NationStates Jolt Archive


Proposal For Prussian Amnesty (ATTN: NPE)

Blackhelm Confederacy
12-08-2007, 08:28
Nations of the New Prussian Alliance, I implore you to accept this offer of amnesty. This will not be around forever, and before you follow the path of many of your brethren, accept this offer. Already, three of your fellow Prussian nations have fallen to the Corporate war machine, and another has fled into neutrality and isolation. Even those who were set to lead you have turned against each other. Your alliance is drawing to an end, an end which you can avoid. Barokin, Grosse Reich, and The Crystal Mountains all believed that they would be saved when the larger nations of their alliance came to save them, but this did not happen, and now CA troopers march through their cities. Even the headquarters of your alliance is under siege. And, I warn you, this is not the end, as many more nations are preparing to mobilize forces shortly. Please, nations of the New Prussian Alliance, accept this offer of amnesty, or forever regret passing on it.

Sincerely,
Claudius Griffincrest, CEO, Griffincrest Oil Incorporated
Shakal
12-08-2007, 08:31
Nations of the New Prussian Alliance, I implore you to accept this offer of amnesty. This will not be around forever, and before you follow the path of many of your brethren, accept this offer. Already, three of your fellow Prussian nations have fallen to the Corporate war machine, and another has fled into neutrality and isolation. Even those who were set to lead you have turned against each other. Your alliance is drawing to an end, an end which you can avoid. Barokin, Grosse Reich, and The Crystal Mountains all believed that they would be saved when the larger nations of their alliance came to save them, but this did not happen, and now CA troopers march through their cities. Even the headquarters of your alliance is under siege. And, I warn you, this is not the end, as many more nations are preparing to mobilize forces shortly. Please, nations of the New Prussian Alliance, accept this offer of amnesty, or forever regret passing on it.

Sincerely,
Claudius Griffincrest, CEO, Griffincrest Oil Incorporated

Official Shakal Response

We are well aware of the advancves made by the CA. We are also aware that the fleets attacking the NPE HQ have been all but destroyed due to the Shakal navy. We however also are aware that if this war continues nothing will be gained and all will be lost for the Prussians. Therefore the Shakal Empire is willing to accept this offer and will bow to the honour shown by there enemies.

Empress Kristina Schraepl II
Die Zweiten Reich
12-08-2007, 08:41
Nations of the New Prussian Alliance, I implore you to accept this offer of amnesty. This will not be around forever, and before you follow the path of many of your brethren, accept this offer. Already, three of your fellow Prussian nations have fallen to the Corporate war machine, and another has fled into neutrality and isolation. Even those who were set to lead you have turned against each other. Your alliance is drawing to an end, an end which you can avoid. Barokin, Grosse Reich, and The Crystal Mountains all believed that they would be saved when the larger nations of their alliance came to save them, but this did not happen, and now CA troopers march through their cities. Even the headquarters of your alliance is under siege. And, I warn you, this is not the end, as many more nations are preparing to mobilize forces shortly. Please, nations of the New Prussian Alliance, accept this offer of amnesty, or forever regret passing on it.

Sincerely,
Claudius Griffincrest, CEO, Griffincrest Oil Incorporated


Official Reich Reply

The troops of Die Zweiten Reich have yet to properly engage the enemy. Although the Luftwaffe had performed well. The government of the Zweiten Reich is fully willing to accept this offer since we can suspect that our nation would be next on the list of those targeted for invasion.

Fuhrer Rommel
Gataway
12-08-2007, 08:49
ooc:BC check your TG's

IC:

Official Imperial Message

Due to recent internal strife amongst fellow alliance members it is for this reason and this reason only the Imperial government is forced to accept the offer of amnesty. The Imperial government is proud that its colonial defenses were never breached although the preservation of Imperial citizens must have the highest priority and to continue fighting the CA while the NPE itself is divided would be foolhardy.
Toopoxia
12-08-2007, 18:16
ooc:BC check your TG's

IC:

Official Imperial Message

Due to recent internal strife amongst fellow alliance members it is for this reason and this reason only the Imperial government is forced to accept the offer of amnesty. The Imperial government is proud that its colonial defenses were never breached although the preservation of Imperial citizens must have the highest priority and to continue fighting the CA while the NPE itself is divided would be foolhardy.

