NationStates Jolt Archive


A State Of War!!!!

Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 21:20
War has been declared against Multiland for their death threat.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 21:26
i telegramed you comrade Mestorian.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 21:44
we will aid you comrade, just join us.
Shazbotdom
11-08-2007, 22:28
OOC:
So your declaring war on someone for something that happens all the time?
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 22:30
um.. maybe
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 22:33
CLASSIFIED MESSAGE SENT TO MESTORIAN
Comrade Mestorian, we will respond by giving you nuclear SRBM, and suppliing your military with 30,000 SOL T-62 tanks, including a couple of air strikes on your enemys airfields
Shazbotdom
11-08-2007, 22:34
um.. maybe

OOC:
So if I threatened your leader, you'd declar war up on me? Hmmz.
British Londinium
11-08-2007, 22:41
"I'm going to kill the leader of Mesotarian, rip his brains out of his skull, and nail them to my office door. I will proceed to use his intestines as a grotesque boa; his major organs will be blended into a delicious smoothie which I will forcefeed to his spouse," said a senior Londinian government official.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 22:42
dont get any ideas smart guy

i just got a telegram from a 'new freind' saying he donated a nuke and 30,000 tanks. I need all the firepower i can get to wage war with Multiland.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 22:43
LOL, great threat
British Londinium
11-08-2007, 22:44
I've got thirty thousand nukes, and a plethora of giant blenders I can put your people in. Bring it.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 22:46
hey now dont get me involved in that, that's dangerous for me to lol, you need to calm down, just come over to the SOL and me and you can talk about some things.
Central Prestonia
11-08-2007, 22:47
I've got thirty thousand nukes, and a plethora of giant blenders I can put your people in. Bring it.
OOC: Bad BL! No blenders!
Enraged Goblins
11-08-2007, 22:51
"WHUT? Dat friggin' wussy pinko human finks dat if'n sumbody's freatenin' 'im an' stuff 'e just gets ta' freak out n' start chuckin' bombs? Hoomies' 'r freakin' crazy. I oughta fukkin' cut out 'is intestines 'n shove 'em up 'is nose, da bluddy pansy-ass troll-humpin' peda'phile. I bet 'e dun't e'en knows how ta fire a bluddy gun inna straight line. Th' bastid."
Kork Cant Think of a Name Because Those Five Sparks Bastards Stole Our Name
Damirez
11-08-2007, 22:51
From: Emilian Davout, Foreign Minister
To: Mesotarian
Subject: Recent situation.

We wish to express our concern regarding the beligerant attitude of your government and remind you that the game of politics often involves situation such as that which represents the cause of this war.

We advise reconsideration as nothing good comes out of a war. Do you really want to send your people to their deaths?

Best Regards,
Emilian Davout.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 22:52
i telegramed you Mestorian
Ravea
11-08-2007, 22:52
Ravea pledges to stand by Multiland, and kindly asks Mesotarian to be the better nation and stand down. Otherwise we may be forced to destroy you.

Have a nice day!
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 22:54
TO: ALL NATIONS INVOLVED IN THIS

We are trying to cool the situation, please stand down.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 22:55
YES! il make an example out of him
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 22:57
NO WAIT I TAKE THAT BACK!! i dont want to fight more than one nation

crap, lets talk about this
Enraged Goblins
11-08-2007, 22:59
Awwww, der li'l pansy wants tae talk. Bah! We waz hopin' fer a good fight. Im goin' home, ye'r all a big dissapointment, ya know?
Kork Cant Think of a Name Because Those Five Sparks Bastards Stole Our Name
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 22:59
good, we will talk about this.
Damirez
11-08-2007, 23:01
OOC: Not to alarm you or anything, but you did realize when you made this statement that Multiland has at least 4x more soldiers than you have people?
Ravea
11-08-2007, 23:03
NO WAIT I TAKE THAT BACK!! i dont want to fight more than one nation

crap, lets talk about this

There will not be any talk. Mutiland is a esteemed and long-time friend of Ravea; Mesotarian will stand down it's troops, or risk possible destruction.

It's your choice.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:04
thats why im trying to get more forces from my region to join me.

but i guess il ask multivan for a peace treaty, stopping the war that lasted several hours and that had no casualties
Enraged Goblins
11-08-2007, 23:05
The second one! Pick the second one!
Kork Cant Think of a Name Because Those Five Sparks Bastards Stole Our Name
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:05
telegram comrade mestorian
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:09
good news everyone,

i just wired a request for a treaty, and now to make an official opology for my quick and barely planned actions.

umm...

im sorry
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:10
Whoa people! No need to start a war. This is a code noob thread, I repeat CODE NOOB! :)

CODE NOOB- when a new player goes to war with a country a billion times its size, not knowing the after effects of a war, such as being a territory of the nation it went to war with.

