NationStates Jolt Archive


Tatom Communist War Peace Talks

Federational States
21-07-2007, 10:50
The combined communist command declares these peace talks in session. Lets put an end to this conflict and come up with a satisfactory settlement for all sides.

General. Che Zekov
CFS Commander
Soviet leaders
21-07-2007, 11:53
Soviet leaders is here to come to the table and get this war ended.
Our lead rep in the Department of Diplomacy will be there.
Federational States
21-07-2007, 12:15
We welcome the soviet leaders to these talks.
Southern Odinia
21-07-2007, 16:24
I Dr. Mockelfish Byrillabyrd, P.F.L. of the Armed Republic of Southern Odinia, have come on request of the people of my nation, to help with the representation of the the people of Tatom and the rebels, who have the popular support of the people. I come with distinction that an agreement that pleases both sides is second to an agreement that pleases the interests of the majority of Tatom. That being said it is my belief that the majority of the people of Tatom are in favor of change in the form of democracy, and I shall debate to that end.

Dr. Mockelfish Byrillabyrd
P.F.L. of the Armed Republic of Southern Odinia
Route1
21-07-2007, 16:32
Ok, we will come.
Googlewoop
21-07-2007, 16:39
All nations WILL respect the ceasefire and peace talks. No nations shall instigate military aggressions which compromise these processes lest Googlewoop and her allies promptly step on them.
Central Prestonia
21-07-2007, 17:32
As a former combatant of the Tatom Civil War, we would like to send a delegate.
Damirez
21-07-2007, 18:16
From: Prince Emilian Davout.
To: Participants to the peace conference.
Subject: Peace talk.

First of all I would like to thank the nation of Googlewoop for their stern position on any nation that will intervene with the peace talks. You have our thanks and our support.

Second, I hope there are no objection to the deployment of a small force on the island by my nation to insure the security of these peace talks. As a neutral country so far in this conflict we feel that our soldiers are a good choice for this task.

Third I will arrive shortly on the island and if the parties involved agree I'll play the role of mediator between the two sides. This will insure the fairness of the peace treaty that is to be signed since our only interest is for the conflict to be ended as fast as possible.

Finally we would like to remember that it is of the utmost importance to bring the two Tatom factions on the table before any talks can take place. We can not take decisions without involving the ones affected the most by them.

Best regards,
Prince Emilian Davout, Foreign Minister of The Principality of Damirez.
Lach-Land
22-07-2007, 02:17
((OOC:are you threating me googlewoop?))

a delegate walks in surrounded by red guards
"may we propose 1 party democracy? the ruling party is still communist but provinces may elect their representives that each have an equal voice in the party this ensures the Govertments wishes of staying in command while giving the people a voice and a democracy"
Southern Odinia
22-07-2007, 18:01
((OOC:are you threating me googlewoop?))

a delegate walks in surrounded by red guards
"may we propose 1 party democracy? the ruling party is still communist but provinces may elect their representives that each have an equal voice in the party this ensures the Govertments wishes of staying in command while giving the people a voice and a democracy"

Thats a terrible idea! The people demand total democracy, to put it ways you would understand the proletariat demands democracy! Give the people what they want.
Damirez
22-07-2007, 19:40
"We ask the representative of Southern Odinia to calm down, we will obtain nothing if we immediately jump at each others throat," prince Davout having finally arrived at the conference raised his voice, "We would also like to request that the red guards accompanying the representative of Lach-Land be removed from the premises or disarmed. If you are worried about your safety, we assure you that our recently arrived 4th Legion will insure the safety of all representatives at these talks."

As the representative finished these words he finally seated, took a few documents from his briefcase and motioned towards one of his assistants, "Refreshments anyone?" he asked "If any of you needs something feel free to ask one of my assistants."

Watching the various representatives he started talking again, "I think we all share a common goal here: Peace. I believe we all know that nothing good will come out this war if it continues. Now let us hear the opinions of every party involved in the conflict before starting the deliberations. Please refrain from interfering until it is your turn to talk," he waved at a representative from the table.
Federational States
22-07-2007, 19:41
Commonwealth of Federational States delegate Paula Carlsson speaks:

''We welcome the delegate from Central Prestonia to these talks. We agree with the honourable delegate of Googlewop that the ceasefire must stay in tact and therefore no agressive actions must take place during this period an untill a settlement can be reached. We do however ask Googlewop not to make threats of force as this is counterproductive and any action to comroomise these talks in the same vein will result in a response of force if nessesary. We concur with Southern Odnia that democracy must be established in some form but a one party system as proposed by certain delegates would not be a viable alternative as this is the reason for the war in the first place, only one party choice. And as Damierez is militarily neuaral we belive that it is right for them to act as mediator.

