The Caz'e City Conference (attn. Everyone rebuilding Cazelia)
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 01:45
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z216/Cazelia/nauru--54.jpg
The Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority Headquarters, Caz'e City
General Wetanu walked into the building that had been selected to hold the Conference. He wasn't sure what it had been, but it was in a safe part of the city and had a large room where a table had been set.
He walked up the stairs into what was now being called the Conference Room and sat down in one of the seats reserved for the Cookesland Delegation.
He also noticed Wiikikkats Corp. hadn't arrived yet, but shrugged it off. "They'll be along soon with everyone else i guess", and then waited for the other delegations.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 01:53
Frederick Bremer, Director of VISA Mission in Cazelia, walked into the conference, accompanied by a man with a briefcase.
He sat down at the seats designated, as did the other man.
"You're sure you have everything?" Bremer said to the man.
"Yes. I have the maps and everything."
No_State_At_All
16-07-2007, 01:54
A pair of men in the uniform of minor officers in the NSAA navy entered and took seats, along with one man in a suit.
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:01
A priest and a rabbi walked into the room. . . and I know what you were thinking. This is not a lame joke, these men, and the head of the New Brittonian reconstruction effort, were representing the entire New Brittonian reconstructiion effort today.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:04
Frederick Bremer spoke up.
"I table a motion that we get donuts in here."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:07
General Wetanu stood up and said "Motion seconded." and then said "now I ask you this as a fellow delegate, where shall we begin?"
[OoC: since more than a couple of us are online i'm kinda think we should start and get a little bit done.]
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 02:07
Lieutenant General Joe Watson and several guards walked into the conference room. The General was the head of the Aurum Doman peacekeeping force and the industrial reconstruction. He sat down and waited for the meeting to begin.
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 02:11
An army general wearing his standard urban camo with a UFAN armband on walked in and sat down. This was General Alexander Douglas, head of the Prestonian peacekeepers attached to UFAN. As he sat down, he surveyed the room and checked his watch, waiting for the other delegates to show up so that the conference could progress.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:12
After receiving and subsequently consuming donuts (which are now a permanent fixture in the conference), Bremer spoke again.
"I propose that the territory of Cazelia that is not former BL territory remain as it is. I also propose that Cazelia Londii is divided up into administrative divisions, where the area is patrolled by only one national force, but every nation can have unarmed personnel. Thus, patrolling is made easy, as is reconstruction."
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 02:15
"That sounds good, but I've got another idea," Gen. Douglas said. "We leave Cazelia Londii in one piece and have an alliances or set of alliances administrate it. Sovereignty will be returned gradually as the area gets on it feet. After the nation is rebuilt and secured, the alliances withdraw."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:15
After receiving and subsequently consuming donuts (which are now a permanent fixture in the conference), Bremer spoke again.
"I propose that the territory of Cazelia that is not former BL territory remain as it is. I also propose that Cazelia Londii is divided up into administrative divisions, where the area is patrolled by only one national force, but every nation can have unarmed personnel. Thus, patrolling is made easy, as is reconstruction."
General Wentanu replied, "Well first off i propose we rename Cazelia Londii, that name is now rather defunct. I disagree with us dividing Cazelia further than it already is. There are about 10 or so other nations that would all want a chunk to patrol and protect. I say we keep it intact.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:18
General Wentanu replied, "Well first off i propose we rename Cazelia Londii, that name is now rather defunct. I disagree with us dividing Cazelia further than it already is. There are about 10 or so other nations that would all want a chunk to patrol and protect. I say we keep it intact.
"Why don't we call it 'Cazelia Southeast'?"
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:22
The reconstruction head , Mrs. Elaine Taylor, spoke,
"Given the fact that we have helped in this conflict, but we cannot send troops in, we would like a section of Cazelia to adinister as socerign territory of New Brittonia. As long as we do not have to go to war with anyone for the Brittonian claim."
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 02:22
"Or we could not divide up the country and just patrol the whole thing."
why not just give it back to the Cazelian's", A voice mumured from a corner.
The delegates all turned to see a man dressed in a officer's uniform, his face unshaven and pale.
"Who are you and what are you doing here?" hissed Bremer
"I'm sorry," spoke the man "but I thought this meeting was about the rebuilding of Cazelia, not about holding it in economic and military bondage.
"that is not important, WHO are you?"
" Sgt. Rykov. Delegate of Duneria, As far as I'm concerned the only way to end this crisis and rebuild Cazelia, is placing the operation in the hands of Hasely."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:25
"Or we could not divide up the country and just patrol the whole thing."
"I do not care about patrols, as New brittonia cannot use the troops unless in times of war, but I am saying that is the nation gets divided, New Brittonia would like a slice."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:25
"Or we could not divide up the country and just patrol the whole thing."
"Which is what im supporting, it would cause a lot less tension. By the way does anyone have an updated map of Cazelia, im afraid i am unprepared at this time." said the General
Otaku-do
16-07-2007, 02:28
The doors swing open once more and The Most Wise Empress Kou the Third of Otaku-do glides regally into the buildimg. She is almost 6 feet tall with long black hair, a pale complexion and a slender figure, resplendant in a flowing red kimono. She is flanked by a stout, square shouldered man in a green Army dress uniform, General Akira Tokugawa (ret.), her somewhat blustery and hardheaded military advisor on her left.
To her right is a shorter woman in a simple black kimono called Chiaki Mizuno. Mizuno is one of Otaku-do's foremost diplomats, a shrewd negotiator and one of Empress Kou's most trusted advisors.
Behind them is a large man in a red uniform with a sword sheathed at his right hip, his uniform bears the emblem of the Otaku-do's Imperial bodyguard. He remains standing behind the Empress as she and her advisors take their seats.
Empress Kou replies to Mr Bremer. "I have brought boxes of Pocky for everyone if that would please you.
"or you could restore Cazelia's leaders to power, and after that you each get rewards"
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:30
why not just give it back to the Cazelian's", A voice mumured from a corner.
The delegates all turned to see a man dressed in a officer's uniform, his face unshaven and pale.
"Who are you and what are you doing here?" hissed Bremer
"I'm sorry," spoke the man "but I thought this meeting was about the rebuilding of Cazelia, not about holding it in economic and military bondage.
"that is not important, WHO are you?"
" Sgt. Rykov. Delegate of Duneria, As far as I'm concerned the only way to end this crisis and rebuild Cazelia, is placing the operation in the hands of Hasely."
OOC: Are you controlling my player?
IC:
"Putting in the command of Halsey? We don't even know where he is! The Londinians probably took him with them!"
OOC- sorry, I just added his name for dramatic tension.
IC- "Au contraire, Chairman, While BL is at war several powers are working to get him back."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:32
[OoC: Who is Hasely]
IC: "Welcome to the CoaLUEtion Conference, your highness." said General Wetanu to Empress Kou.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:32
"Which is what im supporting, it would cause a lot less tension. By the way does anyone have an updated map of Cazelia, im afraid i am unprepared at this time." said the General
OOC: There's not a good one available.
IC: Bremer was frustrated.
"If you'd prefer, VISA could just pull out now and leave our territory in complete and total economic and military ruin.
"We're performing a humanitarian operation. I find that things are more efficient when they're divided up. Just put certain people here, and put other people here, just like the mythical Iraq."
" the problem now is BL don't you agree?"
[OoC: Who is Hasely]
IC: "Welcome to the CoaLUEtion Conference, your highness." said General Wetanu to Empress Kou.
OOC- Hasely was the former president of Cazelia, before BL/ Urcea takeover
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 02:35
"Now listen, I'm not proposing occupation here, just some hands-on foreign aid until the Cazelians get on their feet. We'll help them draft a constitution, supervise elections for a President, and supplement their military and police until they're big enough to handle things on their own. We open trade with them to boost their economy and just sit back and monitor their growth. Not to blow my own trumpet here, but I think UFAN would be ready and willing to oversee the rebuilding."
"that is alright, tell us of your progress"
Two black ZIL-111 limousines pulled up to the building, slowly coming to a halt before the building entrance. The security personnel stepped out first, confirming that the area was secure, and then the Proconsul left his limousine and walked in to the conference, briefcase in tow.
"It looks like the meeting has already begun! Apologies for being somewhat late, but I had some business to take care of at my residence and a tour of a power station to complete..."
He paused. "Well, what have we discussed so far? I can describe progress on our efforts if you'd like, but it looks like you gentlemen are already busy."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:36
"Well, honestly. I would look favorably on hearing the progress. . . as that was why I came.", Elaine said.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:37
" the problem now is BL don't you agree?"
"They're out of the picture!"
"How so, have they been defeated?"
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:39
"No, but they aren't involved in Cazelia anymore, unless they have Halsey, which I doubt they do."
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 02:40
"I just want to make something perfectly clear, No one is taking a piece of Cazelia as a colony, period. Also I agree that Halsey is not the answer at the moment. We need to help the Cazelians form an interim government, whether Halsey participates is his descision."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:41
ooc- is hasley halsey, i am seeing them on this thread
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:43
"I just want to make something perfectly clear, No one is taking a piece of Cazelia as a colony, period.
"We already have, for a temporary period of time. Unless you're referring to another part of Cazelia."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:43
"No, but they aren't involved in Cazelia anymore, unless they have Halsey, which I doubt they do."
"British Londinium still is technically, they still claim possession of the Isle of Cabelle off the coast of Cazelia, but it's being blockaded by No_State_At_All ad Cookeslandic forces."
"perfect, than let me put forward this proposal"
"Our forces are stationed on the Cazelian border. They can enter Cazelia in a matter of hours, Their purpose is simple. To defend BL from coming back! When my forces our deployed, civil elections will be held, and the gradual rebuilding will commence. When the country is rebuilt, each of the nations involved in this coalition will pull out (business relations will still occur). this way we have security and guaranteed peace"
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 02:45
"All Cazelian territory still belongs to Cazelia, we are simply lending a hand. I'm fine with one nation focusing on one part but after reconstruction is finished all territory will be returned to Cazelia."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:46
"perfect, than let me put forward this proposal"
"Our forces are stationed on the Cazelian border. They can enter Cazelia in a matter of hours, Their purpose is simple. To defend BL from coming back! When my forces our deployed, civil elections will be held, and the gradual rebuilding will commence. When the country is rebuilt, each of the nations involved in this coalition will pull out (business relations will still occur). this way we have security and guaranteed peace"
"BL is not coming back. Not with everyone here being involved."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:46
"British Londinium forces were ordered to withdraw by their leader, albeit in a destructive manner."
The Proconsul rose to address the delegation. An advanced projection screen came down, displaying economic figures and developments in animated, 3d form.
"As you can see, we've made great progress in expanding the power and water infrastructure. By and large, full electricity service has been extended to 70% of the country and 85% of the population receives clean, treated and safe water."
He paused, and time-lapse diagrams appeared showing power and water lines snaking across the country.
"Both of these percentages will be 100% within two more years, although I have to stress that these represent prewar standards and may not necessarily be at desired levels for some time. Nonetheless, the risk of disease will be low to nonexistent in all regions and power supplies will be adequate for economic growth."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:47
"Is there anything specific that you need us to do? I'd love to help but we jus need to know what to do. We have some progress, if I am allowed to discuss it."
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 02:47
"Thanks to Aurum Domus, Cazelia's mining and metalworking industries are almost full operational. We expect full operation in six months."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:48
"Okay, how about this. My nation will drop its claims in Cazelia Londii if we are given some authority over the reconstruction. We rebuilt Cazelia Londii once, we can do it again. Besides, we've been in this longer than most people in here."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:48
"Okay, how about this. My nation will drop its claims in Cazelia Londii if we are given some authority over the reconstruction. We rebuilt Cazelia Londii once, we can do it again. Besides, we've been in this longer than most people in here."
"The VISA and Wiikikkats Corporations already do have quite a lot of authority over the reconstruction effort."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:50
GAA! Jolt time warp!
This was the most recent map of Cazelia.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/fahooglewitz1077/cazeliafv6.png
Otaku-do
16-07-2007, 02:50
Ms Mizuno, General Tokugawa and Empress Kou quietly and quickly converse among themselves before the Empress speaks up once again.
