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****THIS RP IS NOW CLOSED AND IC IS OPEN!!!****

Hello, all. I'm pretty new to RPing but I do find the lack of a good Europe-specific RP to be slightly annoying, so I'm starting my own.

I would greatly appreciate anyone else interested in this. Though it is 19th century Europe timeframe, we're throwing out some of the real history for our own.

I'll start a claim map very soon, but I'll go ahead and announce my claim. Present-day Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, and Montenegro.

Remember, its only Europe so no overseas colonies.

EDIT:

Here's the latest map.

http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=croatiabosniaseuropeyp4.png




A word about military:

I will use a suggestion posted earlier. Military should be about 1 or 2 % of your whole population, unless you're really small or unpopulated like me in which we could work something out that is fair.


FACTBOOKS:

Hey everybody!!! I need to get some factbooks. I'll link them all to this post. That way we can all see everyone's at once.




http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535919 Scotland Factbook- New Brittonia
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12975770&posted=1#post12975770 Neu Imperial Deutschland Factbook-Antigonal
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535952 United Kingdom of England and Ireland factbook-Kirav
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535959 Netherlands factbook- Bredford
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535963 Croat-Bosnian Federation- Croatia-Bosnia



So, I am still missing Russia-Honako's Factbook. Please post it soon!!
Need Greece-the Sapphire Isle factbook.

We're going to start the RP without your two's factbooks. BUt if you would please get them up soon, you can fully participate in the RP.

OCC: Intrested, but your first post looks so sloppy till i think no one will join it. Sign up pages should be more organized. ;)

Quite, no organization or rules or anything.
How can we wreak chaotic carnage upon or foes if theres no order to begin with? ;)

Guess that someone wants to join.
I want to RP Scotland

looks so sloppy till i think no one will join it. Sign up pages should be more organized

To hell with neatness. I'll join. It sounds very interesting.

I'll join, we can organize things as people sign up. I have seen plenty of RP interest threads similar to this. I'll be Spain.

well, that took all of five seconds, huh?

And I know its crap, I'll get rules and that stuff up soon enough.

Here's the claim map just showing me so far. All who said they wanted to go---what nations do you wish to RP as?

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/821/croatiabosniaseuropeky2.th.png (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=croatiabosniaseuropeky2.png)

Very interesting, I love the industrial age. I wish to lay claim to Germany, but under her 1871 borders, and Luxembourg.

Germany in 1871: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://home.versatel.nl/gerardvonhebel/germany1871.GIF&imgrefurl=http://home.versatel.nl/gerardvonhebel/g1871.htm&h=476&w=667&sz=18&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=gfTvqK9aJvXk8M:&tbnh=98&tbnw=138&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgermany%2B1871%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Thanks, No Taxes. You were also the only one to notice my claim in that 1650 world RP thread, so another thanks.

If we're making claims already, I'm going with Britain. Always wanted to slip into VIctoria's shoes.

If we're making claims already, I'm going with Britain. Always wanted to slip into VIctoria's shoes.

But I took scotland

Could we include a bit of the North African coast and Near East in our map? So we can have some colonies and include the whole Med.

yeah, that sounds good.

I made a preliminary European map (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2562/europeblankmap2mp9.png). Though Germany's borders are a little rough, since they were hand drawn. I'll look for a map that includes the whole meditteranean and near east.

Get some rules to the Rp please... ;)

But I took scotland

No worries. Although an Act of Union would be interesting, lol.

Can we set up colonies in unclaimed territory, that is, during the actual rp?

Caught my eye ...but...not really interested untill more details are posted.

So I think we should determine several things.

-What year will this start in more specifically? 1830,1850,1870...

-Will we use 19th century populations? If so, I know a site that has them.

-Will we use 19th century tech and if so do we get the tech that our country had at that time?

OK, techncally Ireland became independent in 1922, does Kirav get Ireland also?

yeah. I think North Africa and the Mid-East will stay off limits during set-up and then once the rp begins we can all go land-grabbing.

Good map there, No Taxes, but yes, do be on a look out for on with a little bit more on it.

If anyone has any other ideas about the rp itself, please speak up, as I said, I am pretty new to this and welcome all the help I can get.



***Everyone will eventually need a factbook***

Yes, I think he can have Ireland. No Taxes, we'll start 1820, use the populations at that time, as well as the techs of the time.

