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A Seemingly Crazy RP Idea (Discussion Thread)

Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 20:20
I have decided to drop everything else I'm doing on NS and concentrating all my energies on this one rp, this one idea, this one dream! Many of you know me as a character rper who has a short attention span when it comes to follwowing through with his rps. This is true, but with few destractions on my mind and the fellow NSers of this forum, I know it will work. I don't know if this idea's been done before or not, but I'm going to give it a try. This may very well be an epic endeavour which is bigger than even me. An idea, that if successful, could become a great rping experience. Now that that's out of the way, allow me to give unto you, the rp idea:

Jennifer Government

That's correct! I want to tackle Jennifer Government and turn the novel into an rp. Will it go on the become the greatest rp in recent time? Will it die cold and desolate on the street corners? It all depends on all those willing to travel into the true and original world of Jennifer Government.

The world with the major corporations holding the true power, Socialist Europe, private security firms, the NRA, and the whole nine yards will remain. This could be a great place for Corporate Alliance or capitalistic nations to play a part in. It will revolve around a group of anarchists and social outcasts fighting against the establishment as a mega corporation begins consuming and devouring all other smaller corporations and enveloping new territores with The NRA and Police. US Government agents will be used to infiltrate the terrorists as well as the corporations in a three-way battle for supremacy.

It's going to be a dark comedy, parodying American capitalism and the consumer society as well as...well society itself.

Now, this is where I need help. That's the plot I have. I want you! To help make this dream a reality. I am open to all comments, ideas, discussions, and everything in between. This is a whale of an rp, together, we can make this rp happen!
Xeraph
20-08-2007, 20:27
Wow....when you come up with an idea, you don't screw around! This WOULD be a monumental undertaking. The only concern I have is that Jennifer Government is a copyrighted book. Would Max Barry have a problem with altering (or otherwise screwing around with) it?
New Brittonia
20-08-2007, 20:28
someone actually read the book?
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 20:32
I don't know. It exsists within the Jennifer Government world but the corporations don't have to be the same and there won't be an actual playable character named Jennifer Government. There will be a referal to her but she won;t be a part of the rp, neither of the other major characters as well. I'm not sure if it will be a prequel or a sequel to the novel. If he has a problem, then he can say something about it and then I will end the idea.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 20:32
someone actually read the book?

A brief skimming of the book as well as looking up parts of it on the Internet.
Shenyang
20-08-2007, 20:34
I own and have read the book. It's a great read, I suggest it highly.
Vanek Drury Brieres
20-08-2007, 20:35
Interested, haven't read the book though.
Shenyang
20-08-2007, 20:36
Oh, yeah, I'm game for this RP, should be really interesting if we can pull it off.
The Amerikan Imperium
20-08-2007, 20:40
I read the first two. Kind of twisted and mildly complicated. Sort of like Tom Wolfe meets Hunter S. Thompson with significantly more gunplay. Might work.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 20:45
Excellent, people are answering the call! As long as we believe in this idea, it will succeed. Any ideas on elaborating the plot I already mentioned?
Shenyang
20-08-2007, 20:56
Maybe a sequel type atmosphere detailing a second attempt at overthrowing the 'Government'.

Another possibility is that the European countries, and more specifically their companies, are attempting to muscle into the American market, taking over US Alliance and Team Advantage territory.
Shenyang
20-08-2007, 20:57
I like option 2 personally.
New Brittonia
20-08-2007, 21:01
I read the first two. Kind of twisted and mildly complicated. Sort of like Tom Wolfe meets Hunter S. Thompson with significantly more gunplay. Might work.

Who meets who?
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:01
The sounds like a good plot for the big picture. I have an idea for a multi-layered storyline.

The Big Picture: The US Alliance and Team Advantage vying for power while the Eu and their corporations muscle in on the American market. Government agents infiltrating th corporations in a move by the US Government to regain control. As well as Anarchist and anti-corporation groups battle the establishment

The Little Picture: More character based with the lives of everyday people and the heads of the corporations interact. My character for example is going to be a disillusioned youth who becomes a punk and later joins an anarchist group who's planning to kill a corporate executive. It will detail society and the people caught up in it.
Shenyang
20-08-2007, 21:04
I'll take a slot as a Government Agent infiltrating a corporation, probably the NRA. (which sadly counts as a company in the Jennifer Government universe)
Candistan
20-08-2007, 21:05
I guess I'd be interested in this, even though I haven't read the books, this sounds like this is going somewhere.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:08
Already I can tell this rp will become a tad bit complicated. So, I'm debating on wether or not to make more than one thread.

