NationStates Jolt Archive


Priest Criticizes Catholic Inquisitions

Cherry Ridge
19-07-2007, 23:52
Excerpt from the syndicated Radio program "Romanist Ravings", by Fr. Sean Fitzgerald.

...Even today, there are a certain few Catholic nations who feel the need to execute other Christians for their beliefs. Would Christ want this? No! This is madness! Anyone who commits violence in the name of God is a hypocrite who perverts the word of God! For violence is contrary to the nature of God, according to our Pope. There is no religion on earth today without skeletons in the closet. Who are we to judge other faith traditions that do not harm others? Only God is to judge, lest we forget the words of Jesus. Judge not lest ye be judged! He who is sinless, cast the first stone! I call on Cardinal Marco, my archbishop, the Archbishop of Carmel, to apologize for heinous crimes commited by his predecessors! However, I also praise him for his working with the Protestants, I call on Bishop O'Malley of Innocent to cease his criticism of our Anglican brothers for petty details! I condemn absolutely the cowards, the Bishops of Gens Romae who continue their inquisition* in this day and age! Finally, I applaud Bishop Cesari of Berchman for his work in the Ecumenical field. May God bless you all.


*http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12813575&postcount=67
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 00:35
Official Message from the Imperator of Rome to Fr. Fitzgerald:

Cease and desist with your modernistic radio ranting...or else.
Zackaroth
20-07-2007, 00:43
After over hearing this rant by Fr. Sean Fitzgerald I, Aimless von Strangaild, would like to congradulate him on a very level-headed and exccllent rant. The nation of Zackaroth agrees with him. We are a nation built on Christian values and morals. We respect other sects of Christianty and other religons. We are not as so foolish as some other nations to use God's name as a tool to kill. Once again I would like to say congrats and thank you for showing the world that not all Christians are not as bad as other supposed God loving nations do.

Aimless von Strangaild, High leader of Zackaroth.
Kroando
20-07-2007, 00:48
The Human Order Condemns the Catholic Inquisition

This intolerable nonsense is simply another episode of corrupted organized religion wreaking terror upon the human race in order to expand it's own control over this planet. The corruption of these men in Gens Romae, these men who call themselves holy, these men who themselves would be despots if they were allowed, these men must be stopped. If these extremist Neo-Inquisitional lunatics do not stop, the Human Order will intervene to protect the human life currently in peril.

~Marshall Velspar
Foriegn Minister of the Human Order
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 00:59
Father Sean Fitzgerald released the Gens Romae reply to the international press. A CRNN clip was also include din the package.

Father Sean Fitzgerald, standing on the step of a stone church, began, "First and foremost I would like to thank those who have backed me on this. Secondly, I would like to point out to the Imperator that he was threatened a priest in good standing with the Catholic Church with violence. Violence commited on a priest is contrary to church law. Secondly, my own Archbishop was criticized, and yet he supprots my right to speak as I choose." He laughed, "Though if one of the other Ridgian bishops was over me, Bishop O'Malley, I may very well have had to take off my collar by now. Let me close by saying that the Imperator has no clue what modernism is. In my view, the greatest ehresy is that of hatred."
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 03:11
OOC: wow, it's been a long time since I've seen you around these parts!
IC:
ViZion fully supports Father Sean Fitzgerald in his view. ViZion will be looking into the actions taken by Gens Romae, and will act accordingly. Thank you for also bringing this to our attention.

President Kilo
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 03:22
ooc: I've seen you around though!

ic:
President Kilo,
I thank you for standing up for truth. Gens Romae has not only publically announced that any Protestant within their borders would be subject to the Inquisition (We know the historical end result of that, sadly, even within my own country), the Imperator has also threatened me personally, evidence of their backwards ways.

God Bless,
Rev. Sean Fitzgerald
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 03:26
ooc: I've seen you around though!

ic:
President Kilo,
I thank you for standing up for truth. Gens Romae has not only publically announced that any Protestant within their borders would be subject to the Inquisition (We know the historical end result of that, sadly, even within my own country), the Imperator has also threatened me personally, evidence of their backwards ways.

God Bless,
Rev. Sean Fitzgerald
OOC: seems everyone had recently w/ my 10 or so RPs lol
IC:
Sean Fitzgerald,

If you would like to send me some information that you have, please do so. Also, if you have a copy of his threat available, we would greatly appreciate seeing it.

Thank you,

President Kilo
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 03:33
Official Document to Fr. Fitzgerald:

You are hereby summoned to Florence for a doctrinal dialogue. You are expected within the next week.

Constantinus Valentinus
Archbishop of Florence
Cravan
20-07-2007, 03:42
((OOC:

No! This is madness!

Madness? THIS. IS. NATIONSTATES.

))

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http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/Cravanian%20Flags/imperialstandardcopy.png
Office of the Emperor of Cravan
Official Decree of the Imperial Crown


As a fellow Catholic, I hear the words of Father Fitzgerald and agree wholeheartedly. The teachings of the Lord and His Son Christ were of love and forgiveness, not hatred and bloodshed. The killing in the name of Christianity must be put to an end, before our religion's reputation is dragged even further into the gutter by those who stray from His teachings.

Although I lead a secular nation, my heart and the hearts of Cravanian Christians are, I am sure, with you.

Dated Nineteen July, of the Year of our Lord Two-Thousand and Seven.

Signed,
Robert Craven
Robert the Second of Cravan, protector and keeper of the glorious Empire of Cravan and her holdings overseas, defender of faith and justice, holder of righteousness.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 03:43
((OOC:



Madness? THIS. IS. NATIONSTATES.

))
OOC: I'm pretty sure he realizes that ;)
Cravan
20-07-2007, 03:47
OOC: You didn't see 300, did you? =P
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 03:48
OOC: seems everyone had recently w/ my 10 or so RPs lol
IC:
Sean Fitzgerald,

If you would like to send me some information that you have, please do so. Also, if you have a copy of his threat available, we would greatly appreciate seeing it.

Thank you,

President Kilo

President Kilo,

I have enclosed the threats.*

-Fr. Sean Fitzgerald


*http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12890584&postcount=2
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 03:54
Official Document to Fr. Fitzgerald:

You are hereby summoned to Florence for a doctrinal dialogue. You are expected within the next week.

Constantinus Valentinus
Archbishop of Florence

Your Excellency,
I am not under your jurisdiction, therefore, you do not have the authority to issue commands. However, I have enclosed the name of my superior if you wish to contact him. I assure you, there is one Ridgian bishop who would also like to see me summoned!

God Bless,
Rev. Sean Fitzgerald

His Eminence, Joseph Cardinal Marco,
Archbishop and Metropolitan of Carmel and Primate of Cherry Ridge
Vice Chancellor of the House of Lords
Religious Advisor to the Crown
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 03:55
((OOC:



Madness? THIS. IS. NATIONSTATES.

))

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http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/Cravanian%20Flags/imperialstandardcopy.png
Office of the Emperor of Cravan
Official Decree of the Imperial Crown


As a fellow Catholic, I hear the words of Father Fitzgerald and agree wholeheartedly. The teachings of the Lord and His Son Christ were of love and forgiveness, not hatred and bloodshed. The killing in the name of Christianity must be put to an end, before our religion's reputation is dragged even further into the gutter by those who stray from His teachings.

Although I lead a secular nation, my heart and the hearts of Cravanian Christians are, I am sure, with you.

Dated Nineteen July, of the Year of our Lord Two-Thousand and Seven.

Signed,
Robert Craven
Robert the Second of Cravan, protector and keeper of the glorious Empire of Cravan and her holdings overseas, defender of faith and justice, holder of righteousness.

Your Excellency,

I express my deep gratitude for your support. I will keep you in my prayers, as I hope you keep me in yours.

God Bless,
Father Sean Fitzgerald

ooc: Yes, of course it is Nationstates!
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 04:26
OOC: You didn't see 300, did you? =P
OOC: AHHHHHHH! haha, just caught that.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 04:29
President Kilo,

I have enclosed the threats.*

-Fr. Sean Fitzgerald


*http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12890584&postcount=2
Sean Fitzgerald,

Thank you. Please inform us should they make any other threats, should you feel it necessary to begin gathering support. We will look further into their history of actions.

President Kilo
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 04:35
President Kilo,

Thank you for your support. I have enclosed transcripts of an announcement by the Gens Romae government announcing that Protestants would be subject to the inquisition.

God Bless,
Sean Fitzgerald

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12813575&postcount=67
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 04:45
President Kilo,

Thank you for your support. I have enclosed transcripts of an announcement by the Gens Romae government announcing that Protestants would be subject to the inquisition.

God Bless,
Sean Fitzgerald

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12813575&postcount=67
Sean Fitzgerald,

Thank you for the transcription! We will look into it, and if needed necessary, begin taking those he wishes to subject to the inquisition into ViZion for safety.

President Kilo
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 04:47
Sean Fitzgerald,

Thank you for the transcription! We will look into it, and if needed necessary, begin taking those he wishes to subject to the inquisition into ViZion for safety.

President Kilo

President Kilo,

I am sure those poor souls will appreciate your efforts. If Gens Romae does turn them over to you, I am prepared to aid in launching a drive for money, food, and clothing, to help relieve the cost.

God Bless,
Fr. Sean Fitzgerald
Derscon
20-07-2007, 04:59
((OOC:Madness? THIS. IS. NATIONSTATES.))

OOC: You fucking WIN this thread. :D

IC:


The Entirety of the Christian Community in Derscon supports Father Fitzgerald in his righteous condemnation of the Inquisition, past and current, and stand by him in his statement.

We would like to, as a unified voice, give our support to Father Fitzgerald, and to let him know the entirety of the Christian Community of Derscon is standing behind him.

Deo Vindice!

~~Blazhei Voikinov
Chairman of the Grand Imperial Council for the Advancement of the Protestant Faith and Heritage
Grand Master of the Legio Dei

~~Sergei VII
Patriarch of the Dersconi Orthodox Church

~~Johann Cardinal Wehrmann
Archbishop of Velseigrad
__________________________________________

Official Response by the Holy Tsar, Embodiment of Divine Derscon

We warn Gens Romae against doing anything that would compromise the national sovereignty of Cherry Ridge, or in any way harm her citizens, Catholic or non. Cherry Ridge, being a state of the Greater Prussian Empire, will not have her honour spat in the face of by nations like yours.

Any attempt to forcibly seize a Ridgian citizen will be treated as an attack on a Prussian citizen, and will be dealt with harshly. We demand that Gens Romae back down in its threats, or further action will be taken to defend Cherry Ridge from foreign aggressors.

His Most Eminent Majestic Highness Tsar Xavier Alexeitovich Caesar Agustus Andropov II, Fedei Defensor, By the Divine and Immortal Grace of God:

Ambrosial Seraph of the Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon
Arch-Chancellor of the Greater Prussian Empire
Leath-Ri of the Redemption Isles
Veliky Kralj of the Eternal Empire
Khšaçapavan of the Covanent of God
Knight Commander and Dragon Master of the IOI
Gloeihdamae
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 06:01
The Archbishop of Florence and the Imperator of Rome stand together on the Rostra (an outdoor public podium) in Rome. Before them are thousands of people waiting to hear them speak. The Imperator faces the Archbishop, bowing from the waist, symbolically ratifying with the powers of the Roman State all that the spiritual authority is to proclaim. The Archbishop blessed the Imperator, at which point in time the Imperator descends from the Rostra, surrounding himself with gaurds.

The Archbishop faces the crowd and adresses them:

"I am sure that there are many among you who have heard the pernicious lies of the Heretic Fr. Fitzgerald. These are not new heresies. His message is not an original one. His message is merely a rehash of old lies. In times past, the Holy Father adressed these same lies, swiftly shattering these heresies, cutting them down in his authority. I therefore present to you all the Syllabus of Errors by Pius IX."

He then reads the Syllabus (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9syll.htm) to all who are gathered there, placing special emphasis on articles 77-79...

"77. In the present day it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion should be held as the only religion of the State, to the exclusion of all other forms of worship. -- Allocution "Nemo vestrum," July 26, 1855.

78. Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship. -- Allocution "Acerbissimum," Sept. 27, 1852.

79. Moreover, it is false that the civil liberty of every form of worship, and the full power, given to all, of overtly and publicly manifesting any opinions whatsoever and thoughts, conduce more easily to corrupt the morals and minds of the people, and to propagate the pest of indifferentism. -- Allocution "Nunquam fore," Dec. 15, 1856. "

Article 55:

"55. The Church ought to be separated from the .State, and the State from the Church. -- Allocution "Acerbissimum," Sept. 27, 1852."

But most of all 15-18:

"15. Every man is free to embrace and profess that religion which, guided by the light of reason, he shall consider true. -- Allocution "Maxima quidem," June 9, 1862; Damnatio "Multiplices inter," June 10, 1851.

16. Man may, in the observance of any religion whatever, find the way of eternal salvation, and arrive at eternal salvation. -- Encyclical "Qui pluribus," Nov. 9, 1846.

17. Good hope at least is to be entertained of the eternal salvation of all those who are not at all in the true Church of Christ. -- Encyclical "Quanto conficiamur," Aug. 10, 1863, etc.

18. Protestantism is nothing more than another form of the same true Christian religion, in which form it is given to please God equally as in the Catholic Church. -- Encyclical "Noscitis," Dec. 8, 1849."

The Archbishop:

"My friends, we are not one among many. We are the only sure path to Salvation. Protestantism is not merely another form of Christianity. It is a rebellion against Our Holy Mother the Church. It is an abomination, it is a perversion of the Truth that we each hold so dear.

My friends, as the Lord sayeth according to St. Luke, one cannot both love Him yet hate His Church and His Clergy. And indeed, in societies where Our Holy Catholic Faith is publically known, proclaimed, and followed by the vast majorities, the proclomation of the Protestant lie poses a dangerous threat to the immortal souls of all to whom it is proclaimed. And as Our Lord sayeth, though we fear not him who harmeth the body, we fear him who harmeth the soul. Therefore, if it is fitting that murderers die, then so too must heretics who proclaim heresy, which killeth the soul.

Therefore, by virtue of my Apostolic Authority, I hereby excommunicate Fr. Fitzgerald from Our Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. May the Christian faithful at every point avoid him, and treat him as a Heathen and a Publican. Furthermore, if at any point Fitzgerald enters Rome, he is to be seized and placed under arrest. Furthermore, he is hereby blacklisted, and, whether in Rome or anywhere else, may be slain by any who see him. The canonical penalty barring violence on a priest do not apply at this point to this excommunicate.

That is all."

Meanwhile, this has been broadcasted internationally.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 06:10
ooc: You do know your archbishop has no authority over my priest? The only person who can excommunicate him is his own ordinary or the Pope. Just want to double check to make sure you know that he has no authority over him and it would be an invalid excommunication, unless you are RPing as an antipope or something.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

"Excommunication is an act of ecclesiastical jurisdiction, the rules of which it follows. Hence the general principle: whoever has jurisdiction in the forum externum, properly so called, can excommunicate, but only his own subjects. Therefore, whether excommunications be a jure (by the law) or ab homine (under form of sentence or precept), they may come from the pope alone or a general council for the entire Church; from the provincial council for an ecclesiastical province; from the bishop for his diocese; from the prelate nullius for quasi-diocesan territories; and from regular prelates for religious orders."

