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You Know the Drill... It all goes here... No more OOC Nonsense will be tolerated in the Main Thread...

A New Thread will be started for the actual Invasion.

Map of Mediterranica (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3691/mediterranicamap11lh6.png)(BL's home region, just to avoid any confusion)

Olmedreca;12966368']Map of Mediterranica (http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3691/mediterranicamap11lh6.png)(BL's home region, just to avoid any confusion)

I could have sworn that I have a Colony in Mediterannica...

Ah well, I'd love to get involved but I have no idea of the whole history of the conflict nor as to who's side I'd get involved in.

I could have sworn that I have a Colony in Mediterannica...

Ah well, I'd love to get involved but I have no idea of the whole history of the conflict nor as to who's side I'd get involved in.

Quite possibly you had once, region and regional map has seen some cleaning.

Vontanas will be RP'ing the international Hegemony forces, which includes the entirety of my military with the exception of the Royal Guard. I will be RP'ing the Abrahamic League and whatever Royal Guard units i decide to send.

With seemingly everyone under the sun trying to back BL here, would anyone take offense to me voicing (and perhaps backing) support for the Dark Side (AKA Kraven)? If for nothing else then to spice up things and give multiple options...

With seemingly everyone under the sun trying to back BL here, would anyone take offense to me voicing (and perhaps backing) support for the Dark Side (AKA Kraven)? If for nothing else then to spice up things and give multiple options...

Meh, it'll liven things up a bit, I should think.

With seemingly everyone under the sun trying to back BL here, would anyone take offense to me voicing (and perhaps backing) support for the Dark Side (AKA Kraven)? If for nothing else then to spice up things and give multiple options...

after blender and nukes they getting ones desserts

With seemingly everyone under the sun trying to back BL here, would anyone take offense to me voicing (and perhaps backing) support for the Dark Side (AKA Kraven)? If for nothing else then to spice up things and give multiple options...

Only if I get my museum addition...

I could have sworn that I have a Colony in Mediterannica...

Ah well, I'd love to get involved but I have no idea of the whole history of the conflict nor as to who's side I'd get involved in.

you had lands there at one time but they have been incorperated into my lands over time and various revisions.

*waves to Kraven*
Ohi, still around? I see youve made a name for yourself ;)

Only if I get my museum addition...

i thought the museum was only for dictators...

Well, considering that BL seems to have a cycle, (quietly conquer, humanitarian crises, invasion, repeat) I wouldn't be surprised if Azzopardi ended up doing something... regretable. Or maybe he just wants Davidson. I don't really care.

Since the battle will be occuring in Kensington, I figured I might as well post my factbook's entry on the city (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12842943&postcount=19) here; I highly recommend that everyone looks at the map for the area. The largest and most prominent part of the city is the island on with bouroughs 15, 16, 17, and 18 on it. All of the major government buildings are in 18 (Parliament, Supreme Court, Consular residence, etc), whilst the Central Business District tends to centre around 15.

Everyone assumes the battle is going to be at Kensington. It could be anywhere though, and seeing how much defences are put into a single small area, they'll likely start somewhere else. Which is why I'm having my forces protect other beach fronts. Without a doubt though, they will attack Kensington, though they may try to hit other areas to get some of the people there to spread themselves out more.

Well, if I read Kraven's OP correctly, he intended to simply attack Kensington and seize all the government officials. I would assume that he would continue along that course, considering, ICly, it is unknown that the government has gone into hiding.

I think that would had happened if you would had allowed him to your nation. But now then he needs to invade openly he firstly needs to wipe out whatever fleets and stuff what are thrown on his way, so invasion of mainland BL is probably not going to happen immediately. I guess currently Kraven's fleet has not even entered to Mediterranica yet.

So...since I see no opposition here, I'm gonna see what I can do...

BL: Kravenization means that your nation becomes a slave state.

I realized that...but what does being Kraven's slave state entail?

I realized that...but what does being Kraven's slave state entail?

you get the famous capitial police opprssing you population.

I realized that...but what does being Kraven's slave state entail?

Bye-bye nation.

Basically, your land gets stripped of anything-literally-that can progress the Kraven war machine. By it's end, it won't be worth a resettlement program.