In conclusion the only thing we wish to say at this stage is that we all should want to aviod the country being split in two as this would result in future problems and familes being split apart, so let us move forward and make progress.''
Central Prestonia
22-07-2007, 20:07
I propose that Tatom run general elections as a democracy, with the Communist party being allowed to run as any other. That way, the choice of the people will be clear. However, there does exist the possibility of the elections being rigged or tampered with, so we need to have some authority on the ground to make sure this does not happen. I believe that this is the fairest solution for all involved parties, as the Communists get a chance to run, but the people get the chance to decide what they want.
Southern Odinia
22-07-2007, 20:08
"We ask the representative of Southern Odinia to calm down, we will obtain nothing if we immediately jump at each others throat," prince Davout having finally arrived at the conference raised his voice, "We would also like to request that the red guards accompanying the representative of Lach-Land be removed from the premises or disarmed. If you are worried about your safety, we assure you that our recently arrived 4th Legion will insure the safety of all representatives at these talks."

As the representative finished these words he finally seated, took a few documents from his briefcase and motioned towards one of his assistants, "Refreshments anyone?" he asked "If any of you needs something feel free to ask one of my assistants."

Watching the various representatives he started talking again, "I think we all share a common goal here: Peace. I believe we all know that nothing good will come out this war if it continues. Now let us hear the opinions of every party involved in the conflict before starting the deliberations. Please refrain from interfering until it is your turn to talk," he waved at a representative from the table.

I'm sorry I was out of line, but I found it to be absurd that the delegate from lach-Land was proposing what turns out to be almost no compromise for the government and all compromise for the people.
Southern Odinia
22-07-2007, 20:09
I propose that Tatom run general elections as a democracy, with the Communist party being allowed to run as any other. That way, the choice of the people will be clear. However, there does exist the possibility of the elections being rigged or tampered with, so we need to have some authority on the ground to make sure this does not happen. I believe that this is the fairest solution for all involved parties, as the Communists get a chance to run, but the people get the chance to decide what they want.

Let it be noted that the communists are meant to run again during the next election as would any other party.
Damirez
22-07-2007, 20:23
"Any other proposals? It is important that all participants express their stances at the beginning of the conference since it will greatly help the debates afterwards."
Southern Odinia
22-07-2007, 21:12
"Any other proposals? It is important that all participants express their stances at the beginning of the conference since it will greatly help the debates afterwards."

Well I agree with Central Prestonia, With the added Idea that since the communist party of Tatom still has control over the government that to prevent vote rigging they not be allowed to run in the first 2 election cycles, which I suggest are spaced 6 years apart.
Soviet leaders
22-07-2007, 22:42
Soviet leaders rep stands up " My name is Alex Closkov. Our nation agrees with the Idea of having elections we have some elections in our nation for reps in the council of the people and if nothing else there could be establsihed a council of some form to check the goverment if it is to stay communist and yes the country should have multiple parties for this section of goverment and no one from the current leading party is allowed to be in the council."

He sits down and takes a sip of water.
Federational States
22-07-2007, 23:06
Paula Carlsson CFS Represeentative:

"The elections being spaced out are a good idea but maybe six years in too long. It would also be a good idea for a multinational garrison force to remain, under the command of the new tatom government, whoever it is. If all parties to these talks can cooperate with the creation of such a force then it will set a good example for both parties to resolve this conflict. Let us start by all parties here declaring the war over and comitting not to fight each other any more if taht is posssible."
Soviet leaders
23-07-2007, 05:05
"We are no longer taking any hostile actions towards any force right now involved in this conflict and Declare this war over. We how ever are not for the creation of a permanent force in the nation of Tatom and will not be apart of this force for we believe that it would later cause more wars when they want us out." Alex said
Lach-Land
23-07-2007, 06:38
Originally Posted by Lach-Land
((OOC:are you threating me googlewoop?))

a delegate walks in surrounded by red guards
"may we propose 1 party democracy? the ruling party is still communist but provinces may elect their representives that each have an equal voice in the party this ensures the Govertments wishes of staying in command while giving the people a voice and a democracy"

Thats a terrible idea! The people demand total democracy, to put it ways you would understand the proletariat demands democracy! Give the people what they want.