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05678a.htm
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 06:12
oJust want to double check to make sure you know that he has no authority over him and it would be an invalid excommunication, unless you are RPing as an antipope or something.

Mea culpa. Just roll with it anyway. I'll deal with that later. Either way, it doesn't matter. It's the pronouncement of excommunication based on a latae sententiae offense.
Derscon
20-07-2007, 06:16
Official Statement

The Catholic Church dioceses in Derscon does not hold Gens Romae's statement to be binding, as only the Bishop of the man-in-question's diocese, or the Holy Father Himself, may excommunicate a priest.

As you are neither the Bishop of Father Fitzgerald, nor the Holy Father, Pope Benedict XVI, the excommunication edict is invalid. It is interesting that a so-called 'Catholic' order would be so venomous to a priest that dares admit fault in the past and the present that it would violate its own rules to defame a fellow Father.

~~Johann Cardinal Wehrmann
Archbishop of Velseigrad
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 06:19
Statement of The Archdiocese of Carmel
The Archbishop of Florence has no authority over the Reverend Father Sean Fitzgerald. To clarify, it is an itnernal matter of the Archdiocese, and His Eminence will deal with the matter privately. It would appear that the excommunication is invalid.

Office of the Vicar General

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Response of Father Sean Fitzgerald

The CRNN feed cut to a large white house, apaprently the rectory of the priest's church:
The good archbishop must be mistaken. I am not under his authority. I urge him to read Dignatatis Humanae, the Second Vatican Council's declaration on religious freedom. As for the trehats of violence, well, what would Christ do? That is exactly what I was condemning on my show. I will pray for the Imperator and Archbishop.
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 06:20
OOC: This raises one hell of a point. How do we take Papal authority in our NS rp? There is a pope, as is assuredly assumed. But who is rp'ing him?
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 06:22
Mea culpa. Just roll with it anyway. I'll deal with that later. Either way, it doesn't matter. It's the pronouncement of excommunication based on a latae sententiae offense.

OOC: It is not under your archbishop's authority to pronounce it. It is his own ordinary's place. I role play Cardinal Marco as a mild mannered guy, he would probably be willing to have an open forum discussion if you requested it, on neutral ground or via video conference.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 06:25
OOC: This raises one hell of a point. How do we take Papal authority in our NS rp? There is a pope, as is assuredly assumed. But who is rp'ing him?

OOC: If you can figure that out, then you win nationstates. Some recognize this guy who is not inactive, some recognize the real life Pope, like me. I think most role play with the Pope just rubber stamping most things, or just not bring him up. Which is why I tend to avoid ecclesiastical arguments over punishments.
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 06:33
OOC: Hm...I am playing Rome, and if the Vatican is in Rome, then it follows that I should get to rp the Pope. But it seems like an insult to the Holy Father to reduce him to such a frivilous state of being mimicked in an rp. Let's go with your Cardinal idea:

IC:

Letter from the Archbishop of Florence to Cardinal Marco:

Greetings brother bishop! As you may or may not know, in your own area of jurisdiction, one Fr. Fitzgerald has been teaching lies and heresy to the faithful in his parish, and beyond, by radio air waves. His teachings have been clearly condemned in prior papal precedent, and his teachings are clearly and obstinately heretical. I therefore humbly ask that you ratify my decree of excommunication.

Constantinus Valentinus
The Crystal Mountains
20-07-2007, 06:44
Meanwhile in the Commonwealth of the Crystal Mountains

Commonwealth Media, an affiliate of The Londinian Broadcasting Group, takes a number of English language broadcasts to provide programming for their own customers.

A popular religious show called Catholicism Today shows a 20 minute segment on the controversy between Father Fitzgerald and the Inquisition. News of the controversy spreads like wildfire around the CCM in which a large segment of the population are Irish-Catholic.

CCM authorities are mystified the next day when their typically mellow population breaks out in angry protests disgusted by the excommunication of Father Fitzgerald. Crowds of angry protesters carrying signs surround Catholic churches all over the Commonwealth praying and chanting, "Father Fitzgerald for Pope" and "Excommunicate us too."

Thankfully, while angry and vocal, the protests are peaceful and quite well mannered. The protesters are composed of the sort of people who have never been to a protest before: doctors, laborers, professionals, cops, teachers, students.

After a long day of venting their anger over developments in their church, they sang a few hymns, prayed the Lord's prayer and went home.

The days events took place under the unblinking eye of Commonwealth Media which faithfully reported the protests to the rest of the world via The Londinian Broadcasting Group.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 06:48
Brother Bishop,

I hesitate to ratify a decree that is invalid. Perhaps we can meet for a conference? The Archbishop of Velseigrad has assured me that the Dersconi Empire will provide mediation. I assure you it is completely safe. (ooc: Just post your arrival and he can take us to the place.) The two other Ridgian ordinaries, the Dersconi Archbishop, and Father Fitzgerald will be in attendance as well. Feel free to bring as many aids and other bishops as you like, within reason.

Kissing the Sacred Purple,
+ His Eminence Joseph Cardinal Marco, Archbishop of Carmel


OOC: You have our OOC promise that we will not pull any cheap shots.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 06:52
Meanwhile in the Commonwealth of the Crystal Mountains

Commonwealth Media, an affiliate of The Londinian Broadcasting Group, takes a number of English language broadcasts to provide programming for their own customers.

A popular religious show called Catholicism Today shows a 20 minute segment on the controversy between Father Fitzgerald and the Inquisition. News of the controversy spreads like wildfire around the CCM in which a large segment of the population are Irish-Catholic.

CCM authorities are mystified the next day when their typically mellow population breaks out in angry protests disgusted by the excommunication of Father Fitzgerald. Crowds of angry protesters carrying signs surround Catholic churches all over the Commonwealth praying and chanting, "Father Fitzgerald for Pope" and "Excommunicate us too."

Thankfully, while angry and vocal, the protests are peaceful and quite well mannered. The protesters are composed of the sort of people who have never been to a protest before: doctors, laborers, professionals, cops, teachers, students.

After a long day of venting their anger over developments in their church, they sang a few hymns, prayed the Lord's prayer and went home.

The days events took place under the unblinking eye of Commonwealth Media which faithfully reported the protests to the rest of the world via The Londinian Broadcasting Group.

Father Fitzgerald sends his blessings to the crowd. He reminds them that the excommunication is invalid, and he will soon be attending talks with his Archbishop and that of Gens Romae to settle the matter. He thanks the protestors for remaining peaceful, as our Lord would do.

Father Sean Fitzgerald continues his pastoral duties at Old Saint Mary's Parish in South Carmel.
New Brittonia
20-07-2007, 06:52
David Flower read the news and was rumored to have muttered the followind sentence,

"Thank God I'm an atheist."
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 07:03
The Archbishop of Florence arrives in the foreign empire, flanked by a priest on either side, each bearing several documents. He approaches the appointed place, and waits for his hosts.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 07:22
The plane landed in the designated airport. From the steps descended a man dressed in a perfect black cassock, outlined in the scarlet red of a Cardinal. A matchnig scarlet cincture was around his waist, and a zuchetto sat atop his head. He was followed by an aide, in a plain black cassock and biretta. Following Cardinal Marco was Bishop Michael Cesari of the Diocese of Berchman. He was in a plain clerical suit, though a pectoral cross, smaller than the Cardinal's, hung from his neck. His episcopal ring was also a much simpler gold band, compared to the Cardinal's stone. He also had one aide, though his was a sister, instead of a priest. Finally, Bishop William O'Malley descended. He was in choir dress, biretta, and, unlike the others, was trailed by a long cappa magna, held above the ground by two priests. Two aides followed the two carrying his great cape. It was apparent he was more traditional than the other two.

Marco spoke for all of them, "Your Grace, it is good to meet you." He extended his hand, "I am Cardinal Marco." He motioned to Cesari, "This is Bishop Cesari, of the Diocese of Berchman." Cesari nodded, and frowned, while Marco continued, "And this is Bishop O'Malley of the Diocese of Innocent." He also nodded, and a slight smile showed he approved of the Archbishop.

From the plane, a priest dressed in a clerical suit was putting his jacket on as he descended down the steps. His collar hung loosely, apparent that he had been relaxing, and would attach it when the meeting actually began. He swiftly walked past the three Ridgian bishops, much to O'Malley visible disapproval, and extended his hand to the Archbishop. Apparently, he would not kiss his ring, "I'm Father Sean Fitzgerald! It is a pleasure to meet you."
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 07:32
The Archbishop kneels before the Cardinal, taking his hand, and kisses the ring upon his finger... "Hail O Prince of the Church." He rises to his feet, allowing his aids to adress the cardinal in the same way. Upon his aids doing so, he bows to the Cardinal, and addresses him:

"My fair liege, when I was ordained a bishop, the books of the Gospels were placed upon my shoulders, symbolically expressing that it is my solemn duty to ensure that the Gospel of Our Lord be proclaimed without error, without heresy, and in the spirit of Tradition.

You, my Cardinal, don the red vestments of your office, a sign of your willingness to have your blood spilt, as the martyrs, for Our Holy Mother the Church.

Therefore, the weight of our office presses upon us, and we must keep in mind what is in the best interests of the Church, of the immortal souls of the Faithful.

Shall we first invoke the Holy Spirit?"
New Brittonia
20-07-2007, 07:35
Open Letter

Hello,

It is times like these that trouble me. Not only has one nation committed illegal acts, but an organization residing in that same nation threatemed the man who was speaking out against these violations. I would like to tell to the government of Gens Romane that genocide will not be seen lightly on the face of the Earth and whenever there is discrimination, people are watching. And you may be able to silence one man for preaching tolerence, it is impossible to silence a nation. Finally, I would like to leave you all with some quotes.

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

I consider western Christianity in its practical working a negation of Christ’s Christianity.

This was from Your Prime Minister, the People's Prime Minister
David Flower
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 07:42
The Cardinal nodded, "Thank you." He had had his ring kissed, but only on occasion with such ceremony. He pronounced a blessing over the three men after they had reverenced his ring.

"Yes, let us invoke the Holy Spirit, and by then, our escorts should have arrived."

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Almighty Father, we ask you to send your Holy Spirit upon us and guide us on the way to truth. You sent your son, Jesus, to show us the path to salvation. Guide us, your servants, as we seek truth today. We ask this through Christ our Lord. Amen. He repeated the trinitarian formula, just as the Dersconis arrived.


OOC: Derscon will post taking us to the meting place, then we can begin discussions.
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 07:48
The archbishop blinks at the prayer which...wasn't...the invocation of the Holy Spirit. Sighing, he says the right prayer under his breath:

"Veni Spiritus Sancte, reple tuorum corda fidelium, et tui amoris in eis ignem accende (Come, Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of your faithful, and enkindle in them the fire of your love)."

Obviously, this meeting had gotten to a bad start. Alas, at least the good bishop knew what he was dealing with. He waits for the Dersconis.
Derscon
20-07-2007, 07:58
Once both planes were stored safely in their hangars, and the two parties did their introductions, the Dersconi moderators came from the side room. One was wearing an entirely black outfit, more military dress than religious -- which was appropriate, considering the person -- with a black and gold cape, black shined boots clicking on the floor as he approached, flanked by only one aide. The one with the cape spoke , and they realized when he spoke -- he was only 16 years old.

"Good evening to all of you. I am Kynaz Sanin Alexeitovich Andropov, and I will be here to make sure no one kills anyone in the debate," he said, smirking. "Now, if you'll follow me, we'll be using the Winter Palace of the Tsars as our meeting place. I assure you, it's quite comfortable."
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The Winterhof

Navigating the intricate palace after driving through the snow, they finally arrived at the small conference room. It was small yet spacious at the same time -- it wasn't cluttered by needless items of decoration. The theme was obviously the ocean, and one could tell by the fact the main wall colour was a neutral blue, as to be relaxing, but not depressing (ideal for fiery debates). There were only two paintings on the walls, one was of Jörmungandr resting his head on a beach at night, and the other one was of the late Tsar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov II and his family in a relaxed professional form.

The table was elliptical in shape, with all of the chairs having the same look to them save one, which was slightly more decorative, having the Double-Headed Eagle crowning the chair.

Kynaz Sanin motioned for the Archbishop of Florence, Cardinal Marco, and Father Fitzgerald to sit down at the small table, and when they did, they found that their chairs seem to have been made perfectly, just for them. Which they were. It was a secret of the trade, Derscon's conferences, one they would never, ever, release, getting chairs custom-to-fit within five minutes of a conference.

There were chairs (only generic ones, but nonetheless undoubtedly comfortable) along the wall on either side -- just enough for the aides and others who came along. Servants came in offering drinks to those present, and -- as is typical in all Dersconi conferences -- a small bar was present, presenting some of the finest wines and other beverages that Derscon had to offer.

Once everyone was seated, Kynaz Sanin took his seat in the middle -- the one crowned with the double-headed eagle -- and greeted all present.

"Well, as all of you are aware, I am here simply to mediate. So, Cardinal Marco," he said, looking across the elliptical table to Marco, with Fitzgerald to his right and the Archbishop of Florence to his left. "You may take the reigns."
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 08:01
"Ah, the Come Holy Spirit!" The Cardinal laughed slightly. A grin broke across Bishop Cesari's face, and Father Fitzgerald laughed slightly. Bishop O'Malley, on the other hand, grew visibly angry. "Thank you, Your Grace, for correcting the mistake. A sad world when a Cardinal Prince does not know childhood prayers." Father Fitzgerald quickly said, "Bishop O'Malley, perhaps those who are slightly older than the Cardinal failed in teaching properly?" He grinned openly now, as O'Malley knew exactly what he meant.

"Well, to be honest, I was wrong. I did not know you meant the invocation." The Cardinal was slighlty embaressed, but did not let it bother him, after all, as Fitzgerald would surely remind him, there were knew renditions of the traditional invocation. He ignored O'Malley's comments as he did not wish to argue.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 08:07
Once both planes were stored safely in their hangars, and the two parties did their introductions, the Dersconi moderators came from the side room. One was wearing an entirely black outfit, more military dress than religious -- which was appropriate, considering the person -- with a black and gold cape, black shined boots clicking on the floor as he approached, flanked by only one aide. The one with the cape spoke , and they realized when he spoke -- he was only 16 years old.