Also, each of your characters can undergo an independent storyline of your choosing, with occasional interaction with other characters because I see no reason that we have to dive right into the interactions right off the bat in my opinion. I want this to be a nice, witty rp that is light hearted but punctuated with serious plot.
The Amerikan Imperium
20-08-2007, 21:12
Who meets who?


(Sigh)......they are authors who write in the manic/hippy/rambling type of writing known as Gonzo Journalism. The late, great Thompson wrote, among other things, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga. Wolfe wrote The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, the definitive book on the hippies. The way Max Barry writes reminds me of their style.
Candistan
20-08-2007, 21:14
Is it possible for me to join as some sort of PMC? I would think that with the decline in gov't power, PMCs would be in high demand amongst other corporations for security and such.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:16
(Sigh)......they are authors who write in the manic/hippy/rambling type of writing known as Gonzo Journalism. The late, great Thompson wrote, among other things, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga. Wolfe wrote The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, the definitive book on the hippies. The way Max Barry writes reminds me of their style.

This rp will have a sort of hip style to it and will be more of a dark comedy. It will demand skill in writing from each of us to make it a great piece.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:19
Is it possible for me to join as some sort of PMC? I would think that with the decline in gov't power, PMCs would be in high demand amongst other corporations for security and such.

It's pretty much a free-for-all. The possibilities are endless. I want everyone to think freely and be creative and witty.
Shenyang
20-08-2007, 21:21
YES! I get to be witty, sarcastic, and cynical all at the same time! Finally I can RP like I really am! Victory! J/K
British Londinium
20-08-2007, 21:22
I'd join.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:25
I'd join.

Excellent, it's good to see veteran rpers interested as well as newer, more inexperienced ones.
New Brittonia
20-08-2007, 21:32
Excellent, it's good to see veteran rpers interested as well as newer, more inexperienced ones.

LOL, burn!, i dunno why everyone does white for these things, I really prefer Lemon Chiffon any day

XD

interesting, i read a summary on wikipedia, I'll try
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:35
I have to leave now. But feel free to continue discussing possible ideas for the rp.
Candistan
20-08-2007, 21:36
It's pretty much a free-for-all. The possibilities are endless. I want everyone to think freely and be creative and witty.

I read about it on Wiki, and it seems teh organization fitting what I want is the NRA. So can I be that? It would work better with the person who wanted to be an agent infiltrating it.
Kulikovia
20-08-2007, 21:39
Sure, you can be with the NRA.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 00:16
I've got the Government NRA infiltrator covered. I'm working on the character as we speak.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 00:22
Perhaps we should operate this RP out of a central 'root' thread, which has links to each of the sub-threads, which would be the specific threads of the story. (such as an NRA related thread)
Candistan
21-08-2007, 00:25
I've got the Government NRA infiltrator covered. I'm working on the character as we speak.

Okay, that sounds good. I might change the name from the NRA to something more flashy (like Crimson Defense Solutions or something). Actually, CDS sounds good. I'll go with that.
Kurona
21-08-2007, 00:28
Do you need extensive knowledge of the book to participate?
Candistan
21-08-2007, 00:33
Do you need extensive knowledge of the book to participate?

I don't think so. I haven't read it at all, I just looked at the summary on wiki.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 00:53
No, you really don't need any knowledge of the book, beyond some very cursory information.

Basically, the USA controls most of the world, but is so insanely capitalist that the companies actually have more power than the government. The two main groups, US Alliance (NRA, Nike, McDonalds, Pepsi, IBM, and several more) and Team Advantage (the Police, ExxonMobil, Burger King, Apple) are bitter rivals, and their rivally explodes into an all out war when US Alliance goes after both TA and the Government. Ultimately, they fail, when US-A becomes split over the events of this war.

That's the most basic explanation I can come up with.

Oh, all US territories speak 'American' (American English) and everyone has 'American' accents. If you look up the wiki article, you'll see the a map that explains the division of power throughout the world.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 00:55
I would totally participate in this. Hmm... I wonder what happened to the CIA.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 01:01
The CIA, NSA, IRS, DEA, and all other various organizations are now simply 'The Government'. Its the result of the government being so immensely down-sized as to be almost completely useless. Essentially, the USA is almost in a state of 'Anarcho-Capitalism' in the book.
New Brittonia
21-08-2007, 01:02
if no one is piossed at me, can I join?
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 01:03
I say you're welcome to join our little character RP, but that's just me.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 01:06
The CIA, NSA, IRS, DEA, and all other various organizations are now simply 'The Government'. Its the result of the government being so immensely down-sized as to be almost completely useless. Essentially, the USA is almost in a state of 'Anarcho-Capitalism' in the book.
Oh, okay, I couldn't remember if it was merged or now. Thanks.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 01:07
No prob, I know a lot about the book, I've read it like, 4 times.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 01:10
I only read it once. Good book though. Hmm... How much detail does it go into about Africa? I know its pretty chaotic, but that's about it.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 01:11
All it says is that they are currently 'Fragmented Markets' except for South Africa (the country), which is part of the USA.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 01:28
Okay, thanks.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 01:32
No problem, any time.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 01:45
So, what do we have so far...

