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Hello everyone, thanks for coming. Some of you may know me, some of you may not. Either way, what is important now is that I am trying to get back into NS RP, specifically FT, and because I like to feel special, it requires a special(And I hope fun) RP to create the nation I wish for.

The idea for the "completed" Starenell is that it the five or so billion population it has right now, and will have when I RP as it, are just a fraction of a massive empire. Now, in order to narrow it back down to that five billion, I want to near completely destroy the Empire, which will be a very decadent FT Roman/Byzantine/British Empire type place. Not quite evil, but very corrupt, and arrogant enough to tick off basically everyone.

So, I ask for volunteers to step up and show the great Starenellian Empire its place. Its arrogance is not completely out of line, and it is huge(God-Mode Huge, but hopefully that will not be an issue.), so it will take a few nations and lots of explosives to destroy it. Lots and lots of explosives, and KE weapons, and all sorts of fun things like that. Planet destroying weapons are welcome, but if we could throw in a few things that only kill most of the population, and leave a few, perhaps mutate some(The Empire is all human, but I would like to develop a few new races.), that would be good too.

Allies are welcome too, but the Empire in its current form will be destroyed, so it may be better to befriend the various breakaway groups that will form into the new Starenell at the end.

A major dynamic of this roleplay is its size, so it should be nice and epic, and will probably consist of many separate threads.(Sieges of various planets/solar systems, etc). This also means that the various invading nations will have a hand in shaping Starenell. I will have control in the end, but I have very little for a set plan. If you use some sort of chemical on a planet that makes certain traits develop in the surviving citizens, help decide what those traits are. If you befriend a group of refugees and give them some technology, Starenell may use some aspect of that when that faction reaches the others. Also, since I want some worlds to live on, but not be too hospitable, think of interesting ways to destroy it while leaving a skilled population alive. (Burning, freezing, introducing certain chemicals, introducing certain monstrous beasts.)

So who wants to blow some planets up?

Invaders so far:

Amazonian Beasts
Telros(Enemy of Chronosia)
Gurguvungunit
Xharn(Enemy of Chronosia?)
Chronosia(Enemy of Telros)
Maldorians
British Londinium
Kendari(With multiple nations)
Hyperspatial Travel(Alongside Telros, fighting Chronosia)
Menelmacar
The Garbage Men(In a sneaky way)
The New Julii
New Brittonia
Demonic Gophers
Angelic Gophers
United Terran Federation(TFU)
Dratheria

Splinter Factions:

Starenell
Theorasia
Chaos Starenell

Rescuers:

Tidan

Thank you for making this thread Starenell, and bringing back a GOOD thread to FT!

I'd love to be in. My nation's pretty evil and likes to kill/enslave other beings (more on the former than the latter, we already enslave our own), and I have plenty of weapons to do so. I could mutate some of your guys, or release beastly beasts on your nation, or elsewise, if you want new races...


Either way, I'd love to be in.

Sure. Has FT degenerated significantly in my absence?

Sounds great, any of those are cool, and if you have ideas on what those races are like that's welcome too.

Sounds good, its great to already have a big guy in here.

Hmm, well the Tau Empire could *ahem* "liberate" a good portion of you.

For the Greater Good of course.

Cool with me.

I'll bite at this one. Gurguvungunit is pretty much a schizophrenic collection of storylines right now, since I don't RP with it... like... ever... but I'd be happy to have a good ol' slugfest with someone who can RP well.

I could either RP as a small collection of planets in an out-of-the-way system or as a rival (but much smaller) star nation... your pick. I don't have much to go off of history-wise, but that can sort itself out. My main question would be: what kind of tech are we looking at here? Is this space opera with shields, death lasers and technobabble cannons (ion cannon, particle beam cannon, neutrino lance etc) or are we doing mass drivers, ablative armour, inertial maneuvering etc?

I'm just curious, 'cause it determines what kind of RP we're doing in some aspects.

Sure. Has FT degenerated significantly in my absence?

Sounds great, any of those are cool, and if you have ideas on what those races are like that's welcome too.

Sounds good, its great to already have a big guy in here.

FT's gone somewhat exclusive these days...

On the races: sounds good. My factbook in my sig has all my races of my nation in it, I could leave behind some non-sentient beasts to populate one of your planets if you want some natural hazards...

Yeah, I have that problem. That why I did this.

Ummm... I can probably do space opera better, since its easier, but we could do different versions in different Theaters of combat. I like the more realistic version too, but I am not nearly as knowledgeable in it, so people would have to put up with a learner.

It certainly does. Either way, I'm out for tonight, bye everyone.

Yes, it has degenerated big time. Only a few players are left, struggling to carry on the fight for GOOD rp.

However, much disgusting rp has hammered our defenses, making us weak. Your reinforcements shall see us win the day.

...Uhh, or make us happy at seeing a sane, thinking human being. Either works.

Yes, it has degenerated big time. Only a few players are left, struggling to carry on the fight for GOOD rp.

However, much disgusting rp has hammered our defenses, making us weak. Your reinforcements shall see us win the day.

...Uhh, or make us happy at seeing a sane, thinking human being. Either works.

Don't give up the fight! :p

FT is fine. Go back to your homes.

TGM are interested in participating in this, not in an overt "send flagged military" sort of way... but perhaps as a supplier of assorted generic weaponry, perhaps intel, and basically sneaky guys or perhaps some type of biological, toxic, radioactive or other such Weapon of Mass Destruction...