"Good evening to all of you. I am Kynaz Sanin Alexeitovich Andropov, and I will be here to make sure no one kills anyone in the debate," he said, smirking. "Now, if you'll follow me, we'll be using the Winter Palace of the Tsars as our meeting place. I assure you, it's quite comfortable."
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The Winterhof

Navigating the intricate palace after driving through the snow, they finally arrived at the small conference room. It was small yet spacious at the same time -- it wasn't cluttered by needless items of decoration. The theme was obviously the ocean, and one could tell by the fact the main wall colour was a neutral blue, as to be relaxing, but not depressing (ideal for fiery debates). There were only two paintings on the walls, one was of Jörmungandr resting his head on a beach at night, and the other one was of the late Tsar Rekjyavich Ivan Andropov II and his family in a relaxed professional form.

The table was elliptical in shape, with all of the chairs having the same look to them save one, which was slightly more decorative, having the Double-Headed Eagle crowning the chair.

Kynaz Sanin motioned for the Archbishop of Florence, Cardinal Marco, and Father Fitzgerald to sit down at the small table, and when they did, they found that their chairs seem to have been made perfectly, just for them. Which they were. It was a secret of the trade, Derscon's conferences, one they would never, ever, release, getting chairs custom-to-fit within five minutes of a conference.

There were chairs (only generic ones, but nonetheless undoubtedly comfortable) along the wall on either side -- just enough for the aides and others who came along. Servants came in offering drinks to those present, and -- as is typical in all Dersconi conferences -- a small bar was present, presenting some of the finest wines and other beverages that Derscon had to offer.

Once everyone was seated, Kynaz Sanin took his seat in the middle -- the one crowned with the double-headed eagle -- and greeted all present.

"Well, as all of you are aware, I am here simply to mediate. So, Cardinal Marco," he said, looking across the elliptical table to Marco, with Fitzgerald to his right and the Archbishop of Florence to his left. "You may take the reigns."

"Thank you, Sanin," he said softly, as he usually did. He looked to the Archbishop, "Your Grace, let me get to the point quickly. Why did you issue an invalid excommunication? You know well that under church law, it is invalid."
The Crystal Mountains
20-07-2007, 10:22
Commonwealth of the Crystal Mountains

Situation Room, Commonwealth Combined Headquarters


Senior Minister Richard James sits down at the large oval table opening the meeting, the rest of the assembled Ministers and military officers sit.

Minister James began the meeting: "What does our threat board look like?"

"General Kincade Commonwealth Air Force. Our Air space is calm and untroubled besides for a couple of satellite snoops."

"Admiral Jenkins, Commonwealth Fleet. No threats in our waters but some big task forces are moving back east of us."

"General Laird, Commonwealth Army. Our rangers took out another nest of pirates down on Tulavon. All quiet otherwise."

"Susan Reid, Commonwealth Militia. Today there were peaceful, country-wide protests over a controversy within the Catholic Church. Many people took the day off to participate. The crowds were exceptionally well behaved- one of our Captains remarked on his report that he wished all the protests went this well. If it hadn't been for the signs and banners, you might have thought that it was a summer holiday complete with barbecue and music."

Minister James looked up, "What's the potential for this thing to get out of hand?"

Reid replied, "We judge that to be quite low sir."

James nodded and remarked, "You realize that the casus bellifor the majority of the wars in our history have been religious?"

Foreign Minister Richard Fleming asked, "Would you like for us to send a quiet diplomatic note to Gens Romae and ask them to reign in their religious hot-heads?"

James stood and looked at the flattened globe on the wall pacing restlessly. "No. At this point let's just stay out of it and hope that cooler heads prevail. The last thing we want to be seen as doing is trying to strong arm a major world religion. This thing just makes me uneasy. What's the worst that could happen out of this?"

Reid answered, "Some fanatic manages to kill... oh what's his name... Fitzgerald and he's linked back to the Papacy. The church splits and Holy War."

"Jesus." One of the military staffers uttered.

James seized the moment to make his point, "Exactly my point! Jesus, indeed. Nothing in our history has motivated men to fight harder, shed more blood and enter into longer conflicts than religion. Remember your history: the 100 Years War, the Thirty Years War that was all about another split in the church."

Reid asked, "Well what can we do about it."

James replied, "Exactly nothing. We push either side, we become their enemy. As a government under our Constitution, we are officially neutral in any religious affairs and we stick to that line like glue and hope if it goes up in flames, it doesn't stick to us."

General Laird of the army said, "Is the situation really that dangerous?"

James replied, "There are many hot spots in the world and even open conflicts. In my judgment, this could possibly be the worst. Almost a third of the entire world is majority Catholic and many other countries have a significant population of Catholics. If a major conflict between Catholics were to break out, it could conceivably destabilize a third of the world or more and involve countries that we count on as stable allies."
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 19:02
"Thank you, Sanin," he said softly, as he usually did. He looked to the Archbishop, "Your Grace, let me get to the point quickly. Why did you issue an invalid excommunication? You know well that under church law, it is invalid."

The Archbishop leans back in his chair, donning his poker face. He removes his miter and hands both his miter and his crosier to one of his aids. "Your Emminence, normally excommunication falls under the authority of the local bishop or of the Holy See. However, I am the head of the Inquisition, which was the brunt of Fr. Fitzgerald's ravings. So, while he is not technically under my jurisdiction insofar as he is not in my diocese, I nonetheless do have authority wheresoever the Inquisition is.

Either way, he is clearly a heretic, and the penalty of heresy is excommunication latae sententiae, which does not require an Apostolic action.

Not only that, but he attacked the old Inquisition, which existed in a time in which the Protestant heresy was still young, and therefore the inculpability which exists very often today ab ignorantia did not exist then.

This priest clearly espouses such ideas of radical religious tolerance, religious freedom, and ultimately reeks of religious relativism, all of which have been condemned again and again in our Church's history, always with the single line "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (Outside of the Church there is no salvation)."

In our own Roman Empire, Catholicism is the Church of the State, and all other forms of worship are illegal, as expressedly demanded in the Syllabus of Errors and in Unam Sanctam. So to attack the Roman Inquisition especially is to cast both of these out.

In short, we demand Fr. Fitzgerald to be extradited to Rome, where he is to be presently and publically executed for the crime of Heresy."

OOC: Because NOBODY expects the Inquisition! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A)
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 19:21
The Archbishop leans back in his chair, donning his poker face. He removes his miter and hands both his miter and his crosier to one of his aids. "Your Emminence, normally excommunication falls under the authority of the local bishop or of the Holy See. However, I am the head of the Inquisition, which was the brunt of Fr. Fitzgerald's ravings. So, while he is not technically under my jurisdiction insofar as he is not in my diocese, I nonetheless do have authority wheresoever the Inquisition is.

Either way, he is clearly a heretic, and the penalty of heresy is excommunication latae sententiae, which does not require an Apostolic action.

Not only that, but he attacked the old Inquisition, which existed in a time in which the Protestant heresy was still young, and therefore the inculpability which exists very often today ab ignorantia did not exist then.

This priest clearly espouses such ideas of radical religious tolerance, religious freedom, and ultimately reeks of religious relativism, all of which have been condemned again and again in our Church's history, always with the single line "Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus (Outside of the Church there is no salvation)."

In our own Roman Empire, Catholicism is the Church of the State, and all other forms of worship are illegal, as expressedly demanded in the Syllabus of Errors and in Unam Sanctam. So to attack the Roman Inquisition especially is to cast both of these out.

In short, we demand Fr. Fitzgerald to be extradited to Rome, where he is to be presently and publically executed for the crime of Heresy."

OOC: Because NOBODY expects the Inquisition! (http://youtube.com/watch?v=gldlyTjXk9A)

Cardinal Marco, usually an easy going man, suddenly turned stern. "Your inquisition has no authority within my Archdiocese. The Archdiocese has its own Tribunal. You will find, Excellency, that if you look at the rights of the Ridgian Church, granted by previous pontiffs, and consistantly reaffirmed, that only the reigning Pope has authority over the Archbishop of Carmel and his priests, as well as the King.* Catholicism is the court religion in Cherry Ridge." The Cardinal Prince of the Church raised the glass of wine to his lips, and took a small sip.

He then continued, "Furthermore, religious freedom is not a heresy, as it was upheld by Dignatatis Humanae, a document of the Second Vatican Council, and the Church can not allow error, yes?" He finished, "In short, I will not permit the death of the Father Fitzgerald. However, I do recognize your right to censure him within the confines of your authority, which does not extend into any nation that does not recognize your inquisition within their jurisdiction. I would request that you admit that the excommunication was invalid, and you do not have the authority to declare it. Even if he was excommunicated ipso facto, it is not within your jurisdiction to proclaim it. You would agree that you acted rashly, yes?"


*OOC Note: This is how I deal with the Papal issue. The Cardinal Archbishop of Carmel is a Crown-Cardinal. I RP there being an old agreement with Rome saying that the Ridgian Church may self govern to a degree, and still maintain loyalty to Rome.
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 19:27
The Archbishop sneers back at the Cardinal, and snaps his fingers. Immediately an aid scurries to him, bearing a document with the insignia of the Holy See. "Very well, if you want to play hard ball, let's play hard ball." A truly wicked smile crosses the face of the Archbishop as he unrolls the document, and places it upon the table for the Cardinal to read.

"Here is a treaty signed by the Pope 30 years ago, effective in perpetuality granting the head of the Inquisition, aka moi, the authority to declare interdiction on rebellious territories. So, here's the deal. Either you cede your own authority and hand over Fr. Fitzgerald, or millions of your own flock lose the Sacraments of the Church."
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 19:54
The Cardinal smirked, and produced his own document stating that the Church in Cherry Ridge was not subject to outside interference, save by the Pope himself, and any legate of his or other command was not binding over the Chruch of Cherry Ridge, save those issued by an Ecumenical Council or by the Pope himself.


OOC: We can produce documents back and forth endlessly. If yo uwish to say that you have papal authority, then count yourself among the many, many other Popes of Nationstates. Good luck getting people to recognize you. You really can not just come in and declare authority over other Catholic nations, unless you want to be considered as one of the anti-Popes of Nationstates.
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 20:03
The archbishop grimaces, and then quickly rises to his feet, hastily taking his crosier and Miter...and leaving with his aids. As soon as he gets back to Rome, he releases a public statement:

Decree of Interdiction:

The entire nation of Cherry Grove is hereby placed on interdict until the death both of Fr. Fitzgerald and Cardinal Marco. All of their sacraments are to be considered celebrated illicitly until that point, and no Catholic may, in good conscience, receive them. Furthermore, any Roman found guilty of having recieved the Sacraments in Cherry Grove from this point, up until this interdiction is lifted, is guilty of a capital crime, and shall be put to death by firing squad.

Constantinus Valentinus
Archbishop of Florence
Head of the Universal Inquisition

Cosigned by:

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome

OOC: You up for an assassination attempt?
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 20:15
His Most Eminent Lordship, The Cardinal Prince of the Holy Roman Church, Joseph Marco, Lord Archbishop of Carmel and Primate of Cherry Ridge, hereby states that the Archbishop of Florence has no authority over any state of the Greater Prussian Empire, and calls on all Catholic jurisdictions to simply not recognize this man as having any authority within the universal church. A psychiatrist's chair would be a more suitable place than the Episcopal Throne of Florence. I call on other Catholic nations to repeat this call, and to condemn this false authority, invalid under Church law. Another Anti-Pope is not what the Church needs.

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Marechal Charles Orlean of the Soli Deo Gloria division of the Imperial Guard of Greater Prussia looked at the incoming message. He forwarded the threats to his superiors, and all other nations of the Greater Prussian Empire, along with the note:
Fanatical traditionalist Catholics subject Protestants to the Inquisition, as well as Catholics who disobey what Cardinal Marco calls, "invalid orders." Worth a look. Secure defenses. Execution threatened on Prussian citizen.
-Charles Orlean

OOC: Attempt.
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 20:31
OOC: Sweet. Get on msn.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 20:34
OOC: I am on. What is your address? If you don't want to post it, telegramme it.
Allanea
20-07-2007, 20:55
Aboard the SOL Aerie of the Lord

The Aerie of the Lord was an ancient aircraft carrier, an old Dersconi ship sold off at an auction after it was no longer needed by the Dersconi navy. Now, it was being redecorated in dock in Derscon, to become a floating monastery for the Sisters of Liberty. Together with that ship were two ancient air-defense vessels and a cruiser decommissioned by the navy of Allanea ages ago.

The Sisters were not a Christian organization – rather, they were a pagan group, worshipping Elenaran Mephet’ran, the Lord-Messenger. And his Message was clear. The Lord did not require chastity from his ‘nuns’ – only dedication, and violence towards his foes.

“Sisters!” – shouted Sister Victoria, raising her arms. She stood on the superstructure of the immense carrier, her figure a tiny silhouette against the sun.

“Hear me, for I have been granted a Vision from our Lord the Messenger! His is the will!”

“His is the power!” - replied the Sisters in unison.

“For lo, there is a land, and it’s name is Gens Romae. And the Lord Says: ‘Come, and bring my message to the people in that land, for they offend against me, with their foul Inquisition and their perversion even of their own faith of Christianity. Go now, and purge their churches of the Statist Scum, and destroy their cardinals, and slaughter their inquisitors, and stomp upon their flag. Go, and do my will.’”

“His is the will!” – replied the Sisters.

“I have contacted the Allanean Congress by radio. We have received a letter of marque from the Allanean government. Though they have few resources to grant us due to this war in Haven, the Allanean Navy will bolster our strength with two carrier groups and one force projection groups. Further, the Department of Education will be sending in one aircraft carrier belonging to the Girl Scout Corps. Praise the Messenger, sisters, for he rends the enemy from our path like an open sea.”

“Sister Cecilia, go check the RADAR systems. Sister Atalanta, check the aircraft lift systems. Sister Patricia, inform the Dersconi port authorities we will be leaving before schedule. May the Messenger bless our purpose.”
Gens Romae
20-07-2007, 20:56
The CEO of Farmlands Inc. sends a telegram to all of the people of Cherry Ridge, reading as follows:

Good day Sir or Madam! Do you love money? Do you love farmland products? Farmland Inc. offers 10,000,000 Denarios to the first person to kill Cardinal Marco and Fr. Fitzgerald. There is, however, a few stipulations: Their bodies must be stripped of clothing and covered in cow manure...and you must video tape it. We look forward to producing a new television advertisement using this footage! Cheerio and happy hunting!

Primus Flaccus
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 21:09
Father Fitzgerlad looked at the telegramme, shrugged, and crumpled it. Cardinal Marco had it framed, and hanged on his office bathroom wall.
---

Charles Francis d'Orlean opene the telegramme. He thought, and then forwarded it to the King.

His Imperial Highness, the Imperator of Gens Romae,

Fellow Monarch,

I request, nay, demand the extradition of Primus Flaccus for threatening the lives of two of my subjects, one a priest, the other an Archbishop and Crown Cardinal.

Given at the Royal Palace.

His Majestic Highness, King John I, King of Cherry Ridge, Leath-Ri of the Redemption Isles, and Defender of the Faith
Derscon
20-07-2007, 21:13
Dersconi Naval Command, Island of Hope, Derscon

"Sir, we've received word that the SOL Aerie of the Lord has requested to leave ahead of schedule." Grand Imperial Admiral Marko Rekjyavich, Commander in Chief of the Dersconi Imperial Navy, looked over the request, as his CoI gave him another document.