(OOC: Hey Gat, I just woke up so sorryf or the confusion but does that mean you're no longer fighting the CA? If so I'll fall back my forces.)
The World Soviet Party
12-08-2007, 19:04
OOC: This is certainly a turn-over, guess I'll have to change the head-lines to "CA, to the Victor go the spoils"
Amazonian Beasts
12-08-2007, 19:08
OOC: Lawd, you surrendering people are making me sad I joined the NPE...
The PeoplesFreedom
12-08-2007, 20:08
ooc: There is an announcement on the regional boards for the NPE.
Kampfers
12-08-2007, 21:51
Official Kampferian Statement
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Kampfers will never surrender to you foolish dogs. As I send this message, we continue to annihialte the Undershi fleet sent to destroy us. More and more allies join the fray in our favor. While you held the initial momentum, it has long since swung in our favor. No, we will not end this war. Not until you dogs are on your knees, begging for mercy. Not until the blood of every noble Prussian that died has been avenged. Then, we may find peace. But until that day, we will stand and fight! A day may come when the enemies of the Prussians are victorius, when the Germanic Culture is no more. But Kampfers will never surrender. Kampfers will stand and fight, down to the very last man, each man fighting for the nation he loves, for his wife and children. Kampfers will not throw down her arms so lightly. No. Take your offer, you vile scum, and flee, for that is the only thing that can save you now. Do not expect us to surrender like you did at San Gallia. We fight with the honor of Prussians, we fight with the power of God. Soon, you too will experience the wrath of the Prussians, much like several of your alliance members already have.

Fuhrer Richtoff

OOC: Don't gloat over your victories BC. Metagaming was used on Barokin, and CCM would have stayed alive if he hadn't been a pansy.
Toopoxia
12-08-2007, 22:05
Snip

(OOC: Ummm, you guys surrendered at Saan Gali, Wanderjar himself said something like "We had to pull out at Saan Gali" )
The PeoplesFreedom
12-08-2007, 22:06
(OOC: Ummm, you guys surrendered at Saan Gali, Wanderjar himself said something like "We had to pull out at Saan Gali" )

OOC: We retconned it. Two different things.
The PeoplesFreedom
12-08-2007, 22:11
Confederation Statement
We stand by our Kampferian brothers. Despite our civil war, our factions have come together to form the Prussian Defense Confederation. You have so angered the factions that they have come together once again to crush you scum. Our civil war can wait later. The CA can't. Even now, Deserted Terrorities is under attack, even now, we plan our invasion of Undershi. Even now, your fleet is surrounded by three armadas, each representing a different nation, all under one banner, all ready to destroy you. Prepare to be crushed, for we will offer no mercy at all. We will not rest until you are completly defeated, until you beg for mercy, and when you do beg, we will not grant you it. For we will have Victory or we will have Death.
Toopoxia
12-08-2007, 22:12
OOC: We retconned it. Two different things.

(OOC: See now that's what I had thought, and I was totally accepting of that, but then Wandy made that post and so I unretconned it, but hey, I'll have it retconned again)
1010102
12-08-2007, 23:20
The Binarian Empire shall never lie down and take your offer. We shall extend a counter-offer to the Corporate Allaince. Our empire will give an offer of five-hundred-thousand Binarian dollars to every soilder, sailor and airman that surrenders to binarian focres. For all Officers the offer is five million per person, and a will be able to live out there lives in safety and luxury.


OOC: the only reason the CCM is occupied is because Nero threeated to nuke me over a Ballistic missile attack overwise he would have his island back.
Maldorians
12-08-2007, 23:31
OOC: Don't gloat over your victories BC. Metagaming was used on Barokin, and CCM would have stayed alive if he hadn't been a pansy.

OOC: Only half true. Go ask Barokin and he will say that he surrendered peacfully *another word better?*. I may have convinced him but all I really said was that the CA was better. I didn't threathen to murder him or somethin'. :p
Toopoxia
12-08-2007, 23:38
The Binarian Empire shall never lie down and take your offer. We shall extend a counter-offer to the Corporate Allaince. Our empire will give an offer of five-hundred-thousand Binarian dollars to every soilder, sailor and airman that surrenders to binarian focres. For all Officers the offer is five million per person, and a will be able to live out there lives in safety and luxury.


OOC: the only reason the CCM is occupied is because Nero threeated to nuke me over a Ballistic missile attack overwise he would have his island back.

