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Vetalian Allies (official name pending)

-Vetalia (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a335/shaddamIV/Vetalia-1.jpg)
-New Manth
-The Warmaster
-Maldorians (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l182/maldorians/maldoriannation-1.png?t=1165973620)
-Red Tide (map under construction)
-Amazonian Beasts
-Steel and Fire (http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb22/insanityisfreedom36/Steel_and_Fire1.png)
-Buddha C
-Corneliu
ViZion Allies
-ViZion (http://www.freewebs.com/vizionpics/mapafrica.JPG)
-Mondoth
-The Lone Alliance
-ANL (RL Mexico/Central America cities)
-Kanisov
-Cazelia
-Duneria
-DMG/Omni Sense (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m305/Omni-Sense/MapKey.jpg)
-Generic Empire

Partisans (in occupied regions, good character RP skills strongly suggested since this will all be small-unit action)

Vetalian Loyalists
-The PeoplesFreedom
-Dalnijrus

ViZion Loyalist Partisans
-Mondoth
-The Lone Alliance

Other (nationalist/independence/revolutionary movements against Vetalia and ViZion)
-Kampfers

We still need maps from participants, and if somebody could round up all of the threads for me to post links to, I'd really appreciate it.

Links (I know it's not comprehensive but these are the ones I can find for now):
Cazelian Buildup (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534856)
Invasion of Cazelia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534966)
Anschluss (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534897)

What's up with that map?

OOC - what? i think it's a good map

OOC - what? i think it's a good map

It's all messed up :confused:

Vetalia. DO you have AIM/MSN? You can TG me it or whatever. I have a few plans.

What's up with that map?

I had to accommodate some countries' differing geography and locations by blending together countries and creating a few new land masses.

Vetalia. DO you have AIM/MSN? You can TG me it or whatever. I have a few plans.

Maldorians, I already have you on AIM. I'm getting on now.

OOC: You know what, since my current nation map looks like something a 3 year old did, just give me Cuba. No one ever chooses Cuba. And expect more posts soon.

OOC: You know what, since my current nation map looks like something a 3 year old did, just give me Cuba. No one ever chooses Cuba. And expect more posts soon.

How about I just make that big square yours? It's Cuba with all of the small Caribbean island around it, so that should be pretty good.

Once you have a good map, just post the link here or TG it and I'll add it to the list.

For the map, I'm Australia, Tasmania, New Zealand, and New Guinea, just to heads up.

I'm in the process of making a more detailed internal map, so I don't have a "Dominion Only" Map done yet...

For the map, I'm Australia, Tasmania, New Zealand, and New Guinea, just to heads up.

I'm in the process of making a more detailed internal map, so I don't have a "Dominion Only" Map done yet...

Thanks. I'll add you to the map, and when you've got a national map on hand I'll add a link to it in the first post.

Bump

Looks like we can afford another person on Vetalia's side.... it's 8 to 9 at the moment, and three of those 9 are 6 billion+ nations.

Also, since I'm too lazy to write it up right now, imagine a large military buildup becoming evident in the colonies of Pacifica and Parnassus (both of which, despite appearing small on the map, are in fact large enough to host a score or two of divisions), and Parnassus's civilians are being evacuated into Vetalia.

We could really use 1 more person. It would provide us with a little more balance of forces.

And I'll keep an eye out for that thread, since a military buildup in your colonies would open up the potential for an Alaskan campaign against TLA as well as more help in the war in Africa.

Plus, I still need maps and land claims for everyone that doesn't have one.

OOC- Where's Duneria?

I would like a land claim to British Columbia, and lower Washington.

I would like a land claim to British Columbia, and lower Washington.

Okay, so you'll be just north of Cazelia.

Bump. This should be kept near the top now that ViZion is on.

GE should be posting his claims soon... Follow Thru and Teb Chaw are the 2 new nations I was refering to, and not sure if they'll be posting today or tomorrow their claims.

GE should be posting his claims soon... Follow Thru and Teb Chaw are the 2 new nations I was refering to, and not sure if they'll be posting today or tomorrow their claims.

That's cool. I'm still looking for someone else for our side, but for now that should be fine. By and large, it's pretty balanced, and an extra nation on our side would not be completely vital.

Also, why is it whenever I look at the map, it's changing? Sometimes people are removed, other times people are added, and yet others some are added AND others are removed... what's up with that?

Also, why is it whenever I look at the map, it's changing? Sometimes people are removed, other times people are added, and yet others some are added AND others are removed... what's up with that?

What it might be is that I delete the old map on Photobucket when a new country is added, and since the new map has the same URL it will change as the map changes. That can lead to some volatility.

So, if I'm working on the map, it may change as I work with it and upload different versions.

What it might be is that I delete the old map on Photobucket when a new country is added, and since the new map has the same URL it will change as the map changes. That can lead to some volatility.

So, if I'm working on the map, it may change as I work with it and upload different versions.
Ahh gotchya

Bad news: British Londinium has dropped out of the war. I need to find two people now.

I've sent Neo Undelia (from General, but interested in II) and Kampfers TGs, but I'll have to see if either of them are interested.

Sorry to bug you Vetalia, but when you can, could you add me to the map (Mexico and Central America)...I don't have a color preference...Thanks.

Bad news: British Londinium has dropped out of the war. I need to find two people now.

I've sent Neo Undelia (from General, but interested in II) and Kampfers TGs, but I'll have to see if either of them are interested.
Damn, and I was looking forward to adding BL as a ViZionarian territory. lol

Damn, and I was looking forward to adding BL as a ViZionarian territory. lol

Lol, well, if I can find someone to replace them, I will. Kampfers is unavailable, so I'll have to look around.

Also, ANL, I added you.

Vetalia, how am I outnumbered? compared to my list, your forces are kinda lacking. (Except at sea)

Vetalia, how am I outnumbered? compared to my list, your forces are kinda lacking. (Except at sea)

I think it might have been some confusion in the OP.

I've got a total of 7 million combat troops invading Cazelia, including over 50,000 MBTs and at least 30-40,000 IFVs, 15,000 artillery pieces, armored vehicles, and transports along with trucks, APCs, recon vehicles and the like. This is a huge invasion meant to totally overwhelm and destroy opposition in the region.

Those units I listed were 1 division's worth of troops, since most combat will be RPed at the division level or smaller and each of the 7 armies has 30 divisions under its command of 20,000 men each. Each army is 600,000 men strong.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

And sorry for calling you Vetelia instead of Vetalia

Okay, thanks for clearing that up.