Could we change the map so it focuses more on the south (so it encompasses Anatolia, more of the North African coast, and a small bit of Syria. I know you want this to be European but many of the nations of the Near East and Africa were also European nations during this time (ie the Ottoman Empire). I don't think anyone's interested in Iceland or the sea above Scandinavia.

Could we change the map so it focuses more on the south (so it encompasses Anatolia, more of the North African coast, and a small bit of Syria. I know you want this to be European but many of the nations of the Near East and Africa were also European nations during this time (ie the Ottoman Empire). I don't think anyone's interested in Iceland or the sea above Scandinavia.

That is a normal map from Wikipedia

Could we change the map so it focuses more on the south (so it encompasses Anatolia, more of the North African coast, and a small bit of Syria. I know you want this to be European but many of the nations of the Near East and Africa were also European nations during this time (ie the Ottoman Empire). I don't think anyone's interested in Iceland or the sea above Scandinavia.
It's hard finding a good blank map that encompasses all of that. I can take a world map and cut out that area but then the map either has to be really small or the resolution sucks.

Edit: Map update (http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3871/europeblankmap2up8.png)

If you could edit out the city names and maybe enlarge it a bit, this would be a good one.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pways.com/common/images/cruises/regional/map_europe.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.pways.com/cruises/regional/europe/&h=365&w=353&sz=27&hl=en&start=5&um=1&tbnid=5rf6O30UzoKsGM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3Deurope%2Bmediterranean%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX

And as far as tech goes: rifles with bayonets, agricultural revolution, and, as time passes, the industrial revolution, steam engine, and railroads?

I am making my factbook now

good Brittonia.


Yes to all, Antigonal.

Is it too late/too much to claim Tyrol (that little piece of Austrian land between Germany, Italy and Switzerland). It is a German speaking region.

I'm starting my factbook. How close must we stick to history? I mean, populations and such, definately, but what about leaders and subdivisions?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535919


factbook

Are we allowed to only claim 1 country?

If only one, then I want France

@C-B: Were you on NS before?

it has to be resonable, Zoingo.

Tyrol is fine, Antigonal.

don't have to use rl leaders and subdivisions, no.

And yes, I was on NS before as Kanshan.

@ No Taxes and Zoingo:

What part of Texas?

-snip-

are there any new people on this forum?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12975770&posted=1#post12975770

Here's my factbook. It's a work in progess, I still need to fill out my economic post (i.e. imports/exports and industry) and my military (how large it is, where my garrisons are, ect.). The third post I made on foriegn policy and diplomacy is reserved for announcing wars, alliances, and what not.

it has to be resonable, Zoingo
What part of Texas?

ic: Okay then, France (i also wanted switzerland, because Antigonal got half of Poland and Luxembourg)

occ: Give you a couple of hints: Near the coast. In a town that has an overstretched market, horrible school districts, clueless city councel members, and of course, has the motto "Sparkling city by the bay, just dont drink the water :)."

Houston?

I'm from near Dallas.

So I think we should determine several things.

-What year will this start in more specifically? 1830,1850,1870...

-Will we use 19th century populations? If so, I know a site that has them.

-Will we use 19th century tech and if so do we get the tech that our country had at that time?

what's the site?

Houston?

I'm from near Dallas.

Not quite, they have good drinking water and okay council members, go a little further down the coast.

Also, our city made national news for our contaminated water.

Corpus?


I'm sorry, I really don't know from that.

what's the site?

populstat.info
South Padre Island

C-B, is a population of just under 20 million reasonable for 1820 Germany, Luxembourg, Tyrol and half of Poland combined? Not enough? Too much? I'm bad at this stuff. For a moment I thought too few for an early industrial nation, then too many given the size of my territory.

Speaking of industry, how will we distinguish how industralized our nations are and what are the benefits?

EDIT: I tried that site but it only had records of Germany's population from the 1930s onwards.

Hm..I'm thinking that's probably a little too much.

In 1811 Russia's pop. was 44.5 million. Now Russia is a much larger nation than Germany but about 90% of their pop. was concentrated in about the same area as two Germanys. So I thought ten years later, Germany is much more industralized than Russia but much smaller so a little less than half of Russia's pop. was appropriate.

It had it, but it is hard because Germany was not unified until 1871

Im REALLY tempted to join, but Earth's I join have a tendancy to DIE, so Im somewhat conflicted. Join, put effort into factbook, watch as nobody posts has been the typical pattern for some time now.

