NationStates Jolt Archive

Central thread repository, for convinience.

So, heres how this goes:
Post a list of your threads with the following format:
(thread description)
This makes things prettier and saves me a lot of work. Please make your description something like 'Japan Embassy thread' or something similar. This is for convinience sake, as I plan to give some organization to this whole thing.

New threads will be added on a case by case basis, PLEASE post them in the same format.

Administrative Threads:
Events (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536252)
Railroads and stuff (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12990888#post12990888)
Finance Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12993765#post12993765)

Factbooks:
Japanese Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535997)
Antigonals Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535993&highlight=Antigonal+1860+ONLY)
Portugese Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536072)
Carloginias Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536131)
Alversian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530840)
Bredford Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536338)
Ethiopian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536147)
CB Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536233)
Toopaxia Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13000035#post13000035)
Greek Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537090)
Mussleburgh Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536682)
German Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536165)

Diplomacy:
Japanese Embassy Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536331)
Continiental Alliance (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13003236#post13003236)
The China Confrence (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13022404)

Internal Affairs:
Japanese colonisation thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536251)
Japanese Internal Affairs (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12992917#post12992917)

Wars:
The Fate of India (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536417)
French Wars (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12991441#post12991441)
The War to Expel the Barbarians (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13005291)

Here's my factbook DGNT:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535993&highlight=Antigonal+1860+ONLY

Also, could you link my Railroad & Canals thread and the Events thread.

Events: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536252

Railroads & Canals: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12990888#post12990888

French Wars in Africa & India: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12991441#post12991441

[url=http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12991441#post12991441]French Wars in Africa & India[/ur/]

DGNT, here is my stuff.

Portugese Factbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536072

Forming the Alliance:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12987922#post12987922

Portugese News and Events

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12992030#post12992030

So, heres how this goes:
Post a list of your threads with the following format:
(thread description)
This makes things prettier and saves me a lot of work. Please make your description something like 'Japan Embassy thread' or something similar. This is for convinience sake, as I plan to give some organization to this whole thing.
.

I tried to do it your way but it kept messing up. Above, on the links I listed, I tried to make one and left it up. Can you see what I'm doing wrong?

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536131)

Alversian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530840)

The Fate of India (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536417)

Factbook- http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536338

I tried to do it your way but it kept messing up. Above, on the links I listed, I tried to make one and left it up. Can you see what I'm doing wrong?

French Wars in Africa & India

Alversian Conquest and events Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12992240&posted=1#post12992240)

Here's my stuff:
(Austrian Grand Monarchy Factbook) ( (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536233&highlight=croatia-bosnia))

That thread doesnt seem to exist, CB.

oif.....


my search bar isn't working...can someone plese post my factbook?

oif.....


my search bar isn't working...can someone plese post my factbook?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536233&highlight=Croatia-Bosnia+Factbook

Ethiopian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536147)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12993765#post12993765

This is a link to a Finances thread that will keep track of how we spend our money, how much IP we have freed up, how much is currently being used (it does come back after it's done being used), and other things.

Can I claim here I don't see any map. I find the 1860 stuff quite difficult to navigate around.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536378

Go to this thread, if you scroll down a bit you'll find a map. You can claim on that thread.

EDIT: I don't wanna be a bother but could you choose between taking Russia west of Urals or Sweden, Finland, the Kola Pen., the Baltic States, and some overseas colony.

Here's Candistan's factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536157&highlight=Caan

bump

DGNT, should we compile a list of technology that we have and don't have like we planned?

Yeah, I should have it done by Sunday, homework allowing and all that.

Yeah, I should have it done by Sunday, homework allowing and all that.

Okay, once your done I'll take a look at it because there are some things I wanna leave out that were actually invented or thought up by this time and a lot of things that weren't but I would like to include anyway.

