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Looking to start a war

The Grand Rebels
24-08-2007, 15:48
Hello to all reading this, I am the leader of The Grand Rebels, Maesong Heist and I would like to say that my nation would like to sign a treaty with any nation that would like to join my guest for world domination. These are my weapons and soldiers so far and anyone who wants to help my cause can just post all of their weapons and soldiers here.

500 AK-47's
50 9MM handguns
500 soldiers total
2 naval ships
5 50 ca. sniper rifles
2 Mig 29's
1 Mirage M1
2 Cargo planes

The reason why I don't have very much is because our country has just formed and needs stronger nations to join my cause.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 15:55
How is that you've only been around for less then a day, and yet you have an incredibly vast army? You have to take time to train, think, plan. That, and no country that's less then a day old could possibly produce several million nuclear missles. You can't just pull weaponry out of thin air. Try rethinking your tactics.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:00
You can't have 100,000,000 AK-47s or 2 million soldiers. Maximum soldiers would be 250,000, I believe. You can't have nukes yet, you can't have 1,000 types of chem weapons, or bio weapons or 500 million guns at all. I feel like crushing you already.

As a personal rule of thumb for nukes, I say you have nukes when you hit 200 million people. And, increase in number as you grow.
Weccanfeld
24-08-2007, 16:02
As am I. Up for a coalition, VDB?
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:03
Okay, but if we tried to crush him, he would simply claim that he had an infinite number of weapons, and proceed to turn them on us. The Grand Rebels, I think you need to take a little time and learn about wars first. Try Automagfreeks Guide to war (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416823). If you have any other questions, go ahead and TM me.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:04
I really think the best idea here is not to try and crush some guy who doesn't quite get the game yet, but instead try and help a newbie become a better player. You all remember how you felt when you were new? That's pretty much him.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:04
Accepted. I'll get his land, you can have his people. Unless you want to split?

Practicing for when I'm approved to join EVIL. :D
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:06
You do realize that his war won't function quite like your idea of war, don't you?
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:07
But my point is, just ignore this post, and try and help him to be a better player.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:08
Um, yah. But we have to learn to be flexible.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:10
Um, yah. But we have to learn to be flexible.

Okay, but he won't be. He'll say "I drop fifty trillion nukes on your country, then send all my force to kill your people."
It will not end in any sort of change, except for someone getting blacklisted from interaction.
Weccanfeld
24-08-2007, 16:12
Meh, hopefully we'll scare him before he does anything. But if he doesn't, and tries to carpet nuke us, well, we can just call in IGNORE cannons. It's all OOC right now. If he reads the guide, and becomes enlightened and realises that he shouldn't really have those troops, I call off the attack. You've got to be cruel to be kind sometimes.
The Grand Rebels
24-08-2007, 16:13
Sorry for having so much I guess I got a little power mad but now I made it better
Razerstan
24-08-2007, 16:14
But he put so much time and effort into his delusion of grandeur.;):D
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:14
*sighs* yah. But we can let him have a little practice war where he doesn't lose anything, right? Like, just an introduction to the NS forums.

Sorry for having so much I guess I got a little power mad but now I made it better

Trust me, everyone does. Do you want to have a little practice war where you don't really lose anything? Just to get used to the forums? Pretty much everyone does it.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:14
Meh, hopefully we'll scare him before he does anything. But if he doesn't, and tries to carpet nuke us, well, we can just call in IGNORE cannons. It's all OOC right now. If he reads the guide, and becomes enlightened and realises that he shouldn't really have those troops, I call off the attack. You've got to be cruel to be kind sometimes.

Ah, but there's the problem. In your choice of action, you simply conquer him- there is no option for change. You simply wipe out a country less then a day old. I think it really makes much more sense to try and help him out then to wipe him off the map. I know I'm being overly beligerent, but I really feel that we could simply help instead of hurt.
OOOOC: But, if he remains insistent, consider faxanavia in on the war.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:16
I like VDB's Idea. I think a practice war is an excellent idea, if he agrees.
The Grand Rebels
24-08-2007, 16:20
sure a practice war would help but not now I have sumthin to do first
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:20
Still in Weccanfield?


sure a practice war would help but not now I have sumthin to do first

How long will that "thing" take?

Oh, I'll make a IC thread, this can be an OOC thread.
Weccanfeld
24-08-2007, 16:26
Still in Weccanfield?



How long will that "thing" take?

Oh, I'll make a IC thread, this can be an OOC thread.