And sorry for calling you Vetelia instead of Vatelia

No prob. :)

I've had people call me Vetaka, even though they're a completely different nation on II.

Hey, Follow Thru and Hmoob Teb Chaw wanted me to tell you their claims.

Follow Thru: The Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda.
Hmoob Teb Chaw: Gabon, Congo, Texas.

Just lettin ya know what they told me their claims were.

Lol, well, if I can find someone to replace them, I will. Kampfers is unavailable, so I'll have to look around.

Also, ANL, I added you.
Need we put this RP on pause for a day or so so you can get a couple people to replace your negative position?

Cazelia, please see my question to you in the Cazelian invasion thread. Thanks.

Need we put this RP on pause for a day or so so you can get a couple people to replace your negative position?

Nah, for now it's just in Cazelia. I'll delay the bigger war until I can get another person.

Hey, Follow Thru and Hmoob Teb Chaw wanted me to tell you their claims.

Follow Thru: The Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda.
Hmoob Teb Chaw: Gabon, Congo, Texas.

Just lettin ya know what they told me their claims were.

Okay, I'll update it ASAP.

Promise me a 300+ Million nation to become my puppet and I'll join which ever side. :D

Promise me a 300+ Million nation to become my puppet and I'll join which ever side. :D

If we win...you'll get something like that out of it. Plus, I could seriously use two additional nations on my side.

So, Buddha C, you're in. Choose a land claim, make a national map and get ready for the war.

OOC: I'm going to bed. Here's a rough summary of what's happened so far:

Vetalia invades Cazelia, Duneria intervenes but is pushed back in the air while their ground forces face a much larger enemy. The conflict on the ground has not been fought yet.

Cazelian and Dunerian special forces operate behind the lines to try and stall the invasion. One depot is currently under attack but additional troops are en route to the area to help secure the area. The Dunerians have severely damaged the depot and have killed 12 troops, including one with the chainsword.

Vetalian troops are currently 20km from Caze City and are waiting for artillery to get in place before attacking the defenses. They also want to draw the Dunerians in to the area so that they can use air, land, and sea support to attack them.

Current losses:
Vetalia:
12 infantry
359 planes

Duneria:
350 planes

Cazelia:
(I need to know if any units were damaged in the initial bombardment of the border region. Also, I will need to know what kind of losses the bombardment from the 14,700 artillery pieces will be when they are in range of the city.)

If any part of this is incorrect, tell me immediately so that I can adjust it. There's nothing worse for a war RP than confusion over what is going on where.

Form Maine to Florida, please. :D

OOc: when will the ground battle be fought?

It'll be fought once your forces get here, probably within a few hours (in RP time, not IRL time).

Also, map is updated.

Okay, everything is up to date. Corneliu will be on my side, so that balance us out going forward. Once he has his claims and everything, we can start moving forward with the war.

Sorry for the vague statement on claims, I meant all of the New Guinea island for my claim (not trying to be picky, just that's how my nation is primarily set up).

Sorry for the vague statement on claims, I meant all of the New Guinea island for my claim (not trying to be picky, just that's how my nation is primarily set up).

Oh, okay. I'll edit it.

Vetalia, in Anschluss, how are your people on the nonmilitary side of negotiations? Receptive?

I'm getting the feeling that the more militarily successful I am, the more autonomy I get - whereas if I make like Italy in WWII, pop goes national sovereignty. But are we on the same page with regard to the starting point?

We're more receptive on the economic side than the military side, primarily because your nation is strategically critical to our interests. We just can't risk losing those territories, so any serious military reversals might require us to take more action in your country than if you are doing well on the military front.

map of Cazelia with terrain and major to minor cities, please.

map of Cazelia with terrain and major to minor cities, please.

TG sent.

Replied.

tl;dr: While Duneria attacks Vetalia to the south, I attack Duneria from the north. Bombers bomb military bases.

(To pre-empt the question: Unless you're watching Pacifica closely, which I don't imagine you'll be doing because you're keeping your eyes on Cazelia, your only warning that we're planning anything will be the sign dropped in an open field near your capital.)

Excellent. That'll hit Cazelia and Duneria from multiple sides, and then we can move towards TLA-controlled Alaska...

Since I'm pacific, I can move a fleet towards Alaska...there'll be pre-warning, but hey, stealth isn't always needed...

Since I'm pacific, I can move a fleet towards Alaska...there'll be pre-warning, but hey, stealth isn't always needed...

That's fine with me. I want you, me, and Red Tide to lock down the Pacific for our forces...we don't need stealth if we maintain overwhelming naval supremacy in the region.

Excellent. That'll hit Cazelia and Duneria from multiple sides, and then we can move towards TLA-controlled Alaska...

So far we've been ignoring Alaska because TLA has yet to do anything aggressive and ICly we don't know they're on Cazelia's side; as soon as those reports of mysterious submarine warfare, exploding merchant shipping and all those other TLA hallmarks pop up we'll be on it. ;)

Unfortunately I don't have much naval stuff in the region -- you can't hide ships in an island the way you can men and planes -- but I can (conceivably) send a fleet over through the Northwest Passage to hit Alaska from the more unexpected side, provided it's summer.

So far we've been ignoring Alaska because TLA has yet to do anything aggressive and ICly we don't know they're on Cazelia's side; as soon as those reports of mysterious submarine warfare, exploding merchant shipping and all those other TLA hallmarks pop up we'll be on it. ;)

Oh yeah. I don't keep 3,500 ships in the region for fun. ;)

Unfortunately I don't have much naval stuff in the region -- you can't hide ships in an island the way you can men and planes -- but I can (conceivably) send a fleet over through the Northwest Passage to hit Alaska from the more unexpected side, provided it's summer.

Yeah, I think much of the current naval strength will come from me, Red Tide, and Amazonian Beasts. Especially Red Tide, given how powerful their navy is compared to other nations'.

Duneria: Am I to assume that tanks, artillery, planes etc. located in the military bases I targeted have also been destroyed? If not, how many survived, and of what types?

Well, since Cazelia hasn't replied to my question, I'll assume he denied it. Oh well, his loss.

Ah, okay. I imagine our troops will allow you to evacuate civilians. The last thing we need is a Lusitania on our hands. ;)

I'm going to bed. Try not to kill off everyone 'til I come back, ok? ;)

I'm going to bed. Try not to kill off everyone 'til I come back, ok? ;)
Ahh, I'll try not to, but that's hard not to do. lol

Vetalia, my internet was down last night, but I should be able to throw a couple posts up today. You about ready to get to the signing of a formal treaty in the Anschluss thread?

