NationStates Jolt Archive

In an effort to keep the war over Crystal Island from sucking, I have elected to make the thread closed.

Anyone wishing to help CA should get approval from BC or I first.

Anyone wishing to help NPE should get approval from TPF or Wanderjar first.

One thing I should mention that is not shown on the map is that the island is somewhat mountainous (it was owned by Crystal Mountains before). Crystal Mountains had no map, so I am going to arbitrarily say that the folllow areas are mountainous:

- the penninsula in the southwest
- the center of the island
- the land surrounding the huge lake

These mountains are all connected, and form a diagonal. The size of the island is roughly the same as Iceland, whose map I used. The climate is temperate with forrest except at high elevations.

Have fun and keep it clean.

Alright.

Does the closed to tag apply to anyone not in either alliance or is it a general closed to everyone who has no permission?

Also, in the case that I am allowed in, what sort of things are you looking for from the CA? More troops? More Navy? More Money?

Does the closed to tag apply to anyone not in either alliance or is it a general closed to everyone who has no permission?

Also, in the case that I am allowed in, what sort of things are you looking for from the CA? More troops? More Navy? More Money?

At this point, it is closed to everyone without express permission. You, Undershi, Pudu, United Ed States, Leaf, and BC are all welcome to join if you are so inclined. I was away for a while, so I don't know the new guys very well, so I will have to check them out before letting them in (or BC can).

On the NPE side of things, it is up to TPF and Wandy to decide who they want involved.

edit: To answer your question, I would say naval and air power are most needed.

Nero, what does your nation call itself and do you have IM?

Nero, what does your nation call itself and do you have IM?

I just sent you a telegram with my IM info.

My nation is typically referred to as "The Domain of Emperor Nero", but is frequently just called "the Empire" by its inhabitants. Citizens are called Neroians.

I just sent you a telegram with my IM info.

My nation is typically referred to as "The Domain of Emperor Nero", but is frequently just called "the Empire" by its inhabitants. Citizens are called Neroians.

ok, added.

edit: To answer your question, I would say naval and air power are most needed.

Okidoodle, I'll make up a post now, by the way, how likely are we to be engaged in armed conflict with the NPE?

EDIT: Also, if we hold onto CI then could other nations in the CA use it as a launching pad for more incursions?

Okidoodle, I'll make up a post now, by the way, how likely are we to be engaged in armed conflict with the NPE?

EDIT: Also, if we hold onto CI then could other nations in the CA use it as a launching pad for more incursions?

I am not privy to NPE's plans, but I suspect an attack on the island is inevitable. As there are a few different invasions going on, it could be that they concentrate their efforts elsewhere first.

Yes, I am hoping the island will be a launching pad for other incursions.

Nero, I am going to launch a missile attack, It might say ICBMs, but they are not nuclear armed.


Fist of Binaria Class ICBM
Length: (23.6 m)
Diameter: (3.2 m)
Total Fueled Weight: (68,486 kg)
Empty Weight: (12,221 kg)
Hydrazinium nitroformate (HNF) Weight: 68,760 lb (38,189 kg)
Triethylaluminium Weight: (13,796 kg) (20,432)
Thrust: 1500 kN
ISP: 334
Burning time: 4 min. 58 sec.
Range: (8,600 km)
Flight time: varibable
Reentry velocity: 7900 m/s
Acceleration: (74 m/s²)
Warhead: (1450 kg)
Fusing: Proximity and Impact
Guidance: GPS
CEP 12 meters

Since I'm NPE and I was going to helpout Crystal Mountain before he left, I guess I'll just hop in with what's going.

1010102, I'll respond to that missile attack as soon as TPF approves of your participation. While it isn't my place to tell you that you can't use ICBM's, I should warn you that my leader will likely assume a nuclear attack is in progress when I detect your massive missile launch.

Everyone else,

I won't be doing a ton of stuff until TPF has had the opportunity to approve some NPE guys to fight. I'll mostly just engage in diplomatic stuff and detail my treatment of the locals.

