NationStates Jolt Archive

Opening statement of trail

My fellow nation states, I charge British Londonium with excessive overkill nearly wiping out my ally with a massive nuclear holocuast with 45,000 nuclear weapons. If I win this trial, we must join together to confiscate the nukes British Londonium ownes. Please note that The People's Communist State of North Calaveras never launched a single nuke. British Londonium as we speak are assisting in the reconstruction of North Calaveras. Even with that, British Londonium must explain the reason for the nuclear attack. This all occured during Operation: Caramel Teacup.

First Evidence:

Opening Introduction of Operation Caramel Teacup


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Consular Office
Aedifices Parliamentarii
Kensington, British Londinium
0900 hours

Minister of Foreign Affairs Cecilia Belladini walked briskly to the subdued wooden door that led to the Consul's office, her black heels clacking against the hard floor. She smiled tersely at Liz, Sir Alistair's personal secretary, as she opened the door.

"Good morning, sir," Cecilia said as she took a seat on the other end of Sir Alistair's glass desk. She set a thin white binder on the desk and slid it towards the Consul. "Today's foreign affairs updates."

"Tea?" he asked succinctly.

"Yes, please, Alistair," Cecilia said warmly. Sir Alistair picked up a silver tea kettle and poured some Earl Grey into a Byzantine china tea cup as Cecilia continued. "The Soviets have created a new alliance, Wanderjar and The PeoplesFreedom have had some sort of row, and North Calaveras has invaded some tiny little country; I believe it's called Mesotarian."

The Consul's lips pursed as he heard the last bit of news. "With the Sons of Lenin, I presume?"

"Naturally, sir," Cecilia said, taking a sip from the cup Sir Alistair presented to her.

"Action must be taken," he said. "It is groups like the Sons of Lenin that ensure that socialism is not taken seriously by the world." The Consul paused to drink a taste of his tea. "I could crush North Calaveras like an ant. But, it would be too easy. Vengeance is a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... oh, what the hell, I'll just crush them like an ant. Inform the War Ministry that yet another invasion is in the works."

"Right away, sir," Cecilia replied.


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Official Communiqué

To the North Calaveran government:

British Londinium is most displeased with your overthrow of the Mesotarian government; we do not look kindly upon behaviour that is little better than state-sponsored terrorism.

With that in mind, the People's Sovereign Republic hereby declares war on your pathetic, penurious excuse for a nation. You have twelve hours to surrender before active combat operations begin. Failure to do so will result in your extermination.

Sincerely,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Alistair Davidson, MP
Consul of British Londinium

[OoC: do you mean trial?]

OOC: Disregarding the correct statements in the other thread about how this has no jurisdiction over BL, why exactly are you conducting the trial rather than North Calaveras?

4000, lulz

OOC: It was 27,000 nuclear missiles, not 45,000. Why would I use half my arsenal against one nation? One-fourth is so much more reasonable.

EDIT: And how would your government have access to recordings of the going-ons in the Consular Office? Let's think about this, people. Not happening. The most you could quote from that post would be the message to NC.

OOC: Disregarding the correct statements in the other thread about how this has no jurisdiction over BL, why exactly are you conducting the trial rather than North Calaveras?

4000, lulz


OOC:

Because in all respects, NC does not exist anymore.

Northern Baltic, Foreign Relations Office
Amongst the mass of paper work, the council sat in a clearing where a table and some chairs had been set up.
"Yes but how can we allow this when..." Suddenly an aide walked into the clearing and announced, "Mesotarian is attempting to put British Londonium on trial."
The Council was silent, until a few seconds after the aide left. One of the Council members produced a small device from his pocket and pressed the button. He pressed it and the television screens set up on the wall next to the table turned on. After several seconds of watching a blue screen, information about Mesotarian appeared on the screen. Now the Council would get to work. A few minutes later, two letters were made.
The first one said:
People of the Sovereign nation of Mesotarian,
Your government has enslaved you. To long have they said they meant the best for the people, but have close ties with the corporations and have given them free reign over the consumption of your resources at the expense of your environment and your souls. To long have we watched your military budget skyrocket. Your military and your corporations want a war. They want to fight. You may ask; Why would they do such a horrible thing? Profit.

