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Streamline Aeroplanes will, over time, be introducing new aircrafts on the military side of things. Please note, this is late MT/PMT.

Streamline Military Side Lineup:

Streamline MR-100 'Superman' *
Role: Multi-Role Fighter
Wing Span: 35.8 ft
Length: 49.6 ft
Height: 15.3 ft
Max Takeoff Weight: 72,122
Powerplant: Twin Willis-Bradley DCJ-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans producing 42,500 lb thrust each; Twin rotating Lyulka AL-37FU vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans (31,500 lb thrust) underneith
Maximum speed: Mach 2.85
Cruising speed: Mach 1.45
Range: 2,000 miles
Service Ceiling: 70,200 ft
g limits: +7.5, -4.8. The Pilot Safety System (which can be deactivated) prevent the plane from pulling unsafe g-forces and harming the pilot. Airframe can stand up to 8gs
Weaponary: Twin RX-150 30mm cannon - one on each wing (rate of 2,000/minute each), upto 25,000 lbs including R-73/R-77 AAMs, ASMs, QAAMs, bombs, rockets, drop tanks, and/or ECM pods carried on sixteen external points. Twin RX-150 and RX-1500 may be replaced with weapons of your choice for additional cost.
Specialty Features: Quad-rudders/tails, 3D thrust vectoring, has a radar signature of a Su-27, supermaneuverability far beyond that of a F-22, has built in reconnaissance equipment, missiles can fire in any direction, two rotating Willis-Bradley DCJ-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans allows aircraft to launch and land vertically. For ejection, instead of the chair launching out, you're launched in a 'pod'. If needed, you can also eject out of this pod as well.
Technology: The Heads Up Display is used with what we call "VisorDisplay", in which a display will be shown inside the pilots helmet visor, thus allowing him to see highlighted hostiles, even when behind him. The "VisorDisplay", unlike the HUD, does not display altitude, pitch, or speed so that it will not confuse the pilot.
Price: $32 million USD (orders of 750 or more recieve 20% discount)
Picture:
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/RF-11.jpg

Streamline HMR-100 'Altitude' *
Role: High Altitude Multi-Role Fighter
Wing Span: 44.5 ft
Length: 61.5 ft
Height: 21.0 ft
Max Takeoff Weight: 80,200
Powerplant: Twin Willis-Bradley LAT-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans producing 45,000 lb thrust each; Twin Cyclone Blaster pods that store and expel compressed air for 3.2g boosts of accelleration for quick manuevering or takeoff (Takes 13.5 seconds to repressurize)
Maximum speed: Mach 2.9
Cruising speed: Mach 1.7
Range: 2,300 miles
Service Ceiling: 74,000 ft
g limits: +6.5, -4.8. The Pilot Safety System (which can be deactivated) prevent the plane from pulling unsafe g-forces and harming the pilot. Airframe can stand up to 7.5gs
Weaponary: Twin RX-150 30mm cannon - one on each wing (rate of 2,000/minute each), upto 25,000 lbs including R-73/R-77 AAMs, ASMs, QAAMs, bombs, rockets, drop tanks, and/or ECM pods carried on sixteen external points. Twin RX-150 and RX-1500 may be replaced with weapons of your choice for additional cost.
Specialty Features: Quad-rudders/tails, 3D thrust vectoring, has a radar signature of a Su-27, supermaneuverability far beyond that of a F-22, has built in reconnaissance equipment, missiles can fire in any direction, two rotating Willis-Bradley LAT-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans allows the aircraft to flight at a higher ceiling in thinner air. For ejection, instead of the chair launching out, you're launched in a 'pod'. If needed, you can also eject out of this pod as well.
Technology: The Heads Up Display is used with what we call "VisorDisplay", in which a display will be shown inside the pilots helmet visor, thus allowing him to see highlighted hostiles, even when behind him. The "VisorDisplay", unlike the HUD, does not display altitude, pitch, or speed so that it will not confuse the pilot.
Price: $38 million USD (orders of 750 or more recieve 20% discount)
Picture:
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/macross/zero/vf-0d-fighter.jpg