^Lies!^

The Cybernetic Union of Xharn would most likely invade such a power. If the Empire is mostly populated by humans the Cyborgs will try to incorporate them into the Union. If your population is some alien species then we would invade just to purge them from galaxy. The Cybernetic Union is sort of like a Borg collective with the ideology of Daleks to terminate anything that is not human and incorporate/assimilate all the humans possible…

The Imperium is eager to welcome divergent strands of Humanity beneath the banner of the Gods of Chaos, so long as they submit and convert. Those aliens and heathens who resist deserve only glorious death before the altars of blood, torment within the lairs of the Slaaneshi.

Open your minds to Tzeentch and leave your flesh to Nurgle and you shall, all of you, be rewarded. ;)

Pah, begone foul Chaos. You have no place in the Greater Good and as such, you are a danger to all those with good in their hearts. Begone or feel the wrath of the Tau like never before!

...Telros, Chron could kill you and HT twice over and wipe the bloody remains on his clean white shirt...and that's because you guys are big :p

And I don't care. It'd make for fun rp. =P

The Imperium is eager to welcome divergent strands of Humanity beneath the banner of the Gods of Chaos, so long as they submit and convert. Those aliens and heathens who resist deserve only glorious death before the altars of blood, torment within the lairs of the Slaaneshi.

Open your minds to Tzeentch and leave your flesh to Nurgle and you shall, all of you, be rewarded. ;)

Sweet!!, Incorporating Chaos space marines into the Union! That would make one heck of a combat drone!

Yes, I would like that too.

Edit: TIME WARP!

And I don't care. It'd make for fun rp. =P

Definately tru dat...though I'd love to see the Tau fight CoreWorlds's "good guys".

Sorry but I am so comepletely over bored with Jedi/ Sith ..and lets not go anywhere near War Hammer 40K for sanities sake - that I am going to stay out of this.

First I'd like to say really cool idea Starenell.

I'd actually like to ask something. Could one of these breakaway groups turn into the FT Theoroshian nation? Right now, I'm RPing in FT topics as a Bug nation that destroys everything in it's path.

Frankly, though, I want to start RPing as my own nation. You don't have to do this, just a thought.

Can I join this if it's still open?

I've always wanted to try some FT - may I join?

This looks like grand fun indeed. Would it be acceptable for me to involve multiple nations, as long as I keep them in separate parts of the overall war, or am I going to need to decide which of my collection is most fitting for this?

This is actually kinda similar to Kendari's origin-story, now that I think about it. It's also a remnant of an ancient and shattered empire.

It might be worth noting that as this RP gets larger, it'll also become more complex. Perhaps to the point where it'd be unworkable, and that's no fun.

I might be interested in this. My people are kinda sittin in the middle of space copulating and trying to find a place to live. Maybe taking a planet would prove greatly benificial to them...

and of course,

TO CRUSH THE EVIL OPPRESIVE ISLAMIC EMPIRE OF THE STARS!

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I mean... bring democracy to the people of afghanistan...

...Telros, Chron could kill you and HT twice over and wipe the bloody remains on his clean white shirt...and that's because you guys are big :p

If you think Chron has any clean white shirts unstained by blood, you're sadly mistaken.

But yes, I'd be interested in participating this, alongside Telros. It's a fairly big undertaking, and skirmishing with Chaos along the way would be sure to be fun.

Sorry for hijacking, but HT TG…

I'll be honest, I've been itching to give someone a good stomping for a while. I might throw my hat into this ring.

Yes, it has degenerated big time. Only a few players are left, struggling to carry on the fight for GOOD rp.

It would help if they stuck with the RPs they join, of course...

Okay, sounds good. People who just want a planet or two, fine with me. Anyone who wants to skirmish with anyone else, that should also be fun. Chronosia, I have to admit I wanted you in on this, it seemed like your kind of thing. A few remnants may convert to Chaos, but most will not so bring out the Chaos Space Marines.

Other questions:

Multiple nations- Fine, you can even have them meet, unless you don't want them to. I would suggest only sending one or two when the various forces get to the Core of the Empire, because those will all see each other.

People can still join.

My idea for containing this as it get larger is to have theaters of the Empire. There will be a bunch of weak Outer Provinces, then the main worlds of the Empire, then the big central province in the end. People will work their way through, meeting others as they go, but if a conflict is not resolved(Someone drops out), we can just skip that province and it will stay behind. The RP as a whole may not even n ever really finish, showing how there is so much empire, it may just be resolved enough for me to use out nation, and then a fun place to time warp back to.

Welcome back Starenell!! Didn't think I'd be seeing you again.

Is this empire in anyway related to the Starenell that was part of the GFFA at one point? If so I will already have some relation with it. I'm assuming it wont so I'd start from scratch.

I think Tidan would be more likely to try to liberate a small group of innocents. Do you have any kind of religious order in Starenell? Something good though, if so I could liberate some of them or maybe a monestary world...? I'm trying form my nation into being more controlled by an Order something like chivalrous priors, so they would probably like to ensure the safety of others like themselves.

If not I'll just find some nice people to bring to safety.

Thank you, its good to see you.

Ehh, no. They may have records of the other Starenells, but they are not the same, and the Empire would probably fit in better with the ESUS or GE(No offense to either) But the new Starenell may join the GFFA, or not, I am unsure of how they will feel about large alliance like it.