*dismisses red guards*
it is democracy it just isn't federal republicanism like your western states have it is still democracy and is still fair

doesn't tatom have anything to say your acting like you own the country?
Damirez
23-07-2007, 10:16
doesn't tatom have anything to say your acting like you own the country?

"This is a very good point made by the representative of Lach-Land. I would like to remind you that it falls to each sides supporters to bring the Tatom factions to the table and to convince them to accept the terms of the treaty. I also reserve the right to question the various solutions proposed by the delegates.

Now, in order to insure that the treaty will be enforced I would like for the delegates to sign a treaty before we go any further." Prince Davout's assistants distribute documents to the other delegates. Two main points of the treaty.

1. Compliance with the terms the peace treaty.
2. Recognition & Guarantee of the independence of Tatom.
Federational States
23-07-2007, 20:06
CFS Rep. Paular Carlsson:

"CFS is chosing to lead by eamaple and we also declare this war over as far as we are concerned. We must now thrash out the peace. All CFS forces shall be withdrawn with only a force of 5,000 to reamin as assiatnce to the civil power, this force shall be imediately withdrawn once the people of Taom ask and once the peace settlment is raeched. We concur with other honhourable delegates that the Red Guards should be removed as this is disregsarding the point of thsse talks."
Federational States
23-07-2007, 20:08
Paula Carlsson CFS Rep.

"Furthur to the above we guarantee we are fully behinf inpependance for Taom. No foreign rule is acceptable."
Southern Odinia
23-07-2007, 20:41
*dismisses red guards*
it is democracy it just isn't federal republicanism like your western states have it is still democracy and is still fair

doesn't tatom have anything to say your acting like you own the country?

Southern Odinia first off is a democratic socialist nation (no federal republicanism here), secondly it is clear from the original rebellion that the people are tired of communist rule. As a human being and a leader of a socialist nation I care about the right of the people to chose more then the proliferation/ continuation of socialism in Tatom.
Southern Odinia
23-07-2007, 20:43
"This is a very good point made by the representative of Lach-Land. I would like to remind you that it falls to each sides supporters to bring the Tatom factions to the table and to convince them to accept the terms of the treaty. I also reserve the right to question the various solutions proposed by the delegates.

Now, in order to insure that the treaty will be enforced I would like for the delegates to sign a treaty before we go any further." Prince Davout's assistants distribute documents to the other delegates. Two main points of the treaty.

1. Compliance with the terms the peace treaty.
2. Recognition & Guarantee of the independence of Tatom.


The nation of Southern Odinia supports this treaty treaty.
Soviet leaders
24-07-2007, 07:03
"We agree with the treaty as well but we do need the rebels and the Government to be in these talks
Lach-Land
24-07-2007, 07:12
i proposed this democratic system as a compromize for both factions
the withdrawal from a communist system is volitile with the nuetrality being abolited and the polatrait struggling to start enterprises with nothing Russia alone suffered a lose of 50% of its economy after the Soviet state imploded not to mention alot of citizens turning to crime and the forming of the Russian Mafia which is quickly making itself one of the most notorious gangs globally. do you want this to happen to the nation of Tatom?

i think the revolution is more of a sign to show the people are sick of oppression than Communism and thus i pose this to offer a fair compromise to both sides the revolutionaries and the loyalists.i do not call for the disarment of the people untill everyone is happy aswell.
btw, in true Democratic Socialism anyone can run for govertment so nothing is lost.

"This is a very good point made by the representative of Lach-Land. I would like to remind you that it falls to each sides supporters to bring the Tatom factions to the table and to convince them to accept the terms of the treaty. I also reserve the right to question the various solutions proposed by the delegates.

Now, in order to insure that the treaty will be enforced I would like for the delegates to sign a treaty before we go any further." Prince Davout's assistants distribute documents to the other delegates. Two main points of the treaty.

1. Compliance with the terms the peace treaty.
2. Recognition & Guarantee of the independence of Tatom.
a ceasefire is all thats nessacary for the mean time as negotiations are far from over and intra-national tentions still high i also ask that a medium lach-land garrision be allowed to remain in the country momentarily to rebuild the damages down to the land.
Damirez
24-07-2007, 07:23
a ceasefire is all thats nessacary for the mean time as negotiations are far from over and intra-national tentions still high i also ask that a medium lach-land garrision be allowed to remain in the country momentarily to rebuild the damages down to the land.

