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The United Nations
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Brief Overview Of The United Nations And It’s Basic Goals

WE THE PEOPLES OF THE UNITED NATIONS DETERMINED
- to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which has in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind, and
- to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and
- to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and
- to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom,
AND FOR THESE ENDS
to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and
- to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and
- to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and
- to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples,
HAVE RESOLVED TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS

The United Nations is an organization which main goals are listed above. It hopes to promote freedom, democracy, human rights and world stability and peace, plus help rid the world of famine, disease and debt. It is spilt into numerous bodies which administer there areas. All nations in the world that are internationally recognized are welcome to apply to the UN. The UN is a free, international forum, where members are not bound by alliance or war, and can bring stability to the fragile world we live in.

Brief Overview Of The Various Councils Of The UN (more to be added later)

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The flags of the UN member nations

The UN Security Council

The United Nations will have the same organizations and structure for the most part as it has now. The UN Security Council is one of the most vital parts of the UN organization. While other organs of the United Nations only make recommendations to member governments, the Security Council has the power to make decisions which member governments must carry out. It consists of five permanent seats and four temporary seats. The five permanent seat holders have the power to VETO (block) any resolution from adoption, though they cannot halt discussion of that resolution. The other four members are not granted the VETO power, but are granted the right to discuss decisions in the forum with other UNSC members. The UNSC four temporary seats will change ever year (RL 12 Days). It will be voted upon by the General Assembly and UNSC as to who receives the seats. It will go by region, like this:

Europe: 1 Seat
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): 1 Seat
Asia (and Oceania): 1 Seat
Africa: 1 Seat

The five permanent seats are held by:

The Franco Confederation
The Armed Republic of Carloginias
The Neo-Prussian Parliamentary Republic of Kampfers
The Northern Imperial Republic
The Kingdom of Animarnia

The rest of the Security Council is as follows:

Undecided

The UN Peacekeeping Force

If a resolution is passed where a peacekeeping force is decided to be needed in a situation of war, the UN members will be asked to donate troops and military equipment to the peacekeeping effort.

The UN Headquarters

The following cities have been put forward for the UN HQ. A poll has been placed above listed the cities that have desired to hold the HQ’s of the UN.

The UN Secretary General

Whoever wishes to RP this role, please say. You will RP the meetings of the UN when they are called. This thread will be like a general Hub for the UN, where resolutions are made and passed or VETO’d. However, there may need to be outside UN threads. Anyway, basically, you will have to RP this man as following the ideals of the UN – so no attempts at getting some crackpot anti-freedom anti-everything the UN is about guy to do it, as some would attempt.

OOC: This is very basic, please ask if anyone wants to add to it. The only council that has been highlighted is the UNSC as it’s the most important probably to this world…no need to go into depth about things like culture when what most have on their mind is war. This is all the RPing I’ll be doing about the UN, so if someone wants to organize the meetings etc...otherwise, it’ll die.

The Franco Confederations votes for the future members of the UN Security Council are as follows:

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas
Asia (and Oceania): Southeast Asian Republic
Africa: The Grand Duchy of Lachenburg

The Franco Confederations votes for the future members of the UN Security Council are as follows:

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas
Asia (and Oceania): Southeast Asian Republic
Africa: The Grand Duchy of Lachenburg

The VDB votes for the future members of the UN Security Council as:

The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The Allied States of Vanek Drury Brieres

Yes.:)

Animarnia Votes for the Following

Europe: The Iberian Empire Of Willink
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas
Asia (and Oceania): The Dominion of Amazonion Beasts
Africa/Mid East: The Armed Federation of Ambrose-Douglas

The Franco Confederations votes for the future members of the UN Security Council are as follows:

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas
Asia (and Oceania): Southeast Asian Republic
Africa: The Grand Duchy of Lachenburg

His Royal Highness' Government seconds this proposal.

Kampfers Votes for the Following

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): abstain
Asia (and Oceania): The Dominion of Amazonion Beasts
Africa/Mid East: The Armed Federation of Ambrose-Douglas[/QUOTE]

OOC: Candistan and AB need to hurry and vote... I think they will be the same as mine though.

The Northern Imperial Republic votes as follows:

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
Asia (and Oceania): The Dominion of Amazonion Beasts
Africa/Mid East: The Armed Federation of Ambrose-Douglas

The Franco Confederations votes for the future members of the UN Security Council are as follows:

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas
Asia (and Oceania): Southeast Asian Republic
Africa: The Grand Duchy of Lachenburg

Seconds.

The United Kingdom of Greater Corbournne's votes for the future members of the UN Security Council are as follows:

Europe: Abstain
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): Abstain
Asia (and Oceania): The United Kingdom of Greater Corbournne
Africa: Abstain

Europe: Abstain
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): Imperium of Brazil
Asia (and Oceania): The United Kingdom of Greater Corbournne
Africa: The Armed Federation of Ambrose-Douglas

Brittonia would like to know who the temporary members of the security council are.

The United Kingdom of Greater Corbournne would like to change its votes for the future members of the UN Security Council to the following:

Europe: Abstain
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): Imperium of Brazil
Asia (and Oceania): The United Kingdom of Greater Corbournne
Africa: Abstain

(Also, if no one else wants it, I'll be the Secretary General.)

DP, Carloginias is a permanent seat holder, he'll get in regardless. :) And sure Cour, though you'll have to RP most of the UN, though it shouldn't be many outside threads, most will be done in here.

OOC: People, your reps can be whoever. They will basically live there, and everytime an issue comes up to issue on the UNSC you don't have to RP them arriving, you just have to express your view. Voting will continue for a further 24 hours, then whoever got the most will be inducted. So, currently, it's just the five powers who are in. I call the first meeting...the The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar, and H-Town are elected. Amazon and AD are looking likely to fill in the other roles, though I’ll give it 24 hours.