Vetalia, my internet was down last night, but I should be able to throw a couple posts up today. You about ready to get to the signing of a formal treaty in the Anschluss thread?

Sure. We'll get that resolved...and then begin moving towards ViZion.

My Navy isnt all that special...

Oh, and sorry for being so late, got distracted by updating my computer to Windows Vista.

Hey guys, I'm gonna be busy this weekend, so I might not get the chance to post. FYI

The current military plan for New Manth calls for a preliminary invasion of Saudi Arabia to secure oil supplies & a better strategic location with respect to the Mediterranean and Suez.

Since nobody's nation is in Saudi Arabia, I'm working under the assumption that it is in a similar state to its RL incarnation in terms of population, military etc. This OK with everyone?

If so, would one of the partisans players be interested in RPing the Saudi resistance?

The current military plan for New Manth calls for a preliminary invasion of Saudi Arabia to secure oil supplies & a better strategic location with respect to the Mediterranean and Suez.

Since nobody's nation is in Saudi Arabia, I'm working under the assumption that it is in a similar state to its RL incarnation in terms of population, military etc. This OK with everyone?

If so, would one of the partisans players be interested in RPing the Saudi resistance?

If none of them hit it up, I'd be glad to RP it...the Pacific has been kinda quiet so far in my sector.

I'll be able to start postin again tomorrow. Anything I miss?

I'll be able to start postin again tomorrow. Anything I miss?

Not really. I've kept it on the back burner, mainly due to several RPs going on outside of this war as well as other peoples' RP commitments/unavailability.

Put my Nation in Siberia please. THanks ;)

If none of them hit it up, I'd be glad to RP it...the Pacific has been kinda quiet so far in my sector.

Works for me.

Put my Nation in Siberia please. THanks ;)

Thanks, I'll have it updated tonight.

Intel > Domestic > Military > Standalone Units > 33rd Tactical Battalion

DESIGNATION: 33rd Tactical Battalion

NAME: Rough and Ready

COMMANDER: Major Tybalt Chester James Malone (learn more)

DATE INCORPORATED: 31 January 1279

ORDER OF BATTLE:
[Division A]
Designation: 97th Tactical Division
Commander: Captain Lew Marshall Kennings
Combat troops: 50,000
Ground vehicles: 5,211
indentMain battle tanks: 648
indentInfantry fighting vehicles: 600
indentArmoured personnel carriers: 720
indentArtillery guns (6" self-propelled): 325
indentArtillery guns (5" self-propelled): 432
indentArtillery guns (3" dual purpose self-propelled): 280
indentSupply trucks: 400
indentMinesweepers: 72
indentJeeps: 1,728
indentCommand centres: 6
Aircraft: 966
indentAir superiority fighters: Twelve squadrons [240]
indentStrike fighters: Ten squadrons [200]
indentUnmanned aerial vehicles: Six squadrons [120]
indentAWACS: One squadron [6]
indentTransport aircraft: Twelve squadrons [240]
indentHelicopter gunships: Eight squadrons [160]
indentIn-flight refuelers: One squadron [20]

[Division B]
Designation: 98th Tactical Division
Commander: Captain Clement Donovan Walder
Combat troops: 50,000
Ground vehicles: 5,211
indentMain battle tanks: 648
indentInfantry fighting vehicles: 600
indentArmoured personnel carriers: 720
indentArtillery guns (6" self-propelled): 325
indentArtillery guns (5" self-propelled): 432
indentArtillery guns (3" dual purpose self-propelled): 280
indentSupply trucks: 400
indentMinesweepers: 72
indentJeeps: 1,728
indentCommand centres: 6
Aircraft: 966
indentAir superiority fighters: Twelve squadrons [240]
indentStrike fighters: Ten squadrons [200]
indentUnmanned aerial vehicles: Six squadrons [120]
indentAWACS: One squadron [6]
indentTransport aircraft: Twelve squadrons [240]
indentHelicopter gunships: Eight squadrons [160]
indentIn-flight refuelers: One squadron [20]

[Division C]
Designation: 99th Tactical Division
Commander: Major Tybalt Chester James Malone (second hat)
Combat troops: 50,000
Ground vehicles: 5,211
indentMain battle tanks: 648
indentInfantry fighting vehicles: 600
indentArmoured personnel carriers: 720
indentArtillery guns (6" self-propelled): 325
indentArtillery guns (5" self-propelled): 432
indentArtillery guns (3" dual purpose self-propelled): 280
indentSupply trucks: 400
indentMinesweepers: 72
indentJeeps: 1,728
indentCommand centres: 6
Aircraft: 986
indentAir superiority fighters: Twelve squadrons [240]
indentStrike fighters: Ten squadrons [200]
indentUnmanned aerial vehicles: Six squadrons [120]
indentAWACS: One squadron [6]
indentTransport aircraft: Twelve squadrons [240]
indentHelicopter gunships: Eight squadrons [160]
indentIn-flight refuelers: One squadron [20]

[Additional]
Assorted field guns [3,189] and MLRS units [207]
Ambulances [344]

[Total Combat Troops:] 150,000
[Total Ground Vehicles:] 19,373
[Total Aircraft:] 2,958

[Total Combat Personnel:] 175,359
[Total Logistical Personnel:] 278,712
[Total Personnel:] 454,071

-----------------------------------

There is another one of these, plus 72 strategic bombers and about 32 attack submarines, on standby.

So far we've been ignoring Alaska because TLA has yet to do anything aggressive and ICly we don't know they're on Cazelia's side; as soon as those reports of mysterious submarine warfare, exploding merchant shipping and all those other TLA hallmarks pop up we'll be on it. ;) Oh I have quite a opening prepared for my entrance.

Deployments:

-Sub Fleet- (Nod Controlled)

[40x] SSN-21s
[20x] 645 Sierra class
[30x] 671 Victor III class
[10x] 949A Oscar class Subs
[120x] Automated Transport\Minelayer Subs
[1500x]Sucide Subs (Small Automated Subs containing 1 1000bomb and water jets.)


