NationStates Jolt Archive


E1950 Main Thread

Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 04:59
Map:
http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1999/worldmapoo9.png

Claim Restrictions
<4 billion Pop/4000 posts
USA
UK
France
Germany

<3 billion pop/3000 posts
Austria
India
Iran
Belgium
Portugal

<2 billion pop/2000 posts
Arabia
The China's
Italy

(NOTE: Nation names are just for refrence, since I didnt feel like typing out 'the Portugal-like country which isnt really Portugal.' every time. Youre free to establish your capitol in whatever part of your nation you like, 'homeland' or historically colonial.)

-All others are free to whoever wants 'em. White countries will be coloured in when claimed.
This can be used as something of a scale to measure a nations power, the higher the requirements, the more powerful a nation is.

-As admin, I reserve the right to revoke claims as I see fit. Generally this will be for acting like an idiot or inactivity.

Nations:
Dontgonearthere (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534582) :: The Peoples Empire of Dontgonearthere (Russia)
Vetalia :: People's Republic of Vetalia (Peoples Republic of China) (X)
Tartarystan :: Japan (X)
Alfegos :: Zambia
Corbournne :: Corbournne (ROC) (X)
Waldenburg 2 :: Waldenburg Empire (Portugal)
Tynlandia :: Greece
Haneastic (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534794) :: The Haneastic League (India) (X)

Threads:
Alfegos Civil War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534590)
DGNT occupies parts of Kazakhstan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534587)
Waldenburg genocide n' stuff (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=534887&highlight=E1950)


Rules
1. Your population is the RL population of the countries your nation occupies during 1950.

2. Dont godmod, wank, flame, troll, etc. etc. etc. etc.

3. Nations get one point per thousand posts (rounded down), but no less than two points per year.

4. Points can be saved or spent as you like. You are not obligated to spend all your points at once. However, you may not take more than ten provinces in a single year.

5. One year is equal to 12 RL days.

6. War will be freeform unless there is an arguement which goes unresolved, in that case, a nuetral third party will be appointed as temporary war mod who will moderate the RP until people think they can get along. If the war mod cant resolve the issue, the administration will step in.

7. Technology may be developed in a logical fashion. IE: In order to build MBT's, first you need to either develope WWII-era tanks, or buy the technology from a nation which already has it.

8. Technolgy can be sold, traded, copied, stolen, etc. via RP. It is perfectly reasonable for your scientists to pick up the whole assault rifle-engine idea after those smarmy gits show up with their fancy jets or whatever, provided you take some time to develope it and such.

9. Colonial territories may be claimed by players other than yourself, who can rebel or manage them as they like. Likewise, you are free to crush said rebellion or depose the leader of that colony as you like.

10. All colonial expansion MUST be RP'd. Each province on the map must be taken on its own, as each represents a country I expect some significant effort to be put into subjugating those sill peoples.

11. Only nations in the first 'tier' (USA, UK, Germany, France, Russia) start with nuclear weapons. Everybody else will need to develop them over several years or purchase them from a nation which has them.

12. Please add [E1950] to the title of your threads. The 'E' is important, since random strings of numbers pop up a lot on forums.

13. In regards to war, please keep a 'Defcon meter' of some sort in your thread. You may raise/lower it at your discretion, however 'Defcon 1' (IE: total nuclear war) is restricted unless some prior descision is made.
Also, please strongly consider the consequences before using nuclear weapons. We all know how unhappy people can get over that sort of thing. Likewise with bio/chemical weapons, although you can get away with using those provided nobody notices (or at least, is alive to report back).

14. You may only use technology developed prior to 1950. That means stuff like jets, assault rifles, nuclear power and all that jazz is VERY limited. More will be developed later on, naturally, but for now, do try to keep things sane. Try to keep roughly to the technology level the nation you selected had IRL during the period.

15. Your GDP is equal to your population times your per-capita GDP here > http://ns.b4yp.com/nseconomy.php?nation=(yournation)
Spending will not be STRICTLY enforced, but do remember to be reasonable.


Basic Factbook Outline:
Name:

Government type:

Ruler:

Population/Demographics:


Cultural/Political notes:

Military:
(Include numbers, deployments, and so on.)