The slightly aging, and balding, Franco delegate to the United Nations Security Council was Marcel Bern, a man who cared little for diplomacy, yet had spent half his life focused on it. He was a strong traditionalist who spoke like he cared little about an issue always, despite how he felt; he had a feeling of emptiness of emotion. He was tough though, and was prepared to wield Franco's powers, and would not be intimidated by any other fool in the room who thought they had more right to be here and greater power than his home land.

He spoke, mumbling slightly, into the microphone in front of him "I would like to...I mean, it all seems..." He wasn't really make much sense and seemed to wonder off, but he finally cleared he throat and said, looking at all the nations but Carloginias

"I would like to enquire, allies and associates of the nation who committed this barbaric attack, why exactly now, and for what reasons, is the often problematic but recently quiet North Korea being brutally attacked? I would also like to add to this, by asking, whether you would be careless enough to employ the use of nuclear weapons during these attacks?"

He finished the sentence with a stern look on his face.

OOC: H-town isn't even active.

OOC: People, your reps can be whoever. They will basically live there, and everytime an issue comes up to issue on the UNSC you don't have to RP them arriving, you just have to express your view. Voting will continue for a further 24 hours, then whoever got the most will be inducted. So, currently, it's just the five powers who are in. I call the first meeting...the The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar, and H-Town are elected. Amazon and AD are looking likely to fill in the other roles, though I’ll give it 24 hours.

The slightly aging, and balding, Franco delegate to the United Nations Security Council was Marcel Bern, a man who cared little for diplomacy, yet had spent half his life focused on it. He was a strong traditionalist who spoke like he cared little about an issue always, despite how he felt; he had a feeling of emptiness of emotion. He was tough though, and was prepared to wield Franco's powers, and would not be intimidated by any other fool in the room who thought they had more right to be here and greater power than his home land.

He spoke, mumbling slightly, into the microphone in front of him "I would like to...I mean, it all seems..." He wasn't really make much sense and seemed to wonder off, but he finally cleared he throat and said, looking at all the nations but Carloginias

"I would like to enquire, allies and associates of the nation who committed this barbaric attack, why exactly now, and for what reasons, is the often problematic but recently quiet North Korea being brutally attacked? I would also like to add to this, by asking, whether you would be careless enough to employ the use of nuclear weapons during these attacks?"

He finished the sentence with a stern look on his face.


The Animarnia Delegate was an older woman; in her late 40's to early 50's; she had greyish blond hair and wore a deep red crimson style tunic under a Grey Jacket. She adjusted her glasses and gave a steel glare at the Franco delegate. "Animarnia firmly believes he nation of North Korea is a threat to its national security; not just for Animarnia but for regional allies and friends; they are a psychotic dictatorship; a nuclear armed dictatorship and pose a significant threat to all of Asia. Furthermore Animarnia can no longer ignore the humanitarian situation in North Korea now we are in a position to do something about it; will people die in the war? Certainly but will more die over 10 years if we did nothing; should we wait for North Korea to drop a nuclear weapon on Drosk or Soul Or Lilica or Paris before we act?" she said in reply.

"As for your second question; Animarnia would never use a nuclear weapon in a first strike situation; we firmly believe in nuclear weapons as a deterrence and have a no-first use policy in place however should North Korea use a nuclear device against us it will be met in kind as per the Alexia Doctrine" she replied coldly.

OOC: I really am flattered by the support here during my days off. Thanks people. lol

IC:
A young, nervous young man stood up next. He had large glasses that constantly seemed to be sliding down his nose, constantly forcing him to push them back up. He was a replacement for someone else, a legend: Benjamin J. Douglas, grandson of the co-founder of their Federation. Douglas hadn't wanted to come out of retirement, so they had thumbed him instead: Under-Ambassador Jacob K. Arnasi.

A kid still, to be sure, barely twenty three years of age and fresh out of the Federation's top diplomatic and law programs. He was a genius, with an IQ of over 170, but his people skills left... well, to say they left something to be desired would be an understatement. Still, he was their youngest and brightest, not to mention the best they had on hand, so he was sent to this new United Nations. He reported directly to Ambassador Berkeley, and everyone was hoping he wouldn't screw up too badly his first day.

"Delegates, if I may..." His voice cracked. Damn me, cursed Arnasi silently. He cleared his voice and tried to start again. "Forgive me, if I may speak?" Seeing no objections, he continued. "In response to the Franco delegate's question, I believe that the invasion of North Korea is justified. It is the opinion of the Armed Federation that rouge states should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. We believe that once this threat is removed from Eastern Asia, that corner of the world, and indeed the world itself, will be a much safer place."

Jacob nodded to indicate he was done and sat back down. His hands were shaking.

The nation of BHR would like to join but we will not vote for security council to prevent international tension.

President Ravioli

Le Luong Minh will be OK-Vietnam UN Representative.

We will comment later on the NK issue as we are "Looking through the data" (OOC: the threads wishing there was a thread with all the links and alliances in them.)

OOC: Ok, this UNSC is all a bit confusing now – H-Town is quite active on NS, but not here it seems. So far, Wanderjar will be the only nation along with the five powers for now – I’ll check who’s active and then we can count the votes tomorrow. :) Basically, votes still count for 24 hours.

He listened to the reasons the attackers had to offer, and made one more point.

"But may I ask why you did not give any warning? Now, it would be fair to of giving warning to North Korea - your efforts have no doubt seen civilian death, and it is merely the done thing in war - but people I'm sure are more willing to forgive you for that. However, the United Nations was made to prevent war if at all possible, and if I am honest, this was possible. You should have gone through either here, or at the very least warned your fellow powers not just allies before launching the attack."