Kraven, how many troops are heading towards BL at the moment?

Currently, 1 Kraven Battalion of Wolf Brigade Special Forces, 600,000 Fighting Units, but I'll be deploying the 2nd Battlefleet from Yeltsmin to Assist, bolstering the forces up to about 1,000,000 Fighting Units...

I'd take his deal. You can pick them off from death row, captured terrorists, drug addicts, beggars, whatever. I'll even chip in if you take the deal.

Tough call. Do I fight Kraven or be called NS France? Hmm...

Well as i see it you might be screwed either way. Now that you have given up land to him whats stopping him from coming back and demanding more land or they invade you. And thus is a cycle. he threatens to invade, you give him land and repeat.

Hm. Well given Kraven's latest post, I'm wondering if BL might put the captured populaces of all those little nations he fought to good use? ;)

I think he'll stick to his word. Although, I've never actually seen any diplomacy with him, so I might be wrong. However, I think it's better to cede some territory then to fight a long and expensive war you might not win on your nation proper.

If people re-read my post, you'll notice that i mentioned my Scientists will be screening the Women sent for The CP Programme, Drug addicts ETC will be rejected, Executed and sent back to the nation... we will expect only the finest specimens!

I think he'll stick to his word. Although, I've never actually seen any diplomacy with him, so I might be wrong. However, I think it's better to cede some territory then to fight a long and expensive war you might not win on your nation proper.

Kraven Diplomacy:


It has been said that Kraven Diplomacy is nothing more than Thinly Veiled Threats and Intimidation

Kravens above OOC post means trouble for BL me thinks. Any prisoners from other nations might be rejected because BL's tendency for human rights abuse. Kraven wants intact women, not beaten, drug addicted etc women :P

I'm going to be taking his deal, using the colonial population in Indonesia (119,091,241 women). I assume that Kraven honours his diplomatic agreements, though.

I'm going to be taking his deal, using the colonial population in Indonesia (119,091,241 women). I assume that Kraven honours his diplomatic agreements, though.

That is a risk you will have to take...

Its not really "can you gather enough women or not?" because everyone realize that you can. Its more like, "are you ready to be humiliated in front of all world to avoid war?".

Btw, kraven from which direction your fleet is going to enter to Mediterranica(map in second post of this thread)? As region itsselfly is quite big and entrances to sea where mainland BL is are limited it should be easy to see from your movement where you are going to enter.

And will you be coming from the north (where the capital is) or from the south?

Tough call. Do I fight Kraven or be called NS France? Hmm...

You already are. How do I surrendered to AMF in thirty minutes?

I seem to have missed this thread. If I had known it was here, I would have posted instead of sending the following telegram to British Londinium:

"Hello BL. I was just reading the latest posts in the "Supreme State Offers its Support To British Londinium" thread, and it looks like British Londinium is in a very difficult position. I was wondering if you would be welcoming to my entrance into the RP, in support of BL against Kraven.

Considering your nation's founding of E.V.I.L and past reputation, DC would require some additional IC motivation to support BL - do you believe this could be arranged?

Please, let me know what you think. I'll understand perfectly if you would rather that I not be involved. Thanks."

Sorry about the two-headed communications, British Londinium. I missed this thread, but now that I've seen it, I thought it would be better for me to post here instead.

What kind of IC motivation are your looking for?

The Democratic Colonies, as most NS nations are, is in great need of that old standby oil. Maybe even more than oil though, DC also needs basic foodstuffs; wheat, corn, fruit and vegetable crops, meat from livestock and from fisheries. Would British Londinium be willing to part with perhaps untapped oil deposits, or prime fishing areas? Some sort of assurance from the government of BL assuring DC that it is fully reformed from its blender / people sausage days would be good as well - OOC I know that any such assurance isn't worth much and is essentially worthless, but IC, it would be significant just as an additional moral justifier.

The primary motivating factor, IC, would be horror at this talk of "trading" millions of women, but considering British Londinium's past, a little extra something would be needed to push DC to direct action.

Also, on a side note, are you planning for BL to field Tempora Heroica (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=473299) class carriers during this conflict, if there is a conflict?

