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ATTN Lord Sumguy. WAR!

Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 18:19
CLOSED.

SIC:

The Imperator sits in his office at Rome, surrounded by his generals. He raises an arm to wave at them, and they in turn salute him.

Imperator: Salvete! This is, of course, a matter of Cooperate Alliance politics. Apparently, Blackhelm ain't too happy with Lord Sumguy, so...we are going to send Lord Sumguy a very clear message. Capiche?

General 1: That's Kosher, boss.

The Imperator immediately takes out his pistol and shoots General 1 in the face. Aids come in from outdoors to drag out the body of the dead General.

Imperator: Anyone else wanna use some ecumenical terminology?

The Imperator glances menacingly at the non dead generals. They all shake their heads in unison.

Imperator: So, we're gonna go in fast and strike hard. Is that clear?

The generals nod, again, in unison...and then leave.

Semi Secret IC...midnight, Lord Sumguy:

10 Vangaurd Class Ballistic Submarines lie submerged deep beneath the waves off the coast of Lord Sumguy. They have chosen as their entry point a relatively rural area, hopefully far from the watch of the Lord Sumguyan government.

It is currently midnight, when everyone should be asleep. From beneath the depths...there is suddenly activity...

IC:

All of a sudden, hundreds of conventional Trident ballistic missiles break away from the surface of the ocean, having as their target the nearest Ports, the nearest military installations, as well as the nearest city, obviously intended for their complete decimation.

Meanwhile, less than a hundred miles away is the entirety of Rome's Imperial Airforce. (http://www.freewebs.com/romanorum/gensromaearmy.htm)
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 18:37
Lord Sumguy was looking over paperwork, when one of his cell phones rang. Why would the AL contact me now? he thought, answering the phone to which only Abrahamic League members knew the number.

Southeastern coast of the Empire:

The reverend George Claxton, leader of the local chapter of the Abrahamc League, was giving a sermon when the cathedral shook and a series of explosions could be heard from outside. The service was immediately halted, as many of the male paritioners rushed into other rooms of the cathedral. These were AL fighters, and they were arming themselves for whatever was going on. Several minutes later, a man burst in and told the preist what was happening. The reverend crossed himself, and called Lord Sumguy.

"This is George Claxton of the 8th chapter of the AL, the city is under attack, we dont know what by, but we are scrambling the fighters that your government sold us several years ago, and they should find whatever it is."

Lord Sumguy was shocked. "What about my army? Why hasn't it responded?"

"We think they hit all of the nearby bases with similar attacks."

"Alright, try to find out who is attacking and fight them, the military will be there shortly to deal with whoever it is."

"Yes sir."

Lord Sumguy imediately called General Mcalpin. Within minutes, nearly 600 F-16s and 75 F-22 raptors began to take of from airbases across the country, and several infantry and armor divisions began to make their way to the city.

Meanwhile, the AL had gathered around 12,000 men to defend the area, and 80 AL-owned F-16s flew in the direction of the attack.

OOC: are you gonna get the whole CA to dogpile on me, or is it just you attacking?
Vontanas
03-08-2007, 18:38
OOC: I need to know, as I have territory in the region, are those missles nuclear, chemical, or biological?
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 18:40
OOC: I need to know, as I have territory in the region, are those missles nuclear, chemical, or biological?

OOC: he said conventional
Greston
03-08-2007, 18:41
12:27, 100 Miles Outside of Sumguyian Territorial Waters, Aboard Irondeck "Greyscale"

The beautiful water sounds against the boat, the screaming seagulls, the gentle rock of the boat against the waters waves, even the loud roar of over 100 aircrafts prepared for battle.

"What!" the general ripped out of bed and went to the radar room. "Corpral Hevvings, don't you notice that. (he said that while pointing at a large bunch up green blob on the rader above them.) That is an entirety of a airforce for Gens Romae."

"I did notice that but how do you know that it is Gens aircrafts?"

"Rember the report they sent out on what their military is, that is exactly it's military. It looks like they are going to Lord Sumguy. So I want them shot out of the sky!"

"But that is a war crime!"

"Yes but do you want all the Hegemony reps to die, their meeting is going on right now!!"

"Dear god your right. I'll call up the Rester and have them kill any planes that make it out of here."

"Good."
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 18:42
OOC:

Greston, aren't you in the CA?
Greston
03-08-2007, 18:44
OOC: No. But I have alot of allies in it
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 18:55
IC, a rural area in Lord Sumguy:

Helicopters. Thousands upon thousands of helicopters. If any person were to look towards that particular direction, that is what that person would see. 5000 CH-53Es begin, in waves of 200, to land. Their doors open, platforms dropping out, and out come waves upon waves of Sherridan tanks (5000 in total). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M551_Sheridan)

Meanwhile, 800 F15's scream overhead to meet the 80 fighters organized to thwart them off. they fly in formations of 10, and appear as arrowheads in the sky. When they come into range, their guns begin to fire an incredible volley of bullets, literally thousands upon thousands, against the relatively small number opposing them.

800 B-52's meanwhile coast high in the sky, out of range of most ground weapons, and coast over the small ground force gathered against them. They begin to release their payload, scattering hundreds of napalm charges upon those below.

IC, off the shores of Lord Sumguy:

The remaining 200 F-15's are surprised to see aircraft chasing after them, especially from a non Lord Sumguyan force. One of the pilots attempt to establish radio contact:

Stand down, troopers. Stand down. You attack us, you attack the CA.

