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Insurgents destroy Caz'e city airport and refinery

Cazelia
13-07-2007, 04:03
IDC news, Cazelia Londii

today, bombs went off at Caz'e city international airport. it occured when 18men with AK-47s broke into the building, and setting bombs in the terminal, several Londinian aircraft, part of the runway and the fuel reserves, killing none but crippling the airport

2 days later, more bombs went off at the oil refinery, destroying 4 oil storage tanks and the refinery itself. these attacks happened for no reason, but the group who claimed they were responsible were the Cazius Makus, meaning Tacchus in english. they responded by saying "the tacchus is coming, and all who wish to be repented lay down your arms and convert! Convert and repent!"

that is all for today, hope to see tommorow. i'm Dan Seacart signing off
Avisron
13-07-2007, 04:17
[Open Message]

From: The Office of the Prime Minister

David Wallace, Prime Minister of the Libertarian Federation, wishes to express his deepest condemnation of the atrocities the Cazius Makus have committed recently. Resorting to violence as a preemptive weapon is surely the sign of a desperate entity.

I pledge the LFA's full support in a surgical campaign to eliminate these cowards from the universe. Upon the approval of Cazelia, units of the Avisronian armed forces will begin moving towards said nation in order to help eradicate those who threaten global stability.

[END]
Zackaroth
13-07-2007, 04:22
[Open Message]

From: The Office of the Prime Minister

David Wallace, Prime Minister of the Libertarian Federation, wishes to express his deepest condemnation of the atrocities the Cazius Makus have committed recently. Resorting to violence as a preemptive weapon is surely the sign of a desperate entity.

I pledge the LFA's full support in a surgical campaign to eliminate these cowards from the universe. Upon the approval of Cazelia, units of the Avisronian armed forces will begin moving towards said nation in order to help eradicate those who threaten global stability.

[END]

Zackaroth would like to remind Mr. Wallace,Cazelia is under British Londiumdian control. They should redirect there requesting to send aid the British Londiumdians.
Avisron
13-07-2007, 04:27
Zackaroth would like to remind Mr. Wallace,Cazelia is under British Londiumdian control. They should redirect there requesting to send aid the British Londiumdians.

[Open Message]

From: The Office of the Prime Minister

Or perhaps the Cazelians will forward our request to the appropriate authorities. Regardless, we'll respect British Londiumdians wishes.

[END]
New Brittonia
13-07-2007, 04:30
The United Socialist States of New Brittonia condemn this attack and would like to distribute a sum of money to the government of this nation.

Signed,
Deputy Foreign Minister
Kevin Lynch
Lorkhan
13-07-2007, 06:29
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The Nationalist Republic of Lorkhan has warned Cazelia of hostilities toward our trade partners in the past. We have expressed great discontent toward Cazelia's inability to co-opperate for the better of British Londinium's interests. We consider this attack to be a hinderance to not only British Londinium, but all who stand to gain from the stabilization of these territories.

As we promised, in retaliation for these attacks we will issue a batallion of PDF troops followed by a company of Varjsoldat. You will come to find that angering Anglo and angering Nords result in two very drasticaly different outcomes. A very bloody outcome, particularly. May the gods have mercy on your pathetic souls, and a place for you in death.

On behalf of the Grand Nasier Tiber Valias,
Military Executor Kraft
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McPsychoville
13-07-2007, 07:37
We warned the Consul that to give the Cazelians in their territory any sort of a foothold would be a mistake, and this is a horrible vindication of our standpoint. We now implore the Consul to reinstate the twenty-four-hour curfew for the continued safety of the citizens under his control; their basic needs will not suffer through the continued efforts of the VISA Corporation and insurgencies will be averted. However, we would advise Lorkhan to be less hasty with their troop deployment - the area is already under Londinian control and they are perfectly capable of suppressing any further attacks.

Further, we would like to remind everybody that these men are insurgents. They do not represent the Cazelian population, they don't even represent the populace in Cazelia Londii - they are extremists. We are happy to pledge our support to wiping the insurgent groups out, but no more.
VISA Corp
13-07-2007, 15:35
their basic needs will not suffer through the continued efforts of the VISA Corporation

OOC: Gee, thanks.

IC: As our main headquarters of operation is on the airport grounds in Cazelia Londii, we are increasing out defense. A battalion of the Elite Forces will be sent in to ensure that no one disrupts our activities.

Coincedentally, all guards around aid distribution points will be tripled, as there are always large crowds, essentially making them terrorist fodder.

And finally, house-to-house searches for illegal materials shall be conducted in Mortun, VISA's Cazelian possesion.

~Frederick Bremer
Director, VISA Mission in Cazelia
Cookesland
13-07-2007, 16:01
Things were not going well for Wiikikkats, now that the airport was crippled. Their supply line would be drained for a little.

Lucius, was trying to keep things going as well as possible even though headquarters was in a furor. Most of them had seen the attacks, for the headquarters were only a few blocks away from the airport.