"And here's why." Imperial Aeromarshal Herrfuchs Ljossalfheimer, Commander in Chief of the Dersconi Imperial Air Force, and a personal friend of Marko, looked over the documents with Marko and chuckled.

"Right, then." Marko looked up at the newest telegram from the Kremlin, discussing and commenting on the new broadcast from Gens Romae. The Admiral nodded.

"Tell them that the request is denied for the moment, but not to fret, their departure will be secured as soon as possible. Also, Admiral Zimmerov" he said, turning to the commander of the Imperial Superfleet.

"Yes, Marko?"

"Please begin mobilization, and move into position a few klicks off the Island of Hope. Tsar Xavier has given me full discretion in the handling of the situation. I intend on exercising that discretion. Once the mobilization is complete, send message to the Aerie that they may link up with the Superfleet."

"Aye, sir."
Cravan
20-07-2007, 21:16
OOC: I know this is a tad late, but for future reference there are numerous popes RPed and recognized by various sub-sects of Catholicism here on NS.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Roman_Catholicism
Atheistz
20-07-2007, 21:17
The President of The Armed Republic of Atheistz overhears this in his office while multitasking between singing a document Enabling Further Human Gene alternative researching and handing important documents to his secretary.

The President looks to the radio, without regard to the pointlessness of this and cringes at the words.

He swiftly takes out a file and opens up a program on his Computer.

Document Regarding and for Fr. Sean Fitzgerald

For far too long have you been contaminating the minds of my people with your broadcasts, since the beginning of your speeches several of my citizens have turned to christianity, and regretfully i had to ship them off my Nation. This was to be kept secret, and naturally.. everyone knows. My people are tuning into your speeches of Lies and Deceit, and We True Atheists Will not stand for this ! We do not recognize your 'Church Laws' here, and when my Nation is threatened with this brainwashing and the foundations of our society are battered, we predictably will take action.
'Why not ban it' You may ask? This would spark off curiousity and more people would be drawn to tune in to your speeches of lies. We will take military action against you if you do not limit your Station to your own region and not worldwide.

With this, the President sends it to his secretary with instructions to wire it onto the Father in question.


OOC: Hey if this is silly then ignore it, im new to NationStates so be kind =D Im trying my best.
The Ivory Jaguar
20-07-2007, 21:18
The Peoples of the Ivory Jaguar find the attempt by Gens Romae, and the presumably supported attempts by factions therein to exercise authority over foreign nationals, and to an even greater degree, the blatant attempt to have prominent religious figures who criticize the religious practices of Gens Romae killed, deeply disturbing. Considering that said religious figure of Cherry Ridge belong to the same religion that the citizens of Gens Romae who are responsible for these attempts profess to belong to, and that the majority religion of The Peoples of the Ivory Jaguar is radically different, it is felt that the practices of Gens Romae and the aforementioned citizens thereof in this matter indicate a direct threat to the national sovereignity and to the safety and security of the citizens of The Peoples of the Ivory Jaguar.

The Imperator of Gens Romae, and the citizens of the same should therefore be informed that continuing on their present course may result in the Peoples of The Ivory Jaguar acting to secure the safety of her citizens

~Phenex, Warlord and Consul of The Island and The Peoples of the Ivory Jaguar
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/5518/talonsc9.png
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 21:28
OOC: I know this is a tad late, but for future reference there are numerous popes RPed and recognized by various sub-sects of Catholicism here on NS.

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Roman_Catholicism

OOC: Thanks man. I was trying to post that for him before, but the link was not working. Thanks again.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 21:29
ViZion is prepared to send our troops and supplies to guard the Cardinal and Fitzgerald. A ViZionarian on vacation within Cherry Ridge has notified us after hearing of Farmlands Inc's paying for the heads of the listed.

Please notify us immediately.
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 21:36
The President of The Armed Republic of Atheistz overhears this in his office while multitasking between singing a document Enabling Further Human Gene alternative researching and handing important documents to his secretary.

The President looks to the radio, without regard to the pointlessness of this and cringes at the words.

He swiftly takes out a file and opens up a program on his Computer.

Document Regarding and for Fr. Sean Fitzgerald

For far too long have you been contaminating the minds of my people with your broadcasts, since the beginning of your speeches several of my citizens have turned to christianity, and regretfully i had to ship them off my Nation. This was to be kept secret, and naturally.. everyone knows. My people are tuning into your speeches of Lies and Deceit, and We True Atheists Will not stand for this ! We do not recognize your 'Church Laws' here, and when my Nation is threatened with this brainwashing and the foundations of our society are battered, we predictably will take action.
'Why not ban it' You may ask? This would spark off curiousity and more people would be drawn to tune in to your speeches of lies. We will take military action against you if you do not limit your Station to your own region and not worldwide.

With this, the President sends it to his secretary with instructions to wire it onto the Father in question.


OOC: Hey if this is silly then ignore it, im new to NationStates so be kind =D Im trying my best.

Reply from Father Sean Fitzgerald:

For a nation which professes to have advanced past religion, they apparently have not advanced to the point whree they can block out broadcasts.

Reply from the Marechal Charles Francis d'Orlean
Mr. President,
I have been instructed by my Monarch to handle this matter. If military action is taken, your nation will be subject to the wrath of the entire Greater Prussian Empire. Father Fitzgerald was speaking out against atrocities commited in the name of God, such as the inquisition commited by the leaders of Gens Romae. It would appear to me that they are more of a threat to you than a priest with no governmental authority.

Marechal Charles Francis d'Orlean, Commander of the Soli Deo Gloria Division of the Imperial Guard of the Greater Prussian Empire, Commandant of the Office for Internal Security, and Senator for the State of Carmel
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 21:38
ViZion is prepared to send our troops and supplies to guard the Cardinal and Fitzgerald. A ViZionarian on vacation within Cherry Ridge has notified us after hearing of Farmlands Inc's paying for the heads of the listed.

Please notify us immediately.

President Kilo,
At this time, we do not beleive that extra security will be necessary. OIS officers have been placed on guard for both men. Should further action be needed, we will not hesitate to call on Vizion.

We thank our Vizionarian brothers.

Marechal Orlean, Commandant of the Office for Internal Security
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 21:48
President Kilo,
At this time, we do not beleive that extra security will be necessary. OIS officers have been placed on guard for both men. Should further action be needed, we will not hesitate to call on Vizion.

We thank our Vizionarian brothers.

Marechal Orlean, Commandant of the Office for Internal Security
Marechal Orlean,

Just let it be known that ViZon is prepared to send some of its Marines in to protect both of them.

Thank you,

President Kilo
Atheistz
20-07-2007, 22:05
Reply to Father Sean Fitzgerald -

You think i have not thought of that, Priest? Curiousity does strange things to the mind, no?
The people of my nation are Atheist's, who seek truth and think rationally. Now, would you not think by blocking your broadcasts it would spark a great amount of curiousity and the tabloids would fill the headlines with consipiracy Theorys?
If not, I shall pity your stupidity.

Reply to Marechal Charles Francis d'Orlean

Answer me this, why would some Pshychotic Christians be a threat to me? These killings would not have happened if there was no religion, If you would see through the lies and deceit that the Church has built around you.
Could you not limit your broadcasting to your own nation and avoid a conflict? I speak for all of my citizens when i say that such speeches would be fine as long as they stick to condemning those Phsychotic Christians instead of rambling on about 'Only god is to Judge'.

We ask you to Limit your broadcasts because if, I myself do it.. Well, look to the Priests Letter. If you do it, the curiousity will die down. Noone will suspect the government wrongly and all shall be well.

P.s We are not Frightened by your Empire's army, and we stand by what we said, We will take military actions if you do not stop the broadcasts on our region.

OOC: Thanks guys for this roleplaying opportunity, im a bit rusty =D
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 22:17
Mr. President,

I will not restrict the people's right to broadcast as they please. In a free society, the right to free speech is a right t be shared by all, as long as it does not harm others. All nations in the Greater Prussian Empire are free societies, and outside forces will not silence our people.

Charles Orlean, Commandant of Internal Security

Secret IC:
All Ridgian defence systems have been activated, and the Dersconi government, and all Prussian nations, have been alerted. All reserves have been called to active duty, and the Home Guard is being mobilized.


OOC: No problem.
Brutland and Norden
20-07-2007, 22:31
May the Peace of the Lord be with you all.

It has come to our attention that Father Sean Fitzgerald of Cherry Ridge is being pressured by some other elements within the Church by virtue of some of his statements (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12890460&postcount=1).

These actions by these other elements are unacceptable and does not reflect true Christian values and ideals. Intolerance has no place in the world and we, of all people, should not be the ones promoting it.

As such, we deem the reinstitution of the unorthodox Inquisition to be contradictory to our Catholic and Christian beliefs. The Roman Catholic Church of Brutland and Norden commends and fully supports Father Fitzgerald. We would be following the events closely and pray for a good conclusion to the issue.

Thank you.
Rev. Fr. Gennaro Mazzucchelli, D.D., S.J.
Bishop of Pannondrio
Chairman, Conference of the Catholic Bishops of Brutland and Norden

Most Rev. Fr. Inazio Cardinal Mondragone, D.D.
Archbishop of Kingsville
Primate of Brutland and Norden
Atheistz
20-07-2007, 22:34
The President reads through the letter and stares down at his desk.

He picks up several files and shuffles them into their proper piles. He rises from the chair and takes a walk around his office.

Looking across the room he sees the line of Previous Presidents and the Nation's Motto.

'Progress, Or be Left Behind'

He feels a brief surge of energy and flicks the phone off the hook and brings it to his mouth.

'Get me Commander Dravius' Says the President, slightly over Enthusiastic.

'Good Evening Mr. President, What can i do for you'

'I Require yours services, i am sending you the sent and received letters to and from the Greater Prussian Empire and a recording of the Radio Stations latest speech'

He gently sets down the phone and takes a seat in his Chair.

His attention is immediately gripped by the now ringing Phone and he picks it up hastily.

'I am up to date with the matter, what are you orders?' Exclaims the Commander, with a slight tone of Bewilderment.

The President smiles at this and lowers his mouth to the phone slowly,

'Send several armed scouts, In the form of Arial and Naval Machines. I want all intelligence from The size of its Military to it's current Military Status.'

'It shall be done' With this, the line goes dead, the president takes a seat on his chair and awaits the news.

OOC: Im off for the night, Cheers again.
imported_ViZion
20-07-2007, 22:35
Cherry Ridge,

It has come to our attention that a small nation has threatened you. While we see no need to offer aid, or even mobilize, with his threat of attack - we are sure you can handle him with ease - please feel free to alert us should more nations choose to take up arms against you, and we will prepare ourselves in your defense.

President Kilo
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 22:53
Most Reverend Bishops,

I thank you for your support, as does my Archbishop. Those trying to undo the Council will not be succede.

God Bless,

Rev. Sean Fitzgerald
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 22:55
Cherry Ridge,

It has come to our attention that a small nation has threatened you. While we see no need to offer aid, or even mobilize, with his threat of attack - we are sure you can handle him with ease - please feel free to alert us should more nations choose to take up arms against you, and we will prepare ourselves in your defense.

President Kilo

President Kilo,

It appears that I am assigned permanently to handle these cases by the government. I thank you for your support and will not hesitate to call on you for aide.

Marechal Charles d'Orlean
Cherry Ridge
20-07-2007, 23:10
'Send several armed scouts, In the form of Arial and Naval Machines. I want all intelligence from The size of its Military to it's current Military Status.'

"Marechal Orlean," a young aide said, "Their are reports of some sort of ariel unit entering Prussian air space." Orlean nodded, "I want air patrols over the coast, and out over open waters. Ground all outgoing flights for the time being, and on all incoming flgihts, every passenger and every piece of luggage is to be searched. I want the local police forces to be on patrol, and the OIS will handle the bigger matters." The aide saluted, "Yes sir."

As he walked away, Orlean called, "Lieutenant?" The man turned around, "Yes, sir?" Orlean continued, "Contact the Dersconis. Their naval base would be in that area too. Tell them to patrol the skies and keep an eye out as well." The man saluted again, "Yes, Sir!"

He turned to another aide, "Activate all missile systems. I want them ready to launch."
----

Over the sea, hoardes of fighters began their patrols. Antiair defence systems were activated. Anything even approaching Ridgian shores would, in all probability, be blown out of the air."
Gens Romae
21-07-2007, 00:38
Official Telegram from the Imperator of Rome to the Atheist State:

Let it be known that, if there is absolutely any move to attack Cherry Ridge from your state, that you will have the entire Roman Airborn Legions knocking on your borders. Please abstain from further threats against the same. While the State of Rome certainly is contrary to the actions of certain clergy condoned by the government of CR, CR is a fellow Catholic State, and attacking Her is as an attack on Us.

You have been warned,

Sextus Agustus
Imperator of Rome
Allanea
21-07-2007, 00:56
In the meanwhile, the Allaneans neither knew nor cared about the Atheistz. Even if they did know, they would not care. Instead, ‘rods from god’ satellites and observation satellites relocated over the Mediterranean, 50 strategic ‘Kestril’ ( http://z6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=2160&view=findpost&p=1581937 ) stealth bombers were diverted on the path to that nation, and, of course, the various ships were slowly, but surely, on their way.
Rosdivan
21-07-2007, 01:00
Just an OOC note, but any ships or aircraft approaching within 50 miles of my border (Greater Prussian Empire nation) will be shot down/sunk.
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 01:08
As the Arial Unit of pick up speed ahead of the Naval Unit, they deploy their weaponry and radar.

The Arial Unit slows down to Half-Speed and dives down just above the water.
The Leader of the Unit looks to the sky and regards at how dusty the sky is.

'Must be a Desert Country' He speaks into his mouth piece.

He orders the unit to form a scattered line and advance at a high speed and gain a slight altitude. Just then several large splashes occur to right of them. Looking up to the sky he notices a hail of Yellow flashes hailing down upon them.

'That isn't Dust.. Those are Planes !' Screams a young captain.

The Leader of the Unit issues commands to the team.

'Brave Two Zero, Fall Back until you can get a signal to the Naval Unit, Inform them of the mass Arial Units they have and tell them to wire the recording to the Commander'

'Alpha Zero Zero Nine, Give him some cover'

'Roger that'

With this Brave Two Zero slows his engine and makes a sharp turn to the left whilst Alpha Zero Zero Nine slowly maneuvers his Jet into the air Several hundred feet above Brave.

'Team, Fall behind me and take firing positions'

A Small amount of voices acknowledge this command and take their positions behind the Leader.

They slowly edge their noses upwards towards the Mass Fleet and begin pelting their bottoms with High Calibar Bullets.

Several of the enemy Explode in flames whilst a small amount simply crash land into the water.

The Empire swings its nose downwards and fires off Heavy Missles which smack into the cockpits and engines of the Small Unit.