Rise up brothers and sister! Overthrow the Capitalist yoke and establish a government by the people and for the people. We will assist you, Comrades!
As Karl Marx once said, "Workers of the world, unite!"

The second letter said:
To the government of Mesotarian:
You are a danger to the national security of all nations. Your inability to control your increasing crime problem as well as your increasing military budget has pushed us into a position in which we only have one option: war. The increasing disturbing reports of the ease uranium can be obtained has forced this role on us. We have no other option. Surrender or be conquered.

The first letter was copied several thousand times and loaded onto 30 F-117 Nighthawk bombers. They would drop them over several urban industrial centers. The second letter was sent directly to the government of Mesotarian. Most of the Northern Baltic fleet was now preparing to leave. The better part of it would be out to sea in under an hour. Two Northern Baltic Assault Marine Armies as well as one Northern Baltic Regular Army would be with the fleet to attack Mesotarian. Several ships full of weapons followed behind, escorted by submarines.

Northern Baltic, Foreign Relations Office
Amongst the mass of paper work, the council sat in a clearing where a table and some chairs had been set up.
"Yes but how can we allow this when..." Suddenly an aide walked into the clearing and announced, "Mesotarian is attempting to put British Londonium on trial."
The Council was silent, until a few seconds after the aide left. One of the Council members produced a small device from his pocket and pressed the button. He pressed it and the television screens set up on the wall next to the table turned on. After several seconds of watching a blue screen, information about Mesotarian appeared on the screen. Now the Council would get to work. A few minutes later, two letters were made.
The first one said:
People of the Sovereign nation of Mesotarian,
Your government has enslaved you. To long have they said they meant the best for the people, but have close ties with the corporations and have given them free reign over the consumption of your resources at the expense of your environment and your souls. To long have we watched your military budget skyrocket. Your military and your corporations want a war. They want to fight. You may ask; Why would they do such a horrible thing? Profit.

Rise up brothers and sister! Overthrow the Capitalist yoke and establish a government by the people and for the people. We will assist you, Comrades!
As Karl Marx once said, "Workers of the world, unite!"

The second letter said:
To the government of Mesotarian:
You are a danger to the national security of all nations. Your inability to control your increasing crime problem as well as your increasing military budget has pushed us into a position in which we only have one option: war. The increasing disturbing reports of the ease uranium can be obtained has forced this role on us. We have no other option. Surrender or be conquered.

The first letter was copied several thousand times and loaded onto 30 F-117 Nighthawk bombers. They would drop them over several urban industrial centers. The second letter was sent directly to the government of Mesotarian. Most of the Northern Baltic fleet was now preparing to leave. The better part of it would be out to sea in under an hour. Two Northern Baltic Assault Marine Armies as well as one Northern Baltic Regular Army would be with the fleet to attack Mesotarian. Several ships full of weapons followed behind, escorted by submarines.


OOC: Meso is actually a communist nation. NC did that before he was wiped off the map.

OOC: Actually I had a look at his nation's page and he isn't Communist at all. At best, he's one of those 'New Socialists', but I don't accept them to be true Socialists.

The country of Zackaroth has noticed movements torwards the nation of Mesotarian. We have satelite data confirming this is indeed a military force tracing it back to The Northern Baltic. If this is an invasionary force we ask the Baltic goverment to immediately cease its hostile movements torwards Mesotarian. The country has not done anything wrong besides make a fool of itself. We advise you stop now or we will intervene.

Aimless von Strangaild, High Leader of Zackaroth.


OOC: Seriously whats up with the random invasion of this guy? This same thing happened yesterday when NC made him a puppet state. People got pissed and now look what happened NC :P

OOC: Honestly, I just made a promise to the workers. Would hate to have it broken, but oh well. I wanted to invade him after he threatened to put one of my allies on trial. Didn't hear about the other stuff that happened before this.