Also, Antigonal, remember that Populstat and the like only give the population of the MODERN state. You've got the population of RUSSIA alone in 1811, the population of the empire as a whole was roughly twice that if I remember, mostly in the Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

In 1811 Russia's pop. was 44.5 million. Now Russia is a much larger nation than Germany but about 90% of their pop. was concentrated in about the same area as two Germanys. So I thought ten years later, Germany is much more industralized than Russia but much smaller so a little less than half of Russia's pop. was appropriate.
According to populstat, in 1820 Germany's pop was 26 million and with half of Poland, Luxembourg and Tryol I would round that out to 30 million.

C-B, I am from Austin.

I had a feeling my math was a bit off. Thanks No Taxes, I'll fix that mistake.

EDIT: OK, my net pop. is now 30,155,000.

Corpus?


I'm sorry, I really don't know from that.

DING! DING! DING! we have a winner, yes im from Corpus. :)

ummm.. may i join as Italy?

that's fine Bredford.


Antigonal, sorry about that. I'm not really an expert on 1820 Germany, you know?


They who found the map, could you please update it for me?

that's fine Bredford.


Antigonal, sorry about that. I'm not really an expert on 1820 Germany, you know?


They who found the map, could you please update it for me?

my economy army and population are same as real world? and should i make a factbook? lol.

On populus, it says my pop is about 30 million, is that about right?

Bedford: Your population and such in the 1800's, populus.info was a good source

yeah that sounds right.



EDIT: can someone please tell me how to read the numbers on the site.

yeah that sounds right.



EDIT: can someone please tell me how to read the numbers on the site.
Add two zeros to every number. And always click on population figures for the whole country, not cities or administrative divisions.

Map Update (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3448/europeblankmap2ch2.png)

is this populus.info a site? i can't find it then.

is this populus.info a site? i can't find it then.
It's populstat.info

Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535952)

I'm still shoveling up some data, and working on an altered Union Jack.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Umm.. i figured out that Italy didn't exist in 1820. so i take Netherlands.

as Netherlands i should have Belgium and Luxemburg also.

I see that Germany owns Luxemburg. then never mind about it.

Add two zeros to every number. And always click on population figures for the whole country, not cities or administrative divisions.

Map Update (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3448/europeblankmap2ch2.png)

Hey could you add Tyrol (that sliver of Austrian land between Italy, Switzerland, and Germany) to my empire? C-B said it was fine.

Also, weren't we gonna use that map I found of Europe, North Africa, the Near East? If not that's cool.

is my claim on Netherlands approved?

its fine if you want but it really doesn't matter that Italy didn't exist in 1820 because we're not going to be using every last historical detail.


Thanks for the help, No Taxes.

Factbook - http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535959

umm.. i believe i can create my military.. but what with Economic information? how i do that?

Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535963

i do get Belgium too right? (it was part of Netherlands in this part, and it helps me get equal to other big nations, as Belgium was stronger then Netherlands economically that time, though they were united.)

yeah you do. And probably some first dibs on the colonies.

yeah you do. And probably some first dibs on the colonies.

Dibs? whats that?

by the way, i have found great thing for economic information-

www.ggdc.net/maddison/other_books/HS-8_2003.pdf

contains GDPs and all the basics for economies in 1820.

Dibs? whats that?

by the way, i have found great thing for economic information-

www.ggdc.net/maddison/other_books/HS-8_2003.pdf

contains GDPs and all the basics for economies in 1820.

Dibs... like priority.

Do you have to get precise economic figures? Germany didn't exist in 1820 so it's prooving dificult.

Dibs... like priority.

Do you have to get precise economic figures? Germany didn't exist in 1820 so it's prooving dificult.

i guess its refers to the entire region GDP. i would prefer as much as accurate economic figures, but its up to Croat-Bosnia.

try this page for economic data

http://www.historicalstatistics.org/

try this page for economic data

http://www.historicalstatistics.org/

Thanks but the closest date to 1820 they had was Prussia (not Germany, half of Poland, Luxembourg, and Tyrol) in 1806 and I couldn't understand a word of it.

that second site is prolly great for you bigger countries, but nothing for us Balkan nations.

And I would like economic figures to be very accurate, so the closer to rl, the better.

Use this one then - www.ggdc.net/maddison/other_books/HS-8_2003.pdf

i would recommend to use armies of only %1 or %2 of the population... unless in nations like Croat-Bosnia federation where a %1 army is nothing. that way, it would be more realistic, as economies couldn't support then what economies would be supporting now..