Seriously Mesotarian, not the best idea when your country is minutes old.
Shazbotdom
11-08-2007, 23:10
SECRET IC:
SCENE: 4th HAVOC Naval Battle Group
New orders were recieved. They were to head towards the direction of Mesotorian and set up 150 Kilometers off of their shore and prepare for any conflict that might occur. They would launch any Anti-SRBM's they had to help protect the Soverignty of the Nation of Multiland from a nation that seems more bent on murder than anything else.

"I want all ships prepared for battle in case it is needed. Do Battle Station tests every 6 hours, even throughout the night," said Rear Admiral Grenith. His 40 years in the service made him battle hardened and prepared him for any conflict that he had run across.

The ships then begun their first Battle Stations test...
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:11
stand down Shazabottom, its cool now
Enraged Goblins
11-08-2007, 23:12
Bah.
Kork Cant Think of a Name Because Those Five Sparks Bastards Stole Our Name
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:12
umm, how about no and you tell your troops to go home to see their wives and children.

wheres the love?
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:13
reply to my telegram comrade.
Greal
11-08-2007, 23:16
Mesotarian, that is not a good idea to attack a country way bigger then you.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:16
we cool now?
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:17
Mestorian, i dont think your alliance will help you, i dont think there rpers, so if you have war, your on your own. SOL will bring your military power up 200%, and greal it's cool to see you again, i made a post in the SOL.
Greal
11-08-2007, 23:21
Mestorian, i dont think your alliance will help you, i dont think there rpers, so if you have war, your on your own. SOL will bring your military power up 200%, and greal it's cool to see you again, i made a post in the SOL.


I responded to it.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:22
is it all over? is the situation over? can get out from behind my desk now?
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:24
Yes, you can come out now from under your desk
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:25
Mestorian, i dont want you to get hurt, i embraced Greal when he was young, now he is strong, doing the same will make you much more powerful.
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:26
exactly what led up to this incident in the first place?
Greal
11-08-2007, 23:27
NC, I Tg you.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:27
maybe i should just do something stupid to make thngs worse :D
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:27
maybe i should just do something stupid to make thngs worse :D

seems to be working for you so far :p
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:28
well, multiland made a threat and i responded to it by declaring war

so far...

-no casulties
-no nuclear exchance
-continuing death threats from multiland's allies
Alnwickland
11-08-2007, 23:29
I'm up for joining in some war!
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:30
well, multiland made a threat and i responded to it by declaring war

so far...

-no casulties
-no nuclear exchance
-continuing death threats from multiland's allies


hmmmmmmm


sounds like you're leaving something out

exactly what did you say to make multiland threaten you?
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:30
Mestorian, if you have a war, i will invade you and you will be consumed by me, im not trying to hurt you, but it would be better if i did it than one of them.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:30
ah, S#%$

maybe i should pack my backs and be ready to run away! :(
Shazbotdom
11-08-2007, 23:31
maybe i should just do something stupid to make thngs worse :D

OOC:
I wouldn't do that. I got a battlegroup of 200 shipsoff your shoreline, ready to strike.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:32
maybe i should nuke your battle fleet?

NOTE: yes, I did just did something stupid :D
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:32
OOC:
I wouldn't do that. I got a battlegroup of 200 shipsoff your shoreline, ready to strike.

ooc: oh come now, leave him be, he meant no real harm



he also poses no real harm too : )
Damirez
11-08-2007, 23:33
I'm up for joining in some war!


OOC: Oh for crying out loud do you people actually have a death wish? Just do this simple math: 1% x Multiland VS Your Entire population.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:34
you have no Nukes mestorian, they would only arrive if you joined me.
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:36
you have no Nukes mestorian, they would only arrive if you joined me.

do you really think it wise to hand over nukes to a nation who has proven to be irrational on such an unbelievably brazen level?
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:37
Tactical Nuke Launching Complex

3000 Hrs
300 miles south of Mesotarian's capital

The giant Nuclear Missile slowly Rises from the Under Ground Launch Pad.
Steam jets out of the rocket ready for the nuclear holocaust.
The nuclear weapon is ready for launch.