IC: We have no hostile intentions against the government or the people of Mesotarian. The forces you have seen are simply on a large-scale training exercise. In an effort to preserve, or even strengthen, relations between our two nations, we ask that you join us in this military exercise.

OOC: You know that people dont pay atention to their NS nation page, right?

Because if that were so, Questers would have a horrible economy, Wanderjar would a capitalist paradise and Clandonia Prime would be an anarchy.

That, and Meso is communist, as well as just defending himself from the guy that just dropped 29,000 nukes on his only ally.

*27,000

OOC: You know someone really needs to kick British Londinium's ass and soon.

OOC: You know someone really needs to kick British Londinium's ass and soon.

OOC: For what he did I'd be surprised if the Hegemony will let him walk. Although if they use nukes...
Edit: Lone Alliance, TG.

OOC: For what he did I'd be surprised if the Hegemony will let him walk. Although if they use nukes...
Edit: Lone Alliance, TG.

Noone will be messing with BL, unless they want to trample me too :p So..if this trial goes through, will this be the traditional process of a court with the plantiff and defendant? If so, will they have representations? Also, will the judge be making the decision or will there be a jury group?

OOC: You know someone really needs to kick British Londinium's ass and soon.

OOC: I smacked down his navy in the Mediterranean Sea.

In other news.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity

BL you need to do a sarcastic response along the lines of this Wikipedia article.

OOC:
Edit: Lone Alliance, TG. I didn't get it, send it again.
Oh Fordreich? I would GLADLY trample on you in the process.

And Leaf, since when do people in NS care about Sovereignity in the case of crazy genocidal nations?

OOC: For what he did I'd be surprised if the Hegemony will let him walk. Although if they use nukes...
Edit: Lone Alliance, TG.

Hegemony is weak. I've looked at their membership list and all together, they barely rival me.

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Official Communiqué

Open Declaration:

If I knew how, I would laugh at this pathetic excuse for a trial. Londinian law, the only law I answer to, grants me both sacrosanctity and sovereign immunity. This court has no jurisdiction over me, and any attempt to force British Londinium to comply with its ruling will fail.

With utmost contempt,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Alistair Davidson, MP
Consul of British Londinium

OOC: I didn't get it, send it again.
Oh Fordreich? I would GLADLY trample on you in the process.

And Leaf, since when do people in NS care about Sovereignity in the case of crazy genocidal nations?

Bring it :D

As we speak right now there is attack on British Londium soil. This can be guessed as an NC terrorist group that has attaitned transports. We have satelitle proof that those men came from Mesotarian. They seemed to have been hiding and regrouping in the country! If there should be anyone on trial it should be you Mesotarian! But we all know sovergien immunity is in play. So instead I will declare war upon your nation for balantly and knowingly supporting a terrorist attack upon a fellow UFAN member. This can be avoided if your leader step downs, and Zackaroth is allowed to install a more...suitable goverment for your people. Oh and we know you have nukes. Should you make any attempt to even OPen the silos we will make you into burning rumble that will put NC to shame! The choice is yours.


Aimless von Strangaild, High leader of Zackaroth.

Opening statement of trail

My fellow nation states, I charge British Londonium with excessive overkill nearly wiping out my ally with a massive nuclear holocuast with 45,000 nuclear weapons. If I win this trial, we must join together to confiscate the nukes British Londonium ownes. Please note that The People's Communist State of North Calaveras never launched a single nuke. British Londonium as we speak are assisting in the reconstruction of North Calaveras. Even with that, British Londonium must explain the reason for the nuclear attack. This all occured during Operation: Caramel Teacup.

First Evidence:

Opening Introduction of Operation Caramel Teacup


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Consular Office
Aedifices Parliamentarii
Kensington, British Londinium
0900 hours

Minister of Foreign Affairs Cecilia Belladini walked briskly to the subdued wooden door that led to the Consul's office, her black heels clacking against the hard floor. She smiled tersely at Liz, Sir Alistair's personal secretary, as she opened the door.

"Good morning, sir," Cecilia said as she took a seat on the other end of Sir Alistair's glass desk. She set a thin white binder on the desk and slid it towards the Consul. "Today's foreign affairs updates."