OOC: No, it's a one on one, Sumguy.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 18:59
OOC: First off the planes can't be there yet because two boats not planes attacked them so you did not set off the napalms

OOC: Ah, well that's even better. 200 fighters is more than enough to thwart off the force that you mentioned. The 200 fighters remained behind while the rest landed. My post stands. Simply put, there's no way that you can catch my airforce with your boats.
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:01
IC, a rural area in Lord Sumguy:

Helicopters. Thousands upon thousands of helicopters. If any person were to look towards that particular direction, that is what that person would see. 5000 CH-53Es begin, in waves of 200, to land. Their doors open, platforms dropping out, and out come waves upon waves of Sherridan tanks (5000 in total). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M551_Sheridan)

Meanwhile, 800 F15's scream overhead to meet the 80 fighters organized to thwart them off. they fly in formations of 10, and appear as arrowheads in the sky. When they come into range, their guns begin to fire an incredible volley of bullets, literally thousands upon thousands, against the relatively small number opposing them.

800 B-52's meanwhile coast high in the sky, out of range of most ground weapons, and coast over the small ground force gathered against them. They begin to release their payload, scattering hundreds of napalm charges upon those below.

IC, off the shores of Lord Sumguy:

The remaining 200 F-15's are surprised to see aircraft chasing after them, especially from a non Lord Sumguyan force. One of the pilots attempt to establish radio contact:

Stand down, troopers. Stand down. You attack us, you attack the CA.

OOC: No, it's a one on one, Sumguy.

OOC: First off the planes can't be there yet because two boats not planes attacked them so you did not set off the napalms
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:03
The planes were far more larger in numbers, and most likely in technology as well. But to protect an ally was like protecting Greston, so the Irondecks did not let up. They fired Tomahawks at any plane that got to close. They weren't ready for the attack so the first batch of Tomahawks did more damage. They fired a second batch and watched in amazement at the fire show that errupted from the missles.

"Stop gazing at it ya idiots! Fire and don't stop!" Yelled the captain as he walked across the deck. As he said that men started taking up turrets as well and let out thousands of bullets at the planes.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:06
The fighters respond merely by turning on their backburners, and screaming up to high altitude...and disappearing completely, going to meet the rest of the airforce which is by now long gone.

OOC: Dood, a boat against airplanes? No.
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:13
The fighters respond merely by turning on their backburners, and screaming up to high altitude...and disappearing completely, going to meet the rest of the airforce which is by now long gone.

OOC: Dood, a boat against airplanes? No.

OOC: Dude this happens tons of times in wars and your planes came to me, my boats were there when your planes came making a racket and woke us up. My boats were there for a week actually, not in that exact spot but in that area and in Lord Sumguy.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:14
OOC: Dude this happens tons of times in wars and your planes came to me, my boats were there when your planes came making a racket and woke us up. My boats were there for a week actually, not in that exact spot but in that area and in Lord Sumguy.

OOC: Well I went around. :D
Blackhelm Confederacy
03-08-2007, 19:15
Dear Leader of Greston,

It has come to my attention that you have moved forces against a member of the Corporate Alliance, a member who was on a specific mission tasked to him by Claudius Griffincrest himself. Should you continue to press on this assault and stand in the way of the Roman forces, than your own homeland shall fall under attack by a nation of the Alliance. You have exactly one half hour to respond and stand down.

Sincerely,
Jack Phoenixclaw, Chairman, Board of Directors, Griffincrest Oil Inc.
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 19:20
IC, a rural area in Lord Sumguy:

Helicopters. Thousands upon thousands of helicopters. If any person were to look towards that particular direction, that is what that person would see. 5000 CH-53Es begin, in waves of 200, to land. Their doors open, platforms dropping out, and out come waves upon waves of Sherridan tanks (5000 in total). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M551_Sheridan)

Meanwhile, 800 F15's scream overhead to meet the 80 fighters organized to thwart them off. they fly in formations of 10, and appear as arrowheads in the sky. When they come into range, their guns begin to fire an incredible volley of bullets, literally thousands upon thousands, against the relatively small number opposing them.


800 B-52's meanwhile coast high in the sky, out of range of most ground weapons, and coast over the small ground force gathered against them. They begin to release their payload, scattering hundreds of napalm charges upon those below.

IC, off the shores of Lord Sumguy:

The remaining 200 F-15's are surprised to see aircraft chasing after them, especially from a non Lord Sumguyan force. One of the pilots attempt to establish radio contact:

Stand down, troopers. Stand down. You attack us, you attack the CA.

OOC: No, it's a one on one, Sumguy.

OOC: the AL is a guerrilla organization, when they prepare a defence, they scatter into the countryside and set up hidden ambushes. Also, you only have 2000 helicopters in your entire military.

IC: The AL fighters watched as napalm spread over the countryside, killing only about 100 of them. They were far to spread out for carpet bombing to be effective. All across the area stinger sites were set up to destroy any incoming aircraft, nearly 500 launchers being in the possesion of the local AL militia. Meanwhile, 56 AL F-22 stealth fighters flew to intercept the bombers, who would be decimated by their attack, as there was no fighter escort with them.

Armor and mechanized infantry units steadily approached the area, numbering at 175,000 infantrymen and 15,000 vehicles, and set up anti-air defences against the coming air attack.

General Mcalpin looked at the radar screens in front of him. "Their entire airforce eh? well that was foolish of them. Bomb their military bases."

43 B-2 stealth bombers, escorted by another 85 F-22 stealth fighters, took off from the Empire, and began a bombing run against Gen Romae military bases. There would be no defence, as there were no aircraft to defend the nation with and the attacking aircraft were nearly undetectable.


OOC: the AL is a paramilitary organization numbering at about 500,000 members and almost unanimously supported within the Empire.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:20
OOC: Here's the thing. You declared a battle, I didn't. The fact of the matter is that there is no way that this battle is going to occur. In the first, because you have 2 battleships in a very finite space. Simply put, I don't have to pass through that area, nor did I have any intention to do so (Ergo, yours was the original god mode).

That said, even if we did go in that area, my planes are highly mobile and fast moving in comparison to your own naval force, and therefore I still have the capacity to retreat from battle, even if our forces did make contact.