NOTE: im continuing to be stupid, this is fun :D
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:38
im ignoring your nukes, cause you have none, if you dont stop this nonesense im going to invade you comrade.(im just looking for an excuse to spread the red war machine.
Greal
11-08-2007, 23:39
I support North Calaveras on this Issue.
Damirez
11-08-2007, 23:39
do you really think it wise to hand over nukes to a nation who has proven to be irrational on such an unbelievably brazen level?

I submit to that. Not to mention the backslash such a decision will have for the country that delivers such weapons to irresponsible governments.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:40
I have one, just one

and i have a small uranium mine, its an outstanding issue
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:42
I submit to that. Not to mention the backslash such a decision will have for the country that delivers such weapons to irresponsible governments.

most sensible of you


whoever defeats Mesotarian should include a "nonproliferation" clause in the surrender treaty


no nukes should be given to that nation until MAJOR regime change is made
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:43
aww, dont complain at the guy who gave me the nuke. It was just a gift for me to join his region. :(
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:44
aww, dont complain at the guy who gave me the nuke. It was just a gift for me to join his region. :(

and you're being blatantly irresponsible with it


shame on you
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:44
Tactical Nuke Launching Complex

3000 Hrs
300 miles south of Mesotarian's capital

The giant Nuclear Missile slowly Rises from the Under Ground Launch Pad.
Steam jets out of the rocket ready for the nuclear holocaust.
The nuclear weapon is ready for launch.

NOTE: im continuing to be stupid, this is fun :D

If you had nukes right now, your country would be in about a billion dollar deficet right now, you can't have nukes until your nation is about 500mil, or if NC gives you the nukes.

Are you in our region right now?
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:45
Mestorian, be smart, stand down, please join us and you will have the power you so desperatly hunger for, of course there will be some rules.
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:46
umm... now since your ganging up on me. Im considering shutting up
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:46
Mestorian, be smart, stand down, please join us and you will have the power you so desperatly hunger for, of course there will be some rules.

pray tell, exactly how do you expect to enforce those rules with the behavior he as exhibited before you today?
Damirez
11-08-2007, 23:46
whoever defeats Mesotarian should include a "nonproliferation" clause in the surrender treaty


no nukes should be given to that nation until MAJOR regime change is made

Agreed. I would go as far as forbidding them to fiddle with anything remotely nuclear.

And I don't believe that the solution to this crisis is them getting occupied by the same nation that wanted to give them nukes in the first place.
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:47
Mestorian, be smart, stand down, please join us and you will have the power you so desperatly hunger for, of course there will be some rules.

Yes NC, lay down the rules, BEFORE the nukes............
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:47
pray tell, exactly how do you expect to enforce those rules with the behavior he as exhibited before you today?

He's got a point
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:48
Agreed. I would go as far as forbidding them to fiddle with anything remotely nuclear.

And I don't believe that the solution to this crisis is them getting occupied by the same nation that wanted to give them nukes in the first place.


i fully agree with you



.......but at the current moment i have neither the patience nor the will to invade him by myself, and I think the only person even remotely considering an invasion is perhaps NC

so the problem remains......
Ravea
11-08-2007, 23:48
Ravea would like to inform all parties involved in this ill-fated military adventure that any nation that resorts to violence will be dealt with accordingly with extreme military prejudice. We at Ravea would rather have peaceful talks rather than a pathetic slugfest.

The Ravean Nuclear Trade Authority also demands that Mesotarian hand over any nuclear devices or arsenals; such weapons should not be placed in the hands of small nations under the rule of despots. That is, if Mesotarian has any weapon to begin with; credible evidence supports this theory. Ravea is also considering restricting all assess to any Mesotarian uranium mines, unless Mesotarian would be so kind to use such a mine for peaceful purposes only.

~Ravean Authority
Greal
11-08-2007, 23:48
Mesotarian, your country is to small to make nukes, until you gotten a bigger economy.
Shazbotdom
11-08-2007, 23:48
I have one, just one

and i have a small uranium mine, its an outstanding issue

OOC:
Yeah. You may have just "one". But lets see. I've RPed having several, including satelites in orbit with nuclear weapons on them. Do you really want hundreds of nuclear warheads wiping your nation of the map? I wouldn't RP launching any nukes at my battlegroup, as they have Anti-BM capabilities and your One Lone Nuke wouldn't do crap to them.
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:49
umm... now since your ganging up on me. Im considering shutting up