Hmmm....Theres probably some sort of monastery world, or you could just have your advisers think a certain world is better aligned with Tidan than the others. Either way, those survivors would probably take a bit of Tidan with them when the rejoined Starenell. (Culture, some tech that you don't mind parting with)

Yeah, maybe I'll make a world with some extra nice people for them to save, that sounds good.

Okay, sounds good. People who just want a planet or two, fine with me. Anyone who wants to skirmish with anyone else, that should also be fun. Chronosia, I have to admit I wanted you in on this, it seemed like your kind of thing. A few remnants may convert to Chaos, but most will not so bring out the Chaos Space Marines.

Other questions:

Multiple nations- Fine, you can even have them meet, unless you don't want them to. I would suggest only sending one or two when the various forces get to the Core of the Empire, because those will all see each other.

People can still join.

My idea for containing this as it get larger is to have theaters of the Empire. There will be a bunch of weak Outer Provinces, then the main worlds of the Empire, then the big central province in the end. People will work their way through, meeting others as they go, but if a conflict is not resolved(Someone drops out), we can just skip that province and it will stay behind. The RP as a whole may not even n ever really finish, showing how there is so much empire, it may just be resolved enough for me to use out nation, and then a fun place to time warp back to.

Eh, I personally will probaly try and attack a major front rather than a few worlds...that's how I roll :p

Not sure if we'll need to work together on this or what, but with everybody in like this, I sure hope your nation is real big, Starenell...

You don't need to be part of the GFFA or any alliance, I was just wondering if I would already have connections with them or not, and thats all cleared up now.

I don't mind them taking culture or tech at all. I like the monestary world idea, but we'll see how things play out. I'm looking forward to this, I havn't done much lately.

@Tidan, I know, just musing things...aloud?

Cool, should be fun.

@Amazonian Beasts, Yeah, I plan on having a few fortress worlds and shipyards, as well as a few capital areas. Plenty of minor worlds to roll over, or capture if anyone wants them.

I plan on leaving it ambiguous. In terms of the overall power of the units, it will be about the same, but there will be enough so that I outnumber anyone one side in a given battle, and the number will cause a wicked cool defeat or even a few victories.

Menelmacar is thinking of joining?
*cowers*

Heh, would you prefer to attack the theaters opposite Menelmacar?

Menelmacar is thinking of joining?
*cowers*

The '02 dwarfs the '03...:D


We're all in this together though...hopefully...

Can I join, MT NB is very non-interventionist after prior internal wars, PT NB is so wrapped up in its own civil war that it can't really do anything outside of its own nation,so FT NB will be a very nationalistic and imperalistic. Oh, if you didn't know, count me in.

Sure, come on in.

Starenell: If my forces invade in force can we cyberform subdued planets? The process will drain all the natural resources and giant metallic factories and structures will be built along the surface. The process will permanently damage the ecosystem and the atmosphere killing the native wildlife and causing the atmosphere to become highly toxic with methane and sulfur. I figure if the Starenell people ever reclaim these worlds, They would provide nice production worlds but the people would have to be in special bio suites to avoid poisoning from the atmosphere....

Sure. I assume this takes place over some time though, so perhaps the Empire(Or a splinter faction) could attempt to retake a few. Either way, the Empire is waaay to big for me to control, so people can do whatever they want with what they capture. (But blowing planets up is good. I cannot stress its importance enough.)

Are there joining to be teams because right now it looks like a blob of empires/fleets just gonna smash each other...:[

Sure. I assume this takes place over some time though, so perhaps the Empire(Or a splinter faction) could attempt to retake a few. Either way, the Empire is waaay to big for me to control, so people can do whatever they want with what they capture. (But blowing planets up is good. I cannot stress its importance enough.)

Do we have to completely blow up the planet to make it the best, or simply scorch its surface into a blasted wasteland...:D (trust me, I'll be creative)

Do we have to completely blow up the planet to make it the best, or simply scorch its surface into a blasted wasteland...:D (trust me, I'll be creative)

If we receive to much resistance in our efforts to incorporate humans, My Cyborgs would like to simply drop fusion bombs and Biological warheads to destroy the resistance of the population while leaving the planet useable and maybe leave a few mutants around in the shattered ruins of radiated or virally plagued cities....

Multiple nations- Fine, you can even have them meet, unless you don't want them to. I would suggest only sending one or two when the various forces get to the Core of the Empire, because those will all see each other.

Sure. I assume this takes place over some time though, so perhaps the Empire(Or a splinter faction) could attempt to retake a few. Either way, the Empire is waaay to big for me to control, so people can do whatever they want with what they capture. (But blowing planets up is good. I cannot stress its importance enough.)

I'd like to bring in a dreadnought, then - maybe two, depending on how certain other circumstances work out. I'm sure I can come up with some IC explanation for its presence, and this will provide a nice opportunity to use my ultra-heavy weapons.

My primary involvement, though, would best come in the form of my Evil Alternate (http://www.nationstates.net/angelic_gophers). The Angori are perfectly willing to blow up planets - or stars, for that matter - and would also be likely to do things like conduct bizarre genetic experiments on captives for their amusement. Should have the potential for some interesting aftereffects for you to play with.

Do you mind a bit of magic, as long as it's kept reasonable? If that would be a problem, I can keep it far enough in the background that it won't be noticeable.