DSA Mercenary
Government Inflitrator into NRA(Do you want to switch to DSA as well?)
Anarchist Punk trying to kill high-ups.
And whatever I end up being. Hmmm. How can I be from a cool organzation, and against the MegaCorps...
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:00
I guess I might switch my to operative to the DSA, though I'm still tempted to go with the NRA, since I know how they work in the JG universe, and I can manipulate that knowledge to my advantage for creating a convincing RP.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 02:06
We could just assume the two are the same thing but wth a changed name. In fact, that could even be a start point for the RP, the NRA changing its name. Or they could be separate.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 02:12
We could just assume the two are the same thing but wth a changed name. In fact, that could even be a start point for the RP, the NRA changing its name. Or they could be separate.

Yeah, that was basically it. Same old NRA with a new name that's just more catchy.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 02:15
Is it a separate organization that works the same way, or is it the NRA that changed its name. Either way it works like the NRA, the name change is the only difference.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 02:19
Is it a separate organization that works the same way, or is it the NRA that changed its name. Either way it works like the NRA, the name change is the only difference.

Just a name change...
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:20
Ah, then I guess that means that my agent:
Vi CDS (pronounced: VI Cee-Dee-ess)
aka
Vi Government

Is going to be infiltrating the CDS. In a little bit I'll post the bio for my character. Since my character is an infiltrator, they'll have no knowledge of the fact that she's actually Government.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 02:25
Just a name change...

I know, but was it formerly the NRA, or was it always the DSA. Sorry for my stubborn confusion, too much sugar in the brain wonders at destroying ts functionality..
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:27
I sense a little 'Spy vs. Spy' work. Even better, how about my character is tasked with seeking out any spys, while being the real Government spy? I think that'd be interesting.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 02:28
I know, but was it formerly the NRA, or was it always the DSA. Sorry for my stubborn confusion, too much sugar in the brain wonders at destroying ts functionality..

We'll go with the always CDS part. It would make more sense since the NRA isn't exactly a corporation and the CDS could be.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:30
for the purpose of JG, the NRA had become a corporation, just like the police.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 02:36
Yeah, but w/e, CDS already stuck :D
Plus, who said it had to be exactly like the book?
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:38
Doesn't have to, but its meant to be close, of course I'm up for anything that stays within the realm of possibility for the JG universe.
Starenell
21-08-2007, 02:41
Well CDS is in the realm of pssibility. The two could even be rivals, with the CDS relatively a newcomer, and Vi Government sent to check out the new guy(And find spies.)
Candistan
21-08-2007, 02:42
I'm open for anything, so I guess if you really want to I could have the CDS be a rival to the NRA.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:45
Just as a note, odds are, if the NRA and the CDS are rivals, then CDS is probably part of Team Advantage, and allied with the Police*. Of course, you could always say that CDS is an off-shoot of the NRA, then they'd be US-A.

* (That's right, the local police are a company in JG too.)
Starenell
21-08-2007, 02:48
I just suggest thing, I dont "Really want" anything. Unless I say I do.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 02:59
Alright, since I still haven't quite decided who this character will be infiltrating, I listed anything that would be the company name as (Org. TBA). This means (Organization To Be Assigned) and is not an actual company.



Character Profile:


Name: Vi Government

Cover Name: Vi (Org. TBA)

Gender: Female

Age: 28

Height: 5 feet 4 inches

Weight: 106 lbs

Skin: Caucasian

Hair: Brown

Eyes: Violet

--

Government Position: Special Agent

(Org. TBA) Position: Elite Assassination Unit

Armament: Glock 19C (has access to suppressor) (15 round magazines)

Usual Apparel: Black Tee-Shirt / Camouflage Pants / Combat Boots (standard (Org. TBA) fare)

Unique Features: Glasses
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 10:39
This is great seeing all these people willing to go through with the rp. I think the plot is down pretty well and I am for the sub-threads. All we need to do now is come up with character profiles, companies, etc.