Yeah. I get to commit war crimes without any reparations now! Woohoo!
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:27
Well, somebody's happy. :p
The Grand Rebels
24-08-2007, 16:31
if i could change the name of my thread i would but i cant so I'm sayin that my nation is no longer interested in war at this moment and would like to say that it needs allies rather than enemies. so anyone willing to join my cause which is different now from world domination. now my mission is to develope a new version of the UN and use diplomacy and war when needed. I will call it the AN which stands for Armed Nations. We have meetings about general things regarding threats to nations and other things like that.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:32
if i could change the name of my thread i would but i cant so I'm sayin that my nation is no longer interested in war at this moment and would like to say that it needs allies rather than enemies. so anyone willing to join my cause which is different now from world domination. now my mission is to develope a new version of the UN and use diplomacy and war when needed. I will call it the AN which stands for Armed Nations. We have meetings about general things regarding threats to nations and other things like that.

See what I was saying? instead of wiping a country out, help them! :)
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:34
Well, you might as well have a practice war-with NO WAR CRIMES, Weccanfield!
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:36
Right. Just because you're an evil dictator, doesn't mean that war crimes are a necesity :p!
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:37
So, how do we want to set up the war? I.E. who's on who's side?
South Aecon
24-08-2007, 16:39
Let's just eat him and be done with it.

I've been here a while but I don't post. :)

:sniper:
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:40
What, an all out force which would more then likely clear a million, against five hundred? Where's the fun in that?
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:41
:)Right. Just because you're an evil dictator, doesn't mean that war crimes are a necesity :p!

Hey, my dictatorship is in a good mood today.:D

Let's just eat him and be done with it.

I've been here a while but I don't post. :)

:sniper:

If you've been here for a while you know it's not smart to use the gun smilies.

So, how do we want to set up the war? I.E. who's on who's side?

Since it looks like South Aecon wants to make his debut,


South Aecon

vs.

The Grand Rebels
VDB

Wec, Fax, please post where you want to be, and maybe Razerstan wants to RP.
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 16:41
I think we should just wipe him off the map or let the UN deal with him
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:42
Byanmar, South Aecon, you're missing the idea. It's a practice war. For practice. We're trying to help him learn how to fight a war. Not completely destroy him.
Weccanfeld
24-08-2007, 16:42
Take all the fun out of war, why don't you?

What type of dictatorship are you? Your not a communist one are you? :eek:
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:44
Why do all these newbs have to come!

Take all the fun out of war, why don't you?

What type of dictatorship are you? Your not a communist one are you?

Nah, I'm more of a Benevolent Oligarchy. Oligarchy basically being more than one dictator.

Updating sides...

South Aecon
Byanmar
vs.

The Grand Rebels
VDB

Most likely.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:44
who, me? No, I;m just a democratic Socialist, no dictator. I'm the one helping here!
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:44
Wait for ME!!!! Seriously though I'm in. do you have a link for the IC post?
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:46
NO, which side do you want to be on? I'll do the IC thread, but we should get the sides ready first. Fax and Wec, what sides do you want to be on?
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:47
Frankly, I'd prefer to be fighting with the Grand Rebels, if that works.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:49
South Aecon
Byanmar
vs.

The Grand Rebels
VDB
Faxanavia.

Weccanfield? Where are U?
Weccanfeld
24-08-2007, 16:51
Actually, whatever side I join would most probably win, with all these nations that are still in the millions. Maybe I should take a less active role.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 16:52
Or an aid role, Wec.

Actually IDEA!!

How about-


VDB

vs.

Fax
South A
Byanmar
GR


440mil

vs.

255mil

That sounds fair to me.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:55
That's vaguely frightening...
I think it depend on how many troops people plan to send. I, personally, plan to deploy about 40,000 troops, but I think it really depends on how many troops VDB'll deploy. VDB?
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 16:57
sure thats fine with me even though we should take action against GR but whatever I'll fight along side GR.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 16:58
Well, it's really just a practice war, so...
How many troops will you send, Byanmar?
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 16:58
I'm a Communist and I use diplomacy first then war
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 17:00
That's vaguely frightening...
I think it depend on how many troops people plan to send. I, personally, plan to deploy about 40,000 troops, but I think it really depends on how many troops VDB'll deploy. VDB?

You guys can muster-max

Faxanavia-600,000
Bynamar-390,000
South Aecon-2,760,000
Grand Rebels-75,000

Total: 3,825,000

Something like that anyway. That's 1.5% of your guys' pops, which is a good number to use. Maximum is 5%, if you guys want to do that. Someone else is going to have to do the IC thread unless y'all want to do it tonight, technically I'm not supposed to be on the computer anymore. But tonight I will be.

I'll match that.
Imperial isa
24-08-2007, 17:00
i got 1 billion FN FAL with 30 round mags you can have as i now have my new Horus AR
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 17:00
okay... fair enough. I think we need to narrow down a reason why we're all attacking VDB. Um... Maybe he's been stealing our exports. Or he's threatening others without reason. Just throwing ideas out.
Also, word of advice. Generally, you don't have to title your posts.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 17:03
Personally, I like threatening more.