His office phone then rang,

"Yes, want whatever it takes to repair that tarmac ASAP: make it, buy it, i don't care."

as soon as he hung up it rang again,

"Yes, we're rebuilding the refinery and the storage tanks."

"They're more protected now and we modernized them a bit."

"No, we also have to repair the gas pipes that were destroyed in the explosion."

"They pipes were pretty old they were destroyed, i doubt they would have lasted much longer if they didn't get blown up. "

Then he hung up and once again thanked his stars he decided to fly to Cazelia a day earlier than he was supposed to.
British Londinium
13-07-2007, 18:20
OOC: Let me just ask how said attack could occur, since I RPed house-to-house sweeps and confiscation of all weapons. And, now, you're begging for me to kick your ass, allow me to do so.

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Official Communiqué

Open Declaration:

As of now, all Cazelian citizens are no longer permitted to be outside of designated internment camps which will be erected in every city under Londinian control. Anyone who resists, protests, or attempts to subvert the reconstruction process will be executed promptly.

Sincerely,
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The Rt. Hon. Sir Alistair Davidson, MP
Consul of British Londinium
Lorkhan
13-07-2007, 18:30
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Official Response to McPsychoville


Our faith in British Londinium and the other members of the coalition's effectiveness in suppressing this insurgency has dwindled based on recent events.

Cazelian insurgents continue to spread international propaganda aimed at derailing the British Londinium government's efforts. The Cazelian Ball incident is proof of the occupying forces inability to perform critical missions without causing unnecessary disaster, and has likely swayed more foot soldiers to the insurgent cause. Now, an oil refinery plant has been crippled along with an airport and a new group has emerged. The ability to carry out an attack on this scale requires a well equipped, well funded, well organized militant force. Had the coalition properly asserted control over the civilian and ex-security/military population this problem would not have occurred.

Lorkhan relies heavily on British Londinium's petro-oil trade. We consider this attack on British Londinium's newly acquired resource to be an attack on -our- resource. The attack will be met by increased military presence on the part of Lorkhan, unless otherwise forbidden by coalition military officials and the government of British Londinium.

On behalf of the Grand Nasier Tiber Valias,
Military Executor Kraft
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Maldorians
13-07-2007, 18:39
The Imperial Empire of Maldorians is discusted at Cazelia's terror strike. For the safety of Maldorians-occupied region in Cazelia, we are going to begin a curfew on all Cazelians in our region.

-The Mandalore.
The World Soviet Party
13-07-2007, 18:42
The Soviet Authorities in the joint Soviet-ICCD occupied territory will not enforce any kind of curfew or new laws, all border checkpoints will have increased guard and searches though.

OOC: Depending on when my PC comes back from the repair shop, I'll post a news cast about a group of my soldiers finding a weapons stash.
Urcea
13-07-2007, 18:45
The amount of pressure in Imperial Cazelia has been increased: 1,000 more troops are being mobilizing to go to Cazelia.
McPsychoville
13-07-2007, 19:03
Our faith in British Londinium and the other members of the coalition's effectiveness in suppressing this insurgency has dwindled based on recent events.

Cazelian insurgents continue to spread international propaganda aimed at derailing the British Londinium government's efforts. The Cazelian Ball incident is proof of the occupying forces inability to perform critical missions without causing unnecessary disaster, and has likely swayed more foot soldiers to the insurgent cause. Now, an oil refinery plant has been crippled along with an airport and a new group has emerged. The ability to carry out an attack on this scale requires a well equipped, well funded, well organized militant force. Had the coalition properly asserted control over the civilian and ex-security/military population this problem would not have occurred.

Lorkhan relies heavily on British Londinium's petro-oil trade. We consider this attack on British Londinium's newly acquired resource to be an attack on -our- resource. The attack will be met by increased military presence on the part of Lorkhan, unless otherwise forbidden by coalition military officials and the government of British Londinium.

Do not generalise on this matter. McPsychovillian Cazelia has remained completely free of violent attacks and uprisings since a group of young men who threw rocks at a number of our men and vehicles were executed on the spot. All Cazelian weapons have been confiscated, and anybody found with anything resembling a weapon - penknives, cigarette lighters, even water pistols have been banned - are detained on the spot. The ability to attack such locations requires little more than a fanatic, a potentially explosive material such as fertiliser, a mode of transportation and a detonator thanks to the lax attitude demonstrated by the Londinian soldiers; here, anybody even exceeding the speed limit is stopped and searched.

Make no mistake, we take this incident just as seriously as you. But now that the Londinians know what they face, do you really think that they will let anything go past them?
British Londinium
13-07-2007, 19:15
OOC: How have I been lax? Checkpoints, confiscation of weapons, I've done all that.
Akimonad
13-07-2007, 19:21
OOC: Well, they got through somehow. This could turn in to a delightful terrorism RP.
McPsychoville
13-07-2007, 19:23
OOC: How have I been lax? Checkpoints, confiscation of weapons, I've done all that.