"We would like to point out to the Lach Land representative that the two conditions listed above are essential to the well going of the peace conference. They offer guarantees that once this peace conference is finished the nations here will uphold the peace treaty, whatever it may hold."
Lach-Land
24-07-2007, 07:30
"'Complience of the terms of the peace treaty' what peace treaty? i thought we were discussing the forming of the treaty? oh well the rebuilding force was a kind suggestion to Tatom but is not nessacary to Lach-land
Damirez
24-07-2007, 07:46
"'Complience of the terms of the peace treaty' what peace treaty? i thought we were discussing the forming of the treaty? oh well the rebuilding force was a kind suggestion to Tatom but is not nessacary to Lach-land

"As of now there is no peace treaty, however to insure that once such a treaty is signed it will be respected, we wish for all participants to sign those two clauses. They're the building bricks from which we start."
Lach-Land
24-07-2007, 07:50
i request that in logic we draft a treaty before any signings
what if you sign that you will comply to the treaty and then i come along with;

=============================================
THE TREATY

All rebel supporters must leave the country; commies shall stay
All rebels will be put to death immediatly

you have all already signed it so bye guys

============================================

the signing of a treaty is the beggining of the end and not to be blind signed
Damirez
24-07-2007, 08:12
"Unless the representative of Lach-Land thinks otherwise, I don't believe there is any mention in those clauses that any of the participants has the right to decide on a peace treaty all by themselves.

Furthermore the idea of these peace talks is for the participants to agree on a final form of the treaty, not to accept conditions imposed to them. The basic idea of those clauses is simple:

1. Tatom is to be viewed as an independent country.
2. Once signed, all parties must comply with the peace treaty.

Note that there is no mention of you nation being forced to sign the peace treaty and as such the peace treaty will not be considered valid till all signatures are on it. But once you have actually signed you are bound to follow the clauses we have introduced."
Federational States
24-07-2007, 10:51
CFS Rep Paula Carlsson:

"The attitude of lach-land is counter productive to these proceedings. CFS agrees with the other delegates that a cease fire should be enforced immediately and signed by all parties, then we can proceed with getting a peace settlement. Please note lach-land, that CFS shall not tolerate any moves to expel the "rebel factions" as you call them."
Southern Odinia
25-07-2007, 02:47
i request that in logic we draft a treaty before any signings
what if you sign that you will comply to the treaty and then i come along with;

=============================================
THE TREATY

All rebel supporters must leave the country; commies shall stay
All rebels will be put to death immediatly

you have all already signed it so bye guys

============================================

the signing of a treaty is the beggining of the end and not to be blind signed

That we will all uphold the treaty that we VOTE on.....
The Yellow Sea Islands
25-07-2007, 03:27
(I'm back!) The Yellow Sea Islands is of course infavor of setting up a democratic government and certainly not in favor of a thrown together peace treaty from the dark ages.
Leocardia
25-07-2007, 04:46
Leocardia is interested in the Communist Peace talks.
Lach-Land
25-07-2007, 07:20
1. Tatom is to be viewed as an independent country.
2. Once signed, all parties must comply with the peace treaty

i agree the notion that all nations must uphold the treaty that they agree on.

Please note lach-land, that CFS shall not tolerate any moves to expel the "rebel factions" as you call them."

it was an example i do not wish that
Damirez
25-07-2007, 17:23
i agree the notion that all nations must uphold the treaty that they agree on.

"Then we should understand that the delegate from Lach-Land does not recognize the other clause of the pre treaty agreement?" Prince Davout asked in a deceptively calm voice, while watching intently at the Lach-Land representative.
Calizorinstan
25-07-2007, 17:37
The Red Star rep, Lone Star spoke up "In my opinion, we should make the final government a democracy, but not like one, it would be controlled by us, but it would appear to be a democracy to other people, and it'll act like one too.."
Muradivia
25-07-2007, 18:00
Commrades,
i have sent troops for tatom against those damn nazi's, i have yet to find any response, i say we should hit them while they are not aware of it, they shouldnt think of us as weak people, the communists are the rightful rulers of this world, let us serve equality and liberty against the fascist rule.