(OOC: You realise that you've essentially just commited NS suicide, if my entire military surrenders to your forces then I would have just liberated you of £8,937,500,000 that would anihilate your peoples trust in your goverment and give me a little extra cash to help out my CA buddies.)
1010102
13-08-2007, 00:23
(OOC: You realise that you've essentially just commited NS suicide, if my entire military surrenders to your forces then I would have just liberated you of £8,937,500,000 that would anihilate your peoples trust in your goverment and give me a little extra cash to help out my CA buddies.)

OOC: The plan is that they come to my country to get it, we kill them and take the money back keeping an endless cycle.
Maldorians
13-08-2007, 00:29
OOC: The plan is that they come to my country to get it, we kill them and take the money back keeping an endless cycle.

OOC: But what if you get scammed, like the soldiers send money back home or just take the money and high-tail out of there?
Toopoxia
13-08-2007, 00:34
OOC: The plan is that they come to my country to get it, we kill them and take the money back keeping an endless cycle.

(OOC: So you've created a plan that'll last two, three times, tops, I believe it constitutes a warcrime, in which case we are fully within our rights to deploy as much CK gas over your nation to choke every man woman and child, so do so as you please but this time, it'll be your guys trapped in a cyro chamber on the other end of the galaxy.)
1010102
13-08-2007, 00:49
OOC: But what if you get scammed, like the soldiers send money back home or just take the money and high-tail out of there?

OOC: place it bank acounts in my nation bring up a law saying you can't wire it to nations that we are currently at war with.
Leafanistan
13-08-2007, 01:13
OOC: place it bank acounts in my nation bring up a law saying you can't wire it to nations that we are currently at war with.

You aren't at war with Leafanistan, Allanea and several other nations that have some of the loosest banks on earth.
Emperor Nero
13-08-2007, 01:26
The Binarian Empire shall never lie down and take your offer. We shall extend a counter-offer to the Corporate Allaince. Our empire will give an offer of five-hundred-thousand Binarian dollars to every soilder, sailor and airman that surrenders to binarian focres. For all Officers the offer is five million per person, and a will be able to live out there lives in safety and luxury.

OOC: the only reason the CCM is occupied is because Nero threeated to nuke me over a Ballistic missile attack overwise he would have his island back.

OOC:
I usually try to be friendly with the folks I role-play with, but since you want to keep bringing this up, I got to say my piece.

Your ability to defeat me is not a given. In our brief encounter, I did not leave impressed by your mad skillz. I got the opposite impression. You began our war by firing ICBM's that didn't even have half the range required to reach me. Some of those very same GPS guided ICBM's were supposed to hit my ships. Only rookies use GPS guided munitions to attack moving targets. All I had to do was change the GPS coordinates of my fleet (a.k.a. move) to cause your ICBM's to miss.

When a nation fires ICBM's at me, my natural response is to threaten a strike of my own. That is how real nations behave. They don't wait around for enemy ICBM's to hit their targets to see what sort of warheads they are carrying. They expect the worst, and react accordingly. Good role-players try to behave like real nations would. Had I behaved differently, it would have been because I was using OOC knowledge IC, and that is a big “no no”.

As I wanted the opportunity to repel you at my shores, I flat out told you OOC what sort of response to expect from an ICBM launch. You had every opportunity to reconsider your actions, but didn't because you mistakenly believed your ICBM attack had me on the ropes. I accepted your missile launch, and reacted accordingly. It is not my fault you are unhappy with the results when I flat out told you what they would be in advance.

Speaking of behaving like real nations.... why is the person that nuked TPF's capital considered less of a threat than the CA (who just offered peace)?
Toopoxia
13-08-2007, 01:29
Speaking of behaving like real nations.... why is the person that nuked TPF's capital considered less of a threat than the CA (who just offered peace)?

(OOC: 'Cos TPF nuked TPF's Capitol.)
Maldorians
13-08-2007, 01:35
Speaking of behaving like real nations.... why is the person that nuked TPF's capital considered less of a threat than the CA (who just offered peace)?

OOC: Dude, I was JUST talking about that. They nuke each other and they BAM they decide to be friends to stop the CA. That makes 0 sense.

EDIT: Toops, it was like half of TPF invaded Wanderjar! Then they just...stopped...
Shakal
13-08-2007, 01:48
Official Shakal Response

We are well aware of the advancves made by the CA. We are also aware that the fleets attacking the NPE HQ have been all but destroyed due to the Shakal navy. We however also are aware that if this war continues nothing will be gained and all will be lost for the Prussians. Therefore the Shakal Empire is willing to accept this offer and will bow to the honour shown by there enemies.