"It is our considered opinion that the current operations in Cazelia should remain entirely humanitarian with the clear objective of making the Country secure for its people so they may live peacefully and prosper. This should not... MUST NOT become an excuse for nations to carve up the nation to suit their own interests.
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 02:50
"that is alright, tell us of your progress"
"We've got 15,000 peacekeepers on the ground in Caz'e City looking for survivors and delivering humanitarian aid. We've also volunteered to rearm and retrain their army, but so far we haven't seen many prospective recruits. We haven't started the government rebuilding yet, but we propose holding elections for President and Parliament within 90 days. We'll try to get BL to give us whereabouts for President Hasley, and if we find him he'll assume the Presidency. If not, we'll have an election."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:52
"The VISA and Wiikikkats Corporations already do have quite a lot of authority over the reconstruction effort."
OOC: Actually, it's been quite rampant, in my opinion.
" it's not Cazelia Londii anymore, it's just Cazelia, just like it was before BL's psychotic forces took over."
"as for reconstruction operations, I vote for VISA to oversee the operations."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:52
"We've got 15,000 peacekeepers on the ground in Caz'e City looking for survivors and delivering humanitarian aid. We've also volunteered to rearm and retrain their army, but so far we haven't seen many prospective recruits. We haven't started the government rebuilding yet, but we propose holding elections for President and Parliament within 90 days. We'll try to get BL to give us whereabouts for President Hasley, and if we find him he'll assume the Presidency. If not, we'll have an election."
"I disagree in my opinion Hasley was a poor leader, Cazelia deserves better."
OOC: Actually, it's been quite rampant, in my opinion.
OoC: Agreed, but I like to believe we do as we were the first two to start rebuilding
"I disagree in my opinion Hasley was a poor leader, Cazelia deserves better."
OoC: Agreed, but I like to believe we do as we were the first two to start rebuilding
"who do you have in mind?"
"Maybe we could have a Advisory council, If hasely get's back into power"
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:56
"I disagree in my opinion Hasley was a poor leader, Cazelia deserves better."
"My sentiments exactly."
"as for reconstruction operations, I vote for VISA to oversee the operations."
"Woah. Not a hostile takeover, we just need more grip on the reins then we have now."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:56
"We've got 15,000 peacekeepers on the ground in Caz'e City looking for survivors and delivering humanitarian aid. We've also volunteered to rearm and retrain their army, but so far we haven't seen many prospective recruits. We haven't started the government rebuilding yet, but we propose holding elections for President and Parliament within 90 days. We'll try to get BL to give us whereabouts for President Hasley, and if we find him he'll assume the Presidency. If not, we'll have an election."
Rabbi Rabinowitz spoke, "We have 30,000 people under verious Jewish charities working for reconstruction. Do you have anything specific for them to be told to do?"
Otaku-do
16-07-2007, 02:57
"Hasley was, however, the elected leader of this nation, despite what others may think of him."
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 02:57
"Ok then, lets go back to the original plan. Each country is assigned an area to administer. Any government activity will stand for all territories. Eventually as each area is rebuilt it will be administered by Cazelia. We continue rebuilding until the Cazelians can administer the entire country. Then we withdraw."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:57
OoC: Agreed, but I like to believe we do as we were the first two to start rebuilding
OOC: That needs to be established, then. As the original rebuilders, we claim authority over the reconstruction.
"We would also be happy to hear the progress from New Brittonia and anyone else interested. And, in addition, we'd like to remind everyone that our country is spending $350 billion on this effort...although we are not making any territorial claims, our influence is significant in the reconstruction effort."
Maldorians
16-07-2007, 02:58
"The majority of our peacekeepers are being sent to our northeast area, while the rest are being sent to the island."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 02:58
"who do you have in mind?"
"Well, let's have an open democratic election, the Cazelians can decide for themselves."
"My fellows delegates, we should also start to think in the near future of a plan to Re-unite Cazelia."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 02:59
"We've stopped counting the expense, if that's how we're going to measure influence. Anyway you care to slice it, we've done more than most."
Elaine said, "Well, I hope that you are not saying that you are better than us."
"Ok then, lets go back to the original plan. Each country is assigned an area to administer. Any government activity will stand for all territories. Eventually as each area is rebuilt it will be administered by Cazelia. We continue rebuilding until the Cazelians can administer the entire country. Then we withdraw."
"I wholeheartedly agree with this plan"
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 02:59
"We would also be happy to hear the progress from New Brittonia and anyone else interested. And, in addition, we'd like to remind everyone that our country is spending $350 billion on this effort...although we are not making any territorial claims, our influence is significant in the reconstruction effort."
"We've stopped counting the expense, if that's how we're going to measure influence. Anyway you care to slice it, we've done more than most."
"Okay, It's apparent we have different Idea's on this, So lets be democratic about it. We all have a vote on what we should do."
"poll anyone?"
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 03:02
" it's not Cazelia Londii anymore, it's just Cazelia, just like it was before BL's psychotic forces took over."
"as for reconstruction operations, I vote for VISA to oversee the operations."
"Will VISA oversee just the military reconstruction or all of it?", Elaine said.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 03:02
Elaine said, "Well, I hope that you are not saying that you are better than us."
"Put simply, yeah, we are, as we've done a great deal for Cazelia. We had Cazelia Londii totally rebuilt, before BL trashed it."
Aurum Domus
16-07-2007, 03:02
"I have told everyone my plan, now tell me yours. We will vote on them to decide what we do."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 03:02
"Put simply, yeah, we are, as we've done a great deal for Cazelia. We had Cazelia Londii totally rebuilt, before BL trashed it."
"Well, I think that others will object", Elaine said.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 03:04
"Put simply, yeah, we are, as we've done a great deal for Cazelia. We had Cazelia Londii totally rebuilt, before BL trashed it."
"Gentlemen." said General Wetanu sternly, "we aren't here to argue who's done more than who we're planning how to make Cazelia a working, Sovereign country again."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 03:05
"Will VISA oversee just the military reconstruction or all of it?", Elaine said.
Hopefully all of it in general, as well as Wiki-cats corporation or whatever. I'll appoint other nations to be in charge of certain parts of the infrastructure.
As a large financial company, we've basically provided tons and tons of cash, only to have our own work be destroyed by BL.
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 03:06
Hopefully all of it in general, as well as Wiki-cats corporation or whatever. I'll appoint associates to be in charge of certain parts of the infrastructure.
As a large financial company, we've basically provided tons and tons of cash, only to have our own work be destroyed by BL.
Rabbi Rabinowitz spoke,
"Do you want the NGO's like us to be incorperated into this system, and how?"
" maybe we need to draft a regional defense force in case BL comes back."
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 03:09
" maybe we need to draft a regional defense force in case BL comes back."
"Well", Elaine said, "New Brittoia cannot be a part of this. We did not come to discuss military operations or treaties."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 03:10
Rabbi Rabinowitz spoke,
"Do you want the NGO's like us to be incorperated into this system, and how?"
"Erm, yes."
OOC: NGOs? Enlighten me.
"Well", Elaine said, "New Brittoia cannot be a part of this. We did not come to discuss military operations or treaties."
OCC- Ooops, maybe that can be the discussion of a different forum
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 03:12
"Erm, yes."
OOC: NGOs? Enlighten me.
ooc- non governmental organizations. NB has many government-sponsored building trams (similar to the US peace corps), but many Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist charities (or non religious at all) have sent monet and construction teams there
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 03:15
OOC: Dangit, bedtime.
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 03:15
"Yeah, NGOs will be involved. Just as a part of the nation they're connected to."
"Okay", Father Emerson said, "just tell on how you want us integrated."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 03:15
ooc- non governmental organizations. NB has many government-sponsored building trams (similar to the US peace corps), but many Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Buddhist charities (or non religious at all) have sent monet and construction teams there
"Yeah, NGOs will be involved. Just as a part of the nation they're connected to."
Otaku-do
16-07-2007, 03:16
General Tokugawa stands to address the conference on Otaku-do's behalf.
"As you know we have sent several construction crews to several parts of the country where they are needed the most and we are pleased to say that many of the gutted residential buildings are going to be ready within two to four weeks.
"Furthermore we have four squadrons of Estavalis flying mechs, a total of 48 units, including the elite Empress' guard which patrols above this very city."
As if on cue a deep rumble is heard as a large humanoid shadow moves across the table through the skylight above the various delgates.
"These units will remain in place only as long as the Cazelian government asks them to."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 03:18
"Okay", Father Emerson said, "just tell on how you want us integrated."
"They can help in the Aid dstribution centers around the country, and care to the spiritual needs of the wounded/Cazelians/CoaLUEtion forces."
[OoC: Signing off for tonight]
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 04:22
"They can help in the Aid dstribution centers around the country, and care to the spiritual needs of the wounded/Cazelians/CoaLUEtion forces."
[OoC: Signing off for tonight]
"Okay, we're not just religious. We want to help homes,schools, and the economy."
ooc- wanna have a thread for the aid distribution and rebuilding, more characters than national, you know what I mean?
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
16-07-2007, 05:04
IC paraphrase: NB you are more than welcome into Jakkson. Dian Engineers there could use assitance in a number of simple construction projects in and around Jakkson.
Also you can post up in the agora we constructed that you are willing to help build homes, I'm guessing many Cazelians will accept your offer.
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One project in particular on the long term you may be interested in is a large CO-OP garden outside of Jakkson to supliment the food source there. As well as a new public share market. That is a place people can trade their own services and goods, as well as goods be freely given to people, such as food from joint community efforts as a type of alms point and market.
L.O. Dispatch to N.B. (through computer channels not actually spoken - but a more official offer is attached and this page as a cover letter).
There is a Dian Representative there with some electronics equipment using a satalite uplink feed.
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He also hands a PDA to the NB representative - sliding it across the conference table.
"Here is a list of projects that you are welcome to assit in that ICCD is organizing. If you have any specific project requests feel open to petition the L.O. and it will be sent to appropriate channels. "
He pauses a moment
"You can keep the P.D.A. we realize you might not be able to interface with our technology without it.
There is a small solar pad attached to it as well, we don't think you have our voltage standards. Consider it a gift of state," the slim but muscular man says.
The Dian representative appeared to be a 40 some soilder in Dian BDU including full body armour - his helmet was off - a little over dressed for the situation. Also two others were there but with their helmets on, providing technical assistance, . Anyone in the know knew they arrive via a Helicopter and used relatively new Dian MotorBicycles to get to the conference. It was a five man team but only three were currently inside the building the other two were watching the bikes. Meanwhile a helicopter waited outside of Caz City in a clearing that facilitated the landing.
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 05:18
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12878508']NB you are more than welcome into Jakkson. Dian Engineers there could use assitance in a number of simple construction projects in and around Jakkson.
Also you can post up in the agora we constructed that you are willing to help build homes, I'm guessing many Cazelians will accept your offer.
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One project in particular on the long term you may be interested in is a large CO-OP garden outside of Jakkson to supliment the food source there. As well as a new public share market. That is a place people can trade their own services and goods, as well as goods be freely given to people, such as food from joint community efforts as a type of alms point and market.
L.O. Dispatch to N.B. (through computer channels not actually spoken - but a more official offer is attached and this page as a cover letter).
THere is a Dian Representative there with some electronics equipment using a satalite uplink feed.
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He also hands a disk to the NB representative - sliding it across the conference table.
"Here is a list of projects that you are welcome to work that ICCD is organizing. If you have any specific project requests feel open to petition the L.O. and it will be sent to appropriate channels. "
The Dian representative appeared to be a 40 some soilder in Dian BDU including full body armour - a little over dressed for the situation. Also were two younger officers who were providing technical assistance. Anyone in the know knew they arrive via a Helicopter and used relatively new Dian MotorBicycles to get to the conference. It was a five many team but only three were currently inside the building the other two were watching the bikes. Meanwhile a helicopter waited outside of Caz City in a clearing that facilitated the landing.
ooc, want the building in a new thread?
