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ADAN Version 3 (Re)-enlistment thread

Hurtful Thoughts
03-08-2007, 17:53
After Dephire stepped out (and for some reason had me as 2nd in command, making me ADAN's de facto leader) I decided to 'prune' the ADAN roster, promoted those that were still active to Admin status. Then I noted we needed to recruit some more people, and, what with Dephire gone, we couldn't use/edit his front page to update his roster.

In short, I drop kicked all the freeloaders out of ADAN (but not banned, and they are more than welcome to enlist again).
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Changes from ADAN V2.0:
Rules are basicly the same as Version 2, except that every 3 months there shall be a pruning of the roster, and every 6 months, the high council will be up for grabs to the Admins (decided by a general poll)

This was all approved by the active members of ADAN, since they are all admins and have the ower to eject me if I ever step too far out of line.
(Likewise, it's a double edged sword)

The administration, currently due to lack of members, has been 'steamlined' to 3 to 5 people.

Members must be active at the offsite:
http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?act=idx
I can't stress that enough.

Oh well, as a refresher, Ill repost the charter:
The Aggressive/Defensive Alliance of Nations: Version 3.0

Pre-Submittance rules:

1. In order to be accepted into this alliance, you must first apply for the alliance. Submittances to the alliance can be posted below, or on our off-forum site. Each nation that has submitted will then be under a pending status where they will undergo a quick background check to see if you are really who you claim to be.


2. Applying nations must be fully committed to follow the standards and regulations of the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations. If you cannot, then do not waste your time applying.

3. You must agree to a background check to ensure that you are trustworthy.

4. The ADAN is an alliance of Aggressive and Defensive Nations. Thus a high military ratio may allow you more leniance for acceptance than a nation with a rather low ratio. Do not, however, let this turn you away if you are a new nation, or a nation that doesn't believe in large Military Forces. This also does not guarantee that if you have an extremely large military force, that you will be accepted instantly. The ADAN is supposed to be more open for All nations to be able to join without complications. (More details further down.)

5. We are looking for nations at or above one hundred million people (total population wise). Once again, if you are below one hundred million, do not let that turn you away. We shall tell you why further down.

6. Nations can be instantly accepted if they are either endorsed or the High Council votes in favor of the Nation at question.

7. The ADAN is not a nuclear weapons loving alliance. All usage must be granted permission by the Military and Governing Councils and then further approved by myself. Any usage without consent will result in severe actions upon thee.

8. In addition to the Pending Status, outside intelligence may also be used in your judgement. So please, don't submit if everyone in the bloody world hates you.

Note: Applications are subject to be revoked if conflicts arise.

Post-Submittance Rules:

1. No Military action is to be taken amongst a fellow Alliance Member unless permission is granted by the High Council to be so. Permission may be granted upon request, but not every request is accepted. If Military action is striken upon a fellow nation without the High Council's approval, your nation would then be Expelled from the Alliance. Higher Level violations, such as more than two fellow Members, may result in Higher Leveled Consequences. Of course, this Alliance will not Forcefully remove all Members if the Conflict achieves a status of over fifty percent participation of Members. In that case, the conflict will be deemed an Alliance Disagreement, and would be considered unecessary to see to action be brought upon the Aggressive Members.

2. With the previous Rule being stated, any conflicts involving a fellow member against another fellow member may be monitored by the High Council.

3. You may NOT flame nor talk badly about a fellow member. Violations of this Rule will result in INSTANT permanent BAN from the Alliance. Higher Levels of Violations will result in notification of Moderators.

4. You may be a member of another alliance as well as this one.

5. I say again, the ADAN is not a nuclear weapons loving alliance. All usage must be granted permission by all representitives and the Governing Council. Any usage without consent will result in severe actions upon thee. To apply for permission: post on this thread, telegram any Council member, telegram myself, or post your application on the private forums.

6. Application to our many different classes, such as the councils or divisions, are to be made on the private boards.

AAN-DAN

The Aggressive/Defensive Alliance of Nations is almost at the point in which stage two can come into play. Splitting of Aggressive and Defensive members.