@ Maldorians: It may start as a buch of people smashing into each other, but
Tidan will be on my side, and the various attackers can create alliance.(A bunch of people are already allying against Chronosia)

@Amazonian Beasts: Creativity is most important. Have fun.

@Xharn: Cool with me.

@Demonic Gophers: Dreadnoughts are fine. They are all that Demgori build right?

I hadn't realized the Angori were the evil ones. I assume if the two groups meet they will not be on great terms, so the Staric survivors at the end will probably want an alliance with the Demgori. Either way, Angori experiments and such would be great.

Magic is great actually. If there's a way it could rub off on the survivors, that's even better.

What kind of techbase are we working with? In my experience I find that it's good to hammer some things out beforehand. FTL, for example, is pretty important to keep constant. I ran across one that I rather like, called the Alderson Drive. Also: weapons. Do we want zomgsuperturboplasmalasers, or nukes that don't do all that much. X-Ray lasers? Shields? Anyway, I'll open this up for the peanut gallery.

Definitely a good idea. I can change the empire as appropriate, so what does everyone else want to work with?

It will probably be difficult to limit the use of FTL, but imposing time limits may be good. I do not plan on having Starenell use any FTLis, unless they borrow it from someone else, so again, that up to you guys.

A few questions to get this laid out:

What are the main Weapons you use/would like to use:
Main FTL:
Main Shielding:
Anything else:

Stolen from a hard-SF website about ship design, but the Alderson Drive itself is pretty reasonable for our purposes. Read (http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/rocket3v.html#mote)

I'd stick up for this one.

I suggest making tech base a theater-specific decision. As long as people are reasonable about it, it can be fun seeing how distinctly different forms of technology fit together and interact.

Also, I suspect I'm not the only one who would prefer not to give up custom equipment of my own design, if avoidable.

A ban on near-instant long range transportation seems quite reasonable, though.

(ooc: I'm interested in joining this rp so are sign ups still open?)

@Gurguvungunit: Yeah, I read the wiki on it so I have the basic idea, I'll read that page in a bit.

@Kendari: I like the theater based idea, but how do we resolve that when we get to the core of the Empire where its all one theater? And its quite fine not to give up technology, I understand completely. I just need somethings to start of on other than Star Wars tech, so stealing whats given to me will be cool.

@TFU: Yeah, I assume you want to be an invader.


For basic FTL, I'm gonna say fluff(Description)-wise, it can be whatever you want, but you have to hop from solar system to solar system, and nothing too instantaneous.

If thats ok yeah you can put me down. do you have msn Starenell?

Put me down as the United Terran Federation

Hm, that is a question. Of course, some theaters will probably never reach the core, but we'd still need a way to fit together all those that did. Perhaps some unusual environmental effects in the area that limit the functionality of some types of technology - a form of exotic radiation, or some such.

Does the current Empire practice slavery? That'd give Kendari a good reason to take action against it. If not, I may use Mirror Kendari (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12473890&postcount=31) instead; they wouldn't need any reason to attack.

As for the tech question...

I mix Star Wars, Star Trek, and my random mind glitches to form my tech. I don't mind giving up the dimensional stuff I got, but as for hyperspace and pulse phasers and matter/antimatter reactors, that's pretty standard FT stuff I'd prefer not to leave as the core of my FT nation.

As for other things...I'm not a big fan of cloaking or invisability things. Use it if you want, but to counter I use a scanner that looks for gravitational anomalies, and unless you are out of this dimension, there's no hiding from it (because your ship technically has mass and is still in the dimension, so it has gravity).

Shield-wise, I use ray and particle shields of energy to counter against both energy and physical weaponry.


If you want to look at a lot of my stuff, follow the link in my sig and go to the second page, where I list all my tech that usually matters in RPs.

@TFU: Okay. No MSN, though I may be getting one soon and if I do I will tell you.

@Kendari: I like that idea. As to slavery, I think it does. Unless you would prefer to use the Mirror Kendari, but if not total slavery, its definitely close(Serfdom, impressed military)

@Amazonian Beasts: Yeah you can leave that, we just have to figure out where to put it. CLoaking I don't care much about, if someone wants it we can incorporate, but it won't be any uber cloak of invisibility.

Sounds good; if you get MSN, be sure to hit me up at finsnumber13@hotmail.com

As for slavery, I'd love to attack slave-holding worlds (for...non-liberation purposes...)

Somebody has to be a bad guy.

Somebody has to be a bad guy.

Chron's probaly your man, but if he for some bizarre reason ain't feeling up to that, than I'd take that...

Oh, I wasn't lamenting lack of bad guys, just responding to your non-liberation purposes reply. I was counting on Chron for that one, though you're welcome to step up to that as well, as is anoyone else. (Although now I get the feeling its going to turn into a contest of who can torture the imperials worst. Fun.)

Well, while the Tau aren't necessarily evil, they can be the bad guy for you. They see everyone as needing to join the Greater Good. If they refuse, they will be....persuaded by various ways to join or be destroyed.

I'm pretty much cool with anything, although shields=meh. But I'm willing to go with the flow on that. I just watched Doctor Stragelove, so expect some planet slagging to occur on my end. When would we think about kicking this whole thing off?