C-B could you attach an updated map to the first post of this thread and point out which colors are which nations. In the most recent map I still don't own Tyrol and Bredford is still Italy.

Use this one then - www.ggdc.net/maddison/other_books/HS-8_2003.pdf

i would recommend to use armies of only %1 or %2 of the population... unless in nations like Croat-Bosnia federation where a %1 army is nothing. that way, it would be more realistic, as economies couldn't support then what economies would be supporting now..

What if certain nations wanted make military service compulsory? But I do like that rule.

I'm sorry to be such a burden but I still cannot, for the life of me, find a site that gives an accurate account of Germany's economic situation in 1820. Let alone one that also covers half of Poland, Luxembourg, Tyrol as well. The last site you attached wouldn't open for me.

wait a sec, and i would give you important economic information.

wait a sec, and i would give you important economic information.

Thanks man.

shit, i was unable to find economic information about westren half of Poland, and not Tyrol and Luxemburg.

Anyway, economic information for Germany itself-

GDP- 26,819,000,000 Dollars.

GDP growth- %2.

Share of the world's GDP- %3.9

GDP per capita- $1077 (i guess its because low-pay German workers then.)

GDP per capita growth- %1.08

Population growth- %0.91

Thanks, it's still good. I think I know away to find how much I get Western half of Poland. Try and find Poland's stats and then divide it by about half. Land wise, I control the western half of Poland, which was the more industrialized half if I'm not mistaken, so at first glance, I thought I should get more money. But then I realized I don't control many of the major Polish cities (including Warsaw), so it balances out again... by my crazy logic.

OOC: HOw do you downsize images in forum code? (display area, not file size)

I'm trying to shrink the Hiberno-British flag I found on Wikipædia, to make it fit the board alignment.

Thanks, it's still good. I think I know away to find how much I get Western half of Poland. Try and find Poland's stats and then divide it by about half. Land wise, I control the western half of Poland, which was the more industrialized half if I'm not mistaken, so at first glance, I thought I should get more money. But then I realized I don't control many of the major Polish cities (including Warsaw), so it balances out again... by my crazy logic.

well, it dosen't include a Poland stats, but rather the entire eastren-europe together stats.i will try to find something for you none-the-less.

well, it dosen't include a Poland stats, but rather the entire eastren-europe together stats.i will try to find something for you none-the-less.

Wow, thanks a lot. Luxembourg is negligble I suppose and, if it has just Austria on that site, you can maybe divide its figures by about a quarter. Tyrol accounts for roughly a third of modern Austria's territory but was a rather deselet and pre-industrial region during this time period. So a quarter makes sense, maybe a fifth.

May I be Russia? European Russia at least, though it would make more sense with the whole country. Also, are we using a present day map or one from the time period (as with Russia I'd get all Imperial Russia's lands as well...) - there is a map here of Europe in 1820 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nbi.tu-berlin.de/NBIHi3.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.nbi.tu-berlin.de/Historicalmaps.htm&h=512&w=479&sz=90&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=5akXlwa47b4aOM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1820%2BEuropean%2BMap%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN)

ok.. i managed to do quick check about Polish industry in 1820..

and it appears that most of the industry was in Russian part. German part was agricultural with heavy taxation.

(Russian part wasn't very developed either, but it maked a lot of rubles exporting wool to china..)

as for Tyrol, i know there is Austrian stats on the site. just a sec.

Edit-

Tyrol Economic Information-

(its quarter of all Austrian stats)

GDP- 1,025,000,000 Dollars

GDP Growth- %0.36

(GDP per capita are as Austrian stats, because wage of job is not needed to be cutted in four.)

GDP per capita- $1218

GDP per capita growth- %0.85

Okay, so if you come across any stats on Poland at anytime, send um to me and I can just divide it by a third as it seems most of the industry was in Russian Poland during that time.

May I be Russia? European Russia at least, though it would make more sense with the whole country. Also, are we using a present day map or one from the time period (as with Russia I'd get all Imperial Russia's lands as well...) - there is a map here of Europe in 1820 (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nbi.tu-berlin.de/NBIHi3.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.nbi.tu-berlin.de/Historicalmaps.htm&h=512&w=479&sz=90&hl=en&start=8&um=1&tbnid=5akXlwa47b4aOM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1820%2BEuropean%2BMap%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DN)

I'm not the host here but that seems like a bit much. We're not playing with real nations, I mean Germany wasn't even unified in 1820 and it certainly did not control Tyrol and Luxembourg. So you don't have to take the actual borders of a nation.