Were not ganging up on you, the war hasn't (and hopefuly wont) started yet.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:49
1. your army will be shared with the SONS OF LENIN, as we will share ours with you in time of war.
2. your nuclear stockpile will be supervised and you may not have over 10 nuclear icbms, unless you prove you are stable then you may get more.
3. you become a communist regime.
4.you MUST provide military support for us in time of war.
5. you will not be allowed to go to war without my permission, if you do this, you will be expelled and i will forcefully take your countrys military power.
6.if you leave you will be force to reduce your ICBM stockpile by 80%
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:49
He's got a point

I respect your nation, and NC's


so I am appealing to you in the name of the international community and in all of humanity, do NOT give this fledgling nation any nuclear weapons

he is, at BEST, a rogue nation bent on some form of conflict and bloodshed

giving him a nuclear weapon would only formulate certain disaster
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:51
fine fine....


ugh....


The Nuclear Weapons Ban of Mesotarian

For the benifit of my people, my country, and to the enviroment, I submit this treaty saying...

-I will not use nuclear weapons
-I will not threat others with nuclear weapons
-I will only use future nuclear weapons for MAD in retalition
-Nuclear weapons reasearch shall stop
-The uranium in my country shall be used for nuclear power only

Please except this treaty as I utterly regret all actions that have been preformed these past hours.

Thank You
Damirez
11-08-2007, 23:52
I respect your nation, and NC's


so I am appealing to you in the name of the international community and in all of humanity, do NOT give this fledgling nation any nuclear weapons

he is, at BEST, a rogue nation bent on some form of conflict and bloodshed

giving him a nuclear weapon would only formulate certain disaster

We endorse this position. Under no circumstances should this nation be allowed to posses WMDs.


Edit: Due to recent developments we believe that the nuclear crisis has ended.
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:52
fine fine....


ugh....


The Nuclear Weapons Ban of Mesotarian

For the benifit of my people, my country, and to the enviroment, I submit this treaty saying...

-I will not use nuclear weapons
-I will not threat others with nuclear weapons
-I will only use future nuclear weapons for MAD in retalition
-Nuclear weapons reasearch shall stop
-The uranium in my country shall be used for nuclear power only

Please except this treaty as I utterly regret all actions that have been preformed these past hours.

Thank You


this treaty is worthless as long as the current government that began this thread in the first place remains in power
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:53
ive stated my terms, will you accept comrade Mestorian?
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:54
I feel like an Ass having my nation called rouge

I actually feel guilty

WHY AM I SOO SENSITIVE!!!
Greal
11-08-2007, 23:54
Greal has 45,000 nukes to wipe him out if needed,

North Calaveras, I don't think it is a good idea to give a nuke, some military secrets to him might be fine.
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:54
We endorse this position. Under no circumstances should this nation be allowed to posses WMDs.

Damirez, I thank you for your endorsement and continued cooperative deliberations


Is there something that my nation can do for you at this time?
One World Alliance
11-08-2007, 23:55
I feel like an Ass having my nation called rouge

I actually feel guilty

WHY AM I SOO SENSITIVE!!!

this guy does NOT need ANY nuclear weapons, regardless of whatever stipulations are placed on him


i mean come on


READ HIS POSTS for crying out loud
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:55
Comrade Mestorian, DO YOU ACCEPT
Mesotarian
11-08-2007, 23:55
Plz, il give my word that il never use nuclear weapons unless someone (responsible) says other wise. Plz PLZ!!

I ask for mercy and forgiveness

That treaty is official
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:56
Mestorian, your annoying me now, answer.
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:57
3. you become a communist regime.


Huh? you let me join and im a New York Times Democracy
Ravea
11-08-2007, 23:57
fine fine....


ugh....


The Nuclear Weapons Ban of Mesotarian

For the benifit of my people, my country, and to the enviroment, I submit this treaty saying...

-I will not use nuclear weapons
-I will not threat others with nuclear weapons
-I will only use future nuclear weapons for MAD in retalition
-Nuclear weapons reasearch shall stop
-The uranium in my country shall be used for nuclear power only

Please except this treaty as I utterly regret all actions that have been preformed these past hours.

Thank You

Ravea sees this treaty as quite satisfactory. We hope to continue friendly and beneficial diplomatic relations with Mesotarian in the future.

