NationStates Jolt Archive

Ok this is my first attempt at making an Earth. Ive seen plenty come and go and been apart of many. Many have worked, and many have failed. I plan to make this one succeed. And let me just thank Candistan for all the work he did helping me with this.

Overview

The basic idea of this Earth is to have a map of the world in the years immediatly preceeding WWI. Each nation is split into territories
corresponding to rough blocks of 9 million people each. Of course for China and India this is not the case. (More On That Later) The tech level of the Earth will be that of MT RL nations. So if your America, you dont get the Khan missles your NS nation has. We will be using the GDPof the modern nation for simplicity purposes. Now I do not plan to be to stricked on spending and such, but if your nation is in landlocked Africa dont go building a 300km long canal so you can buy an aircraft carrier.

As to the issue of factbooks, they will be needed on a minimal level, such as listing leaders, pop, GDP and maybe a few other things. If you want to do more go ahead It is for simple reference for others that want to crush you beneath there feet.

BE AWARE: In this you will be Rping as YOUR nation inserted into this Earth, not the actual territories you pick. So you are free to rename cities and build a copy of the Washinton monument in the middle of Cambodia if you feel like it.

Territory Claiming

Territories are picked by taking your NS population and dividing it by a factor of 200. Then for each Million people you have you get to pick 1 territory. For example:

Shakal NS population: 1.8 Billion/200 = 9 Million Therefore I get 9 Territores Barring Any Bonus. This number is also the population you work with.

This brings me to the point of any bonuses. I will offer several kinds all recommended by my good assistant Candistan. The first is the basic signup bonus. They will be awarded in basic ladder fashion also as follows:

1st Person = 5 Bonus Territories
2nd Person = 4 Bonus Territories
3rd Person = 3 Bonus Territories
4th Person = 2 Bonus Territories
5th Person = 1 Bonus Terriotory

This is the basic ladder. In addition to this a territorial bonus is also a bonus gathered from coastal territories. If you claim 3 territories on the coast you may pick ONE adjoining territory NOT along the coast. This symbolizes extra food production and such. This is only given once.

Sub-Section India & China

For this we are going to use something Candistan called the "Hong Kong Shuffle" this means, that if one person want to claim all of China or India that ISNT already claimed that is all they get. No bonuses at all. Simply these territories.

Homeland Construction Bonus

If you pick all the territories that make up a nations Homeland, such as France (including Corsica) you recieve the benifit of having 5 million added to your population total originally calculated by taking your NS population and dividing it by a factor of 200.

Powerful Nation Handicaps

In addition to several bonuses this Earth will also attempt to level the playing field somewhat for smaller nations by creating a mild handicap for what were at the time very powerful nations.Levels, there are several levels. The highest get less bonuses and the the lowest get greater bonuses to help even out the playing field as it were. There are 6 Levels. The level bonuses are listed below:

Minimal Bonus
Pop Bonus 500 000

Fair Bonus
Pop Bonus 1 million

Basic Bonus
Pop Bonus 2 million
1 Extra Territory

Large Bonus
Pop Bonus 3 million
2 Extra Territories

Huge Bonus
Pop Bonus 5 Million
3 Extra Territories

As a note China and India are included in the NO Bonus Region if a single player claims the entire country.

No Bonus
USA
Russia

Minimal Bonus
Germany
Britain

Fair Bonus
France
Austria-Hungary
Italy

Basic Bonus
Ottoman Empire
Canada
Austrailia
New Zealand

Large Bonus
Japan
Manchuria
Mexico

Huge Bonus
African Nations
South American Nations


Maps

WORLD (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=6cretrq)

Europe (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=5xr3pua)
South America (All Claimed)
Africa (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4xksrux)
Aisa (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4qyl2dt)
North America (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4xo9ohh)
Austrailia (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4plaond)