The Imperium would bring a holy crusade to those that would not subjugate themselves to the Emperor's will. His grand fleets would fill the stars and His holy warriors the Adeptus Astartes would be led by the Emperor's sons the Primarchs. We will cleanse the foul xenos from the planets and claim them in the name of the Emperor and those who will not bow to the Imperial Rule will be forced to bow OR DIE. :D

Hmm. In answer to your question, Starenell, Menelmacari technology is a mix of magic, gravitics, plasma weapons, and assorted necron-ish tech from 40k. Not necessarily in that order. I wholeheartedly admit it gets scarily wanky, and I generally expect people to understand they'll take some pretty horrific losses if they attack me. After all, you didn't see the Taliban trying to ignore cruise missiles and stealth bombers.

@Telros, yeah, some will join you freely, the empire is not a happy place to live. On the other hand, some planets will fight to the death for it.

@Gurguvungunit, sounds fun. As for starting it up...whenever we get a map, theaters, and a basic whop is where running I'm going to post a thread about the Empire making contact and pretty much insulting everyone. Meanwhile though, some rebels might also try to make contact, to ask for aid against the empire.

@Dratheria, Okay, I assume this means you will take on Chronosia.

@Menelmacar. Sounds cool, especially the magic and necron stuff. The wankiness should be fine, but people will have to be careful not to attack your theater, and you may want not to send too many people into the core. Also, clearly this is up to you, but as I said, I like that idea for tech, so anything you can allow the rebels to steal would be great. I don't want it to be too wanky, just have an ace or two up my sleeve.

Lol yes we will battle the forces of Chaos with the light of the Emperor by our side. :D However we will also annex any other planets and territories we can. :sniper:

Remember this, team. Elves die just like anything else. Remember this, Siri...my good boy...II is a completely different ball game. You're playing cricket, they're playing baseball.

Thats a rather crude generalisation. Some of us are multi-talented :P

What in god's name do you mean by that?

What in god's name do you mean by that?

Sol is a different place from II and vice versa. That's what I mean by it. You can't just come screaming out of one and expect to do well in the other.

Right. Well, now that you are done congratulating how awesome you are, an arrogant opinion shared by you and you alone, either contribute to the thread or leave.

If I am needed for this venture, please let me know.

Starenell: A lot of Menelmacari kit is guarded pretty jealously. If possible they'll even comb a battlefield afterwards to make sure they didn't leave anything behind. That said, it's conceivably possible for plasrifles or similar small kit to fall into rebel hands somehow and be knocked off (though probably knockoffs won't be as good as the originals, at least not at first). Another possibility would be some magical artifact which the rebels don't know what it does, or possibly even how to use it - this could even be something that could kick off another thread for you (what is it? what does it do?). After that you'd have a nice ace-in-the-hole, or there could be yet another thread revolving around the Menelmacari efforts to recover whatever it is. A third possibility - Menelmacar does do exports, though again, not their current-generation military kit. If the rebels come into some quantity of foreign currency, such a transaction might be arranged. Either way, probably best if we just go with the flow and see what happens, instead of trying to build a whole war around getting x into the hands of y.

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And as for you, Auman, dear, given the circumstances under which you and your halfwit brother got laughed off Mars, I don't think you're in much the position to be giving your, ah, unique flavor of advice. :D

Yeah go with the flow sounds good.

Auman... weren't you the one that tried (and failed) to annihilate LRR a few years back?

*shuns*
EDIT: I threw up a bit of a factbook for my space nation. Have a look (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536533).

Lrr?

Lunatic Retard Robots. Reggae fan, reader of Douglas Adams, masked wonder.

He's an FTer from back in like 2003-4, now RPs on A Modern World.

Ah I see.

Well, anyways, I am all set to join this now, seeing as I have finally finished the factbook, the military part anyways.

Menelmacar is thinking of joining?
*cowers*

It gets worse. Where Siri goes, so do I. For a start, I've been told that I'm not blowing enough things up and killing enough people, so brutally 'harvesting' a chaos world or two or ten (and then blowing them out of the stars) might satisfy some people.

That said, I expect both Siri and I would probably qualify more as 'rescuers' and the main limit on FTL, given that we both use (though she has an alternative) spectacularly fast means of travel, the necessity of evacuating populations (who will mysteriously be resettled on habitats somewhere out of the way and then never heard of again, for purpouses of balance) would limit the amount of jumping around we could do.

Also if Starenell doesn't mind, I have a number of puppets in a range of power, from 'powerful' right down to 'joke' that might enjoy variously enslaving or purging the Starenell empire. Alas, my Dark Eldar are headed for total oblivion in another thread. But I suppose I could get around that with fluid-time (same for the puppets I've yet to intro, if you like), if you don't mind raids and random inscrutable actions by a buch of my less-active puppets. Offhand, I can think of three that would be into slave raids, one that would be into both changing the Starenell population in subtle ways, and bombarding any planets that displease their strange motives. And possibly something with my Ori (stargate) one. But they've no real excuse to be here yet...

I am... Random Encounter Man!
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Auman, sorry to disappoint, but I've had no problems interacting in II over the years regardless of what you might think. Chronosia in particular, while he has his flaws (chief amongst them, not posting), is great fun and quite ameinable to sense.

Dammit! And I was all gonna be 'I'm a big scary April '03 nation! Bwahaha!' And then y'all come and ruin my fun.

Yeah, well, I was like "Yes! I'm a big monstrous November '03 nation!"

