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Events Thread (1860 World Only)

Antigonal
21-08-2007, 21:41
This is where events are going to be posted. Events can range from effecting the entire game to just one player. Events can trigger wars... perhaps even world wars, make new technologies available, and a multitude of other things. I will try to make an event a day (but this probably won't work out) so keep checking this thread. PLEASE check this thread regularly as the events may directly effect your nation and your nation alone.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 01:35
January, 1860

Today, in his factory in Geneva, Swiss gunmaker Jon Allwitz invented a new kind of pistol which is being called the "revolver." The pistol can fire six bullets at a time without reloading and gunmakers worldwide are heralding the weapon as revolutionary. Allwitz plans to sell his gun internationally and open factories worldwide. He says it will sell well as a side arm for soldiers and as a family protection weapon.

Effects: If any nation would like to make the revolver the standard side arm of their soldiers, post your IP and the number of soldiers you would like to arm below and I'll see if it's doable. The weapon will work well in combat for infantry and cavalry.
Dontgonearthere
22-08-2007, 01:39
A few Japanese officers might purchase pistols, but that would come from their own funds.

(OOC:
Wasnt the first 'real' revolver patented back in the 1830's? I know they were used in the Crimean War a little.
Also, as with my own army, a lot of soldiers would buy 'special' weapons for themselves, so even if a state DOESNT buy these, they may wind up in the army anyway, abliet on a limited scale.)
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 01:43
A few Japanese officers might purchase pistols, but that would come from their own funds.

(OOC:
Wasnt the first 'real' revolver patented back in the 1830's? I know they were used in the Crimean War a little.
Also, as with my own army, a lot of soldiers would buy 'special' weapons for themselves, so even if a state DOESNT buy these, they may wind up in the army anyway, abliet on a limited scale.)

Yeah I know but I thought it would make a neat RP.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 01:46
Antigonal would like to arm her cavalry corps (both active and reserve) with the new weapon. Additionally we are planning to arm 40,000 of our army's highest ranking infantry officers with the weapon.
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 01:51
IP: 205

The Ethiopian Empire would like to purchace 1.000 revolvers as a test for its cavalry and officers, also we are looking for nations to help upgrade our army and navy.
Croatia-Bosnia
22-08-2007, 02:03
The Austrian Monarchy wishes to buy some 5000 "revolvers" for testing in the Austrian Monarchial Lands.


Sincerly,

Francis Joseph

Emperor of Austria, 1848
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 02:33
The Austrian Monarchy wishes to buy some 5000 "revolvers" for testing in the Austrian Monarchial Lands.


Sincerly,

Francis Joseph

Emperor of Austria, 1848

Doable. Same with you NB.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 02:40
IP: 205

The Ethiopian Empire would like to purchace 1.000 revolvers as a test for its cavalry and officers, also we are looking for nations to help upgrade our army and navy.

I have a proposal to make. I will invest a good deal of my IP into advancing your navy up to current standards if you give me 15,000 of your Ethiopian people to make The First French Foriegn Cohort or the Ethiopian Cohort. We will train them in European fashion and station them in a remote part of your nation. Their purpose would be to protect French interests in East Africa.
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 02:47
The Ethiopian empire wishes to invite foreign executives to Assis Ababa for an industry meeting. There we will discuss foreign investiments, bringing heavy industry into Ethiopia and Somalia and light industry into Madagascar, Kenya, and the Seychelles.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 02:55
The Ethiopian empire wishes to invite foreign executives to Assis Ababa for an industry meeting. There we will discuss foreign investiments, bringing heavy industry into Ethiopia and Somalia and light industry into Madagascar, Kenya, and the Seychelles.

Hey NB, make a seperate thread for this. Also, you can't bring industry places, industry is based on your industrial potential, which is based on YOUR population, resources, and access to raw materials, slaves/the slave trade, access to coal, rivers, and regional railways/canals. The only way we could help is if we promised to bring people to your empire to increase your empire's population, or if we invested IP in building a railroad or canal for you. We could advance your military by training your troops (see offer above), but this wouldn't increase your IP.
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 02:58
I have a proposal to make. I will invest a good deal of my IP into advancing your navy up to current standards if you give me 15,000 of your Ethiopian people to make The First French Foriegn Cohort or the Ethiopian Cohort. We will train them in European fashion and station them in a remote part of your nation. Their purpose would be to protect French interests in East Africa.

Are you trying to enslave my people?
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 03:01
Hey NB, make a seperate thread for this. Also, you can't bring industry places, industry is based on your industrial potential, which is based on YOUR population, resources, and access to raw materials, slaves/the slave trade, access to coal, rivers, and regional railways/canals. The only way we could help is if we promised to bring people to your empire to increase your empire's population, or if we invested IP in building a railroad or canal for you. We could advance your military by training your troops (see offer above), but this wouldn't increase your IP.

OOC: How do I get factories in my nation and boost the economy, then?
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 03:03
Are you trying to enslave my people?

Of course not. We wish to have an Ethiopian legion to carry out French affairs in East Africa since we have no colonies there. Or, you could let us send 15,000 of our own troops to a reserved wasteland area. We would not bother your native people and in return you would be recieving the most advanced naval technology the world has to offer, we can also help with your land forces and maybe open a railway to increase your IP.
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 03:12
Of course not. We wish to have an Ethiopian legion to carry out French affairs in East Africa since we have no colonies there. Or, you could let us send 15,000 of our own troops to a reserved wasteland area. We would not bother your native people and in return you would be recieving the most advanced naval technology the world has to offer, we can also help with your land forces and maybe open a railway to increase your IP.

Thank you, we graciously accept 15,000 people will become members of the Ethiopian Cohort.

Also, the Ethiopian empire is opening the port of Berbera to all nations, it will be a duty free port for all buisness entering here. The Ethiopian government has never previously opened the port of Berberia before, and hopes that will encourage foreign investiment.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 03:20
Thank you, we graciously accept 15,000 people will become members of the Ethiopian Cohort.

Also, the Ethiopian empire is opening the port of Berbera to all nations, it will be a duty free port for all buisness entering here. The Ethiopian government has never previously opened the port of Berberia before, and hopes that will encourage foreign investiment.

Thank you, you have made a wise choice. We will dispatch ships to bring them to France where they will be trained and armed in French fashion. After a few months they will return to Ethiopia, no longer a gaggle of commoners, but a disciplined army of rifle-armed regulars, ready to serve and protect the empire. We will also begin to import our naval technology to your nation. We have plans to fund the opening of the first Madagascan Railway in your honor.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 03:42
OOC: Is anyone else unable to open the main thread?
Croatia-Bosnia
22-08-2007, 05:29
OOC: Yeah Anti. I can't get it to open either.
Ghassan
22-08-2007, 05:49
The Empire of Portugal invites all to view our open invitation:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12987922#post12987922
Candistan
22-08-2007, 05:51
Official Announcement

The Great Sultan Osman IV has declared a new age of expansion for the Caan Empire by spreading South into Lower Akkadia (Egypt) as well as other parts of Tripolia (Libya). The Empire has also hereby declared all zones within 200 nautical miles of the Empire under its sphere of influence and are not to be dealt with by anyone other than us. That is all.

-His Greatness, Sultan Osman IV
Alversia
22-08-2007, 14:01
IP: 410

The Alversian Army would like to purchase 10,000 revolvers for our officers in India and other colonies. We would also like to discuss matters of mutual interest with Antigonal.

OOC: How do I industrialise an area of my country to build more factories?
And can we start expanding our colonies yet?
Honako
22-08-2007, 16:04
The Kaiser is interested in purchasing the rights to product this for the Germanic Empire. How much IC would this cost?

If we decide not to follow through with that, we may in future purchase between 20,000 - 40,000 of this weapon.

- The Office of the Kaiser
Bredford
22-08-2007, 16:11
Antigonal, did you approved my claims at the end (Spain, coast of Brazil, Florida)? because you never answered me at the end. i really want to play, so please answer.

(the main thread is also broken, so i couldn't see if you answered later.)
Ghassan
22-08-2007, 16:52
The Portugese have decided to equip ten thousand of our most dutiful soldiers with this weapon.
Carloginias
22-08-2007, 17:29
Official Announcement

The Great Sultan Osman IV has declared a new age of expansion for the Caan Empire by spreading South into Lower Akkadia (Egypt) as well as other parts of Tripolia (Libya). The Empire has also hereby declared all zones within 200 nautical miles of the Empire under its sphere of influence and are not to be dealt with by anyone other than us. That is all.

-His Greatness, Sultan Osman IV


Official Announcement

The Shah of Persia unfortunetly does not see fit to recognize that claim for the smaller Kingdoms of the near East (Iraq, Armenia, Azerbajin). These states should not currently be touched as they are also in the Persian sphere of influence.
Carloginias
22-08-2007, 17:43
((OOC- The major cities already have railroads connecting, correct?))

Industrialization- India

In order to meet the demands of the military PNR (Persian National Railway) has ordered the expansion of the rail roads in order to increase the number of supplies and troops being able to be transfered to India incase of an attack upon Delhi. Extensive man power will be needed to complete this railway as it will begin in Kabul, go through Islamabad, and eventually end in Delhi.

In Delhi, there is an increased number of factories popping up all over the city. The governor of Persian India has recieved notice from the Shah to increase productivity in India both in the ways of recource production/distribution and of providing jobs for the people of Northern India.

In order to protect the workers that are constructing the line 5,000 regular soldiers have been distributed all along the current lines in order to help with the clearing as well as protect them from highway men and other raiders.

Other News

Persia is interested in aquiring 1,000 of these revolvers for the the officers of the elite in the Persian army and navy.
Alversia
22-08-2007, 19:00
Alversian Indian Army mobilises!

Following an unprovoked attack across the Alversia/Hyderbad border which left four Alversians dead, the Alversian Army has began to mobilise against the hostile Hyderbad.

Hyderbad and several others in the area have already proclaimed their hatred of the foreign Invader and several times have claimed they will rid India of this menace.

The Alversian Indian Army totals 200,000 upon partial mobilisation and will soon declare war in response to this attack.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 19:09
Antigonal, did you approved my claims at the end (Spain, coast of Brazil, Florida)? because you never answered me at the end. i really want to play, so please answer.

(the main thread is also broken, so i couldn't see if you answered later.)

Yes, and Sumatra, most of Morrocco, a town in South Africa, and part of Borneo. Yeah, I hope the main thread reopens soon. I don't wanna rush you but if you don't have your factbook up by tomorrow we're taking your territory. You, Kansiov, and the guy who has most of Scandinavia, are the only people without um, and none of you have been posting much.

