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All OCC should go here now.

Akimonad, where are your ships right now, anyways?

a great idea. It was getting tedious to be the only one actually IC in there.

Akimonad, where are your ships right now, anyways?

Away from the battle, evidently.

Any place special, or no?

Why is every nation taking the side of terrorists who want to kill everyone in Raptor pack, JUST because they are not human? Seems a little backwards. ._.

Any place special, or no?

No, they just scampered off somewheres.

Why is every nation taking the side of terrorists who want to kill everyone in Raptor pack, JUST because they are not human? Seems a little backwards. ._.

Ah, not exactly, there is bad blood between Raptor and a few other nations (myself included) which is where a lot of this is coming from.

Actually I've condemned the actions against Raptor and am actually working on finding Noah's Flood operatives in my country, but as Akimonad is my ally I have to support his actions.

Watch how broad a brush your using there.

but as Akimonad is my ally I have to support his actions.

You don't HAVE to. But you can.

You don't HAVE to. But you can.

I am... to an extent.

Still that no reason to just gang up on them and completely wipe out their species. I'm the only one helping them, and I can't go all out because I don't want you attacking my capital. If you did The Monolith would probably decimate anyone trying. It's the most powerful weapon/ship/Capital building in the ACD.

Still that no reason to just gang up on them and completely wipe out their species. I'm the only one helping them, and I can't go all out because I don't want you attacking my capital. If you did The Monolith would probably decimate anyone trying. It's the most powerful weapon/ship/Capital building in the ACD.

Who said anything about wiping out their species? We're not Noah's Flood.

I said you were, but there are a other nations out there that want to, and if the Rapter pack's borders are breached, they probably will.

I said you were, but there are a other nations out there that want to, and if the Rapter pack's borders are breached, they probably will.

OOC: It was highly unlikely that this would happen before but now with support from the Knights Templar and Akimonad it seems that a war may likely take place on Raptor Pack soil. Which was what the velociraptors were trying to avoid when they addressed the nations on this matter.

That would require your permission, Advent. That and the willingness of the nations attacking to stick it through, which rarely happens.

Also, Advent, this is rp. We don't need the best of reasons for something. My nation LOVES war, it loves it like a fat kid loves cake.

Times 100.

So, they are joining on the Akimonadian side simply because these guys are powerful and attacking someone. They want in on the fun. That and no matter how strong my ship is, it can't take on a fleet all by itself. And, with what little navy I have, I can't spare any others or I risk losing defenses.

So, in the end, its just a matter of choice. The ganging up happens, not everyone is going to play nice and go "Bad Terrorists! Must aid the lizards!" Some will hate the lizards (xenophobia), or will aid the terrorists out of spite. They will do so in order to weaken them or take some of their technology, land, etc. It's simply how NS works.

I posted, Akimonad and am talking to your forces...wherever they are.

OOC: It was highly unlikely that this would happen before but now with support from the Knights Templar and Akimonad it seems that a war may likely take place on Raptor Pack soil. Which was what the velociraptors were trying to avoid when they addressed the nations on this matter.

So you aggressively attacked one of my citizens because you wanted your nation to be left alone? Fail to see the logic in that.

I posted, Akimonad and am talking to your forces...wherever they are.

Duly noted.

Yes, you replied. I am just waiting on you to restart the battle.

Also, Advent. Stop right there. Akimonad is FAR away from the planet now, enough that a close transmission would not be detected by you. We were extremely close to the Akimonad fleet and sent a transmission to them only. So, how you would detect this is beyond me.

So, I think some editing is in order.

Yes, you replied. I am just waiting on you to restart the battle.

The daisy chain continues, as I wait for Raptor to post something in-character.

Theres a defence platform drifting through that area, it was displaced by Nexus' destruction. It picked up the message.

I see.

Also, Advent, I find it funny how you suddenly have weapons that can disable EMP weaponry. Quite funny.

And you can somehow destroy the orbital path of a planet? I am sorry but I find that to have risen the wank level another notch, here.

it's just destroying the detonating computer on the missiles. not really the emp. and it's a huge portal. and Pluto isn't really considered a planet anymore.

Also, in reference to this:

Another Monolith arrived through the portal and began to move towards this new battle as sub-light speed.

How big are these things? Because with your budget I find you incapable of having one, much less two, if they're as big as I think they are.

it's just destroying the detonating computer on the missiles. not really the emp. and it's a huge portal. and Pluto isn't really considered a planet anymore.

I don't remember mentioning any such devices.

This is becoming tedious. I'm about ready to blink out of here.

Okay. For the last time, my budget on earth does NOT reflect mine on my home planet. second off, yes they are huge. The original intent of them is to forcefully terraform planets. Think Genisis in StarTrek 2 wrath of Khan.

Such "devices" are on any missile.

This is becoming tedious. I'm about ready to blink out of here.

How so?

Okay. For the last time, my budget on earth does NOT reflect mine on my home planet.

I'm fairly certain that this is godmoding.