Unless the NPE pisses off the island's inhabitants with a lot of collateral damage, a resistance movement will pop up eventually. TPF and I have agreed that I will roleplay the resistance for the time being, but that may change eventually.

1010102, I'll respond to that missile attack as soon as TPF approves of your participation. While it isn't my place to tell you that you can't use ICBM's, I should warn you that my leader will likely assume a nuclear attack is in progress when I detect your massive missile launch.

Who in there right mind would launch 50 missiles per carrier with nuclear warheads. And how could possibley think that they would be nuclear with that many aimed at an island the size of iceland?

Nero, I approve binaria.

Nero, I approve binaria.

Y yo...? You did say you wanted my forces, plus, I'm already here :)

Y yo...? You did say you wanted my forces, plus, I'm already here :)

Get on MSN.

Get on MSN.

I can't stay long, but I'm headed there :p

NPE folks, please port the ORBAT's of your fleets before using them. Thanks.

Yo Nero, I'm not gonna be able to keep my fleet there for much longer, so ye might wanna move some forces to protect the East Coast pretty soonish.

Yo Nero, I'm not gonna be able to keep my fleet there for much longer, so ye might wanna move some forces to protect the East Coast pretty soonish.

No worries.

Nero, I am going to launch a missile attack, It might say ICBMs, but they are not nuclear armed.


Fist of Binaria Class ICBM
Length: (23.6 m)
Diameter: (3.2 m)
Total Fueled Weight: (68,486 kg)
Empty Weight: (12,221 kg)
Hydrazinium nitroformate (HNF) Weight: 68,760 lb (38,189 kg)
Triethylaluminium Weight: (13,796 kg) (20,432)
Thrust: 1500 kN
ISP: 334
Burning time: 4 min. 58 sec.
Range: (8,600 km)
Flight time: varibable
Reentry velocity: 7900 m/s
Acceleration: (74 m/s²)
Warhead: (1450 kg)
Fusing: Proximity and Impact
Guidance: GPS
CEP 12 meters
No nucleaur weapons in the warheads? Oh, you should fill the warheads with peanut butter then.

It'll stick the aircraft to their carriers, clog up the props and engines, and unleash a massive outbreak of allergies to all those allergic to it.

Trust me, peanut butter is the way to go.

ICBM is a term used to describe any missile that can hit targets at very long ranges, so it doesn't mean a nuclear attack. Anyone who designs missiles knows that. My nuclear ICBMs are far larger than this. These are just supersized scuds. Once you understand that we can countinue.

ICBM is a term used to describe any missile that can hit targets at very long ranges, so it doesn't mean a nuclear attack. Anyone who designs missiles knows that. My nuclear ICBMs are far larger than this. These are just supersized scuds. Once you understand that we can countinue.

I know what ICBM's are, thank you.

ICBM's are expensive to build and house. Sensible nations do not build them to delivery dinky conventional warheads. Given that fact, when ICBM's are launched at me, I expect the worst and react accordingly. If I reacted any differently, it would be because I was using OOC information IC.

If for example, the former Soviet Union launched 800 ICBM's at Hawaii, the United States' might not react in the exact same fashion I have, but you can bet your ass the US president would be calling up the Kremlin making all sorts of threats, and would eventually launch their own ICBM's.

To be honest, I also have an OOC motivation for behaving in this fashion (especially the peace offering part). UFAN appears to be entering this war soon. I roleplay a nation in that alliance, and I'm hoping to avoid a conflict of interest.

I know what ICBM's are, thank you.

ICBM's are expensive to build and house. Sensible nations do not build them to delivery dinky conventional warheads. Given that fact, when ICBM's are launched at me, I expect the worst and react accordingly. If I reacted any differently, it would be because I was using OOC information IC.

If for example, the former Soviet Union launched 800 ICBM's at Hawaii, the United States' might not react in the exact same fashion I have, but you can bet your ass the US president would be calling up the Kremlin making all sorts of threats, and would eventually launch their own ICBM's.

