2 miles off Cookeslandic Coast
12:04 PM

"Sir, the radar's just gone dead."

"What?"

"It just went blank and then *poof* it was gone."

"In all the places we could be...the Bight of Ariana...radio all nearby ships, double the watch."

"Yes, sir."


[OoC: The people of Cookesland send their many thanks.]

OoC: The attack happened?

OOC: Yea I know there have been larger ones but this just pisses me off...

They'd better not touch my satellites.

-Attributed to Sacred Emperor Ishamael upon hearing of the nuclear fuckfest occurring half the globe away.

this never happened

[ Increase-o-vision, only made by Adygea. ]

[ Increase-o-vision, only made by Adygea. ]


Quote for Truth, me always says.

If TPF launched 'em, nuke shields would have covered me and everyone would have...not liked TPF...xD

Quote for Truth, me always says.

If TPF launched 'em, nuke shields would have covered me and everyone would have...not liked TPF...xD

OoC: QFT, lets all stop the QQ and get with the pewpew

OOC:

BL, after all you shot around...you shouldn't be telling people what to do, k?

TPF, are you out of your mind? That would proceed to lose you half of your alliance, as well as getting half the world pissed to (aye, if you shot down my sats...I would be pissed).