DGNT, could you change the name of my thread from French Wars in India to just French Wars? Thanks.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13000035#post13000035

^^Factbook^^

It's got most of the important stuff in there, but I'm still on the way to including the Army and Navy, aswell as an economic overview.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13003236#post13003236

^ ^

Thread concerning diplomacy between Alversia, Honako, and myself. Just call it Continental Alliance.

My factbook(half finished). :)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13000252#post13000252

Can some one help me on my factbook?

Some details on your army would be nice. Perhaps a link to some historical firearm you issue as standard. Details on your navy and all that.
Frankly, most of a factbook is just fluff, population and military details are the only ESSENTIAL things to put in them, and maybe names of high government officials. Other than that youre free to add whatever comes to mind.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13005291

Im in mah Japans, killin' ur doods.

Also, please, from now on REMOVE the # and the bits after it from your posts if you would be so kind.

Also, please, from now on REMOVE the # and the bits after it from your posts if you would be so kind.

Whaaa?

Mussleburgh, try and get your factbook wrapped up by tomorrow so you can start playing. As it stands I'm still waiting for yours and Honako's but he claims his is finished.

Done a army bit what do you think?Working on Navy.

Can I Invade a bit of South Africa or do you need more info on me?

If I got a rail way built from Stockholm to Helsinki and St Petersburg what would my IC be in my whole country?

If I got a rail way built from Stockholm to Helsinki and St Petersburg what would my IC be in my whole country?

Read the railroad thread. I can give you a railroad from Stockholm to where Finland begins around that gulf there as your freebee railway, but your free railroad doesn't increase IP. You could make your own railroad from there to St. Petersburg, this would raise IP. I'd say Finland's IP would go up 7 points and whatever province St. Petersburg would go up about 3. So your total IP would go up 10 points, but this railroad wouldn't build instantly, it would take time and tie up some IP. Especially because Finland is harsh terrian for laying rail.

EDIT: Once you finish your factbook you can begin RP, then you can make invasions. After that you can attack some parts of South Africa, just know the natives there are VERY hostile, someone would need to RP the Zulus fighting you.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536165&highlight=Prussia+1860

Honako, I'm keeping your factbook on file up here, you NEED to finish a military NOW. I'm gonna have to kick you soon buddy, sorry.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536165 -> get rid of this part &highlight=Prussia+1860

Everything after the t=(thread number) is just fluff. It adds that ... in the middle of the link and makes it annoying to copy.

In the Indian Thread will I RP the defeat of Hyderbad or just the battle?

Why don't we do it statistically Alversia? Tell me how many troops you brought and we'll what's a fair number to die, then you can just have the area.

Right
I brought
4 x Irish Regiments (8,000 Men)
6 x Scottish Regiments (12,000 Men)
20 x English Regiments (40,000 Men)
30 x Indian Regiments (60,000 men)
30,000 Cavalry
40 x 24 Pounders
85 x 16 Pounders

TOTAL:
150,000 Troops
125 Artillery Pieces

Read the railroad thread. I can give you a railroad from Stockholm to where Finland begins around that gulf there as your freebee railway, but your free railroad doesn't increase IP. You could make your own railroad from there to St. Petersburg, this would raise IP. I'd say Finland's IP would go up 7 points and whatever province St. Petersburg would go up about 3. So your total IP would go up 10 points, but this railroad wouldn't build instantly, it would take time and tie up some IP. Especially because Finland is harsh terrian for laying rail.

EDIT: Once you finish your factbook you can begin RP, then you can make invasions. After that you can attack some parts of South Africa, just know the natives there are VERY hostile, someone would need to RP the Zulus fighting you.


Can I have my free rail between Helsinki and St Petersburg? And can I build one from Stockholm to Helsinki. How can I calculate my IP? I might not invade South Africa if not then I'll maybe attack Namibia.

Mussleburgh, its better to put railroads between places that DONT have water access. St. Petersburg and Moscow would be a good one, or between Moscow and the Black Sea.
In fact, I'd make it a priority to link the Black Sea and Baltic via railroad. You'd make a ton of money from the trade boost that would bring.