Sincerely,
Murad
P.S.: My S.S. has already been deployed in most fascist domains, i have my best men on the field extracting intel from their very bases.
The Yellow Sea Islands
25-07-2007, 18:11
The Red Star rep, Lone Star spoke up "In my opinion, we should make the final government a democracy, but not like one, it would be controlled by us, but it would appear to be a democracy to other people, and it'll act like one too.."

You are of course joking.
Calizorinstan
25-07-2007, 18:13
Lone Star said "Yes, however, I believe it is possible to do something else I had in mind..., I believe that if we explained the virtues of the New Socialism, they'd elect a New Socialist President. Which would mean, they'd be a democracy.."
Damirez
25-07-2007, 18:16
P.S.: My S.S. has already been deployed in most fascist domains, i have my best men on the field extracting intel from their very bases.

OOC: And you RPed that... where?

IC:

"While we as moderators welcome all suggestions from the participants at these talks, we would like to remember mister Lone Star that Tatom is an independent country, albeit one fractured in two parts by the civil war. We have little to gain if a peace treaty only serves to spark a new civil war."

Turning around to the Muradivia representative, Davout started talking again:
"What does your nation have to gain by inciting conflict in Tatom? We advise that you reconsider your actions since they might put your nation at odds with the nations that desire a peace treaty. It would be ill advised for your nation to do such a thing."
Southern Odinia
25-07-2007, 19:25
The Red Star rep, Lone Star spoke up "In my opinion, we should make the final government a democracy, but not like one, it would be controlled by us, but it would appear to be a democracy to other people, and it'll act like one too.."

I salute your honesty....but...no....
Federational States
25-07-2007, 19:30
Paula Carlsson for the CFS:

"We apologise lach-land if we misunderstood what you said. We welcome leocradia to theses talks. We cannot enforce any type of government on Tatom, it is for the people to decide. Muridivia must not initiate any agressive acts, these acts are over by order of the cease fire. CFS asks all parties to conform they are signatories of the ceasefire. We must also ser up some kind of equitabl eprovisonal authority from the Tatom peopel so that we can empower a un
Damirez
25-07-2007, 20:03
. We must also ser up some kind of equitabl eprovisonal authority from the Tatom peopel so that we can empower a un

"An observation on that. Who will be responsible for the provisional authority? It sounds well in concept, but we fear that it's hard to implement the concept in reality for various reasons.

1. The fact that until now both communists and democrats have kept silent.
2. I highly doubt either side would accept that the provisional authority contain personnel from the supporters of the opposite faction.
3. It does sound like an attack to the independence of Tatom, remember this is an independent country, not an occupied one. Admittedly this could be avoided with the agreement of the Tatom people, but that is unlikely in the present context.
4. There are serious doubts about the ability of the countries present here to cooperate. Let us not forget that until recently most of you were combatants/supporters on one side or the other.

I apologize if I sound a little harsh, but these are real issues that we will have to deal with."
Lach-Land
26-07-2007, 08:33
"Then we should understand that the delegate from Lach-Land does not recognize the other clause of the pre treaty agreement?" Prince Davout asked in a deceptively calm voice, while watching intently at the Lach-Land representative.

"When the hell did i even suggest that? Tatom is independent i would of proposed that had it not been already and i have no intention of making final arrangements untill both sides of Tatom has spoken and i did misinterparate your original wording which confused me. i apoligize for any delay and distress caused by this"
Federational States
26-07-2007, 08:45
1. The fact that until now both communists and democrats have kept silent.
2. I highly doubt either side would accept that the provisional authority contain personnel from the supporters of the opposite faction.
3. It does sound like an attack to the independence of Tatom, remember this is an independent country, not an occupied one. Admittedly this could be avoided with the agreement of the Tatom people, but that is unlikely in the present context.
4. There are serious doubts about the ability of the countries present here to cooperate. Let us not forget that until recently most of you were combatants/supporters on one side or the other.


"It is disturbing that the people of Tatom are keeping quiet on this but if we take the matter in hand ans establish some political orde then they may follow. Both sides are copoerating her at the moment so I do not see any problems as far as that is concerned and oly by securing some kind of civil authority can the indepdendce of Tatom be secured. I propose a disarmerment amnesty of all comminist and rebel groups in tatom and the decomissinging of their weapons that way the ceasefire will stand."