The World Soviet Party
16-07-2007, 05:20
The Soviet Delegate rushed into the room.
"Sorry for getting here so late, there was a... uhhh... traffic jam, yeah, that's it"
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 05:25
Rabbi Rabinowitz spoke, "We have 30,000 people under verious Jewish charities working for reconstruction. Do you have anything specific for them to be told to do?"
"We don't have anything specific at the moment, but if you could help out with humanitarian aid in other cities such as Cazia, it would be much appreciated. We'd do it ourselves but we've got our base set up here."
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 05:30
" maybe we need to draft a regional defense force in case BL comes back."
"While I doubt those Londinian pigs will rear their heads in this area again, I support the drafting of a defense force. We've undertaken a rearming of the Cazelian military, and lately we've gotten a surge in applicants. We should have about 5,000 fully trained Cazelian Provisional Army troops ready within three months. I know it isn't much but at least it's something."
Prince Emilian Davout cursed his bad luck, it was for the third time that his personal jet made him late to an official meeting. The engineers at home had warned him about possible problems, but he was attached to his "old lady" having used the same aircraft for most of his term in office, now he had finally arrived at the place of the meeting.
"Greetings gentlemen," he saluted the delegates at the conference, "I am the representative of The Principality of Damirez, my nation would like to provide aid in rebuilding Cazelia," as he continued he provided a few documents for the other representatives to read, "here are the contributions we are willing to make."
Official Document:
The government of The Principality would like to place at the disposal of the rebuilding effort the following:
2 engineering brigades, to be attached to the already present Etoile Arcture presence.
1 small naval task force, tasked with facilitating supply lift for both Etoil Arcture and The Principality forces.
Also, our government would like to provide free military training for the Cazelian pilots, in hopes of hastening the creation of a new Cazelian military.
Our private sector has also expressed an interest in aiding with the reconstruction and many are willing to open new factories and stores in Cazelia.
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 05:35
ooc- can i do the specific reconstruction in a new thread?
The World Soviet Party
16-07-2007, 05:39
The Soviet raised his hand:
"We have already established a working Cazelian Police Force, and we are in the process of organizing a military, so either we are fast and you guys slow, or our methods are better"
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 05:46
The Soviet raised his hand:
"We have already established a working Cazelian Police Force, and we are in the process of organizing a military, so either we are fast and you guys slow, or our methods are better"
'Well comrade," Gen. Douglas said, using the word to show his own standing as a Socialist, "we put the Cazelians through the same training we give our guys: an 18 week high-intensity course that teaches them anything they could possibly need in battle. But, we concede that we were a bit slow in recruiting. We'll turn our recruits over to you and you can take over."
OOC: This is off topic, but have you seen my GUSN application yet?
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 05:49
ooc- can i get an answer to my question?
OOC: IDK NB, not my thread.:(
The Wagdian Delegate, General David Erst, walked into the conference and introduced himself. "Sorry for my late arrival, everyone; our landing in Northwest Cazelia was somewhat delayed, and I had to oversee matters myself much of the time. However, I am here now and ready to work with you all; especially the Soviet and Dian delegations."
After reading his papers upon sitting down at the table, he soon had the beginnings of a policy. "Although we might favor reunifying all occupied zones in principle, in practice this might become difficult for both political and logistical reasons. However, we do believe all powers appraising each other of their laws, procedures and actions in these zones would be a step in the right direction. For now, my forces are to concentrate on rebuilding in and around the Jakkson area along with the others already so set to; but we will work where needed and asked so long as it is within our capabilities." That said, he watched the other delegations and waited for what was to be decided upon his statements; if anything.
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 09:24
"Now, I respect the idea you just proposed comrade General, but I've got a few concerns I'd like put to bed before I put my endorsement on your plan. First, we need to guard against imperialism. Now, I'm not accusing anybody here so don't jump down my throat, but it's always better safe than sorry. Second, we need to make sure our respective zones don't become divided and hostile. I've been reading a book called The Cold War about a nation called Germany and what became of it after a world war. The conquering parties divided it based on ideology and it just got more hostile from there. Now, it's only fiction but I don't want to see that happen with Cazelia. When my two worries are resolved, I'll gladly approve your proposal."
Etoile Arcture
16-07-2007, 11:29
As the conference continued the Etoile Arcture delegate, Lieutenant General
Knox, stood up to address the room. He was a wiry man in his fifties dressed immaculately in the sandy-coloured uniform of the Expeditionary Forces, almost unaddorned except for a yellow lightning bolt on a sky blue field shoulder flash and the three silver stars that shone on the epaulets of his jacket.
"I am in full agreement with the esteemed representative of the Central Prestonia government and others, that we should avoid a partition of Cazelia which will only lead inevitably to more war and destruction at some future point. As such, the United Technocracy proposes to bring this effort under the multilateral umbrella of a Joint Multinational Stabilisation Force.
Leadership of this force would be rotating, drawn from all the member nations and changing on a three or six month rotating basis.
The mission and remit of this force will be to oversee all reconstruction efforts, coordinate with NGOs on the delivery and distribution of aid, and provide security and the conditions for free elections. All members of this coalition will thus agree to guarantee the territorial integrity of Cazelia and give up any claims to territory in those lands.
Next, we suggest the division of Cazelia into a series of administrative zones for each member nation or alliance to oversee. This will as much be for logistical reasons so that nations do no duplicate effort - as has been seen - and waste resources and cash.
We further suggest that those nations with a prior relationship with Cazelia be assigned zones corresponding with their pre-war areas of influence within the country, such as VISA Corps prior mission to Cazia. Zones may also be created for separate alliances to administer under their own unified commands, as the United Technocracy would prefer to coordinate with their partners in the Free World Alliance, and I am sure the members of the United Federation of Allied Nations would similarly prefer to work together.
In addition to rebuilding, we suggest the creation of a Multinational Security Corps to protect Cazelia's borders, ensure her territorial integrity and equip and train her military and police forces. This Corps would be drawn from all the member nations and be placed under the rotating leadership of the Joint Multinational Stabilisation Force.
Final, but not least, the conditions should be created - by means of security and reconstruction - for the holding of free elections in Cazelia at the first opportunity and monitored by the international community. At which point that Cazelia can again take responsibility for her own security and internal affairs, the Multinational Force should make a phased withdrawal except where invited to remain by the new Cazelia government, such as through multilateral or bilateral negotiations or treaties.
I commend this plan for the delegates consideration and await your decision."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 12:37
ooc- can i get an answer to my question?
[OoC: Could you just RP the NGOs activity in the Cazelian rebuilding thread?]
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 12:42
"I am in full agreement with the esteemed representative of the Central Prestonia government and others, that we should avoid a partition of Cazelia which will only lead inevitably to more war and destruction at some future point. As such, the United Technocracy proposes to bring this effort under the multilateral umbrella of a Joint Multinational Stabilisation Force.
Next, we suggest the division of Cazelia into a series of administrative zones for each member nation or alliance to oversee. This will as much be for logistical reasons so that nations do no duplicate effort - as has been seen - and waste resources and cash.
"Isn't that a little contradictory? We should be aiming for one Cazelia not cutting it more little zones. Other than that Lt. General Knox's plan is excellant."
Van Luxemburg
16-07-2007, 13:01
Still fresh off the boat, General-Major Kristian Weber, in command of the VLCRF, stepped inside the conference room, assisted by two assistants.
'I'm very sorry for my late arrival, Ladies and Gentlemen. Our ships have just arrived up north, and we couldn't rush here any earlier. Anyways, our guys back home had one demand: they wanted us to build the roads. VL Motorways are probably one of the best in the world, you see.'
Etoile Arcture
16-07-2007, 13:24
"Isn't that a little contradictory? We should be aiming for one Cazelia not cutting it more little zones. Other than that Lt. General Knox's plan is excellant."
General Knox nodded at these words, a warm smile on his lips. "We welcome the delegate from Cookesland's support for our plan, and fully agree with them that the aim of the proposed multinational force should be the creation of a unitary, independent and soveriegn Cazelia.
The zoning we propose should purely be for adminstrative and logistical reasons only during the reconstruction effort, and would not constitute in any means or form a claim on any part of the soveriegn territory of Cazelia. The Unitary Technocracy would not like to see what happened to this place "Germany" of which the delegate from Central Prestonia spoke of."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 13:26
Frederick Bremer, who had been asleep on the table, woke up. He checked his watch. "Blazes! We've been here all night!"
He yawned. "More donuts!"
After receiving said Krispy Kremes, he spoke again.
"I think we ought to have a defence pact of some kind. The city council in Mortun already elected to establish a police force."
The strange man with the briefcase, who had said nothing, rose.
"And the point of Administrative Divisions are this," he said, pulling out a map and placing it on the table. "Look, VISA has forces here, here and here," he said, pointing to Mortun, Caz'e City and the Western Coastline. "Everyone is splattered throughout, in terms of military forces. The idea would be to give each nation a sector to administrate with ONLY their military forces, that way we are sure who our enemies are and who isn't. The humanitarian forces can move about the country freely, so long as they have passes.
I propose the creation of a Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority. This body would supervise every aspect of occupation, defense, reconstruction and eventual pullout. The body would be headed by two entities and there would be a council where each of the nations and NGOs would be able to cast their vote and opinion on matters in Cazelia."
Etoile Arcture
16-07-2007, 13:35
I propose the creation of a Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority. This body would supervise every aspect of occupation, defense, reconstruction and eventual pullout. The body would be headed by two entities and there would be a council where each of the nations and NGOs would be able to cast their vote and opinion on matters in Cazelia."
"Etoile Arcture would welcome the creation of a Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority, and the structure of said authority proposed by the delegate from VISA Corp is more than acceptable."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 13:43
"Etoile Arcture would welcome the creation of a Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority, and the structure of said authority proposed by the delegate from VISA Corp is more than acceptable."
"Thank you." said the strange man.
Frederick Bremer turned around to look at him. "Obi, you've done it."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 14:03
"Etoile Arcture would welcome the creation of a Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority, and the structure of said authority proposed by the delegate from VISA Corp is more than acceptable."
The General also agreed with the plan suggested by the by the delegate from VISA Corp, "How will we decided on how to give people sectors? Cookeslandic forces are centered around Caz'e City, and there are a lot of VISA's troops here as well. We overlap."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 14:20
The General also agreed with the plan suggested by the by the delegate from VISA Corp, "How will we decided on how to give people sectors? Cookeslandic forces are centered around Caz'e City, and there are a lot of VISA's troops here as well. We overlap."
"It may seem unfortunate or backwards, but you'd probably have to stake a claim. Unless we found the organization right now, divide Former Cazelia Londii into, say, 40 sq. mi. blocks and just go along and assign them to nations. That way, you can't argue about bias or claims. Caz'e City is the capitol and will come under the control of everyone."
OOC: I'll put together a map. I think only Cazelia Londii will be divided into sectors.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 14:23
"It may seem unfortunate or backwards, but you'd probably have to stake a claim. Unless we found the organization right now, divide Former Cazelia Londii into, say, 40 sq. mi. blocks and just go along and assign them to nations. That way, you can't argue about bias or claims. Caz'e City is the capitol and will come under the control of everyone."
OOC: I'll put together a map. I think only Cazelia Londii will be divided into sectors.
"Okay, we keep the capital neutral, as our headquarters are here."
[OoC: yea TWSP, Maldorians, You, MSV, and ViZion can keep the old claims until we go about uniting Cazelia]
No_State_At_All
16-07-2007, 14:24
The NSAA representatives eat more donuts.
OOC: ffs, someone let me do something... i'm not gonna argue with all of you over terrain that i wont even be keeping.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 14:25
The NSAA representatives eat more donuts.
OOC: ffs, someone let me do something... i'm not gonna argue with all of you over terrain that i wont even be keeping.
[Ooc: what do you want to do?]