Streamline TMR-40 'Stud'
Role: Trainer/Multi-Role Fighter
Wing Span: 30.6 ft
Length: 43.0 ft
Height: 15.8 ft
Max Takeoff Weight: 57,520
Powerplant: Twin Willis-Bradley TCJ-230 turbofan producing 11,690 lb thrust.
Maximum speed: Mach 1.5
Cruising speed: Mach 1.0
Range: 1,700 miles
Service Ceiling: 66,500 ft
g limits: +5.9, -3.4. The Pilot Safety System (which can be deactivated) prevent the plane from pulling unsafe g-forces and harming the pilot. Airframe can stand up to 7 gs
Weaponary: Twin RX-150 30mm cannon - one on each wing (rate of 2,000/minute each), upto 15,000 lbs including R-73/R-77 AAMs, ASMs, QAAMs, bombs, rockets, drop tanks, and/or ECM pods carried on eight external points. Twin RX-150 and RX-1500 may be replaced with weapons of your choice for additional cost.
Specialty Features: Has a radar signature of a Su-27. For ejection, instead of the chair launching out, you're launched in a 'pod'. If needed, you can also eject out of this pod as well.
Technology: The Heads Up Display is used with what we call "VisorDisplay", in which a display will be shown inside the pilots helmet visor, thus allowing him to see highlighted hostiles, even when behind him. The "VisorDisplay", unlike the HUD, does not display altitude, pitch, or speed so that it will not confuse the pilot.
Price: $13 million (orders of 500 or more recieve 15% discount)
Picture:
http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/korea/kai/t-50/GE1.jpg

Streamline AS-100 'Domination'
Role: Air Superiority Fighter
Wing Span: 55.7 ft
Length: 75.0 ft
Height: 21.4 ft
Max Takeoff Weight: 64,300
Powerplant: Twin Willis-Bradley DCJ-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans producing 42,450 lb thrust each; Twin Cyclone Blaster pods that store and expel compressed air for 3.2g boosts of accelleration for quick manuevering or takeoff (Takes 13.5 seconds to repressurize)
Maximum speed: Mach 2.57
Cruising speed: Mach 1.69
Range: 2,400 miles
Service Ceiling: 61,600 ft
g limits: +6.3, -4.6. The Pilot Safety System (which can be deactivated) prevent the plane from pulling unsafe g-forces and harming the pilot. Airframe can stand up to 7 gs
Weaponary: Twin RX-150 30mm cannon - one on each wing (rate of 2,000/minute each), upto 20,000 lbs including R-73/R-77 AAMs, ASMs, QAAMs, bombs, rockets, drop tanks, and/or ECM pods carried on twelve external points. Twin RX-150 and RX-1500 may be replaced with weapons of your choice for additional cost.
Specialty Features: Quad-rudders/tails, 3D thrust vectoring, has a radar signature of a Su-27, has built in reconnaissance equipment, missiles can fire in any direction, two rotating Willis-Bradley DCJ-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans allows aircraft to launch and land vertically, world's most manueverable air superiority fighter. For ejection, instead of the chair launching out, you're launched in a 'pod'. If needed, you can also eject out of this pod as well.
Technology: The Heads Up Display is used with what we call "VisorDisplay", in which a display will be shown inside the pilots helmet visor, thus allowing him to see highlighted hostiles, even when behind him. The "VisorDisplay", unlike the HUD, does not display altitude, pitch, or speed so that it will not confuse the pilot.
Price: $38 million USD (orders of 500 or more recieve 20% discount)
Picture:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/s-37scheme2.gif

Please do your own math.

ViZionarian allies recieve 15% off all orders. Not valid with any other offers.

OOC: * Note... for those of you who want to complain about my aircraft not being perfect, two choices: get over it or just don't accept it. It's sad to see so many people are now so uptight as to if you're not an engineer and know everything down to the smallest bolt, you can't build it. So, if you want to complain, STOP HERE. Do not reply, either get over it or don't accept it. After all, while these are quite advanced aircrafts, they are NOT unbeatable.

The Candrian Empire - thank you for KINDLY pointing out flaws. If you're willing to make suggestions instead of trying to start a bitch fest, that is fine guys. Thanks.

Official Communique

Jarridian Bureau of International Acquisitions

[i]Director of Streamline Aeroplanes,

The Pure Democracy of Jarridia is interested in purchasing a number of your new lines of aircraft. We are prepared to purchase them outright via Cash.

This is the order we would like:

2,000 Streamline MR-100 'SuperMan' = $51,200,000,000
1,500 Streamline TMR-40 "Stud' = $15,600,000,000
1,500 Streamline AS 100 "Domination" = $ 45,600,000,000

Sub-Total: 112,400,000,000
Discount: - 16,860,000,000

Total: $ 95,540,000,000

We thank you, and upon confirmation will wire the money to your account. Thank you!

FROM: DANTAG HEAVY INDUSTRIES CORPORATION
TO:Streamline Aeroplanes Storefront

DANTAG Heavy Industries Corporation wishes to purchase the following:

x5-Streamline MR-100 'Superman Multi Role Figthers

Total=$160.000.000USD

Thank You

Ernest Dantag,CEO DANTAG HEAVY INDUSTRIES CORPORATION

The Greal government would like to order 2000 Streamline MR-100 'Superman' for 51.2 billion

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Official Order

We would like to request 1000 Streamline MR-100 'Superman' MRF's.