Paula Carlsson for the CFS
Damirez
26-07-2007, 09:29
"When the hell did i even suggest that? Tatom is independent i would of proposed that had it not been already and i have no intention of making final arrangements untill both sides of Tatom has spoken and i did misinterparate your original wording which confused me. i apoligize for any delay and distress caused by this"

"It is good to know that this was caused by a misunderstanding. It was the Lach Land representative lack of reply to the clause regarding Tatom's independence that worried us, but it seems everything is well in that regard."

"It is disturbing that the people of Tatom are keeping quiet on this but if we take the matter in hand ans establish some political orde then they may follow. Both sides are copoerating her at the moment so I do not see any problems as far as that is concerned and oly by securing some kind of civil authority can the indepdendce of Tatom be secured. I propose a disarmerment amnesty of all comminist and rebel groups in tatom and the decomissinging of their weapons that way the ceasefire will stand."

"Indeed, it is disturbing that the people of Tatom are keeping quiet, without their participation there is only so much that we can do. The suggestion about taking matters in hand is however worrying, as some might interpret it is as an attack on Tatom sovereignty.

I don't think I need to remind you that Tatom is not a defeated country in a war, and as such all proposals made here can be acted upon only with their agreement. I sincerely doubt that the communist and democratic faction would stand idle if a foreign country starts disarming them without their agreement.

And who will maintain Tatom's security if the two factions agree upon disarming? It would imply that a task force belonging to other nations would have to be involved. Let's say that the costs would not be a problem for the various states at this table, but given their involvement in the war, what would make this different than an occupation force?"
Federational States
26-07-2007, 13:39
What would make this different from an occupation force is that the proposed force wuld be under direct command of the provisonal authority and not of the states making up the force, structured like a UN peacekeeping force.
Damirez
26-07-2007, 19:12
What would make this different from an occupation force is that the proposed force wuld be under direct command of the provisonal authority and not of the states making up the force, structured like a UN peacekeeping force.

"The problem is that there is no feasible way of establishing a provisional government in this situation. We have two sides with two very different ideologies here, agreement would be very hard to reach, especially if you take into account that the war was caused by this very divergence. Also, the term 'provisional government' might not be a good term to use here, since it's used mostly to show governments established by an occupational force or following a successful revolution."
Lach-Land
27-07-2007, 09:00
heres an example of one-party democracy;

The Cuban political system is based on a foundation of local elections. Each urban neighborhood and rural village and area is organized into a "circumscription," consisting generally of 1000 to 1500 voters. The circumscription meets regularly to discuss neighborhood or village problems. Each three years, the circumscription conducts elections, in which from two to eight candidates compete. The nominees are not nominated by the Communist Party or any other organizations. The nominations are made by anyone in attendance at the meetings, which generally have a participation rate of 85% to 95%. Those nominated are candidates for office without party affiliation. They do not conduct campaigns as such. A one page biography of all the candidates is widely-distributed. The nominees are generally known by the voters, since the circumscription is generally not larger than 1500 voters. If no candidate receives 50% of the votes, a run-off election is held. Those elected serve as delegates to the Popular Councils, which are intermediary structures between the circumscription and the Municipal Assembly. Those elected also serve simultaneously as delegates to the Municipal Assembly. The delegates serve in the Popular Councils and the Municipal Assemblies on a voluntary basis without pay, above and beyond their regular employment

i dont see whats so bad about this to the rebels.

a provisional govertment is a abolition of the Tatom govertment though.
Federational States
27-07-2007, 21:18
Well another alternative to a provisional authority would be splitting the comnutry in two but this will lead to a standoff lasting years and would be good for no one. Any thoughs please.

CFS Rep, Paula Carlsson
Soviet leaders
28-07-2007, 04:30
"Yea if we go for splitting the country into and the creation of a DMZ then one side will declare war on the other and we will end up back here and we will have to get involved in the matter. With Soviet Leaders advancing technology we will most likely not be able to come into the fight because our technology would out class everyones here."
OOC: I am moving my nation to future tech soon so the only influence I would have in the war is building weapons for the communist really cheaply
Federational States
28-07-2007, 10:09
CFS advocates a diarming oprogramme for both sides and teh craeation of a Tamyom Defense force independent from the existingf rebels ans Tatom communist armies. This would stabalise the country and befdor eyou ask me who would be in command osuch a force why not Damierez as they are acting as mediator of these talks.

CFS Represetative
Damirez
28-07-2007, 11:25
CFS advocates a disarming programme for both sides and the creation of a Tatom Defence force independent from the existing rebels an Tatom communist armies. This would stabilise the country and before you ask me who would be in command such a force why not Damirez as they are acting as mediator of these talks.