Idealy, larger nations with huge military powers are to be on the Aggressive Alliance of Nations. These nations will pull through the Alliance-wide operations, such as total war against an opposing alliance or to counter a nation that has attacked a fellow member. However, there are limitations to these nations.

-=-AAN members should be larger than 1.5 billion people (Total Population).
-=-AAN members must seek permission from myself and the council.
-=-Pointless warmongering will not be tolerated.
-=-The inclusion of the ADAN for your personal wars will not be tolerated.
-=-Do not start wars just to have the DAN fight for you.
-=-If you embarrass the ADAN, you will be subject to discipline.
-=-If you make a mockery of the ADAN, stricking a non-member nation without proper authority, you will not have the assistance of the ADAN.
-=-Further mockery will result in extreme discipline. (Details are confidential.)
-=-AAN members are also to look after eachother, except upon the circumstances previously mentioned.

Defensive Alliance of Nations are members whom 'protect the motherland' so to say. They, instead of going out to war, prepare the homeland defenses incase the war comes to our home's borders. These nations are, for the most part, smaller nations that are not part of the AAN. In times of war, the DAN stock up on counter-measures, weapons, and other arsenal to help fuel the war effort of the AAN. However, the DAN are not to be 'slaves' or 'oppressed' by the AAN. In fact, the AAN and DAN are to co-exist peacefully. The Defensive Alliance of Nations also has their limitations:

-=-Must assist in the defense of the Alliance.
-=-Defensive nations are limited to ADAN peacekeeping missions, to hone their RP skills and get ready for actual offensive missions.
-=-They can be used in civil wars, terrorist attacked zones, or areas of civil unrest.
-=-These member HAVE the right to disapprove of any AAN action.

Nations with total populations of 2 billion or higher are more so going to be asked to be a part of the AAN. Nations with total populations of 100 million to under 2 billion are more likely to be asked to be a part of the DAN. Any members under 100 million are more than likely going to be placed on 'Observation' or 'Observer' for them to learn how things are done, and will also be used as a last resort on the front lines.

Also, as a punitive action for larger nations, we also reserve the right to demote a AAN nation to DAN status.

High Council (Rules/Regulations/Etc.):

The High Council is a system of governing for the Alliance as a whole. It shall be consistant of five member nations, one being Dephire of course. They will be in control of anything regarding Politics and Security, Law Enforcement and Society. Diplomacy and anything else. The High Council is the highest governing body of the entire alliance. The members of the High Council shall be decided by the fellow members of the Alliance.

Current Members of the High Council:
Hurtful Thoughts
Asgarnieu

A/D Representitives:
ADAN is divided into two sub-groups: Aggressive and Defensive nations.
Their representitives are there to represent the whole of each group, and act as a military council, with the ANR proposing an action, and DNR either confirming or denying it, there may be up to two representitives for each group.

Current Roster: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12934713&postcount=4)
Antigr
03-08-2007, 20:42
Okay, for the record, I'm in. (Everyone has to sign up again to be a member)

By the way, I've used nuclear weapons several times without the consent of the ADAN in non-ADAN confflicts, so do I get punished for that?
(Check the roster for the bit about nukes)
British Londinium
03-08-2007, 21:09
If it's at all possible, I'd like to join.
Hurtful Thoughts
03-08-2007, 21:37
DarkRed=Founder/Head
Green=High Council
Red=AN
Blue= DN
Astricks(*) = Representitive
Black=Member (Observer/not in a group)

Resserve Admins (inactive)

Dephire
Carbandia


Current Roster:

Hurtful Thoughts
Asgarnieu
Uldarious*
Antigr*
Terror Incognitia
Maldorians (Probationary affiliate)


Validating: (those not accepted within a week are automaticly rejected)


Rejected:
Toopoxia (Aug 10) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12935211&postcount=8)
No taxes (Aug 18) - [Tabled -kinda didn't notice you there, not that we wouldn't let you in.]
Lord Smguy (Aug 20) [deemed a risk what with the hegamony]