OOC: Hmm..., so RL places are mythical in NS?:p Well, that's one way to go about it, what with all the overlapping player claims you've got to either accept for the purposes of the particular RPs they're in or else ignore players en masse. The numbers he mentions refer to the fact that I overestimated the size of my Army component by about twice what it was; hence, rather than weaken myself, why not simply say that I brought along some civvies as would've been needed anyway?:D
IC
"We're glad our Prestonian comrades have brought up the story of Germany; clearly, The Cold War is a novel I must read when I get the chance." General Erst yawned a bit before proceeding to his details. He actually did want to read it, but right now had one quite pressing matter to address first.
"In this case, so long as the essential aid personnel are given the ability to travel freely, that's a good start. However, I do raise the question of how viable that would really be from a security standpoint. Simply put, not all of us here like each other terribly much right now; least of all those of us at the forefront of calling for British Londinium's departure and alternately those most interested in supporting their presence while it remained; with a few exceptions between nations unusually strongly allied to and respectful of each other." No need to name names, now; those indicated knew who they were.
"What of cases where, say, some of my 33,000-odd civilian volunteers seconded to my Army's command as a 'I People's Peace Corps' should come under attack in the McPsychovillian sector? What assurances could I really have that their forces won't just let the local bandits have way with my aid workers? This is a key question which must be answered in some legally suggestive manner, if not binding preferably." He braced for the storm of aghast reactions likely to come after such bald implications, but then again the truth was what it was; in his mind at least. It was his people at stake depending on the answer, after all...
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 15:27
OOC: ffs, someone let me do something... i'm not gonna argue with all of you over terrain that i wont even be keeping.
OOC:
Disclaimer:
The Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority is an equal oppurtunity, affirmative action employer.
And also, have this map (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/fahooglewitz1077/Cazelia.png).
Van Luxemburg
16-07-2007, 15:30
(OOC: Hmm.. Plots F1 and G1, preferably.)
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 15:32
[OoC: NSAA if you want to start a thread about blockading the island off the coast you can, as BL says it's still his]
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 15:35
However, I do raise the question of how viable that would really be from a security standpoint. Simply put, not all of us here like each other terribly much right now; least of all those of us at the forefront of calling for British Londinium's departure and alternately those most interested in supporting their presence while it remained; with a few exceptions between nations unusually strongly allied to and respectful of each other." No need to name names, now; those indicated knew who they were.
"Well, anyone who would be rebuilding Cazelia Southwest would have to agree to join the Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority, which would maintain a loose alliance between the nations. They would have to sacrifice their interests for Cazelia. There can be no progress if conflicts of interest exist. We must eradicate them before we can proceed."
"What of cases where, say, some of my 33,000-odd civilian volunteers seconded to my Army's command as a 'I People's Peace Corps' should come under attack in the McPsychovillian sector? What assurances could I really have that their forces won't just let the local bandits have way with my aid workers?
"If they let the aggressors walk by, then they're negligent and will be expelled from the JCDOA and will be asked to remove themselves from Cazelia, as they violated the collective security of the JCDOA.
BUT, an act of war against the JCDOA will be repelled by all the might of the JCDOA. The Coalition guarantees collective security for Cazelia Southeast, and anyone who tries to interfere with the Coalition's humanitarian duties is a war criminal."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 15:36
(OOC: Hmm.. Plots F1 and G1, preferably.)
((I think they're going to be randomly assigned. However, the borders and coastlines will be policed by forces from all nations, as it is more important to keep people out.))
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 15:39
Frederick Bremer stood up.
"I need to take the names of all the nations that wish to administrate a sector on the map."
"Also, if there is a conflict between ViZionarian forces and Londinian forces that spills into Cazelia, regardless of your nation's interests, the JCDOA will remain neutral and will maintain its borders at all costs."
EDIT: Jolt timewarp.
IC: "I move that we establish the JCDOA and take nominations for both directorial positions."
Van Luxemburg
16-07-2007, 15:41
(OOC: Agreed. However, with some 18 ships hanging around for patrol duties, I'd like to have them stationed in my sector, you see.)
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 15:41
"Cookesland wishes to administer a sector, and i wish to nominate myself for a place on the directorial position." (ooc:if no one objects to me doing that) said General Wetanu
"Well, anyone who would be rebuilding Cazelia Southwest would have to agree to join the Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority, which would maintain a loose alliance between the nations. They would have to sacrifice their interests for Cazelia. There can be no progress if conflicts of interest exist. We must eradicate them before we can proceed."
Fingering his goatee, General Erst shrugged. "Agreed. I'd certainly join, so that takes care of Wagdog's interests here. A good point." No sense in belaboring things, now was there?
"If they let the aggressors walk by, then they're negligent and will be expelled from the JCDOA and will be asked to remove themselves from Cazelia, as they violated the collective security of the JCDOA.
BUT, an act of war against the JCDOA will be repelled by all the might of the JCDOA. The Coalition guarantees collective security for Cazelia Southeast, and anyone who tries to interfere with the Coalition's humanitarian duties is a war criminal."
"This is acceptable. We can agree to and work within this structure. Although the coastal areas should indeed be patrolled by all nations, we would request areas A1 and B2 as our responsibilities so our logistical infrastructure could encompass Cazia as a secondary point to those shared with our Soviet and Dian allies in the north." Now... the haggling was afoot!
[OoC: Where should I base the naval task force I'm deploying? On land the engineering brigades I dispatched are attached to Etoile Arcture's forces.
*The post relevant to this is a few pages earlier.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 15:49
ooc: @ Wagdog the plots will be randomly assigned
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 15:53
[OoC: Where should I base the naval task force I'm deploying? On land the engineering brigades I dispatched are attached to Etoile Arcture's forces.
*The post relevant to this is a few pages earlier.
OOC: All vessels should really just be patrolling the coast and sea for now. Everything's sort of paused.
IC:
"Very well, I will draft a short treaty for everyone to sign in order to join the JCDOA."
"General Wetanu, I would appreciate if we would hold back on nominations, as there is not yet an organization to direct."
OOC: I'll have a treaty soon.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 15:53
"Suggestion, maybe we should use everyone's infrastructure capabilites to contstruct a port for our ships to base and dock in?"
"Suggestion, maybe we should use everyone's infrastructure capabilites to contstruct a port for our ships to base and dock in?"
"This is a good proposal and our engineers could start work immediately should they be assigned a location for this port."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 16:18
"Suggestion, maybe we should use everyone's infrastructure capabilites to contstruct a port for our ships to base and dock in?"
OOC: That can be handled by the JCDOA Senate, which should be established right....
now.
IC:
"I present to you, the Treaty of Caz'e."
The signatories to this treaty agree to the following:
1) The establishment of the Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority (hereafter known as the JCDOA);
2) Hereby renames the area formerly known as ‘Cazelia Londii’ to ‘Cazelia Africus’;
3) Division of Cazelia Africus into sectors, which shall be randomly assigned to member entities to administrate with forces
4) Declare the capitol of the JCDOA to be Caz’e City, which shall be administered by all member entities
5) Declare the coastline and sea around Cazelia Africus to be patrolled and defended by forces of all members
a) entities that control sectors that have coastline are free to position forces along the coast
6) Establisment of the Border Control Zone, an area that extends one half mile into Cazelia Africus from the border, which shall be patrolled by forces from all members,
7) Issuance to all NGOs and humanitarian operations diplomatic clearance passes, which shall allow them free, unrestricted travel throughout Cazelia Africus
8) Establishment of the Senate of the JCDOA;
a) Mandates that all members of the JCDOA are members of the senate;
b) Mandates that all decisions involving the whole of the JCDOA shall be decided by vote in the JCDOA Senate.
c) Mandates that the Senate shall be lead by two entities, who shall also act as the overseers of the JCDOA
9) An offensive or aggressive action against any part of Cazelia Africus shall be construed as an attack upon all
a) All forces of an entity in the JCDOA are expected to come to the aid of the attacked sector.
b) The JCDOA shall be neutral in all conflicts, and interested only in self-preservation
c) Any attempted colonization of Cazelia Africus will be treated as an aggressive action
10) This treaty shall be amended following a motion and majority vote in the JCDOA senate
Bremer pulls out a pen.
"Agreed and therefore Signed,
Frederick L. Bremer,
Director, VISA Corporation Mission in Cazelia"
OOC: If you have a good idea for a clause in the treaty, post it, and I'll edit it in.
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 16:20
[OoC: Could you just RP the NGOs activity in the Cazelian rebuilding thread?]
ooc- ok
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 16:25
ooc- man, this thread moves fast. I have this thing called sleep, I do that a bit.
ic-
Elaine spoke, "New Brittonia, as being neutral to this conflict and only wishes for the good of the people in Cazelia, we abstain, but support the idea of free accessfor the many humanitarian workers."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 16:25
TG for Cookesland.
And sign the treaty.
OOC: Understood about the random bits, VISA Corp.:headbang: When I first saw it I mistook it for a suggestion. Will be offline a while, but it can be assumed for sake of ease that once assigned a sector my people in-theater will get to it.
IC
"As representative for the United Socialist States of Wagdog in Cazelia, I hereby affix my signature and thus the authority of my government as vested in me by the special trust of the National People's Congress." General Erst brusquely employed the pen and did the deed. "Now, although I have no amendments to propose at this time, I shall inform when I may. Once assigned a sector, I can have my forces begin immediately." Things were moving quickly now, but then again that was for the best. The sooner real work started, would also mean the sooner Cazelia could have its full sovereignty back after all...
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 16:32
[OoC: VISA, i replied]
"I, General Haran Wetanu hereby sign and approve this treaty."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 16:34
, as being neutral to this conflict
Which?
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 16:40
Which?
"Well, we've been neutral to the entire invasions, the fights over war crimes, and the giant blenders. We are here just for humanatiarian ade for the people of Cazelia, we want open borders so our workers can get to and from the places quicker and easier."
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 16:43
"Well, we've been neutral to the entire invasions, the fights over war crimes, and the giant blenders. We are here just for humanatiarian ade for the people of Cazelia, we want open borders so our workers can get to and from the places quicker and easier."
"Which borders, the one's in or outside of Cazelia?" said the General chuckling at the current border situation.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 16:48
"Well, we've been neutral to the entire invasions, the fights over war crimes, and the giant blenders. We are here just for humanatiarian ade for the people of Cazelia, we want open borders so our workers can get to and from the places quicker and easier."
"As stated earlier, the JCDOA is neutral to all disputes and conflicts."
OOC: That's goin' in the treaty.
Van Luxemburg
16-07-2007, 16:51
'Very well, I agree. I suppose MoD won't like me contacting them over every little thing, so I'll use my powers as commanding officer of the VLCRF to sign this one.' Weber spoke, while he took a pen which had been offered by one of his assistants.
'Thank you, Adjudant Holm. I was so stupid to forget mine.' He said to the assistant, while he signed the papers.
General-Major vun dem Arméi, Kristian Johannes Weber, Commandant Vun Lëtzebuerger Kazeelië Herbautruppen
He then signed it again in English, for the ones that didn't speak Vun Lëtzebuergesch.
General-Major of the Army, Kristian Johannes Weber, Commander of the Van Luxemburgian Cazelia Rebuilding Force
(OOC: I thought up a name for Cazelia in Vun Lëtzebuergesch, my national language. Hope he doesn't mind. :p )
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 16:59
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12878508']IC paraphrase: NB you are more than welcome into Jakkson. Dian Engineers there could use assitance in a number of simple construction projects in and around Jakkson.
Also you can post up in the agora we constructed that you are willing to help build homes, I'm guessing many Cazelians will accept your offer.
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One project in particular on the long term you may be interested in is a large CO-OP garden outside of Jakkson to supliment the food source there. As well as a new public share market. That is a place people can trade their own services and goods, as well as goods be freely given to people, such as food from joint community efforts as a type of alms point and market.
L.O. Dispatch to N.B. (through computer channels not actually spoken - but a more official offer is attached and this page as a cover letter).
There is a Dian Representative there with some electronics equipment using a satalite uplink feed.
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He also hands a PDA to the NB representative - sliding it across the conference table.