-Northern Border force-

[60,000x]Soldiers
[75x]Scorpion Light Tanks
[30x]Scimitar Light Tanks
[30x]MT-LBs
[80x]M113APCs
[50x]Scorpian Attack Buggies
[20x]Hornet Type 63 Rocket Buggies
[45x]Dagger TOW Missile Bikes
[60x]M8 Tractors
[6x]StarStreak SAM Vehicles
[40x]M42 Bulldog AA tanks
[5x]Type 88 MBTs
[25x]75mm Bofors (Towed)
[30x]152mm Howitzer M1943 (Towed)
[20x] 82mm Vasilek Mortars
[5x] ???? Trucks


-Logistics-

[60x]M706s
[60x]Stalwart Trucks
[30x]M8 Tractors
[30x]40mm Bofors L/70
[50x]AMX-10s
[60x]Humvees (Avenger, Anti-Tank, Normal)


Infantry Weapons:

M202A1 Flash
M67 90mm recoilless rifle
Raptor Assault Rifle (Local Design, 100 5.56 Clip, Issued sparingly)
V - 94 "Vzlomscik" (Issued to Anti-Vehicle Snipers)
G. 36 Automatic Rifle (Mountain Troops)
AK-102s
Various Grenades
M-16s (Personal Owned)
M-79s
60mm Mortars
Other

OOC: Warmaster I RPed launching my subs into the Northeast Pacific. I forgot that you've never witnessed me RP, You can ask Steel and Fire, when I deploy subs, I always flood the contiental Slope with Mines and Bombs. The closer you get to shore the more you'll run into, I've altered all of my subs to be able rest near the bottom to mask their signature.

But you know WHY I never made an IC post? Because if I did, even if it was Secret, basicly nay impossible to detect, I feel that Somehow SOMEWAY, they would get detected.

Ah, gotcha. No problem then. Incidentally, how many of those 1500 suicide subs are beneath my fleet?

The list of my forces.

NAVAL FORCES

Commander: High Admiral Ludo Anor

6 Apophis-class supercapitals
14 Invictus-class supercarriers (250 aircraft; 216 F/A-104 Balefires, 24 AH-166 gunships, 5 Behemoth heavy bombers, 5 Thunderbird AWACS)
49 Astaroth-class battleships
54 Prophet-class carriers (160 aircraft; 144 F/A-104 Balefires, 16 AH-166 gunships)
508 Valhalla-class missile submarines
457 Stalker-class attack submarines
545 Attila-class cruisers
603 Metatron-class missile cruisers
597 Darius-class destroyers
684 Piranha-class frigates
760 Atlantis-class transport ships
110 Caduceus-class hospital ships
650 Arsenal-class supply ships
315 Vulcan-class repair ships
263 Formica-class minesweepers

Total: 5,615 vessels; 2,552 surface warships, 965 submarines, 2,098 support vessels

GROUND FORCES

Commander: Lord General Yataghan

3,600,000 Legionaries
42,000 Immortals
9,600 War-Priests
1,650 field guns (105mm)
1,450 medium guns (155mm)
1,100 heavy guns (230mm)
90 Colossus howitzers (460mm)
2,600 Baal SAM batteries
60,000 M146 Despoiler MBTs
58,000 Sidewinder LAVs
7,600 F/A-104 Balefires
3,600 A-10 Thunderbolts
960 Behemoth heavy bombers
24 B-4 Paladin stealth bombers
4,600 AH-166 Twilight gunships
5,200 Lawgiver VTOL transports
1,400 C-7 Generia transport planes
80 Thunderbird AWACS planes
60 mobile command posts
1,800,000 associated personnel (medics, cooks, drivers, pilots, servants, techs, engineers, etc)
Associated transport trucks
Military engineering equipment and materials

Vetalia, TG.

Sorry I haven't posted, I had to take apart and clean my keyboard after spilling something all over it.

PS: That missile was carrying a small portion of a depleted nuclear fuel rod, when combined with a reflective shielding within, makes a buildup of Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Rays that spilled out when it opened. Expect similar weapons used against Aircraft Radars. Radioactive Chaff, Neutron Gun bursts etc.

Sorry I haven't posted, I had to take apart and clean my keyboard after spilling something all over it.

PS: That missile was carrying a small portion of a depleted nuclear fuel rod, when combined with a reflective shielding within, makes a buildup of Alpha, Beta, and Gamma Rays that spilled out when it opened. Expect similar situations on Aircraft Radars.

Missile? *puzzled face*

Missile? *puzzled face*
That was to Steel and Fire.

And as for your ships... I have around 80 sucide subs in your area. As well as 12 Regular subs. The longer you remain in one place the more there is a chance of them activating.

That was to Steel and Fire.

And as for your ships... I have around 80 sucide subs in your area. As well as 12 Regular subs. The longer you remain in one place the more there is a chance of them activating.

Well, the regular subs will very likely be detected. But, correct me if I'm wrong, I have no way of knowing about the other suicide subs, so I guess activate at your leisure, cause the fleet isn't going to move much.

hey sorry... having computer issues right now. :(

The list of my forces.

NAVAL FORCES

Commander: High Admiral Ludo Anor

6 Apophis-class supercapitals
14 Invictus-class supercarriers (250 aircraft; 216 F/A-104 Balefires, 24 AH-166 gunships, 5 Behemoth heavy bombers, 5 Thunderbird AWACS)
49 Astaroth-class battleships
54 Prophet-class carriers (160 aircraft; 144 F/A-104 Balefires, 16 AH-166 gunships)
508 Valhalla-class missile submarines
457 Stalker-class attack submarines
545 Attila-class cruisers
603 Metatron-class missile cruisers
597 Darius-class destroyers
684 Piranha-class frigates
760 Atlantis-class transport ships
110 Caduceus-class hospital ships
650 Arsenal-class supply ships
315 Vulcan-class repair ships
263 Formica-class minesweepers

Total: 5,615 vessels; 2,552 surface warships, 965 submarines, 2,098 support vessels

GROUND FORCES

Commander: Lord General Yataghan

3,600,000 Legionaries
42,000 Immortals
9,600 War-Priests
1,650 field guns (105mm)
1,450 medium guns (155mm)
1,100 heavy guns (230mm)
90 Colossus howitzers (460mm)
2,600 Baal SAM batteries
60,000 M146 Despoiler MBTs
58,000 Sidewinder LAVs
7,600 F/A-104 Balefires
3,600 A-10 Thunderbolts
960 Behemoth heavy bombers
24 B-4 Paladin stealth bombers
4,600 AH-166 Twilight gunships
5,200 Lawgiver VTOL transports
1,400 C-7 Generia transport planes
80 Thunderbird AWACS planes
60 mobile command posts
1,800,000 associated personnel (medics, cooks, drivers, pilots, servants, techs, engineers, etc)
Associated transport trucks
Military engineering equipment and materials


:eek:Holy Crap dude, are all those forces attacking seattle?

That's ok.... I leave tomorrow on vacation for a week, with little to no computer access. Looks like we may have to put it on pause anyway.

:eek:Holy Crap dude, are all those forces attacking seattle?