Member List:
Shakal = Shakal Empire(Germany)
Fordreich = Dae Baedal Jaeguk (Japan)
Die Zweiten Reich = Zweiten Reich (Austria)
No Taxes = No Taxes(South America)
Candistan = Empire of All Russias (Russia)
Imperial isa = Imperial isa (Austrailia)
North Calvernas = United Soviet States of America (South West USA Coast)
Amazonian Beasts = Amazonan Beasts (Ottoman Empire, Egypt)
H-Town Tejas = Peoples Democratic Republic Of Africa (Most Of West Africa)
New Brittonia = Republic Of Tibet (Tibet)
Kampfers = Kampfers (Texas, Mexican Coast)
Kanisov = 3rd Republic of Kansiov (Spain)
Lachenburg = Republic Of Columbia (East Canada, New England)
Lach-Land = The United Scandinavian Federation (Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Greenland)

Factbooks:

Guessing that one territory is one nation overall? I guess ill try it out...Though how about a regulation and etc...I mean i would get to choose 5 territories, so i could just go around and have India, China, Russia, Ottoman Empire, and Arabia or something. I would like to go with China, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam and Japan under "Dae Baedal Jaeguk" plz. I wont use up my other 4, cuz i think i have enough claims already...

Im in obviously.

Nation Name:
Zweiten Reich (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=632w6yo)

Ill have a factbook up bu the end of the night hopefully.

EDIT:w00t! First To sign up! Good thing too... otherwise I could have been stuck with 1 lousy territory...

Im in obviously.

Nation Name:
Zweiten Reich (http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=632w6yo)

Ill have a factbook up bu the end of the night hopefully.

EDIT:w00t! First To sign up! Good thing too... otherwise I could have been stuck with 1 lousy territory...

lol....2nd, actually :/

DAMNIT! You and your speed.

lol...sorry? :/ i just saw the thread anyways >.>

Guessing that one territory is one nation overall? I guess ill try it out...Though how about a regulation and etc...I mean i would get to choose 5 territories, so i could just go around and have India, China, Russia, Ottoman Empire, and Arabia or something. I would like to go with China, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam and Japan under "Dae Baedal Jaeguk" plz. I wont use up my other 4, cuz i think i have enough claims already...

DAMNIT! You and your speed.

Basically I'd like to claim all of South America, because my NS pop is 3.317 billion and that gives me 16 territories (which is actually more than there are in South America.

Guessing that one territory is one nation overall? I guess ill try it out...Though how about a regulation and etc...I mean i would get to choose 5 territories, so i could just go around and have India, China, Russia, Ottoman Empire, and Arabia or something. I would like to go with China, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam and Japan under "Dae Baedal Jaeguk" plz. I wont use up my other 4, cuz i think i have enough claims already...

And no. you takle your NS pop, divide it by 200. Thats gives you a number. This number is how many territories you can take, like her, 9 million pop, 9 territories... those countries are just if you build the WHOLE country i think...

I would like to claim these territores: http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9210/worldatwarfd4.png

My NS population is 3.317 billion so that gave me 16 territories and I took 3 for being the 3rd member.

DZR took the Austrian stuff.

Fordreich ok.

DZR took the Austrian stuff.

Fordreich ok.

Yeah I edited it after I saw his post so now I'd like to take all of South America.

Your link don't work.

I have 3.4 billion people...does that qualify me for the USA, Cuba, and Canada?

Shakal let me in PLEASE!!! then i will get my facbook.

My eleven claims are in black.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/kadangadooo/4v8v5ts.jpg

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m78/kadangadooo/4qnrp03.jpg

It is going to be the Empire of All Russias.

Your link don't work.

I have 3.4 billion people...does that qualify me for the USA, Cuba, and Canada?

No, ITS THE INDIVIDUAL TERRITORIES Not the whole country...
And No Taxes, Got it.
NC go ahead.

No, ITS THE INDIVIDUAL TERRITORIES Not the whole country...
And No Taxes, Got it.
NC go ahead.

Once again, your link doesn't work, so I don't know how the USA is divided.

I have 17 claims to work with. Is the USA divided into more than 17 claims?