"Tea?" he asked succinctly.

"Yes, please, Alistair," Cecilia said warmly. Sir Alistair picked up a silver tea kettle and poured some Earl Grey into a Byzantine china tea cup as Cecilia continued. "The Soviets have created a new alliance, Wanderjar and The PeoplesFreedom have had some sort of row, and North Calaveras has invaded some tiny little country; I believe it's called Mesotarian."

The Consul's lips pursed as he heard the last bit of news. "With the Sons of Lenin, I presume?"

"Naturally, sir," Cecilia said, taking a sip from the cup Sir Alistair presented to her.

"Action must be taken," he said. "It is groups like the Sons of Lenin that ensure that socialism is not taken seriously by the world." The Consul paused to drink a taste of his tea. "I could crush North Calaveras like an ant. But, it would be too easy. Vengeance is a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... oh, what the hell, I'll just crush them like an ant. Inform the War Ministry that yet another invasion is in the works."

"Right away, sir," Cecilia replied.


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Official Communiqué

To the North Calaveran government:

British Londinium is most displeased with your overthrow of the Mesotarian government; we do not look kindly upon behaviour that is little better than state-sponsored terrorism.

With that in mind, the People's Sovereign Republic hereby declares war on your pathetic, penurious excuse for a nation. You have twelve hours to surrender before active combat operations begin. Failure to do so will result in your extermination.

Sincerely,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Alistair Davidson, MP
Consul of British Londinium

ooc: I hate BL as much and probably more than you do, and even I say 'epic phail'

i did not come from Mestorian, i cam from Shakal lol.

i did not come from Mestorian, i cam from Shakal lol.

OOc: WE Have Satelite image showing forces grouping up in meso's waters so we have to assume you came from there. And the transport ships did seem to pick up people there.

The Cripistan Military advisors have read all the statements and accusations made during this trial, and obviously BL is not to blame. If anyone attacks BL we will immedietly send troops to aid BL.

P.S.- Cripistan is a memeber of the ECC and will have other nations involved if necessary.

OOC: I smacked down his navy in the Mediterranean Sea.

In other news.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity

BL you need to do a sarcastic response along the lines of this Wikipedia article.

I also did a number on his 13th fleet, well me and a few friends, in the Utopian Crusades in Nova Pictivia. It felt gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood.

OOC: Barely, CFEI. You took out two or three ships.

yea, well sunk maybe, I damaged at least 7-8.

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Office of the Praetor of Vetalia

This trial is nothing more than a kangaroo court that is an outpouring of these nations' vitriolic disdain for British Londinium and its actions around the world. No crime has been committed here, making this trial completely unnecessary and little more than a farce. The Londinians' response to the North Calaveras situation may have been extreme when viewed in hindsight, but when faced with potential nuclear attack the sole legitimate response is full on retaliation against the aggressor. They acted in a way that may ultimately have been entirely responsible, were we to examine the development of the situation to its fullest extent.

We stand by our ally in this matter and will not recognize the court's legitimacy or its attempt to subvert sovereign immunity in order for them to pursue their desires of revenge. The government of Vetalia, and I as its head, will stand firm with the Consul and his nation in the face of foreign attacks on their sovereignty and international reputation.

Regards,
Praetor Ivan Melnikov

Well said.

OOC: Barely, CFEI. You took out two or three ships.

OOC: I sank 23 or so. And are the Far Echo Islands a bunch of furries or something, because I've been itching to start a crusade soon.

OOC: They give citizenship to dolphins. That close enough?

OOC: Do their people have sex with dolphins? If no, then maybe. If yes, then absolutely.

OOC: They give citizenship to dolphins. That close enough?

OOC: I'll crusade away as soon as my allies return.

OOC: And I guess I can't join in, eh?

OOC: Do their people have sex with dolphins? If no, then maybe. If yes, then absolutely.