Empress Kristina Schraepl II

The Shakal Empire herby recalls its surrender. News coming from TPF has changed our minds in this matter.
Die Zweiten Reich
13-08-2007, 01:53
Official Reich Reply

The troops of Die Zweiten Reich have yet to properly engage the enemy. Although the Luftwaffe had performed well. The government of the Zweiten Reich is fully willing to accept this offer since we can suspect that our nation would be next on the list of those targeted for invasion.

Fuhrer Rommel


The Fuhrer Rommel hereby also cancels this offer due to news coming from TPF at this moment.
New Manth
13-08-2007, 02:01
OOC: Friends can overlook the odd insult, ideological rift or nuclear attack, right? ;)

Also Shakal & Zweiten Reich are you the same person?
Kampfers
13-08-2007, 02:13
OOC: Friends can overlook the odd insult, ideological rift or nuclear attack, right? ;)

Also Shakal & Zweiten Reich are you the same person?

OOC: BF and GF, unless something else has happened today.
Amazonian Beasts
13-08-2007, 03:09
OOC: Why don't we stop trying to prove our Cyberballs OOCly and take it to the IC? Seriously, the OOC arguing is retarded.
1010102
13-08-2007, 03:40
snip

OOC: What you have to understand is the size and scope of NS earth, some estimates put it at any where from neptune, to jupiter. So from nations to have ballistic missiles they have to have ones with long range. So the ones I fired would be considered the same as scuds. Also, how would you know if they are ICBMs right away with out IC knowledge, so if we are going for Realism in this, then you shouldn't know what they are and all you know is that a lot of missiles are headed your way. If everybody RPed like that every ballistic missile attack would be responded to with nukes. Everything in NS is bigger than RL. NS earth is bigger so the missile required to reach each other must be bigger that ius why I called them superscuds.
Tartarystan
13-08-2007, 07:11
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Official Communique of the Most Serene and Holy Altaic Empire of Tartarystan

The Most Serene and Holy Altaic Empire of Tartarystan would advise the Prussian nations to accept this offer of amnesty. We believe that it will be a fair peace that will prevent further bloodshed.
Undershi
13-08-2007, 16:30
The Empire of Undershi would like to urge the New Prussian Empire to see reason and seek peace. Further bloodshed would benefit no one - the Corporate Alliance and the New Prussian Empire are more alike than different. We have so much more to fear from the socialists and their ilk than from each other - would it not be better if we both united into one great alliance to strke against world socialism? So it seems to us at any rate.

To The Peoples Freedom and their minions - those who would invade Undershi itself will bleed for their careless pride. Undershi will never fall, so long as a single True Undershi draws breath. Every True Undershi is trained as a soldier - if you invade, you will have to face the full might of a nation. We welcome you to attempt to assault our shores - our gunners need practice at their work, and slaughtering your troops should be more than sufficient to remind them of how their work is done.

So we say - fight on if you will - it will only lead to bloodshed and to death. Undershi is prepared for war. Ask No_State_At_All what it was like when they invaded - they were forced back, and the descendents of the prisoners we took from their invasion force now labor for the glory of the Undershi Empire, and that was back when the liberal factions of the Undershi government were strong enough to betray us and distract us from our goal. We are strong now, and unified. We wait for invasion with patience, not with fear.

But there does not need to be another great blood-letting - we have no stomach for senseless slaughter when it is not necessary. So we encourage you - take this peace, save the lives of your soldiers. Unite with us against the communists and the socialists. Free nations of the New Prussian Empire, do not waste your strength fighting nations very much like your own. The only people who benefit when we fight are our true enemies, the savage socialist hordes who even now gnaw at your alliance. Do not let them become strong! Unite with us and drive off the communist wolves! Take this offer, cease this useless struggle!

It is all we can do to make this appeal. You are the ones who must either take it or waste the lives of your men in a war brought upon us all by Wanderjar which even now reveals its true colors as a communist nation, a threat to all the capitalist nations of the world. Do not fight for Wanderjar and the socialists, do not fight so that they might overwhelm your nation with their Red cause. Come over to your true allies. Take this offer and join us to defeat the true enemy. Take this offer now, before it is too late!
Emperor Nero
13-08-2007, 17:55
Having finished reading his daily intelligence reports, the Emperor crumpled the last sheet of paper he had read, and threw it at a random servant. Accustomed the the Emperor's minor outbreaks, the servant girl calmly picked up the piece of paper and continued about her business.