Whilst the scraps of metal slam into the water, Brave Two Zero comes into distance of the Naval Unit and passes the information to it. The Captain of the Vessels wires it to the Commander who then passes it onto the President.

Secret Ic:

'Our scouts have been destroyed and we have reports of Arial Units thats Triple our entire Nation !' Roars the Commander.

'Calm down, I understand. Call back the Naval Fleet and postpone all military actions against the Country, place all Patrols on Red alert, Meanwhile i'll make some calls' Calmly speaks the president.

He sets down the phone, Orders his secretary to get him a coffee and Telegrams several Allies.

OOC: Sorry for controlling your fleet there :S I saw it neccesary cause i really gotta go to bed now, and no harm done to your Naval Fleet, part from 3 or 4 deaths. Night Dude. Also If you destroy my nation or something, can i continue roleplaying another story without any changes? Cheers
Cherry Ridge
21-07-2007, 01:46
OOC: No problem with controlling the fleet this time. As for the other part, I wouldn't do anything too drastic anyway, as I am not that concerned. Your president may be wanted for murder, and since I don't think you named him, it may not be a big deal.

IC:
Marechal Orlean smiled to himself, An act against Prussian honor not to be taken lightly.

Just then, a radio crackled, "Sir, ariel unit destroyed, naval vessels spotted." Orlean quickly replied, "I will alert the Dersconis. They should be able to cut off their ships, and arrest the entire crew. Have two squadrons continue patrols, the rest, resume wartime patrols." A clear, "Yes, sir" came over the radio. Orlean smiled.
---
My esteemed Dersconi brothers,
Athiestz ships approaching Prussian waters. I request that you arrest the crews, and intern them in the proper place.

God save the Empire!

Charles d'Orlean
---
From a missile site in the north of Cherry Ridge, in the middle of a large field, the earth opened up in one place. A lone conventional missile streaked up, then over the ocean, heading towards Athiestz's capital's governmental district. It was not a particularly strong weapon, but it would wake the citizenry up. At the same time, broadcasts were made into the nation:
Attention Citizens of Athiestz! Your government is at work attacking other nations. Your president is wanted for murder. Please turn him over. Footage of the vessels and debris from the planes was shown, and all messages recieved from the Atheistz government were read in the broadcast.
The Crystal Mountains
21-07-2007, 01:50
Commonwealth of the Crystal Mountains

Situation Room, Commonwealth Combined Headquarters

Senior Minister James did not wait to sit as was his custom to start the meeting. He entered the Situation Room somewhat out of breath and simply asked, "What is the status of the Gens Romae, Cherry Ridge affair."

The assembled Ministers and Military officers looked at each other as if perplexed.

The only personage there that dared to actually smoke in the situation room spoke up, "Minister James, I think we can excuse the hesitation of your staff as they simply don't know where to start."

Minister James stood, somewhat astonished, and approached the newcomer to the table. "Well Darragh Whelan*, as I live and breath!" He shook the hand of the stranger and slapped him on the shoulder. "How are you laddie. I thought you were on assignment."

"I was recalled for this party Ritchie boy-o. It looks like it could get ugly fast." The Commander of the Badgers offered the Senior Minister a ciggerette from a small silver case.

The Senior Minister took it and Commander Whelan lite it for him. "If the uther ladies and gentlemen are at a loss as to where to start, I suggest General Kincade start."

General Kincade said, "We retasked a survalence satellite to the conflict region and we've seen some rather disturbing signs. A carrier with a small escort has put to sea from from an Allanean port and is steaming towards Gens Romae. There are heat plumes in the engineering spaces of a sizable group of ships in the same port and signs that at least two carrier battle groups, maybe more, are getting under way. The Dersconi's also appear to be putting to sea."

Kincade asked, "What do we know about that carrier and why is it putting to sea with such a small battle group? This group sprinted out and now it appears to be holding station."

Foreign Minister Richard Fleming answered, "We know vey little about Allanea. They are an old, established goverenment but they are quite distant and we've had no dealings with them."

Admiral Jenkins speculated, "I'll bet you a weeks pay that is an anti-sub sweeper force in advance of the main group. They probably have some attack subs working with the carrier group to clean up any subs that may be prowling those waters. "

General Kincade continued, "We've seen further disturbing evidence that general mobilization and/or a change of readiness is occuring in a number of states in the region. Both of the primaries appear to be at high alert. SigInt (Signals Intelligence) has heard that a Gens Roma company has put a price of 10,000,000 Denarios, whatever that is, on the head of Cardinal Marco and Fr. Fitzgerald."

Senior Minister James said, "World War I began with the assasination of a Duke. Might WWIII begin with the assasination of a Cardinal and a Preist? Umm... I asked that we get an opinion on this from our local Arch-Diosicese. Our local church is soundly in Father Fitzgerald's camp."

"Here is the opinion of Cardinal Murphy here in Port Charles:" This is a very difficult issue. In a nutshell, Gens Romae is asserting powers of the Vatican that have not been exercised since the Middle Ages. What Cardinal Marco asserts is that the Vatican II conclave allows dissent against church policy. In a sense, both parties are right but the balance goes to Cherry Ridge because of Vatican II. If however, the Pope strikes down Vatican II and the congress of Cardinals approves Vatican II being overturned, then Gens Romae will have the upper hand in the argument.

The opinion of the local dioceses is that Cardinal Marko and Father Fitzgerald are, as of this time, not at odds with doctrine and therefore should not face Papal dicipline.

James turned and asked, "Miss Reid, what does Special Branch think about local consequences if Cardinal Marco or father Fitzgerald were killed?"

Miss Susan Reid looked uncomfortable. "Sir, we just don't know. We saw protests, albiet peaceful ones when this situation came into public notice. We know that the vast majority of our Catholics are Pro-Fitzgerald. I would predict more and angrier protests and serious political consequences."

Senior Minister James asked, "Serious political consequences?"

Reid said, "The people will want justice for the death of a Preist who is acting on his conscious and they won't be patient about it."

James nodded grimly and paused. "On to our next order of business? What did I hear about a massive hurricane..."
____________________________________

* literally Gaelic for: Darragh=oak, Whelan=wolf

OOC: Note that in the absence of intelligence and using satellite data, some of the characters drew incorrect conclusions. Good RP on my part, perhaps confusing to the reader but such is the nature of war: mass confusion, bad conclusions and shaky intelligence.
Allanea
21-07-2007, 02:05
OOC: TCM, the carrier is taking to sea from a Dersconi port, so are it's two escorts. The Allanean carrier battle groups that will later meet up ARE howere coming from Allanea.
Cherry Ridge
21-07-2007, 02:22
Excerpt from Romanist Ravings
Radio Program, Host, Father Sean Fitzgerald
Today, instead of our normal programming, we will be broadcasting live from in front of the Royal Palace, where Father Sean is leading a protest against the missile strike on Athiestz. You may watch this protest live on CRNN or from our live feed online.
----
Gates of the Royal Palace. Royal Guardsmen are looking on from behind the gate, wheras OIS officers are at the perimeter of the group.

Father Fitzgerald stood on top of a makeshift stage, a platform, covered in a white cloth. Dressed in a short sleaved clerical shirt, his collar undone, he screams into the microphone, "How many times have I said on my program that we can not solve violence with violence! Why is it that even our own leaders fail to listen to our pleas for peace! When will this madness stop? We are gathered here today to protest violence commited by all people, anybody. To those listening in Atheistz, I apologize for my governments attacks on you. If anyone in Gens Romae is listening, somehow, I want you to know that I forgive the Archbishop. Archbishop! If you are also listening know that I forgive you! Know that I will continue to pray for you, and continue to ask God for you to stop the violence!"

Amidst cheers, the priest descended the steps to shake hands, while a folk group appeared on stage, and began to play Blowing in the Wind and One Tine Soldier. The protest continued throughout the day and into the night. Countless people attended the protest.
New Brittonia
21-07-2007, 03:08
NBBC News- World

The Catholic church has decided to excommunicate Fr. Sean Firzgerald to much uproar in Brittonia.

Today, over 30,000 people have came to Epsom to protest not only the excommunication of Fr. Fitzgerald but the "barbaric" punishmenmt on him. That is, if he returns to Rome, all Romans are encouraged to kill him.

http://www.dominionpaper.ca/files/dominion-img/protests-beirut.preview.jpg
Protests in Epsom City

'We will welcome Fr. Fitzgerald as a religious and political refugee, if he decides to leave from Cherry Ridge. Secondly, we are now officially adding the nation of Gens Romane to the New Brittonian Foreign Ministry's Human Rights Watchlist.", said Foreign Minister Sarah Lynch

Fr. Fitzgerald's radio broadcast, once unknown, has became the number one downloaded podcast overnight, with translations now available in French, German, Arabic, Yiddish, Hindi, Russian, and Sanscrit.

New Brittonian Broadcasting Corporation Radio, our sister corporation, is considering to place Fr. Fitzgerald's radio show on one of its stations, and possibly a contract will be given if he decides to resde here.

The Cardinal of Epsom refused to coment on these matters.
Derscon
21-07-2007, 04:03
Dersconi Waters, off the Island of Hope

HMS Appolyon

The Appolyon was not a single ship designation, per se: Whichever ship that was currently the flagship of the Superfleet took the designation Appolyon. The current holder was a Seraphim-class Ultracarrier, based off the Arkhangel II that is currently in use in most fleets (which was upgraded from the original seven Arkhangel-class ultracarriers, of which one -- the HMS St. Michael, was then sold to the Sisters of Liberty.)

The Appolyon was effectively an small task force, in one ship. It contained two complete flight decks, a VTOL deck, a command tower, and an ungodly huge amount of CIWS and AAA systems. It also had its own array of missile barrages. The most interesting thing about it, though, was that -- through the intricate hydraulics of the ultracarrier -- could combine the three flight decks into one massive flight deck, as well as raise extensions, as to be able to land strategic bombers for resupply and refuelling purposes.

Naturally, as is typical with anything like this, it rarely saw combat, considering it was in the middle of the Superfleet. Most things died way before they ever got past the Forward Force. In other words, the ship, like the fleet, was fucking huge.

Which is why it was used as a flagship, and why Imperial Admiral Yuri Zimmerov was currently in the Commander's office, overlooking the waters.

It's been a long time, he thought, since I've set out for real combat. He turned around and looked at his current orders, sighing, when the message from CIC came up.

"Sir, The Aerie of the Lord is currently linking up with the Superfleet." Admiral Zimmerov turned around and saw the old Arkhangel class carrier, now decorated, and rose an eyebrow.

"Heh. The HMS Saint Michael." My old flagship, he thought, reminiscing. He picked up the comm and patched through to the Aerie.

"Captain Victoria, this is Imperial Admiral Yuri Zimmerov. Welcome to the Superfleet. You'll be travelling with us until we near Gens Romae, in which case you'll be splitting off and, I suppose, doing your own thing. Oh, and one more thing: the Aerie, as you now call her, will serve you well. She and I go way back. Put her to good use, it's nice to see that she still has some fight left in her."
Cherry Ridge
21-07-2007, 04:32
-Snip-


Father Fitzgerald wishes to clarify that his does not reside in Gens Romae, but in Cherry Ridge. He criticized the Gens Romae Church for continuing their inquisition. Father Fitzgerald's Archbishop, Cardinal Joseph Marco, and the Church in Cherry Ridge do not recognize the excommunication as valid. He continues to function as pastor of Old Saint Mary's Church in South Carmel.

He thanks the New Brittonians for their support and sends his blessings.
New Brittonia
21-07-2007, 04:40
Father Fitzgerald wishes to clarify that his does not reside in Gens Romae, but in Cherry Ridge. He criticized the Gens Romae Church for continuing their inquisition. Father Fitzgerald's Archbishop, Cardinal Joseph Marco, and the Church in Cherry Ridge do not recognize the excommunication as valid. He continues to function as pastor of Old Saint Mary's Church in South Carmel.

He thanks the New Brittonians for their support and sends his blessings.

Fixed, and the contract and the place to live in Brittonia are still valid.
Pschycotic Pschycos
21-07-2007, 05:57
OFFICIAL IMPERIAL ANNOUNCEMENT

Despite being a largely Protestant nation, I have seen fit to keep my mouth shut and turn the other cheek, much as Christ has taught his followers. However, I now see a price being put on the head of a respected and educated man, simply for teaching tolerance and speaking out against barbaric ignorance.

In addition, a second nation has felt that, rather than block broadcasts, it would be fitting to send military units in near Cherry Ridge.

Let me make myself clear on this issue:

Gens Romae: If this man is killed by anyone who was provoked by your offer, I will be forced to declare full, all out, and total war on your government until you are disposed of. We will not wait to help your citizens recover, and we will not "be careful" in our targetting. Therefore, for the saftey of your nation and your citizens, I would hope, if I were you, that this man is not killed.

Atheistz: Military units of your nation have already engaged and dealt damage to forces under Greater Prussian jurisdiction. I currently would have full authority to declare war on you immediately. However, I will currently refrain from doing so. But, let me be perfectly clear that I will use all the Shogunate's military assets to defend Cherry Ridge up to and including the point of an invasion to ensure that this sort of even never happens again.

I am ordering the mobilization of the Fleet Command Ship, ICS Kraken under the command of Grande Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto III to the area to support defense efforts. Do not test my patience or resolve.

Sincerely,
Shogun Nakamura Taiki
Shogun of the Imperial Shogunate of Pschycotic Pschycos


OOC:I'll put out a description of the Kraken later on in a separate post. However, for the mean time, it's large enough to replace a whole fleet. (Yes, in the big dick competition, this is way over compensation :P)
Derscon
21-07-2007, 06:18
Dersconi Naval Command, Island of Hope

"Sir, we have confirmed reports of Atheistz planes coming into Greater Prussian airspace." Marko Herkjyavich looked at the reports and the diagrams. At that point, he received the message from Orlean, and smirked.

"Annihilate the fleet, save the flagship. Scramble the bombers and the fighters at Sophia Citadel, and use ATLANTIS and the submarine task forces to remove the ships."

"Aye, sir."
___________________________________________

Greater Prussian Exclusive Economic Zone

Greater Prussia covers a lot of space, even on the ocean. First, it's the ten miles of each nation's territorial waters. Then, it's the ten miles of Greater Prussian territorial waters. From there, it's the two hundred mile Exclusive Economic Zone, which everyone seems to forget about.

Throughout the territorial waters, there are various islands. Near the edge of the Prussian Territorial waters lies the Island of Hope, Derscon's large island, and headquarters of Naval Command, and where one of the largest military bases in the nation, Sophia Citadel, was located.

It was from Sophia Citadel where fighters and bombers were scrambled and sent off to the Atheistz ships. At this point, it was irrelevant whether they were inside the GPEEZ or in international waters -- their planes entered territorial waters, ergo, they committed an act of war.

Undersea, several fast attack submarines, as well as missile submarines were sent over towards the Atheistz fleet, but keeping quiet, as to not tip off the Atheistz SONAR.