Well, yes...but only a few of the ground forces have landed on the Pacific coast, about eighty miles from Seattle; the fleet is off your coast.

Couple questions about your last post, Duneria:

1. Where did these Quad Platforms come from? What are they? And what are Small-Arms-Deterrent Shields?
2. You didn't take losses in a few of the engagements that I RPed attacks in. For example, I dropped a slew of MOABs and HARMs on your air defense systems, I sent thousands of Balefires to attack your aircraft with guns blazing and missiles flying all over the place, and you didn't mention either. On a less important note, you did RP losses due to my bombarding your artillery and your entrenched infantry with my ships, but you were a little vague; can you do me a favor and give me an idea of how many losses you took?
3. I know RPing your losses is your business, but...well, how many subs were in the area when I launched torpedoes at them? Because a dozen subs lost due to a massive counterattack by automated systems that can predict fairly accurately where your subs are seems a little low...
4. Finally, your last attack I have to Ignore. You can't just send 75 heavy bombers into a sky swarming with Kregaian aircraft; by my calculations, I have almost fourteen thousand Balefires above my fleet, more than enough to have wiped out 75 bombers. Feel free to make the attack, just please don't do it in a way that ignores my defensive capabilities.

1.Sounds like Flak Guns on Trucks. Easy mass produced AAA vehicles.
And the shields sound like what they are, bullet proof shields.

2. Well if he was to be "accurate" he'd RP, "And nothing was left of the entire northwest except blasted landscape that resembled the surface of the moon."
Not a lot of fun.

3. He could have had only a dozen subs in the immediete area. The rest were farther out, they just put even more space between them and your fleet.

1.Sounds like Flak Guns on Trucks. Easy mass produced AAA vehicles.
And the shields sound like what they are, bullet proof shields.

2. Well if he was to be "accurate" he'd RP, "And nothing was left of the entire northwest except blasted landscape that resembled the surface of the moon."
Not a lot of fun.

3. He could have had only a dozen subs in the immediete area. The rest were farther out, they just put even more space between them and your fleet.

Touche for all three. To the first, yeah, it does seem simple, but you never know. Secondly, I'd be flattered if I'd done that much damage, I just wish I had an idea of what happened to the things I was aiming at. And finally, it makes much more sense if there were twelve or fourteen or so subs in the area, but he specifically stated that they retreated (implying survivors) and then those survivors launched 500 cruise missiles at my fleet, implying a LOT of survivors, which I'm confused about.

Just to note, I (Omni-Sense), am still here.

I haven't posted at all yet because the Omni won't get involved until Vet's side attempts to invade Vetalia.

Also, I read the first few pages of the main invasion thread and then kind of just stopped... so I don't really know what is going on and who is where. Summary anyone? :p

Just to note, I (Omni-Sense), am still here.

I haven't posted at all yet because the Omni won't get involved until Vet's side attempts to invade Vetalia.

Also, I read the first few pages of the main invasion thread and then kind of just stopped... so I don't really know what is going on and who is where. Summary anyone? :p

As I understand it, basically all the action is going on in Duneria, where Steel & Fire has deployed an elite task force to attack them and is doing fairly well; he's supporting it by his military installations on the island Pacifica, which is also under attack from Dunerian forces. I sent an invasion force to Duneria (a bit south of where S&F's people are), and I'm bombarding his defenses in the area; he's obviously mobilizing to stop me, and The Lone Alliance ambushed my fleet recently with some "suicide subs" on the seabed, which IC I am not sure who's responsible for, nor am I aware that there's more suicide subs down there. Aaaaand...I think that'll about do it.

Sorry for the lack of posts ya'll, busy week for me and I'm trying to catch up on RPs...I'll see how I can get back involved here...

Touche for all three. To the first, yeah, it does seem simple, but you never know. Secondly, I'd be flattered if I'd done that much damage, I just wish I had an idea of what happened to the things I was aiming at. And finally, it makes much more sense if there were twelve or fourteen or so subs in the area, but he specifically stated that they retreated (implying survivors) and then those survivors launched 500 cruise missiles at my fleet, implying a LOT of survivors, which I'm confused about.

Dammit!:headbang: I hate it when there's confusion, it grinds RP's to a halt.

However I will explain a lot, all in order to clear this up.

First of all, most of Northern Duneria, has been bombarded to the point of, oh I don't know, about a dozen years to bring it back to its former glory.
However some points still remain intact, and those are army bases or some towns. But for the most part, Northern Duneria is silent.

Secondly, I can probably understand the confusion about my subs. Due to the huge amount of ships that you have, I think it would only be fair to have a huge amount of ship's in my corner as well.

Remember: Duneria had been preparing for an invasion for at least 20 years (Ever since BL invaded Cazelia), they've been probably stockpiling a shitload of stuff. So that explains the numbers.

Anyway, the subs probably have 100 Cruise missiles each (retrofit from carrying nukes, which are pretty huge) so 500 Cruise missiles is pretty managable, since there's about 24 still in the water.

And lastly,

"4. Finally, your last attack I have to Ignore. You can't just send 75 heavy bombers into a sky swarming with Kregaian aircraft; by my calculations, I have almost fourteen thousand Balefires above my fleet, more than enough to have wiped out 75 bombers. Feel free to make the attack, just please don't do it in a way that ignores my defensive capabilities."

Okay, well know that I know, I'm probably going to send some escorts to help out the bombers.

Hope that helps ^-^

Anyway, the subs probably have 100 Cruise missiles each (retrofit from carrying nukes, which are pretty huge) so 500 Cruise missiles is pretty managable, since there's about 24 still in the water.


Not really manageable. The subs can't fire 100 cruise missiles each. They need to reload and then some subs would most likely would be hit from retaliating Anti-sub torps, etc.

Not really manageable. The subs can't fire 100 cruise missiles each. They need to reload and then some subs would most likely would be hit from retaliating Anti-sub torps, etc.

seeing a Tomahawk can be fired out of torpedo tude under water and is small then SLBM you can do what Duneria did

Well, know that you put it that way......

seeing a Tomahawk can be fired out of torpedo tude under water and is small then SLBM you can do what Duneria did

Ermmm...I wasn't talking to you. A sub can't fire 100 cruise missiles in a few seconds. Each sub has a certain number of torpedo tubes. After firing from the tubes, the subs need to reload the missiles, get their bearings, etc.