Isa, sorry, I think it may be too late to join, we kinda have this figured out.
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:04
I'll send 5,000 of my 15,000 troops to fight in the war
Imperial isa
24-08-2007, 17:04
Personally, I like threatening more.

Isa, sorry, I think it may be too late to join, we kinda have this figured out.

VDB thats a weapon, not troops that i was giving or joining sides
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:05
I think we should accuse him of genocide or enslavement of his people
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:06
well ill send about 100 planes and 50 tanks over
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 17:06
Um, OK then, updated #s:

Before
Faxanavia-600,000
Bynamar-390,000
South Aecon-2,760,000
Grand Rebels-75,000

Total: 3,825,000

After

Total: 3,440,000
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 17:07
I'm willing to deploy about 40,000 troops (I want to test out Faxanavia's new "Black Rooster" Ground Division. All will be armed. I'll also send maybe 200 air force for bombing, as well as mayb 150 tanks. Also, I can supply quite a bit of artillery, so I'll bring some of that too.
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 17:08
VDB thats a weapon, not troops that i was giving or joining sides

Ah. But they would have to go to both sides to even things out.

i got 1 billion FN FAL with 30 round mags you can have as i now have my new Horus AR

I don't think we'll need that many. Or extra weapons in general.

I'm willing to deploy about 40,000 troops (I want to test out Faxanavia's new "Black Rooster" Ground Division. All will be armed. I'll also send maybe 200 air force for bombing, as well as mayb 150 tanks. Also, I can supply quite a bit of artillery, so I'll bring some of that too.

I think the figures above are fine.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 17:08
I'll happilly deploy more, but I'd rather not if it's avoidable.
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:10
i actually will send over 1,000 tanks and 2,000 planes and 40,000 troops
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:12
I will send as many troops and airforce pilots as needed as long as the war dosent last for more than 1 year
Imperial isa
24-08-2007, 17:12
Ah. But they would have to go to both sides to even things out.



I don't think we'll need that many. Or extra weapons in general.

i don't care i just need them out give half to each side melt what ever left
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:13
this is a world war considering how many nations are in it
Vanek Drury Brieres
24-08-2007, 17:13
OK, I have to get off the computer, see you tonight. Feel free to start the IC thread, I will catch up when I can. Or just come on online tonight around 11 GMT. Bye. Feel free to debate as well.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 17:13
this is a world war considering how many nations are in it

Not really.
It's actually sort of a small one for NS standards.
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 17:14
I'll start the IC thread.
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:15
Bynamar does however have a terrorist problem in it. Recently there have been rebels who have been commiting acts of terrorism so i can't send all my troops to this war because I need to take kare of the terrorism in Bynamar
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:17
o ok lol but this is still my countries first war so its something big for me besides the civil war I have between the terrorists and my government
Faxanavia
24-08-2007, 17:19
Here's the IC post: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12994850#post12994850
Bynamar
24-08-2007, 17:32
The prime ministers name is Al-Qaesari he is a muslim man who was the 15th son of Sanbari, the famous man who struck oil in The Rogue Nation of Typro
Vanek Drury Brieres
25-08-2007, 00:30
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w300/williamsfilms/seal3-3.gif

Message from the President of Dweladelfia

The Republic of Dweladelfia warns any nation planning on attacking Vanek Drury Brieres will be delt with swiftly and harshly by the Republic. Any hostile actions against our friends in Vanek Drury Brieres will be viewed as an act of war against there friends in the Republic. 2 Carrier strike groups have been dispatched to the area of Vanek Drury Brieres. Please consider this before you attack this nation.

President Avondale

Thank you Dweladelfia, I can honestly say I'm happy about that. I'll TG you if I'm ever in another war.

Oh, and about my message to your ship, Fax, I expect you to not answer and to shoot down my C-130.
Imperial isa
25-08-2007, 16:10
VDB who looking after the refuges for this war
Vanek Drury Brieres
25-08-2007, 16:19
You could, but the war's pretty much over. I mean, Fax and By have surrendered, and nobody else's posted.
Imperial isa
25-08-2007, 16:31
You could, but the war's pretty much over. I mean, Fax and By have surrendered, and nobody else's posted.

could bo it as a side thread with a made up Imperial colony
Razerstan
25-08-2007, 16:36
(ooc:not much of an rp then.Sheesh..some of us don't live online)
Antigr
25-08-2007, 20:01
WTF? For a new nation, an 'Hi, I'm new' thread would suffice.
Imperial isa
25-08-2007, 20:12
WTF? For a new nation, an 'Hi, I'm new' thread would suffice.

don't you know it the new in thing with new nations to go to war straight away