Well, BL can't give you food, as it needs it badly due to lack of growing space domestically. But petrol, that's easy. My reserves number in the trillions, and that's just within my territorial waters. I have several deposits offshore one of my colonies (Oickoidia) that BL could give you.

And I do intend on fielding the Tempora Heroica class carrier, as it has replaced the majority of the Navy's carriers, save for a few Nimitz-class ones.

You already are. How do I surrendered to AMF in thirty minutes?
From my standpoint, that's not much to be ashamed of. AMF is huge, if anything lasting 30mins against AMF should be considered an achievement.

The fact that BL had eight, large, Sovereign League nations defending him makes it less commendable.

Although, he hates the SL, which is basically disfunct because of the Haven-Gholgoth War. Not only are most of the major combatants to busy to do much, one of the members, Allanea, is on the side of NATO.

Anyways, back to the original point, he may have just done it because he wanted the SL out, and NATO would easily do that.

Well, BL can't give you food, as it needs it badly due to lack of growing space domestically. But petrol, that's easy. My reserves number in the trillions, and that's just within my territorial waters. I have several deposits offshore one of my colonies (Oickoidia) that BL could give you.

Excellent. If BL is willing to transfer some of those oil deposits to DC after the conclusion of the conflict and the government of BL is willing to offer some OOCly worthless but ICly valuable assurances to the DC government that their blendering days are behind them, I will begin IC posting shortly. With your permission, I will simply mention BL's assurances to DC with a few lines from one of my characters in government, with no need to actually go into detail of the exact wording of the assurance.

And I do intend on fielding the Tempora Heroica class carrier, as it has replaced the majority of the Navy's carriers, save for a few Nimitz-class ones.

That will be most interesting for me. I've never actually RPed combat with or read any RPs involving combat with the Tempora Heroica, despite their sales.

Agreed. And, if you'd like, you can say that the deposit is about three billion barrels worth of oil.

Man, when I grow up, I wanna be just like Kraven. Extorting wimminz from other countries, even though theyre anatomically incompatable.
Maybe I'll glue them together and make a throne out of them or something.

Agreed. And, if you'd like, you can say that the deposit is about three billion barrels worth of oil.

That's enough to get DC involved, although I was hoping for something larger. Looking at the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_fields) list of oilfields, I was hoping maybe for something around the size of the East Baghdad Field or the Algerian Hassi Messaoud.

As well, I'm having some trouble finding reference material about The Kraven Corporation and the Capitol Police. I had a look at the NS Wiki, but it didn't mention to much about the Capitol Police - does anyone happen to have a link that can explain what they're about and how they operate? I'm getting the sense that they're jackbooted corporate fascists with good discipline and a penchant for sexual assault, what with the demand for sixty million women and all - is that about right?

I was under the impression that women were needed to serve in the Capitol Police, as it only recruits women.

More like they would be used as breeding stock, mate..If I am mistaken, then please correct me TKC..

I should take good note of the results of this thread. Good Luck BL although it seems your already ICly screwed passed the point of no return. Although there is some good news to come out of this. My nation will take a hint from what happens in British Londinium. To see what happens if it surrenders or is defeated.

Because after all, BL your only getting a diverted portion of Kraven's forces. I on the other hand get to have the prestigious honor of being invaded wholesale by the full might of the Kraven army! Woohoo!

Yeltsmin was only but a taste of what is to come! Nohchichoo will never surrender to the Kraven dogs! Lahilah a Illallah!

More like they would be used as breeding stock, mate..If I am mistaken, then please correct me TKC..

Oh yeah. Your 'lucky girls' are taken to the Kraven birthing facilities. I forgot most of the gruesome details but something to do with a lot of tubes connected to them and simply birthing CP after CP until they aren't useful anymore. Real Life wise I'd say this would be one of the most controversial humanitarian decisions BL has ever decided to undertake. Save blending people of course >.>

Hm. So would a victory on my side invigorate your people or something like that?