"But another real issue is simply, why now? I understand your point that there is crisis in North Korea, but there has been for many years. We should work with them to make it improve, not destroy them at there weakest moment. You wish to improve the country, yet I hear reports that you flatten there cities with tons of bombs - surely this will only create havoc for you in the future? A costly, costly repairing scheme you face. Even if you overthrow Kim and his million man army, rebuilding the country could be meant with resistance from loyal supporters - I hope you are willing to accept that responsibility."

"And finally, for the UNSC, I would like to hear what was your casus belli for this conflict - if North Korea was publicly continuing it's fairly defunct nuclear scheme, you may have had a real reason. If they were posing a proper threat to you that was higher than it had always been, acting may have been advised. But from reliable intelligence gatherings recently NK have ended there Again, I understand that the crisis would have only got worse in time, but why act now, for what real reason, and why with such brutal without-warning moves?"

Amanda Jones was nicknamed the "Cast Iron Bitch" among cadets of course none would ever call her that to her face as she gave a steely gaze resenting the implication that civilians had been explicitly targeted.

"Our Attacks; have explicitly targeted Military sites with long range artillery fire and air strikes; Sadly Kim has been cruel enough to place air defence. Radar and fixed Artillery installations interwoven with Civilian infalstructure however in these cases we have used the least amount of force required to get the job done. For example if we could use a 250lb laser guided bomb to destroy a radar site located between a school and a park knowing the 250lb bomb is enough to knock it out without damaging the surrounding buildings. As opposed to flattening the Area with an FAE; we would use the 250lb bomb everytime" Amanda said.

"Despite the apparent ferocity of the attacks into the north from Animarnian forces; we are doing everything we can to minimise civilian death though I of course cannot speak on behalf of the Dominion or the NIR. As for your question of why now and without warning; this is a two if not three part answer" she replied pausing for effect.

"The first is though North Korea is a nuclear armed state; allegedly there still remains serious question on the validity and viability of its nuclear program. If Kim doses not have a viable weapon then attacking before he gets one is the best option; if he does then giving warning would simply give him time to ready his nuclear weapons for deployment against either Animarnia or the Dominion in the south. So attacking without warning reduces the risk of a nuclear exchange dramatically" She stated and paused for effect.

"The Second is that Kim is known to use Civilians as what the army calls 'meat shields' by attacking without warning we prevent the North Korea army from mounting a quick response to the attack and prevent the death of civilians. In addition with the element of surprise most of Kim's Military hardware and soldiers will be destroyed before they ever leave their bases"; she added. which was very true as inital projections estimated 98% losses of all military systems in the north within the first hour of the war.

"Thirdly the humanitarian situation is dire; people are starving while a despot eats lobster and caviar every night and dines on Champaign; Until now Animarnia has not been in a position to do anything about this; now we are. Mr Delegate; you state that the UN was founded to prevent War; and you are of course correct. However the UN was also formed to and I quote from the charter 'reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small'. Or does the UN simply twiddle its thumbs and talk about how good human rights are and should be defended but not actually act when it comes time to defend them?" she left the question in the air.

"Or do we simply defend human rights where it is convenient - where there is oil or uranium; or natural gas or other form of natural resource? The Genocide in Dunfar comes to mind perfectly has the UN specifically Europe acted to stop the killing there or has it simply talked, puffed out its chest to feed its own ego and then moved on? the UN lets the middle east conduct some of the most barbaric practices particulally against women but are allowed to continue because they have Oil" She said leaving the question in the air for any delegate whom dared challenge it.

"The North Korea regime has been antagonising the world and hiding in our shadow for too long; now they no longer have that luxury. We concede that other regional powers should have been informed however operational security meant that the circle be kept small or the opening hours may have seen a nuclear bomb dropped on Soul instead of the current situation. To Quote Alexia DeLèan one of our greatest presidents - War however justified is never prefered; especially in persuit of democracy and freedom but sometimes it is required" She finished finally

The Kampferian delegate glared over at the delegate from Franco as he rose to his feet. He was quick tempered, but an excellent debater if the situation called for it.

"Mr. Bern, you have to be kidding me with your preposterous accusations. Frankly, I dont believe my Animarnian friends are being blunt enough with you. You create this so called "European Community" and tell us to keep our noses out of your affairs. Fair enough. But then, you dare throw accusations at us during an invasion of North Korea. Let me be frank with you. If you expect us to stay out of your affairs, then you sure as hell better stay out of ours.

Ambassador Lev Zhubov, a Colonel in the IGF, adjusted his hat and stood. He served directly under Field Marshal Konstantin Rovanovic who was known as "The Reaper" for his acts against the Socialist occupiers of the Republic before The Commandante's rise to power. He inherited the knowledge from Rovanovic, and was now a formidable military tactician. It was his job now to sit on the UNSC and justify what the Imperial Troops were about to do, and he planned on succeeding.

"Fellow UNSC members," he said with a thick Russian accent. "The Northern Imperial Republic has merely agreed to assist its allies in their time of need. Kim is obviously an egotistical sadist, allowing his citizens to starve to death in poverty while he struts around his palace wearing silk pajamas daily, and he is also not afraid of sending swathes of men to their death against his neighbor to the south, the Dominion.

"The North Korean People will be under a better rule as territory of the Dominion. Kim will be brought to his proper justice by the Allied forces and all will return to a better time when the korean Peninsula was united under a single rule. I yield my time.

Given the current polictical situation we would like to amend out vote for the Security council to the following

Europe: Waldenburg
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The Republic of Brazil.
Asia (and Oceania): The Dominion of Amazonion Beasts
Africa/Mid East: The Armed Federation of Ambrose-Douglas

Carloginias would like to amend it's American vote to the Imperium/Republic of Brazil.

Given the current polictical situation we would like to amend out vote for the Security council to the following

Europe: Waldenburg
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The Republic of Brazil.
Asia (and Oceania): The Dominion of Amazonion Beasts
Africa/Mid East: The Armed Federation of Ambrose-Douglas

OOC I'm not actually in the UN at the moment or probably ever I'm ever so terrified of a stacked Security Council.