This is, of course, just the very basic stuff. I encourage people to add more detail as they go, but initially a small factbook should be fine.
Vetalia
03-08-2007, 05:00
I will play the Soviet Union-esque Vetalian Soviet Socialist Republic, which will occupy the lands held by the USSR in 1950 (the dark red part of the map, roughly speaking). I want to kind of explore an alternative history within my own nation's history, to see what might have happened if the Vetalian government had pursued a different path in its history.

Name: People's Republic of Vetalia

Government type: Democratic centralism

Ruler: Premier Alexei Rodachenko of the CPV

Population/Demographics: 501 million

Cultural/Political notes: The PRV is currently under the control of a strongly Stalinist leader that intends to rule over territories belonging to the PRV with an iron fist while simultaneously attempting to encourage the spread of Communism around the world. The country has completed postwar reconstruction and is making efforts to close the economic gap between the PRV and other countries.

Military: 15 million troops strong as of 1949

The troops are stationed primarily on the coast with about 3 million along the border with the Korean Peninsula and 4 million along the border with Southeast Asia. Another 2 million are on the border with the PED. At present, the army is overwhelmingly land-based and modernized with some air support, albeit technically lagging compared to other nations of the time. The PRV successfully detonated its first nuclear weapon in 1947 and is currently working to expand its program as an alternative to conventional warfare, and its program is one of the most advanced in the world.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 05:07
Already took that part for meself >_>
Vetalia
03-08-2007, 05:08
Already took that part for meself >_>

Alright, then I'll take China. It'll be historically divergent, but we could have some interesting roleplay between our states and the battle for leadership of world Communism.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 05:12
Works for me. The Peoples Republic and not the Republic, I assume?
Vetalia
03-08-2007, 05:14
Works for me. The Peoples Republic and not the Republic, I assume?

Sounds good to me.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 05:43
Gotcha.

Should have my factbook up by tommorow.
Tartarystan
03-08-2007, 05:49
Can I take Japan? If not, I'll go for Scandinavia.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 06:08
Japan it is.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 17:20
bump
Honako
03-08-2007, 17:30
May I claim Austria-Hungary? If not, Germany. If neither, erm...
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 17:37
Hmm, unfourtunatly you dont meet the requirements for either. If youre interested in Nationalist China though, I'd be willing to waive the requirements for it.
Remember, location has nothing to do with culture and such. If you want to fill Nationalist China with Austrians or Germans, youre free to do so.
Alfegos
03-08-2007, 17:53
I wish to claim Zambia, and wish to point out that the country is currently in civil war ( Alfegos had a civil war from 1950 - 1954 )
Alfegos
03-08-2007, 17:58
Name: Alfegos

Government type: Anarchy (Civil war between Democratic and Communist factions)

Ruler: None

Population/Demographics: 6.2 million, 45% men 55% women.


Cultural/Political notes: CIVIL WAR!!!
Was a democracy, until communists started revolting, overthrowing the government.

Military: Loyalist army of 200 000, Communist army of 189 000

Both killing each other across the nation.
(Include numbers, deployments, and so on.)
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 18:01
Done.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 18:24
Looks good. Once you've fleshed your factbooks out, please make a seperate thread for them.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 19:13
bump
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 20:31
Minor doh't.
It looks like Zimbabwe is part of Oman's little empire. Is Botswana or Zambia acceptable?
Alfegos
03-08-2007, 21:18
I will take instead Zambia (because of the Diamonds and all the minerals!)

Post will be updated.
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 21:21
Gotcha
Corbournne
03-08-2007, 22:50
(Since Honako hasn't come back, would it be possible for me to have the ROC?)

Name: The Constitutional Monarchy of Corbournne

Government Type: Parliamentary Republic

Ruler: King John II

Population/Demographics: approx. 250 million/50% Male, 50% Female
27% English
25% French
21% Welsh
14% Russian
7% Scottish
4% German
2% Irish

Cultural/Political Notes: 29% Protestant
29% Roman Catholic
7% Eastern Orthodox
15% Atheist
15% Agnostic

Military: 2.5 million, deployments later
Dontgonearthere
03-08-2007, 22:51
Sure.
And I think your population would be a bit higher. The Southern part of China is more desnly populated than the North.
Honako
03-08-2007, 23:43
Hmm, unfourtunatly you dont meet the requirements for either. If youre interested in Nationalist China though, I'd be willing to waive the requirements for it.
Remember, location has nothing to do with culture and such. If you want to fill Nationalist China with Austrians or Germans, youre free to do so.