I'm not the host here but that seems like a bit much. We're not playing with real nations, I mean Germany wasn't even unified in 1820 and it certainly did not control Tyrol and Luxembourg. So you don't have to take the actual borders of a nation.

Perhaps I was being a bit too greedy with asking for all Imperial Russia's stuff, but I still desire European Russia (basically the Russia that is visibly on most European maps).

just European Russia, Honako.

You'll need a factbook.

ok.. i managed to do quick check about Polish industry in 1820..

and it appears that most of the industry was in Russian part. German part was agricultural with heavy taxation.

(Russian part wasn't very developed either, but it maked a lot of rubles exporting wool to china..)

as for Tyrol, i know there is Austrian stats on the site. just a sec.

Edit-

Tyrol Economic Information-

(its quarter of all Austrian stats)

GDP- 1,025,000,000 Dollars

GDP Growth- %0.36

(GDP per capita are as Austrian stats, because wage of job is not needed to be cutted in four.)

GDP per capita- $1218

GDP per capita growth- %0.85

Alright, thanks again for getting this info.

Anything for scotland?

Anything for scotland?

your talking to me?

If anyone finds economic statistics for Poland in 1820 could you please pass them along to me, I still need to figure out how much money I'm making off of Poland.

your talking to me?

yeah.

Bredford, if you wouldn't mind, could you give me the site or find out info yourself about the population and economy etc. of Imperial Russia at this period. Once I get that I'll cut it down a bit. Thanks.

Hey, quick off-topic question, how do I embed a URL in text so it doesn't look like an insane jumble of numbers and letters? Thanks.

1. Where's the map so I can see what's still open.

and

2. Would it be at all possible to be the Ottomans (if it isn't claimed already)? After all, a little piece of 'em is in Europe :p

1. Where's the map so I can see what's still open.

and

2. Would it be at all possible to be the Ottomans (if it isn't claimed already)? After all, a little piece of 'em is in Europe :p

Sorry to bring this up in another thread, but anyway, I was what happened to Earth: Survival? Another case of going inactive, or something else...?

Sorry to bring this up in another thread, but anyway, I was what happened to Earth: Survival? Another case of going inactive, or something else...?

DP kind of ruined it by declaring it dead, then it went on a downward spiral due to inactivity from the new people who were vital in the RPs going on, so yes, I'd say its gone. I personally am done with full earth RPs for a long time and decided to stick to good character RPs and stuff like this.

Here C-B, Bredford, New Brittania, and No Taxes: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12977598#post12977598

It's an 1860 world. I'm not trying to steal your 19th century idea though C-B, I tweaked some stuff and put it on a world map. You're all welcome because I know you're generally active on this forum.

OK... I posted that thing about military and the claim map in the first post. Hopefully we can get some more people to join soon.

Since my country is so unpopulated, what does anyone think my military numbers should be? My total population is around 3.525 million.

DP kind of ruined it by declaring it dead, then it went on a downward spiral due to inactivity from the new people who were vital in the RPs going on, so yes, I'd say its gone. I personally am done with full earth RPs for a long time and decided to stick to good character RPs and stuff like this.

Canis, I have divided US in my sig, so people (and I) can go to it, you are the vice mod, so please make some IC posts when you are on. Me and VDB have the entire IC thread. Make some IC posts, oh, and check your tgs, I sent you one several hours ago.

OK... I posted that thing about military and the claim map in the first post. Hopefully we can get some more people to join soon.

Since my country is so unpopulated, what does anyone think my military numbers should be? My total population is around 3.525 million.

At max, active trops should be 5% of your population. . . the rest is up to you

What if I made military service compulsory for men 17 - 26? Back in 1820 the average lifespan was probably 60 to 70. So if I draft all men 17 - 26 in the nation, that has to be at least 10%, maybe more. So... what, over three million?

OK... I posted that thing about military and the claim map in the first post. Hopefully we can get some more people to join soon.

Since my country is so unpopulated, what does anyone think my military numbers should be? My total population is around 3.525 million.

When ever I have played on threads like this, and a player grabs a low population region, they usualy allow the player to double or triple his populatuon, sometimes they even allow to quadruple the population. They do that to make it a little more fair.

When ever I have played on threads like this, and a player grabs a low population region, they usualy allow the player to double or triple his populatuon, sometimes they even allow to quadruple the population. They do that to make it a little more fair.