IC

The Republic of Waldenburg wishes to apply for special observer membership and field our ambassador Emil Urzium to observe all UN debates.

Signed:
His Excellency George Patrin Chancellor of the Waldenburger Republic

Marcel Bern looked at the Russian and Chinese delegates with a somewhat fascinated admiration. They were clever diplomats - the New Pacific Order however was still seen as an alliance with imperialistic ambitions.

He turned to the Kampferian delegate, with an indifferent expression on his face and said "Delegate, I suggest you, how shall I say, follow the examples of your allies diplomacy skills. I have made no such "preposterous accusations", this is a debating forum. If you do not wish to talk about the issues of the world, I suggest you leave the UNSC. This is the UN I speak for, not just for the EC.”

“I am merely trying to find out the situations and reasons for the attacks, so we can all decide what is best not for ourselves, but the people of the Koreas, who have not asked to either be attacked or be under the thumb of an oppressive regime. The "keep your nose out of our business" idea of yours somewhat amuses me - I feel you did not know what you were signing up for when you joined the UN. The United Nations does stick its nose in peoples business, to help and assist the world. For once why not leave alliance policies behind and think about global security, and for gods sake calm down."

His expression did not scowl or change, but he did not admire the Kampfers delegate. He was arrogant, and had not assisted the opinion of the NK invasion whatsoever.

He paused, adjusted his glasses and looked at the Chinese delegate "North Korea has been for many years a threat to global security, though for many years we have tried to combat that - and only recently have we managed to do so. There nuclear program was beginning to end, and soon at least we would be safe from them - minus the Dominion and yourself, who I can understand were mostly likely high anxious. But, I agree with you, it is not merely ourselves we should worry about. We have all placed sanctions on them, but if I speak the truth that only makes the situation worse - they are now not just oppressed and in crisis, but poor also. Every country represented in this room is guilty of overlooking the NK crisis, and countless others. But, nevertheless, I, personally, do not approve of war unless it is the last option - I stand by the goals of the UN. I feel more could of been done to stop this violence, and I put forward the following resolution, one that is simply and will likely keep our minds at rest. It will not end the current attacks; though will see at least a more peaceful approach and transition of power."

"I suggest that the United Nations, independently from any country, including the Franco Confederation, sends a multi-national team of non-governmental overseers, which will remain in the new Korea for a period of three years minimum, to look over its transition and make sure that your government are not committed the same crimes the one before you did. These overseers will have no power in government, but will be allowed access to all necessary documents and will not have the truth concealed or washed over, and will report back to the UN on a monthly basis with what they have found. If bad treatment is found, the UNSC will discuss it and find a resolution to that issue. I also propose that Kim Jong-il, when captured, if captured, is tried fairly with no-corruption by a UN court of justice to pay for the crimes against his people. By doing this, no UN nation may take Kim Jong-il into political asylum."

Bern spoke once more "And finally, to all involved, what will be the fate of North Korea? I suggest it is administered itself, with troops present and governments assistance for say five or so years, in order to aid it. But what are the plans for this war torn country?"

Amanda adjusted her silver rim glasses they made her look like an older experienced school teacher and her lips compressed into a small thin smile; "My Dear Delegate; its almost as if you don't trust us?" She said though the question was more a rhetorical statement than an actual question.

"We Remain contested over North Korea's Nuclear Issue; had they made moves towards disarmament certainly however Kim has done so before; back in 1994 he agreed to halt all nuclear research then a number of years later announces he has produced a nuclear bomb"; Amanda countered. "We firmly believe that while on the surface Kim was making moves towards the NPT he was moving his program underground. Since there still remained doubts in his own echelons about the viability of his Nuclear weapon he needed time to perfect it before essentially yelling 'ha ha fooled you' to the community as a whole" she added. "Quite frankly Kim is as likely to use the bomb against his own people as he is anyone else", she said almost as an addendum.

"Speaking for ourselves alone; we can agree to these observes being deployed to our administered areas once the ground invasion has finished. However we must stipulate that these observers deployed in Animarnia Administered areas not be deployed until combat operations have ended or we cannot possibly guarantee their safety and though you may think of this as something insignificant as a matter of honour we would be responsible for there lives. We are also prepared for a potential insurgency from former proponents of Kim-Jong-Il and this may cause further complications with the deployment" she said simply.

"Though we firmly believe that North Korea doesn’t need observers what it needs is the international community to finally soldier up and give it the aid it requires. The Drosk Republic and Animarnia have already allotted over 130,000 tons of Food and Medical aid from us alone to be delivered as soon as is humanly possible from land, air and sea. Over 70 Fuelled up IL-76's, a 100 Cargo ships and nearly 4,000 Trucks sit on our border just out of enemy artillery range waiting for the green light to begin delivering aid. However this is a drop in the ocean to what the impoverished country really needs. We're not asking you to starve your own people but perhaps if each nation here could supply a little; then we can make a big difference; so we would like this added to any resolution. What is done is done and cannot be undone but North Korea can have a brighter tomorrow and for UN Members to try and atone for there mistakes" she said simply.

Diplomacy was all about give and take Amanda had given the UN the option for their observers to Animarnian Areas on condition but had taken a lot of the burden for reconstruction off Animarnia now it was time for the rub. "North Korea has nothing to offer any of us in return for this; but isn't this what the UN was created for? To help those truly in need or do we simply help those who have something to offer in return like the fabled 'oil for food' program created by this organisation" she said her demeanour wasn't aggressive of passive it simply was which made her very hard to read.