However, Ravea feels very strongly about North Calaveras entrusting Mesotarian with any nuclear arms, and threatens trade restrictions and possible (but improbable) military action against North Calaveras if the nation chooses to supply such arms.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:57
ya, but your an ally, AND you are a democracy, that means you got the Communist party.
North Calaveras
11-08-2007, 23:58
Ravea, any aggression towards me will result in nuclear retaliation, i dont want war, I WANT MESTORIAN.
Zoingo
11-08-2007, 23:59
Greal has 45,000 nukes to wipe him out if needed,


Nice
One World Alliance
12-08-2007, 00:00
Ravea, any aggression towards me will result in nuclear retaliation, i dont want war, I WANT MESTORIAN.

what could this nation possibly benefit you to make you pursue his allegiance in such a way, even to the point of promising nuclear weapons despite his obvious irresponsibility?
Greal
12-08-2007, 00:00
Zoingo, I TG you.
Damirez
12-08-2007, 00:00
Damirez, I thank you for your endorsement and continued cooperative deliberations


Is there something that my nation can do for you at this time?

Not in particular, though further cooperation and closer ties are wanted by my government.

You might want to establish an embassy with us and with our alliance for better communication.

Hopefully the next time our governments come together it will not be in a crisis.


Regardless, our government is worried about the attitude of North Calaveras.


OOC: Links in my sig.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:01
ya, but your an ally, AND you are a democracy, that means you got the Communist party.

I was never communist, or are you saying that since im an ally that i fufill that part, regardless.
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 00:01
arg, i cant take this anymore, i am now moving under the protection of the SON OF LENION!

i want to close this thread eventually

The irony is that Multiland, partially the start of this, hasnt used this thread yet
One World Alliance
12-08-2007, 00:02
Not in particular, though further cooperation and closer ties are wanted by my government.

You might want to establish an embassy with us and with our alliance for better communication.

Hopefully the next time our governments come together it will not be in a crisis.


Regardless, our government is worried about the attitude of North Calaveras.


OOC: Links in my sig.

we shall talk about this in greater detail later. I must depart shortly. I'll tg you
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:02
good comrade, i will rp your goods being sent, and equipment. and you did fufill your part Zoingo.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:03
Zoingo, I TG you.

k

understood NC
Now would be the time to close the thread Mesotarian, and welcome..........

further conversation should be on the region page
Ravea
12-08-2007, 00:04
Ravea, any aggression towards me will result in nuclear retaliation, i dont want war, I WANT MESTORIAN.

No "aggression" will be aimed at North Calaveras unless you supply Mestorian with nuclear arms. The small country will surely benefit under your protection; we do not have any qualms over Mestorian moving to the Sons of Lenin, However, Ravea demands that no nukes be given to such a rash nation. Doing so will, we repeat, will, call for some type of action.

You have been warned.

~Ravean Authority
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:05
Word had come of the Mestorian assimilation, 70,000 of the peoples army, began to march into Mestorian, 40,000 SOL T-62 rolled along side the army.

OCC: i need to secure you so you dont do anything funny.
Damirez
12-08-2007, 00:07
we shall talk about this in greater detail later. I must depart shortly. I'll tg you

Sure, we'll talk about it at a later date.

And NC, the declaration of war might be rescinded, but you have no way of knowing how Multiland is going to treat it *if he is going to bother.

Regardless, we will keep a close eye on this country and on its nuclear policies.
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 00:07
attention everyone!

i am giving that nuke back to the sons of Lenin

i have joined the sons of lenin

i will become a commi

I request you leave North Calaveras alone, it is not his fault!

MY DESISION IS FINAL!

and peace shall once again fall on this small country
Greal
12-08-2007, 00:08
I'll send in 5,000 men to gaurd the major citys in Mesotarian.



North Calaveras, I don't think it is a good idea to give him a nuke anyway.
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 00:09
umm... please send your troops back
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:09
Sure, we'll talk about it at a later date.

And NC, the declaration of war might be rescinded, but you have no way of knowing how Multiland is going to treat is *if he is going to bother.

Regardless, we will keep a close eye on this country and on its nuclear policies.

I agree I shall keep a close eye too, even though im in the SOL, im the only democracy there. sooooooooooooooooo lonely :(
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:10
Greal, i want all of my SOL states inclined with a nuclear deterent, but since you are my second in cammand, i will not give him nukes, but everything else is fine. HOWEVER, i will make him nuclear when he proves himself stable.
One World Alliance
12-08-2007, 00:10
The Republic of One World Alliance pledges to support any nation which decides to, by means of force, remove any donated WMD's to the rouge nation of Mesotarian.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:10
I'll send in 5,000 men to gaurd the major citys in Mesotarian.