Resigned/ejected (Since Aug 10th)
[Nation name] (Reason/time)
Phalynx (Ejected: Lack of activity/Oct 14)
British Londinium (Ejected: Unnuthorized use of Nuclear weapons/Aug 13)
Carbandia (Resigned: British Londinium's presence/Aug 13 *Canceled*)
Toopoxia
03-08-2007, 21:43
(OOC: Would it be possible for a CA nation to join, or would this be far too dramatic a conflict of interest?)
Terror Incognitia
03-08-2007, 23:15
Posted on the off-site as...a status confirmation.

Separate point, with all due respect to British Londinium, last alliance I was in that he requested to join, he was accepted and then turfed out for:
1) encouraging an apartheid regime and if anything being more extreme in supporting it than the regime itself
2) trying to drag an FT alliance in to help him in an MT war.

This was some time ago, when BL was a fairly new nation, and I know we all make mistakes, so I'm not going to protest if he's accepted into ADAN.
I'm just flagging it up as a personal concern.
Hurtful Thoughts
03-08-2007, 23:30
Toop, no real conflict of interest that I can think of.
(a large portion of ADAN 2.0 was either CA, Gholgoth, GUSN, or GASN, and unlike GASN, we didn't split at the seams)

All up for pending.
Resaults within a week.

I believe Asgarnieu is running background checks.
BL's history has been noted.
(Turning the entire HC into admins kinda streamlines it anyhow, though I'd wait for the background check first)
Toopoxia
04-08-2007, 00:16
(OOC: Oh good.)

Diplomatic Message from the Toopoxican Capitolist Republic to the ADAN

We wish to formally express our interest in joining the alliance, we feel that we can bring a lot to the Alliance whilst not putting much of strain on the other members of the Alliance.

Signed,
Consul Gallus Raexe.
Dephire
04-08-2007, 03:01
Actually, I don't know if it would be a good idea to let BL in.
Hurtful Thoughts
04-08-2007, 03:38
Actually, I don't know if it would be a good idea to let BL in.

K... When people come back from the dead to tell you somthing, I'm pretty sure I should listen...
Kampfers
04-08-2007, 03:46
OOC: its up to yall to decide about BL, but just letting yall know we let him in UFAN. So he either forms up, or he will lose his last few friends. I dont know if him being in UFAN changes his application standpoint, but just letting yall know in case it does.
Dephire
05-08-2007, 06:59
Just so you know, I'm not "dead" persay, I'm just taking a break from NS until I get some things cleared up.
Hurtful Thoughts
06-08-2007, 02:23
Bump.

Notes Zombie Dephire's motion that he isn't dead yet.
Also notes Kampfer's statement.

If it was up to me, I'd most likely approve both BL and Toop (provided Toop get onto the offsite more often)

But I'd like to leave that in the hands of the rest of the administration, I believe I've done enough damage.
Asgarnieu
06-08-2007, 05:22
Wo0t!

OK, as a member of the High Council, I must offer the following suggestions:

1) We begin our advertising campaign in feeder region RMB's,
2) We begin agressively advertising to new nations who are active on Jolt, and
3) We actually use our DAN/AAN forces this time 'round.

I have spoken.
Maldorians
06-08-2007, 05:40
EDIT: We would like to join.

-The Mandalore.


OOC: XD
Dephire
06-08-2007, 13:12
Well, I'm now back from my short-lived vacation.

I have to say this,

BL is actually not in best terms with a lot of people, so why would we take him under our wing?

Toop and Maldorians I don't see a problem.
Hurtful Thoughts
06-08-2007, 17:17
British Londinium - Accepted
Toops - World's biggest question mark (he didn't even know he applied)
Maladorians - Validating
Wanderjar
06-08-2007, 17:20
OOC: PROHT, check tgs please. Yes, it is the worlds cheesiest telegram, but just read it! :p
Hurtful Thoughts
06-08-2007, 17:54
I got another four just like that one, though some were from "your enemy that I shall not name"
There, I just made it sound cheesier than it actually was.
Dephire
06-08-2007, 19:30
You guys accepted BL even after I said it would be unwise?
Asgarnieu
07-08-2007, 03:50
I personally don't see a problem with it.