"Further more as for the fate of Kim-Jong-Il we do not oppose his extradition to a court of human rights. However we would prefer if he was tried by the people of North Korea as they are the party wronged in all this they should have first crack at justice every one else should come second" she said; with a pause. "As for the fate of North Korea we do not have any plans to see it integrated into the Excessively armed Republic and Troops will begin withdrawing as soon as possible. Leaving behind only a minimum force required to help keep order until the Civilian Police can take over and to help distribute aid among the masses" she said simply again neither aggressively nor passively. This statement was as far as Amanda knew the truth Animarnia didn't have any plans to turn the North into a satellite state or occupied territory and would be redrawing as soon as it was safe to do so.

Marcel raised his eyebrows when she implied there was a lack of trust here. He shuffled his papers around, peered ahead and spoke.

"I will not condone or support any of the programs the UN has, it is up to them what they decide to do." He paused, and peered from beneath his glasses at the Animarnian. He twisted his face into a mild smile "I'm sure that the Franco Confederation would consider giving aid to the Independent country of North Korea, but I will not pledge aid to a state that is unfairly occupied, which is why I wish to hear from all parties about what there plans are to do with Northern Korean area."

"The issue here seems to be that you view yourselves as liberators, and my suggestion is that you prove that by accepting the team of investigators, you can. This is of course, if you win the war - this man has a million troops at his disposal, and loyal followers - whatever happens, it will be costly. Thousands, hundreds of thousands will die surely, even if you do try your best to keep your invasion clean. So, I recommend you accept my proposal - blocking it will only prove to the UNSC that you do not deem yourselves as stable or free enough to truly liberate North Korea from what it suffers now. You may say you have nothing to prove to me, but by giving your speech about freeing these peoples, you have convinced me that you wish to prove that you can.”

“So, in answer to your first question, Animarnia, rhetorical or not, if you wish for us in Franco to trust you, prove you can be by allowing the UN overseers. This is all I ask, to follow that resolution - you wish to liberate North Korea into an independent free, democratic nation like your good self, then do so, and let us keep track to make sure you are. If I see that you are promoting and freeing the people, if there leader is tried in an international court, so it is fair - North Korea should not do it in my opinion, the people will let there hearts rule there heads." He paused, thinking. What he was merely trying to avoid by doing this was one of the most fundamental sins of this world that the Franco Confederation could not stand - the death penalty.

"If you can prove you will assist the government, provide it with stability as your duty as the liberator, and form a fair free government as the UN dictates all should be, then the Franco Confederation, and I'm sure most others, will applaud your moves and give you your aid, in our case, for little to nothing. Will you and your fellow attackers please say whether they agree to allow UN overseers and what there intentions are with North Korea?"

OOC: Just a quick note as I see I got a vote, the Dominion isn't part of the UN...especially regarding how Amazonia has very little regard for things such as "inhumane actions"...

Amanda smiled slightly with admiration the Franco delegate was a tough old bastard that was for sure; "Mr delegate, I speak only for Animarnia; I do not speak from Kampfers, I do not speak for Franco; the NIR or the Dominion or North Korea.. I speak for Animarnia and as such I cannot unilaterally agree to a proposal on their behalf; that said as stipulated your observers will be allowed into Animarnian Administered areas of North Korea once combat operations have ceased. This is for there own safety" she said making clear her earlier point. "If you wish to send observers to the Dominion or any other force that joins in the liberation you will have to seek permission from them separately I can't and won't make an agreement for them purely to satisfy the UNSC" Amanda added. "But speaking solely for ourselves we will let the observers do there job but only in Animarnian areas as it is not my duty to accept on behalf of anyone but ourselves"

"However in accordance we ask for as much Aid from each UN Member as can be spared be sent to the Animarnia Administered areas accordingly and in due time if the Dominion agrees to the observers there areas too. However I find it somewhat hypocritical of the Franco Delegate to speak in humanitarianism and the UN charter in one sentence and deny aid to the needy the next; and if not for our attack. We are certain the UN would have simply let Kim-Jong-Il continue to prance around in his silk pyjamas and eat lobster while his people starve simply because North Korea has no oil to offer or because they don't speak French"

"The situation broken down to its most basic level is simple - Observers for Food; if you can agree to this then so can we"

"As for the Issue of the fate of Kim; we will not oppose or support his extradition; its hardly the option we prefer but we will not stand in your way" she said simply; "this is of course assuming he can be taken alive"; she added.

The doors of Waldenburg's private box banged open, it seemed the paint was still dry and the furniture spartan. Emil Urzium's name was on a small brass plate over the microphone key, and even it seemed to have tarnished already.

"Do guest speakers get a broom closet?" He asked snappishly as he burst into the room. His aide who had arrived a day earlier was presented with a bear of a man roaring at volumes never associated with diplomacy. He smacked his huge frame down into a chair and moaned with displeasure, with the effort of being in contact with something so common.

"After we are done here contact Opplant Shipping there are a few items from the castle which could make this room a little more..suitable." He threw a folder down on what little counter space there was and studied the other delegates, or at least those he could see. He had read the dossiers on the walk down here and a few faces came with names. "Damn pillars," he muttered and rubbed his head while with the other hand reaching for the microphone.

"I apologize for the lateness of my arrival but only recently has Waldenburg applied for this box. Despite that I wish to introduce myself, Emil Urzium Special envoy from the Waldenburger Republic." He opened quickly inserting himself in a break of the conversation his voice, rich with the Albanian accent sounded so out of place and would probably drown and other comments. "I put it forward to you Excellency.." he paused looking down at the dossier and smiling hugely, "Cast iro....hur," he staged a minor coughing fit, "Amanda Jones If I am not mistaken the Illustrious ambassador of Animarnia, who currently, along with several other nations render war on the State of North Korea."

"To my mind personally it's about time they were given a thumping but perhaps you underestimate our enigmatic friends of North Korea. I believe it is common knowledge that no one denies that the People's Republic of Korea is in possession of one or more nuclear weapons, or in the least nuclear waste which may effectively be used. What would be this liberating alliance's response on the use of a nuclear weapon on it's armies, or maybe even a civilian of Anamarnian denomination? My Chancellor fears it will be reprisal of full scale nuclear attack, which is perhaps the best way, but in the end of course a inhuman response." He finished cheerfully as if the thought of the atomization of millions of people would cap off an excellent afternoon.