North Calaveras, I don't think it is a good idea to give him a nuke anyway.

I shall send an extra 10,000 to help Greal

Not a good idea with the nuke.

Mesotarian, were only gaurding you so you don't do anything stupid
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 00:10
great im North Korea now, i should be so proud :rolleyes:
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:11
you should be proud comrade, youve taken your first steps in a secure communist nation, i will however have to get rid of your current politicians, forcefully, if it must be.
Greal
12-08-2007, 00:13
umm... please send your troops back


Greal will withdraw its men due to the fact that they are needed in a different country.


Zoingo, I TGed you.
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 00:13
I did used to have a keen interest in the Soviet Union and their Migs, T-34 Tanks, Nukes, polocies

This might be fun, as long as i dont turn into a puppet government
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:14
Further discussion should be on the SOL thread.

NC, why do you allow my country to stay democratic, unless.................. you have spies... there everywhere ahhhhhh! :D
Ravea
12-08-2007, 00:14
Greal, i want all of my SOL states inclined with a nuclear deterent, but since you are my second in cammand, i will not give him nukes, but everything else is fine. HOWEVER, i will make him nuclear when he proves himself stable.

Providing Mesotarian does eventually prove himself worthy of such weapons, Ravea finds it quite acceptable for Mesotarian to be provided with a small (Very small, however) nuclear arsenal. There are many other nuclear deterrents than more nuclear weapons, however.

Ravea would also like to remind every nation of the severe risk a large-scale nuclear attack would have on the ecosystem. Given the massive power of nuclear weapons today, even a mild attack would irreparably damage the earth, spread large amounts of radiation around the globe, and pose a grave threat to every country on the planet.

Ravea would like to thank all parties involved for working hard to avoid bloodshed. Have a great day!

~Ravean Authority
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 00:16
should i close the thread now
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:23
yes
THE END
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:24
Ravea would like to thank all parties involved for working hard to avoid bloodshed. Have a great day!

~Ravean Authority
hope you do too!
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 00:28
you should be proud comrade, youve taken your first steps in a secure communist nation, i will however have to get rid of your current politicians, forcefully, if it must be.

From what the Confederate States has noted recently, while you may be "allied" with Mesotarian, we believe that you have absolutely no grounds to act as if Mesotarian is a client state of yours.

One nation as good as "picking on" another nation is totally abhorrant, and we condemn this practice in the strongest possible terms.
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:30
with all do respect Bostopia, stay out of it.
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 00:32
The Confederate States would like to ask, why? If one nation is clearly under duress should it not be the responsibility of larger nations to protect it from wrongdoings?
Zackaroth
12-08-2007, 00:35
With all respect to NC: Nations have a right to comment. Your lucky this nation stopped its decleration of war. The Zackarothian war machine was itching to replace the land we gave away. Mesotarian though seems to be under bad leadership and its ally's seem to be total nimrods. We kindly ask Mesotarian to leave behind NC and Greal. Become a state protected under Zackaroth. We are more powerful and can offer you better guidiance then these fools can.

Aimless von Strangaild, High Leader of Zackaroth.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:35
From what the Confederate States has noted recently, while you may be "allied" with Mesotarian, we believe that you have absolutely no grounds to act as if Mesotarian is a client state of yours.

One nation as good as "picking on" another nation is totally abhorrant, and we condemn this practice in the strongest possible terms.

Hold up there Bostopia, he is not a client state, he just joined an alliance. And seriously, you butted in at the wrong time, just saying.

Zackaroth........
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:36
why do i want him? because i need more member states, and he is now MINE, im not bossing him, i just dont want him getting out of line.
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 00:38
Ah, so it's an occupying force you've just rolled into his capital?

Very gallant. We'll be watching this situation unfold with great interest.
Shazbotdom
12-08-2007, 00:38
OOC:
From what I see...the SoL (Sons of Lenin) are just a mall group of '07 nations trying to push other nations around. I'm sure that larger nations wouldn't mind stepping in to put them in their place...
Ravea
12-08-2007, 00:40
OOC:
From what I see...the SoL (Sons of Lenin) are just a mall group of '07 nations trying to push other nations around. I'm sure that larger nations wouldn't mind stepping in to put them in their place...