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd207/Antigonal/?action=view&current=untitled-5.jpg
Bredford
22-08-2007, 19:13
ok..i will finish the most by today.. but it will be pretty hard to finish the military today. i will finish it tommrow. (the military.)

also, can i see a link to someone's factbook to see how you build the factbook, or i can use something like my netherlands factbook (with diffrent statistics ofcourse.)
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 19:14
((OOC- The major cities already have railroads connecting, correct?))

Industrialization- India

In order to meet the demands of the military PNR (Persian National Railway) has ordered the expansion of the rail roads in order to increase the number of supplies and troops being able to be transfered to India incase of an attack upon Delhi. Extensive man power will be needed to complete this railway as it will begin in Kabul, go through Islamabad, and eventually end in Delhi.

In Delhi, there is an increased number of factories popping up all over the city. The governor of Persian India has recieved notice from the Shah to increase productivity in India both in the ways of recource production/distribution and of providing jobs for the people of Northern India.

In order to protect the workers that are constructing the line 5,000 regular soldiers have been distributed all along the current lines in order to help with the clearing as well as protect them from highway men and other raiders.

Other News

Persia is interested in aquiring 1,000 of these revolvers for the the officers of the elite in the Persian army and navy.

Weapons order approved. No, cities do not have connecting railwroads. I know the main page is down, but could you please post all railroad and canal related news on the Railroads & Canals thread.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 19:16
Okay, all gun orders have been approved (please note that in your factbooks). No Honako, you cannot buy the rights to the gun, it was invented in neutral lands (and don't try to conquer Switzerland to get the rights, it wouldn't work ;))
Dontgonearthere
22-08-2007, 19:39
The Japanese Empire has completed the construction of the majority of the civil works in the Hinamizawa prefecture of Japanese California. With its population of some 120,000 it is the largest prefecture in Japanese America, and from present exploration, is thought to be rich in a number of resources, particularly gold. The majority of this appears to be concentrated some distance inland, in the region surrounding a now deserted city by the name of 'Sakaramento,' which has developed a modest Japanese and Chinese population.
Authorities are considering extending a railroad to the region, but logistical problems have thus far thwarted such plans until Japanese California can develope its own industry capable of building railroads itself.
The Daimyo of California has finished construction of the living portion of his castle, however, and is organizing the local samurai in case a defence of the land is required.

Telegraphs have connected Tokyo, Kyoto, Fukuoka and are driving northwards towards Hokkaido after much effort in driving the lines through the mountainous regions of Japan. For the first time in history news can travel from Kyushu to the northern tip of Hokkaido in a matter of minutes, where previously such a trip would take weeks. Similar lines are being established in Korea and China, linking the great cities of the Japanese Empire together.
Several complaints about 'great ugly telegraph wires' clogging the streets have surfaced, but these have generally been ignored.
Honako
22-08-2007, 19:42
Antigonal, I would use the OOC thread for this, but something strange seems to be happening to it...anyway, just generally asking if there will be an general IC thread in this, or if the IC is to be done all in seperate threads or in here relating to events?
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 19:58
Antigonal, I would use the OOC thread for this, but something strange seems to be happening to it...anyway, just generally asking if there will be an general IC thread in this, or if the IC is to be done all in seperate threads or in here relating to events?

Given the fact that our main thread is having problems, you can do what you want for now, we have nowhere else to post our comments. Has anyone ever seen a thread have a "Database Error" that never went away? This is certainly the longest one I've ever had, normally they're about 2 hours long.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:00
The Japanese Empire has completed the construction of the majority of the civil works in the Hinamizawa prefecture of Japanese California. With its population of some 120,000 it is the largest prefecture in Japanese America, and from present exploration, is thought to be rich in a number of resources, particularly gold. The majority of this appears to be concentrated some distance inland, in the region surrounding a now deserted city by the name of 'Sakaramento,' which has developed a modest Japanese and Chinese population.
Authorities are considering extending a railroad to the region, but logistical problems have thus far thwarted such plans until Japanese California can develope its own industry capable of building railroads itself.
The Daimyo of California has finished construction of the living portion of his castle, however, and is organizing the local samurai in case a defence of the land is required.

Telegraphs have connected Tokyo, Kyoto, Fukuoka and are driving northwards towards Hokkaido after much effort in driving the lines through the mountainous regions of Japan. For the first time in history news can travel from Kyushu to the northern tip of Hokkaido in a matter of minutes, where previously such a trip would take weeks. Similar lines are being established in Korea and China, linking the great cities of the Japanese Empire together.
Several complaints about 'great ugly telegraph wires' clogging the streets have surfaced, but these have generally been ignored.

OOC: I'm sorry Dontgonearthere, I'm planning to not do telegraphs just yet, there will be an event soon, trust me. As for railroads, please post about them in the railroad thread.
Alversia
22-08-2007, 20:02
Following several years of successful rule in Mozambique, the Alversian Government has decided that further expansion of this colony would be a wise decision. A band of Colonialists, escorted by the Alversian Army, moved over the frontier and headed westwards towards central africa. They settled in several locations and built up small fortress towns. Once the local tribes were confirmed to be no threat the building of more towns began. A minority of natives attempted to fight back but were swiftly crushed by the superior weapons of the Army. The population totals around 5,000 and has now added Zimbabwe to the Alversian Empire.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:09
Following several years of successful rule in Mozambique, the Alversian Government has decided that further expansion of this colony would be a wise decision. A band of Colonialists, escorted by the Alversian Army, moved over the frontier and headed westwards towards central africa. They settled in several locations and built up small fortress towns. Once the local tribes were confirmed to be no threat the building of more towns began. A minority of natives attempted to fight back but were swiftly crushed by the superior weapons of the Army. The population totals around 5,000 and has now added Zimbabwe to the Alversian Empire.

Sounds okay, add that to your factbook.

As for your invasion of Hyberdad, someone is going to need to RP the Indian princes defending their city-state since it's such a large place. I guess I'll do it. I would appreciate it if you didn't begin the attack until after the main page is back up so I could properly defend the city rather then keep posting in a bunch of scattered threads.
Alversia
22-08-2007, 20:13
Sounds okay, add that to your factbook.

As for your invasion of Hyberdad, someone is going to need to RP the Indian princes defending their city-state since it's such a large place. I guess I'll do it. I would appreciate it if you didn't begin the attack until after the main page is back up so I could properly defend the city rather then keep posting in a bunch of scattered threads.

Thanks, as for the RP, what do you know about the Hyberdad Army?
Dontgonearthere
22-08-2007, 20:16
OOC: I'm sorry Dontgonearthere, I'm planning to not do telegraphs just yet, there will be an event soon, trust me. As for railroads, please post about them in the railroad thread.

(OOC:
No offence, but why didnt you start this in the 1820's? Telegraphs were EVERYWHERE by the American Civil War, and connected a lot of places by the Crimean War.)
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:20
I know a good deal about Hyberdad in the 1860 era when it was a British colony, I don't know much about what Hyberdad would have been like in 1860 without British technology. I suppose it would be decent amount of old fashioned cannons, one-shot pistols, muskets, and rifles with a good deal of traditional weapons as well, sabres, swords, spears, ect. Their cavalry would be pretty strong I would think. Is that about right?
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:26
(OOC:
No offence, but why didnt you start this in the 1820's? Telegraphs were EVERYWHERE by the American Civil War, and connected a lot of places by the Crimean War.)

Okay, fair enough. Telegraphs are in.
Alversia
22-08-2007, 20:27
I know a good deal about Hyberdad in the 1860 era when it was a British colony, I don't know much about what Hyberdad would have been like in 1860 without British technology. I suppose it would be decent amount of old fashioned cannons, one-shot pistols, muskets, and rifles with a good deal of traditional weapons as well, sabres, swords, spears, ect. Their cavalry would be pretty strong I would think. Is that about right?

That is about right. The troops would have looked good but not stood the pounding that European armies would (A shared Indian Weakness) And their Cavalry would have been excellent although it would be mostly equipped with lances or ancient carbines.
Dontgonearthere
22-08-2007, 20:32
Okay, fair enough. Telegraphs are in.

(OOC:
We really should make a list of whats 'in' and 'out'. Things like dynamite, repeating rifles, effective breachloading cannons, all-metal ships, that kind of thing.)
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:39
(OOC:
We really should make a list of whats 'in' and 'out'. Things like dynamite, repeating rifles, effective breachloading cannons, all-metal ships, that kind of thing.)

OOC: The second the main thread reopens I'll get on that. That's a good idea, you'll have to help me compile that list. One question, is it normal for a thread to be down this long?
Dontgonearthere
22-08-2007, 20:44
(OOC:
I've never had this problem before. You'd have to ask the moderators or something.)
Bredford
22-08-2007, 20:46
OOC: i have finished the factbook expect from military. please tell me my IP
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:48
Since this thread is mostly OOC I'm gonna go ahead and cut the formalties.

Alversia and Honako, would you like the form an alliance? On Ghassan's thread on politics with Portugal I mentioned a Continental Alliance between our three nations.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:51
OOC: i have finished the factbook expect from military. please tell me my IP

Post your factbook here so I can put it on the main thread when it reopens. I need to know if slavery is legal in your empire before I can give you your IP. And don't forget to include a section on religions in your empire.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 20:53
Dontgonearthere, how do I contact a mod?
Carloginias
22-08-2007, 21:12
Ant, I am going to post something when Alv tries to start his conquest of India so don't post military movements yet.
Carloginias
22-08-2007, 21:12
Dontgonearthere, how do I contact a mod?

Go to 'Nation States' its the link bar at the top, scroll and you'll see a forum for moderation. Post there. You might want to provide a link to the OOC thread.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 21:14
Ant, I am going to post something when Alv tries to start his conquest of India so don't post military movements yet.

I shouldn't or Hyberdad shouldn't? I'm not trying to be annoying I'm actually sort of confused.
Carloginias
22-08-2007, 21:14
I shouldn't or Hyberdad shouldn't? I'm not trying to be annoying I'm actually sort of confused.


Hyperdad, thats it. Anyway, Hyperdad shoulden't. I am going to need you to RP the rest of the Indian princes as well.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 21:30
Hyperdad, thats it. Anyway, Hyperdad shoulden't. I am going to need you to RP the rest of the Indian princes as well.

I'll try, I may not be the best person for the job because if we're talking a major Indian conflict, I have colonies there of my own that I need to protect.
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 21:31
OOC: I was planning on building some plantations, oh what does the free port do to my IP?
Carloginias
22-08-2007, 21:35
I'll try, I may not be the best person for the job because if we're talking a major Indian conflict, I have colonies there of my own that I need to protect.