If you do, we can hold a hearing and a vote amongst the High Council.

Or, you can do it the old-fashioned way, beat us into submission; it never fails.
British Londinium
07-08-2007, 03:57
I could join the DAN for now, as long as its possible to join the AAN once I'm larger/I've proved myself/in the future.
Hurtful Thoughts
07-08-2007, 04:23
Well, then you'd have to TG Uld (the DAN representitive), currently, you're an observer.

Or one of us could go over Uld's head and just assign you to him...
Dephire
07-08-2007, 04:26
Put him into the DAN. I want to watch him myself. (You better feel very very nervous.)
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 04:27
If/When I get accepted, can I join the Attacking part? :D
The PeoplesFreedom
07-08-2007, 04:29
If Mand joins he will still be under attack just for ADAN's info... I hope you guys are ok with that.
Dephire
07-08-2007, 04:49
We understand that. However you shall not dictate what my alliance can and cannot do.
The PeoplesFreedom
07-08-2007, 04:49
An Alliance which I am apart of. Or was before this new Reformation.
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 04:57
@Dephire: A better idea. After TPF's repelled invasion, ;) and the CA-NPE war then I'll ask to be in the AAN part. Would that work?
Dephire
07-08-2007, 13:16
@Dephire: A better idea. After TPF's repelled invasion, ;) and the CA-NPE war then I'll ask to be in the AAN part. Would that work?

Anything will work.:rolleyes:
Antigr
07-08-2007, 16:36
*Appears on top of a hill and everyone gasps*


YES, it is ME!

Anyway, time for my say.

Maldorians - He will be very useful. He's earned a bit of a reputation in a couple of places.

Toop - ?

BL - I wouldn't advise it. This is a mainly 'good guy' alliance. Last time I checked.
Maldorians
07-08-2007, 16:49
Thanks man!

Also, I can postpone joining the ADAN because of the CA-NPE if that's a problem. Whatever works best.
Phalynx
07-08-2007, 17:00
I would love to join the ADAN. Sounds right up my nation's interests...I realize i am a farily new country, and if we do not qualify now, can you send some advice so that my Prestigious nation can qualify down the road :)
Hurtful Thoughts
07-08-2007, 17:35
An Alliance which I am apart of. Or was before this new Reformation.

The reformation thing was my idea, a way to make sure members kept themselves and others informed so that ADAN would continue to function smoothly.

You didn't post anything fir 2 months, what was I supposed to think?

Anyways, you are welcome to re-apply into AAN.
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Mal: Why the aggressive part?
(Notes that, being thrown to DAN, BL can overrule AAN propsals)
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Phalynx: checking background/validating
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Antigr: If one side employs child soldiers, and the other employs genocide upon civillians, which is the 'Good' side?
All that such extreme measures show is how desprate they are.
But the big question isn't what they do, it is why they do it.
That is what divides good from evil.

Note: get on the offsite!
Phalynx
08-08-2007, 21:16
so, what is the good word gentlemen???
Axis Nova
08-08-2007, 21:17
Well, hopefully with Dephire out, you guys can get a little better. :)
Dephire
08-08-2007, 21:36
I told you to stop the fucking trolling.
Uiri
08-08-2007, 22:22
Erm...Could the South Parliamentary Republic of Uiri join? Keep in mind BL is an ally/semi-ally of mine.

EDIT: OK sorry. I thought you were. I guess I have no allies yet.
British Londinium
08-08-2007, 22:24
Erm...Could the South Parliamentary Republic of Uiri join? Keep in mind BL is an ally/semi-ally of mine.

No, you aren't. I'd tell you if you were. You aren't anything remotely resembling an ally of the PSR.
Axis Nova
08-08-2007, 22:37
I told you to stop the fucking trolling.