I'm still thinking up the specifics for my character. So far, she's a disillusioned teen lost in the consumer society who rebels against the establishment and becomes a punk/anarchist who starts a group whose title I am still debating, either Anarchy Inc or The Villains.

Also, something to make the rp a little more humerous. The capital of the US will shift to New York and Washington D.C. is now just a major tourist attraction and amusement park. Just a little quirky add on.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 14:36
Name: Amber Jordan
Age: 17
Height: 5'6''
Weight: 130lbs
Hair: Black
Eyes: Green
Brief Bio: Amber lives in Hollywood, California with her parents. Amber's father, works as a defense lawyer for a major corporation. Her mother, an artist/computer grapher for another corporation. She lives in a society based off of consumer satisfaction and corporate greed. Disillusioned and irritated, Amber becomes a punk, often listening to The Clash and hanging out with other punks who are ridiculed by the jocks and preppies at her school. As Amber becomes more aware of the Big Picture scheme of the corporations which hold the true power and where the government is inept. She becomes more dangerous and starts an anarchist group which terrorizes Hollywood. Now, they set their sights on a corporate executive and will do anything to bring attention to their cause. Later, she changes her last name and becomes Amber Anarchy.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 15:20
The sad part is, that would make sense in the story line of the book.
New Brittonia
21-08-2007, 16:16
I say you're welcome to join our little character RP, but that's just me.

Ok, what does it mean when Africa and the Mid East are "fragmented markets"?
Candistan
21-08-2007, 16:31
Yeah, I decided to make the CDS a rival to the NRA. Picture it being the spawn of a big merger between Blackwater, OMS, MTS, and Aegis Defense Services. I think it will be good to have a little competition on the defense market.
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-08-2007, 16:39
Name: Thomas Vanek
Age: Looks in his teens, really nobody knows
Height: 6'0
Weight: 155lbs.
Hair: Mud Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Brief Bio: Vanek was born in the European Union. His parents died shortly after he died, leaving him a fortune of a billion British pounds. When he turned 18, he inherited the fortune. He bought a Bugatti Veyron which he has to this day and which he sleeps in. He drove off into wherever we're going to start. He's a freelancer, but powerful if you can get him as an ally. And is wanted by whoever enforces the law because of many speeding violations. (I mean, if you have the fastest production car in the world, police can't catch up to you can they?)
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 17:16
Uh... Vanek Drury Brieres, sorry to say this but your character is unacceptable. I know I said people can do whatever, but within reason. There's no supernatural element within this rp, sadly to say. I do appreciate your willingness to be a part of this rp but please change up your character a bit, thanks.
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-08-2007, 17:18
Darn it.

EDIT: Well, what is superpowerific up there?
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 17:20
Darn it.

EDIT: Well, what is superpowerific up there?

What do you mean?
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 17:21
It's not clear what qualifies a 'fragmented market' in JG. My guess is that it means that its kind of like it appears to be today. Many ethnic groups vying for control, sometimes violently with very little to no intervention from the USA or any of the 'Socialist' countries.
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-08-2007, 17:23
Um, what I mean is what if vampires were just like humans except they just simply drank blood? Would that be OK?
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 17:30
Um, what I mean is what if vampires were just like humans except they just simply drank blood? Would that be OK?

Sorry, no dice. How about some gothic guy instead who's into the occult?
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-08-2007, 17:36
OK, fine, I'll edit the char form.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 17:40
OK, fine, I'll edit the char form.

Thank you, sorry for the inconvenience.
New Brittonia
21-08-2007, 17:42
It's not clear what qualifies a 'fragmented market' in JG. My guess is that it means that its kind of like it appears to be today. Many ethnic groups vying for control, sometimes violently with very little to no intervention from the USA or any of the 'Socialist' countries.

Suppose I can be a spy from Africa, trying to create more Police/NRA tension so the US can become weaker.
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-08-2007, 17:43
It's OK. As long as my guy lives in a car :) it's OK.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 17:45
It's OK. As long as my guy lives in a car :) it's OK.

Sure, he can live out of a car. I have no problems with that.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 17:57
Alright, let's tackle the topic of sub-threads. ANy ideas for sub-threads, what they will be about and possible titles? I can't think of any at the moment.
Vanek Drury Brieres
21-08-2007, 18:01
One could be like a prophecy where (insert # of chars here) people are destined to save the world. The first thread could be getting all of the characters together, and the prophecy would like describe them..