Right
I brought
4 x Irish Regiments (8,000 Men)
6 x Scottish Regiments (12,000 Men)
20 x English Regiments (40,000 Men)
30 x Indian Regiments (60,000 men)
30,000 Cavalry
40 x 24 Pounders
85 x 16 Pounders

TOTAL:
150,000 Troops
125 Artillery Pieces

How does losing a quarter of that sound? Fair? I would have taken a lot more guys in my suicidal cav. charge and in the last defense of the city.

How does losing a quarter of that sound? Fair? I would have taken a lot more guys in my suicidal cav. charge and in the last defense of the city.

Problem 1: I only commited about half of it to the battle on the hill and a third to the capture of the city
Problem 2: As explained, you're suicidial Cavalry charge would have inflicted far more losses on your troops than mine. My troops would barely have a scratch.
Problem 3: The Standard tactic of the time is to blow the living hell out of your walls until they collapse (and if they are traditional Indian Walls, that wouldn't be long) Followed by an elite charge through it and the gates once they had been battered down. Although losses in the Forlorn Hope would be heavy, a gap would have pierced that was big enough to overwhelm what was left

Just what I think, although you can ignore it if you want, but I think 25% casualties would be steep considering.

Problem 1: I only commited about half of it to the battle on the hill and a third to the capture of the city
Problem 2: As explained, you're suicidial Cavalry charge would have inflicted far more losses on your troops than mine. My troops would barely have a scratch.
Problem 3: The Standard tactic of the time is to blow the living hell out of your walls until they collapse (and if they are traditional Indian Walls, that wouldn't be long) Followed by an elite charge through it and the gates once they had been battered down. Although losses in the Forlorn Hope would be heavy, a gap would have pierced that was big enough to overwhelm what was left

Just what I think, although you can ignore it if you want, but I think 25% casualties would be steep considering.

I thought the same but I was hoping to get a lot of casualties from you because it was supposed to be a monumental battle and just turned out as an average one. How about 10%?

As Alversia notes, cavalry charges at this point in history from the front against prepared troops would be suicidal. Accurate rifles, fast reloading and bayonettes, plus grapeshot and shells from cannons would tear apart any charging cavalry forces faster than you could say 'light brigade', a horse is basically a big target at this point.
The best way of dealing with infantry ready to take a cavalry charge is cannons, explosive shells (which were commonplace by now) would devastate infantry in close formation.
Alversia's loses would be minimal, whereas the cavalry would suffer HEAVILY.

is there a world map I can see?

Wondering if I could still join as the Kingdom of Prussia at this point? I'm fairly well versed in tactics of the period.

Sorry if this is the wrong thread, which it certainly seems to be.

Hey guys, I linked the main thread below, you can find a map there. Prussia is taken. If you do join you MUST have a factbook within the next two to three days and you MUST be online AT LEAST once every other day. If you don't think you can do this, this isn't for you. I've had to kick four people already. On the map you'll see an orange country, that space is up for claims, the guy who used to be there hasn't been on in over a week. One of you needs to take their place so that transition will go well. Sorry to be so restrictive but you guys are joining very late. You must claim a homeland in Eurasia or Africa north of the equator. After that you can claim some overseas colonies, the rest of the world is still as it was in 1492. I will post the rules because they are very different than most other RPs. Also there is a list of inventions that are in and out somewhere on the thread I'm linking, look it over.

DGNT this isn't for posting in the hub, it's for the new players:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536378

EDIT: Prussia might become available sometime in the nearby future by the way, but don't count on it.

Ant can you add my Chinese and Bolivian claims and I will write more detailed posts for them later today?

Ant can you add my Chinese and Bolivian claims and I will write more detailed posts for them later today?

Where in China and how much of Bolivia, I gave you some on the last update, I could see giving a bit more, but you wouldn't have come close to conquering all of Bolivia in less than a year.