OCC: I'd be happy to, if you would be so kind to join me. Still, there's not really a need for it. They'll get sorted out eventually.
Damirez
12-08-2007, 00:41
The Principality of Damirez is going to dispatch teams of observers to insure that human rights are respected by the NC forces.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:41
With all respect to NC: Nations have a right to comment. Your lucky this nation stopped its decleration of war. The Zackarothian war machine was itching to replace the land we gave away. Mesotarian though seems to be under bad leadership and its ally's seem to be total nimrods. We kindly ask Mesotarian to leave behind NC and Greal. Become a state protected under Zackaroth. We are more powerful and can offer you better guidiance then these fools can.

Aimless von Strangaild, High Leader of Zackaroth.

With all respect Zackaroth, I dont think Mesotarian would seek protection under you.

And Bostopia, we sent troops to his cities so Mesotarian wouldn't do anything more stupid than what he had already done, we had witnesses, right Damirez?
Zackaroth
12-08-2007, 00:46
OCC: I'd be happy to, if you would be so kind to join me. Still, there's not really a need for it. They'll get sorted out eventually.

OOC: I'll help out if needed. Why not sort this here and now XD


IC:

With all respects to Zoingo, we believe it wil due to the fact we are much bigger, our military can protect them from both forgien and domestic threats. And we would not do what NC just did. They effectly invaded a free nation. WE are suggesting they pullout before there bullying gets them into trouble with us.

Aimless von Strangaild.
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 00:46
From what little reports we have seen out of Mesotarian, it would appear that it IS an occupying force. Using bully-boy tactics against smaller nations will not go down well in the wider international community.

Bostopia would support Zackaroth should any furthur action be taken. Bostopia supports the actions of Damirez.

ooc: I'm with Shazbotdom and Ravea.

References: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12957782&postcount=2
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12957833&postcount=6
Damirez
12-08-2007, 00:49
And Bostopia, we sent troops to his cities so Mesotarian wouldn't do anything more stupid than what he had already done, we had witnesses, right Damirez?

Our observers have only recently arrived in the country and are assessing the situation. While we do not doubt Zoingo's good intention we would like to remember that we were and still are cautious as to the intentions of NC.
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:49
im only securing him so we can install the new goverment. and you may bring in observers.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:50
NC...........you have yourself in one big sinkhole
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:50
im not shooting anyone, just keeping him from doing what you all didnt want him to do.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:52
Our observers have only recently arrived in the country and are assessing the situation. While we do not doubt Zoingo's good intention we would like to remember that we were and still are cautious as to the intentions of NC.

Wow, at least one nation outside of the alliance understands my intentions.

thanks Damirez
Damirez
12-08-2007, 00:52
Our first reports from the country have confirmed our worries. The NC forces are overwhelmingly present in the country and are 'securing' the country.

OOC: Zoingo at least you haven't RPed troops moving in to what sums up to be an overthrow of the current government and sovereignty.
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:55
send your observers all of you, you will see i will treat the people fairly, im not raping and pillaging.
Ravea
12-08-2007, 00:55
im not shooting anyone, just keeping him from doing what you all didnt want him to do.

Ravea never expressed any concern when Mesotarian joined the Sons of Lenin; what you seem to be doing, however, is a regime change and the installation of a puppet government, which Mesotarian clearly never agreed to.

We are the North Calaveras army, your goverment has agreed to join the Sons of Lenin, you will not fight us, unless you wish us to forcefully take you. We are here to ensure our terms are met.

Please withdraw your forces from Mesotarian immediately, of swift action may need to be taken. Until Mesotarian agrees to have any North Calaveras army units in-country, your actions could be considered overly aggressive.

~Ravean Authority
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:57
Our first reports from the country have confirmed our worries. The NC forces are overwhelmingly present in the country and are 'securing' the country.

OOC: Zoingo at least you haven't RPed troops moving in to what sums up to be an overthrow of the current government and sovereignty.

Well, I did, but me and Greal had unattended business that came up suddenly, so we pulled out.

check tgs
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 00:57
The country will become a communist goverment, ran by there own people.
Zackaroth
12-08-2007, 00:59
The country will become a communist goverment, ran by there own people.


With this statement I can say pull out now before we make you pullout. They never agreed to this and if you do not stop Zackaroth will put an end to your forces.