Who's trolling? You were never a very proactive leader, that's a fact. The ADAN mostly just sat around. O_o
Hurtful Thoughts
09-08-2007, 00:01
Well, hopefully with Dephire out, you guys can get a little better. :)

Dephire isn't out, he just left me the keys to the ADAN HQ on Jolt.

Expect a 4th edition of ADAN in April.
Who's trolling? You were never a very proactive leader, that's a fact. The ADAN mostly just sat around. O_o
And AN, neither was Blackhelm Confederacy, but I don't see you spamming his Alliance thread...
Axis Nova
09-08-2007, 04:47
I havn't interacted with anyone in the CA (not since before they became the CA, anyways). The same isn't true for the ADAN, thus I tend to keep tabs on what they do.
Dephire
09-08-2007, 05:39
Everyone was more active when I decided to blow myself up with a revolution that failed in the case of Scythis. After that, I went inactive. So quit your negative marks towards me or I will have you thrown out. Thanks, good day mate.
Axis Nova
09-08-2007, 05:47
Unless I'm violating rules, which I am not, you can't throw me out. This is an OOC thread, after all.

If you find my posting that unbearable, make use of the ignore list.
The Most Glorious Hack
09-08-2007, 12:33
Unless I'm violating rules, which I am not, you can't throw me out. This is an OOC thread, after all.If you're just here to heap grief on another player, it's best if you just move along.
Antigr
09-08-2007, 17:06
If you're just here to heap grief on another player, it's best if you just move along.

Thank you, Mr. Respected Moderator Man.

Axis, I'd strongly advise you to p*ss off. I've seen dozens of threads ruined thanks to people like you, and I'm not nice to people like that anymore.
If that was in the slightest part constructive or friendly, it might go down okay, but it isn't, so would you kindly leave?
Hurtful Thoughts
10-08-2007, 07:38
Phalynx - Approved - Defensive

Toopoxia - Rejected

Still waiting for Mal to register... (http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00)
(Makes approving him that much harder...)

Thx TMGH.
Phalynx
10-08-2007, 13:25
Phalynx - Approved - Defensive

Toopoxia - Rejected

Still waiting for Mal to register... (http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00)
(Makes approving him that much harder...)

Thx TMGH.

Thanks!!!
Maldorians
10-08-2007, 15:56
Phalynx - Approved - Defensive

Toopoxia - Rejected

Still waiting for Mal to register... (http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00)
(Makes approving him that much harder...)

Thx TMGH.


I just registered. I guess I need a mod to 'activate' the account or something like that.

EDIT: I have a question/comment/concern.

On many of the categories it shows that there is a thread in the 'last post info', yet when I click the category there are no such threads/posts. If you admins don't know how to change the cut-off date to keep the posts lasting forever, just give me a buzz, I am kinda good with invision stuff...
Hurtful Thoughts
10-08-2007, 19:20
Nah, it's still there, just that it doesn't show threads that haven't been used for over 30 days...
Maldorians
10-08-2007, 19:29
Nah, it's still there, just that it doesn't show threads that haven't been used for over 30 days...

Right, the cutoff thing. If you need help on how to change it from 30 days to forever, just ask.
Dephire
12-08-2007, 16:49
Why was Toop rejected?
No Taxes
12-08-2007, 18:20
I was a member of the first version of ADAN (under a different nation) and then briefly joined the second version so hopefully now I can rejoin again and become a member of the AAN.
Hurtful Thoughts
12-08-2007, 18:25
One week validation cutoff.
He didn't bother to register
He forgot he even asked to join
Any more reasons?

No Taxes now validating

Malidorians *groan* accepted
Hurtful Thoughts
13-08-2007, 17:05
Alright, now for the bad news:

British Londinium has been Ejected due to the unauthorized use of Nuclear weapons

On a more ironic note, Carbandia has Resigned because of British Londinium's membership and potential conflicts that he saw could arise from his dual membership in NATO and ADAN.

*Edit*
Error- Value for 1 is insuficient to equal 2.