"Here is a list of projects that you are welcome to assit in that ICCD is organizing. If you have any specific project requests feel open to petition the L.O. and it will be sent to appropriate channels. "
He pauses a moment
"You can keep the P.D.A. we realize you might not be able to interface with our technology without it.
There is a small solar pad attached to it as well, we don't think you have our voltage standards. Consider it a gift of state," the slim but muscular man says.
The Dian representative appeared to be a 40 some soilder in Dian BDU including full body armour - his helmet was off - a little over dressed for the situation. Also two others were there but with their helmets on, providing technical assistance, . Anyone in the know knew they arrive via a Helicopter and used relatively new Dian MotorBicycles to get to the conference. It was a five man team but only three were currently inside the building the other two were watching the bikes. Meanwhile a helicopter waited outside of Caz City in a clearing that facilitated the landing.
"Well, thank you for this we have some teams in Jakkson right now trying to get the city afloat.", Elaine said.
ooc- check the IC thread
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 18:47
"Well, now that we have enough members for a senate, I move we begin nominations for Director-ship. I nominate Cookesland."
The World Soviet Party
16-07-2007, 19:13
"I'm sorry to interrupt, but ICCD and us Soviets are holding the area of Jakkson, New Cesar and that other city whose name's baffles me.
We are not going to allow a bunch of new-comers to put everything we have worked for in jeopardy, so please, take your troops out of there."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 19:25
"I'm sorry to interrupt, but ICCD and us Soviets are holding the area of Jakkson, New Cesar and that other city whose name's baffles me.
We are not going to allow a bunch of new-comers to put everything we have worked for in jeopardy, so please, take your troops out of there."
OOC: They shouldn't be there anyway. This is only concerned with Cazelia Londii/Cazelia Africus.
Edit: And another thing. Didn't Urcea cede their territory? Should that be on the map as well?
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 19:57
OOC: They shouldn't be there anyway. This is only concerned with Cazelia Londii/Cazelia Africus.
Edit: And another thing. Didn't Urcea cede their territory? Should that be on the map as well?
"Urcea ceded their territory to ViZion, but ViZion as im sure is a bit preoccupied with their invaision of British Londinium."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 20:05
"Urcea ceded their territory to ViZion, but ViZion as im sure is a bit preoccupied with their invaision of British Londinium."
OOC: So should it be on the map?
Oh, and I nominated you.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 20:06
OOC: So should it be on the map?
Oh, and I nominated you.
"I nominate the VISA Corp for co-directorateship"
[OoC: I guess, let's ask ViZion what he plans to do with that chunk of Cazelia]
"Apologies for our delay, but there were some other matters that needed to be taken care of. In regard to the situation at hand, we do not seek any territorial claims save our administrative facility, and we would be more than willing to place our resources under the control of the nations elected as directors.
This amounts to $350 billion in funding and 100,000 of our peacekeeping forces. However, Vetalian law in regard to their operation will still apply and we reserve the right to change or withdraw our commitment."
OOC: Yes. I just want to clarify that we don't plan on claiming anything other than our administrative facility, and that we'll be under the command of the directors in charge.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 20:20
"Apologies for our delay, but there were some other matters that needed to be taken care of. In regard to the situation at hand, we do not seek any territorial claims save our administrative facility, and we would be more than willing to place our resources under the control of the nations elected as directors.
This amounts to $350 billion in funding and 100,000 of our peacekeeping forces. However, Vetalian law in regard to their operation will still apply and we reserve the right to change or withdraw our commitment."
OOC: Soooo... are you signing the treaty? Or I are confused.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 20:21
[OoC: I guess, let's ask ViZion what he plans to do with that chunk of Cazelia]
OOC: Strangely, NS isn't working for me.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 20:36
OOC: Strangely, NS isn't working for me.
[OoC:It's not working for anybody for whatever reason, theres a thread in issues or technical about it.]
Maldorians
16-07-2007, 20:39
We are stuck between nominating TWSP or ViZon, the only two sensible nations in this operation.
It would be a good idea, in our opinion, to simply give them both control over the process as a kind of co-directorship. The Vetalian reconstruction effort would gladly support both nations' leadership of our efforts, so long as they listen to our input on where to allocate our funds in the most optimal manner.
Central Prestonia
16-07-2007, 21:00
"I, General Alexander Douglas, with the power vested in me by the Prestonian Government, hereby sign and approve this treaty."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 21:02
We are stuck between nominating TWSP or ViZon, the only two sensible nations in this operation.
OOC: I don't believe you can nominate; you haven't signed the treaty. Not to mention that both TWSP and ViZion haven't signed either, which makes them ineligible, for now.
Also, there are TWO (2) directorate positions.
Cookesland
16-07-2007, 21:41
[OoC: anything else we need to go over other than who's on the Directorate?]
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 21:48
[OoC: anything else we need to go over other than who's on the Directorate?]
OOC: The suggestion to build a port for everyone's use.
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 23:49
Bump
"We are ready to move forward with ratification of this treaty, if the rest of the assembled would like to continue with negotiations."
VISA Corp
16-07-2007, 23:54
"We are ready to move forward with ratification of this treaty, if the rest of the assembled would like to continue with negotiations."
"Er, negotiations of what?"
New Brittonia
16-07-2007, 23:59
"I'm sorry to interrupt, but ICCD and us Soviets are holding the area of Jakkson, New Cesar and that other city whose name's baffles me.
We are not going to allow a bunch of new-comers to put everything we have worked for in jeopardy, so please, take your troops out of there."
"We donot have any troops in the entire country.", Elaine said, "We have numerous reconstruction teams there. ICCD explicitly told us of projects that they wanted finished."
"Er, negotiations of what?"
"Whatever is left to be resolved. In particular, the exact specifications for the joint port that will be constructed."
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
17-07-2007, 00:05
"Due to TWSP's protest of humanitarian aid workers coming into the north we will have to up the stakes a little higher and require all aid workers from foreign countries to join the Dian Foreign Legion - undergo training and pass security clearances prior to deployment. In line with this humanitarian aid program that would like to help out in the Jointly Administered Northern Region can give funds to specific Dian Projects such as developmental projects for schools and gardens etc..
Individuals will only have access and contact to areas that fall in line with the Dian Foreign Legion mission in those areas.
ICCD hopes that this will ease any potential tensions with allowing many foreign individuals access to the areas - for whatever reason.
Service in the DFL will be billed for the contract period of the work placement either 3 months 6 months or 1 year with reinlistment. This special Dian Foreign Legion operation is known as H-Branch. H-Branch will specificly be assigned to providing aid and humanitarian developmental projects under command of Dian Security Officers."
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"Also note that the DFL will provide food and shelter as well as health services to those on short term contract. -- also some funds for equipment - and the option of educational training in this case via correspondence. Mutliple years service will see benifits go up - as per standard of the Dian Foreign Legion.The DFL will also take on Civilian Advisors for the DFL H BRanch operations considerations to work closely with organizations and indivduals who have many people within the DFL for aid purposes in Cazelia. Spefic service contract will be made to make service requirements exclusive to Cazelia, unless a further term service contract is signed."
"Local Cazelians will also technically be able to join this program, even though it wasn't intended for that purpose."
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 00:10
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12880711']"Due to TWSP's protest of humanitarian aid workers coming into the north we will have to up the stakes a little higher and require all aid workers from foreign countries to join the Dian Foreign Legion - undergo training and pass security clearances prior to deployment. In line with this humanitarian aid program that would like to help out in the Jointly Administered Northern Region can give funds to specific Dian Projects such as developmental projects for schools and gardens etc..
Individuals will only have access and contact to areas that fall in line with the Dian Foreign Legion mission in those areas.
ICCD hopes that this will ease any potential tensions with allowing many foreign individuals access to the areas - for whatever reason.
Service in the DFL will be billed for the contract period of the work placement either 3 months 6 months or 1 year with reinlistment. This special Dian Foreign Legion operation is known as H-Branch. H-Branch will specificly be assigned to providing aid and humanitarian developmental projects under command of Dian Security Officers."
This will extremely hurt the idea of open boarders for the humanitarian workers., Elaine said.
OOC- i think that twsp assumed i was positioning troops in there.
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 00:19
"Whatever is left to be resolved. In particular, the exact specifications for the joint port that will be constructed."
"I think it should be a mile or two long and should be able to accomodate the largest ships."
This will extremely hurt the idea of open boarders for the humanitarian workers., Elaine
"Um, that's not part of Cazelia Africus. It's ICCD and TWSP territory, so they can do what they want."
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 00:26
"Um, that's not part of Cazelia Africus. It's ICCD and TWSP territory, so they can do what they want."
"Wasn't Jakkson a part of Cazelia? Many NGO's are going there as I speak."
Otaku-do
17-07-2007, 00:35
The Most Wise Empress Kou confers for a moment with her two advisors before address the other delegation.
"Before we sign we would like an admendment to safeguard Cazelia's sovereignty stating that any nation under the JCDOA banner that attempts to create a colony on Cazelia's land it will be treated as an act of aggression against the rest of the JCDOA. I don't see any reasonable way to object to this measure, its not as if any of us were looking to steal Cazelian lands, were we?
"Furthermore we would suggest that if Otaku-do is to have a long term base of operations within this nation it should be built around an airfield in a central location. The reason for this is that if we have hangers available we can keep our Estavalis squadrons here instead of them being stationed in our homeland which the General tells me would allow them to patrol longer and they would also be much easier to scramble to defend the Cazelian people and our own in case of aerial attack thus making the nation safer. It would also mean we can fly in our achitects and other construction specialists, along with other humanitarian aid and materiel for our troops and pilots"
"I think it should be a mile or two long and should be able to accomodate the largest ships."
"Will it be capable of handling more dangerous shipments? We would like to dock LNG tankers and possibly some nuclear plant equipment transports as part of our rebuilding efforts. The power grid will need these facilities in order to keep up with demand, and LNG is the most economic way of supplying gas to the plants at present. With the risk of terrorism and further aggression still significant, we need a safe way to unload these cargoes with minimum risk."
He paused.
"However, the size is more than adequate for our needs and will be able to accommodate all of our non-hazardous equipment and supplies."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 00:44
"Will it be capable of handling more dangerous shipments? We would like to dock LNG tankers and possibly some nuclear plant equipment transports as part of our rebuilding efforts. The power grid will need these facilities in order to keep up with demand, and LNG is the most economic way of supplying gas to the plants at present. With the risk of terrorism and further aggression still significant, we need a safe way to unload these cargoes with minimum risk."
He paused.
"However, the size is more than adequate for our needs and will be able to accommodate all of our non-hazardous equipment and supplies."
"We can just put all the hazardous material at the far end of the port, that way it's isolated."
The Most Wise Empress Kou confers for a moment with her two advisors before address the other delegation.
"Before we sign we would like an admendment to safeguard Cazelia's sovereignty stating that any nation under the JCDOA banner that attempts to create a colony on Cazelia's land it will be treated as an act of aggression against the rest of the JCDOA. I don't see any reasonable way to object to this measure, its not as if any of us were looking to steal Cazelian lands, were we?
OOC: 'Kay. I'll put that in.
"Wasn't Jakkson a part of Cazelia? Many NGO's are going there as I speak."
"Er, yes, however, it was not occupied by British Londinium or Urcea, which is what this conference is concerned with. That area is Sovereign TWSP Property."
OOC: Is everyone clear that we're only dealing with parts of the whole of Cazelia? Yes? Thanks.
IC:
"We still need, however, directors. So far, Cookesland and VISA have been nominated. They still need seconds."
the doors flew open, as a man in marine uniform, sword at his side walked in "i say we do not throw the dogs that are hungry for table scraps" it was Hasley. everyone could tell "and the country is called Cazelia, got it?" he said "Cazelia belongs to Cazelians, not foriegners"
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 00:52
the doors flew open, as a man in marine uniform, sword at his side walked in "i say we do not throw the dogs that are hungry for table scraps" it was Hasley. everyone could tell "and the country is called Cazelia, got it?" he said "Cazelia belongs to Cazelians, not foriegners"
Prior to this,Elaine took a sip of her coffee.Upon hearing this she did a spit-take which landed on Hasley's face and said,
"I thought you died."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 00:54
the doors flew open, as a man in marine uniform, sword at his side walked in "i say we do not throw the dogs that are hungry for table scraps" it was Hasley. everyone could tell "and the country is called Cazelia, got it?" he said "Cazelia belongs to Cazelians, not foriegners"
OOC: Um, yeah, you can call it Cazelia, but as there are territories we're trying to figure out how to tell them apart.