Aimless von Strangaild.
Shazbotdom
12-08-2007, 00:59
OOC:
How about this....


http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/VariousShazbotdom/Government-Seal.gif
FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SUPREME EMEPROR
MR GEORGE A. LOAK
We feel that the Nation of North Calaveras is overstepping their bounds in forcing a nation to join an alliance just to gain the 'protection' of them. We feel that there is no reason for you to occupy a nation in this manner. You have two choices now, and I hope you take the second choice. Now, your choices:
1. Withdraw your military from Mesotarian and there will be no military actions against you.
2. Keep your military inside of Mesotarian and we will forcibly remove them (with the help from a group of other nations).


The Choice is yours.
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 00:59
Bostopia fully supports Ravea, and will send aid of any form if necessary.

North Calaveras' latest remarks stating that the country "will" become a Communist one worry us, as we see no indication as of this present moment that there is any form of support in Mesotarian for this form of totalitarian Government.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 00:59
The country will become a communist goverment, ran by there own people.

Just on an unrelated note, how can It be run by their people if the point of communism is for the government to run the country. In a democracy, people run the govenment. :confused:
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 01:01
ran by the people means, that the communist party will be made of us Mestorians, and they will have worker counciles, and why are people mad, just cause its a communist goverment?
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 01:05
Nations, sir, are mad because we are seeing an absolute breech of another nation's sovereignty by a larger one who is enforcing a Government onto that smaller nation against their will.

As you can see, there is a number of nations willing to defend Mesotarian, and Bostopia would recommend you take the correct course of action.
Ravea
12-08-2007, 01:05
Bostopia fully supports Ravea, and will send aid of any form if necessary.

North Calaveras' latest remarks stating that the country "will" become a Communist one worry us, as we see no indication as of this present moment that there is any form of support in Mesotarian for this form of totalitarian Government.

Ravea thanks Bostopia for their support; although the Authority is completely confident that it could successfully fight the entire Sons of Lenin group on it's own, any support is welcomed and appreciated.

ran by the people means, that the communist party will be made of us Mestorians, and they will have worker counciles, and why are people mad, just cause its a communist goverment?

Ravea has no qualms against the communist form of government; having implemented many socialist ideas into it's own government, Ravea considered communists to be somewhat of a second cousin. However, the Authority will not tolerate forcible regime changes in weak nations.
Damirez
12-08-2007, 01:06
Well, I did, but me and Greal had unattended business that came up suddenly, so we pulled out.

check tgs

Wouldn't have bode well for you to get involved like that. Anyway, I answered.

The issue is not having a communist government, but the fact that it is forcibly imposed on the people.
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 01:08
he is allowing me entrance, so technically im not forceing anything.
Bostopia
12-08-2007, 01:10
Ravea thanks Bostopia for their support; although the Authority is completely confident that it could successfully fight the entire Sons of Lenin group on it's own, any support is welcomed and appreciated.

We feel that while Ravea would indeed be able to fight the entire group, unilateral action would not sum up the feelings of the global community on this issue. We will continue to support by any means possible, including military deployments should it come to that.
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 01:11
Guys Its Over!!!

We Live Happily Ever After!

the End
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 01:13
Wouldn't have bode well for you to get involved like that. Anyway, I answered.

The issue is not having a communist government, but the fact that it is forcibly imposed on the people.

I know, it could have been nasty, I could have been attacked.

Wow, talk about a tough life on the people.
Damirez
12-08-2007, 01:13
he is allowing me entrance, so technically im not forceing anything.

Recent Intel revealed to us the price of this permission, given AFTER your nation entered their territory.

We are brought to the same situation that brought this crisis about. We have stated before and we shall now state again. No nuclear weapons for this country!

OOC: Zoingo I answered.
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 01:14
Guys Its Over!!!

We Live Happily Ever After!

the End

Please close it now................

Please!
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 01:14
wtf happended while i was at dinner

have i thrown countries into nuclear exchange?

WHAT!!
WHAT!!
WHAT!!
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 01:14
how Do I Close The Thread!!!
Zoingo
12-08-2007, 01:17
wtf happended while i was at dinner

have i thrown countries into nuclear exchange?

WHAT!!
WHAT!!
WHAT!!

Just a big cat fight

I have no idea, try going to international incidents and delete it there
Shazbotdom
12-08-2007, 01:25
To close a thread, go to moderation, start a thread there asking the Mods to lock the thread, and also include a link to the thread, that will help them do their job faster.
Mesotarian
12-08-2007, 01:31
I HAVE GOOD NEWS!

The sons of Lenin gave me 10 IBCMs

-Mig-21
-T-34 tanks
-Ak47s and RPGs

YEEEHAA!!!
North Calaveras
12-08-2007, 01:31
actually i didnt give you that old crap lol