And then it was more like. "Well. There's Siri. Well, darn. I guess I'll just go over to this corner here and cry."

Oh, and out of curiosity, Siri and Ctan, what are your stances on the Tau? We have the same sort of attitudes as canonical Tau, so.. yeah. Would you be fighting against us?

...and to think, I felt good as a December '05 when no one else had signed up :p

Technically my factbook's not done, but it's detailed enough for people to get the idea of what my civ is...though occassionally I'll throw in something from my military that's not in my factbook.

@ Ctan: Sounds good. I like the idea of relocating populations, though I may find one, it would be a cool RP. None of them will be allied with Starenell though. However, it would also be great if the Staric group that ends up being me could have some contact with you too.

Puppets are cool too, although we may want to be careful as this is pretty crowded already.

I've been planning to introduce a FT empire using this account some time. Could I bring in an invasion fleet from the Jherdakil Empire and seize a chunk of territory with a few inhabited planets? Basically I'd be bringing in enough military forces for a nation of about 7.5 billion people, along with quite a lot of supply ships, and trying to gain control of enough people to support it. Since the fleet would be trying to capture planets without depopulating them, this could allow some nice ground battles, along with underground resistance movements and such.

I probably wouldn't move into the core at all; once Jherdak has captured a decent population base, they're going to pretty much concentrate on getting it solidly under their control. If they take a few extra planets, they might make examples of the first ones that cause trouble.

If you're interested in technological enhancements for your soldiers, examining captured Jher Dakkar could give you a good start in that direction.

I'd say that would be fine, Ghout, as that is what Stern wants, from what I have gotten from what he has said.

Also, I second HT's question to both C'Tan and Siri, how would you react to the Tau, with our canon stances and views? Foes? Friends?

Oh and Menelmacar, that outburst I did a long time ago at you; I apologize, I shouldn't have done that.

It gets worse. Where Siri goes, so do I. For a start, I've been told that I'm not blowing enough things up and killing enough people, so brutally 'harvesting' a chaos world or two or ten (and then blowing them out of the stars) might satisfy some people.

That said, I expect both Siri and I would probably qualify more as 'rescuers' and the main limit on FTL, given that we both use (though she has an alternative) spectacularly fast means of travel, the necessity of evacuating populations (who will mysteriously be resettled on habitats somewhere out of the way and then never heard of again, for purpouses of balance) would limit the amount of jumping around we could do.

Also if Starenell doesn't mind, I have a number of puppets in a range of power, from 'powerful' right down to 'joke' that might enjoy variously enslaving or purging the Starenell empire. Alas, my Dark Eldar are headed for total oblivion in another thread. But I suppose I could get around that with fluid-time (same for the puppets I've yet to intro, if you like), if you don't mind raids and random inscrutable actions by a buch of my less-active puppets. Offhand, I can think of three that would be into slave raids, one that would be into both changing the Starenell population in subtle ways, and bombarding any planets that displease their strange motives. And possibly something with my Ori (stargate) one. But they've no real excuse to be here yet...

I am... Random Encounter Man!
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Auman, sorry to disappoint, but I've had no problems interacting in II over the years regardless of what you might think. Chronosia in particular, while he has his flaws (chief amongst them, not posting), is great fun and quite ameinable to sense.

Forgive me! I am easily distracted! I have other flaws? :( *sniffle*

Sounds fun Ghout, infantry battle will be cool.

Telros, absolutely correct, have a medal.

On Tau: We consider Tau as precocious, a little deluded, and mostly harmless. There's actually a Tau player attacking Menelmacar elsewhere, too. Incidentally, in past posts, back when I was unaware of any other Tau players, I did a post involving this version of Farsight (http://uk.games-workshop.com/tau/converting-farsight/3/) and his minions. I'd say I'm fairly neutral on Tau. "They're cute, but very very silly."

Chronosia: Well, you're also a bit too ordered for my general conception of chaos. Though the next CSM codex suits you quite well in that respect. Renegades galore!

We do Chaotic things though. If Chaos didn't have some sense of Order, then how would you have the Legions, or Cults? :P Theres method in madness, after all. Besides, you're hardly one to talk about defying general conceptions, given what you've done with your C'tan and Necrons :P
To each their own ;)

You'll enjoy that new codex. The idea seems to be that most of the marines don't fight as legions, but fight wherever circumstance happens to take them, often in warbands composed of various renegades and members of the traitor legions. Oh, and it gives you more excuse to corrupt other people's space marines... ;)

I'd say that would be fine, Ghout, as that is what Stern wants, from what I have gotten from what he has said.

Also, I second HT's question to both C'Tan and Siri, how would you react to the Tau, with our canon stances and views? Foes? Friends?

Oh and Menelmacar, that outburst I did a long time ago at you; I apologize, I shouldn't have done that.
My view on Tau is pretty similar to C'tan's, and I'm encountering another sept in another thread, as was stated.

Apology wholeheartedly accepted, don't worry about it... water under the bridge, my friend, I'd actually already forgotten about it.

Sooo. When do we get started?

I was just thinking that. Ummmm, does someone want to find me or do I have to work and have the Empire find you guys?

we can just assume that you know us and we know you. Then either set off the event that starts this pile on or we can just start invading. I think we just need some info on the regions of your empire so we know where we are and who we are with.