Hmm..may I take Italy and it's Empire then.
Dontgonearthere
04-08-2007, 01:52
Mmmh, I suppose. However, I do expect some actual activity, as in actually making threads and such. Inertia is the death of Earths and it would be nice of you to assist us in getting rolling.
Kansiov
04-08-2007, 01:55
Is it still open?
Dontgonearthere
04-08-2007, 02:01
Quite.
Waldenburg 2
04-08-2007, 02:31
"As the Quasi Portugal nation"

Name: The Most Divine Waldenburg Empire

Government type: Absolute Monarchy, Theocracy

Ruler: His Most Gracious Imperial Majesty Wyatt von Waldenburg IV: His majesty took the throne on the final wish of his dying father Felix von Waldenburg who, after committing many war crimes and was accused of espionage, crimes against humanity, attempted murder, murder, attempted genocide, heresy and sodomy. The current Emperor took the throne in 1934 in a sea of troubles, still facing old animosities and the crumbling structure of a Theocracy.

Population/Demographics: 206,811,483 (61% White, 12% Mix Blood {Native and White} 25% Native\Hispanic 2% Emigrated\Other)

In the early years of exploration the Church ordered that White blood should not be mixed with natives' and a massive breeding program arranged by the Church carefully trimmed up the race by sterilizations and executions of undesirables. This lasted until the Reign of Felix von Waldenburg

Religion: (100% Catholic or else)

The faith of the population is avidly enforced by the Priests and Inquisitors of St. Micheal's Cathedral the massive hub of religious life based in Blündrburg (Lisbon.) It is considered near criminal to visit Waldenburg without converting and it should be noted that Converted is the greatest diplomatic status Waldenburg bestows.

Literacy Rate: Citizens above the age of 16 that can read and write according to a state issued test: 91%




Cultural/Political notes: Most of the day to day running of the government is now handled by Cardinal Harald Thousis of the Imperial Church. The Emperor and his family only retain reliable control of the military, while other departments slip ever further into the hands of the Council of Bishops. Although even one legion of the Military has joined the Clergy, The Divine Legion the most feared fighting force in the empire.

GDP: 5,181,248,083,599 USD (Am I correct in assuming Portugal contains Brazil + Paraguay?

Tourist Advisement: Do not Visit

Military:

890,000 Active Duty Personnel
1.5 Million Conscripts
1.9 Million Reserves

Senior Branch of Military:
Imperial Navy

The deployment and more exact numbers to follow.


(Include numbers, deployments, and so on.)
Dontgonearthere
04-08-2007, 03:23
Approved
Dontgonearthere
04-08-2007, 04:58
bump
Dontgonearthere
04-08-2007, 19:50
Thus far the only person aside from myself to post has been Alfegos.
Inactivity senses tingling. Some posts, PLEASE?
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 02:49
-_-
Tynlandia
05-08-2007, 03:13
Greece

Name: The United Provinces of Tynlandia

Government type: Constitutional Monarchy (Parlimentary Democracy)

Ruler: King George III

Population/Demographics: 12 Million

Cultural/Political notes: Is currently trying to build ground in the political world.

Military: ~6,000 Professional - ~10,000 Militia

Not Very deveolped . Trains less men more instead of a lot of men less.
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 03:18
Two questions.
1. Are you actually going to be active?
2. By 'highly advanced weapons' you mean 'highly advanced weapons purchased from more advanced nations', yes? Since Greece isnt even on the power scale.
Haneastic
05-08-2007, 03:18
Is this still open? My Population's 3.307 Billion, but I'm not sure what's still open
Tynlandia
05-08-2007, 03:21
Yes I will be active. I was gone for the weekend (Vacation). But I'm on almost everyday. I used to be another Nation but it was deleted. I'll change the highly advanced weapons part (Hey it's late and I've been reenacting all day). :D
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 03:22
Works for me. Sorry if I come off as a bit irritated, but I'm a bit irritated, you understand.
Tynlandia
05-08-2007, 03:24
No problem. Not everyday is a Good one. Well I'm for tonight (Damn summer reading) >.>. Well I'll be on tommorow and Post my factbook and such. Now am I accepted?
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 03:25
Yeah, gogogo, etc.
Haneastic
05-08-2007, 03:30
Question. My access the last 2 weeksm of august won't be a lot (3 times a week for not very long), so should I wait until I come back or join now and play through the time I have less access?
Haneastic
05-08-2007, 03:37
I was interested in Iran if possible, India as a second choice
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 03:39
Depends on the nation you take. If you were to take a smaller nation thats no problem. If you want a larger nation I can reserve it for you to take when you get back.
Haneastic
05-08-2007, 03:47
I was interested in Iran if possible, India as a second choice