Cost: $32,000,000,000
20 % discount: $6,400,000,000
Final Cost: $25,600,000,000

What an amazing plane! Money wired after order confirmation.

Sincerely,
Arnold Nugeen
Sectary of Defense

Outstanding! All orders are confirmed, and upon recieving the payment, production will begin!

The Chechen Air Force does not see the feasibility of the "Superman" model combat aircraft. In fact the design seems to be completely and utterly absurd from every standpoint. For this reason none will be ordered.

However on behalf of every aeronautics engineer in service to the Chechen Air Force a question will be asked of the Vizonian government:

"Why?"

The Republic of Chechnya
Redirected response from Chechen Air Force.

ooc: wtf dude? Don't you dare take this to the NS Draftroom, you will be raped worse than MJ in Guantanamo.

FROM: DANTAG HEAVY INDUSTRIES CORPORATION
TO:Streamline Aeroplanes Storefront

Transfer Made

Thank You

Ernest Dantag,CEO DANTAG HEAVY INDUSTRIES CORPORATION

OOC: Might wanna post these designs here (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?). Reasons can follow if requested, but be warned they will be blunt.

The Chechen Air Force does not see the feasibility of the "Superman" model combat aircraft. In fact the design seems to be completely and utterly absurd from every standpoint. For this reason none will be ordered.

However on behalf of every aeronautics engineer in service to the Chechen Air Force a question will be asked of the Vizonian government:

"Why?"

The Republic of Chechnya
Redirected response from Chechen Air Force.

ooc: wtf dude? Don't you dare take this to the NS Draftroom, you will be raped worse than MJ in Guantanamo.

OOC:Stop messing with her

OOC: Might wanna post these designs here (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?). Reasons can follow if requested, but be warned they will be blunt.

OOC: ViZion, if ya ever want to get them off your back, that's how to do it.

OOC: I guess I'm just sad that the days in which you did not have to be an engineer to design something are pasted. It is not like these are just "OMG UNDESTROYABLE!!!". In years past, back in the good ol' days on NS, things were more free flowing and fun-oriented. People seem to take this game to seriously. I will consider putting thing up there on NSD in the future, however I will continue selling these, and if you do not like 'em, just don't accept 'em...

Payment sent.

ooc: I don't care what you say about the feasibility of the plane, it sure is cool as hell to look at. And a lot of things suddenly become feasible when you have enough cash.

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The Ibragimbekov Aerospace Corporation would like to offer its consulting services to Streamline Aeroplanes of ViZion, for any and all future developments.

Signed,
Ibragimbekov Board of Directors

Streamline Aeroplanes will, over time, be introducing new aircrafts on the military side of things.

Hopefully you'll also find the time to edit these designs and make them, erm, feasible, rather than flying unworkable deathtraps.

Seriously, they need work. A lot.




Powerplant: Twin Willis-Bradley DCJ-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans producing 42,500 lb thrust each; Twin Cyclone Blaster pods that store and expel compressed air for 3.2g boosts of accelleration for quick manuevering or takeoff (Takes 13.5 seconds to repressurize); Twin rotating Lyulka AL-37FU vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans (31,500 lb thrust) underneith

This makes my head hurt. You have a design relying on COMPRESSED AIR for additional thrust... too bad anything that would give you noticeable acceleration increases using compressed air would likely lean towards being the size of the fighter itself. IE; it wouldn't work. Ditch it and stick with the afterburner; you couldn't even use it to increase oxygen content in the afterburner stage as you stand a chance of flameout. For short takeoff, just use RATO/JATO bottles. Since they work.

I REALLY hope you mean something like the joint in the F-35B. I can't imagine it would be easy to ROTATE THE MAIN ENGINES to provide verticle lift. Or are you referring to a thrust-vectoring system? In that case, provide more details, otherwise, it's meaningless and distracting.


Weaponary: Twin RX-150 30mm cannon on the nose (rate of 2,000/minute each), one RX-1500 Flak Cannon mounted on a turret above the fuselage...

One generally mounts a radar array in the nose for jet-age fighters. You only need one cannon for a fighter anyway. But if you feel the need for cannons in the nose, where exactly are you going to put the radar?

And please, DITCH THE FLAK TURRET. Turrets on fighters were abandoned in WWI for a reason, and in the jet age, targeting a supersonic fighter on a platform moving past the speed of sound is silly. The use of a turret on a fighter would land you with needless drag as well. Also, flak is of limited use against modern aircraft, as much as I hate to say. (Ask anyone and they'd tell you I'd be the first to live in a world where clouds of flak still struck fear in the hearts of the weak pilots, and tested the mettle of the brave.)