"Should that be the case of any in the Liberating Alliance Waldenburg wishes for it's commercial fleet in the area to begin withdrawing citizens, as Korea has already stated as much we wish permission to break the blockades I am sure are set up and escort as many people out of the country before anything we may regret happening. Lastly we wish to inquire on the intelligence of Disavowing your will to capture Kim Jong? If his people are so terribly oppressed should a bounty not be placed on his head as the sole harbinger of famine and pestilence to his population? I inquire why the "Scourge of freedom" is not even now being sought, or he really not so bad, not so bad as to warrant a sideline position who invades to liberate his populace? The floor is yours," he keyed of the microphone and leaned back, waiting for Waldenburg's chance.

Amanda smiled slightly "We don't underestimate the Enigmatic North Korea thus why the initial attacks have been so sudden, ferocious and fierce to limit Kim's ability to launch and use a nuclear weapon; the surprise attack greatly reduced this risk" she said. "However IF a nuclear device was used by North Korea; the response would depend on where it was used", she said with a simple nod.

"if used on a Civilian city inside Animarnia then the response would be a full scale nuclear attack on every North Korean Military base, Naval port and Ammunition depot in the state via SLBM or ICBM as per the Alexia Doctrine; if such a nuclear attack was against his own people then this would despite being completely inhumane would not invoke the Alexia Doctrine; As for escorting out your people of course this would be allowed however we cannot guarantee there safety currently however once a port is secured we will be happy to offer its use for you to remove your citizens from the North Korean nation"

"As for Kim; I did not say we were not seeking to capture him; of course his capture is one of the most highest priority. My statement was meant to imply though we would prefer him to be tried in North Korea by the Korean people we will not stand in the way of Franco's request to extradite him to the Court of human rights. Thus we do not support such a move but will not block it. I in no way meant to imply that Kim was not being sought for his crimes" Amanda explained simply. "Though we should remember that Kim is indeed a Coward and as a coward he is more likely to take his own life than be captured but we are seeking to take him alive", she added.

Bern again began to speak "I do not ask you to speak for your friends, Ms Delegate, you have been more than useful standing up for them and your mission here today, I ask them, or at least the ones present and close to the Dominion to inform me what they think his plans are. We can always do this out of the UN, though it is more difficult. If you do not have this information, a quite strange thing for a nation that has plotted the overthrow of this dictator, we will ask the Dominion ourselves. As for Kim, simply what use is he dead. His people, the world, want justice, so please do as you can to make sure they get it.”

Marcel paused and read his notes. He had been given instructions, and was determined to get what his Chief Minister Gaudet had asked of him, at least partially with the more liberal Animarnian co-operation. He thought at this event it would not be the Animarnia who he would clash with, with Kampfers and the Imperial Empire here he thought they would fiercely attack him, not a country who effectively was his "semi-ally" due to there closeness in trade and economic assistance via the EC Associate Members scheme.

She also seemed to have found some secret insight, probably unintentionally, into the Franco foreign policy. When a country is invaded, the first question that will usually be asked by the Foreign Minister, somewhat jokingly, will be "Did we once conquer them? Do they speak French?" He did not approve of his system, but he dealt with it, and tried to disguise it will the Franco's "liberty and freedom" views.

"As I have stated now for the third time, my suggestion of observers for food is what I desire. You seem to make out that the Confederation is in the wrong, but we are not being selfish – we are delaying aid because we wish to make sure that everything is done in accordance to how it should be, your part, or all of, North Korea is liberated. And please, Ms. Delegate, stop with the emotional blackmail, your country is no worse and cutthroat than we have all been in the past, but this is the present we are looking at here. We will agree to aid you if you can prove to us you are liberators, who will not mistreat the people and who will not occupy and divide the country. We are not refusing to give aid currently because it's not economically viable, or because our Chief Minister is cold hearted, it is simply because we don't want to give aid to an unfairly occupied and ruled country."

"So yes, if you can agree to our resolution, and after a few months the observer team has found that an Independent North Korea is slowly rebuilding with assistance from you into a democratic free nation, the Franco Confederation will be begin supplying some aid and will pressure its European allies to do the same. I yield the floor"

"You fail to understand the finer points of my, or more accurately Opplant Group's proposal Ms. Jones. They suggest to evacuate All innocent civilians, be they Waldenburger, Dominion, Franco or North Korean. Should there be a nuclear attack, which we suspect from Kim Jong, and the retaliation you imply would occur the civilian casualties would be outrageous and that is why we wish for our bulk freighters in the area be allowed to spirit as many of them out of the country before the bombs fall, or simply to escape the general horrors of war."

"Opplant Group unfortunately holds sway over the Chancellor and therefore me, its interests are our own, what they will do with these civilians is beyond me, should they be relocated to a neutral country or into the liberating alliance's homeland I don't know. But Opplant could carrying many thousands out and they wish to do so. As for the concern of security I believe Jong Ill has already promised that neutral ships may remove his non martial civilians from the country to safety, but besides that Opplant Group is a very large company, this will not be the first time it has had to deal with threats. It is common practice to assign a platoon from one of Opplant's Private regiments to it's ships, and they are usually at least partially armed. Do not fear on the score of security."

As for our avidly sought dictator of North Korea, I apologize about my assertions, but must inquire why a bounty has not been placed? He indeed should be tried in the land he has reigned as tyrant over, but first he must be caught. There is a great deal a man will do when he is facing death on one hand and a huge cash reward and life on another. I have learned through experience that most sieges are broken with traitors, and perhaps that is what the liberating alliance needs. I would not dream of imposing policy on your countries but I strongly urge that some reward be offered for his capture."

