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Here's the OOC thread for rebuilding Cazelia...

IC thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532886

I liked the spelling...

Also, I dont have anything to rebuild. who wants what in the way of supplies for the rebuilding? I guess i can do that.

Also, we need an update map

Wow whats the Soldier to Civilian Ratio in Cazelia like 5 - 1?

oh yea rebuild that airport in the RP thread

With ViZion now at war with BL, who exactly is in charge of the rebuilding effort now?

With ViZion now at war with BL, who exactly is in charge of the rebuilding effort now?

I wouldn't have a problem doing it

I've been talking to ViZion over MSN, he wants to get Cazelia back on it's feet as soon as possible. I already shot Cazelia a TG, if he wants to take his nation back as soon as elections commence.

I'll be taking care of the region around New Riverport and Orlock, at least. I'll be building a naval base in or near Orlock, and both New Riverport and Orlock will receive airports/AFB's, from where my aircraft can operate. I'll also be bringing the motorway network up to VL standards there.

I've been talking to ViZion over MSN, he wants to get Cazelia back on it's feet as soon as possible. I already shot Cazelia a TG, if he wants to take his nation back as soon as elections commence.

I'll be taking care of the region around New Riverport and Orlock, at least. I'll be building a naval base in or near Orlock, and both New Riverport and Orlock will receive airports/AFB's, from where my aircraft can operate. I'll also be bringing the motorway network up to VL standards there.

I though we decided we weren't going to divide up Cazelia Londii into little spheres of influence but rather put all our military as a coalition force.

I'm merely focusing on that region, since I don't have enough troops to cover the entire area. If I'd have more troops to send (which I don't, due to political considerations etc.), I'd operate in all of Cazelia Londii.

It's been mentioned before I know, but it's worth saying again that we desparately need an IC conference amongst everyone to decide how to pogress the reconstruction, otherwise things are going to get messy.

The peacekpeeing force also needs to be put under a single joint command (with either one lead nation, such as the biggest per-GDP contributor to the force, or a rotating leadership like in NATO and UN operations).

You're right about the conference. Also, I think the best would be to have a rotating leadership. Otherwise, you'd have people contributing a little bit extra than others just to be the commander, which wouldn't work at all, IMO. Ofcourse, only the ones who would want to be the commander should sign up for rotating leadership.

Rotating leadership is probably going to be our best bet.

I'll host a conference if no else wants to

Hosting a conference wouldn't be a problem here either, that's not the problem. I guess the real problem would be getting everyone to participate.

Now that i think of it why don't we host it in Cazelia? The Capital is pretty safe now and the airport has been rebuilt.

How about his we send out a message all nations currently involved in the Cazelian joint reconstruction project. Those who reply, reply, those who don't, don't. I mean we have like 15 nations sending troops and aid and such, so even if just a few of us got together it could still work.

I thought you meant that in the first place, and that we had to decide under who's supervision it would be taking place (I mean, in a VL building/base, one of your bases, etc.) :p

I thought you meant that in the first place, and that we had to decide under who's supervision it would be taking place (I mean, in a VL building/base, one of your bases, etc.) :p

well now thats what i mean lol

We can designate a building to be the joint coalition's headquarters in a part of the city kind of like The Green Zone

Oh yeah and we should start including Cazelia in more of this stuff i meant after all it is his nation

Yes, as I said, already TG'ed him. No reply atm. I'll keep you guys up-to-date on that one, or maybe he'll post himself.

okay just checking

I'd like to try getting my feet wet a bit more, also if any mainly left wing regions are interested I'd happily move Otaku-do to a new region to make communication a bit easier and so I don't feel silly posting forces to borders with nations in other regions lol.

Rotating leadership is probably going to be our best bet.

I'll host a conference if no else wants to

Please do. We need to straighten this out, as I got confused as to what the heck ViZion was doing in Cazelia.

So, here's what the most recent map looked like:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/fahooglewitz1077/cazeliafv6.png

And here's my claims. Original in red, current in blue.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/fahooglewitz1077/VISAMiC.jpg

How many times must I say it? We are NOT carving up the formerly Londinian land into a bunch of separately-controlled areas; it will fall under everyone's jurisdiction, and EVERYONE will play a part in its security and its rebuilding.

Very well. Just stay out of Mortun.

EDIT: On second thought, who put you in charge?

ViZion now owns my claim. I don't feel like updating the map.

Very well. Just stay out of Mortun.

EDIT: On second thought, who put you in charge?

Nobody. But if you think that this isn't the best course of action, go ahead and carve up the territory; just be ready when Vizion marches into it and takes the whole thing over. And if he doesn't, we will.

We don't own anything other than an administrative and residential compound outside Cazia and any bases for our peacekeeping troops. Unless this is meant to be an occupation in addition to a rebuilding effort, this land does technically belong to the Cazelian government and people (or what's left of it). If it is an occupation, we would immediately rescind our claims to ViZion or the Cazelians and work through them to rebuild the country.

Plus, it just wouldn't make sense to divide it in to claims...why do that when we could more efficiently devote our efforts to rebuilding the nation when and where it's needed? Pool resources and devote them to the nation as a whole, as it's needed.

Nobody. But if you think that this isn't the best course of action, go ahead and carve up the territory; just be ready when Vizion marches into it and takes the whole thing over. And if he doesn't, we will.

Hopefully I'll have taken a side by then.

At the very least, I have Mortun.

I'd propose that we decide at the conference to divide Cazelia into adminstrative zones so that each nation would be clear on their responsibilities, and it would avoid the current confusion and also allow us to judge the progress of the reconstruction. At present, it seems Caz'e City is recieving the lion share of the help with most of the country still waiting for assistance to arrive.

I'd propose that we decide at the conference to divide Cazelia into adminstrative zones so that each nation would be clear on their responsibilities, and it would avoid the current confusion and also allow us to judge the progress of the reconstruction. At present, it seems Caz'e City is recieving the lion share of the help with most of the country still waiting for assistance to arrive.

Which conference? Or should I just start one?

we've decided to hold a conference in Caz'e City for all the forces that are rebuilding Cazelia, including the Cazelians.

I agree with McPsychoville, we shouldn't be carving up Cazelia Londii but rather administrating it together.

At present, it seems Caz'e City is recieving the lion share of the help with most of the country still waiting for assistance to arrive.

i agree we should start focusing more on outside the capital

May I come. we have not applied any military force but we have brought aid.

lets not argue too much? anyway, i still offer whatever i can do for people (other than MSV) involved in the rebuild.

May I come. we have not applied any military force but we have brought aid.

Anyone who's helping reconstruction is welcome, im going to start an IC thread for the conference

I'm neutral, so I won't take any claims

Conference Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532967)