Specialty Features: The turret-mounted Flak Cannon with 35 ammo, quad-rudders/tails, 3D thrust vectoring, Cyclone Blaster pods, has a radar signature of a Su-27, supermaneuverability far beyond that of a F-22, has built in reconnaissance equipment, missiles can fire in any direction, two rotating Willis-Bradley DCJ-500 vectored-thrust afterburning turbofans allows aircraft to launch and land vertically.


You'd get the radar signature of something higher than the Su-27, being larger and having A TURRET ON THE TOP OF YOUR AIRCRAFT.


Technology: Advanced Autopilot allows the aircraft to maneuver and land itself in the event of an emergency in which the pilot is unable to do his or her job. The Heads Up Display is used with what we call "VisorDisplay", in which a display will be shown inside the pilots helmet visor, thus allowing him to see highlighted hostiles, even when behind him. The "VisorDisplay", unlike the HUD, does not display altitude, pitch, or speed so that it will not confuse the pilot. However, the pilot can, with "VisorDisplay", control the Flak Cannon's direction.


Oh god. You're taking away a pilot's flight instruments? This is a true deathtrap; the threat of spatial disorientation is already grave enough in modern aircraft even with a HUD that in some cases could be rated for instrument flight rules; here you're taking away some hapless soul's only defense against crashing into the ocean because you don't want to overload his senses but you give him control over a pointless turret?


OOC: * Note... for those of you who want to complain about my aircraft not being perfect, two choices: get over it or just don't accept it. It's sad to see so many people are now so uptight as to if you're not an engineer and know everything down to the smallest bolt, you can't build it. So, if you want to complain, STOP HERE. Do not reply, either get over it or don't accept it. After all, while these are quite advanced aircrafts, they are NOT unbeatable. Thank you.

I simply can't let this go on. There are major fundamental errors in this, and the thought of someone using this and believing it would be up to snuff scares me, because it simply isn't true. I bring these up because somewhere, some time, someone will use these against a competently designed aircraft, and if this is to stand a chance, it HAS to be well made.

SIC:

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Because of all this dissent about them, we may not fly them on combat sorties, but since we've started throwing this flyer around, voluenteer rates have shot up 9% for the Air Force

Hopefully you'll also find the time to edit these designs and make them, erm, feasible, rather than flying unworkable deathtraps.

Seriously, they need work. A lot.




This makes my head hurt. You have a design relying on COMPRESSED AIR for additional thrust... too bad anything that would give you noticeable acceleration increases using compressed air would likely lean towards being the size of the fighter itself. IE; it wouldn't work. Ditch it and stick with the afterburner; you couldn't even use it to increase oxygen content in the afterburner stage as you stand a chance of flameout. For short takeoff, just use RATO/JATO bottles. Since they work.

I REALLY hope you mean something like the joint in the F-35B. I can't imagine it would be easy to ROTATE THE MAIN ENGINES to provide verticle lift. Or are you referring to a thrust-vectoring system? In that case, provide more details, otherwise, it's meaningless and distracting.



One generally mounts a radar array in the nose for jet-age fighters. You only need one cannon for a fighter anyway. But if you feel the need for cannons in the nose, where exactly are you going to put the radar?

And please, DITCH THE FLAK TURRET. Turrets on fighters were abandoned in WWI for a reason, and in the jet age, targeting a supersonic fighter on a platform moving past the speed of sound is silly. The use of a turret on a fighter would land you with needless drag as well. Also, flak is of limited use against modern aircraft, as much as I hate to say. (Ask anyone and they'd tell you I'd be the first to live in a world where clouds of flak still struck fear in the hearts of the weak pilots, and tested the mettle of the brave.)



You'd get the radar signature of something higher than the Su-27, being larger and having A TURRET ON THE TOP OF YOUR AIRCRAFT.



Oh god. You're taking away a pilot's flight instruments? This is a true deathtrap; the threat of spatial disorientation is already grave enough in modern aircraft even with a HUD that in some cases could be rated for instrument flight rules; here you're taking away some hapless soul's only defense against crashing into the ocean because you don't want to overload his senses but you give him control over a pointless turret?



I simply can't let this go on. There are major fundamental errors in this, and the thought of someone using this and believing it would be up to snuff scares me, because it simply isn't true. I bring these up because somewhere, some time, someone will use these against a competently designed aircraft, and if this is to stand a chance, it HAS to be well made.
OOC: Thank you for KINDLY pointing these flaws out instead of bitching. I've fixed them.

The Money has been wired.