IC: "Kindly sit." Bremer said through clearly agitated clenched teeth. The strange man with Bremer pushed Halsey into a seat.
"It seems the fate of your country is no longer just in your hands. If you had been here previously, you would have learned of the plans to rebuild your country."
Otaku-do
17-07-2007, 00:59
General Tokugawa thinks for a moment before speaking.
"The Vetalia delegation has a point, Otaku-do has four Estavalis squadrons on Cazelia, a total of forty eight units. If a suitable facility were constructed at the port then one of those squadrons, the Imperial second squadrons, known as the Imperial Hammers which totals twelve units plus associated ground crews, could be reassigned to the port to provide aircover to protect shipments from attack. While the other three squarons would continue their regular patrols of the border airspace."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 01:00
General Tokugawa thinks for a moment before speaking.
"The Vetalia delegation has a point, Otaku-do has four Estavalis squadrons on Cazelia, a total of forty eight units. If a suitable facility were constructed at the port then one of those squadrons, the Imperial second squadrons, known as the Imperial Hammers which totals twelve units plus associated ground crews, could be reassigned to the port to provide aircover to protect shipments from attack. While the other three squarons would continue their regular patrols of the border airspace."
"Fine, fine." Bremer said. "But I'm not sure that these attacks will happen. I suppose it's better to be proactive, though."
Prior to this,Elaine took a sip of her coffee.Upon hearing this she did a spit-take which landed on Hasley's face and said,
"I thought you died."
Hasley wiped the coffee off his face "you must be thinking about my brother" he said "the Londinians left without me"
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 02:12
Hasley wiped the coffee off his face "you must be thinking about my brother" he said "the Londinians left without me"
"Well then, this will be interesting.", Rabbi Rabinowitz said.
No_State_At_All
17-07-2007, 02:29
OOC: this is going too fast for me to bother.
Also, thanks whoever suggested a new thread, it'll be done right away.
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 02:49
Hasley wiped the coffee off his face "you must be thinking about my brother" he said "the Londinians left without me"
Bremer looked Hasley straight in the eyes.
"I understand you're concerned about your people. Understand that the people here are trying to rebuild your nation and its people."
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 03:05
"Wait was it you or your brother who was president of Cazelia before the war?" asked General Wetanu
British Londinium
17-07-2007, 03:12
The doors creaked open, and a woman in the crisp, sky blue uniform of the Londinian Air Forces strode into the room, sitting towards the back. Those familiar with the occupation would have instantly recognized the woman as the governor of Cazelia Londii, Air Marshal Catherine Alder. The weight of her crimes clearly had made an impression on her - despite her age of forty-three, she looked more like fifty-five. Her green eyes had a tired look to them, and a resigned, melancholy expression seemed affixed to her face.
"Excuse me," she said hoarsely. "I would like to briefly address the Conference."
No_State_At_All
17-07-2007, 03:14
OOC: lol... I like the brother thing Cazelia.
IC: The NSAA representatives continue to eat doghnuts, keeping a careful eye on proceedings. One was seen to jerk suddenly in his seat at the coffee-spitting incident, then to snigger.
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 03:19
The doors creaked open, and a woman in the crisp, sky blue uniform of the Londinian Air Forces strode into the room, sitting towards the back. Those familiar with the occupation would have instantly recognized the woman as the governor of Cazelia Londii, Air Marshal Catherine Alder. The weight of her crimes clearly had made an impression on her - despite her age of forty-three, she looked more like fifty-five. Her green eyes had a tired look to them, and a resigned, melancholy expression seemed affixed to her face.
"Excuse me," she said hoarsely. "I would like to briefly address the Conference."
"Go ahead, ma'am." said the General abruptly
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 03:20
"Excuse me," she said hoarsely. "I would like to briefly address the Conference."
Bremer looked at her cautiously. "Go ahead."
"Ah yes, let us hear what the good Air Marshal has to say. I trust it will be very informative?"
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 03:24
"Ah yes, let us hear what the good Air Marshal has to say. I trust it will be very informative?"
Father Richardson said with a chuckle,
"Maybe she has brought us all blenders?"
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 03:29
Father Richardson said with a chuckle,
"Maybe she has brought us all blenders?"
"Please, be civil and respectful, difficult as it may be."
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 03:29
"Please, be civil and respectful, difficult as it may be."
"I'll try."
"Please, be civil and respectful, difficult as it may be."
Tikhonov strugglingly suppressed a chuckle and said "Yes, that is proper form. Let's all be civil here".
He then briefly glanced at Father Richardson, showing quite clearly that he found the Father's remarks more than appropriate for the situation. However, he wondered what exactly the British Londinians were going to say.
British Londinium
17-07-2007, 03:33
"For those of you who do not know who I am, I am Air Marshal Catherine Alder," she said. "And the woman in charge of all actions within Cazelia Londii whilst it was under Londinian control. When I was given that task, the Consul summoned me to his office and told me, 'Ms Alder, I am entrusting you with Cazelia Londii. It must be remoulded, recast so that it will be greater than Hasley's Cazelia could ever hope to be.' And I saluted Sir Alistair proudly and said that I would to the best of my ability."
Catherine paused to collect her thoughts and place them in nice, neat, plastic bins.
"But there were many obstacles. An uncooperative populace. Civil disorder. Insurgent attacks. Chaos had taken the land under my charge, and was slowly strangling it to death with its influence. I was the one who ordered the twenty-four-hour curfews, and the one who ordered the establishment of the detention camps. We were desperate, and the moment we granted the Cazelians the slightest ounce of freedom, they used it to lash out at us.
But it wasn't any of that which received international scorn. It was the blender, the most desperate idea I could think of. I remembered the Swanner times, and I remember the order...and calm created by that monster's blenders. Once he started using 'em in bulk, everyone just sort of fell into line. And I hoped to do that.
Did it work? I have no idea. Fortunately for Cazelia, we didn't use it enough to find out.
But you know all of this. What I wanted to tell the people assembled here today, the people who are dedicated to rebuild this country who was to blame for those atrocities - me. It wasn't Kensington, nor the Consul, nor the President, nor the Parliament - it was me. They granted me the power to do as I saw fit in Cazelia Londii, and I, quite honestly, fucked up. The New Brittonians over there needn't be civil to me, Mr Brenner; what have I done to deserve it?
I come here today not to clear my name, but the name of my people, who are defending a practice they don't agree with out of the principle that I had the authority to do so. I come here today to beg forgiveness for British Londinium. I come here today..."
She sighed deeply, then proceeded. "...to apologize, for whatever it is worth, and accept the punishments that the international community deems fit to inflict upon me."
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 03:41
"For those of you who do not know who I am, I am Air Marshal Catherine Alder," she said. "And the woman in charge of all actions within Cazelia Londii whilst it was under Londinian control. When I was given that task, the Consul summoned me to his office and told me, 'Ms Alder, I am entrusting you with Cazelia Londii. It must be remoulded, recast so that it will be greater than Hasley's Cazelia could ever hope to be.' And I saluted Sir Alistair proudly and said that I would to the best of my ability."
Catherine paused to collect her thoughts and place them in nice, neat, plastic bins.
"But there were many obstacles. An uncooperative populace. Civil disorder. Insurgent attacks. Chaos had taken the land under my charge, and was slowly strangling it to death with its influence. I was the one who ordered the twenty-four-hour curfews, and the one who ordered the establishment of the detention camps. We were desperate, and the moment we granted the Cazelians the slightest ounce of freedom, they used it to lash out at us.
But it wasn't any of that which received international scorn. It was the blender, the most desperate idea I could think of. I remembered the Swanner times, and I remember the order...and calm created by that monster's blenders. Once he started using 'em in bulk, everyone just sort of fell into line. And I hoped to do that.
Did it work? I have no idea. Fortunately for Cazelia, we didn't use it enough to find out.
But you know all of this. What I wanted to tell the people assembled here today, the people who are dedicated to rebuild this country who was to blame for those atrocities - me. It wasn't Kensington, nor the Consul, nor the President, nor the Parliament - it was me. They granted me the power to do as I saw fit in Cazelia Londii, and I, quite honestly, fucked up. The New Brittonians over there needn't be civil to me, Mr Brenner; what have I done to deserve it?
I come here today not to clear my name, but the name of my people, who are defending a practice they don't agree with out of the principle that I had the authority to do so. I come here today to beg forgiveness for British Londinium. I come here today..."
She sighed deeply, then proceeded. "...to apologize, for whatever it is worth, and accept the punishments that the international community deems fit to inflict upon me."
Father Richardson said, "God forgives those who are truly sorry, although I can sugget a punishment." he then winked at Tikhonov.
"Yes,", Elaine said, "but that's not why you're here. Well. . . I want to here what everyone else sayss about this now."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 03:41
-snip-
"That's nice of you to apologize; it shows good spirit. However, I still believe you have committed crimes that I, for one, cannot simply ignore. If you willing acknowledge your crimes, you leave me little choice but to at least detain you in this room."
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 03:44
-snip-
"If i can think of anything good to say, then at least you're sorry for what has occured."
British Londinium
17-07-2007, 03:45
"That's nice of you to apologize; it shows good spirit. However, I still believe you have committed crimes that I, for one, cannot simply ignore. If you willing acknowledge your crimes, you leave me little choice but to at least detain you in this room."
"I haven't the will or desire to protest," Alder said. "Do what you will."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 03:48
"You needn't be chained to your seat or anything. There are guards at the door that will stop you if you change your mind."
Bremer sighed. He was confronted with a truly challenging moral conflict. This person was indeed sorry, but she had cause brutal atrocities. Bremer was not going to release her, but was not about to give her a taste of her own medicine either. If it would help, she would only endure the long court procedures for felons and then be sent to a somewhat posh prison.
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 03:52
Elaine spoke,
"Well, I do hope that she does not have to end up doing through the arduous procedures of a monolithic court system ony to end up in a posh, Club Fed, Martha Stewart prisons."
Alexander gave the air marshall a look that could stop a bullet, his red eyes making it worse "dont call it Cazelia Londii, because its not" he said, then looking towards the Cookeslandic delegate "both me and my brother were President, in fact, i still am" he them looked back toward the marshall "you arrested me for no reason at all, in fact you called me back to quell insurgent atcions, not start them, and what about that young woman you blended!"
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 03:54
"I propose that we hold a tribunal to judge Air Marshal Alder for crimes against humanity."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 03:58
Alexander gave the air marshall a look that could stop a bullet, his red eyes making it worse "dont call it Cazelia Londii, because its not" he said, then looking towards the Cookeslandic delegate "both me and my brother were President, in fact, i still am" he them looked back toward the marshall "you arrested me for no reason at all, in fact you called me back to quell insurgent atcions, not start them, and what about that young woman you blended!"
"If you cannot hold your temper, the guards will escort you out."
"I propose that we hold a tribunal to judge Air Marshal Alder for crimes against humanity."
"I would second this motion if not for the lack of Directors."
OOC: In other words, people, who you want should be Director? Remember that there are two of them.
Returning the glance at Father Richardson, Tikhonov rose and began to speak.
"Yes, there are a number of suitable punishments for the Air Marshal and for all those who were involved in this occupation..." However, his mood suddenly changed as if an ancient, painful memory had entered his mind.
"But I don't know if I could authorize any of them. I, like many other men of my age, saw the last days of the Vetalian Empire and the depraved cruelty it inflicted upon its own people...and we fought and died to destroy that evil. There were many people, officials, bureaucrats, and others who served that Empire who were killed, imprisoned, or exiled even though they did nothing wrong. We allowed our rage to spill beyond the guilty to anyone even remotely associated with them...and even against the guilty we went too far in many cases."