Austrailia

my paint isnt working, im sending you the picture of my territorys Shakal on MSN.

Austrailia

In.

Um...do you have photobucket for that link, or something?

Or via MSN...me and Candistan are on...

Guessing that one territory is one nation overall? I guess ill try it out...Though how about a regulation and etc...I mean i would get to choose 5 territories, so i could just go around and have India, China, Russia, Ottoman Empire, and Arabia or something. I would like to go with China, Korea, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam and Japan under "Dae Baedal Jaeguk" plz. I wont use up my other 4, cuz i think i have enough claims already...

meaning that not only Japan, but Korea, China, Vietnam, and Thailand. I have close to 1 billion population, and signed up first, so it would be like this


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q220/dlcndgh234/6630b2d.png

Um...do you have photobucket for that link, or something?

Or via MSN...me and Candistan are on...

i dont have your msn, i will tg you mine.

My 18 claims are everything on this map (http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/fukuoka_yakuza/54453py.jpg) marked with red, as the People's Democratic Republic of Africa.

Just a hint: You want to make those maps PNGs. That way, the map itself isn't all fuzzy, and what happened to that map doesn't happen.

why do people forget Tasmania part of Australia

I dunno how thhis works, but can I get Tibet, just Tibet.

meaning that not only Japan, but Korea, China, Vietnam, and Thailand. I have close to 1 billion population, and signed up first, so it would be like this


http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q220/dlcndgh234/6630b2d.png

You dont get it. Your NS pop is 1 Billion so YOU TAKE 1 000 000 000 AND DIVIDE IT BY 200 this would give you 5 territories plus coastal bonus.If you dont bother reading the first post im going to kick you out of this.

here a map with it in
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t69/zxc_047/OZ.png

Shakal, can i be called: United Soviet States of America

I dunno how thhis works, but can I get Tibet, just Tibet.

Sure.

And ok NC.

Alright, I got the pics to work, and based off of the African/ME/Euro divisions, here are what my 17 claims (3.4 billion) amount to:

Turkey (8 points)
Israel Area [Israel, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and a bit of Western Iraq] (1 point)
Egypt (1 point)
Libya (1 point)
Algeria/Tunisia (1 point)
Morocco (1 point)
Saudi Arabian Area (1 point)
Niger/Mali Big Area (1 point)
Sudan Big Area (1 point)
Western Saudi Arabian Red Sea Coast (1 point)

Maps (On the Eastern Map, I marked the Turkey/ME area on the Europe Map as Red, but that claim is reflected territory-wise on the Euro/ME map)

Sorry for the crap quality. I'm Red.


Euro/West ME:

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/TurkeyIsraelMap.JPG

Eastern (Asia/East ME):

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/Easternmap.JPG

Africa:

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/AfricaMap.JPG


Do I get bonuses with these? If so, I'm gonna keep claiming into Asia and Africa and maybe Spain and France...

you have Africa map twice now you fix it

you have Africa map twice now you fit it

Edited :p

If I get the bonuses the front page states...this will be scary

Alright, I got the pics to work, and based off of the African/ME/Euro divisions, here are what my 17 claims (3.4 billion) amount to:

Turkey (8 points)
Israel Area [Israel, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and a bit of Western Iraq] (1 point)
Egypt (1 point)
Libya (1 point)
Algeria/Tunisia (1 point)
Morocco (1 point)
Saudi Arabian Area (1 point)
Niger/Mali Big Area (1 point)
Sudan Big Area (1 point)
Western Saudi Arabian Red Sea Coast (1 point)

Maps (On the Eastern Map, I marked the Turkey/ME area on the Europe Map as Red, but that claim is reflected territory-wise on the Euro/ME map)

Sorry for the crap quality. I'm Red.


Euro/West ME:

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/TurkeyIsraelMap.JPG

Eastern (Asia/East ME):

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/Easternmap.JPG

Africa:

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/AfricaMap.JPG


Do I get bonuses with these? If so, I'm gonna keep claiming into Asia and Africa and maybe Spain and France...