It was not expected that they would need any more warships, but, if worst came to worst, the Superfleet could always make a detour.

TO: Atheistz Fleet
FROM: Dersconi Naval Command

You have committed an act of war against the Greater Prussian
Empire. This will be dealt with accordingly. You have one
chance, and one chance only. Surrender now,
and you will not be harmed in any way.
You will deactivate all weapons systems,
ground all aircraft,
and call in all submarines.
You will then allow a contingent of Dersconi Imperial Marines
to board your vessels and escort the crews and the officers
to Sophia Citadel. The ships will not be destroyed,
but held in position inside Prussian Territorial Waters.
I repeat, surrender now, and no harm shall come to anyone.
Failure to comply, however, will result in your complete
and utter
annihilation.
It's your choice.
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 11:00
'I Understand' Spoke the President to the Commander before sighing deeply.

He walked over to his seat and swung it around so as to look at the Tall arched windows.

His Allies had backed out and the few who truely cared only granted that he would not be harmed within the region. As if that wasn't bad enough the scouts had been destroyed, his honour hurt, His citizens in an uproar, his Naval Ships now threatened and now Several large countries have came to defend Cherry Ridge.

He'd been keeping up to date with the Priest, having been grateful for his Anti-War Protest and Apologizing, this calmed the President down greatly, but so had his people.

He rubbed his temples for a moment, took a deep breath and picked up the phone to his secretary.

'Emily, I need you to contact the Commander, tell him to allow the Naval Ships to surrender and to come in to contact with Cherry Ridge's Leader, Inform him that we will withdraw our forces and will be sending Diplomats to the country to negotiate peace. Get into contact with the SS also.' He caught his breath and was about to continue when Emily Interrupted.

'Sir, The SS?'

'Yes, The Secret Service.. Yes, Tell them to sweep the city of Christians and ship them off of here, get them to block all transmissions of Chrisitan radio stations except for my Office. Monitor the channels incase someone gets too curious at which stage you are to inform the Police Department who will issue a 300 Golden Coin Fine.'

'Yes Sir'

'I want it announced to the people that we have withdrew our forces and will see fit our people are protected, and for any queries please address the Human Resources Team.'

The President gripped a small cup filled with Coffee and walked to the sink to empty it. He filled it instead with cool tap water and took several refreshing sips whilst Rubbing his Forehead. Progress shall wait.
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 11:29
OOC: Sorry for the double Post

Just as Emily is about to get to work on the subjects, The Phone begins to ring. The President tells her to wait and he swiftly picks up the phone.

'Hello Mr President' said the voice with a slight concern in his voice.

'Good Evening, Who is speaking?'

'The Leader of the Consitutional Kingdom of of Haivania' Replied the voice.

'I am most honoured to hear from you. I suppose you have been kept up to date?'

OOC again: If you could continue on here Haivania ;D
Haivania
21-07-2007, 12:11
"You, step out of here, it's none of your bussiness; yet", shouted the PM on the other line, before answering to the leader of The Armed Republic of Atheistz. "We are here to assist you; you are on our side and it is our duty to defend you"

"Do not give up that easily", said in a hurry before the PM lighted up his cigar. " I am waiting for your reply; you know, these calls are expensive".
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 12:14
Hearing the words of the Prime Minister calmed him oddly and he heard the burn of what sounded like a Cigar.

'I see you still haven't got off those old things' replied the President humourously.

'So what do you suggest' Added the President before asking his secratary for a new pot of Coffee.
Haivania
21-07-2007, 12:19
"Well, i need information about your situation", said the PM while looking out of the window. "What an ugly tree", he added to his secretary, who was standing terrified in front of the PM's desk. "Burn it", he concluded.
"How is your nation standing there?", asked the PM while his face was lighted by a fire outside the window. "I have sadly to inform you that my position remains neutral so far", he added.
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 12:27
'Burn it? Wha..' Began the President but instead decided to get straight to the point.

'Heres the deal, I noticed large amounts of my citizens turning to Christianity, because of a radio station, something i could not allow, so i had to take action. After several warnings and the such i decided to declare war. I could have blocked the Radio but that would spark curiousity and you know how youths are these days..' At this point the President took a sip of the Coffee and Juggled it in his mouth before continuing.

'I Sent over several scouts and naval ships to find information on them, It turns out they were a step ahead and wrecked our Scouts, Except for two, One of which carried a message back to the naval fleet of the Mass Arial Units they had. I guess the enemy caught up with them, Destroyed the Planes and are currently threatening my Naval ships to Surrender or be destroyed.'
The President ran his hand through his hair and gave a sigh.
Haivania
21-07-2007, 12:35
"Ahh...you always have to put your hand somewhere...", said the PM in despare. "But i am curious, you are in a civil war or in an international event?", asked in frustration. "I have to ne informed with what we will be dealing with. I mean, i have a powerful Navy, which includes a carrier but my Air Force is something to be embarrased of. My Army is no use to us, so i will make it protect my borders.", quicly the PM informed the other leader. "We are here, don't worry", he added before sneezing twice.
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 12:42
'It is an international event' Replied the President Briskly. Many have come to the aid of Cherry Ridge whilst i stood alone, well.. Until now.' Added the President hastily.

He flicked through his computer files somewhat distracted before continuing.

'This conflict has been spread quickly, I see its on several countries News Pages'
Just as he said this the Secratary came over with a file requesting the go-ahead for cloning on small mammals.

He signed it and swung on his chair to look out the window waiting for an answer.
Haivania
21-07-2007, 13:00
"Well, i will hav..", the PM sneezed again. "I am sorry, this damn dust got me", he whispered in anger. "You", he pointed to his secretary, "you are fired. Before you go, inform the King of our situation. Thank you", he added and returned back to his call. "I will have a look at the reports and i will answer you as soon as possible", he informed the President of The Armed Republic of Atheistz. Before hanging up, he sneezed three times. While he was trying to hang up, his eyes started crying and he continued to sneez until he dropped the phone on the floor. "You blood....", he sneezed once more, "...damn you...."
Atheistz
21-07-2007, 13:12
On the other side of the phone he hear the violent sneezes and muttering.

'He.. Hello?' Asked the President into the Phone.

Shit.
He phoned several secrataries in the Prime Ministers building and asked them to check on him.

He rose from his chair and paced around the room.

'Just my luck' Said the President.
Haivania
21-07-2007, 18:07
He sneezed one more time and then he anxiously raised the phone. He dialed and waited for that repsonse.

"This is the President's office", answered a kind, woman voice.
"This is the PM of Haivania, i urgently need to speek with him", said the PM furiously.
"I am afraid he is absent for now"
"I'll be damn. Please tell him to call me as soon as possbile. Before that, tell him to withdraw his battleships but note that he must not resign the war. I believe it is already over."
Pschycotic Pschycos
22-07-2007, 04:08
The people of the port city of Neo-Nagasaki always felt that they lost a portion of their harbour and skyline whenever the Kraken was deployed. The reality of the situation was that this was the truth. The ship was large enough to blend into the maze of towers in the city, and represented a whole chunk. She sported an astonishing four flight decks, 27 forward facing 30" main railcannon turrets, 27 aft, 64 10" high-angle turrets, rocket batteries, missile decks, and enough CIWS and AAA to form a solid lead wall to either side of the ship.

So, it was to great regret that the ship left the port, barely clearing all port gates and the sea-bed itself. The ship, and her escort of 2 dreadnaughts and 4 destroyers, was commanded by Grande Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto III. Among naval men, he was the top dog. He had started as an ensign and worked his way up the ranks, commanding every type of ship immaginable. His tactical mind was sheer genius, developing fleet maneuvers that had won him and the navy practically every engagement. With a fleet, he could wield it like a finely honed instrument. Now, however, his fleet was shrunk down into one ship. As they left for Cherry Ridge, a little more than a day away, he was excited to see what he could do. Especially if he linked up with his old friend, Admiral Zimmerov and the Superfleet.


OOC: More later undoubtedly, but now, I'm tired as all hell :P
Derscon
22-07-2007, 05:55
Dersconi Naval Command

"Sir, we've received word for Fourth Directorate MSS that there have been communications between the fleet and the Government of Atheistz, and then from GoA to Haivania. Unfortunately, we have not been able to decipher the exact wording, but several analysts have predicted that Haivania may be voicing support for Atheistz, but Haivania's degree of support is unknown." Marko Rekjyavich looked up.

"But that's all speculation?" The aide nodded.

"Yes, sir. At the moment, it's just speculation." Marko sighed.

"We can't declare war, or frankly, do much of anything to anyone, based on mere speculation. Monitor Haivania, but we will do nothing. Now, onto more pressing issues, namely, why the hell hasn't the Atheistz fleet responded to us?"

"Fourth Directorate thinks it's because they haven't been given approval, because Haivania is trying to convince them not to." Marko hid his face in his hands.

"And that's all speculation?" He said, somewhat irritated.

"...Yes, sir." Grand Imperial Admiral Rekjyavich sighed. Where is my nephew when I need him? he said, thinking of John.

"Tell ATLANTIS Control that it is to prepare to fire, and I want the Atheistz Fleet to understand that they cannot win."

"Yessir."
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Airgroup 02636
Leaving Citadel Station

"We are approaching target destination, over."

"Roger that. Arm weapons."

"Quite. Everyone knows orders and target. Maintain radio silence."
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School 0256

The small group of fast attack and missile submarines quietly made their way closer to the Atheistz fleet, slow enough that the timing would be right as to the rendezvous with the Dersconi Air Group. They had a time-schedule, and if they weren't called off before time ran out, they were instructed to unleash their missiles and torpedoes at every ship in the fleet, coupled with the simultaneous launch of the ATS missiles on board some of the fighters, as well as the bombers and their payload.

They had their targets, they had their time-frame. There was no need to communicate.
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TO: ATHEISTZ FLEET
FROM: DERSCONI NAVAL COMMAND

The lack of response is suspicious in discomforting. I will
remind you that, right now, you are fully targeted for the
total annihilation of your fleet.
A response is expected, and I trust you will do the
intelligent thing and
surrender.
Patience is running thin, and time is running out. A lack of
response will be considered an
act of aggression and will be
dealt with by the
total annihilation of your fleet.
Do not make the wrong decision.
Haivania
22-07-2007, 06:52
"Sir, the Air Force of Derscon is approaching Atheistz's fleet", the new secretary informed the PM.
"Damn that Prussian Empire...", he waved his head with anger. "We can't just go on the offensive with such giants", he looked at his secretary sadly. "Call the General"
"Yes sir", the secretary replied and left the office quietly.

What the hell am i supposed to do? The King is an old fool, nothing else...he is only kept there because of the tradition...He thought and wished that he could say that in front of the King's face. After a few moments of silly imagination, he woke up to find himself sitting in front of a desk filled with paperwork, and behind that paperwork, there was the General standing.

The PM jumped from his sit.
"How did you get here so fast", he asked with surprise, "i thought you were in base 501".
"Well, not exactly sir", he took off his golden hat, "I was drinking coffee in the cafeteria", he finally added.
The PM looked at him. The situation was extremely hillareous. There was a war crisis and he was drinking coffee in the cafeteria!
"I'll be damn!", the PM finally spoke his mind.
"So, let's get to the point", the General whispered.
"Ok, i think you will find realy interesting what i want to say...", the PM's face was lighted.

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BlackHawks Royal Navy Headquarters

The Commander was reading the telegram. While he was reading it, his eyes became bigger and bigger until he found himself looking at a weird paper with surprise....

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S.A.H
Secret Agency of Haivania
Headquarters:

"Yes sir", replied a man to the other side. "Very well then", he said once more and hung up the phone.

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Somewhere in the air....

"Requesting permission to continue mission"
"Permission granted"
"Continuing North West to target", said the pilot. "9 hours to target".
"Roger that. Keep contact"
Haivania
22-07-2007, 07:07
Newsflash:

H.B.C: Haivanian Broadcasting Channel

It is the most terrifying thing to hear as we are being informed that the Royal Navy has been alerted and the nation's aircraft carrier is currently maintaining a steady course towards the national borders. Furthermore, the nation's massive battleships, which are often mistaken for inlands have secured a safe area somewhere South West of us. We also have reports that the SAH has also been notified of the situation. Everything remains to a hault while the PM will be shortly in contact with the leader of Derscon. We wait for further news.

OOC: This may sound stupid but it is just for fun right? Nothing with NS directly...right?
Cherry Ridge
22-07-2007, 16:28
"Marechal Orlean," a young aide rushed to him, "Reports from Halvania's national news channel reports Halvanian military activity." Orlean opened the transcript he handed him. "Damn it. Forward this to the Kremlin." The man rushed off quickly.

The transcript was forwarded to the RAMC, along with a note warning the Dersconi's to activate all Prussian defence systems.

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Attention all Airmen. Report to your base. I repeat, all airmen, report to your base. This is not a drill.

Sirens sounded at all airbases as the pilots rushed to their planes. Within minutes, air patrols began across Cherry Ridge. Anti-air systems were activated, as the fighters of the CRAF streaked across the skies, while a small armada of fighters aimed for the northwest.

Destroy any incoming military aircraft of Halvanian or Athiestz origin.

OOC: The whole game is for fun. I intended this to be a regular RP.
Pschycotic Pschycos
22-07-2007, 18:47
Inside the Kraken's Fleet Combat information Center later that night, an officer had run up to Admiral Yamamoto, who was bent over a large tactical display in the middle of the room. Bowing, he delivered his report, "Sir, Haivanian news stations have broadcasted a mobilization of their naval assets. Their battleships are setting up a secured area inside their waters, but a single carrier appears to be leaving their boundaries."

"Thank you, Lieutenant," the aged admiral replied. "Contact the bridge. Have them increase to Flank Speed immediately. This should lessen our remaining ETA to only 6 hours. Also, inform ATC, I want no fewer than four CAPs flying at a time. Have them assign two squadrons per CAP. I want it known that a single carrier will not work, and hopefully threaten them to back down."

"Aye, Sir!" replied the officer, who bowed again and rushed off to relay the admiral's orders. Less than a minute later, he could feel the ship increase speed as the MHD's hummed slightly louder. A half hour later, the squadrons began roaring off the flight decks below him, their afterburners lighting up the sky in front of the ship.
Haivania
22-07-2007, 20:08
The Commander of the Queen Aircraft Carrier was standing on the deck, watching the sun dive into the west. While he was lighting up his cigar, his First Officer arrived and looked at him sadly.

"What is with you leaders?", said the FO with a humorous tone, "you all smoke cigars".
The Commander showed a gentle smile, although his desperation was clear on his eyes. In fact, he thought this was a simple suicide mission. I bet Derscon has already been warned. Why aren't the orders changing? We stand against all odds and probably waiting for a bloddy miracle! Billions of Essentials will drown in the bottom of the sea...ahh..i am thinking of money now! I have gone mad....
He continued looking at the sea, which was completely dark, since the sun had already set to the West. His FO stepped away quietly, seeing there is no conversation.