Between 1/4 to a 1/3rd of Bolivia and a medium sized enclave just west of your own landing zone.

...Prussia might become available sometime in the nearby future by the way, but don't count on it.

Just curious as to the reason why.

Just curious as to the reason why.

Because I hadn't finished my military, though now, in a brief way, I have,

Hurrah.

A shame, in a way, that you chose to play as the entire German Empire (Though formed eleven years early). There aren't any nations left on the map that I consider worth playing as :D

Hurrah.

A shame, in a way, that you chose to play as the entire German Empire (Though formed eleven years early). There aren't any nations left on the map that I consider worth playing as :D

The North of Italy maybe, or a Bulgarian Empire (take some of the Balklands)? Some players are considering assaulting there, but there should be little reason for you not taking it. You'd get some colonies, and the major cities of Milan, Venice and Rome, so you could become quite the power if the French don't hound you.

I'm getting a good vibe from Italy. The Balkans I just lump together as one big ball of suck, so I'd never be happy playing as them. I'll apply.

Toop check your Factbook man.

Is this thread ok? if not tell me so. ;)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13014822#post13014822

That would be ENOURMOSLY expensive, and I doubt your people would be happy with that. My own colonization of california on that massive scale was made possible by a) Taking over China, which despite being ass-backwards at this point was still INSANELY rich and b) The unique mindset of the Japanese, combined with the unique mindset of the Chinese.
Few Europeans, especially at this point, are going to just say, "Oh? We're being sent to some barren island in the middle of the Pacific with no particularly valuable resources (to us) and its a three month trip at sea and a lot of us are going to die in transit? Sign me up!"
5,000 ships is also excessive.
10,000 colonists at most, and that would be expensive, unless you use convicts and such, in which case your colony wouldnt be very productive and wouldnt grow due to a lack of women.

Kingdom of Greece Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537090)

Kingdom of Greece Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537090)

See what I wrote on your factbook.

That would be ENOURMOSLY expensive, and I doubt your people would be happy with that. My own colonization of california on that massive scale was made possible by a) Taking over China, which despite being ass-backwards at this point was still INSANELY rich and b) The unique mindset of the Japanese, combined with the unique mindset of the Chinese.
Few Europeans, especially at this point, are going to just say, "Oh? We're being sent to some barren island in the middle of the Pacific with no particularly valuable resources (to us) and its a three month trip at sea and a lot of us are going to die in transit? Sign me up!"
5,000 ships is also excessive.
10,000 colonists at most, and that would be expensive, unless you use convicts and such, in which case your colony wouldnt be very productive and wouldnt grow due to a lack of women.

Ok I'll make the area I'm colonizing smaller and have 10,000 colonists and 5,000 convicts and slaves. Plus 5,000 solders.Is that ok?Plus the area I am landing in is good for growing Mediterranean crops.

Anigol says I can't colonize it so ignore my last post. :(

Antigonal really really really sorry for the short notice but I have to go to New Zealand for work. I won't have much time for Internet as you can expect. Can you look after my nation? I want to conanise a small bit of land that would raze my IP and thats it really. I would be really grateful if you could do this for me.


Mussie

How long are you going to be in NZ?

I think 2 weeks at the most. I'm trying to get someone to invest in a scheme so until he invests or my company gives up.Lol.;)

Ok I'll make the area I'm colonizing smaller and have 10,000 colonists and 5,000 convicts and slaves. Plus 5,000 solders.Is that ok?Plus the area I am landing in is good for growing Mediterranean crops.

Alright, thats much more feasable. Note that there will most likely be some deaths amoung the transportees, especially the convicts and slaves.

Antigonal really really really sorry for the short notice but I have to go to New Zealand for work. I won't have much time for Internet as you can expect. Can you look after my nation? I want to conanise a small bit of land that would raze my IP and thats it really. I would be really grateful if you could do this for me.


Mussie

I'll look after Sweden. Don't worry, you have the Contiental Alliance at your back ;).