Simply put, this is why I have an airforce in the first place. :D
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:21
OOC: Then that would be a godmod, because you said they went around after the fact that we fired upon you, so lets stop this oOC arguing and you can go back and have a real battle, I don't care if you sink the ships, I will just get a few kills
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:21
OOC: the AL is a guerrilla organization, when they prepare a defence, they scatter into the countryside and set up hidden ambushes.

Ah, ok. Hm...then instead of bombing your forces, assume that the bombers are boming your nearest military bases.
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:25
Dear Claudius Griffincrest,

It has come to my attention that you and the vermin of the Coporate Alliance have attacked a dear ally of mine. And not only that but currently I am in that nation. You are in this war for your alliance and I am in it for mine. If you take this war to another nation and leave my allies alone I will step aside but until Gens Romae declares peace, he may suffer the death of his men and soldiers.
Cazelia
03-08-2007, 19:27
Cazelian supercarrier IDS Reaper, off the coast of lord Sumguy

"pilots to your aircraft! marines to battle-stations!" yelled the captain through his loudspeaker, as F/A-11s and VF-12s were launched from their catapults. the fleet had two escort ships. a battlecruiser called IDS Hunter and a destroyer called IDS Enduring freedom. the fighters set an intercept course towardds the enemy F-15s...
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:30
OOC: Here's the thing. You declared a battle, I didn't. The fact of the matter is that there is no way that this battle is going to occur. In the first, because you have 2 battleships in a very finite space. Simply put, I don't have to pass through that area, nor did I have any intention to do so (Ergo, yours was the original god mode).

That said, even if we did go in that area, my planes are highly mobile and fast moving in comparison to your own naval force, and therefore I still have the capacity to retreat from battle, even if our forces did make contact.

Simply put, this is why I have an airforce in the first place. :D

OOC: Okay so lets leave the way it is, I attacked you sped up and ran off, Ok I agree no more arguing. But for the fact I did fire and at a close range before you sped off a few of your planes and helicopters had to have died so I want to know how many
Blackhelm Confederacy
03-08-2007, 19:30
Dear Claudius Griffincrest,

It has come to my attention that you and the vermin of the Coporate Alliance have attacked a dear ally of mine. And not only that but currently I am in that nation. You are in this war for your alliance and I am in it for mine. If you take this war to another nation and leave my allies alone I will step aside but until Gens Romae declares peace, he may suffer the death of his men and soldiers.

Dear Greston Leadership,

Gens Romae will be tasked on anothernation on one condition. The Hegemoney Alliance declares its official neutrality in the ongoing Corporate-Prussian war. Once we recieve the public declaration, you and your friends will be left alone.

Sincerely,
Jack Phoenixclaw, Chairman, Board of Investors, Griffincrest Oil Inc.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:38
OOC: the AL is a guerrilla organization, when they prepare a defence, they scatter into the countryside and set up hidden ambushes. Also, you only have 2000 helicopters in your entire military.

OOC: Check out the reference site I gave. I have a crapload of CH-53's. It isn't a matter of me not being able to afford them. I have a defense budget of over 300 bil.


IC: The 200 fighters just coming in come to the aid of the B-52s, firing a volley of missiles at the said 56 AL F-52s...albeit not before a few of the bombers plummet to the ground. The B-52s turn around and begin to fly back towards the coast.

Meanwihle, at the said coast, the helicopters are just about finished unloading their payload of infantry.

On Sumguyan soil, then, now stand the following:

5000 M551 Sheridan Light Tanks
12,000 AGF Light Infantry Vehicles
12,000 M119 Light weight Howitzers
(And their respective crews)

33,000 Snipers

Most of the Snipers (20,000) begin to form a perimeter a few miles inside of the coast, and begin to establish camp, starting to build makeshift runways and helicopter pads, and digging trenches, so as to establish a point from which to begin supply lines.

The rest of the said army begins to form formations and begin to advance towards the nearest Sumguyan city (Though, they're going to stop a couple miles away).
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:39
OOC: Okay so lets leave the way it is, I attacked you sped up and ran off, Ok I agree no more arguing. But for the fact I did fire and at a close range before you sped off a few of your planes and helicopters had to have died so I want to know how many

Absolutely not. They were never at close range to begin with.
Greston
03-08-2007, 19:40
"Ah good Cazelias here have the Rester meet them and have them blow up those friggin Romaes. Corpral call up home and have them send 6 Irondecks to secure this ar" His phone rang inturupting his orders "what is it, oh Mr.President, what CA said that if we make the hegemony neatrul the war will end, perfect."

To Claudius Griffincrest

Good, but the one thing is, is that we already have decided to be neutral, so we want Gens Romae to leave right away.
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 19:43
OOC: Check out the reference site I gave. I have a crapload of CH-53's. It isn't a matter of me not being able to afford them. I have a defense budget of over 300 bil.


IC: The 200 fighters just coming in come to the aid of the B-52s, firing a volley of missiles at the said 56 AL F-52s...albeit not before a few of the bombers plummet to the ground. The B-52s turn around and begin to fly back towards the coast.

Meanwihle, at the said coast, the helicopters are just about finished unloading their payload of infantry.

On Sumguyan soil, then, now stand the following:

5000 M551 Sheridan Light Tanks
12,000 AGF Light Infantry Vehicles
12,000 M119 Light weight Howitzers
(And their respective crews)

33,000 Snipers

Most of the Snipers (20,000) begin to form a perimeter a few miles inside of the coast, and begin to establish camp, starting to build makeshift runways and helicopter pads, and digging trenches, so as to establish a point from which to begin supply lines.

The rest of the said army begins to form formations and begin to advance towards the nearest Sumguyan city (Though, they're going to stop a couple miles away).