Ermmm...I wasn't talking to you. A sub can't fire 100 cruise missiles in a few seconds. Each sub has a certain number of torpedo tubes. After firing from the tubes, the subs need to reload the missiles, get their bearings, etc.

you can if you take out SLBM tubes and place them with Cruise missile VLS you just can't reload them at sea

Duneria Tomahawks can carry nukes so you are wrong about 'pretty huge' part

you can if you take out SLBM tubes and place them with Cruise missile VLS

You don't see the point. The point is, even if he uses the VLS, he can't fire 500 cruise missiles during an extremely short period of time. Anti-sub torps would hit some of the subs, reducing the number of cruise missiles that were meant to be launched.

You don't see the point. The point is, even if he uses the VLS, he can't fire 500 cruise missiles during an extremely short period of time. Anti-sub torps would hit some of the subs, reducing the number of cruise missiles that were meant to be launched.

who be that dumb at firing them that near to enemy ships and subs

who be that dumb at firing them that near to enemy ships and subs

1) Read Duneria's post.
2) Read the last few pages of this OOC thread.

Thanks. I kinda give up arguing with you.

.

Thanks. I kinda give up arguing with you.

you calling that a arguing you must be wack

you calling that a arguing you must be wack

Dude, seriously just shut up, please. You can't spell, make sentences, or anything else vital for making sense. So then, why should I listen to you? You lightly flame me, calling the points I come up with 'wack' or 'dum'.

Now, this is a thread for the Vetalia-ViZion war, of which you are not in. It would serve nice if you just left without having to make a comeback to this comment. Thanks. :)

Dude, seriously just shut up, please. You can't spell, make sentences, or anything else vital for making sense. So then, why should I listen to you? You lightly flame me, calling the points I come up with 'wack' or 'dum'.

Now, this is a thread for the Vetalia-ViZion war, of which you are not in. It would serve nice if you just left without having to make a comeback to this comment. Thanks. :)

so you sticking your nose into other OOC threads for other wars that you are not part don't count (yes i know you are of this, but call people out on something you do too) and yur i can't spell seeing learning was hard as i have dyslexia

Dammit!:headbang: I hate it when there's confusion, it grinds RP's to a halt.

However I will explain a lot, all in order to clear this up.

First of all, most of Northern Duneria, has been bombarded to the point of, oh I don't know, about a dozen years to bring it back to its former glory.
However some points still remain intact, and those are army bases or some towns. But for the most part, Northern Duneria is silent.

Secondly, I can probably understand the confusion about my subs. Due to the huge amount of ships that you have, I think it would only be fair to have a huge amount of ship's in my corner as well.

Remember: Duneria had been preparing for an invasion for at least 20 years (Ever since BL invaded Cazelia), they've been probably stockpiling a shitload of stuff. So that explains the numbers.

Anyway, the subs probably have 100 Cruise missiles each (retrofit from carrying nukes, which are pretty huge) so 500 Cruise missiles is pretty managable, since there's about 24 still in the water.

And lastly,

"4. Finally, your last attack I have to Ignore. You can't just send 75 heavy bombers into a sky swarming with Kregaian aircraft; by my calculations, I have almost fourteen thousand Balefires above my fleet, more than enough to have wiped out 75 bombers. Feel free to make the attack, just please don't do it in a way that ignores my defensive capabilities."

Okay, well know that I know, I'm probably going to send some escorts to help out the bombers.

Hope that helps ^-^

All right. Though as far as I know, I'm in southern Duneria, namely the Seattle area. About the subs, fair enough; and however many cruise missiles you want to RP, whether all five hundred or fewer, I'm fine with it. I just want to move on with the RP. Still, though, what are Quad Platforms and Small-Arms-Deterrent Shields? Is there anything I should know about them?

Okay, I'll be brief

1. Small-Arms-Deterrent shields are special issue armor given to soldier's about to go on dangerous missions (Like going in the face of enemy fire). There basicly like riot shields, except more heavy duty. They have an bullet-proof alloy that deflects most small-arms fire. However these shields don't do so well against heavier armament. There usually equipped to Shocktrooper's or Red Hands.

2. Quad platforms: trucks with heavy weaponry. Nothing more, nothing less. But there are a F**k-lot of them.

Okay, I'll be brief

1. Small-Arms-Deterrent shields are special issue armor given to soldier's about to go on dangerous missions (Like going in the face of enemy fire). There basicly like riot shields, except more heavy duty. They have an bullet-proof alloy that deflects most small-arms fire. However these shields don't do so well against heavier armament. There usually equipped to Shocktrooper's or Red Hands.
in other words a Ballistic Shield

Exactly

If none of them hit it up, I'd be glad to RP it...the Pacific has been kinda quiet so far in my sector.

Started the thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12980701#post12980701

Feel free to take it slow - I'm hoping ViZion will get involved, since it seems like Cazelia is no longer posting here and there goes one of the casus belli, another one might be needed. Since ViZion mentioned computer troubles, no rush.

Started the thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12980701#post12980701

Feel free to take it slow - I'm hoping ViZion will get involved, since it seems like Cazelia is no longer posting here and there goes one of the casus belli, another one might be needed. Since ViZion mentioned computer troubles, no rush.

Sounds good, I'll be there once I finish up my FT post for TPF...

Not to rush you, Duneria, but I'm still waiting for a reply for my second attack/beginning of my landing.

I Just posted it.

Okay for info on the Templars, Who here has played, or at least know about Tiberian Sun.

If so do you know about the Cyborg units in Tiberian Sun.

If so, that's basicly the Templars, except with a different way of being created and powered.

If you don't I'll be uploading a picture of them shortly.

Origin story of the project soon afterwards maybe.

Aye, I did and know what you're talking about.

I Just posted it.

Thanks dude...on the other hand, though I'm replying to your counterattack now...I know it's a chore to write about all the different engagements, but in your post you focused on your counterattack mostly at the expense of writing about losses from my attacks. Again, I'm not going to ignore it or anything, but it would really help me keep track of this stuff if you posted losses for all the different attacks I make. Regardless, I'm replying to your post now.

It's just that it's kinda hard to keep track of all the damage you do (since you do alot.)
However I will say that my beachhead positions are in pretty bad shape, we're just holding the line, having lost hundred's upon hundred's of guy's during your bombardment and attack's.

It's just that it's kinda hard to keep track of all the damage you do (since you do alot.)
However I will say that my beachhead positions are in pretty bad shape, we're just holding the line, having lost hundred's upon hundred's of guy's during your bombardment and attack's.

Lol yeah I know what you mean...sorry, but it's pretty much standard procedure for me to attack in as many ways at once as possible. Which is just fine IC, but I know OOCly it's annoying to keep track of.

Oh, and so you can get an idea of the size of the force attacking your beach, the Atlantis-class transports I'm using (being very big indeed) can carry roughly five thousand infantry.