I just need to get them to agree to something, and then I can probably take care of the rest of the RPing.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 21:39
OOC: I was planning on building some plantations, oh what does the free port do to my IP?

What free port? Plantations will increase naturally as population increases along with other forms of industry.

EDIT: Oh right, the free port. I'm trying to think. There has to be some drawbacks, otherwise everyone would just make all their ports into free ports. So how about this. Your IP for Somalia will go up 11 points BUT you will no longer have full control of the port city since foriegn powers now have commerical interests there. But once outsiders are in, overtime, if you aren't careful, foriegn influence can spread to other parts of your country. Agreed?
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 21:43
What free port? Plantations will increase naturally as population increases along with other forms of industry.

OOC: I made Berbera a free port, to attract ship traffic there. I am trying to make my nation have a really good economy.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 21:52
Also, foriegn countries can use the port as a rest stop and can keep small fleets there (lets say no battleships, one or two frigates, no ironclads, and a handful of gunboats).
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 21:55
OOC: By the way all, I posted in the Moderation and Technical forum to see if anyone there knows how we can get our thread back up. If we can't I'll have to make a new thread (it's good timing though, RP just began, nothing too major just yet).
Alversia
22-08-2007, 22:01
Ant, I am going to post something when Alv tries to start his conquest of India so don't post military movements yet.

I'm not fighting India, just Hyderbad and it's not a conquest, it's a war

I just need to get them to agree to something, and then I can probably take care of the rest of the RPing.

United India and Persia vs. Alversia?
hmmmmmmmmm....
New Brittonia
22-08-2007, 22:10
Also, foriegn countries can use the port as a rest stop and can keep small fleets there (lets say no battleships, one or two frigates, no ironclads, and a handful of gunboats).

OOC:I hope that this helps our foreign standing, here is what i want to do.

In russia, peter the great faced the challenge of westernizing or modernizing, make his culture more western or make his technology more advanced.

He westernzed, as you can see with the Hermitage and the Russian Ballet, and the Trans Siberian Orchestra :D

I want to retain the African culture, but have modern technology, and invest in universaties to bring education to Africa.
Antigonal
22-08-2007, 22:30
OOC:I hope that this helps our foreign standing, here is what i want to do.

In russia, peter the great faced the challenge of westernizing or modernizing, make his culture more western or make his technology more advanced.

He westernzed, as you can see with the Hermitage and the Russian Ballet, and the Trans Siberian Orchestra :D

I want to retain the African culture, but have modern technology, and invest in universaties to bring education to Africa.

Well like I said, if you want to open your free port you have to be ready to lose partial control of the city, let foriegners use it as a rest stop, and let other navies keep a small number of warships there. You must also be wary if foriegn merchants try to expand their influence.
Lachenburg
22-08-2007, 23:11
OOC:

Lachenburgian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536358)

I'll leave this link up until the original OOC thread has been restored or recreated. As such, If I could get the IP numbers for my nation, that'd be great.
New Brittonia
23-08-2007, 00:30
Well like I said, if you want to open your free port you have to be ready to lose partial control of the city, let foriegners use it as a rest stop, and let other navies keep a small number of warships there. You must also be wary if foriegn merchants try to expand their influence.

OOC: Navies are not included. Military ships will be decided on a case per case basis. We will not give into bribery and lawlessness.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 00:53
OOC: Navies are not included. Military ships will be decided on a case per case basis. We will not give into bribery and lawlessness.

Okay, since you want to make your free port a little less free, move your IP up 9 points (instead of 11).
New Brittonia
23-08-2007, 01:17
Okay, since you want to make your free port a little less free, move your IP up 9 points (instead of 11).

OOC: yes, my factbook is on the down thread

:D
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 01:19
Okay, no one in the tech forum seems to care that we can't access the thread so I think we need to make a new page... which sucks because my only link to my factbook was on there so now I need to remake it. Is there anyone who can get into the thread? If so, please send me a link to my factbook, it's in the intro page. Does anyone know how to recover pages once they fall off the seven pages you can scroll through?

I'm going to ask that Dontgonearthere make the thread because I think the reason it failed has something to do with my lousy computer in someway because this problem is reccurring with me. Just make the thread and call it RELOCATED 1860 NS World RP (CLOSED). After that we can get started. I won't need to repost the rules because everyone should know them by now. If someone drops out I can invite some people I know to join and I'll explain the rules to them myself.

Unless someone has a better way of getting the tech people's attention, I'm sorry.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 01:25
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536338 This is Bredford's factbook (which I am currently considering incomplete), I'm keeping it on file here.
New Brittonia
23-08-2007, 01:34
OOC: my economic plan, to be completed in 10 game years,please review:
Establish central bank of Ethiopia
Gold Standard
Decrease dependence on sustenance farming
Spread telegraphs through continental Etheopia and Kenya
Build ports in the Seychelles and Madagascar (tax ports, combined with ones on Eritrea and Djibouti, Berbera can become fully tax-free)
Increase railroad links throughout Ethiopia and Madagascar
Consolidate ownings on Madagascar (read: claim at least 60% of madagascar)
build underground telegraph wires connecting Madagascar and the Seychelless

Encpurage foreign investiment

Construct industry in major cities.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 01:49
OOC: And now to use the Events Thread for what it was actually intended to do:

March 1860

It was a cold day. The man stood by a dark pillar not for from the platform, watching his icy breathe leave his throat and become white mist. He shivered a bit and held his rectagular parcel awkwardly. The loud roar of a train pulling up to the station had brought him back to reality moments earlier. Now he could see long, black serpernt like thing pulling it's way up to the station. Around him, people began to get up off the ground and head for the platform. A boy, roughly nine or so, stood up off the cold ground and stretched, then followed his mother to the platform. The train was getting closer. He could hear it getting louder and louder. Then the sound of breaks and it had stopped. The massive, roaring beast had come to a hault, steam blowing out of her into the cloudy sky. Zhan had never seen a train before. It was an impressive sight. But now was no time for gawking. He fumbled in his pocket and found a match. He began to walk towards the opening doors of the train. He waited, last in line, and finally stepped on the train, packed with people. A man wearing a black suit held his hand out, Zhan took out his ticket and placed in the man's hand. Maybe it was a dark blue suit thought Zhan, his vision had never been very good. The man ripped the ticket and handed it back to Zhan. He took it and began to head up towards the front boxcar. He and his package could hardly fit through the crowds of people. He had to push and was, in turn, pushed by other passengers trying to make room for themselves. Finally he reached the car he was looking for. Zhan paused, took a deep breath, and pulled the fuse out of the brown package, lit his match against it, and burst into the cabin. A startled group of Japanese passengers looked up at the man who had barged in so loudly. He held the match above his head and clutched the package to his stomach tightly, the wick was burning quickly. A moment passed where no one knew what to do. Then, one man shouted and another tried to make for the doors. Then, Zhan dropped his match to the floor, and tossed the parcel into the middle of the cabin. Seconds later a large explosion delayed the three o'clock to Tianan.

Bombs in Bejing!
Yesterday, at three o'clock in the afternoon, a suicide bomber boarded the Imperial Railway from a terminal in Bejing. He made his way to the executive cabin, filled mostly with Japanese passengers, and lit his deadly package. An explosion went off as the train pulled away from the station at around 3:07 PM. The bomb killed 26 passengers, the bomber included, and wounded two more, it also destroyed the boxcar and damaged the two adjacent cabins. Police have not identified the bomber yet but suspect he was operating for some sort of radical Chinese nationalist group. The police say...
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 01:52
OOC: my economic plan, to be completed in 10 game years,please review:
Establish central bank of Ethiopia
Gold Standard
Decrease dependence on sustenance farming
Spread telegraphs through continental Etheopia and Kenya
Build ports in the Seychelles and Madagascar (tax ports, combined with ones on Eritrea and Djibouti, Berbera can become fully tax-free)
Increase railroad links throughout Ethiopia and Madagascar
Consolidate ownings on Madagascar (read: claim at least 60% of madagascar)
build underground telegraph wires connecting Madagascar and the Seychelless

Encpurage foreign investiment

Construct industry in major cities.


Okay, the only thing is, we're just going to assume international telegraph lines exists because I don't think we need to get into that stuff as well.
New Brittonia
23-08-2007, 02:11
OOC: I want to start up with on of my targets finished

The Addis Ababa Gazette
Central Bank of Ethiopia Founded

The Ethiopian Birr has taken its final step in legitimancy with the founding of the Ethiopian Central Bank, as created by Imperial Order. The Bank will regulate the monetary policy of the Empire. The Bank has decided to clamp down on the barter system, plans to spread the use of money are being discussed, one aide said. Plans to change the traditional lifestyle of the African people were discussed by many, although they were dismissed. The Emperor has discussed many plans to improve the Ethiopian economy. He has said,
"The African culture will remain with these reforms. We can have the best of both worlds.
However, some dismiss that, saying that removing grazing and barter will eliminate what is "African" from Africa.
Croatia-Bosnia
23-08-2007, 02:16
OOC: Anti, if you click on the search bar at the top and just type in your factbook's name, you should be able to find it. That goes for everyone, as well as anything else you may need that has fallen off the main pages.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 02:47
OOC: Anti, if you click on the search bar at the top and just type in your factbook's name, you should be able to find it. That goes for everyone, as well as anything else you may need that has fallen off the main pages.

Call me a noob but I don't see it.
New Brittonia
23-08-2007, 02:59
Call me a noob but I don't see it.

OOC: What is your country?
Croatia-Bosnia
23-08-2007, 03:21
OOC:

there's a row of links....

User CP, FAQ, Members List, Calender, New Posts, Search, Quick Links, and Log Out....


Click on the one that says Search and you will get a little box....type in the name of the thread you want and it should list all related threads...


If you still don't see it, then I may have to call you a noob. =P
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 03:38
OOC:

there's a row of links....

User CP, FAQ, Members List, Calender, New Posts, Search, Quick Links, and Log Out....


Click on the one that says Search and you will get a little box....type in the name of the thread you want and it should list all related threads...


If you still don't see it, then I may have to call you a noob. =P

Thanks a lot, I can't even think of how much it would have sucked to have to rewrite all that junk.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 03:41
Dontgonearthere, when you get a chance could you please open that new thread.

ALL, I posted a new event on the last page.
Croatia-Bosnia
23-08-2007, 03:46
Thanks a lot, I can't even think of how much it would have sucked to have to rewrite all that junk.



OOC:

No Prob. Noob. =P (jk)
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2007, 03:49
(OOC: Suicide bombing isnt really in line with the Buddhist/Confucian ideal, but s'alright.)