OOC: In RL simulations, F-22s have had on average something like a 23-1 kill ratio when against F-16s and F-15s
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 19:44
Dear Greston Leadership,

Gens Romae will be tasked on anothernation on one condition. The Hegemoney Alliance declares its official neutrality in the ongoing Corporate-Prussian war. Once we recieve the public declaration, you and your friends will be left alone.

Sincerely,
Jack Phoenixclaw, Chairman, Board of Investors, Griffincrest Oil Inc.

OOC: we were already neutral...
The PeoplesFreedom
03-08-2007, 19:45
OOC: I do believe a group of F-22's took out 35 F-15's with no losses in excersies.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:45
OOC: In RL simulations, F-22s have had on average something like a 23-1 kill ratio when against F-16s and F-15s

Hm...well let's say that half of the F-15s go down, but the rest, as well as most of my bombers, get away. Do note, however, that my F-15s probably do have the element of surprise.

Anyway, commence to posting.

Edit: That said, everyone but Lord Sumguy should cease posting.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 19:50
OOC: Sumguy, do you by chance have MSN?
British Londinium
03-08-2007, 20:00
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/2306/rsplbada2sc0.jpg

Official Communiqué

Open Declaration:

The People's Sovereign Republic wishes to see an end to hostilities in the Sumgese-Roman conflict. I ask that both parties begin negotiation in a neutral location, such as British Londinium, so that further loss of life can be avoided.

If this does not happen, though, the eighty thousand soldiers currently stationed in Sumatripte will have little choice but to enter this pathetic fray, and, once they do, I intend on dispatching several million more soldiers to ensure that a peace agreement is reached.

Sincerely,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Alistair Davidson, MP
Consul of British Londinium
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 20:24
OOC:

BL, talk to the CA. As I said, this is primarily CA politics. If you want to send in troops, then you should notify the CA that you are doing so, and probably create another thread for it.

Lord Sumgay, are you gonna post?
Greston
03-08-2007, 20:28
OOC: gens, you do know that when we send that paper to BC, you have to leave Lord Sumguy
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 20:31
OOC: gens, you do know that when we send that paper to BC, you have to leave Lord Sumguy

OOC: I'll leave Sumguy as soon as Blackhelm tells me too, and no sooner. In the meantime, I am gonna shell him senseless.
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 20:45
OOC: the AL is a guerrilla organization, when they prepare a defence, they scatter into the countryside and set up hidden ambushes. Also, you only have 2000 helicopters in your entire military.

IC: The AL fighters watched as napalm spread over the countryside, killing only about 100 of them. They were far to spread out for carpet bombing to be effective. All across the area stinger sites were set up to destroy any incoming aircraft, nearly 500 launchers being in the possesion of the local AL militia. Meanwhile, 56 AL F-22 stealth fighters flew to intercept the bombers, who would be decimated by their attack, as there was no fighter escort with them.

Armor and mechanized infantry units steadily approached the area, numbering at 175,000 infantrymen and 15,000 vehicles, and set up anti-air defences against the coming air attack.

General Mcalpin looked at the radar screens in front of him. "Their entire airforce eh? well that was foolish of them. Bomb their military bases."

43 B-2 stealth bombers, escorted by another 85 F-22 stealth fighters, took off from the Empire, and began a bombing run against Gen Romae military bases. There would be no defence, as there were no aircraft to defend the nation with and the attacking aircraft were nearly undetectable.


OOC: the AL is a paramilitary organization numbering at about 500,000 members and almost unanimously supported within the Empire.

OOC: in case you didn't see the edits. Ido not have msn, but i do have yahoo and xfire.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 20:51
The aircraft sent to attempt to bomb Gens Romae would most likely meet a swift and utter demise. Once they come within a few miles of the country, even though they are hard to detect, they cross the boundary of what is, in essence, a solid wall of detection. Immediatley, the Coast Gaurd at the border walls spring to life, and a solid wall homing missiles and flak fire come to meet the incoming aircraft, most likely obliterating them before they are even able to cross borders.

The Gens Romae forces approach within a few miles of the nearest city, and immediately the artillery crews jump from the armored cars, and begin to load them up and fire them. Within several minutes, a rain of artillery shells begins to fall upon the nearest city, making an effort to systematically demolish it section by section, deigning to leave absolutely nothing left standing.
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 21:05
OOC: what solid wall of detection? These are the best sealth planes money can buy. Your nation is less than two months old, you have not had the time to set up anything that could stop it. Also, they are bombing, far above the range of any anti-aircraft enplacements.

IC: The AL commander smiled as the Sumguaian army reached the city. The Gens Romae landing forces were outnumbered, outgunned, and didn't know the terrain. nearly 300 cruise missles were launched at the invading frce, and the Sumguaian Army arrived soon afterward. Meanwhile, a group of 600 F-16 fighters flew towards the Roman navy. They launched a total of 1,200 Rufous anti-shipping missles (I can dig up the thread in which i bought them if you insist), which were designed to destroy supercapitol ships, and would tear the GR navy apart.

OOC: the Rufous missles can be accurately launched at a range far beyond that of any anti-aircraft systems. They accelerate to mach 5 before hitting their target, making them almost impossibe to stop. You really are outgunned and outnumbered, as I've had much more time to develop my military regardless of budget (whch by the way was only reduced about a week ago) and my troops know the land. I suggest you pull out before you lose your air force and landing forces.
Lord Sumguy
03-08-2007, 21:18
OOC: apparently.
Aurum Domus
03-08-2007, 21:19
OOC: This whole thing is hilarious, did Gens really think he had a chance?
Greal
03-08-2007, 23:14
OOC: Can I join?
Maldorians
03-08-2007, 23:32
I am deeply puzzled by the act commited by Greston forces. We thought that they were our friends. Much like many rogue nations, it turns out that they cannot keep promises. If they do not stop this nonsense, we will have no choice but to help the Roman forces.