Well, you do, but some of your african picks are gone already.

Shakal, I can't do the math currently. So please be nice.

here is what I ask for.

Texas-Florida. 4 territories
Cuba. 1 more.
Yucatan Penensula. 1 more.

If I have more points than that, can you add territories between Texas and the Yucatan. If I have less points, delete things from the bottom up. Sorry I cant do the math right now...

Just saw that. Replace the Morrocco to the Iraq, replace the Mali to the Caucuses/Caspian Sea claim, and replace the Algerian one to the Yemen claim

As for bonuses...Shakal, could you just add the bonuses that I recieve (I can't figure the system), and just hit up the territories unclaimed that are too my East that total those numbers? I just want a connected empire. I gotta go-be back tomorrow at 5 if it's messed.

You dont get it. Your NS pop is 1 Billion so YOU TAKE 1 000 000 000 AND DIVIDE IT BY 200 this would give you 5 territories plus coastal bonus.If you dont bother reading the first post im going to kick you out of this.

I C now, and i have read it. Just got a lil confused. Sorry about that :D

Edited :p

If I get the bonuses the front page states...this will be scary
The thing is, the more land you get the less your already low population density becomes, although I doubt you will end up with 1.2 people per sq km. like me.

so you said we dont us NS created weopons, so does that mean, i cant use soviet equipment in my American located country, like do i have to use Abrams and such.

The thing is, the more land you get the less your already low population density becomes, although I doubt you will end up with 1.2 people per sq km. like me.

Don't matter to me for pop density. Ask Bangladesh and Japan how they like being cramped.

so you said we dont us NS created weopons, so does that mean, i cant use soviet equipment in my American located country, like do i have to use Abrams and such.

indeed you have to use what they have in RL like i have LP1s and M1s

XC I hate m-16's, but i still get Apache, Raptor, and B2 YAY!

I thought a "world" war implies that it already involves everyone on this planet. Namely "earth".

Shakal, I can't do the math currently. So please be nice.

here is what I ask for.

Texas-Florida. 4 territories
Cuba. 1 more.
Yucatan Penensula. 1 more.

If I have more points than that, can you add territories between Texas and the Yucatan. If I have less points, delete things from the bottom up. Sorry I cant do the math right now...

Ahem.

doing the math in my head, I think I get 5 points, but I'm not sure.

LOL californias economy is SO powerful, its like 25% of the US economy!

I thought a "world" war implies that it already involves everyone on this planet. Namely "earth".

And you had to come in and tell us this why?

XC I hate m-16's, but i still get Apache, Raptor, and B2 YAY!

let not forget nukes which i don't all get to play with if two kind of tanks Abrams and Leopard

Is this MT or PT?

i think there should be a VERY limited amount of Nukes XD(remebers BL)

Is this MT or PT?
MT
i think there should be a VERY limited amount of Nukes XD(remebers BL)

see who attacking him now you can say good bye to him

So when are we going to start this biscuit?

*calmly awaits confirmation*

@NC: maybe when more people sign up? Duh...

yes when others arrive.....

Just saw that. Replace the Morrocco to the Iraq, replace the Mali to the Caucuses/Caspian Sea claim, and replace the Algerian one to the Yemen claim

As for bonuses...Shakal, could you just add the bonuses that I recieve (I can't figure the system), and just hit up the territories unclaimed that are too my East that total those numbers? I just want a connected empire. I gotta go-be back tomorrow at 5 if it's messed.

You have them all, dont worry. :p

Cuba would only be one territory woudn't it be?

Cuba would only be one territory woudn't it be?

Yup its 1.

@Kampfers:Your in.

@AB:Bonuses Done, but youll have to read for your factbook...

Cuba would only be one territory woudn't it be?

I already claimed it. Dammit shakal, approve me! LOL..

EDIT: LOL already done.

DAMN YOU KAMPFERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many terretories is 1.5(lol im a bit drugf**ked)
if its not taken can i have Germany(perferrably the German Empire rather than the humilated or facist one) Scandinavia and denmark and alaska(how much would that cost?)