"Yes Mr Delegate and the fundamental details we both agree on however the doors and windows need changing" Amanda nodded; "'a few months' is extremely vague and could imply or infer never. North Korea needs aid now; regardless of political ideology or posturing by diplomats thousands of miles away. This is not emotional black mail this is not implying your Chief Minister is cold hearted what I am saying is a simple fact" she said simply her voice raising ever so slightly on the last sentence.

"As for your assertion that we have been just as bad; we won't deny this but as an emerging super power with that power come responsibility to use that power wisely and so does the EC and the NPO. As such we are doing something about the crisis in North Korea today; now; while the UN is simply still talking about it and will probably be 18 months from now. The UN Talks well but doesn’t ACT" Amanda fired up; it was true give someone a way out on there commitments and they would take it. To get Europe to donate the aid the agreement needed to be ironclad in a way that they could not opt out - Europe had proved this time and time again with the G8 meetings.

"A Compromise" Amanda offered; Diplomacy was also about appearing to give in without giving in and making your opponent look bad turning down a compromise offered in good spirit would certainly make Europe; Franco in particular look bad.

"You send half the aid immediately along with your observers then after one Month and you are satisfied with the situation in North Korea the rest of the aid keeps coming including food, medical aid, re-construction equipment etc, etc" she offered. In actuality it was a pretty good compromise as both Delegates got what they wanted. She understood the Franco's need for certain guarantees and would probably argue the same position if she was in his shoes. However she was not in his shoes; she was in hers and the North Koreans needed that aid regardless of political infighting and they needed it as soon, as was humanly possible.

She turned her eye on the Special Envoy. "We can agree in principle to this evacuation however we would want certain guarantees by the Opplant Group the first of which is that all evacuees are treated humanly and the second they will not become slaves. Animarnia will not tolerate slavery and won't have them freed on one hand to be handed over as slaves with the next. Thirdly they will not become research subjects or be experimented on, neither will they be killed for there organs to be harvested and finally they will not be grindered down into burger meat or any other foodstuff" she said in her almost monotonic voice.

"If you can give us those guarantees that the evacuees will be treated humanely including women and children then we can agree to this evacuation however if possible we would like to make an amendment. - Once we have secured a port and since your sending out empty cargo ships perhaps they could come to North Korea filled with Food and medical Aid as you can spare and leave with evacuees?" Amanda asked knowing the Envoy couldn't agree without consulting his government.

"As for your question about the bounty; I believe our President is putting a $40 million dollar bounty on his head as we speak and I assure the UNSC that for our part we will do everything we can to capture Kim Alive. Though as we said we'd prefer Kim to be tried by his own people after all if they are to have there own free state as Franco and Animarnia intends. Then surely we should also trust there rule of law to deal with Kim?" she said with a simple nod and looking at her watch as the press conference was likely going on right now as she had been informed it would.

Ms. Jones I protest! We are not barbarians, slavery was the last thing on Lady Opplant's mind, and as for grinding people up to even propose we should do such a thing is simply outrageous. I do not know what this is about but Waldenburg does not approve of such actions nor to hear them spoken." Emil keyed of the microphone for a moment a bit down a laugh, there had been years of speculation as to how the population of Animarnia was managed, perhaps it was the first thing on her mind.

"Despite our resentment of being told that, we agree to this, and should it occur Waldenburg will arrest the Opplant Group," again he bit down a laugh, arrest the Opplant's, nearly 1% of the GDP and a Grand Admiral. "We thank the alliance for their permission and I shall wire Lady Opplant with the new immediately. As for food and medical aide, I supremely doubt Lady Opplant will be willing to hand over any of her own. I may not be making myself clear. Lady Opplant is not a member of the Government nor is her title anything more then an honorific, Opplant Group is a Private company and doubt it will hand over anything. It is quite another story should the Dominion, or Animarnia give it, and allow Opplant to transport it, then I am sure she will but for the moment, I can rule out any support other then that already being provided.

"I shall send a messaging asking Lady Opplant on the matter of assistance however again I would not expect much. We are of course open to carry any assistance the Alliance wishes to put through, as we seem the only non-combatant in the area."

"Oh dear god..." Marcel whispered quietly to himself. The suggestion of observers was just a passing one, which he expected not to cause much trouble, but now the two powers were debating angrily over it. The Franco delegate was growing tired of his debate and his once admiration for his diplomatic counterpart was starting to turn into annoyance.

"You have not won the war yet, so for one we will not send aid immediately as it is far too risky - until you have full control over the country sending aid is slightly foolish, as it could be looted or lost. However, we will give some aid in exchange for our citizens, perhap basic supplies of food and water and tools to combat disease. More serious aid will be given, such as large amounts of food and water, and high-tech medical equipment and doctors will be sent once we have gathered what we wish to gather."

"It is the world’s responsibility to help nations around the world, but not to help every warmonger who invades other countries, for whatever reason. You surely must understand my position - why should I, or Europe, give aid without the reassurance that just two months of inspections once the war is over can give us. That is why I ask what you and the Dominions plans are, and for these observers - to make sure we know where our aid is going, and that it is going to liberators, not countries with imperialistic ambitions. This does not so much refer to you, but the NPO have made no secret of the fact they desire lands. The Chief Minister has made it clear - he will assist you in many ways, in the total rebuilding - the Franco Confederation will probably become one of the largest investors in Korea, if it is an independent, free and democratic nation again."

"We have simply asked for three things delegate, all of it is reassurance that leads to great prosperity. Once order is restored in North Korea, we will send our observers to check your rule for two to three months. We also wish for Kim to be tried in an international court of justice. Furthermore, we desire to know some of the plans for its future - we don't need to hear how you plan to withdraw, just whether or not your allies will, and that can be done independently though. In return, we will give North Korea the basic supplies it needs, invest in the country, possibly, although business laws in France go against it, open up branches of French corporations there and pay fair wages in order to aid its economic development."