It's one damn ship! deal with it alright?! It's moving slowly, wont come into play for a while. I'm aloud to send reinforcements.

Not really, as only one ship was sent.

Perhaps, but you can't just make up money.

I don't use the budget, too confusing for me. I use the 1000 ships per billion rule, and then tone it down from that.

Also, Advent, I read no such sentence, word, or post you made that said you deployed a defense station.

It's one damn ship! deal with it alright?! It's moving slowly, wont come into play for a while. I'm aloud to send reinforcements.

It's not so much the ship as
1) Conjuring weapons out of thin air
2) Creating craft that we can't defeat as you have stated several times you have.

Raptor, lets get one thing straight. You too, Advent. WE, as in those in control of the nation we are rping, say whether or not we take damage, are affected by certain abilities or have our transmissions interrupted. Not you. To say you are is to powerplay, which is A BAD THING tm.

Also, who the hell fired nukes? I don't remember reading that...

I pretty sure I... well crap. I did forget to post what got displaced. Sorry about that. >.<

And you know what. I'm sick on this. I'm just done. Fuck it. All of you only ever notice MY slight godmoding, and ignore everyone elses. So goodbye. good riddens. Sorry raptor your on your own now I guess. I'ma go delete all my posts.

Yay more godmoding by you.

Also, who the hell fired nukes? I don't remember reading that...

I launched a bunch of EMP missiles, which use nukes.

I'ma go delete all my posts.

Well, then that retcons any damage you've dealt to my ships, and I'm at full strength again. The Arkbird returns.

....Right. Go off and whine to someone else, we don't care anymore. I was being NICE about what was said, but what you were doing was really, quite pathetic, irritating and annoying. So, I said something. OH NOES, I HAD TEH OPINIONZ11111!!!.

Anyways, guess that gets rid of that message.

Oh and, I'd advise not swearing at Akimonad or whoever it was. That is flame, and you will get in trouble for it. I am asking nicely, please edit that.

Yay more godmoding by you.

'Fraid not. If you delete your posts, you delete your attacks.

I pretty sure I... well crap. I did forget to post what got displaced. Sorry about that. >.<

And you know what. I'm sick on this. I'm just done. Fuck it. All of you only ever notice MY slight godmoding, and ignore everyone elses. So goodbye. good riddens. Sorry raptor your on your own now I guess. I'ma go delete all my posts.

SLIGHT GODMODDING!!:eek::eek::eek: you destroyed friggin Pluto! That's enormous frickin GodModding!

I'm pulling back, have fun boys.

Mind telling me what I did seemed really outrageous to you?

Mind telling me what I did seemed really outrageous to you?

Look, I don't mind throwing out budgets but I have to have some realism you have ships that launch thousands of missiles in a volley, and viral crystals, and you have no money set aside for defense and only 20 million people.

It's not just you, in fact I was fine with you till that point. It's the entire tenure this thread has taken. Believe me I'd love to have an all out conventional war with Raptor, but not this way, it's just too extreme for my taste.

Akimonad, the bouncing laser is absolutely ludicrous and the Raptor Pack's powerful defensive shields are also silly.

Both of you are godmoding in a way. Firstly, how does a shield use that energy? If we accept the shields work in this universe we have to set down a principle by which they work. A magnetic field is useful against missiles, or plasma weapons, but useless against non-ferrous kinetic weapons and lasers.

A gravity field will do wonders against lasers, by bending the light away if used right. But the be able to generate it takes a lot of energy, to the point where it would be easier to gather the physical matter to lens the light away then generate the equivalent gravity field.

A plasma shield is a very physical shield working at 15,000 kelvin, and can incinerate matter based attacks like missiles, and shells. Plasma can be manipulated by such powerful magnetic fields to add to the shield. Lasers however would find themselves unaffected. Perhaps a minor gravity field can lens it away, but that would find itself overloaded and then good old fashioned armor would have to be the solution.

Remember, shields aren't an omnipotent solution to everything. Describe its properties and remember this is a game. All that energy must be taken from somewhere, the engines, weapons systems, and you can't keep replenishing it or else you'd just be a giant shooting gallery. Shields would also prevent you from firing your weapons, unless they are lasers. But lasers and shields are both highly energy intensive things.

Also Akimonad, we have had a huge problem with you godmodding and it is getting annoying to deal with. Lets take some losses here people!

I've lost a Destroyer which has yet to impact the Earth, and a Cruiser and my fleet is scattered.

Also Akimonad, we have had a huge problem with you godmodding and it is getting annoying to deal with. Lets take some losses here people!

Frankly, I'm not sure what exactly encompasses godmoding and the stickies didn't help that at all.

Frankly, I'm not sure what exactly encompasses godmoding and the stickies didn't help that at all.

You fleets magically fly across the seas, your Arkbird has shields that can resist its own weapon multiple times.

Your Arkbird also seems to be some sort of huge capital ship holding hundreds of fighters that can suddenly appear on the ground while taking no losses.