OOCish: Err, no, we never said that, and we don't do that. But there are several things to consider before doing this, well one big one, you mess with me, you mess with the UCRA, as well as the Hegemony, but well, the Hegemony didn't handle the NC thing too well, so I won't put a lot of money on them.

OOC: Yeah, they sort of went, "Holy shit, please don't glass us BL!!!!111one!1"

OOCish: Err, no, we never said that, and we don't do that. But there are several things to consider before doing this, well one big one, you mess with me, you mess with the UCRA, as well as the Hegemony, but well, the Hegemony didn't handle the NC thing too well, so I won't put a lot of money on them.

OOC: I didn't think so.

Yea, but that shit you pulled on NC was wrong, you coulda just nuked the cities and military bases. but no, you drop 120% of the fucking sun on them, what the fuck made you do that?

OOC: Because...I can. And, there's a certain amount of perverse pleasure I get from saying I dropped a fucking star on a country. ICly, though, the Consul was slowly cracking mentally, which is why he ordered such a massive attack.

OOC: Because...I can. And, there's a certain amount of perverse pleasure I get from saying I dropped a fucking star on a country. ICly, though, the Consul was slowly cracking mentally, which is why he ordered such a massive attack.

............

Yea, but that shit you pulled on NC was wrong, you coulda just nuked the cities and military bases. but no, you drop 120% of the fucking sun on them, what the fuck made you do that?

OOC: I bet you didnt even know that 12 gigatons was 120% of the sun's energy until i pointed it out, well, i think noone did..Hell volunteering to send in troops there rofl....

The Free Empire joins in the condemnation of this court, blah, blah, blah.

OOC: BL, I'd shudder to meet you in real life. The continued human rights abuses is making me suspicious that you're sadistic.

OOC: I bet you didnt even know that 12 gigatons was 120% of the sun's energy until i pointed it out, well, i think noone did..Hell volunteering to send in troops there rofl....

OOC: But thanks to the magic of PMT technology, it'll be cleaned up in a decade!

The Free Empire joins in the condemnation of this court, blah, blah, blah.

OOC: BL, I'd shudder to meet you in real life. The continued human rights abuses is making me suspicious that you're sadistic.

OOC: Just because I've had some evil rulers...

The Free Empire joins in the condemnation of this court, blah, blah, blah.

OOC: BL, I'd shudder to meet you in real life. The continued human rights abuses is making me suspicious that you're sadistic.

ooc: I know, blenders, dropping stars on countries, kinda makes you wonder about his sanity.

OOC: I bet you didnt even know that 12 gigatons was 120% of the sun's energy until i pointed it out, well, i think noone did..Hell volunteering to send in troops there rofl....

Well no, but I wasn't on the 10th or the 11th, so today was the first thing I got of this all.

OOC: Well, at any rate, all these questions about my sanity/sadism might make people slightly more hesitant to attack me.

OOC: Well, at any rate, all these questions about my sanity/sadism might make people slightly more hesitant to attack me.

*FIRES ZEE MISSILES!*

OOC: Ah crazy leaders. How the world would be boring without you...

OOC: Well, at any rate, all these questions about my sanity/sadism might make people slightly more hesitant to attack me.
ooc: Better be carefull about putting yourself on such a high horse, as it's a long fall off. And remove that "Proud member of ADAN" from your sig, right now, as you are no longer welcome in that alliance.

ooc: I know, blenders, dropping stars on countries, kinda makes you wonder about his sanity.

Kinda lost me there dude.

Kinda lost me there dude.

OOC: With nukes, he released one hundred twenty percent of the Sun's energy.

Ah, most of you people weren't around for the Kraven Corporation and/or Atopiana, were you? :p

OOC: But thanks to the magic of PMT technology, it'll be cleaned up in a decade!

true...

Ah, most of you people weren't around for the Kraven Corporation and/or Atopiana, were you? :p

obviously i havent, cause never even heard of them :D

OOC: With nukes, he released one hundred twenty percent of the Sun's energy.