-The Mandalore.
Supreme Ruler of Maldorians.
Gens Romae
03-08-2007, 23:56
OOC: what solid wall of detection? These are the best sealth planes money can buy. Your nation is less than two months old, you have not had the time to set up anything that could stop it. Also, they are bombing, far above the range of any anti-aircraft enplacements.

Dood, see my freewebs page.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 02:58
OOC: Unless the wall is a mile high (which would be physically impossible), my planes can fly far over it, out of detection range. They are high-altitude bombers.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 03:31
OOC: Unless the wall is a mile high (which would be physically impossible), my planes can fly far over it, out of detection range. They are high-altitude bombers.

OOC: According to Wiki, your bombers have a maximum altitude of 15,000 meters, which is to say, 15 kilometers. According to wiki, my radars have a range of about 15 kilometers. My rockets have a maximum range far exceeding that.

That said, I don't -have- a navy except the 10 submarines, which are submerged.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 03:36
OOC: Stealth bombers are designed for the sole purpose of foiling radar, and yours would not pick them up if they were in the outer half of the RADAR's range. I have allowed you to conveniently forsee and miraculously counter every move I have made so far, would you mind allowing them to go undetected, which would probably happen in RL anyway?
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 03:39
OOC: Stealth bombers are designed for the sole purpose of foiling radar, and yours would not pick them up if they were in the outer half of the RADAR's range. I have allowed you to conveniently forsee and miraculously counter every move I have made so far, would you mind allowing them to go undetected, which would probably happen in RL anyway?

OOC: I don't just have one radar. I have literally thousands lining the coast.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 03:46
OOC: I don't just have one radar. I have literally thousands lining the coast.

OOC: I know, they would still probably get past. I'm not having them go along the coast, they are heading straight inland, which would mean only 2 or 3 of your radar placements would get a chance to detect them, unless of course you jsut swarmed the whole coast with them, which would be inneficient and which no sane military would spend the money to do.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 03:47
Let me also add that stealth are vernerable to the naked eye. ;)
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 03:49
Let me also add that stealth are vernerable to the naked eye. ;)

OOC: and they are 15 km above ground level...
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 03:50
IC: The force is taken completely unawares by the incoming cruise missiles, and ultimately wreak havoc upon Rome's armored cars and tanks. In the end, scrap metal and dead bodies end up lying upon scorched earth (Er...let's say about 200 tanks, 200 armored cars and 200 artillery, 1000 snipers).

A field marshall steps out to survey the damage...and remains out for several moments before issuing commands. The force scatters, having each remaining vehicle have a space of several meters between them. They then begin to continue the shelling of the city, commited to the destruction of said city.

Howitzer shells rain down.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 03:51
unless of course you jsut swarmed the whole coast with them, which would be inneficient and which no sane military would spend the money to do.

That's exactly what I did. I don't have a navy.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 03:56
That's exactly what I did. I don't have a navy.

OOC: Well in that case...

IC: A Sumguaian Naval battlegroup, consisting of 8 destroyers, 5 cruisers, 3 battleships, 6 submarines, and 2 AEGIS cruisers, Made their way along the coast. When they were in range, they began bombarding the Roman landing forces with deck guns and launched 800 more cruise missles at the rear of the force.

OOC: btw, how did you land a force without a navy?
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 03:57
IC: A Sumguaian Naval battlegroup, consisting of 8 destroyers, 5 cruisers, 3 battleships, 6 submarines, and 2 AEGIS cruisers, Made their way along the coast. When they were in range, they began bombarding the Roman landing forces with deck guns and launched 800 more cruise missles at the rear of the force.

Dude, post the damage to your city. That said, my guys are several miles in.

OOC: btw, how did you land a force without a navy?

Airforce. Read my friggen freewebs page.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 04:00
OOC: and they are 15 km above ground level...

OOC: You've never heard of recconassice aircraft? They can find your stealth with their naked eyes...>_<
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 04:01
OOC: a mass armor drop with aircraft would be hideously expensive and inneficient.

IC: The city was burning, as Sumguaian troops hurredly evacuated the populace. over 4,000 civilians were killed in the bombardment, and 273 soldiers were killed while evacuating the city and attempting to rescue people buried in rubble.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 04:02
OOC: You've never heard of recconassice aircraft? They can find your stealth with their naked eyes...>_<

OOC: that's why they have a stealth fighter escort...
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 04:06
OOC: that's why they have a stealth fighter escort...

OOC: I don't think you said that you had that.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 04:08
OOC: I don't think you said that you had that.

OOC: look at the post again, I did. They would be able to handle whatever aircraft he threw at them, considering that the entirety of his airforce is flying into my nation..
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 04:15
OOC: a mass armor drop with aircraft would be hideously expensive and inneficient.

OOC: What part of 11,600 helicopters do you not understand?

IC: The city was burning, as Sumguaian troops hurredly evacuated the populace. over 4,000 civilians were killed in the bombardment, and 273 soldiers were killed while evacuating the city and attempting to rescue people buried in rubble.

OOC: Question, am I to assume that this is your whole fighting force?
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 04:18
OOC: What part of 11,600 helicopters do you not understand?



OOC: Question, am I to assume that this is your whole fighting force?

OOC: ..no..There are 175,000 infantrymen and 15,000 vehicles stationed in between the city and the GR forces..Your forces are shelling the city, and there is a small garrison there. Please respond to the naval bombardment, and if you absolutely must intercept the bombers with other aircraft or missles, RP it.
Aurum Domus
04-08-2007, 05:04
OOC: He's a young nation, no way he has 11,600 helicopters.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 05:07
OOC: He's a young nation, no way he has 11,600 helicopters.

OOC: Stop writing this in two threads. You only need to put it in one...
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 05:09
OOC: He's a young nation, no way he has 11,600 helicopters.