Crackdown in North China!
After the recent attack in Beijing, strict measures have been implimented in China to control the already extremly limited flow of arms. As is traditional, only men of the Samurai class may bear arms within the Japanese Empire, although until now minor arms trade within China has been tolerated, specifically in the more rural areas and amoung certain religious institutes, the Imperial Government has cut off these routes now as well.
In addition to these measures, additional patrols have been ordered in the major Chinese cities, especially in the north.
Furthermore, 5,000 Samurai have been stationed around the Imperial Palace in Nanjing to deter any potential 'liberation' efforts on the part of some misguided Chinese group.
Meanwhile, Chinese media is being updated with an extensive campaign to assure the Chinese populace that these measures are for their security, stating that the attack on the train was obviously the work of terrorists who wish to destroy the prosperity achieved by the unification of Japan and China, citing the extensive industrial progress of China in the last few years when compared to the decades prior.
Inquiries are being made as to the identity of the bomber, and possible motives are being searched out. The Emperor assures his Chinese subjects that there is nothing to fear, and that any threats against them are threats against himself, and will be dealt with as such. The security and safety of his subjects is a matter of the utmost importance to the Emperor, as is the harmony of the East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere, our glorious union of nations, religions and ideals.

(OOC:
It should be noted that obtaining weapons would be quite difficult for any erstwhile rebellion, in Japanese society the ONLY people allowed to bear arms were the Samurai and some nobility. Up until the 1870's when the Samurai class was abolished of course.
So, any revolutionaries would be wielding pre-1840's muskets and farm impliments for the most part, IMO.

EDIT:
Also, what thread am I posting in? >_>)
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 03:55
OOC: Dontgonearthere, did you get my post about making a new thread?

EDIT: Go back a page or two, all the details are there. Sorry for not posting it twice but I'm sort of busy right now.
Ghassan
23-08-2007, 03:57
Official Communication, Portugese Imperial News

Dated January 28, 1860, Signed January 30, 1860.

King Felipe has decreed that this is a time of increased Portugese influence in our sphere of influence. Because of this, the Portugese Empire has decided to extend their boundaries in Portugese Africa and Portugese America.

Mobilizing the Portugese troops and the native soldiers stationed in both these areas, our gracious King has declared that native troops shall subdue through means the peoples of southern Venezuela, and set up a new perimeter that includes this.

In Portugese Africa, the King has decided that we should stabilize this region by building additional barricades, and recruiting various autonomous tribes to join our cause. We shall also push farther north, conquering the independent Western Sahara.

May the grace of God protect us.

Florencio Papilla
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

OOC: Is this okay Antigonal?

And, I would like to invite the rest of y'all to post in my alliance thread. If alliances are beginning to form, than I invite all to at least post in this area, so that we can get that decided.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 04:03
Official Communication, Portugese Imperial News

Dated January 28, 1860, Signed January 30, 1860.

King Felipe has decreed that this is a time of increased Portugese influence in our sphere of influence. Because of this, the Portugese Empire has decided to extend their boundaries in Portugese Africa and Portugese America.

Mobilizing the Portugese troops and the native soldiers stationed in both these areas, our gracious King has declared that native troops shall subdue through means the peoples of southern Venezuela, and set up a new perimeter that includes this.

In Portugese Africa, the King has decided that we should stabilize this region by building additional barricades, and recruiting various autonomous tribes to join our cause. We shall also push farther north, conquering the independent Western Sahara.

May the grace of God protect us.

Florencio Papilla
Secretary of Foreign Affairs

OOC: Is this okay Antigonal?

And, I would like to invite the rest of y'all to post in my alliance thread. If alliances are beginning to form, than I invite all to at least post in this area, so that we can get that decided.

It's fine, could you just hold it off until we get the new thread up?
Ghassan
23-08-2007, 04:22
OOC: Isn't the new thread OOC, and since this is a big event, wouldn't it make sense for it to be in the event thread?
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 04:25
OOC: Isn't the new thread OOC, and since this is a big event, wouldn't it make sense for it to be in the event thread?

The Events Thread is for RP and IC events, not game news.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2007, 04:36
(OOC:
I figured this would be a good idea:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536376

I'll ask everybody to hold off posting anything but thread links for now so I can organize things easier..)
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 04:40
(OOC:
I figured this would be a good idea:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536376

I'll ask everybody to hold off posting anything but thread links for now so I can organize things easier..)

Dont, could you please open a thread titled REOPENED 1860 NS World RP (Closed). You don't need to write anything, just make the thread and I'll take it from there. I've decided that, since it appears unlikely the old page will reopen, we should make a new thread. And I think you should make it because my threads have a dendency to do this "Database Error" thing while threads others make never seem to have this problem. I don't know why this happens to me, but it just does. Post the link here so we can get things rolling again as soon as possible. Thanks.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2007, 04:42
Already done
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 04:42
Thanks a lot Dont.

Everybody, here's a link to our new main page: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12990792&posted=1#post12990792

Sorry for the confusion.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2007, 04:47
I prefer DGNT. Its less confusing in terms of grammar and such.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 04:50
I prefer DGNT. Its less confusing in terms of grammar and such.

Haha, okay DGNT.
Alversia
23-08-2007, 12:01
Alversian colonialisation continues

Following the successful intergration of Zimbabwe into the Alversian Empire, it has been decided that Malawi and Tanzania provide threats to the recently established Alversian Order. Troops again with Colonialists have advanced and settled in small Malawi while southern Tanzania has been secured. The north provides difficultly as Tribesmen continue to war with a far more advanced nation.

Elsewhere, an expansion into Bolivia has been planned and Colonists have landed in the island of Haiti in the carribbean

OOC: If it's too much just say so, although by 1860 most of the world had already been conquered.
Antigonal
23-08-2007, 15:51
Alversian colonialisation continues

Following the successful intergration of Zimbabwe into the Alversian Empire, it has been decided that Malawi and Tanzania provide threats to the recently established Alversian Order. Troops again with Colonialists have advanced and settled in small Malawi while southern Tanzania has been secured. The north provides difficultly as Tribesmen continue to war with a far more advanced nation.

Elsewhere, an expansion into Bolivia has been planned and Colonists have landed in the island of Haiti in the carribbean

OOC: If it's too much just say so, although by 1860 most of the world had already been conquered.

It's fine, just make sure you're being fair when you RP native resistance.

Just to let everyone know, this thread is going back to being used for announcing events that I'll be making. If you purchased revolvers please note how many you bought on your factbook.

EDIT: Your invasions should take longer though Alversia, you can't really just subdue an entire native people (no matter how accepting of your rule they are) and region in a month.
Honako
23-08-2007, 16:55
Yeah, two posts for all that land is way too low in my opinion. I mean, look how much DGNT wrote to conquer California, and I don't think he's even finished that. If I'm honest, if we want some kind of quality in this earth, a couple of paragraphs for taking over a few countries is not going to get it.
Bredford
23-08-2007, 17:20
It's fine, just make sure you're being fair when you RP native resistance.

Just to let everyone know, this thread is going back to being used for announcing events that I'll be making. If you purchased revolvers please note how many you bought on your factbook.

EDIT: Your invasions should take longer though Alversia, you can't really just subdue an entire native people (no matter how accepting of your rule they are) and region in a month.

is my factbook OK now?

(expect from the navy, i am despertaly trying to find Spanish ships that time, but its seems they almost all disappeared in 1810-1800 and the reconstruction of the navy only began mainly in 1865-1890. from what i readed, the Spanish just didn't have enough motivation to rebuild the navy after their defeat to the Americans near Cuba.)
Alversia
23-08-2007, 18:22
Yeah, two posts for all that land is way too low in my opinion. I mean, look how much DGNT wrote to conquer California, and I don't think he's even finished that. If I'm honest, if we want some kind of quality in this earth, a couple of paragraphs for taking over a few countries is not going to get it.

OOC: I'll post more once a colony thread is established as this is an events thread only.
Dontgonearthere
23-08-2007, 19:52
(OOC:
Please take all further discussion to the new OOC thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536378)
This thread is for events and responses to them ONLY.
Please make a thread for your nations colonising and internal affairs, and post a link to it in the main hub thread, that should keep everything organized.)
Antigonal
24-08-2007, 00:35
July 1860

Today, a small, peaceful tribe from North Madagascar who had been subject to many raids at the hands of larger, more warlike villages, offered to hand their small bit of land in Northern Madagascar over to the Ethiopians in return for protection from other tribes and from European colonists.

Effects: New Brittonia, if you accept, you will be given a small bit of land in Northern Madagascar. But these gentle people will want your protection. Do you accept?
Bredford
24-08-2007, 07:55
i know its a bit too late now but..

the Kingdom of Spain shall buy 20,000 Revolvers, for the arming of the the entire Royal Spanish guard (5,000) and other 15,000 field officers.

(i believe that high-ranking officers can afford it to themselves.)

IP: 357
Honako
24-08-2007, 09:43
Oh yeah, and could I buy 20,000. I did hint I would buy that amount if I couldn't get the production rights, so I'm just saying that is what I defiantly want.
Antigonal
24-08-2007, 18:51
Yes to both, just note how many you bought somewhere in your factbook.

EDIT: Honako, please post your factbook on DGNT's link thread here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536378&page=3

If it's not finished by now, just estimate some population figures, and get your military up as well. We need it before tomorrow.
New Brittonia
25-08-2007, 03:31
July 1860

Today, a small, peaceful tribe from North Madagascar who had been subject to many raids at the hands of larger, more warlike villages, offered to hand their small bit of land in Northern Madagascar over to the Ethiopians in return for protection from other tribes and from European colonists.

Effects: New Brittonia, if you accept, you will be given a small bit of land in Northern Madagascar. But these gentle people will want your protection. Do you accept?

Yeah, there are troops already in Madagascar, they will be integrated with the rest of the Ethiopian Colonial Holdings. We will not forget our African bretheren.
Antigonal
25-08-2007, 04:13
September 1860

Today Genoese architect Matia Zuchilia completed a massive bridge over the Rubicon river. Millions said it would never been done but Zuchilia completed one of the longest bridges in the world. He is calling his style of bridge the suspension bridge. Surely this will change the world.


Effects: Railroads and canals can now overlap since bridges can be built so much higher that steamers can fit underneath them.
Antigonal
25-08-2007, 23:11
December 1860

More Bombings in China!