"While our nation poses both the means and the will to do something in regards to the Tatom situation, no soldier of The Principality would set foot on the Tatom mainland without a firm mandate from the participants at this conference, the communists and democrats and more importantly the people of Tatom.

Furthermore since our country currently holds the seat of High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy for the Free World Alliance this peacekeeping mission could be established under FWA authority as the very status of the Alliance would guarantee that only the best interest of the Tatom civilians is going to be taken into account.


However I repeat, my country will take no action unless endorsement is received."

Prince Davout ended his reply and took a sip of water, this was taking a whole new turn from what he expected. It was not the first time for The Principality to send troops outside their borders, the rebuilding mission in Cazelia and the current development in Alfegos creating precedents, but this was something on a totally different level.

Nevertheless, The Principality had embarked on a journey to bring peace to Tatom and if that meant providing a peacekeeping force he was certain that his government would back him up 100%.
Federational States
28-07-2007, 17:15
A new organization should be formed outside of the FWA, they should not have authority in Tatom.

Federational states
Damirez
28-07-2007, 17:33
A new organization should be formed outside of the FWA, they should not have authority in Tatom.

Federational states

"In the event that we will call upon the alliance to provide a peacekeeping mission we assure you that the FWA will hold no authority in Tatom. Authority belongs to the people of Tatom alone and it is not our right or anyone's else for that matter to take that from them.

We suggested the participation of the FWA because of the interested manifested by various members in ending the conflict in Tatom and because the Alliance kept itself neutral so far.

But I digress, so far we have reached no decision and while if requested my nation will act to bring peace to Tatom we will not continue this discussion. However if such a mandate is received you can be sure that we will do our best to both rebuild Tatom and insure the independence of the country."
Lach-Land
28-07-2007, 23:17
"i say that the peacekeeping force should be a multinational collaberation to make it as un-biased as possible." inside the delegates pocket the Lach-land Anthem starts to sound A working class hero is something to fear "hang on ive got to get this" the delegate pulls out a phone A worki..."hello ...what?...blanket lifted! really?...Ok I'll tell them...ok Bye Comrade" he hangs up and puases before addressing the assembly "i've got good news the entire Lach-land Grand Army has withdrawn from Tatom on more pressing matters"
Federational States
29-07-2007, 10:51
We concur with lach-land lets form a multinational peacekeeping force which we all commit to no matter who we supported in the war as this shows the people of Tatom that we are leading by example and working together.
Damirez
29-07-2007, 15:38
We concur with lach-land lets form a multinational peacekeeping force which we all commit to no matter who we supported in the war as this shows the people of Tatom that we are leading by example and working together.

Prince Davout blinked at the proposal. These negotiations were really going nowhere.

"We doubt about the viability of such a proposal. Like we have mentioned before, organizing a peace keeping force from forces that until recently fought in the war is a very bad idea. It would lead exactly to what we are trying to avoid, getting the country divided.

Not only would the soldiers of a nation that fought on one side would be perceived as hostile by the other faction, but it would lead to a very unstable situation. What you are suggesting is essentially turning the armies that helped into an occupation force, and that we will not stand.

The only way a peace keeping force is going to be effective is by insuring that it is composed by nations that were neutral in the war, so there will be no resentment from the citizens of Tatom."

As he ended his little speech, prince Davout realized that there was still a long way to get even the supporters of the two factions to agree.
Tatom
30-07-2007, 15:44
The communists and the rebels arrived at the talks, Alexander Fredder was among the rebels.


Alexander says"The election idea proposed by Centra Presontia is a good idea."


The communist President said "How about we divide the country that way everyone is happy?"
Federational States
30-07-2007, 23:20
Everyone elses tthoughts on divding tthe country please. We would rather go for a election.
Tatom
31-07-2007, 15:19
Everyone elses tthoughts on divding tthe country please. We would rather go for a election.




Both sides support the election idea.







OOC: I will create a thread for the election.
Federational States
31-07-2007, 20:45
Good then thes peace talksareat aa lose.Up on a sucessful conclusion to teh election no matter who wins the CFS garrison of 5000 will leave Tatom for good.

Gorus Bali, CFS Govoner General
Soviet leaders
01-08-2007, 03:50
We will also leave the area as soon as the elections are over.