OOC: or a huge steel wall around his entire nation with thousands of radar and gun emplacements for that matter... FI he has few fixed wing aircraft, he doesn't really stand a change. F-16s > Attack helicopters..
Kesshite
04-08-2007, 05:10
Bah, bad comment

*edited*
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 05:27
Encyrpted Message of Gens Romae to the Maldorians:

The Holy Roman Empire requests transport of the Imperial Army from Roman shores to Lord Sumguyan shores, as well as air cover to defend against airstrikes. The Roman Airforce is currently in dire straights, and without Her Army, the chances of victory seem bleak.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of rome

IC:

Another round of snipers, armored cars, artillery, and tanks are obliterated (Let's say I've lost 500 tanks, 1000 cars, 1000 artillery, and 5,000 snipers so far). They break, and begin to retreat for cover...

OOC: That said, naval bombardment? Nothing is in range.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 05:32
Encyrpted Message of Gens Romae to the Maldorians:

The Holy Roman Empire requests transport of the Imperial Army from Roman shores to Lord Sumguyan shores, as well as air cover to defend against airstrikes. The Roman Airforce is currently in dire straights, and without Her Army, the chances of victory seem bleak.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of rome



Encrypted Response to Gens Romae

Dear Mr. Sextus:

Your request has been granted. C-17 craft will take off immediately towards Roman lands. They will be escorted by the Yellow Squadron, an elite group of Maldorian Aces.

-The Mandalore.
-Supreme Ruler of Maldorians.

OOC: I'll get the stats up soon, such as the number of C-17's and the like.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 05:33
Encyrpted Message of Gens Romae to the Maldorians:

The Holy Roman Empire requests transport of the Imperial Army from Roman shores to Lord Sumguyan shores, as well as air cover to defend against airstrikes. The Roman Airforce is currently in dire straights, and without Her Army, the chances of victory seem bleak.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of rome

IC:

Another round of snipers, armored cars, artillery, and tanks are obliterated (Let's say I've lost 500 tanks, 1000 cars, 1000 artillery, and 5,000 snipers so far). They break, and begin to retreat for cover...

OOC: That said, naval bombardment? Nothing is in range.

OOC: you said this was one-on-one, let's keep it that way.

IC: The Sumguaian Forces charged forward at the retreating enemy, as 300 F-16s and 70 A-10s streaked past them to bombard the GR invaders.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 05:35
Stationed in Sardinia, waiting for Maldorian transport, are the following:

9,500 Ariete_Battle_Tanks

35,000 Dardo_Infantry_Fighting_Vehicles

30,000 M6_Linebacker_Air_Defense_Infantry_Fighting_Vehicles

5,000 PzH_2000_Self_Propelled_Howitzers

1,000 Agusta_A129_Mangusta_Attack_Helicopters

258,000 Vehicle Crews armed with the Glock_18_Pistol

2,000 Aircrews armed with the Glock_18_Pistol

390,000 Infantry armed with the G36_Assault_Rifle and Glock_18_Pistol
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 05:36
OOC: you said this was one-on-one, let's keep it that way.

IC: The Sumguaian Forces charged forward at the retreating enemy, as 300 F-16s and 70 A-10s streaked past them to bombard the GR invaders.

OOC: I don't see the problem. You got help from Greston.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 05:37
OOC: No, it's a one on one, Sumguy.
...
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 05:38
OOC: I don't see the problem. You got help from Greston.

Greston's attack was ignored, wasn't it? I told him to back off, out of respect for Gens Romae's request that this be just me and him.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 05:39
OOC: you said this was one-on-one, let's keep it that way.

OOC: It is one on one. They're just bringing my army to even things out.

IC: The Sumguaian Forces charged forward at the retreating enemy, as 300 F-16s and 70 A-10s streaked past them to bombard the GR invaders.

IC: The remaining F-15's (about 900 of them) scream towards the said aircraft while the troops scatter below. The aircraft descend from above, firing a volley of sidewinder missiles at the otherwise outnumbered forces.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 05:40
Greston's attack was ignored, wasn't it? I told him to back off, out of respect for Gens Romae's request that this be just me and him.

Then why did he still attack? He sent troops, regardless.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 05:46
OOC: It is one on one. They're just bringing my army to even things out.



IC: The remaining F-15's (about 900 of them) scream towards the said aircraft while the troops scatter below. The aircraft descend from above, firing a volley of sidewinder missiles at the otherwise outnumbered forces.

The aircraft turned and flew back to the Sumguaian forces, 132 fighters and 12 A-10s being downed in the procees, and flew behind the army's position. On the ground, 300 mobile SAM vehicles launched salvos of anti-air missles at the oncoming F-15s, and another 4,000 stinger missle launchers were fired by the infantry units (less than 1 per 20 soldiers.)
_____________________________________________________________________________________

Message to the Gens Romaeni government:

Widthdraw now, and we will not destroy your forces utterly. Continue with your invasion, and your military will be obliterated. You have neither the manpower or the equipment to defeat my army, much less occupy the nation. Call off your foolish war while you can still save yourself from a crippling defeat.

-Lord Sumguy


OOC: Please do not use the Maldorians for transport, as that makes your forces immune to my attacks until they reach my shores, lest I incurr war with the Mandalor. That is an advantage I am not willing to give you. It is your error in trying to invade without a navy, not mine.

PS: my last post for the night
Blackhelm Confederacy
04-08-2007, 08:11
OOC: I want a seperate thread, in which you announce that all members of Hegemony must not get involved in the CA-NPE war. Failure to comply will result in attacks on other nations as well.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 18:04
The aircraft turned and flew back to the Sumguaian forces, 132 fighters and 12 A-10s being downed in the procees, and flew behind the army's position. On the ground, 300 mobile SAM vehicles launched salvos of anti-air missles at the oncoming F-15s, and another 4,000 stinger missle launchers were fired by the infantry units (less than 1 per 20 soldiers.)