Yesterday, several more bombs were set off in Japanese China. The police believe them to be an extension of the spring Bejing bombings. A Japanese owned merchant cog from Shanghai was bombed while leaving harbor. The bomb was set off from inside the ship. No remains of the bomber were found and the few surviving crew members don't remember seeing anyone suspicious boarding the ship. The cog was severly damaged but did not sink. The number of dead are still unknown but police are estimating around fifty this time.

Later that day a second and third bomb were set off in Imperial Administrative Building in Jinan. The bomber came in through the building's front door, somehow slipped by security, and set off his bomb in the building's East Wing, where the daiymo's courters are located. Less than five minutes later, a second bomber charged into the building's lobby with the bomb's fuse already lit. The usually packed lobby was even more crowded with people trying to flee the building in the wake of the first bombing. An estimated seventy or eighty people were killed in the Jinan bombings. The police tried to arrest a Japanese man who worked as a secritary in the office who they suspected of letting the first bomber in. When he fled and turned up dead by his own hand the following day, these suspicions were confirmed. It was believed after the first bombing that these were a group of localized, fringe nationalists who operated as terrorists. Now it is believed to be a massive underground revolution spanning Japanese China. The activity of a Japanese subject in the last bombing also confirms that these groups have Japanese sympathizers. The idea that Japanese would cooperate with these terrorists was also considered unlikely after the first bombing. It now appears that these nationalists have friends in the Japanese community.

The police currently have no leads as of the Japanese secritary's suicide early this morning. The whole of China, and indeed the entire Japanese Empire, wait anxiously to see what the police will do now and what new measures they will take.
Dontgonearthere
26-08-2007, 08:02
The Imperial Japanese government is most distressed by these events, especially with the ability of these suicide bombers to sneak past the already heightened security around the cities.
The first action of the Japanese government was to issue a full press blackout on the entire issue, no Japanese government officials will comment on the events in question without authorization from the Emperor. Careful documentation of the rescue efforts, however, provided some suitably humanitarian pictures, including numerous photographs which were widely distrubuted, showing samurai and other rescuers pulling Chinese workers from the rubble, and numerous Chinese and Japanese working together in bucket brigades to put out the fires. Press releases from the Emperor and other government officials roundly condemed the attacks as, "The work of anarchist thugs, seeking to create chaos and disorder amoung the prospering nation of China, to disrupt the harmony which our peoples have achieved, and to slay all those who would dare to oppose their twisted view of the world. These men are no better than common bandits. The Emperor will not tolerate this, these attacks on his subjects, Chinese and Japanese alike, who toil to build a great future for all."
"These events are obviously the work of an external organization, attempting to weaken China and Japan, both of whom have so recently struggled out of the middle ages, to assure European dominance and break the will of our peoples."
"However, the Mandate of Heaven has been passed on, and the Emperor of Japan has no intention of allowing a Western Barbarian to rule over any land which he claims, neither in the East or the West, between Taiwan and Sakhalin, he will not allow whatever nation is behind these terrible acts to stand with their flag upon his soil."
"The Emperor encourages all of his subjects to report such criminals, and to assist the police in detaining them."
Following up with this, all of the Daimyo's have been put on full alert, and their forces placed on the highest state of readyness.
In addition, all personel entering or leaving any Japanese Imperial administrative buildings, importand residences and other buildings deemed essential to the continued function of the Japanese Empire are to be searched, and denied entry without proper identification.

Meanwhile, shortly after the second wave of bombings, a vast explosion in the Gardens of Perfect Brightness, in the Forbidden City of Beijing, destroyed a vast section of the former Imperial Palace of China, destroying numerous artifacts, killing a large number of Chinese and burning much of that section of the palace to the ground. The legend 'True Freedom is Obtained in the Blood of the People!' scrawled across the Heavenly Gates quickly confirming the initial story of the Japanese press release, solidifying, in the opinion of most of Beijing and North China, the true intent of the terrorists.
On a few occasions the propeganda campaign was perhaps TOO effective, with mobs taking to the streets in search of terrorists, and several lynchings in the streets of the larger cities had to be broken up by police forces.
However, the rage felt by much of the Chinese population over such an act as an attack on the Forbidden City, a place held sacred, which harked back to the days when China was the greatest nation in the world, before the Qing had fallen from grace and lost the Mandate of Heaven.
As Southern China had mostly remained untouched, its vastly differing culture, language and even religion acting as a 'buffer' and creating an environment not friendly to people who blew themselves up a lot.
Antigonal
28-08-2007, 03:36
April 1861,

Much like the revolutions of 1848 sometimes the world faced major, unsyncronized revolts that all occured in a short space of time and drew inspiration from one another. 1861 is no different. These revolutionaries demand an end to slavery, basic civil rights, a constitution, a parliament, the general demands of a revolution. Other nationalist factions demand freedom or an end to oppression for certain ethnic groups. Most of these mad riots have turned very ugly, destroying factories, shutting down railroads, and putting a brief halt on industry. All nations effected by these rebellions must lower the IP of each province with an effected city by two points (and then of course factor that into your total IP).

Revolts in Munich, Mainz, Brussels, Nantes, London, Southampton, Madrid, Murcia, Oporto, Oslo, Gdansk, Berger, and Bratislava.
Alversia
28-08-2007, 14:57
April 1861,

Much like the revolutions of 1848 sometimes the world faced major, unsyncronized revolts that all occured in a short space of time and drew inspiration from one another. 1861 is no different. These revolutionaries demand an end to slavery, basic civil rights, a constitution, a parliament, the general demands of a revolution. Other nationalist factions demand freedom or an end to oppression for certain ethnic groups. Most of these mad riots have turned very ugly, destroying factories, shutting down railroads, and putting a brief halt on industry. All nations effected by these rebellions must lower the IP of each province with an effected city by two points (and then of course factor that into your total IP).

Revolts in Munich, Mainz, Brussels, Nantes, London, Southampton, Madrid, Murcia, Oporto, Oslo, Gdansk, Berger, Vilnius, Bratislava, and Stockholm.

OOC: Historically, I already have banned Slavery, Introduced Civil rights and a constitution and have the second oldest Parliament in history
Antigonal
28-08-2007, 17:50
OOC: Historically, I already have banned Slavery, Introduced Civil rights and a constitution and have the second oldest Parliament in history

Yeah that's true, but you're not England, you're Alversia ;). Besides, there are other things they can revolt against, you're uprisings in Norway were for liberty from your empire.
Alversia
28-08-2007, 17:59
Yeah that's true, but you're not England, you're Alversia ;). Besides, there are other things they can revolt against, you're uprisings in Norway were for liberty from your empire.

OOC: True, but I'd like to simulate the history of the British EMpire as closely as possible ;)


--------------------

The riots in Oslo were brief but violent. Buildings were smashed and shops looted. Several civilians loyal to or employed by the Alversian government were killed. However, with 48 hours, Alversian Regiments loyal to the crown were stationed in Oslo in order to keep the peace. Several Rioters and Ringleaders were hanged from Oslo castle battlements as well as many people being fined for property damaged. By and large, however the Government did not overeact and there were few casualties.
Antigonal
28-08-2007, 22:18
OOC: Okay, to break that last event down a bit more, here is how it's gonna go.

Province of Norway loses 4 IP
Province of England loses 4 IP
OVERALL ALVERSIA: -8

Province France & Belgium loses 4 IP
OVERALL ANTIGONAL: -4

Province of Portugal loses 2 IP
OVERALL GHASSAN: -2

Province of Poland loses 2 IP
Province of Germany loses 4 IP
OVERALL HONAKO: -6

Province of Czechslovakia loses 2 IP
OVERALL CROATIA-BOSNIA: -2

Province of Spain loses 4 IP
OVERALL BREDFORD: -4

Make sure to move down the IP of the province or area where the revolt happened (example: if there was a revolt in Vienna, the province of Austria's IP would go down because Vienna is in Austria, then they would subtract that same amount from net/total IP, this isn't rocket science), not just you total/net IP.
New Brittonia
28-08-2007, 22:50
OOC: I really don't know what else to say, XD

United Coffee Formed


In order to unite Ethiopian coffee growers, four of the owners of the largest coffee plantations in Ethiopian Empire united to form the United Coffee of Ethiopia. Plans to expand coffee production in the Empire are in progress, with the Emperor's mandate to improve Ethiopia's economy.
Antigonal
29-08-2007, 03:36
OOC: I really don't know what else to say, XD

United Coffee Formed


In order to unite Ethiopian coffee growers, four of the owners of the largest coffee plantations in Ethiopian Empire united to form the United Coffee of Ethiopia. Plans to expand coffee production in the Empire are in progress, with the Emperor's mandate to improve Ethiopia's economy.

OOC: If you repost this on the main thread more people will probably see it. Also, look at what I wrote about this last week on your factbook.
Ghassan
29-08-2007, 04:38
Government Response

With the recent uprising in the Portugese city of Oporto, the government has decided that such problems within the home terrority should be dealt with swiftly.

In the heart of night, traitors are rounded up, including one of the main figureheads. While some others escape, those captured are showed how the others will be dealt with.

Hundreds are burned at the stake in the main center of the city, sparking some outrage, but mostly providing the government with a state of enough fear to discourage any further rebellions.
Antigonal
29-08-2007, 05:28
The Brussels' uprising were quashed immediatley since the emperor, the kaiser, and Emperor Alexander I of Alversia were in town. For their safety, the rioters were dealt with swiftly and cruelly, some even said sloppely. The rebels were trying to get freedom for Belgium from France. It is estimated that 72 people were killed during the fighting at the Brussels' riots, nearly two hundred others were arrested and await trial, many facing the death sentence. Many of the rebels also saw chargers for attempting to assasinate the emperor since he was in town at the time.

The Nantes rebellion was equally upsetting to the balance of the empire. Nantes is one of France's most important ports and brings in raw and luxary goods from across the empire. The rioters, demanding better conditions for sailors and those in the shipping industry, began looting this expensive items and refusing to let them leave the city, temporarily shutting down a good deal of French commerce. Sailors working the fleet stationed in Nantes came to the rescue by threatening to fire on the city unless the riots ended. The rebellion seemed to calm down after these threats. The sailors marched into the city and finished off any remaining resistance in the city square. There were 26 casuaulties over all and roughly eighty men and women currently await trial for the Nantes riots.
Antigonal
29-08-2007, 05:45
(the massive event I hinted at in the main thread has been postponed until after some more people add political breakdowns to there factbooks, for more details see the seventh page of the main page)

June, 1861

All week massive forrest fires have spread across Portugese Belize. They are suspected to have started after a slash-and-burn, an ancient practice of the natives, went wrong when high winds fanned the fires. The flames ran rampant in isolated jungle villages, the woods around these villages turned into a massive inferno, sometimes trapping and killing entire towns of natives. Yesterday the fires began to reach the large, Portugese, coastal cities. However, before any local industry could be harmed, Portugese officials organized bucket lines to help fight the fire. Currently the flames have been fought back inland and the high winds have died off. The fire is believed to the largest and deadliest of fires in recorded American history. The flames consumed nine hundred lives but the slash-and-burn was very effective. Nearly 2/3 of the country is now covered in some of the most fertile land in the world.