either one acceptable?
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 04:38
Sure, you can start with either one now.
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 07:28
derp
Honako
05-08-2007, 09:17
Don't worry, I'll start posting as Italy soon. Thanks for accepting me.
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 17:26
Well, thats good at least. Thanks.
Dontgonearthere
05-08-2007, 22:46
derp
Tynlandia
06-08-2007, 01:35
Do I make a Seperate thread for my Factbook or do I post in this one?
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 01:51
A seperate thread is preferable. TG me or post the link to it here so I can put it on the front page.
Haneastic
06-08-2007, 02:13
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12940502&posted=1#post12940502

is this 1950 tech?
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 02:23
Dunno, theres no tech there yet :P
By the way, your population is WAY too high. It should be in the 60,000,000 range from what I can see, since your two most populous countries (Iran and Pakistan) have 16,000,000 and 39,000,000 people at this juncture. If you had India, your figure would be about right.

(Assuming you picked Iran. If youre India, then your pop is a BIT high, Populstat says ~350,000,000 during 1950
Haneastic
06-08-2007, 02:42
I picked India sorry for the confusion, there;s also the bangladesh population which according to the map I also have
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 02:45
Ah, right. Carry on :D
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 04:08
Looks good for the most part, however...lose the carriers in your navy though. Only the real big players could afford 'em.
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 17:40
Good morning 1950.
Waldenburg 2
06-08-2007, 17:52
Sorry for my inactivity so far but Real life catches up occasionally I should have a thread up later tonight or early next morning.
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 19:09
kk, I'll look forward to it.
Haneastic
06-08-2007, 19:42
so India/Bangladesh can't afford carriers?

What about Light Carriers or Escort Carriers?

also, has the game officially begun?
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 20:17
Not many people can afford carriers, and India is a regional power at best. Its got lots of people, but little infrastructure.
You might be able to build light carriers, but theyre pretty much obsolete at this point since they cant operate jet aircraft effeciently. And even then, they would be a big drain on the budget.
Roads first, then you can worry about projecting imperial power, aye?
Haneastic
06-08-2007, 20:45
But it's so much fun to rush into a war and have your country fall apart for lack of improvement!
Dontgonearthere
06-08-2007, 20:55
You can do that on the ground, its easy to build rifles. Carriers are too expensive for madmen :P
If you REALLY want them, buy them from the UK or USA or something once we get one. I dont have any myself, since the Ruskies didnt build a real carrier until the 1980's.

EDIT:
New factbook looks good. GTFI the game.
Haneastic
07-08-2007, 00:04
just one more question before I start something, are the Maldives mine or ripe for conquest?
Waldenburg 2
07-08-2007, 00:51
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12943343#post12943343 Alright here's the start of my genocide thread.
Dontgonearthere
07-08-2007, 01:20
Added Waldenburg's RP to the front page

Hmmm...yeah, theyre already yours. You could invade Burma...but then, even the Burmese have trouble controlling Burma. :P
Dontgonearthere
10-08-2007, 21:57
This lasted a while.
-_-
Dontgonearthere
10-08-2007, 21:59
An (X) next to a nation in the claim section indicates inactivity, those nations may be claimed unless the person who currently owns it becomes active.
Tynlandia
11-08-2007, 02:47
This is my new Topic I posted.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=535283
Alfegos
11-08-2007, 08:04
I need more people joining in, so it is actually a RP, and not just me bumping it.
Dontgonearthere
12-08-2007, 16:24
Well, I did try.
*shrug*
Its just that people who sign up and never post make me apathetic and angry at the same time. Not a good combination. I need to go and beat my head against the wall for a bit before I can go on.
*ahem*
Anyway, what did you have in mind for that particular RP? Maybe I can work something interesting into it that doesnt involve smashing certain political ideaologies.
Alfegos
12-08-2007, 17:58
What happened in official Alfegos history is that the communists took over most of the country, including the capital. But he heads of state escaped, and launched a counter-attack against the communists with help from other capitalists, ending on Janruary 2nd 1954 with the siege of the communist HQ in Milkavich.

The communists go into hiding, but first launch a revenge attack on the capital with chemical weapons.