Don't worry, there are plenty more of my troops where those came from.........

Don't worry, there are plenty more of my troops where those came from.........

I'm sure, judging by the numbers you're throwing at S&F. :p

Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll I got the idea that the government would conscript Duneria's scum to "redeem":rolleyes: themselves.
Put them under an equally psychotic commander, and presto!
A force of evil to be feared..... FEARED I SAY :gundge:

Your last RP entry get's a rating of...............
Freaking Awesomeness!!!!

Warmaster let me RP the subs countermeasures before you assign damage.

Warmaster let me RP the subs countermeasures before you assign damage.

All right.

EDIT: Done.

Does anyone know where Steel and Fire is?

In the forge

In the forge
*Smacks DMG*

*Smacks DMG*

Hehehehe

*Smacks DMG*

*Draws minigun and tears arart DMG in bloody mess*

and Dune, you might want to check out the endwar thread. its awsome :D:D:D

Excuse me, but DMG wears his anti-smack device and energy shield on... always.

Again, Duneria, I need a reply.

You'll have to wait a bit....
I've busy for a few day's.

Sorry I haven't been updating, I'm still waiting for Steel and Fire.

Amazonian Beasts:

So it seems this is moving somewhat slowly at the moment what with ViZion being MIA, but I just wanted to make sure that you hadn't missed the latest post in the Saudi thread.

Many apologies for the loooong absence. I was on vacation. <.<

I have a lot to catch up on, so don't expect a post today; but I'll have one up as soon as I can, perhaps tomorrow or Friday.

I'll join, my country is where iceland is now.

You're not the only one who's read art of war.

Oh and yes that IS a terrorist attack I'm pulling in your city, your DDOS took out transportation, hospitals and who knows what other systems. Car accidents and hospital patient deaths are now serious problems in TLA, the use of Nuclear weapons only increases the amount of reprisals. I'm going to make sure you share the suffering. Prepare to meet a very angry fifth column.

TLA, it's technically godmodding to set off a suicide bomb without RPing this guy's entrance into the country, even if he's supposedly been there for years. You're essentially launching a missile that he can't intercept, for the purposes of RP.

He's given no evidence that his people are even acting as if it was wartime, therefore there is no way someone would have any clue about a terrorist attack. Personally I feel it's godmode to assume a DDOS will automaticly shut down everything.

And I put them back in the previous thread where I encountered S&F. (At least I think so, might have been someone else)

He basicly launched two nukes I couldn't intercept, I believe a bomb that would kill around 20 people at max is no comparision.

He's given no evidence that his people are even acting as if it was wartime, therefore there is no way someone would have any clue about a terrorist attack. Personally I feel it's godmode to assume a DDOS will automaticly shut down everything.

And I put them back in the previous thread where I encountered S&F. (At least I think so, might have been someone else)

He basicly launched two nukes I couldn't intercept, I believe a bomb that would kill around 20 people at max is no comparision.

Well, looks like you and him are gonna have to work this out. I agree, he violated etiquette by practically RPing your losses, which you two are gonna have to talk out; plus I'm not familiar with this other thread. But, to be perfectly honest, I think both of you have violated etiquette and you two should work it out together.

Or we can accept both of those, It's kind of hard to put people in to a nation of you expect that you'd have to make a thread saying
"6 random people want to enter steel and Fire"

If a nation has relatively open borders, an infltration post is ludicrious.

You're not the only one who's read art of war.

Oh and yes that IS a terrorist attack I'm pulling in your city, your DDOS took out transportation, hospitals and who knows what other systems. Car accidents and hospital patient deaths are now serious problems in TLA, the use of Nuclear weapons only increases the amount of reprisals. I'm going to make sure you share the suffering. Prepare to meet a very angry fifth column.
Actually, the DDoS didn't take out anything but your computer systems. The EMP took out transportation, et cetera. Slight difference. ;)

He's given no evidence that his people are even acting as if it was wartime, therefore there is no way someone would have any clue about a terrorist attack. Personally I feel it's godmode to assume a DDOS will automaticly shut down everything.
S&F is made up of the employees of a former military corporation (Kraven-style), as I've stated at a certain point. So yes, nobody would have any clue about terrorist attacks, but they're also kind of stupid because everyone owns weapons of some kind -- guns, rocket launchers, war-surplus tanks. If you're remotely suspected of being a terrorist, you'll likely be shot.

Also, given that real life DDoS attacks shut down the nation of Estonia for a few hours and it took several days to repulse the attacks, I don't see why a NS scale, PMT era DDoS attack couldn't shut down part of TLA for a few minutes and take several hours to fully repulse the attack. Remember that anything accessible from an outside server can come under attack; only a server that runs on its own generators in which the individual computers are connected by VPN cables and there is no access to anything beyond the walls of the building will be completely unaffected.

And I put them back in the previous thread where I encountered S&F.
No ya di'n't.

He basicly launched two nukes I couldn't intercept, I believe a bomb that would kill around 20 people at max is no comparision.
There are ways to intercept them, if you know they're coming. Anyway, I accuse you of 'Playing To Win' and 'Lack of Creativity'. So there.

Well, looks like you and him are gonna have to work this out. I agree, he violated etiquette by practically RPing your losses, which you two are gonna have to talk out; plus I'm not familiar with this other thread. But, to be perfectly honest, I think both of you have violated etiquette and you two should work it out together.
I accept his terrorist attack, I just note that it won't change much; people will just look sympathetically at the bloody remains and murmur, "Pity some people never learn how to use a handgrenade properly...."

Regardless of whether an infiltration post is ludicrous, or whether it's impossible to stop a DDoS attack, you still have to play by the rules. Nobody wants to RP agents infiltrating and going through all the boring paperwork before finally being able to buy black-market stuff to make a bomb, but there you go. Nor does anyone want to be called a bad sport for explaining OOC that it is pretty much impossible to stop the attack you just made. I don't wanna sound like a rules freak...I also don't want this to devolve into OOC bitching. If you two are willing to accept each others' attacks, it's fine with me.

Actually, the DDoS didn't take out anything but your computer systems. The EMP took out transportation, et cetera. Slight difference. ;) Anything run by computers that has an internet type connection= Everything in a PMT nation.
Even traffic lights are run by a server hub at a DOT location that has internet access, DDOS= Overload= Shutdown= Dead Lights. Hospital systems DDOS=Overload=Shutdown=Systems fail.
That's what I meant by traffic accidents, and hospital deaths.