Despite turning to a more peaceful stance of exploration, the Dominion still has a massive warfleet and would like to contribute a chunk of its resources. It's been a while since we've had some good old fashioned war. I'm also planning on adding a ground invasion aspect. I don't know if anyone intended to do this already, but I plan on invading many of the planets to preserve them and bombarding the rest.

OOC: If you come find us I'd like you to really piss us off. Opening fire on our homeworld or some of our shipyards would be provocation enough to commit the resources I plan to send.

As most of the attacking parties are not aligned with each other, it is probably best to have the Empire somewhat well known galactically, and then be known as somewhere falling into disorder, and then subject to invasion and atrocity (*Peers at Chronosia*). That should give everyone a reason to be there, as long as they're not isolationist.

Dreadnoughts are fine. They are all that Demgori build right?

I hadn't realized the Angori were the evil ones. I assume if the two groups meet they will not be on great terms, so the Staric survivors at the end will probably want an alliance with the Demgori. Either way, Angori experiments and such would be great.

Magic is great actually. If there's a way it could rub off on the survivors, that's even better.

Yeah, aside from small, unarmed shuttles for landing stuff from the dreadnoughts onto uncaptured planets.

That we are. Mind you, the Demgori aren't precisely nice, but they're nicer than the Angori, and a lot more honest and straightforward. Also, they don't practice slavery.

I expect there'll be a bit of conflict between Demgori and Angori forces, but mostly the Angori will try to avoid the Demgori dreads. Angelic Gopher ships are faster in a number of ways.

In that case, I can put the magic right in the foreground, and perhaps involve a few Angori nobles in a more active role than I usually use them. A bit of rubbing off of magic should be arrangeable.

Oh, I wasn't lamenting lack of bad guys, just responding to your non-liberation purposes reply. I was counting on Chron for that one, though you're welcome to step up to that as well, as is anoyone else. (Although now I get the feeling its going to turn into a contest of who can torture the imperials worst. Fun.)

Indeed, indeed! No dearth of villains here. Is there going to be a prize for the winner?

we can just assume that you know us and we know you. Then either set off the event that starts this pile on or we can just start invading. I think we just need some info on the regions of your empire so we know where we are and who we are with.

The Angori will be happy to start raiding as soon as they notice the proverbial blood in the water. The Demgori could be drawn in by noticing their activities, or just because you've down something to annoy them. They definitely won't like the impressed military; they were originally created to serve as an enslaved army for an evil sorcerer. Alas, he forgot to make them controllable...:D

I dunno, just piss off a patrol group of my ships, the Gurguviis are pretty expansionist and quick to irritate. Think of us as a 1690s Britain, if you will. Delusions of grandeur and not that impressive an armed force, but plenty of balls.

EDIT: If you want, I can get the ball rolling. I've got time on my hands today.

EDIT 2: In anticipation of starting soon, I just want to ask one or two more tech questions. I promise I won't harp after this.
1) I'm thinking of going the no shields route on the basis of wankery. Will I get OMGWTFPWNED by everyone who uses shields?
2) For the same reason, I'm thinking mainly nukes and kinetics as weapons. Nukes primarily (stand off missile fights YAY) and kinetics as PD. X-ray lasers for giant death beam factor, but you can't turret 'em so I'll have to vector for firing. Again, am I going to get WTFPWNED?
3) Magic... well, I guess I'll deal with that as it comes. I'm beginning to think that the Star Union is going to have a rough time of it.
a) I don't NEED to be opposite Menelmacar, I'm perfectly happy with being murderized. I'll just mostly leave him (her? I can't remember) alone.

The no shields thing may not be the best idea if you don't want heavier than average losses. Mine happen to be the opposite, absorbing the energy from directed energy weapons and piping it into the power grid. However to cancel out the godmode factor I made them really susceptible to mass driven weapons.

You don't neccessarily need the "external" shields so to speak (energy fields that stick off the hull), but you may want powered armor (armor charged with energy to reinforce the hull) if you aren't doing shields to protect against heavy weapons.

Updated my Gurguvii Star Union Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536533) with ship classes.

EDIT: And to kick things off: Seeds of Empire (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=537486).

In anticipation of starting soon, I just want to ask one or two more tech questions. I promise I won't harp after this.
1) I'm thinking of going the no shields route on the basis of wankery. Will I get OMGWTFPWNED by everyone who uses shields?
2) For the same reason, I'm thinking mainly nukes and kinetics as weapons. Nukes primarily (stand off missile fights YAY) and kinetics as PD. X-ray lasers for giant death beam factor, but you can't turret 'em so I'll have to vector for firing. Again, am I going to get WTFPWNED?
3) Magic... well, I guess I'll deal with that as it comes. I'm beginning to think that the Star Union is going to have a rough time of it.
a) I don't NEED to be opposite Menelmacar, I'm perfectly happy with being murderized. I'll just mostly leave him (her? I can't remember) alone.

1) Well, you won't be the only FT nation around that doesn't use shields (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11550100&postcount=67)... If you run up against something fancy, like disintegrators or mass conversion weapons, it's going to hurt. Good armor can handle most conventional weapons pretty well, though, and tactics can go a long way to cover a weakness. If you write well enough (which, judging from Seeds of Empire, shouldn't be a problem) and are willing to put some effort into it, you should be able to get by just fine, I think.
2) Well, I don't think you'll be smashing enemy ships like soda cans with that arsenal, but you should be able to manage. With the right materials, I think you could get a mirror-type arrangement that would let you aim the lasers, to a limited extent.
3) I generally figure that cultures who have no experience with magic might have a certain amount of resistance to its effects.