While the commander was drowing in his own mizery, a man started anxiously shouting.
The Commander turned and looked at the young man running towards him.
When he arrived, the man wasted no time to take a deep breath and relax, he simply shouted the news to the Commander.
"Sir,", he said, "we just had a radio call. Independent Military has answered to the PM's calls. 4 Aircraft Carriers are joining our forces. The command is to return back to the northwest of the inland. Haivania is waiting sir!", he smiled and looked at the shocked Commander.

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"General", the PM smiled, "you really have surprised me!", he thought and finally added, "do they have a lot of trees there?".
The General looked at the PM in astonishment.
"You can't take over the power", said the PM sadly and with a small tone of sarcasm, "think of the 1.500 billion citizens that will definitely not like your actions...", he looked outside the window. "A Civil War is the last thing we need", he concluded.
"SAH is on the move sir", the General said after deep consideration, "just give us the signal".
"Hmmm....just wait", the PM turned and looked at that man standing in front of his desk, "we will wait for Atheistz's response. I will call him right away. Thank you General. Don't let me keep you off your hot coffee!", said the PM with a funny tone.

The General stepped outside and as soon as he closed the dorr behind him, the PM was already dialing the President's office. Then he waited.

That tree is ugly, too!, he thought. After a few moments he had the tree burned and was looking at the flames while waiting for a desperate response from the other side of the line.
Atheistz
23-07-2007, 01:00
The President picked up the phone.

'Hello?' Said the President in desperation.

'Jesus Christ, these guys have cornered me here' said the President, not allowing the Prime Minister to talk and raising his voice.

'We have reports of serious Military Activity against us and our Naval Fleet can't hold out much longer'

The President darted his hands around the keyboard and within several minuites he put his mouth to the phone and spoke 'Im sending you the most recent telegram to our Naval Fleet, and im quite sure that the communications to and from us are being monitored considering how the Enemy knew of my scouts'

The President looked into his Coffee mug and twitched slightly. He pressed his finger into it, scooped the coffee grains and licked it off. He sighed once again and waited for a response.
Cherry Ridge
23-07-2007, 05:33
From a missile site in the north of Cherry Ridge, in the middle of a large field, the earth opened up in one place. A lone conventional missile streaked up, then over the ocean, heading towards Athiestz's capital's governmental district. It was not a particularly strong weapon, but it would wake the citizenry up. At the same time, broadcasts were made into the nation:
Attention Citizens of Athiestz! Your government is at work attacking other nations. Your president is wanted for murder. Please turn him over. Footage of the vessels and debris from the planes was shown, and all messages recieved from the Atheistz government were read in the broadcast.

OOC: Might have missed that, Athiestz.
Haivania
23-07-2007, 07:22
"This has got to stop!", the PM angrily raised his voice, "you are bloody wanted for murder?", he stood up and started walking around the desk.
"Liza!", he shouted and looked at the door. A furious secretary stepped in. "Call the General".
"I am right here", said a man behind the PM, "i am sitting on your sofa, drinking my hot coffee, remember?", he added.
The PM had already turned and was looking with surprise at the General indeed sitting on the sofa when he heard the word coffee. Meanwhile, the secretary had already left the office.
"Does Worldwide Ministries have Uranium Supplies?", asked the presented with a small, happy tone.
"Yes sir", answered the other man, "but wh....", he thought and smiled like a fox in the PM.
The PM smiled, too.
"Mr President?", asked the PM on the phone, "are you still there?"
"I want you to take your Navy and head to Derscon, where you will surrender", the PM lighted a cigar, he suddenly choked but was able to continue, "remember to arrive at the South Port...."
Derscon
23-07-2007, 07:40
Dersconi Naval Command

Marko Rekjyavich looked over the reports from the Kremlin, and the recent intelligence reports.

"Trying to play us for a fool, eh? Seeing as the Superfleet is destined for Gens Romae, order the mobilization of First Fleet and send it over towards Haivania. They are to keep the Haivanian ships out of Prussian waters, but they may not impede on Haivanian national sovereignty. I leave the discretion as to the execution of this order to Imperial Admiral Pakhomii Vadislavov. Commander, what time is it?" His aide looked at his watch.

"23:56, sir." Marko nodded.

"Terrible shame, the Atheistz Fleet wouldn't send a message in time."
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School 0256

23:50

At this point, the submarines were all in position, forming a bowl under and around the Atheistz Fleet. The captains waited for the signal to call off. It never came.

23:56

At this point, the missile tubes and the torpedo tubes were flooded, and, as it would take approximately three minutes for the torpedoes and the missiles to hit their targets, were launched after the flooding of the tubes, and the opening of the doors.
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Air Group 02636

23:57

The fighters took the lead, in order to fend off any attempts by the Atheistz to engage in the Air Group.

The second wing of fighters dropped below the rest of the group, and, once exactly two minutes out, launched all of their Air-to-Surface missiles at the Atheistz fleet, as it was now 23:58, and it would take approximately two minutes for the missiles to get there.

Those fighters that emptied their missile capacities due to carrying ATS missiles dropped back and headed back to Sophia Citadel. The rest of the Air Group, however, continued towards the fleet.
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Atheistz Fleet

They knew the fleet was coming. They might have known that the submarines were there.

They obviously didn't know that they were going to fire without warning.

About three minutes before midnight, over one hundred missiles shot up out of the water all around the fleet (within several kilometres or so), on a clear trajectory to the ships in the fleet. Also coming in were the hundred or so missiles coming in from the ATS-loaded fighters.

Their SONAR, by now, also likely picked up the large barrage of torpedoes heading towards their ships, and their RADAR might have picked up the large Air Group with many bombers and fighter escorts, now heading towards them.

If the people in the CICs of all of their ships talked, they would all realize that the hundreds of missiles from sea and air and the barrage of torpedoes would all hit the fleet at approximately the same time -- midnight -- making it almost impossible to stop the entire attack: the missile spam timed to perfection ensured that. Oh sure, missiles would fail to reach their targets due to CIWS systems, and what-not, torpedoes would fail to hit their targets due to countermeasures, but that's what spam is for -- overwhelm the defences with sheer numbers.

And, more unfortunate for them, was after they dealt with the missiles and the torpedoes, they would find themselves visited with several bombers, carrying anti-ship weapons, designed to do exactly as the descriptor implies, as well as a large set of fighters, to keep the Atheistz planes away.

And to think, no one would have died if they just would have listened.
Haivania
23-07-2007, 09:09
OOC: Lol, i can't do anything yet. I am still on the phone with Atheistz president. :p
Worldwide Ministries
23-07-2007, 09:24
-Send this telegram to the PM of Haivania, confirmed the President.


Original Telegram to Haivania:

Our Grand Air Force has been alerted and is ready. They are currently waiting for your signal. The strategic plan has been clearly understood and we will do exactly what we are supposed to do. Our Navy is a discgrace, therefore we will be using it to protect our ports. Heavy AAA anti-bomber systems have been applied all around the North coast. The lowest mainland is surrounded by mountains, therefore we will not need to use that part of our nation. Please, warn all sirens and protect all civilians. Our sirens have already been struck.

Good luck my friend,
President of Worldwide Ministries

-Give it to the SAH Officer waiting outside, said the President after having finished reading the telegram. This way no one willl never learn its existance. Watch your back outside because SAH is too dark to trust. The whole world cannot trust SAH...i am afraid of my power, he looked around at his office, while whispering the above.
The Divine Deity
23-07-2007, 10:45
Dear fellow Christians,

I agree with those who say that God's love is about forgiveness and peace. However, it must be strongly emphasized that heresy and apostasy should not and cannot be tolerated.

May the Lord bless you.
Haivania
23-07-2007, 11:52
OOC: I see you have read the first few posts of this thread...have you seen in what a simple radio broadcast developed into?

The Haivanian Kingdom is against all religions. If you want to believe in God, just do it, as long as you don't offend the others.
Cherry Ridge
23-07-2007, 17:57
Dear fellow Christians,

I agree with those who say that God's love is about forgiveness and peace. However, it must be strongly emphasized that heresy and apostasy should not and cannot be tolerated.

May the Lord bless you.

Your Eminence,
Violence is not a way to deal with problems. I repeat the age old adage of grade school teachers: Keep your hands to yourself.

Rev. Fr. Sean Fitzgerald
Pschycotic Pschycos
23-07-2007, 19:25
Dear fellow Christians,

I agree with those who say that God's love is about forgiveness and peace. However, it must be strongly emphasized that heresy and apostasy should not and cannot be tolerated.

May the Lord bless you.

Sir,

Nor is it tolerable to allow innocent people to be tortured and killed simply because they do not agree with your teachings and your beliefs. You say we cannot tolerate heresy and apostasy. However, it is to my understanding that the Lord also wanted us to be tolerant. "Love thy neighbor as thyself" also comes to mind. The only thing that cannot be tolerated is cruelty shown to anyone.

A priest for Cherry Ridge recognized and spoke out against an inquisition set up against non-catholics in another nation, specifically Protestants. I see no need for this strife. The only problem there is is the intolerance and the ignorance of Gens Romae's leadership.

Sincerely,
Shogun Nakamura Taiki
Haivania
23-07-2007, 20:41
Off-Topic

I have to note here that i only am supporting Atheistz because it is my duty to do so as his UN Delegate, not because i have something against religious beliefs. I remain neutral in that matter, your choice, your path to follow then but i have to become hostile in the war matter. It seems that Atheistz is a bit late and that damn call which lasts a few minutes seems like lasting one lifetime!

We will wait and see my fellow nations...what path has been prepared ahead.

Yours Sincerely,
Prime Minister, Officer of the Royal Guard, of
The Constitutional Kingdom of Haivania
Derscon
24-07-2007, 04:16
OOC: Lol, i can't do anything yet. I am still on the phone with Atheistz president. :p

OOC: Indeed. And that's why Marko is deploying the First Fleet -- to make sure it stays that way. ;)

I have to note here that i only am supporting Atheistz because it is my duty to do so as his UN Delegate, not because i have something against religious beliefs. I remain neutral in that matter, your choice, your path to follow then but i have to become hostile in the war matter. It seems that Atheistz is a bit late and that damn call which lasts a few minutes seems like lasting one lifetime!

We will wait and see my fellow nations...what path has been prepared ahead.

Yours Sincerely,
Prime Minister, Officer of the Royal Guard, of
The Constitutional Kingdom of Haivania

To: The Office of the Prime Minister
From: The Office of the Holy Tsar of Derscon

Dear Sir,

I have received your open broadcast to involved nations detailing the reasons behind your involvement in the current war. While I respect the fact that Haivania is mobilizing to protect an ally, I must inform you of the specific details of the conflict with Atheistz.

First, we shall discuss the background of the conflict, via a brief summary. Gens Romae has in its nation the Inquisition, which executes people simply for not agreeing with the government, controlled by the doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church. A priest in Cherry Ridge spoke out against such blatant violations of basic human rights. In response, Gens Romae reacted aggressively, and, after storming out of a conference hosted by us, supported a bounty placed on the lives of Father Fitzgerald, the priest who spoke out against injustice, and Joseph Cardinal Marco, the Priest's superior, who refuses to have him killed for speaking out against such a blatant violation of basic human rights.

In response to the bounty, several Greater Prussian Nations mobilized their military in order to have Gens Romae back down with their completely uncalled for demand for the assassination of prominent citizens of Greater Prussia. Because of this mobilization, the nation of Atheistz, your ally, entered the conflict without provocation -- Atheistz, then was the aggressor -- and sent a fleet to attack us. Atheistz has militarily crossed into Greater Prussian waters -- this constitutes an act of war. Atheistz is the aggressor, and any action taken by the Greater Prussian Empire is entirely justified.

Which, then, brings us to you. The nation of Haivania, led by you, felt the need to defend their ally when they were under attack. However, their ally is in the wrong. Atheistz has committed an act of war against the Greater Prussian Empire, sending their military vessels into Greater Prussian territory -- entirely unprovoked.

We assure you, Mr. Prime Minister, that Haivania is under no obligation what-so-ever to defend Atheistz from the consequences of his illegal and unjust actions. It is, in fact, in the best interests of Haivania to remove themselves from the conflict entirely, as Haivania, if it acts to defend Atheistz, will be considered just as guilty as Atheistz for attacking the Greater Prussian Empire, and will experience the same punishment, and will drown in the Terrible Wrath of Almighty God, and why, you ask, will Haivania suffer this fate? Because Haivania, in her clouded judgement, was compelled to defend a nation that was clearly in the wrong.

I cannot stress enough: it is not in any way in Haivania's interests to defend Atheistz. For the sake of Haivanian Honour, and survival as a state, I must insist that Haivania removes itself from the conflict.

Deo Vindice.

His Most Eminent Majestic Highness Tsar Xavier Alexeitovich Caesar Agustus Andropov II, Fedei Defensor, By the Grace of God;
Ambrosial Seraph of the Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon,
Arch-Chancellor of the Greater Prussian Empire,
Leath-Ri of the Redemption Isles,
Veliky Kralj of the Eternal Empire,
Khšaçapavan of the Covanent of God,
Knight Commander and Dragon Master of the IOI Gloeihdamae
Haivania
24-07-2007, 07:19
To: The Office of the Holy Tsar of Derscon
From: The Office of the Prime Minister

Well, you have a very strong point there and although our military power is significant in the Naval area and Worldwide Ministries is suporting us with it's Grand Air Force, i have a few doubts about the situation of the war.

I cannot act further as i am still waiting for that desperate answer from the other side of the phone line. Those few moments will define the course of the war. You may understand that if i do not act i may be risking of losing an ally and a nation participating in my region, though the shame of loss will not be shadowed upon my nation.

The outcome is not clear although a few points have been cleared. We stand few chances against The Prussian Empire, we clearly understand that. Although the strong socialist alliance we have and the alliance with The Dictatorship of Independent Military may seem adequate enough to fight you, it is apparently not enough to fight The Prussian Empire altogether. This paragraph has no intention to offend you in any way, it is simply clearing out a few main points.

Therefore, before all things will be judged, just after the President of Atheistz finally answers my call, i would kindly ask you to navigate your fleet back to your land, while staying away from our national sea borders. Our Aircraft Carrier has already returned within borders. Our Navy is secured on the other side of our inland and our submarines are within International Borders, away from your borders, in a secure and safe distance.

For now, i will remain vigilant and remain completely ready to start an attack. The decision will be based on the final words of the President of Atheistz. For now, may prosperity lead your nation.

Yours Sincerely,
Prime Minister of
The Constitutional Kingdom of Haivania
Derscon
24-07-2007, 20:19
Star Office, The Kremlin

Tsar Xavier II was looking over the response, holding a holoconference with several high-ranking members of the Dersconi Imperial Armed Forces, several members of various high commands of other Greater Prussian States, and a few Dersconi diplomats.

The nice thing about the holoconference system was that it was designed to be sent through part of the IDN, which was predominantly underground, and therefore any time the system was used, foreign nations would not be able to pick up on it.