The F-15's immediately turn on their back burners, and fly directly up. Flares are sent out by the planes as they spiral up, attracting said anti air missiles away from the planes. Only 400 of the planes get away , the rest of which are sadly shot down. Nonetheless, the planes which got away, meanwhile begin to radio back the coordinates to the remaining forces.

From the depths beneath the waves, just off of the coast, the ballistic submarines once again spring to life as about a hundred more ballistic missiles are launched directly into the middle of the concentration of the troops which had prior to this point fired anti air rounds.

While these missiles are fired, the remaining snipers are airlifted a mile to the rear and to the sides of the standing enemy force, and the Sherman tanks advance from the front. As soon as the ballistic missiles fall, the Sherman tanks begin firing highly explosive rounds into the midst of where the troops had prior to this point been, and the snipers meanwhile begin picking off troops from their stations.

After the Sherman tanks fire a few volleys, the remaining armored cars, drive up into the midst of the opposing troops, unloading an assload of machine gun rounds.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 19:04
Maldorian aircraft roared to life as the craft soon took off. They were to make their way to Gens Romae to pick up a few of their men. The mission would not be hard. Escorted by Yellow Squadron and a large F-22 group, these C-17's would not be touched...

Encrypted Message to Gens Romae

The Air Convoy has taken off. Except them to arrive at your nation shortly...
Greston
04-08-2007, 19:14
OOC: Maldorians why are you ignoring me, check your IMs
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 19:14
OOC: Maldorians why are you ignoring me, check your IMs

OOC: I'll be right online, hold on.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 19:44
Encrypted Message to the Maldorians:

Rome's army is waiting in Sardinia. We await your planes.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 20:48
Official Statement of Gens Romae to Lord Sumguy:

In the name of of the Corporate Alliance, your forces are commanded to stand down, and to relinquish national sovereignty. Failure to comply will result in the swift and utter destruction of your entire peoples. The Roman Empire has no problem with turning your metropolitans into parking lots.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 20:55
To: Sextus Augustus
From: Lord Sumguy

You think highly of your little empire, dont you? Withdraw before your hubris destroys you. I can overwhelm your army purely with numbers, which I need not, as my troops are as well trained and equipped as yours. You have no navy, an air force equal in comparison to mine, and an army less than half as powerful as the Holy Empire's. Not only that, you are invading, which means that i have the advantages of terrain, support of the population, my soldiers will fight all the harder, and i don't have to worry about attacks upon my supply lines, whearas your forces will be undersupplied and outnumbered. Furthermore, you don't have the manpower to hold my cities, much less conquer them. My nation will absorb your army and destroy it. Withdraw before I decide to counterattack and end your insane agression permanently.

-Lord Sumguy

OOC: You really don't have much of a chance. Going against a numerically and technologically superior force on their native ground is nothing less than suicide.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 21:00
OOC: You have an ic post to respond too, LSG :)
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 21:10
OOC: You have an ic post to respond too, LSG :)

OOC: Im trying to decide whether to ignore it due to the sniper godmod. Having both the takeoff and landing of an airlift past my troops without allowing me to intercept or respond to it is a godmod. I am also wondering why about 6,000 missles only downed a few dozen planes.
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 21:26
OOC: Im trying to decide whether to ignore it due to the sniper godmod. Having both the takeoff and landing of an airlift past my troops without allowing me to intercept or respond to it is a godmod.

Feel free to attempt a defense. Note, however, that my planes are out of range of your troops, and this is happening while your guys are getting pwned by missiles...so I doubt that they'd be worried about helicopters which -aren't- moving directly to your troops. In fact, they aren't even traveling a great distance. I'm taking off and landing a range of literally only a few miles; I doubt you'd have time.

am also wondering why about 6,000 missles only downed a few dozen planes.

Because your missiles are ground based and I used countermeasures.
The PeoplesFreedom
04-08-2007, 21:28
Because your missiles are ground based and I used countermeasures.

What does ground-based got to do with anything? Patriot is ground-based and will own almost anything in the sky. Your countermeasures will work somewhat, but the bulk of the missile are going to get through.
The PeoplesFreedom
04-08-2007, 21:29
OOC: Maldorians told me to do it.

And he is one of the biggest wankers on here. He's wrong. Up your losses accordingly.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 21:31
And he is one of the biggest wankers on here. He's wrong. Up your losses accordingly.

TPF, shut the hell up. I said to him that countermeasures would work. I didn't put a number on it.
The PeoplesFreedom
04-08-2007, 21:32
Chaff and flares will work on some of the missiles, not all and definitely not the bulk.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 21:33
Feel free to attempt a defense. Note, however, that my planes are out of range of your troops, and this is happening while your guys are getting pwned by missiles...so I doubt that they'd be worried about helicopters which -aren't- moving directly to your troops. In fact, they aren't even traveling a great distance. I'm taking off and landing a range of literally only a few miles I doubt you'd have time.



Because your missiles are ground based and I used countermeasures.

OOC: you have 900 planes. They would stop at most a thousand missles. an arial countermeasure will not save a plane when there are three missles coming at it at once, much less six.

Also, I have fighter planes nearby, they would be able to intercept and respond to any move behind my forces. As it is, if i do reply, my men will certainly NOT be pwned by missles, as my coast is equipped with a state-of -the-art missle defence system given to me by Leocardia. Also, it is a godmod to assume the damage that your missles cause. You need to let me RP the missle damage before you go ahead with the rest. Please edit the post, then I will reply IC'ly
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 21:37
OOC: Note that Maldorians didn't put a number on it. He merely said it would work. However, I do want to note that my planes are going very, very fast, and so even if the majority aren't affected by counter measures, I doubt that all of the troops would be able to accurately fire at them in the first place.

So, I am going to assume that half of the missiles are accurately fired. Another half are taken care of by counter measures. And I'm going to assume that another half are actually hit.