Starenell: If you'd like, I can bring in one of my villains to do some experimentation in biotechnology and cybernetics. This could give you an interesting 'subspecies' of heavily nanite-infested humans. Xhertahk is a robot who functions largely on chaos-magic, so there's no telling what effects some of his experiments might have. Could easily provide some of your people with access to magic, as well as the technological modifications.

We need to figure out who's going to be involved in which theater.

I'm liking a lot of the ideas being thrown around... this could turn out to be pretty epic. I'm looking forward to getting started.

Indeedy-do. Just a heads-up, I'm moving tomorrow, and may not have internets access for up to a fortnight. So, yeah. The Tau were probably planning on being a late entry, in any case.

Started..yes, what a funny idea. perhaps I will even carry through on it this weekend.

I'm gonna be gone from Monday to Wednesday, so either we get this going this weekend, or we wait until Thursday to start, at least on my front.

Thursday's ideal, as I'm on vacation until Friday and will not be particularly active until then, obviously.

Consider without doubt that the Empire of Thrashia will enter this enterprise.

hey if this signup is still open count the nation of reken invading. why are we singleing out chron's enemies? because i have been known to be one in the past. .

i do have a nice bubonic plage bomb that i havent used in decaedes if you would like it. i could also show them the way of the wolfen...what fun.

Don't you have to worry about that Crusade of Drath's, Reken?

Don't you have to worry about that Crusade of Drath's, Reken?

if i were to wait on drath to start that thread i would grow old and die. besides knowing drath this thread will be long done before drath gets that one off the ground.

if i were to wait on drath to start that thread i would grow old and die. besides knowing drath this thread will be long done before drath gets that one off the ground.

Doesn't that imply that one way or another you'll be smarting from one crusade before you dive into another?

Doesn't that imply that one way or another you'll be smarting from one crusade before you dive into another?

I think the old phrase "out of the frying pan and into the fire" comes into play around here...oh, I already said it. :P

well if im not mistaken are both of you also in the same situation as i am? are thrasia and you chron going to be in both threads?. . .

For this I gather a fist, for keeping you and Drath away from what's not yours, I flick a finger.

I imagine for you its the opposite, since your quest for old, worthless and long-forgotten worlds matters to you.

i do wish you would keep up chron i never did say that I was joining drath on his crusade. I merely said i was joining as a third party with my own adjenda. I have no concern for much of the crusade that dratheria plans on attempting.

besides if they are worthless and forgotten as you say why do they matter to the likes of you?

I just like to annoy the heathens.

I won't be taking any part of Drath's crusade. I've other things to do.

Back.

Well this'll take a bit to get off the ground it seems which is why I started my crusade lol

Thats because we put effort into our planning, and this is on a far more massive scale ;)

and that is why i am attemping to be in this because it will be a well planned thread.


hey HT, Thelros do you mind if i join you two on your little skirmish? fighting chron never gets old.

A question, are we all going to be in that Seeds of an Empire thread, or are we all making our own threads starting our war against Starenells Empire?

As for you Reken, I....doubt you would be allowed to fight with us. You are still Chaos, despite having a Chaos God only fanatical fans of your God even consider to be canon, but its Chaos nonetheless. And Tau have a "shoot to kill" philosophy with Chaos, same as Orks.

So working together wouldn't happen. Not if the Tau could help it.

From what I understand Starenell will be divided up into many sectors. Those sectors will become threads and the people in each sector will act in the appropriate thread until the time comes to move further in to the next round.

SO when will these threads get started

so we just need to be looking for threads matching the names of the splinter groups?

And Tau have a "shoot to kill" philosophy with Chaos, same as Orks.

Canonically, of course, they don't really have enough information on them to have such a policy. Back in the day, they killed a Slanesshi warlord, and thought they'd killed the diety him/her/itself. Of course, they're not that likely to ally with anyone who doesn't pay at least lipservice to the Greater Good of Tau.

Canonically, of course, they don't really have enough information on them to have such a policy. Back in the day, they killed a Slanesshi warlord, and thought they'd killed the diety him/her/itself. Of course, they're not that likely to ally with anyone who doesn't pay at least lipservice to the Greater Good of Tau.

Silly Tau, Slaanesh is for kids!

....Well, not really... :P

slaanesh for kids.... you would say that chron. i would take a khorne follower over a slaanesh one anyday.

Thats because you lack eloquence, grace, skill...A certain...Effortless sensuality. Your all brutality and brawn.

ok i will go with eloquence,grace and effortles sensulaity but skill? I wont agree with that. I i believe that i have average to good skill in many aspects of warfare. has any of these threads started yet?

I was just about to ask the same thing. Starenell? You still alive?

Stare, do you want us to individually begin our own theaters via threads, or would you rather create theater threads for us to then post in? Just for clarification so we can begin the romp here...

Dammit, I kind of want to get started. Most of my RPs are stuck in some kind of flux while key members are away, looks like this one is too.

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnn!

The Soaring Saucer is ready to set forth.
*Imitates parrot* Ready to sail! Ready to sail!

In an attempt to get interest for my own FT jaunt...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539523

Starenell just TG'ed me to say that he's swamped with RL stuff and is unable to join the RP.

so what now???