That would too. But seeing that TKC is no normal enemy would just spur them on to fight all the harder. See I plan for the Chechen-Kraven War to be a very interesting thread indeed :D

What with all the rumors of what happened to the women and you losing every ounce of national pride. That and keep in mind my souther border used to be shared with Kahanistan (now Doomingsland). So quite a few rumors have pervaded the Chechen sphere of life. Hell the people who lived in Yeltsmin were considered pioneers not just because they were the first of a new colony but because they were just so close to the Kraven mainland.

I was under the impression that women were needed to serve in the Capitol Police, as it only recruits women.

BL this what happen to them
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10113768&postcount=9

BL this what happen to them
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10113768&postcount=9

Damn you, you beat me to it =P

Eww. I thought my blenders were bad - that made me sick to my stomach. And just when I was about to eat dinner.

Damn you, you beat me to it =P
i dig it up for a dark part of my nation time line
Eww. I thought my blenders were bad - that made me sick to my stomach. And just when I was about to eat dinner.

don't ever read it half drunk like i did once those nightmare i had i never want again

Good God, the Kraven are like the Tleilaxu but worse...

Is it possible for one more to join on BL's side?

Hail, Y'all, Will be working on the Invasion thread shortly... All Citizens are ordered to Stand By.

I'm a bit confused. In the The Supreme State Offers its Support To British Londinium (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535545) thread, Allanea attacks Kraven Corporation ships with Khan missiles and bombs Kravenic territory with nuclear weapons. In the To Take The Unwilling (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535960) thread though, no mention of any of this is made and it seems like the Kravenic forces are unscathed.

Is Allanea "dis-invited," have we fluid timed back to before combat began, or do I just suck at RP?

I'm a bit confused. In the The Supreme State Offers its Support To British Londinium (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535545) thread, Allanea attacks Kraven Corporation ships with Khan missiles and bombs Kravenic territory with nuclear weapons. In the To Take The Unwilling (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535960) thread though, no mention of any of this is made and it seems like the Kravenic forces are unscathed.

Is Allanea "dis-invited," have we fluid timed back to before combat began, or do I just suck at RP?

Ah well, you see, if you read the response to the vessels that are under attack, the Admiral radios the 2nd battlefleet requesting assitance, and in the To Take The Unwilling, the 2nd battlefleet orders the Concremo first naval fleet to meet up at the set co-ordinates... its cryptic... but its there...

as for the attack against me that is nuclear... I haven't decided what to do yet..

Hey Kraven, just out of curiosity, what happened to that RP you started where it looked like you were going to become all nice and happy and good?

Hey Kraven, just out of curiosity, what happened to that RP you started where it looked like you were going to become all nice and happy and good?

Thats still work in progress... and Kraven will Never be happy and good... just... erm... how should I put it... hmmm...."Ethicaly Dubious?"

Hey, there is nothing wrong with that. Ethics and morality are merely a societies guidelines on behaviour, nothing to be taken too seriously if breaking them will get you ahead *insert evil laughter here*

Besides, i'd hate to see you go all nice anyway.

Is there room for one more on BL's side, or is this too far along?

Plenty of room - we're waiting for Kraven to actually move his forces towards BL; as of now, they're rendezvouing somewhere.

So room to fight against Kraven? (Mind you, I wouldn't be fighting for BL, but against Kraven. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that jazz)

So room to fight against Kraven? (Mind you, I wouldn't be fighting for BL, but against Kraven. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all that jazz)

i might help BL, only because KC is a bigger threat

I appreciate that, Cazelia, but aren't you FT now?

I'll be involved in this, but as I mentioned to BL earlier I'm only sending troops if it looks like he will be defeated by Kraven.

I appreciate that, Cazelia, but aren't you FT now?

i have my MT nation still, but i've just been using my FT nation more often

As an observer, this is starting to become a MAJOR dogpile. I suggest that BL takes 1-3 allies to fight Kraven because no one can fight hundreds of nations ranging from '03-'07's...Just my opinion.

As an observer, this is starting to become a MAJOR dogpile. I suggest that BL takes 1-3 allies to fight Kraven because no one can fight hundreds of nations ranging from '03-'07's...Just my opinion.

I agree. That's why I decided to stay out of this unless it is clear that BL will lose; it just ruins the RP if a bunch of nations dogpile on one side or another.