Carbandia is still a member.
Maldorians
13-08-2007, 17:12
lawl, sweet, I'm in it! w00t! Nice Carbandia is in it/

What the heck does this mean? 'Maldorians (Probationary affiliate) '
Hurtful Thoughts
13-08-2007, 17:21
Means I don't intend to make the same mistake I made with BL twice.
Phalynx
13-08-2007, 23:27
Means I don't intend to make the same mistake I made with BL twice.

Damn yo, BL sounds like a douche...
Carbandia
13-08-2007, 23:35
Damn yo, BL sounds like a douche...
He thinks quite highly of himself, and thinks he's a big fish..I do hope Kraven teaches him a lesson in that there is always a bigger fish..
Hurtful Thoughts
24-08-2007, 23:39
So... is Antigr done with the NPE/CA war yet?

And no, this alliance is far from dead, its offsite is quite active
(eventhough the posting itself is a bit low)

Still taking new members (this thread is just a front)

Also, Phalynx, how's that task I gave you coming along?
Hurtful Thoughts
28-08-2007, 03:35
BUMP a Bump bump bump
Hurtful Thoughts
11-10-2007, 00:36
bumping for fresh meat.
Antigr
15-10-2007, 16:23
Any fresh members? We will take everyone willing to do what the charter says. NO sign up-and-forget members, you have to be fairly active on the ADAN offsite. That is the only unwritten rule. New members!
Antigr
15-10-2007, 19:56
Bumpy-a bump
Antigr
16-10-2007, 16:04
New-a members! We-a need-a new-a members!
Hurtful Thoughts
16-10-2007, 17:30
Maybe if we hosted some current events newsletter thingy like we did earlier then we wouldn't need the bump-attack bash...

Past month in brief:
More inactive members ejected (many vacancies in leadership positions)
ADAN setsup "Help wanted" ads

CA/ADAN/SL/other joint training camp sets up in Thhe Khornate tribes.

The Robotic Operating Buddy takes over your computer.
Antigr
16-10-2007, 19:58
NEWS FLASH!

Current affair news posted
Hurtful Thoughts
16-10-2007, 22:36
NEWS FLASH!

Current affair news posted

Link please!
Antigr
17-10-2007, 16:58
Maybe if we hosted some current events newsletter thingy like we did earlier then we wouldn't need the bump-attack bash...

Past month in brief:
More inactive members ejected (many vacancies in leadership positions)
ADAN setsup "Help wanted" ads

CA/ADAN/SL/other joint training camp sets up in Thhe Khornate tribes.

The Robotic Operating Buddy takes over your computer.

That is it.
Antigr
18-10-2007, 17:49
*Rings bell* New members! Sign up or I destroy the universe!
Hurtful Thoughts
18-10-2007, 18:30
I wonder if Mal runs IRL as well as he does from my threads...

*Sign him up for Cross-country marathon...

Mal, waiting for you to post:
IC (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539994)
OOC (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=539130)

Oh, and Phalynx left, that leaves a slot open for Antigr or other to get involved.
Ant, wanna get 'in'? Rather than watch from outside the looking glass?
Antigr
19-10-2007, 16:39
We'll see. But what exactly would I do?
Hurtful Thoughts
19-10-2007, 23:00
Have some of your better troops show up and try and outsmart your comrads in training.

Pull/invent a few 'dirty tricks' while watching others do their own tricks and dodges, then ask about how/when to use them and when not to.

Allows you to get a feel for what the other fellas are gonna do when it matters.

It would be like those memorable social struggles in High school* but with guns, planes, and grenades...

*Depending on where you are/were in school

-Like figuring out the best ways to get out of a helicopter on NS, how to make stealth planes trip over themselves, or when a bayonet charge is the best option in NS.

Next up, how to deal with those times when a key player doesn't post for an extended period of time
Antigr
22-10-2007, 16:23
Bump.
Antigr
22-10-2007, 18:39
Hey! New members!
Antigr
22-10-2007, 18:39
Actually, I'll start a new sign-up thread.