I'll look after Sweden. Don't worry, you have the Contiental Alliance at your back ;).

He does?

Cheers. Could you RP the results of the landing in Aussie. I'm going to be leaving in the next 2 days so things are going to be pretty frantic so cu. Lol!
:)

He does?

I was just kidding about the alliance part, but I am gonna protect him on a mod level, not IC though.

DGNT, could you put Greece & Musselburgh's factbooks up on the hub?

The plan for the future of my country.Pink is what I am going to take over. Numbers are the priority. Yellow is planed rail road. You may not be able to see but there is a small bit of unclaimed land down the border of Toop and Germany.I plan to take over that soon it is priority 2. Got to go am late.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1527/myplanfor1860pr4.jpg

It's a bit much but I'll see what I can do Mussleburgh, I am just letting you know though that I'm making an offensive into Maine, Vermont, and NH in a few game months.

Hey, i am not in he mood for colonies, apart from Kenya and Madagascar, but can I set up some trading posts around the world?

Hey, i am not in he mood for colonies, apart from Kenya and Madagascar, but can I set up some trading posts around the world?

Sure I suppose. Look at the trading post/rest stops Bredford and I have in South Africa.

DGNT, could you put Honako's factbook up as well? He isn't done with his navy but he should be done soon.

Gotta link?

Sure I suppose. Look at the trading post/rest stops Bredford and I have in South Africa.

How far away can I have them?

Gotta link?

Honako's factbook.

Germanic Empire (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536165)

Gotta link?

Opp, sorry. Mich posted it above.

How far away can I have them?

I'll be easy going since they're just trading posts, so you can have them pretty far off. If they were colonies you'd need proper supply lines to reach them. By the way, your French designed navy is done now. Check your factbook's second page for details. I suggest we call it "The Fleet of Goodwill" or something that promotes unity and peace between our two nations.

The plan for the future of my country.Pink is what I am going to take over. Numbers are the priority. Yellow is planed rail road. You may not be able to see but there is a small bit of unclaimed land down the border of Toop and Germany.I plan to take over that soon it is priority 2. Got to go am late.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1527/myplanfor1860pr4.jpg

I've been desiring Belarus for a while, so it may be a conflict between us as to who gets it.

I think that's Romania.

I think that's Romania.

I think it's part of Belarus and possible the Ukraine as well. Though I have my eye on Romania as well though, but that's more of a drawn out or bloody war due to it's size.

I think it's part of Belarus and possible the Ukraine as well. Though I have my eye on Romania as well though, but that's more of a drawn out or bloody war due to it's size.

Didn't I give Belarus to the Russians? And most of the Ukraine as well.

Alright, I'm letting one more person in and then we're officially closed. Does anyone have an unfinished factbook besides Honako whose still needs a bit of work?

I just need to do my political parties and navy, though it's so small that it probably won't be of any use during the entire rp.

Alversia, go ahead and take 10% off of the army you sent to Hyderbad and at the next map update I'll say you own that area.

Consider it done

It's a bit much but I'll see what I can do Mussleburgh, I am just letting you know though that I'm making an offensive into Maine, Vermont, and NH in a few game months.


God bless internet cafes! :) I meant that that was my plan for the next 3 years.

God bless internet cafes! :) I meant that that was my plan for the next 3 years.

Haha. Okay, I can probably give you Quebec in a little while. But you need a colony in between Morrocco and Australia as a supply line.

EDIT: And when you can, post about your conquest of Quebec, you need to RP it a bit. I'll go easy though since you're away.

Ant, would it be possible to colonise the Island of Hainan off the coast of China? If so, I'll RP a landing and effects later as well as news from the other parts of the Alversian Empire

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13022404#post13022404

The China Confrence, anybody with interest in East Asia should check it out, yo.