S&F is made up of the employees of a former military corporation (Kraven-style), as I've stated at a certain point. So yes, nobody would have any clue about terrorist attacks, but they're also kind of stupid because everyone owns weapons of some kind -- guns, rocket launchers, war-surplus tanks. If you're remotely suspected of being a terrorist, you'll likely be shot. Considering the Terrorists I rp are largely of military style behaviors , they'd blend right in.


Also, given that real life DDoS attacks shut down the nation of Estonia for a few hours and it took several days to repulse the attacks, I don't see why a NS scale, PMT era DDoS attack couldn't shut down part of TLA for a few minutes and take several hours to fully repulse the attack. Remember that anything accessible from an outside server can come under attack; only a server that runs on its own generators in which the individual computers are connected by VPN cables and there is no access to anything beyond the walls of the building will be completely unaffected. TLA IS shutdown, they 'turned' off the internet, which cut all communications to each other.
I'm saying your attack wasn't just effective it was REALLY effective, mainly due to TLA's fear.

No ya di'n't. Yeah you're right, that was Red Tide.


There are ways to intercept them, if you know they're coming. Anyway, I accuse you of 'Playing To Win' and 'Lack of Creativity'. So there. Bah, I didn't really have a problem with your post at all, I was just using it as a debating point.

I accept his terrorist attack, I just note that it won't change much; people will just look sympathetically at the bloody remains and murmur, "Pity some people never learn how to use a handgrenade properly...."
Just like I'll accept the EMP attack, it's going to give me a VERY interesting RP, considering that 90% of TLA's South Alaskan Airforce is now out of the picture until repairs.

That because of the network shutdown every base is operating like it's the last base on earth, and the capital is blind and deaf because all server connections have been cut.

Anything run by computers that has an internet type connection= Everything in a PMT nation.
Even traffic lights are run by a server hub at a DOT location that has internet access, DDOS= Overload= Shutdown= Dead Lights. Hospital systems DDOS=Overload=Shutdown=Systems fail.
That's what I meant by traffic accidents, and hospital deaths.
"Oh". Yeah, I see what you mean.

Considering the Terrorists I rp are largely of military style behaviors , they'd blend right in.

Right. I wrote up a post of response to the terrorist attack, but Jolt logged me out and it disappeared; so assume about 10-15 people in a busy Arcadian shopping mall ceased to be.


TLA IS shutdown, they 'turned' off the internet, which cut all communications to each other.
I'm saying your attack wasn't just effective it was REALLY effective, mainly due to TLA's fear.
Ah, I must have misunderstood.

Bah, I didn't really have a problem with your post at all, I was just using it as a debating point.
Ok then, accepted.

Once Duneria has posted, I'll move on with my Master Plan™ and proceed to invade Alaska and give you a chance at that interesting RP situation. ;) I wonder if EMP leaves some kind of residue, meaning that once I venture into Alaska, my computers will be shot as well? *ponders*

I wonder if EMP leaves some kind of residue, meaning that once I venture into Alaska, my computers will be shot as well? *ponders*

It doesn't.

Been considering sending some forces over to help in the invasion, seeing as I have nothing to do otherwise without ViZion around. Any place in particular that could use some men?

TLA isn't out of the fight, I still have some Phoneix Dynamic Vehicles as well as a huge swarm of Foxbats. (Both are immune to EMPs) Sure the shore batteries will be forced to run on 60 year old generators or hand cranks and the SAMs are down but it's not over yet.

Shore defenses per 20 mile area:
2 210 Shore defense guns (Bunkered 1 every 10 miles)
15 120mm Turrets (Concrete Buildings)
12 Machinegun nests (Exposed)
12 SAMs (Under repair)
21 88mm AA guns
10 Machinegun nests (Pillbox)
9155mm Guns (3 in three Bunkers every 7 miles )
Crew 600 Coast Guard soldiers, Standard equipped army.

Still waiting for a reply from Duneria...if he can't be more active than this, I wonder if I should just do my normal 'assume no resistance' thing and move to attack someone else.

OOC: If you've noticed, I've got a lot of thing's to do. (It's that time of the year.) As a result, I may get back to the threads every weekend.
I'll try....
Don't worry Warmaster, Duneria's got a lot of fight in her.
It just takes time.
patience is a virtue.

OOC: If you've noticed, I've got a lot of thing's to do. (It's that time of the year.) As a result, I may get back to the threads every weekend.
I'll try....
Don't worry Warmaster, Duneria's got a lot of fight in her.
It just takes time.
patience is a virtue.

Dude, believe me, I understand, and real life ALWAYS comes first. But then it's up to you to let people know that you're inactive. I'm trying to be patient, dude, but there hasn't been a post from you in forever. I think it would be best for everyone if I retconned the invasion of Duneria and head for TLA instead. If you can't keep up with the RP, dude, leave so that you have more time to take care of real life.

What does Ret-Con mean? If it means pausing, then I'm all for it.

What does Ret-Con mean? If it means pausing, then I'm all for it.

Retcon stands for retroactive continuity; it means, in an NS sense, taking back what you've done and assuming it never happened. So for RP purposes, the invasion of Duneria never occurred. Both of us are intact. I'll keep the sub casualties because I'm assuming TLA would have done the same if I were up the coast.

Oh crap, I just posted.... look, if you want you can ignore it.
It's your choice.
I'm fine with either/or.

I saw the post...honestly, though, I think it's better off retconned. I'll take it back and instead support S&F in TLA. If you get some extra time on your hands, feel free to send your troops north to fight me there.

Sound's good, I'll ret-con.
Happy battles!

Warmaster. You could say you simply secured a beachead in Duneria and then dug in on a stationary front.

And S&F... I'm debating on what is the correct course of action to respond to a Sub launched Ballistic Missile.

You can expect it will be severe.

Oh and this is off topic but Warmaster I doubt you'll get much of a RP out of Doomingsland.

I've been waiting for months for him to respond to me.

I'm considering starting a new thread for the Invasion of TLA, given that the current thread no longer focuses on Cazelia or even Duneria....

S&F, that's actually a pretty good idea. I vote for it. Right now this war is a complete misnomer. TLA: Meh. It wouldn't make any sense for my nation to do that IC; once we land, we pretty much keep going until we're done with what we came to do. Probably better to retcon and start over. And Doom is a busy guy (aren't we all), but we're friends and we talk in RL a lot, so that helps.

Yay I'm dogpiled!

I'm getting sick of it just being us.

S&F, could you start up the new thread please?

This doesn't seem like it will ever get to the point where I am involved.

Certainly not unless ViZion returns it seems.

Everyone died of dysentery since everyone bowed out.