So let's say I have about 400 fighters left. No?
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 21:39
OOC: ok, now fix the rest.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 21:39
THANK YOU! TPF, you didn't even know what was going on....>_>;
Gens Romae
04-08-2007, 21:40
OOC: ok, now fix the rest.

Done. That said, I want to reiterate that the copters are going a -very- short distance, and they aren't even going towards your forces. You really probably wouldn't have time. Also, even then, my tanks are harrassing your guys, so you really can't use the missile launchers this time.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 21:47
OOC: a short distance behind and on the flanks of my forces, which would bring them in range and give my aircraft an oppurtunity to intercept.
Greal
04-08-2007, 22:32
Message to Lord Sumguy



The Greal Government wishes to join the fight, do you need help?
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 22:40
Message to Lord Sumguy



The Greal Government wishes to join the fight, do you need help?

SIC:

No, do not intervene for now.
Greal
04-08-2007, 22:41
SIC:

No, do not intervene for now.


SIC: Isn't the whole CA attacking?
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 22:50
SIC: Isn't the whole CA attacking?

SIC: No, just Gens Romae, which isn't that much of a threat.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 22:58
SIC: No, just Gens Romae, which isn't that much of a threat.

OOC: And you got Maldorian aircraft soon to be in the vicinity...
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 23:07
OOC: And you got Maldorian aircraft soon to be in the vicinity...

OOC: they will be ignored, as I only agreed to this thread with the understadning that it was a one-on-one.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 23:16
OOC: they will be ignored, as I only agreed to this thread with the understadning that it was a one-on-one.

OOC: Actually, it says ATTN Lord Sumguy. I don't see Closed in it... ;)
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 23:19
OOC: Actually, it says ATTN Lord Sumguy. I don't see Closed in it... ;)

OOC: look at GR's second post.
Vontanas
04-08-2007, 23:23
OOC: Maldorians, don't be thick. Gens Romae said it himself, and it applies for both sides.
Maldorians
04-08-2007, 23:29
OOC:

Greston, aren't you in the CA?

That's his 2nd post.
Lord Sumguy
04-08-2007, 23:33
That's his 2nd post.

OOc: bah, third then.
Akimonad
05-08-2007, 13:45
Open Declaration:

Knock it off, both of you.

~Dr. Jules Hodz
Gens Romae
05-08-2007, 21:21
Official Message of Gens Romae to the Sumguyan Government:

Rome hereby offers a cease fire in exchange for your promise of non interference in CA matters and allowance of the safe departure of the military already there.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome
Akimonad
05-08-2007, 21:25
Official Message of Gens Romae to the Sumguyan Government:

Rome hereby offers a cease fire in exchange for your promise of non interference in CA matters and allowance of the safe departure of the military already there.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome


Well, one of your demands is met. I think.
Lord Sumguy
05-08-2007, 21:27
Official Message of Gens Romae to the Sumguyan Government:

Rome hereby offers a cease fire in exchange for your promise of non interference in CA matters and allowance of the safe departure of the military already there.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome

OOC: we were neutral from the start....

IC:
To: Sextus Augustus
From: Lord Sumguy

The offer of a cease fire is accepted, considering that my nation and the Hegemony were neutral from the beginning. Perhaps next time you should get your facts together before you try to invade a nation more powerful than yours and make demands that have already been met.
Nonetheless, you have made a wise move sir. You have, in accepting this defeat, saved yourself from complete humiliation and the destruction of your miltary.
-Lord Sumguy
Maldorians
05-08-2007, 21:36
OOC: we were neutral from the start....

IC:
To: Sextus Augustus
From: Lord Sumguy

The offer of a cease fire is accepted, considering that my nation and the Hegemony were neutral from the beginning. Perhaps next time you should get your facts together before you try to invade a nation more powerful than yours and make demands that have already been met.
Nonetheless, you have made a wise move sir. You have, in accepting this defeat, saved yourself from complete humiliation and the destruction of your miltary.
-Lord Sumguy

OOC: Not from the start. You were helping the NPE
Lord Sumguy
05-08-2007, 22:04
OOC: Not from the start. You were helping the NPE

OOC: Correction: a paramilitary organization that is not endorsed by my government offered to help Calizorinstan. When Cali pulled out, so did they.
Maldorians
05-08-2007, 22:13
OOC: Correction: a paramilitary organization that is not endorsed by my government offered to help Calizorinstan. When Cali pulled out, so did they.

OOC: What do you mean by paramilitary? There are many definitions for paramilitary.

-military forces outside the army

-private army/militia

-militarized government agenciy

-something else
Lord Sumguy
05-08-2007, 22:16
OOC: private army/militia.
Blackhelm Confederacy
05-08-2007, 23:29
To: Roman Military Leadership
From: Griffincrest High Command

Congratulations, your have fulfilled your task, and the Hegemony alliance have officially declared neutrality, thereby taking out what could have become a potential problem. Your generals shall be awarded the Griffincrest Corporations highest honor, which is not a medal, but is a palace in Egyptiannsstan. Both are along the coast and are beautiful homes. Please stand by for another assignment, and again, congratulations men.
Lord Sumguy
06-08-2007, 00:14
OOC: not much of an accomplishment seeing as the Hegemony council had already decided to remain neutral when GR invaded, if anything the operation made us more inclined to take sides.
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-08-2007, 00:18
OOC: not much of an accomplishment seeing as the Hegemony council had already decided to remain neutral when GR invaded, if anything the operation made us more inclined to take sides.

OOC: If you violate the neutrality, you are going to have much bigger problems on your hands.
Lord Sumguy
06-08-2007, 00:23
OOC: If you violate the neutrality, you are going to have much bigger problems on your hands.

OOC: I'm sure I would. :)
Aurum Domus
06-08-2007, 00:42
OOC: LS check your TGs