Effects: Ghassan, lower your population in Belize by 900 people, but raise your IP for Belize by 2 points.
Honako
29-08-2007, 08:48
The Chancellor for Police Affairs, Gerard Huber, ordered mass amounts of police to "cut the riots off at their roots", effectively targeting the leaders. It was believed to be a few revolutionaries trying to disrupt two of the most industrialized cities in Europe, probably for the freedom of East Prussia, a subject that has garnered many protests over the years. In the morning after the brief but explosive riots he said that "many factories have suffered small amounts of damage, and a few with more total destruction. It seems as if they had targets, as the destruction is not random and widespread, but quite confined and calculated. We therefore suspect Prussian Protesters as the starters of these riots as no Prussian owned businesses were attacked, who were playing on the recent discontent of the working class population in these areas."

The general consensus beforehand was that it was freedom fighters and pro-civil rights leaders, but the governments propaganda campaign has changed that view and now German citizens have become even more patriotic, and have been told by the government to report anyone who you suspect is a member of one of the Prussian national fronts, which hope to liberate all of Prussia in the end. It was announced yesterday that forty-eight died in the riots, and nearly seven hundred were arrested. Of the arrested were eight of the ten leaders, one more which was killed by Police, and one more who escaped.

The Chancellor also condemned the barbaric killings in Portugal saying “how can a so called civilised country burn a living human at the stake. Do they think they are in the middle ages? No wonder their populus protest human rights when they use this form of public executation. Thank god we did not accept an alliance with them, or we would have to join them as they rode around like hordes, cutting off parts of people like the Mongols.” Human rights aren’t a big craze in Germany, with many still enslaved, though we know when something has gone too far.

(OOC: Basically it was freedom fighters, but my government just blames everything on the Prussians national fronts, who are effectively tiny and not influenctial enough to start this. Why does Poland lose 2 IC when it wasn’t even targeted? Germany losing 4 IP makes sense, as just like with you (Ant) two industrial cities were hit, but why should Poland lose out when only two of my German cities were in riots?)
Antigonal
29-08-2007, 15:17
(OOC: Basically it was freedom fighters, but my government just blames everything on the Prussians national fronts, who are effectively tiny and not influenctial enough to start this. Why does Poland lose 2 IC when it wasn’t even targeted? Germany losing 4 IP makes sense, as just like with you (Ant) two industrial cities were hit, but why should Poland lose out when only two of my German cities were in riots?)

You might wanna reread the event, there were uprisings in Gdansk as well, mostly Polish freedom fighters and nationalists.

EDIT: By the way, if you don't finish your factbook very soon I gotta kick you. And all, the big event I mentioned the other day in the main thread will be coming later today.
Antigonal
31-08-2007, 03:30
And here's the event that was foretold days ago in the thread of main:

October, 1861

Today Spanish politcal philosopher, Carlos Marriano and Ferdinand Engeles published their much awaited book, The Socialist Declaration. The book brings up radical ideas about society and suggest capitalism should be done away with. In place of capitalism, it suggests that people should work together and live equally, exchanging goods for services instead of money. In this socialist (or communist) society, money, wealth, and excess would be done away with. All people would be made equal in both status and wealth. No more nobles, kings, or hierarchies. Communism is also considered to be anti-religion. These radical leftist ideas have caught on in many countries and spread like wildfire amongst slaves, factory workers, radical idealists, and the finnacially downtrodden, this is most apparent in communism's home country, Spain.

Effects: Communism has spread very quickly. It has reached France, Germany, England, Austria-Hungary (Croatia-Bosnia), Portugal, and Russia. Each of these nations must add a communist party to their factbook. With the exception of Russia and England, each of these nations must note that 6% of their population has become communist. If you're nation allows slavery anywhere in your empire (even if it isn't technically slavery) add 3% to that 6%. In the cases of Russia and England, who have outstanding civil rights and political freedoms, you guys can make communism 4% higher and add 8% to your most liberal (non-communist) party. In the case of Spain (Bredford), you must the communist party account for 7%, and like the rest, if you allow slavery anywhere in your empire (and I'm almost positive you do if memory serves me right) add 3% to that 7%. If you are a nation with a constitution, parliament, or are a republic (basically if you already have other politcal parties already), you must deduct this 6 - 9% from you're conservative party.

Even if you aren't a nation with a constitution, parliament/senate, or a republic, you still must take this into effect. If your nation wasn't mentioned above, you're safe for now.
Alversia
31-08-2007, 13:36
Alversa announces Ironclad Programme!

Following the 1861 Spithead review, the King has decided that more of these modern Ironclads are needed to keep the Royal Navy at the foremost of Naval superiority. To that end, seven have already been commisioned although they are not expected to be launched until at least next year.

This ship-building programme is the result of a threat from the French Navy, which already possesses far more Ironclads than our own navy. This new programme is expected to push us to the peak of Naval dominance in the Atlantic and over the french
Antigonal
01-09-2007, 01:08
Alversa announces Ironclad Programme!

Following the 1861 Spithead review, the King has decided that more of these modern Ironclads are needed to keep the Royal Navy at the foremost of Naval superiority. To that end, seven have already been commisioned although they are not expected to be launched until at least next year.

This ship-building programme is the result of a threat from the French Navy, which already possesses far more Ironclads than our own navy. This new programme is expected to push us to the peak of Naval dominance in the Atlantic and over the french

OOC: Aren't we allies? And for the last time (and this isn't directed at you Alversia), the event thread is for events I create, and for player's reactions to them. Not for monumental things going on in your countries. None of this is aimed at you Al, I'm just gettin' sick of saying it.
New Brittonia
01-09-2007, 02:24
Ethiopan Clove Corporation Formed

Two of Madagascar's largest clove plantations merged yesterday in a deal which made officialy one company control almost 70% of the clove prduction in Ethiopian Madagascar. Rumours that United Coffee and Ethiopian Clove will merge are being discussed, but are being idismissed by representatives of both companies. Smaller clove farmers are disturbed by this merger, feeling that this will threaten their profits.
Antigonal
01-09-2007, 02:36
Ethiopan Clove Corporation Formed

Two of Madagascar's largest clove plantations merged yesterday in a deal which made officialy one company control almost 70% of the clove prduction in Ethiopian Madagascar. Rumours that United Coffee and Ethiopian Clove will merge are being discussed, but are being idismissed by representatives of both companies. Smaller clove farmers are disturbed by this merger, feeling that this will threaten their profits.

I don't think this will raise your IP, just letting you know.
New Brittonia
01-09-2007, 03:01
I don't think this will raise your IP, just letting you know.

OOC: @Antigonal: I know, this is just me showing the inner workings of the Ethiopian economy.
Antigonal
01-09-2007, 04:09
OOC: @Antigonal: I know, this is just me showing the inner workings of the Ethiopian economy.

Sorry, I had a feeling you'd think I was trying to be aggressive but I just wanted to let to know. Most of these things you've done so far have been attempts at raising IP. Didn't mean to be a jerk.
Antigonal
01-09-2007, 05:45
January 1862,

A recent survey showed that nearly 10% of all Chinese citizens living in the Japanese Empire identify with the new European idea known as communism. The movement has also taken root, albiet to a lesser extent, in Korea and Japan. It is currently estimated about 6% of Koreans consider themselves communists and 5% of Japanese citizens living in their own four islands feel the same. Across the empire, it is estimated that over 13% of people living within the massive borders of the Japanese Empire identify with the rapidly growing international movement.

Effects: DGNT, note in your factbook that 13% of your people belong to the Communist Party.
Dontgonearthere
01-09-2007, 06:11
(OOC:
Uh...how would %10 of Chinese HEAR about communism? Most of them are illiterate.
And, it should be pointed out, in modern China 'only' 70,000,000 people are Communists, thats %5 of the population. And the Chinese Communist Party didnt even form until 1921.
Almost all of the population is generaly apathetic unless things get REALLY bad.
As for Japan...most of the Japanese are very much opposed to Communism. The JCP only has 400,000 members today, less than %.5 of the population.
Korea's kinda hard to judge, I'm sure your average North Korean would declare their undying support of Communism, while South Korea doesnt even HAVE a communist party.
And 'rapidly growing international movement'? Japan AND China were both very xenophobic...

I dont object to internal trouble, but please, can we talk about it first in order to get a somewhat sensible set of events set up.

Check your TG's)
Alversia
01-09-2007, 17:59
OOC: Aren't we allies? And for the last time (and this isn't directed at you Alversia), the event thread is for events I create, and for player's reactions to them. Not for monumental things going on in your countries. None of this is aimed at you Al, I'm just gettin' sick of saying it.

OOC: Of course we are Allies. Doesn't mean a little friendly competition can't be initiated. Britannia rules the waves and all that :D
And this is the last event I'll post in your thread. Thought this would be the easiest place to get your attention on the subject.
Antigonal
01-09-2007, 18:19
(OOC:
Uh...how would %10 of Chinese HEAR about communism? Most of them are illiterate.
And, it should be pointed out, in modern China 'only' 70,000,000 people are Communists, thats %5 of the population. And the Chinese Communist Party didnt even form until 1921.
Almost all of the population is generaly apathetic unless things get REALLY bad.
As for Japan...most of the Japanese are very much opposed to Communism. The JCP only has 400,000 members today, less than %.5 of the population.
Korea's kinda hard to judge, I'm sure your average North Korean would declare their undying support of Communism, while South Korea doesnt even HAVE a communist party.
And 'rapidly growing international movement'? Japan AND China were both very xenophobic...

I dont object to internal trouble, but please, can we talk about it first in order to get a somewhat sensible set of events set up.

Check your TG's)

Yeah, maybe 10% is a lot. What I was planning on suggesting was that the Germans were the ones who introduced communism in an attempt to raise unrest in China.
Dontgonearthere
01-09-2007, 18:44
Yeah, maybe 10% is a lot. What I was planning on suggesting was that the Germans were the ones who introduced communism in an attempt to raise unrest in China.