Yeah but we also have to keep it realistic.

i basically think that 5% of the population in the army are only in war, and only for short time. economies couldn't hold that for long.

Yeah but we also have to keep it realistic.

When is IC?

Soon. I want like one or two more people, possibly.

OK, could I please have Tyrol now?

oh, right. sorry.

its fixed now, anti.

oh, right. sorry.

its fixed now, anti.

Thanks.

EDIT: Could we compile our factbooks in one place? Also does anyone have an estimates of what Western Poland's economic stats were in 1820. If you can find any stats on 1820 Poland in general, just divide them by 3 and that should account for my Polish possesions. I really need to get figured out before I can start.

Okay my total pop. is 30,155,000 and 2% of that is 603,100. Is there anyway I can make my military service compulsory and get more like 10% of my total population?

EDIT: Whoever is playing Russia, I can help you with your pop. Russia had 44.5 million people living in her borders in the census of 1811-1812. So just figure eight years later, maybe 300,000 - 500,000 more people.

Could I play as Greece please? only one issue- the Greek war of independence from the Ottoman Empire was actually from 1921-29, so could I please use Greece as an independent country, though its 9 yrs too early

I assume you mean 1821-29, but yes its fine by me. Most of the history is being thrown out anyway.

Just start working on your factbook, ok?

I claimed the Ottoman Empire a while back, so is it accepted or not?

Okay my total pop. is 30,155,000 and 2% of that is 603,100. Is there anyway I can make my military service compulsory and get more like 10% of my total population?

EDIT: Whoever is playing Russia, I can help you with your pop. Russia had 44.5 million people living in her borders in the census of 1811-1812. So just figure eight years later, maybe 300,000 - 500,000 more people.

I'll post my factbook soon. And thanks for the info.

Okay my total pop. is 30,155,000 and 2% of that is 603,100. Is there anyway I can make my military service compulsory and get more like 10% of my total population?


those restrictions are less of laws and more of economic side.

1. food. %10 of your population means those guys will not grow food, and that they will require more food (soldiers eat more, and so are their animals.)

2. their family dosen't get food.

so far the food production\consumption has already increased by like %20-25 for the consumption side.

3. equipment. that costs much.

4. army sitting inside a town or near farms will probaly take food and cause unrest (even its from their own nation.).

5. %10 of the males in your nation in the military is severe damage to your economy, especially because you take the healthy males.

those restrictions are less of laws and more of economic side.

1. food. %10 of your population means those guys will not grow food, and that they will require more food (soldiers eat more, and so are their animals.)

2. their family dosen't get food.

so far the food production\consumption has already increased by like %20-25 for the consumption side.

3. equipment. that costs much.

4. army sitting inside a town or near farms will probaly take food and cause unrest (even its from their own nation.).

5. %10 of the males in your nation in the military is severe damage to your economy, especially because you take the healthy males.

True, true. Maybe I'll just do 7%.

Once Honako gets his factbook up, I believe we can attempt to begin the IC thread(s).

Candistan, if you don't mind have just modern Turkey and Bulgaria than its fine with me.

I really need to figure out Western Poland's economic stats before I can start. Can someone just make something up? I'm terrible at this stuff.

I really need to figure out Western Poland's economic stats before I can start. Can someone just make something up? I'm terrible at this stuff.

Do we really need specific economic stats?

I updated the factbook, so do I get my IP now?

Can i join please??can i have italy?with Sardina and Sicily, if its not to much asking

sounds fine. Get up a factbook, please.

well, i've got to work on it but here it is: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536177

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536177

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536178

I dont understand why i cant post my factbook in this thread

when do we start IC?

i cant post the link (it says something about having to be chequed by a moderator and it will take some time). Well, look, its on the 6th page of international incidents, a thread that says "United States of italy".sorry for the mess-up

i cant post the link (it says something about having to be chequed by a moderator and it will take some time). Well, look, its on the 6th page of international incidents, a thread that says "United States of italy".sorry for the mess-up

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536178
here it is

Since youve made ten posts, you should be out of the mod queue at this point.

EDIT:
bargl, I keep mixing this and the other 19th century RP topic up >_>

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=536178
here it is

Thanks

Thanks

yeah. . . . this is a good way for newbies to learn to RP around here

Shall we start IC then?

Shall we start IC then?

sure

I believe we can. This signup is now closed. IC is open!

I believe we can. This signup is now closed. IC is open!

start up the IC thread