Currently present at the meeting (as it was a hologram conference, so they physically didn't need to be there) were Tsar Xavier II, CINCNAV Marko Herkjyavich, Imperial Admiral Yuri Zimmerov (Commander of the Superfleet), Imperial Admiral Pakhomii Vadislavov (Commander of the First Fleet), Lord General Kruchina Drakonov (Overseer of the National Military Command Centre), Minister of State Security Yuri Golovko, Marechal l'Empire General Charles Orlean, Lord Francis Carmel (Commander of the Crown Forces, Cherry Ridge), Grande Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto III (Commander of the Pschycotian Imperial Navy), and Foreign Minister of Derscon Zheleztsolupp Kabanov.

The first thing Xavier did was display the holomap to all of them, with detailed positions of all enemy and friendly combatants, thanks to the wonderful development of the Horus Defence Network, and detail them all on the situation.

"Okay. The situation stands as such: The Gens Romae front is relatively quiet. We haven't heard much from them at all. The Home Front is oddly quiet. After the assault on the Atheistz Fleet by several contingents of Dersconi submarines and aircraft, we have not received a full damage report, and have received no response from the Atheistz government. The Haivanian front, however, is the hottest at the moment, and we have received detailed information concerning the situation." Tsar Xavier sent them all the letter the Haivanian Prime Minister gave in response.

"In here, it is clear the Prime Minister has his doubts. It also details something we were not aware of -- Worldwide Ministries has deployed their entire Air Force, it seems, to help defend Haivania. I'm not necessarily worried, I just don't like being taken by surprise.

"The current Prussian military deployment stands as such: Dersconi Superfleet mobilized and en route to Gens Romae."

"With the Allanean Sisters of Liberty," Admiral Zimmerov added.

"Yes, with them. Dersconi First Fleet has been mobilized and is currently en route to Haivania," he said, nodding towards Admiral Vadislavov. "Several contingents of submarines and Air Defence Groups have been mobilized around the Island of Hope, and ATLANTIS is currently active. Also, along with the Superfleet is the Third Royal Marine Expeditionary Force, and with First Fleet, the Fourth RMEF. I have also ordered the mobilization of First Air Force, in order to counter the deployment of Worldwide Ministries.

"On the Ridgian side of things, the CRAF is under a full mobilization. I'm not currently aware of any other mobilizations.

"On the Pschycotian side of things, the ICS Kraken and escort vessels has been deployed.

The purpose of this conference is to coordinate defence and offensive strikes in order to bring about a quick resolution to the current conflict. Any deployments or troop movements I may have missed, please detail them now so we know what is on the table, and strategy plans and recommendations are welcome." As Tsar Xavier spoke, the reply to the Haivanian Prime Minister was also sent to all present.
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To: The Office of the Prime Minister
From: The Office of the Holy Tsar of Derscon

Dear Sir,

The mobilization of the Grand Air Force of Worldwide Ministries will only serve to heighten the crisis level and only make things worse. I request you have them back down, as increased mobilizations will only heat up the conflict to where an out-right war with all involved parties will erupt, and needless loss of life will ensue.

I also understand your hesitation to back out of the conflict, as you would be risking the loss of an ally. I assure you, however, that the fate of Atheistz is sealed -- if they do not cease all deployments of their military, and send a diplomatic envoy to Derscon to work towards a cease-fire, the entire nation will be destroyed. Atheistz has already lost this conflict, it is up to them how to take it, be it a surrender, or their total annihilation. Haivania has already lost an ally, as Atheistz has already lost. The government of Atheistz cannot expect you to board a sinking ship with no hope of salvation.

If Haivania removes itself out of this conflict, it shows that their government is of sound mind, and is capable of making intelligent decisions, not blinded by a self-destructive sense of leashed loyalty.

I assure you, if Haivania boards the sinking ship, it will die along with Atheistz. Do not attach yourself to a dead nation, it will only destroy yourself.

I do not know how to make it more clear. I only hope you are truly intelligent enough not to sign your entire nation and your citizenry to damnation simply for the sake of slowing down the destruction of Atheistz.

Deo Vindice.

His Most Eminent Majestic Highness Tsar Xavier Alexeitovich Caesar Agustus Andropov II, Fedei Defensor, By the Grace of God;
Ambrosial Seraph of the Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon,
Arch-Chancellor of the Greater Prussian Empire,
Leath-Ri of the Redemption Isles,
Veliky Kralj of the Eternal Empire,
Khšaçapavan of the Covanent of God,
Knight Commander and Dragon Master of the IOI Gloeihdamae
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Star Office

"Sir," was the remark from Yuri Golovko. "MSS Fourth Directorate has reported that they have pinpointed the location of the phone conversation in Atheistz." He nodded.

"Excellent. Lord General Drakonov, you are to cut that line. That conversation may not take place.

"With pleasure, your Majesty."
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Dersconi Waters

Leaving from a classified air base deep within the extinct volcanoes of the islands off the coast of Derscon, a contingent of stealth bombers and stealth fighter escorts equipped with the weaponry required to destroy the location of the conversation in Atheistz, took off at around one AM, en route to Atheistz. They were actually the "insurance" squad, just in case the EMP weapons satellite didn't work.
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Earth Orbit

The Stone Age-class weapons satellite received its orders from ODG-021 and proceeded to alter its orbit to make its way over Atheistz. There were two others also en route, as an insurance agent, in case Atheistz had the capability to shoot down satellites. All three satellites, however, were equipped with automatic defence mechanisms to protect themselves from anti-satellite weaponry. The nice thing about the Stone Age class satellite weaponry was that it was an EMP weapon -- so no actual direct casualties, other than power grids and other electronic devices, are incurred. Granted, the president of Atheistz -- as well as anyone else close to electronic devices -- might suffer some burn damage depending on the type of phone he was using, but that couldn't be helped.

It wouldn't take long for them to converge over the location and fire, and even if that didn't work, the contingent of stealth bombers and fighters would only be about ten minutes out.
Pschycotic Pschycos
24-07-2007, 21:40
"Tsar," began Yamamoto, "I'm having the Kraken and her escort rendevouz with a fast attack submerged fleet. After this, I'll position the squadron directly between the Prussian mainland and the Athiestz and Haivanian mainlands. She'll act as a long-range defense platform. We can strike out to 350 nautical miles at anything incoming. Do you have any thoughts contrary?"
Cherry Ridge
24-07-2007, 22:07
Lord Carmel replied, "In addition to the Air Force, all members of the army have reported to their stations, and the navy is on alert. All anti-aircraft systems have been activated as well. The Office for Internal..."

"Shut up," an arrogant voice said, "That is my responsibility, not yours. The Office for Internal Security is patrolling the streets, to prevent any propaganda from being believed by the people." Orlean grinned, "And Admiral," he clearly enjoyed saying this, "I believe Tsar is a bit informal, especially for a non royal, wouldn't you say?" Orlean finished, "I also lobbed an ICBM, conventional, I unfortunately must admit, at the miscretants capital city government district. Perhaps that may persuade them furthur."
Pschycotic Pschycos
25-07-2007, 03:28
"General Orlean, I have been in my post longer than you or Tsar Xavier have been alive," Admiral Yamamoto shot back. "Furthermore, Shogun Nakamura Yamato Kira made my family a branch-family of the Nakamuras. By Imperial Decree, we are royalty. If I were you, I would watch what I said to officers that far outrank you.

"I've been deployed out here to help protect and defend your nation. However, if my squadron is not wanted, then I certainly won't risk my sailors' lives."
Cherry Ridge
25-07-2007, 03:39
Orlean scoffed, "Do not..." Then the Tsar of Derscon cut him off.
Derscon
25-07-2007, 05:52
Tsar Xavier waved his hand at Orlean, telling him to shut up -- albeit in a nice manner, and addressed Admiral Yamamoto.

"Admiral, Charles Orlean is a Marechal l'Empire, and my Chief of Staff as Arch-Chancellor of the Greater Prussian Empire. You do not out rank him, and neither does he outrank you, as they are separate command structures, except for here, in joint Prussian operations.

"However, I would like to remind you both, that we are here to make a unified strategy, and as we are, for the most part, all military men here, bickering will not be tolerated. We may leave that to the diplomats. Anyway," he said, letting out a sigh and taking a drink.

"Admiral Yamamoto, I believe that would be the best course of action, to have the Kraken stand as the middle-man in all the war. The Superfleet will be going further to assault Gens Romae, and depending on how large-scale this operation gets, I may have the Kraken be used as the overall command centre, though I doubt this operation will require such a move.

"My current thoughts are this," he said, displaying a map once more. "We will use the deployment of the Kraken as a supply checkpoint, as well as a checkpoint to protect our supply lines. First Fleet will move towards Haivania, and the Superfleet towards Gens Romae, as currently instructed. Due to the...size of the Kraken, I believe we can use it also as a staging platform for air strikes by the larger aircraft, and I believe it is well enough protected as to not warrant any further naval deployments, and ATLANTIS and the GPSDI has the Greater Prussian Continent very well defended, so no further deployments will be necessary.

"At the moment, the Sola Fide and the Soli Deo Gloria division of the Greater Prussian Imperial Guard is currently undergoing deployment, as well as First and Second Corps of the Dersconi Imperial Armed Forces."

"Admiral Yamamoto, your floating citadel," he said, smirking, "what is the troop carrying capacity of the combined task force?"
Haivania
25-07-2007, 07:19
The PM waited and waited for many more minutes but the President did not sound his voice. After a while, the line was cut. The PM, hung up the phone with a curious face. He lifted his one eyebrown and shaked his head to the General.
"We must change our course. Do it!", he desperately said to the General. The man stood up and furiously run our of the office, closing the door behind him.



Newsflash

H.B.C
Haivanian Broadcasting Channel

As we have finally received the critical information, it is our duty to inform you of the current status of international events.
The Queen Aircraft Carrier has reached our inland and is currently resting in place. The military submarines have also changed their course and heading back home. The PM has clearly indicated that the Royal Navy has returned, along with the other military forces but everything will remain extremely alerted until the Prussian Empire withdraws also. The PM has also stated that the Grand Air Force of Worldwide Ministries has returned back to the mainland. Worldwide Ministries has confirmed that is off the conflict but still remains vigilant. Our information defines the existant of top secret missions from the side of the glorious SAH, however, it is confirmed that all missions have been aborted.
Both national leaders have finally stated that their borders will remain closed until the Prussian Empire ends this nightmare. After their military withdraws to their lands, national borders will open and trade and commercial exchanges will continue like nothing had ever happened.
In his speech earlier this morning, the Prime Minister has clearly indicated that the Prussian Empire should stop destroyed Atheistz; their goal has been achieved and their enemy's fleet has been wiped out. Atheistz no longer stands as a vital enemy to the Prussian Empire.
The sirens have stopped screaming and the PM ended his speech by addressing that these movements do not indicate a sign of loss. "We never participated and we never lost", he had stated.
It seems that the next year's upcoming elections will deeply affect the course of....
Pschycotic Pschycos
25-07-2007, 20:30
"The Kraken," Yamamoto said, enjoying the title of citadel, regardless of it being facitious or not, "can hold 4000 Imperial Marines, with room for an additional 4000 if needed. She can also hold transports as large as a C-130 on her decks for layovers, etc..."
Haivania
25-07-2007, 21:56
OOC: It looks like a spaceship rather than a Naval unit
Pschycotic Pschycos
26-07-2007, 01:43
OOC: hahahaha, yeah. And you haven't even seen the picture of it yet :P
Derscon
26-07-2007, 05:37
Xavier thought a moment and nodded, letting out a sigh. "Okay, that'll work. It won't be able to hold one of the Imperial Guard divisions, but it's enough that we can use it as a base. I'm going to ask that you hold the Kraken at the Island of Hope until the transports etc are ready, and then they and their escorts will join the Kraken out to this position," he said, Xavier marking a spot on the map half-way in between Greater Prussia and the two fronts of war.

"Unless anyone else has anything to add, I believe this is over, as any further decisions will be made by the commanders in the field."
Derscon
26-07-2007, 05:42
Newsflash

H.B.C
Haivanian Broadcasting Channel

As we have finally received the critical information, it is our duty to inform you of the current status of international events.
The Queen Aircraft Carrier has reached our inland and is currently resting in place. The military submarines have also changed their course and heading back home. The PM has clearly indicated that the Royal Navy has returned, along with the other military forces but everything will remain extremely alerted until the Prussian Empire withdraws also. The PM has also stated that the Grand Air Force of Worldwide Ministries has returned back to the mainland. Worldwide Ministries has confirmed that is off the conflict but still remains vigilant. Our information defines the existant of top secret missions from the side of the glorious SAH, however, it is confirmed that all missions have been aborted.
Both national leaders have finally stated that their borders will remain closed until the Prussian Empire ends this nightmare. After their military withdraws to their lands, national borders will open and trade and commercial exchanges will continue like nothing had ever happened.
In his speech earlier this morning, the Prime Minister has clearly indicated that the Prussian Empire should stop destroyed Atheistz; their goal has been achieved and their enemy's fleet has been wiped out. Atheistz no longer stands as a vital enemy to the Prussian Empire.
The sirens have stopped screaming and the PM ended his speech by addressing that these movements do not indicate a sign of loss. "We never participated and we never lost", he had stated.
It seems that the next year's upcoming elections will deeply affect the course of....

Official Response by the Foreign Ministry

It is comforting to know that the Haivanian government has made the right decision in this conflict. As of now, the First Fleet of Derscon is being re-assigned to aide in the current conflict with Gens Romae and Atheistz.

However, we will not stop our current policies towards Atheistz, unless they themselves approach us. They have committed an act of war, and will be made example of.

Atheistz will only survive if they, themselves, approach us with the willingness to surrender, and peace may be negotiated.

Deo Vindice.

--Zheleztsolupp Kabanov
Foreign Minister to the Tsar
The Divine Prussian Empire of Derscon
Haivania
26-07-2007, 06:53
OOC: hahahaha, yeah. And you haven't even seen the picture of it yet :P

OOC: Well, i would like to have a heart attack, lol, if you have a picture show me please


Derscon, i hope this nonsense ends fast so that our borders open and we will be able to enjoy peace.
Gens Romae
28-07-2007, 03:11
Official statement of Gens Romae:

The problematic CEO of the farming industry has been apprehended and presently sent extradited to the demanding parties. The Roman government wishes to express Her complete disassociation from the actions of the aforesaid CEO.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome
Derscon
29-07-2007, 05:01
Official statement of Gens Romae:

The problematic CEO of the farming industry has been apprehended and presently sent extradited to the demanding parties. The Roman government wishes to express Her complete disassociation from the actions of the aforesaid CEO.

Sextus Augustus
Imperator of Rome

Upon the statement delivered by the Imperator, a plane from Derscon took off, escorted by several fighter/interceptors, for Gens Romae, to pick up the CEO of the industry.

Upon reaching Gens Romae, they waited to follow the instructions of the air traffic control to land at the proper airport and pick up the CEO.