DAMN YOU KAMPFERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many terretories is 1.5(lol im a bit drugf**ked)
if its not taken can i have Germany(perferrably the German Empire rather than the humilated or facist one) Scandinavia and denmark and alaska(how much would that cost?)

For 1.5 I would have to say very little. Since it would count as 2...
@ Kampf;FORGOT CUBA DAMNIT!

DAMN YOU KAMPFERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many terretories is 1.5(lol im a bit drugf**ked)
if its not taken can i have Germany(perferrably the German Empire rather than the humilated or facist one) Scandinavia and denmark and alaska(how much would that cost?)

no you can't have Gremany if you read you see it gone

Shakal, I can't do the math currently. So please be nice.

here is what I ask for.

US coastal territories from Texas to Florida. 4 territories
Cuba. 1 more.
Yucatan Penensula. 1 more.

If I have more points than that, can you add territories between Texas and the Yucatan. If I have less points, delete things from the bottom up. Sorry I cant do the math right now...

This is my original claim Shakal, to clear it up.

DAMN YOU KAMPFERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

how many terretories is 1.5(lol im a bit drugf**ked)
if its not taken can i have Germany(perferrably the German Empire rather than the humilated or facist one) Scandinavia and denmark and alaska(how much would that cost?)

no you can't have Gremany if you read you see it gone
thats why i said (lol im a bit drugf**ked) have you never dealt with stoners?

i have another nation with 1.5 billion can i count that and double the territories?

thats why i said (lol im a bit drugf**ked) have you never dealt with stoners?

i have another nation with 1.5 billion can i count that and double the territories?

no not for two years now

ok i used my phone as a calculator 7.5 can i round it to 8?

scandinavia is 5 terriotories can i take that?

ok i used my phone as a calculator 7.5 can i round it to 8?

scandinavia is 5 terriotories can i take that?

Yup. Ill update tommorow.

sweet

country name: The United Scandinavian Federation

i'll get a factbook sometime

EDIT: also Iceland and Greenland please

i'm a bit confused about the bonuses if you get a teretory that gives you a free one is that bassicallly free?

Whole of Spain

Country Name: 3rd Republic of Kansiov

I would like to join my pop is 572 million so divided by 200 it is 2,860,000 i am confused about the bonus and i only get one claim point is that right

Muy Gracias, Shakal...

Since I see mine are listed as "Ottoman Empire" and "Egypt", and since those fall under "Basic" and "Huge" respectively, I'll go find four other connected spots to pick and add...

EDIT: Reading, that qualifies me for "7 mill extra peeps" and "4 territories", so for the latter, here's what I'm thinkin'...reflected on the map below in blue (basically, the Iran-Iraq area, or, MORE Ottoman/Persian stuff :p)

http://usera.imagecave.com/WR82/shit.JPG

If you don't mind I'd like to take the two territories which collectively make up New England (the one that appears to be Maine and the one directly below it) as well as Eastern Canada. As for my faction name, The Republic of Columbia will be suitable.

Thanks.

Shakal, can you call me the Republic of Tibet?

All Updated.

Thanks so when is IC up?

mine didn't go up

also just to clear this up the weapons are only post WW1 aye?

mine didn't go up

also just to clear this up the weapons are only post WW1 aye?

No its MT tech, and sorry Ill fix.

whats era is MT tech? modern time?

and i'm the United Scandinavian Federation. lachenberg is the republic of colombia.

Assuming you let me have 2 claims (Really 1.97 or 8) I'd like to do Israel (with Gaza Strip and West Bank?) and Egypt.

Israel is taken

Darn it then.

VDB: I took virtually the entire Middle East already...

I'm gonna start up a factbook for all my stuff here...

just working on that...YAY I GET LEOPARDS AND SOVIET STUFF AND MAYBE SOME AMERICAN STUFF!!!!!!!(i picked the perfect countries by the look of it!.)

if i have anymore claims can i also have Denmark. then Canada.