Just a thought.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 18:06
Maybe (if someone decides to be the NRA) there could be some sort of PMC showdown over some big issue (that someone can make up later). That would probably lead to a lot of contreversy with two Private Militaries stomping around fighting over stuff in either a broken-market state or in The US-Controlled areas. Who knows, maybe even Europe could get involved.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 18:07
How about these:

The Board Room: Where companies and firms do what they do, making deals, backstabbing, marketing to the mindless masses, and whatever deals with business.

American Society: More character-based where the players can interact and develope their stories and plots.

The World Market: International relations and possible wars.

Security for Hire: Where the Security firms reside.

These are just some of my ideas.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 18:08
How about these:

The Board Room: Where companies and firms do what they do, making deals, backstabbing, marketing to the mindless masses, and whatever deals with business.

American Society: More character-based where the players can interact and develope their stories and plots.

The World Market: International relations and possible wars.

Security for Hire: Where the Security firms reside.

These are just some of my ideas.

Oh, now I see what you meant. I like your selection since it pretty much covers it all.
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 18:10
I think we ought to run any 'missions' given to a character (for example to an infiltrator) on American Society, and post the mission details themselves in their respective sub-forum. In the case of Government orders, well, my working idea would be to use the TG system on our nations' respective pages, to maintain government security.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 18:14
I'm still open to ideas concerning the sub-threads
New Brittonia
21-08-2007, 18:20
The World market: is that for national RP?
Shenyang
21-08-2007, 18:21
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Candistan
21-08-2007, 18:21
The only other thing I can think of is maybe a "News Channel" thread where someone can do a media overview of the outcomes of some missions and other things from the other threads.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 18:23
The World market: is that for national RP?

International relations with non-"American" territories and the US as well as foreign companie vying for control.
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 18:41
There's plenty of sub-plots as I can already tell. Let's hammer out a solid plot, seeing how we have this continuous flowing plot settled, something that will connect all the threads and other plots into one unified storyline.
New Brittonia
21-08-2007, 18:51
So can I be someone from Africa, trying to increase NRA/Police hostilities, or will that not be in the plot?
Kulikovia
21-08-2007, 18:54
Yes, you can be from Africa. I'm not sure what "The Plot" will be. All I have are a collection of independent storylines with certain intersecting points/
Shenyang
22-08-2007, 03:09
Well, we can use a build-up to another inter-corporate war.

In the book it all spirals from Nike having a psychotic VP of Marketing (Guerrilla Sales Department), who decides that it would be better if the almost non-existant restictions on business were removed, and US-A would make a lot more money (meaning: he'd make more money) if there was no competition.

If you want, you could probably do something along those lines.

Or, we could have one of the companies, say CDS, take violent action to force the European companies out of US territory, and let things go from there.

There's a lot of possibilities, its just that you've got to really reach to find 'em half the time.
Vanek Drury Brieres
22-08-2007, 13:28
Yes, that's a good idea. We could start along the lines of the book, but I would like to see an European-American showdown. That would really terrorize my character though.
Shenyang
22-08-2007, 16:02
well, all european compnies are government-controlled, supposedly, so violent action against one could lead to an all out war. Just remember, the entire military has been essentially disbanded, and thusly, the US would be relying on the corporations to deal with any war.
Vanek Drury Brieres
22-08-2007, 16:42
The plot thickens, *strokes beard, then realizes it isn't there*
Shenyang
22-08-2007, 16:48
Yes... indeed.

*strokes beard then realizes I need to shave*
Kulikovia
22-08-2007, 18:52
Okay, that all sounds good. I'd like people to post their character templates for the rp, you can have more than one if desired.

The Plot: A corporation seeks to eliminate the government all together as well as expanding into Europe and China. This sets off a chain of events where these non-American companies attempt to block this action by any means needed. Meanwhile, a group of anarchists begin a wave of terror in an attempt to break apart a major local corporation and send a message to the country.

It's pretty complicated. That's the idea I have, still open to suggestions.
Kulikovia
22-08-2007, 19:26
Are there anymore interested people? There's still plenty of slots open for interested rpers who want to dwell into the world of Jennifer Government.
Shenyang
22-08-2007, 19:53
I've got a friend who'll be acting as my character's partner, since the government agents don't seem to act without a partner except in extreme cases.
Vanek Drury Brieres
23-08-2007, 13:41
I could put up a second person.

And just out of curiosity, which company will that be? And what are we supposed to do?
Kulikovia
23-08-2007, 15:23
There has to be someone who wants to rp as a corporation. On what kind of corporation, I don't know.
Kulikovia
24-08-2007, 12:34
Anyone else want to sign-up?
Kulikovia
24-08-2007, 12:43
I'm going to start one of the threads, the character rp one.