The HDI's response to Nova Britannica was close to 80 gigatonnes. >.>

Although I stand as an outsider in this situation, I feel that even an outsider can see the logical conclusion of this burgeoning war, and hope to defuse it before another sun falls. Faxanavia wishes to insert, as well, it's condemnation of both the trials, as they are a breach of all rights of a country, but also wishes to condemn the nuclear actions of British Londinium. We feel that the only sane and logical solution is not war, but a strive for peace. British Londinium, surely you can see the ethical ramifications of a nuclear holocaust. We ask that you consider these in your future possible actions against Mesotarian. Mesotarian, realize that British Londinium is a super power, and that a country such as yours would not stand against it's might long. Thus, I ask of both of you to think on the situation, and to realize that a peaceful solution can be come to. In the words of Mahatma Ghandi, "You must become the change you want to see." And the change you should want to see is peace.

OOC: Yeah, I sound a little preachy there (read:alot), but the message I'm trying to get across is you really want to defuse this situation now, lest it become a violent and bloody nuclear conflict.

ooc: I know, blenders, dropping stars on countries, kinda makes you wonder about his sanity.
Actually makes me ask BL.
Are you Arabistan\Torontia\Kravania?

OOC: I wonder, if defying the realistic probability that dropping that many nuclear warheads on a fixed location would completely destroy the planet is okay, is defying the realistic probability that those warheads destroyed or killed any of a particular nation's citizens or military is considered equally fine practice?

Surely, if the realistically likelihood of the planet dying is ignored, North Calaveras could simply say that he had a copy nation locked within a dimensional pocket. The force of the nuclear blast forced the nation out of it's hole, and all is well again. Of course, B.L could fire another ridiculous sum of nuclear missiles at N.C, but if defying reality is the nature of N.S II as B.L has proven, surely N.C can form a creative counter measure that will allow his country to continue.

Thoughts?

OOC: I wonder, if defying the realistic probability that dropping that many nuclear warheads on a fixed location would completely destroy the planet is okay, is defying the realistic probability that those warheads destroyed or killed any of a particular nation's citizens or military is considered equally fine practice?

Surely, if the realistically likelihood of the planet dying is ignored, North Calaveras could simply say that he had a copy nation locked within a dimensional pocket. The force of the nuclear blast forced the nation out of it's hole, and all is well again. Of course, B.L could fire another ridiculous sum of nuclear missiles at N.C, but if defying reality is the nature of N.S II as B.L has proven, surely N.C can form a creative counter measure that will allow his country to continue.

Thoughts?

ooc: Well, if BL's strike could destroy the planet then it could had never happened anyway because Sovereign League nuked Nova Britannica with 93 gigatonnes(lot more than BL's 12), so we all should be dead for quite some time already. If that huge strike did not destroy the planet then there is no reason why BL's more than 7 times smaller attack should have done that.

Okay, but NS is clearly not completely earth. It is, a parallel earth. Who's to say their science does not function differently from ours?
Just throwing ideas out.

IC:

The Nationalist Republic condemns this faux attempt at trying a sovereign nation and it's ruler without carrying out the adequate measures to impose your law upon British Londinium's leader. Your right to enforce trial on Allistair Davidson shall only be recognized as legitimate if you fairly defeat the forces of his nation in combat, and incorporate it and it's people under Mesotarian law. Without such measures your means are empty of honor and we shall have no involvement but to chastise your sad attempt at feigned justice.

On the fate of North Calaveras, good riddance.

OOC:


Olmedreca;12965191']~snip~

My point wasn't that one nation dropped more than the other or that it couldn't or shouldn't have happened. I was merely pointing out the irony and hypocrisy of NationStates widely enforced unwritten realism policy.

Okay, but NS is clearly not completely earth. It is, a parallel earth. Who's to say their science does not function differently from ours?
Just throwing ideas out.

Exactly. With that said, if science works differently here for nuclear missiles than surely North Calveras can defy nature completely, as could any other nation in this scenario. After all it is a clearly not the same Earth, and this is freeform RP. If we can drop Sun's to extinguish nations, whose to say nations can't have demonic forces rape and pillage the invaders of said nations? Or unseen spirits spy on the secret gatherings between conspiring nations? That... that was my point.