"So, we have compromised on your compromise, and have pledged partial aid with much more aid in the future if we get our reassurance. Animarnia, I respect your position, and I feel that the less liberal and diplomatic nations of NPO will try to take NK as there own. If that happens, the Franco Confederation will give little to another unfairly occupied state, we will see it as the same as the former North Korea. I yield the floor and leave the decision up to you Animarnia."

Amanda was walking a fine line and she knew it; sadly she wasn't included in any plans the NPO might have for North Korea and this put her in a precarious position. The Franco Delegate kept tying to push Animarnia into speaking for the NPO which she could and wouldn't do things were starting to become exasperating with neither side willing to budge.

"Lots of Food and water plus the basic medical aid in the first run; everything else can be debated after your observers have done there job" Amanda said; "I understand your position Mr Delegate and if I was in your shoes I would likely be arguing the same position. With that said that’s what these people need most; Food and water or there may not be much of a Korean population left to save - regardless of political infighting or ideology. Everything else we agree on with the Franco Delegation" it was a simple truth every month wasted was a month people were starving. - "So we have an agreement then?" she asked

"As for the motives of the NPO; that question would best be directed at Kampfers" she said. "Though what if they chose to become part of say the Dominion for example or ourselves even though we have no plans for such a move; should we all not respect there free choice"

Turning her attention to the Special Envoy with a small smile; "I apologise for the insinuation quite sincerely " she began; "but as you admit; your nation is controlled primarily by private investors and saying 'you do not know where these people will end up' makes us question such things. But of course with your guarantees you can begin transporting out citizens immediately to neutral territory however be warned combat operations are still in effect" she said with a nod.

An Aide entered he was a young man barely 23 he was dressed in a smart suit similar to Amanda's he handed her a A4 sized off yellow file folder and left; Amanda opened it and adjusted her glasses as she read. "Well it seems gentleman you may get your observers sooner than you think; Kims forces are in a mass retreat towards the capital" Amanda informed

Emil had kept his head piece in and had heard the conversation as he quickly faxed a message to Opplant who was waiting eagerly by her computer center.

"Be Careful Emil, but yes we will ship anything within reason." Her message went on for sometime and he smiled quite nastily many times through her response. He entered his box a minute later obscuring Jones' last comment.

"Perhaps our government is run by investors but I insure you the comment of their destination was more ignorance then menace.

On Behalf of Opplant Shipping, and the Waldenburger Republic we will carry your goods into North Korea, and remove as many of it's peoples as possible. However there are many factors we must look into, mainly and most importantly the location that these prisoners are going to be moved to. The closer neighboring country not currently at war with North Korea, is Vietnam or the Republic of China. To that extent we are a little flummoxed, our embassies and warehouses would fill up quickly and would not be suitable to the torrent of human life. And even then there are fewer facilities to house them for an extended period of time. Perhaps they must be extricated to hostile location despite the risk, would Animarnia open up a city away from the fighting for the refugees? I have equal assurance that should it come to that Animarnia will not take advantage of their situation?" Emil did not enjoy the fact he had to be rescuing foreigners, although this was more then made up by how many he would make bone splittingly uncomfortable.

"I would also like to pressed the Franco Federation at this time to open Singapore to these refugees should a city further up the coast not be available. Would that not fit with the spirit of the UN and it's charter? At any rate we must act quickly for who knows what afoot our freighters shall begin loading the supplies and depart as soon as possible."

OOC Did we have a Republic of China in this one? I thought we did but can't find it on the opening list.

Emil had kept his head piece in and had heard the conversation as he quickly faxed a message to Opplant who was waiting eagerly by her computer center.

"Be Careful Emil, but yes we will ship anything within reason." Her message went on for sometime and he smiled quite nastily many times through her response. He entered his box a minute later obscuring Jones' last comment.

"Perhaps our government is run by investors but I insure you the comment of their destination was more ignorance then menace.

On Behalf of Opplant Shipping, and the Waldenburger Republic we will carry your goods into North Korea, and remove as many of it's peoples as possible. However there are many factors we must look into, mainly and most importantly the location that these prisoners are going to be moved to. The closer neighboring country not currently at war with North Korea, is Vietnam or the Republic of China. To that extent we are a little flummoxed, our embassies and warehouses would fill up quickly and would not be suitable to the torrent of human life. And even then there are fewer facilities to house them for an extended period of time. Perhaps they must be extricated to hostile location despite the risk, would Animarnia open up a city away from the fighting for the refugees? I have equal assurance that should it come to that Animarnia will not take advantage of their situation?" Emil did not enjoy the fact he had to be rescuing foreigners, although this was more then made up by how many he would make bone splittingly uncomfortable.

"I would also like to pressed the Franco Federation at this time to open Singapore to these refugees should a city further up the coast not be available. Would that not fit with the spirit of the UN and it's charter? At any rate we must act quickly for who knows what afoot our freighters shall begin loading the supplies and depart as soon as possible."

OOC Did we have a Republic of China in this one? I thought we did but can't find it on the opening list.

OOC: Tawiwan is free; but there will soon be a campign of Unifaction *cough*; I'll get around to a post but assume Amanda has agreed to start up Refugee Camps and such until I get something decent down.

Europe: Abstain
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The Allied States of Vanek Drury Brieres
Asia (and Oceania): Abstain
Africa: Abstain

OOC: Sorry for the late vote, just got back from vacation today so I kind of missed this first at first.

IC:

The Southeast Asia Republic votes for the following members to be added to the Security Council:

Europe: The New Prussian Empire of Wanderjar
The Americas (North, Central, South and Caribbean): The People's Republic of H-Town Tejas
Asia (and Oceania): Southeast Asian Republic
Africa: The Grand Duchy of Lachenburg