Unless Kraven gets some friends.

Unless Kraven gets some friends.

Kraven has friends? :p

I would feel 'guily' if I helped BL and the coalition massively dogpile some guy, even if it was Kraven...

I would feel 'guily' if I helped BL and the coalition massively dogpile some guy, even if it was Kraven...

I'd feel guilty that such a promising RP degenerated in to a lame-ass dogpile.

Kraven has friends? :p

I would feel 'guily' if I helped BL and the coalition massively dogpile some guy, even if it was Kraven...

come on... you know you want to...

I'd feel guilty that such a promising RP degenerated in to a lame-ass dogpile.

That too. And the funny thing was...Kraven made the IC post and closed it for a few friends. Then suddenly hundreds of people jumped into the OOC thread, asking to join.....>.<


EDIT: come on... you know you want to...

Never! *flings j00 out the window*

Kraven has friends? :p

I would feel 'guily' if I helped BL and the coalition massively dogpile some guy, even if it was Kraven...

Kraven is CA, no?

Oh, that's right, you guys are still dropping the ball on the NPE thing and our space assault...

<.< >.> :p

EDIT:

Never! *flings j00 out the window*

you want power.... defeat Kraven and gain it *eats a cookie before being gunned down by capitol police*

I would feel 'guily' if I helped BL and the coalition massively dogpile some guy, even if it was Kraven...

Especially if it was Kraven, cause otherwise this RP will be awesomez reading.

Considering the caliber of Kraven, BL obviously has right to have some allies, but that how many and how big exactly should be discussed by BL and Kraven themselfly.

Yep. I'm only sending about 30 'advisors' that way my numbers won't counter Kraven's just by themselves. I'll only send more if they are desperately required simply because ICly there is no way my government would allow Kraven to occupy BL's territory.

People please keep pure ooc posts in ooc thread.

OOC: Would everyone be all right with me making one big reponse to everybody once Kraven posts?

Yea, im alright with it.

if i go into action, i'll just send 2 companies of marines, a tank company and an advanced aircraft squadron. nothing big

oh, and probably my signature unit, the Ghosts...

Jesus f***ing Christ, Yet more people are joining in the Closed thread....>.< Good God

if i go into action, i'll just send 2 companies of marines, a tank company and an advanced aircraft squadron. nothing big

oh, and probably my signature unit, the Ghosts...

Cazelia, this is a closed RP. You need permission to join.

Cazelia, this is a closed RP. You need permission to join.

I said If I go into action.

Hail..

Yes can we please hold off the dogpiling, because even though i seem to walk around with this mystique, i can't lock horns with 18 nations varying from 1940-2007.. on my own and expect to come out of it smiling... >_>

Oh, btw Warmaster: Kraven forces are still in Yeltsmin, ive just moved my 2nd Battlefleet away, leaving the First and Third still there...

Do you think i'd fight that hard for Yeltsmin, just to turn tail and flee to somewhere else.... Pffttttt..

Oh, btw Warmaster: Kraven forces are still in Yeltsmin, ive just moved my 2nd Battlefleet away, leaving the First and Third still there...

Do you think i'd fight that hard for Yeltsmin, just to turn tail and flee to somewhere else.... Pffttttt..

Lol...I'm glad to hear that; although almost all that post is IC only, I was a little confused when I thought you pulled out all your forces.

Where are we on the actual invasion? Has Kraven posted again yet?

Where are we on the actual invasion? Has Kraven posted again yet?

Hail people.

Just like to appologise for my absence, with the summer holidays over, work has been picking up for me in the last few weeks and i haven't had the energy or the time to post...

Please bear with me until i can get the ball rolling again.

Thanks

Kraven

Hail people.

Just like to appologise for my absence, with the summer holidays over, work has been picking up for me in the last few weeks and i haven't had the energy or the time to post...

Please bear with me until i can get the ball rolling again.

Thanks

Kraven

Heh. I know how that is man. I work at a textbook store and the past few weeks have been hilatious with sales. And by the time i'm done, i'm not really mentally ready to do any sort of RPing. Just today I had to ship out roughly 95 textbooks that were sold on Amazon.