He lapsed in to Vetalian for his closing remark. The translator spoke "As we say in Vetalia, once burned by milk, you will blow on cold water...and I will always make sure that I never lapse in to the same cruel, depraved behavior that moved us to take up arms against the Empire in that hot summer of 1951. On behalf of Vetalia, we forgive the British Londinium people for the actions of their government and hold no hostility towards them."
He then said in English "As for you, Air Marshal, we feel that your crimes are heinous, but not necessarily unforgivable...but the penance that must be performed is still to be decided and it will not be kind. We shall detain her until the appropriate time."
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 04:00
Alexander gave the air marshall a look that could stop a bullet, his red eyes making it worse "dont call it Cazelia Londii, because its not" he said, then looking towards the Cookeslandic delegate "both me and my brother were President, in fact, i still am" he them looked back toward the marshall "you arrested me for no reason at all, in fact you called me back to quell insurgent atcions, not start them, and what about that young woman you blended!"
"Mr. Hasley, the area formerly known as Cazelia Londii is currently being called Cazelia Africus for administrative purposes, unless you'd like to suggest a better name of course.
If you cannot control yourself then im afraid we will have to ask you to leave the conference room."
He then said in English "As for you, Air Marshal, we feel that your crimes are heinous, but not necessarily unforgivable...but the penance that must be performed is still to be decided and it will not be kind. We shall detain her until the appropriate time."
"I second that notion."
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 04:11
Alexander gave the air marshall a look that could stop a bullet, his red eyes making it worse "dont call it Cazelia Londii, because its not" he said, then looking towards the Cookeslandic delegate "both me and my brother were President, in fact, i still am" he them looked back toward the marshall "you arrested me for no reason at all, in fact you called me back to quell insurgent atcions, not start them, and what about that young woman you blended!"
"Alex, breathe in, now out.", Father Richardson said.
"I propose that we hold a tribunal to judge Air Marshal Alder for crimes against humanity."
"I third that motion, as we have considerable evidence to try her, but I want trials for those higher up in the BL leadership."
Returning the glance at Father Richardson, Tikhonov rose and began to speak.
"Yes, there are a number of suitable punishments for the Air Marshal and for all those who were involved in this occupation..." However, his mood suddenly changed as if an ancient, painful memory had entered his mind.
"But I don't know if I could authorize any of them. I, like many other men of my age, saw the last days of the Vetalian Empire and the depraved cruelty it inflicted upon its own people...and we fought and died to destroy that evil. There were many people, officials, bureaucrats, and others who served that Empire who were killed, imprisoned, or exiled even though they did nothing wrong. We allowed our rage to spill beyond the guilty to anyone even remotely associated with them...and even against the guilty we went too far in many cases."
He lapsed in to Vetalian for his closing remark. The translator spoke "As we say in Vetalia, once burned by milk, you will blow on cold water...and I will always make sure that I never lapse in to the same cruel, depraved behavior that moved us to take up arms against the Empire in that hot summer of 1951. On behalf of Vetalia, we forgive the British Londinium people for the actions of their government and hold no hostility towards them."
He then said in English "As for you, Air Marshal, we feel that your crimes are heinous, but not necessarily unforgivable...but the penance that must be performed is still to be decided and it will not be kind. We shall detain her until the appropriate time."
"New Brittonia would like to run for director."
The World Soviet Party
17-07-2007, 04:16
The Soviet addressed the Air Marshal:
"Ms. Adler, didnt the Londinian PM announce, just a few days ago, that he would become a new Swanner for the good of his people?
Didnt he get cheered by the parliament for saying that?
And now you tell us it was your fault and ONLY your fault?
Excuse me if I dont believe you, but past events have shown that Londinians tend to be rather... sadistic sometimes"
"I second New Brittonia's nomination, but I must stress that I cannot in good conscience condemn the British Londinium people. Also, I cannot allow any retribution against the British Londinium officials involved in this occupation without fair trial before an impartial court."
The World Soviet Party
17-07-2007, 04:17
"Uh... I never protested against humanitarian workers, they are welcome to come into, and excuse me but it's our custom to call our 'protectorates' like this, Soviet Cazelia, as long as they come unarmed.
I thought you guys meant troops, in which case it wasnt acceptable, but yeah, relief workers are welcomed... even though everything is pretty much done in our side."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 04:18
OOC: Okay, so the nominees are Me, Cookesland and New Brittonia.
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 04:20
"I second New Brittonia's nomination, but I must stress that I cannot in good conscience condemn the British Londinium people. Also, I cannot allow any retribution against the British Londinium officials involved in this occupation without fair trial before an impartial court."
"No, not the people, but this woman was not the only person who ordered these acts. These actions came from higher up and thus, tribunals will unveil these orders. I do not want actions on the British Lundinese people, they did nothing wrong, and my beliefs on the treatment of the people of BL are shown by a quote by the Great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln, 'Malice towards none and charity towards all'"
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 04:22
"I third that motion, as we have considerable evidence to try her, but I want trials for those higher up in the BL leadership."
"Yes, Ms. Adler isn't solely to blame for this."
"I also agree that the Londinian people themselves cannot be put to blame for the actions of their leaders."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 04:27
"Cross the bridge when you come to it..." Bremer muttered.
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 04:33
"Cross the bridge when you come to it..." Bremer muttered.
"Huh?", Renee asked
Central Prestonia
17-07-2007, 05:42
General Douglas stood and began to speak slowly. "I believe that there must be some tribunal for the crimes committed, but I only see two people at fault here: Consul Davidson for ordering the executions by blender, and the Air Marshal for carrying them out. If I may also make a suggestion to the Air Marshal, I believe your military needs to be taught the concept of legal vs. illegal orders. A little refresher course in ethics and respect for one's enemy might be good also."
"I second New Brittonia's nomination, but I must stress that I cannot in good conscience condemn the British Londinium people. Also, I cannot allow any retribution against the British Londinium officials involved in this occupation without fair trial before an impartial court."
General Douglas stood and began to speak slowly. "I believe that there must be some tribunal for the crimes committed, but I only see two people at fault here: Consul Davidson for ordering the executions by blender, and the Air Marshal for carrying them out. If I may also make a suggestion to the Air Marshal, I believe your military needs to be taught the concept of legal vs. illegal orders. A little refresher course in ethics and respect for one's enemy might be good also."
"Completely agreed with you both." General Erst said. "Davidson must bear the ultimate responsibility for reintroducing said ghastly punishment, and Air Marshal Adler for ordering it implemented in Cazelia." He turned his eyes on her though not with undue hostility. More appraisingly than anything else, really; like one might examine a curiosity. "Although the impartiality of that court may be a problem all the same. I cannot in good conscience nominate my own government for such a tribunal, since our position is known. It is a legitimate dilemma we have here, seemingly..." He thought a moment, then reutrned to eyeing Adler.
"Now, Swanner's actions may have brought order after-a-fashion to British Londinium; although frankly I cringe at the thought of what disorder could be so grave as to possibly justify the introduction of such horrific penalties, since even the mythical Draco himself would likely have stopped short of them. However, there is sense in limiting wrath here. I don't know what negotiating position the talks between yourselves and ViZion stand at as yet, but I do believe they are not likely to be kind either. Your actions tonight may just help in that regard, for forgiveness must be earned as we also concur with our Vetalian friends. Might you have any requests of any of us regarding the terms of your detention, perhaps?" It couldn't hurt to ask, especially not if that helped the still-sour diplomatic environment regarding this issue.
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 14:45
"Okay, look," said Bremmer, a little irriatated. "It's not our concern. We're trying to elect directors and build a port now. I would greatly appreciate if you would state which two people you'd like to be directors."
Cookesland
17-07-2007, 15:33
"Well everbody vote on who will be the two directors and also suggest a place for a port where the JCD-OA can dock and unload ships bringing relief and supplies to Cazelia."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 15:48
"Well everbody vote on who will be the two directors and also suggest a place for a port where the JCD-OA can dock and unload ships bringing relief and supplies to Cazelia."
"I vote for myself and Cookesland, and suggest Orlock."
Etoile Arcture
17-07-2007, 15:59
"In the matter of regional directors, I nominate the delegate for Cookesland.
For the issue of war crimes trials, I am in full agreement with other delegates that those bearing the command responsibility for the crimes performed in Cazelia should be brought to justice."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 16:08
"In the matter of regional directors, I nominate the delegate for Cookesland.
For the issue of war crimes trials, I am in full agreement with other delegates that those bearing the command responsibility for the crimes performed in Cazelia should be brought to justice."
OOC: There's two directors.
"stop!" yelled Alexander "it wasnt the air marshall, she was only given the order to do so, it was the consul! he ordered her to commit these crimes, hell he even gave her a mile high blender, it is that consul who should go on trails!" he said
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 16:54
"stop!" yelled Alexander "it wasnt the air marshall, she was only given the order to do so, it was the consul! he ordered her to commit these crimes, hell he even gave her a mile high blender, it is that consul who should go on trails!" he said
"We'll have a tribunal! Now calm down! We're trying to get some administrative stuff out of the way!"
No_State_At_All
17-07-2007, 17:10
"We do not wish to see those who did not properly control their underlings (staring at the air marshal pityingly) get away without being punished. No_State_At_All wishes to hold the British Londinian government equally responsible for any crimes the good air marshal is tried for. The ultimate responsibility for a soldier's crimes rests with the person in ultimate control of the army, not an arbitrary figure in the command structure."
OOC: she cant have come up with the idea and just gone and done it with no input from others, and for something like this, either direct input from the head of all military or someone similar, or possibly the entire nation thinking that this way of working is acceptable. Anywho, feel free to ignore me, people.
The NSAA representatives have stopped eating doughnuts now.
"i'm just trying to make a point" he said "it had to be the consul, i mean, a governor couldnt have built gaint blenders in Cazelia"
"It is important to note, however, that 'just following orders' does not exculpate her or any other member of the occupation from their crimes. Even if the consul ordered it, she would still be an accomplice to the crime and would have to be tried accordingly.
However, we still need a tribunal to review the evidence fairly and objectively."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 19:44
"If there are no objections, I will now declare VISA Corp and Cookesland the directors. Speak now or forever hold your peace."
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"I propose we construct a fortress in sector F1, which is the closest we'll get to Cabelle. From there we can attempt to reclaim the island in some way, which is what the Cazelians seem to want," Bremer said, nodding in Hasley's direction.
"Futhermore, I propose construction begin on one mile-long port at sector G1 and another mile-long port at sector C1."
VISA Corp
17-07-2007, 19:49
Bremer was handed a piece of paper and he read it.
"It seems we have no use for the fortress. Cabelle has just been surrendered to coalition forces by the Londinians."
Otaku-do
17-07-2007, 23:47
"We feel that everyone from the Air Marshal up must shoulder some blame for the horrific execution carried out here". Empress Kou said sadly. "However there have been reports of innocen people being gunned down in their homes so full investigation at all levels is needed.
"Further more, if the Imperial Hammer Estavalis squadron is to provide protection for docking high risk shipments, it should be considered that only one of the docks should be used for the task so that the squadron can have a permanent base for the duration of their stay and not be overstretched logisticly.
"We are also most pleased to hear news of Cabelle now being under the protection of coalition forces."
No_State_At_All
17-07-2007, 23:48
One of the NSAA military representatives looked momentarially like he was listening to something (hes wearing an earpiece if you care), whispered to his companions, and then stood up. "We can confirm that the island has been surrendered. And also, we would like to say that we do not hold any of the personell responsible for the blender atrocity free of blame, no human can participate in such an endeavour and not have guilt attach to them."
The man sat down, and then stood up again hurriedly. "oh yes, and we support those now holding the directors positions"
New Brittonia
17-07-2007, 23:53
'Wow!", Elaine said, "Is there any parliamentary procedure in here? I vote for myself and VISA corp as director."