To be honest, I also have an OOC motivation for behaving in this fashion (especially the peace offering part). UFAN appears to be entering this war soon. I roleplay a nation in that alliance, and I'm hoping to avoid a conflict of interest.

OOC: I will not back down, and you have 6 from launch to impact, so by the time you are ready to launch you will know that they are non nuclear. If you do nuke me back you will suffer for it.

OOC: I will not back down, and you have 6 from launch to impact, so by the time you are ready to launch you will know that they are non nuclear. If you do nuke me back you will suffer for it.

I'm going to wait to see what TPF says.

My forces have left the Theatre, sorry EN, you're on your own buddy!

I'm going to wait to see what TPF says.

he'll tell you the samething.

I like Nero's surrender terms. They are accepted. Call off the IRBM attack.

I like Nero's surrender terms. They are accepted. Call off the IRBM attack.

ok. I'll back down.

Good thing I didn't shoot yet...

Agreed.

For the record, I didn't surrender :)

Even though I am exiting the war, I want to point something out. The NPE regional map is home to around 30 billion people. Considering all the water you have plus some unclaimed land, it is safe to say your map is HUGE. Those 8,600 km range missiles would have never reached me.

It is a moot point now, but that is something for BOTH SIDES to keep in mind in these other war threads. A single inch on that map probably represents 1,000 to 2,000 miles.

Some sort of IC response to my proposal would be desireable. With that settled, I can get on with diplomatic messages, roleplaying the occupation, etc.

Nero is leaving the war? is what I said correct? :(

He is leaving the war.

As it would seem we have agreed to terms, I expect there will be some sort of announcement by NPE recognizing Emperor Nero to be Crystal Island's rightful owner?

That wasn't apart of the terms, was it?

That wasn't apart of the terms, was it?

I am referring to this part of the terms

"- The NPE recognize the Empire's claim of ownership over Crystal Island"

Usually recognizing a nation or claim comes in the form of some sort of statement.

Alright, will do.

I am going to try to continue roleplaying my occupation of Crystal Island. There will be some resistance to my rule, and I want to give you guys an idea what your new neighbors are doing...

Having said that, there is a ton of stuff going on with CA, some of which will be of a higher priority.

To give you a general idea what I will be doing...

- Ground troop levels in Crystal Island will top out around 600,000 men.
- I will continue bringing in aircraft until I have 500-700
- The island will be fortified in similar fashion as my homeland.
- As more aircraft arrive, the bulk of my fleet will leave. My new fleet ORBAT will be:

Fleet (half deployed north of island other half south):
2 Gerald R. Ford Class Supercarriers
6 Zumwalt II Class Destroyers
6 Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruisers
8 Arleigh Burke Class Missile Destroyers
8 Brandenburg Class ASW Frigates
8 Sachsen Class Air Defense Frigates
10 Allegro Class Submarines

Coast Guard:
20 Pegasus II Class Patrol Boats
40 Jolly Roger Class Patrol Boats

Nero,
You should definately add the Crystal Island-Nero conflict into NSWiki. Even though very little combat took place, the negotiations and ending temrs of the conflict are comparable to a RL one. Not to mention, although you may be "limited" in the rest of the CA conflict due to the ending treaty terms, you still now own a new island. Bravo! With very little RP combat, you have one more island.

Nero,
You should definately add the Crystal Island-Nero conflict into NSWiki. Even though very little combat took place, the negotiations and ending temrs of the conflict are comparable to a RL one. Not to mention, although you may be "limited" in the rest of the CA conflict due to the ending treaty terms, you still now own a new island. Bravo! With very little RP combat, you have one more island.

If I have time, I may just do that.

I feel kinda bad for you though. I dragged you into this, and you didn't get to do anything.

Maybe we could team up and go after a non-NPE nation? There are a few fighting the CA at the moment.