They'd have to teach the peasantry to read first. The ones that CAN read (which would either be the Japanese officials in the villages or the Chinese in the cities) are pretty much all anti-European to a greater or lesser degree, and Communism is a VERY European idea, most of the peasants would say something along the lines of,
"Wait a sec, you want to take MY farm and give it to everybody else? And I still have to work on it?"
The Chinese revolutionaries tended to be both anti-European AND anti-Japanese, but they would NOT cooperate with Europeans to oust the Japanese.
Ghassan
01-09-2007, 23:14
My factbook has been updated.
Honako
02-09-2007, 11:05
They'd have to teach the peasantry to read first. The ones that CAN read (which would either be the Japanese officials in the villages or the Chinese in the cities) are pretty much all anti-European to a greater or lesser degree, and Communism is a VERY European idea, most of the peasants would say something along the lines of,
"Wait a sec, you want to take MY farm and give it to everybody else? And I still have to work on it?"
The Chinese revolutionaries tended to be both anti-European AND anti-Japanese, but they would NOT cooperate with Europeans to oust the Japanese.

OOC: There must be some people who would side with the Europeans in order to overthrow the Chinese. Your population is massive, so I doubt you could say that everyone is anti-European, or at least would not join the Europeans to overthrow the Japanese. If you get the right kind of people, with power and influence, on the Communist side, a movement could begin. Ten percent may sound high, but all the other powers are in the same boat (France and Germany for example have 9% populations of Communists I think). I know the Japanese may be traditional anti-commie, but many countries have been, and they still have developed Communist populations in this RP, just as high as yours, and without the propaganda. Maybe if for all we lowered the Communist population by a few percent it would please everyone...anyway, I'll shut up now.
Honako
02-09-2007, 11:35
The German Kaiser, the infamous and ruthless Jonas Köhler, was unsure what to do with the Communists. He had always overcome problems like this, such as when the Prussian Liberation Movement was in it's peak in the early 1850's and they were trying to bring the slaves into there revolution, he abolished slavery in the Empire calming the slaves and arrested much of the Prussians leaders, and the rest fled to Russia and Eastern Poland, now in their smallest numbers according to the many informants he had inside. Then there were the Japanese drug suppliers, who he was dealing with now, sending them home on ships that half would die on, and the rest would turn ill. If he found an enemy, he stamped it out.

The Communists had most of their power in the working classes and the remaining freed and working slaves, with rumors spreading that some of the richer classes were advocates of the movement, which was not a good thing. These where often the starters of revolutions, and he was cautious around them. He hoped by appeasement the Communist population and "civilized Germany" as he called it could live in peace. However, whilst for now he did not want this "Communist Disease" to be killed out, he did not want it to spread.

In Germany, the thing was that many had heard about Communism, but little had read about it. The book that introduced it all was quietly low profile, though it's ideals had spread through many, though most knew little concrete about what the ideals of the political movement where. So, Jonas created the Germanic Communist Forum, usually held in an important hall in each major city, where so called major or important Communists would come and meet, and talk about other Communists, the ideals and be given the newly edited Socialist Book by the Government. These Communists were given the edited pro-Kaiser and his policies book by the guards at the Forum, which basically took much of the core beliefs of Communism away. The important Communist figures then merely told others, and the new word of Germanic Communism spread, which was basically the same as the current policies the Kaiser operated, so many were disinterested.

This was all under the watchful eye of the Kaisers men. Whenever they heard someone talk about someone who was a left wing radical, or who didn’t believe the edited pro-Monarchy and pro-Germany Communism, they were sought after and usually arrested on some stupid charge, then rehabilitated, or, if refusing to co-operate, secretly sent to the Prisoners of War Prisons in Poland.

Anyone that sold the real book was bribed in order to end its distribution, or shut down if they refused not to. The borders were checked for people trying to bring it in to Germany, and anyone found that the original books secretly burned and was sent back.

By doing this, it would halt the spread of Communism, and any Communist ideals that did spread would be the newly called “Kaisers Communism”, this attempt at keeping the populous on his side by basically editing anything out of the ideal that was anti-monarchy or any of their money driven policies, and telling the population that disagreed with this that they had the real book and the stories they had been told where just bad traveled lies. Once again, the propaganda ministry had worked its magic. Some true Communists may still remain but the Kaiser always stamped out his enemies, and he had people listening at all Communist meetings, smelling out the die hard people of this new found political movement.

OOC: Tell me if this is not acceptable, as it is quite an elaborate way of lowering and brainwashing the Communist population. I would like the desired effect for this to be that the spread of proper and even Kaiser Communist slows down to a halt nearly in Germany, and that most of the population begin to believe that Communism is a belief very similar to the practices Germany do now, just with a tad more equality. Also, the Communist population will go down.
Dontgonearthere
02-09-2007, 16:49
OOC: There must be some people who would side with the Europeans in order to overthrow the Chinese. Your population is massive, so I doubt you could say that everyone is anti-European, or at least would not join the Europeans to overthrow the Japanese. If you get the right kind of people, with power and influence, on the Communist side, a movement could begin. Ten percent may sound high, but all the other powers are in the same boat (France and Germany for example have 9% populations of Communists I think). I know the Japanese may be traditional anti-commie, but many countries have been, and they still have developed Communist populations in this RP, just as high as yours, and without the propaganda. Maybe if for all we lowered the Communist population by a few percent it would please everyone...anyway, I'll shut up now.

(OOC:
The problem with the Chinese becoming Communist is, as I said, most of the ones that would WANT to be communist live in near total isolation, speak obscure dialects of Chinese, and are completly illiterate, and even if they COULD become Communists, theyre too sedentary to really start a revolt, after all, theyve been living in the same place for the past four thousand years. The ones in the cities are maybe more accepting of Europeans, but theyre pretty capitolistic, because they've been fleecing traders from all over the planet for the last four thousand years.
As to the Japanese...they just really DONT like Communism. The Communists have problems with other parties AND the Yakuza when theyre on campaign, and, since theyre opposed to the whole idea of an Imperial Family, few people are really keen on them anyway.
And yes, there might well be some anti-Japanese pro-Europeans in China, but I doubt there are a significant number of them, and I doubt they'd be willing to risk their lives on such a movement until it had proven its ability to actually do something. China has a VERY small pro-European population, especially in the mid-late 19th century, after the Opium Wars (1838-40 and 1856-60, I think.) Im keeping my history ROUGHLY parallel with reality, so that did happen at roughly the same time. The Japanese are just being good little Asians and pretending it didnt happen, but even if it DIDNT, the Chinese still have a big chip on the national shoulder regarding Europeans and having usurped them as the worlds greatest power. Some of that animosity is directed at the Japanese as well, but at least theyre ASIAN. After the First Sino-Japanese war, anti-WESTERN sentiment rose far faster than Anti-Japanese, possibly because the Japanese didnt claim much of China like the Europeans, but they still took one of China's favorite colonies AND a nice chunk of land from China itself.

Basically, like I said, any major rebellion would be both anti-Western AND anti-Japanese, and would have to originiate in the cities, because those farming communities are simply too few, far apart and unwilling to move to get a serious movement going. And any revolution in the city would be regional, as pretty much EVERY Chinese revolution up until WWII was. That means they would be fighting other regional rebels as much as the Western Barbarians and Japanese Devils.
Antigonal
02-09-2007, 17:08
The German Kaiser, the infamous and ruthless Jonas Köhler, was unsure what to do with the Communists. He had always overcome problems like this, such as when the Prussian Liberation Movement was in it's peak in the early 1850's and they were trying to bring the slaves into there revolution, he abolished slavery in the Empire calming the slaves and arrested much of the Prussians leaders, and the rest fled to Russia and Eastern Poland, now in their smallest numbers according to the many informants he had inside. Then there were the Japanese drug suppliers, who he was dealing with now, sending them home on ships that half would die on, and the rest would turn ill. If he found an enemy, he stamped it out.

The Communists had most of their power in the working classes and the remaining freed and working slaves, with rumors spreading that some of the richer classes were advocates of the movement, which was not a good thing. These where often the starters of revolutions, and he was cautious around them. He hoped by appeasement the Communist population and "civilized Germany" as he called it could live in peace. However, whilst for now he did not want this "Communist Disease" to be killed out, he did not want it to spread.

In Germany, the thing was that many had heard about Communism, but little had read about it. The book that introduced it all was quietly low profile, though it's ideals had spread through many, though most knew little concrete about what the ideals of the political movement where. So, Jonas created the Germanic Communist Forum, usually held in an important hall in each major city, where so called major or important Communists would come and meet, and talk about other Communists, the ideals and be given the newly edited Socialist Book by the Government. These Communists were given the edited pro-Kaiser and his policies book by the guards at the Forum, which basically took much of the core beliefs of Communism away. The important Communist figures then merely told others, and the new word of Germanic Communism spread, which was basically the same as the current policies the Kaiser operated, so many were disinterested.

This was all under the watchful eye of the Kaisers men. Whenever they heard someone talk about someone who was a left wing radical, or who didn’t believe the edited pro-Monarchy and pro-Germany Communism, they were sought after and usually arrested on some stupid charge, then rehabilitated, or, if refusing to co-operate, secretly sent to the Prisoners of War Prisons in Poland.

Anyone that sold the real book was bribed in order to end its distribution, or shut down if they refused not to. The borders were checked for people trying to bring it in to Germany, and anyone found that the original books secretly burned and was sent back.

By doing this, it would halt the spread of Communism, and any Communist ideals that did spread would be the newly called “Kaisers Communism”, this attempt at keeping the populous on his side by basically editing anything out of the ideal that was anti-monarchy or any of their money driven policies, and telling the population that disagreed with this that they had the real book and the stories they had been told where just bad traveled lies. Once again, the propaganda ministry had worked its magic. Some true Communists may still remain but the Kaiser always stamped out his enemies, and he had people listening at all Communist meetings, smelling out the die hard people of this new found political movement.

OOC: Tell me if this is not acceptable, as it is quite an elaborate way of lowering and brainwashing the Communist population. I would like the desired effect for this to be that the spread of proper and even Kaiser Communist slows down to a halt nearly in Germany, and that most of the population begin to believe that Communism is a belief very similar to the practices Germany do now, just with a tad more equality. Also, the Communist population will go down.

I'd say you could maybe divide your communist population between Germanic (or Kaiser's) communists and actual communists. That might make for an interesting RP.
Toopoxia
03-09-2007, 03:46
(OOC: Toopoxia is by no measure that liberal, it's actually quite Dogmatic in some aspects and Capitolistic in others, but I get it in any case.)