Ant, would it be possible to colonise the Island of Hainan off the coast of China? If so, I'll RP a landing and effects later as well as news from the other parts of the Alversian Empire

It's already taken, by Croatia-Bosnia... who I'm about to TG about his inactivity.

It's already taken, by Croatia-Bosnia... who I'm about to TG about his inactivity.

A little Naval expedition to 'persuade' him to leave might be in order :D
Or I could expand into Guizhou instead

A little Naval expedition to 'persuade' him to leave might be in order :D
Or I could expand into Guizhou instead

Is Guizhou the province with Hong Kong, Canton, and Macau in it? Because, as you will learn at our conference, I'm claiming the whole province in which those cities are built.

Is Guizhou the province with Hong Kong, Canton, and Macau in it? Because, as you will learn at our conference, I'm claiming the whole province in which those cities are built.

It's north of my currant colony

And what year is it now?

All I want out of this conference is the start of the beginning of my dream...German Indochina. Basically, Vietnam, Southern Thailand and Cambodia are targets and all I aim for in Asia. Anyway, I'll be expanding up to and into Bangkok soonish. It'll be a quite long conquest.

All I want out of this conference is the start of the beginning of my dream...German Indochina. Basically, Vietnam, Southern Thailand and Cambodia are targets and all I aim for in Asia. Anyway, I'll be expanding up to and into Bangkok soonish. It'll be a quite long conquest.

Vietnam is marked for Alversian expansion at some point so be warned!

I'll be easy going since they're just trading posts, so you can have them pretty far off. If they were colonies you'd need proper supply lines to reach them. By the way, your French designed navy is done now. Check your factbook's second page for details. I suggest we call it "The Fleet of Goodwill" or something that promotes unity and peace between our two nations.

OK, I want to put one in Cape of Good Hope, next to yours, I want to have some centres in Europe, also. And one port in china somewhere.

Vietnam is marked for Alversian expansion at some point so be warned!

Damn, you can't take everywhere ;). I'm sure the whole world is marked for Alversian expansion but it's not going to happen (:p). Sometimes you just have to give over to your allies, and I truly think this should be one of those times.

Damn, you can't take everywhere ;). I'm sure the whole world is marked for Alversian expansion but it's not going to happen (:p). Sometimes you just have to give over to your allies, and I truly think this should be one of those times.

PARTITION!!

It's late 1862 Alversia, by the way, I think Bredford had his heart set on Vietnam as well.

Partition!!

And that means I can launch the first Ironclad with turrets

Partition!!

And that means I can launch the first Ironclad with turrets

I think Anti wanted turretships to be an event-technology, FYI.

I think Anti wanted turretships to be an event-technology, FYI.

If that is so then historically the first should be launched from a British shipyard. And I'm not talking about Devastation style turrets, I'm talking more Captain style turrets

If that is so then historically the first should be launched from a British shipyard. And I'm not talking about Devastation style turrets, I'm talking more Captain style turrets

I'm not totally sure what the difference is, I'll have to research it a bit.

If that is so then historically the first should be launched from a British shipyard. And I'm not talking about Devastation style turrets, I'm talking more Captain style turrets

I think it'll be launched from a Swiss shipyard ;)

I think it'll be launched from a Swiss shipyard ;)

Ha Ha Ha :D

Okay, I've researched it a bit and turrets are off limits for now

I'd like to offer everyone interested in Vietnam the lovely Burma! Yay!

Either that, or Alversia, you can take the North if you want (I need the South for it to connect to Cambodia and Thailand) and I'll take the South, and then we can fight off Bedford if he decides Burma isn't nice enough...maybe it's time to use our alliance effectively.

I'll take northern Vietnam then.

Have updated my Aussie invasion thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13025481#post13025481

My Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13027049#post13027049

My Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=13027049#post13027049

Great, but what about your navy? Look at the rest of our factbooks for examples.

Here is my factbook. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537554

DGNT, could you take C-B's factbook down and put Scand's and Canadstein's factbooks up? Thanks.