British Londinium
17-07-2007, 23:56
"i'm just trying to make a point" he said "it had to be the consul, i mean, a governor couldnt have built gaint blenders in Cazelia"
OOC: Actually, they weren't "built". They were bought from a military surplus store located in Syria. If you want to bomb it, the address is 201 9th Avenue, Damascus, Syria Londii, SYL 2014
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
18-07-2007, 00:45
"Well everbody vote on who will be the two directors and also suggest a place for a port where the JCD-OA can dock and unload ships bringing relief and supplies to Cazelia."
If no alternate port can be found you can unload supplies in Jakkson after the ships are inspected at sea. Goods can then be shipped to their destinations if a mechanism exists for the shipping. However ICCD could supply some cargo hovercrafts to offload supplies along any level coasts direct from the ship provided a crane or a Dian Maritime Ships coordinate with the releif mission should a docking port not be available.
This could be coordinated.
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 01:00
'Wow!", Elaine said, "Is there any parliamentary procedure in here? I vote for myself and VISA corp as director."
OOC: I tired that. It got ignored. People would rather go on about BL and the blender mish-mash, and forget that that's not what this is about.
Also, barring further nominations, it looks like us three are the only ones who want to be directors, so I think I'll just increase the number to three and get it over with.
If you want to bomb it, the address is 201 9th Avenue, Damascus, Syria Londii, SYL 2014
Hee hee hee. I'll keep that in mind.
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 01:27
OOC: The current Treaty of Caz'e:
The signatories to this treaty agree to the following:
1) The establishment of the Joint Coalition Defense and Occupation Authority (hereafter known as the JCDOA);
2) Hereby renames the area formerly known as ‘Cazelia Londii’ to ‘Cazelia Africus’;
3) Division of Cazelia Africus into sectors, which shall be randomly assigned to member entities to administrate with forces
4) Declare the capitol of the JCDOA to be Caz’e City, which shall be administered by all member entities
5) Declare the coastline and sea around Cazelia Africus to be patrolled and defended by forces of all members
a) entities that control sectors that have coastline are free to position forces along the coast
6) Establisment of the Border Control Zone, an area that extends one half mile into Cazelia Africus from the border, which shall be patrolled by forces from all members,
7) Issuance to all NGOs and humanitarian operations diplomatic clearance passes, which shall allow them free, unrestricted travel throughout Cazelia Africus
8) Establishment of the Senate of the JCDOA;
a) Mandates that all members of the JCDOA are members of the senate;
b) Mandates that all decisions involving the whole of the JCDOA shall be decided by vote in the JCDOA Senate.
c) Mandates that the Senate shall be lead by three entities, who shall also act as the overseers of the JCDOA, known as directors
9) An offensive or aggressive action against any part of Cazelia Africus shall be construed as an attack upon all
a) All forces of an entity in the JCDOA are expected to come to the aid of the attacked sector.
b) The JCDOA shall be neutral in all conflicts, and interested only in self-preservation
c) Any attempted colonization of Cazelia Africus will be treated as an aggressive action
10) This treaty shall be amended following a motion and majority vote in the JCDOA senate
And the map (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/fahooglewitz1077/Cazelia.png). If you want a part of the map, say so, but the map will be randomly assigned. You only need to state your desire to administrate a sector or three.
Central Prestonia
18-07-2007, 01:33
General Douglas stared at the map for about ten minutes before he spoke. "If it's possible, I'd like to have the Prestonians administrating sectors I1 and I2."
Cookesland
18-07-2007, 01:45
General Wetanu looked at the map, "hmmm....we would like to administer A3, A4, and B4 if possible."
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 01:45
General Douglas stared at the map for about ten minutes before he spoke. "If it's possible, I'd like to have the Prestonians administrating sectors I1 and I2."
"It's not possible, as I learned that the Maldorians are taking over the island soon independent of the Coalition."
OOC: And I haven't updated the map because I'm busy (read: lazy).
Central Prestonia
18-07-2007, 01:49
"Ok, are sectors F1, F2, and G1 available?"
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 01:52
"Yes, they are."
"And if no one has further objections, then Myself, Cookesland and New Brittonia will be directors. I shall take the liberty of setting up a tribunal for the Air Marshall."
Bremer looked towards the Air Marshall, making sure she was still there.
Cookesland
18-07-2007, 01:55
"Let us begin the Coalition Tribunal for Cazelia."
New Brittonia
18-07-2007, 01:59
"Yes, they are."
"And if no one has further objections, then Myself, Cookesland and New Brittonia will be directors. I shall take the liberty of setting up a tribunal for the Air Marshall."
Bremer looked towards the Air Marshall, making sure she was still there.
"I do not disagree. I think that each director can head different portions of the whole Cazelia reconstruction process. VISA will take the tribunals, Cookesland will take care of security, and I will head the reconstruction.", Elaine said.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
18-07-2007, 02:05
ICCD is willing to administer any of the following divisions - but not necessarily all of them. In Order of acceptance
A1 (would be ICCD's first pick for administration in the Charter area)
B1 (only with B2)
B2 (only with A1)
So the three would be A1, B1, B2
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If there is no one to fill these zones ICCD would also be willing to administer them on behalf of the body.
C1 (only with B1, B2 and A1)
A2-A6
As for a tribunal for war crimes. ICCD's official statement from the L.O. is that it was admitted to. She would be put to death in ICCD, or exiled. We are strongly against a prison sentence. However we firmly beleive that the Cazelians should be able to decide on sentencing, since the crimes were committed in their civil jurisdiction.
Central Prestonia
18-07-2007, 02:17
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12884682']we firmly beleive that the Cazelians should be able to decide on sentencing, since the crimes were committed in their civil jurisdiction.
While this is a noble sentiment, the fact is that if the Cazelians were in charge of tribunals the Air Marshal would probably not get a fair trial. We believe that everyone is entitled to an impartial trial and we must therefore insist that the trial take place under the direction of a neutral third party.
New Brittonia
18-07-2007, 02:19
On the grounds that all humanitarian workers are given easy and safe passage between zones, the United Socialist States of New Brittonia would like to administer no zones, although we would like a Cazelian General Consul to represent all New Brittonian interests in New Brittona We would like the grounds of this compound to be under the same extraterritoriality as all other New Brittonian Embassies are treated. Further, we would like to ask for any nation to allow us to build a New Brittonian Reconstruction Centre, to coordinate all New Brittonian relief efforts.
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 03:01
"I do not disagree. I think that each director can head different portions of the whole Cazelia reconstruction process. VISA will take the tribunals, Cookesland will take care of security, and I will head the reconstruction.", Elaine said.
OOC: I'll take care of administrative tasks too. And I think we all have a say in matters, but I have a bigger say in tribunals just like you have a bigger say in reconstruction.
I'll make a thread for the Tribunal.
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 03:04
On the grounds that all humanitarian workers are given easy and safe passage between zones, the United Socialist States of New Brittonia would like to administer no zones, although we would like a Cazelian General Consul to represent all New Brittonian interests in New Brittona We would like the grounds of this compound to be under the same extraterritoriality as all other New Brittonian Embassies are treated. Further, we would like to ask for any nation to allow us to build a New Brittonian Reconstruction Centre, to coordinate all New Brittonian relief efforts.
"I propose we build a headquarters in Caz'e, which will be given to the Cazelians upon pullout for whatever use they deem necessary."
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
18-07-2007, 03:04
Provided no laws are broken and there is no risk to the population of Cazelia ICCD gaurenties the safety of aid workers in its administered districts. In C.a. , and we welcome a New Brittonian Reconstruction Centre, to coordinate all New Brittonian relief efforts, in C.a. in Cazia, or in either of the other two zones, where it would be best placed, and not protested by the Cazelians.
ICCD would be willing to help construct the structure and feels that local consultation with the locals in that zone about their feelings on the subject will be a good first step.
"If possible, we would like to be assigned the areas most in need of having their power and water infrastructure reconstructed. These are our focus areas and our personnel are the most skilled in working in these fields.
We would also have no problem assisting another nation in territories under their control and would delegate senior administration to the controlling nation."
Central Prestonia
18-07-2007, 03:08
Our peacekeepers from Caz'e City are headed to our administrative zone to begin reconstruction as soon as possible.
OOC: Can we assume that Orlock is a ghost town after BL gassed it or are there still people there?
New Brittonia
18-07-2007, 03:15
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12884801']ICCD would be willing to help construct
Provided no laws are broken and there is no risk to the population of Cazelia ICCD gaurenties the safety of aid workers in its administered districts. In C.L. , and we welcome a New Brittonian Reconstruction Centre, to coordinate all New Brittonian relief efforts, in C.L. in Cazia, or in either of the other two zones, where it would be best placed, and not protested by the Cazelians.
This is the planned image of the building, we could have one authority to coordinate all reconstruction located in C'zae city.
http://www.smart-soft.com/misc/wind-river-office-building.jpg
http://www.smart-soft.com/misc/wind-river-office-building.jpg
We want to have smaller regional offices to coordinate local reconstruction. This is what they could look like.
http://www.southernrealtyaberdeen.com/land_&_commercial_aberdeen_commerce_601_west.jpg
http://www.southernrealtyaberdeen.com/land_&_commercial_aberdeen_commerce_601_west.jpg
Finally, we should have mid-sized offices in the smaller cities.
http://www.preserveindiana.com/images/ftwayne/116-122.jpg
http://www.preserveindiana.com/images/ftwayne/116-122.jpg
"In regard to urban development, our government wants to construct a series of centralized facilities in Caze City to coordinate all of our reconstruction commands in to a single area. This would aid in security efforts and would allow us to better coordinate work with other nations. In addition, they would provide a commanding presence on the skyline and would open up plentiful office and residential space in the capitol following the completion of reconstruction and transfer of authority.
"The structures would look something like this; this image is of a similar development in Vetalia City:
http://sunsite.cs.msu.su/moscow/new_arbat.gif
"In addition, for security purposes here is an image of the standard ZIV-111 limousine in one of our reconstruction zones. These are used by Vetalian officials, and only our officials. These are not issued outside of the Vetalian government and no official will be using any other vehicle. If anyone comes to a work site claiming to be a Vetalian official and is not using a ZIV-111, they are automatically suspect and must be arrested or detained."
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/38/50/f93b2169b517f8c1a6201aff348e0184.jpg
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 03:45
"We welcome any building construction and wish that any vehicles that carry nonmilitary personnel bear the Red Cross.
"Also, the Tribunal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12884858#post12884858) has started."
New Brittonia
18-07-2007, 03:51
"In regard to urban development, our government wants to construct a series of centralized facilities in Caze City to coordinate all of our reconstruction commands in to a single area.
The New Brittonian plan was to have centralized offices, but we need regional ones that are more in touch with the people, reducing the red-tape.
VISA Corp
18-07-2007, 03:52
"We support New Brittonia's plan. We wish to begin construction of the Main HQ in Caz'e City immediately."
New Brittonia
18-07-2007, 04:15
VISA, check here
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12884917&postcount=78
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
18-07-2007, 04:57
Here is a look at one of ICCD's main civil administrative facilities in Cazelia
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5449/centerbv4.jpg
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/599/img1102sizedfj8.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1636/maybl12bqn4.gif
Note ICCD has underground consructions as well in addition to the above ground component.
New Brittonia
18-07-2007, 04:58
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12884990']Here is a look at one of ICCD's main civil administrative facilities in Cazelia
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5449/centerbv4.jpg
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4796/maybl13bod6.gif
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/599/img1102sizedfj8.jpg
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1636/maybl12bqn4.gif
Note ICCD has underground consructions as well in addition to the above ground component.
Not the most modern, don't you think?
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
18-07-2007, 05:07
"We welcome any building construction and wish that any vehicles that carry nonmilitary personnel bear the Red Cross.
"Also, the Tribunal (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12884858#post12884858) has started."
ICCD's standard humanitarian symbol is the yellow sun 0 . where as the Dian Military vehicles don't usually have markings. but instead have ICCD on them in gold/yellow where it doesn't interfere in the vehicle function, such as military combat - otherwise it may not appear, but when required a state flag may be used on a pole shaft should there be one. The state flag used is the white gold trimed flag with yellow golden sun. The simple civil flag is the white flag with yellow sun.