You've also failed to respond to the Nexus blowing up.

Edited for misunderstanding.

Did I not make this fucking clear? I DON'T USE BUDGETS! Jesus Christ, take the stick out of your ass! We all don't do it one way. I don't use it as it is confusing and I don't like it. I rp for the story, okay? Can you understand that simple concept? All this shit about stats and whatnot is bullshit

Yes, I know stats help to keep the game balanced, but there is an element called player participation, when the players try to keep balance themselves. Stats...are not everything people. Also, going by the fricking 1000 per billion rule, which has apparently bypassed you entirely, I can only have, say, 20 ships.

I have 7. Get the hint, more resources put into each ship.

The Kadium is based off of Tiberium. If you don't know what it does, go read up on it. It's viral as hell, so back off skippy.

And thousands of missiles. Well, lets see. This is a heavy cruiser, a, god-frigging CAPITAL SHIP. So, I'd imagine, it can fire a LOT OF THINGS.

Oh my GOD people, this is fucking FT, realism is nice but a lot can be left at the door.

I am also willing to be REASONABLE, but its kinda hard when uptight players like you insist one thing. And when I make one "mistake" in your mind, I apparently am on the "do not rp list" instead of, maybe, ASKING ME TO CHANGE IT!

I can easily tone it down. I am feeling out my nation, for the love of god. Jesus Christ, I can compromise but only when people, you know, talk to each other.

First of all calm the hell down,

Second of all, I'm not saying you have to change anything, I'm saying I don't feel like playing by those rules. So I'm out. That's all, not saying my way is better, or your way is bad, or your mother's ugly.

Third, like I said it wasn't just you. It was the tone of the whole set of posts, do what you want, rip him apart I don't care but it's not my style of warfare or my style of RPing, so peace out.

Sorry, I am just tired of people pulling the budget thing on me...

Very well, have fun with whatever rps you start and/or participate in.

I can give you answers about Raptor Pack weapons.

By energy weapons, I mean ion weapons. Electrical fields, lasers, plasma.

Deathnets: Are fields of super charged ions that can expand to a radius of a few hundred feet. After that they know longer have a strong enough charge to kill. The ions are held together by a magnetic field emanating from an incredibly powerful magnetic generater the size of a small bead. Deathnets are used to take out large groups of enemies. Against ships and vehicles, the ions usualy spread through the conductive matierial electricuting personel inside or damaging the circuitry and computers somtimes stunning or disabling a vehicle. The ions can cause damage to the enemies shield, somtimes spreading to the shields generater (Sometimes).

Cleavers: The rings encircle an object and create a wall of heated plasma that will cut through the object. This wall of plasma is held in by an electro magnetic field generated by these pods. You only totaly destroy a cleaver ring when only one is left. If two pods were left they would attempt to form a plasma stream through the target. If all but one are destroyed the last one will, as a last resort, crash into it's target.

Lasers: Large lasers (Duh) that fire continuously and are usualy "slashed" across several targerts. Used on the ground as machine guns and larger ones used as anti air and space weapons.

Neck-wrist guns: Personal weapons fitted into raptor neck devices. Latches around wrist and moves in sync with arm allowing them to shoot and fight during close quarter battle. (Which they relish.) It fires concentrated plasma. Which the neck device produces from plasma mateirials in the air.

I can give you answers about Raptor Pack weapons.

By energy weapons, I mean ion weapons. Electrical fields, lasers, plasma.

Deathnets: Are fields of super charged ions that can expand to a radius of a few hundred feet. After that they know longer have a strong enough charge to kill. The ions are held together by a magnetic field emanating from an incredibly powerful magnetic generater the size of a small bead. Deathnets are used to take out large groups of enemies. Against ships and vehicles, the ions usualy spread through the conductive matierial electricuting personel inside or damaging the circuitry and computers somtimes stunning or disabling a vehicle. The ions can cause damage to the enemies shield, somtimes spreading to the shields generater (Sometimes).

The size of bead? that is impossible, even in FT. A magentic the size of a bead would only have enough energy to create a field of a few millmeters, maybe centemeters in Ft.

The size of bead? that is impossible, even in FT. A magentic the size of a bead would only have enough energy to create a field of a few millmeters, maybe centemeters in Ft.

Anything is possible in FT. It's up to you whether you accept it.

Anything is possible in FT. It's up to you whether you accept it.

The problem is that this may allow for too much. And we have to place reasonable limits. Whats to say I don't have smart bullets that work like the Deathnets?

That are the size of small beads, are able to pierce any armor and skin, move from space to earth, and accurately hit their targets. Then have them swarm around The Raptor Pack killing random people.

It'd be bad storywise.

Raptor Pack can keep shooting at us, but we can do other things once we realize the fire is too heavy.

I'm not trying to be invincible! The ions of deathnets go through conductible matierial they don't seek out targets. They are just fired in a direction and expand the longer they travel. It's physics. The Raptor Pack has always been fascinated with ions and magnetism. That's somthing I swear to God I didn't make up.