The Emperor was angry. Three New Prussian nations had agreed to peace with the Corporate Alliance, only to renege a short while later under pressure from TPF.

"The NPE apparently feels they can agree to a treaty one moment then break it the next. If this is the sort of behavior we should expect from these honorless heathens, our own treaty with them clearly is not worth the paper it is printed on.

Increase our Crystal Island garrison by 50% at once, and redeploy every warship we can spare to the region.

Now, Mr. Lo, tell me about Die Zweiten Reich. I want to hear about their resources."

The Emperor smiled. Perhaps today would be a good day after all.
Neo-Erusea
13-08-2007, 18:14
OOC: What you have to understand is the size and scope of NS earth, some estimates put it at any where from neptune, to jupiter. So from nations to have ballistic missiles they have to have ones with long range. So the ones I fired would be considered the same as scuds. Also, how would you know if they are ICBMs right away with out IC knowledge, so if we are going for Realism in this, then you shouldn't know what they are and all you know is that a lot of missiles are headed your way. If everybody RPed like that every ballistic missile attack would be responded to with nukes. Everything in NS is bigger than RL. NS earth is bigger so the missile required to reach each other must be bigger that ius why I called them superscuds.

Yeah, but no one RP's that. honestly, imagine a fleet doing 30 knots. No way it will ever get from point A to point B if the distance between them would take three months in a space shuttle doing 60,000 kilometers an hour inside of several lifetimes...
Gataway
13-08-2007, 18:44
Yeah, but no one RP's that. honestly, imagine a fleet doing 30 knots. No way it will ever get from point A to point B if the distance between them would take three months in a space shuttle doing 60,000 kilometers an hour inside of several lifetimes...

I rp that way...thats why I wait a full day or 1 NS year... Usually I wait several hours equating to a few NS months when I deploy my fleets...also thats why I don't launch invasions really anywhere far from the region as the logistics of supply an invasion force for any nation on NS would be next to impossible regardless of how many trillions of dollars you have in your defense budget supplying enough food equipment and ammo etc etc over hundreds of thousands of miles would quickly drain your defense budget and quickly cripple the economy..but NS is wanked to biblical proportions...fleets of 10k+ ships...insane amounts of ground forces...Corporations and terrorist cells that have armies capable of matching an actual standing military force in a "developed" country..its all wanked..
Neo-Erusea
13-08-2007, 18:56
I rp that way...thats why I wait a full day or 1 NS year... Usually I wait several hours equating to a few NS months when I deploy my fleets...

-snips-



Uhh... Yeah... A year? You think that an armada of modern warships travelling a good 30 knots will travel the distance from Earth to Mars in a year? Now let's take into effect the landmasses and the navigation that most take place.

People don't RP that crap because if it was like reality getting from Neo-Erusea to Gataway will take lifetimes... Let's not forget the gravity of the planet this size... It's just not possible to RP the NS Earth being so huge.
Gataway
13-08-2007, 19:20
NS earth is hardly the size of the distance between Earth and Mars...thats the most ludicrous statement I've ever heard on here..and I've been in NS General several times...and I dont typically wait a year...I wait several hours or several NS months
Neo-Erusea
13-08-2007, 19:41
OOC: What you have to understand is the size and scope of NS earth, some estimates put it at any where from neptune, to jupiter. So from nations to have ballistic missiles they have to have ones with long range. So the ones I fired would be considered the same as scuds. Also, how would you know if they are ICBMs right away with out IC knowledge, so if we are going for Realism in this, then you shouldn't know what they are and all you know is that a lot of missiles are headed your way. If everybody RPed like that every ballistic missile attack would be responded to with nukes. Everything in NS is bigger than RL. NS earth is bigger so the missile required to reach each other must be bigger that ius why I called them superscuds.

XD Tell that to 1010102...
Amazonian Beasts
13-08-2007, 22:17
Of course, this is fluid time, people...

And 1010102...um, I'm not sure how far a SCUD could go on Jupiter with Jupiter's gravity...
1010102
13-08-2007, 22:21
Of course, this is fluid time, people...

And 1010102...um, I'm not sure how far a SCUD could go on Jupiter with Jupiter's gravity...

that is one of the many mysteries of NS earth. and when I say from neptune to jupiter, I mean szie not distance between.

NS erath some how has RL earth gravity.