"Sire." Vallius bowed low to the Chancellor, "Forgive my rudeness, but I was due to meet with foriegn dignitaries tonight." The advisor walked into the room, "I had to leave them a note." He lamented, The Duke sat, heavily engrossed in a thick paperback book, he lowered it to his desk and pulled off his reading glasses.
Indent"This is utter drivel, the Poorpers cannot lead themselves through a blizzard." He grumbled, "And to have audacity to suggest that they should rise up against us, the ruling caste." He tossed the book aside, almost angrilly, "Advise me Vallius, this book, it could potentially destroy our nation." Vallius looked at the copy of the Socialist manifesto, he winced.
Indent"Sire, I'm not an expert on the Socialist psyche, but if current trends are anything to go by... Politics have become the new religion, and we can expect that these Socialists will be as dogmatic and fanatical as the old Catholic nations." Vallius picked up the book and inspected its cover, "I would advise we let the Proles think they have won, let them have their... Communist Party." He flicked through the book to find the right term, "But at every length we must shame their honour, we shall find victory in denying the war." Vallius handed the booklet back to the Chancellor.
Antigonal
03-09-2007, 23:18
October, 1862

Today riots broke out in North-Western Germany over a dispute based around how a communist state should function. The Germanic Communists, a group who follow a pro-German view of the ideal and account for roughly 3% of the country's total population, clashed with true communists in the streets of Dresden.

Despite having been originally stamped out by a clever ploy by the kaiser to trick his communist citizens into believing communism was another word for nationalism, communism has bounced back in Germany. Schools teaching communist thought were opened directly across the German border in the Alps, the Austrian Empire, and southern Sweden after The Socialist Declaration was banned in Germany. Thus being the case, regions just over the Germany border such as Bavaria, the Danish Isles, and the northern tip of Denmark, have all become regions devouted to true communist principles. Meanwhile, in the Netherlands, true communism has also taken off. When the kaiser had a German friendly version of the The Socialist Declaration published, he had it made in German first, then Polish, followed by Danish, and finally in Dutch, the four major languages of continietal Germany. However, by the time it was published in Dutch, the real The Socialist Declaration had been passed around Holland for months. When the kaiser's manifesto hit bookshops in Amsterdam it was met with laughter.

But the book was not without impact, Germanic Communism (sometimes jokingly refered to as Kaiser's Communism) dug in deep in the city of Dresden, leading some to believe it even originated there.

With the success of these communist schools, which ironically have been very profitable, the true communists have been able to spread their ideals across the country. After the majority of people realized Germanic Communism was a sham, the amount of true communists actually grew. New members joined because they felt they had been lied to by the goverment who they now saw as corrupt. The True Communist Party of Germany now makes up nearly 12% of the population, making Germany the home to the largest communist population in the world. The head of the TCPG has called Germanic Communism "a bunch of lies" and refered to it's members as "brainwashed communists turned nationalists with slight liberal leanings."

Last night the animosity between the two groups boiled over in Dresden where the two parties fought in the streets. It was reported that about 58 lives were lost, mostly from the TCGP. Some accounts even say they saw German police aiding the Germanic Communists. Several arrests have been made so far and the world awaits the kaiser's next decieptive move.
Honako
04-09-2007, 16:08
OOC: I though the Chinese had a 13% population of Communists...or has that been lowered? Damn, I don't want to have the largest Communist population! :p

Anyway, I have a couple of issues - firstly, as I said the government had informants, eyes , ears and everything in the Communist movements. They fished out radicals and arrested them. If there were schools, they would know about most of them, at least the ones with major influence. And then these schools would be shut down, perhaps making the people angry and possibly helping this riot but stopping the spread at least. So, consider I tried to make it so I had people knowing about the Communists so this wouldn't happen - I'll accept the rise of true Communism in Holland, but can you lower it's total in the general population to perhaps 3% Kaiser Communism and 6% True Communists as my Kaiser and the German Police would not be so foolish as to not notice the rise in Communists surely.
Antigonal
04-09-2007, 16:43
OOC: I though the Chinese had a 13% population of Communists...or has that been lowered? Damn, I don't want to have the largest Communist population! :p

Anyway, I have a couple of issues - firstly, as I said the government had informants, eyes , ears and everything in the Communist movements. They fished out radicals and arrested them. If there were schools, they would know about most of them, at least the ones with major influence. And then these schools would be shut down, perhaps making the people angry and possibly helping this riot but stopping the spread at least. So, consider I tried to make it so I had people knowing about the Communists so this wouldn't happen - I'll accept the rise of true Communism in Holland, but can you lower it's total in the general population to perhaps 3% Kaiser Communism and 6% True Communists as my Kaiser and the German Police would not be so foolish as to not notice the rise in Communists surely.

Yeah we decided to lower the amount of communists in China... for now.

First off, these schools I mentioned are across your borders, shutting them down would be very aggresive and probably upset your European community. Secondly, you can't expect to just brainwash your people so easily. Besides, lets say I'm a German liberal interested in communism, I go to the bookstore and get a copy of the Germanic Socialist whatever, I read it, and it has little to do with liberalism and much more to do with nationalism, I go home thinking "this is communism?", and I don't agree with it. Just because you wrote it doesn't mean everyone's gonna agree with it, leftists (who are the ones who would be interested in communism in the first place) wouldn't agree with a liberal leaning version of nationialism. They would go about their lives, remaining liberals, with no interest in Germanic Communism or true communism. And lastly, you can't keep an entire nation ignorant, people would find out somehow what communism truely is.
Antigonal
06-09-2007, 02:29
... so, Honako, gonna deal with this issue or not?
Antigonal
08-09-2007, 22:14
In the Holy Empire of North Africa today over 250 Berbers were lynched by European soldiers after the Berbers had refused to move their tribe deeper inland in order to make way for European colonists. The soldiers, have not been punished due to the law which grants Europeans the right to do what is needed and with the fact that Berbers are considered worthy of only being a third of European in terms of law the survivors cannot take action against the one hundred soldiers responsible for the crime.

Meanwhile, in the American colonies White colonists have murdered an entire clan of Indians that were moving with the Bision herds into northern Texas. Though their have been investigations into the murders no suspects have been found in relation due to local officers genrally not even caring about the murders.

OOC: Hey Scand, this thread is for events I create randomly to throw at players. If you have an event you can make your thread if it's a big one or just post it on the main page.
Antigonal
08-09-2007, 22:51
The night was cold, the man breathed deeply and looked up. He could see his icy breathe in the still night air. Around him, several of his companions were brandishing recently delivered European made revolvers. He shivered a bit, then drew his own revolver. The man to his left signaled to the rest.

He rose from his crouched position and climbed up the steep the gnoll. He could now see the lights of a tavern below them. The group inched foward slowly. No one spoke. The descended towards the building. Three men, rifles at their sides, stood outside the tavern. They were vigilant. The men crept up to the guards, then paused. One man in the group drew and knife and inched forward on his stomach. Then he leapt to his feet, the man with the dagger swung his weapon deep into the chest of the first guard. The two other guards jumped into action. The first raised his bayonet and lunged out the knifeman but missed. In lunging forward he left himself completely exposed. The deadly and well trained assaisin took advantage of this and dug his knife into the man's stomach. The third guard had raised his rifle and was pointing it straight at the killer. It was close range for using such a weapon but he had a good shot on the man. The two froze, starring at one another. Why didn't the guard call for help wondererd the knifeman? Then there was a bang from behing him. Nearly two dozen more Imperial troops were charging out from behind the tavern and the nearby brush. He had been set up. The first bullet wizzed over the knifeman's left shoulder, the second caught him in the back of the head.

His comrades were quick to avenge him. They sprung to their feet and charged the new troops. Some of these new members of the battle wielded revolvers, others, rifles. Nearly two dozen in all. But these men were no peasants, they all had used revolvers before and been in hard combat. They had also recieved many months of training. The fired their weapons and for nearly a quarter of an hour, the shootout raged. At the end of this time, no guards were left standing. The men burst into the tavern. A man wearing gold and red lay bound on the floor. A woman and a boy lay next to him in a similar situation. Several peasants, perhaps the owners of the tavern and it's patrons, were dead on the floor.

The group of men untied the three and helped them to their feet.

"My exhaulted Emperor, we must flee." Said Yuan. And they did. Yuan looked at one of the other men and said, "Our contact will be pleased. It is a fine day for China."

Emperor Freed!

Late last night Chinese revolutionaries, perhaps in conjunction with the same wicked men who commited the infamous China bombings and began the uprising in Nanjing, killed twenty-three Imperial Japanese Soldiers and freed Emperor Huang who had been kidnapped by the Japanese government for safekeeping during the revolts. The soldiers were attempting to move emperor and his family to Japan safely and quietly. The party stopped for the night at an inconspicious tavern in the countryside hoping no one would suspect the emperor to stay in such humble dwellings. Only twenty-five guards were sent to accompany the emperor as to not draw attention to the party. Out of these twenty-five men only two are alive to tell the tale. So far the two surviving guards have been shielded from the press by the Imperial Government, however, they have released this statement:

There must have been roughly seventy of them, sheer numbers overwhelmed us. We believe them to have been entirely comprised of Chinese peasants, somehow armed with European style revovlers. We would also like to stress that the emperor and his family were not taken from their palace forcefully and that these fanatics will be brought to justice.

A party of about twenty or so Chinese were seen early this morning on the road for Shanghai. They were reported to have been acting "suspicious." However, these numbers do not match with the numbers quoted by the surviving soldiers. This attack is a major embarrasement to the throne and police are searching the countryside with a frevor.
The Scandinvans
09-09-2007, 03:36
OOC: Hey Scand, this thread is for events I create randomly to throw at players. If you have an event you can make your thread if it's a big one or just post it on the main page.OOC: Intended, for post on my factbook, but had multiple windows open and what is done is done. So I will just delete it and then move to my factbook and offer my apology for not being attentive.
Antigonal
09-09-2007, 04:07
OOC: Intended, for post on my factbook, but had multiple windows open and what is done is done. So I will just delete it and then move to my factbook and offer my apology for not being attentive.

OOC: Haha, I've done that. No worries, I was just lettin' you know for future reference, people mistake the Events Thread's purpose a lot.
Dontgonearthere
09-09-2007, 05:52
((OOC:
The Emperor's already been freed, actually. I dont think I had the rebels do anything with him though. He wasnt in my custody though, since Nanjing is controlled by the Chinese rebels except for the castle.))
Antigonal
09-09-2007, 16:20
((OOC:
The Emperor's already been freed, actually. I dont think I had the rebels do anything with him though. He wasnt in my custody though, since Nanjing is controlled by the Chinese rebels except for the castle.))

I'll give you the choice. You ignore it and would be fine or you can go with it and there will be a very interesting RP coming. It's totally up to you.