[You haven't, really. But in-character, we've completely locked down the Cazelians, and it's our wont to treat anybody who doesn't adhere to our sort of standards as morons; hence, you've been lax in allowing them any freedom as it's bitten you on the ass.]
Lorkhan
13-07-2007, 23:35
Do not generalise on this matter. McPsychovillian Cazelia has remained completely free of violent attacks and uprisings since a group of young men who threw rocks at a number of our men and vehicles were executed on the spot.




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Official Response to McPsychoville


Perhaps we were wrong then. Londinium only need McPyschovillian to show them how to appropriately handle dissidents.

We suggest that British Londinium make regular sweeps of internment territories more than once on a daily basis to insure control of the population. Destroying insurgent morale, by posting your defeated enemies as markers of Londinium strength in these internment camps is also advised. For every insurgent that you kill, return their ravaged forms to their friends and family via aerial drops to show them the hopelessness of defiance.

Crush their will to fight. Take from them everything they own but the most basic necessities. Take their vehicles. Take their education. Take their faith and their source of income. They will be forced to subversion, and have no choice but to accept their new masters.

On behalf of the Grand Nasier Tiber Valias,
Military Executor Kraft
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No_State_At_All
14-07-2007, 02:15
OOC: BL, one report of you gunning down unarmed men and I will kick your ass. okay?
The World Soviet Party
14-07-2007, 03:16
Soviet Squad finds hidden weapons-stash near border, tensions rise

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The brave group of soldiers who found the illegal stash

The weapons found by our brave men were probably going to be used against the Londinian troops

During a standard patrol in a mountain town near the Soviet-Londinian occupational borders, a group of Soviet infantrymen came upon a cave filled with heavy weaponry.

Central Soviet Intelligence (CSI) theorizes that the illegal stash was awaiting transportation into the occupied territories managed by the British Londinium goverment, probably taking advantage of the kind and polite soviets guarding the border checkpoints.

The squad, led by Sergeant Abrahamovich, took defensive positions around the cave, and called for reinforcements just in case it was a trap. Luckily, no one was around and they were extracted (not before getting rid of the enemy equipment with several explosive charges) withouth further incidents.

High Command has stated that, unfortunately, these findings mean that the Cazelian population is taking advantage of the good will of their occupiers, and border checkpoints, as well as the standard patrols, will have to be intensified in order to locate these stashes before they make it to Londinian territory.

There has been no comment from the Cazelian administration.


Story from SNN:
http://www.ssn.com.twsp/go/ln/ww/f_news/4937130.html

© SSN 1976
British Londinium
14-07-2007, 03:32
SIC:

Interim Internment Camp Foxtrot-Uniform-Charlie
Caz'e City
Cazelia Londii

A ragged and pale woman stood trembling nude in the camp's 'courtyard', which was really more of a fifty by fifty metre slab of asphalt surrounded by high concrete wall, topped with razor wire. Soldiers slowly patrolled the walls of the camp, 'home' to nearly seventy-five thousand Cazelian detainees. The courtyard was only the centre of the area - the entire downtown area had been converted into a massive prison. Once the founts of business and luxury, skyscrapers had been converted into massive cellblocks, stripped of electricity, insulation, and running water. A further set walls and fences isolated the central business district from the rest of the world.

The woman, who was known by the name Alexandra Cooper, shivered, partly due to fear, and part because twelve fierce Army soldiers were aiming their heavy machine guns at her emaciated body.

Brigadier Jon Alebrandi stood in full dress uniform before the hapless woman, and the other assembled prisoners recoiled in fear and hatred at the sight of the officer.

"Attention!" he barked angrily, only to receive a painful cringe from the detainees. "The woman before you, Detainee one-four-oh-one -"

"I have a name, you douches," Alexandra rasped slowly. Brigadier Alebrandi responded merely by pointing at her knees. The lead gunman promptly shot in her in the knee - she screamed out in pain.

"Now, Detainee One-Four-Oh-One here has been found guilty of harbouring illegal weapons - including assault weapons, pistols, brass candlesticks, metal forks, et cetera. These weapons were discovered during the relocation process. And now we will show you what we do to subverters."

The guns were lowered, and a simple rope was tied to her ankle, connecting her to a small industrial crane. It raised her above a giant, clear, plastic container of sorts, with dozens of blades sharper than what one would normally consider exceedingly sharp. It was a giant blender.

The crane gingerly placed the woman into the blender, releasing the rope as it did so. She started to pound violently on the plastic, but to no avail. The blades entered into a whirlwind frenzy of mixing, liquidating her skin, her organs, her bones into a substance reminiscent of a smoothie.

Two older adults, a man and a woman, were brought forth by the Londinian troops.

"These two detainees are - were - that woman's parents."

Alexandra Cooper's liquidated remains were poured into two cups, and they were force-fed into her parents throats.

"Let that serve as a lesson to all of you."
Central Prestonia
14-07-2007, 03:50
OOC: How in the hell can anyone come up with something that sadistic and downright evil?
The World Soviet Party
14-07-2007, 03:52
British Goverment goes back to it's old ways, GUSN condemns the actions!

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No comments

Due to reports of increased human rights violations, the British goverment saw itself turned into the target of official condemnations

Unsurprisingly enough, the People's Sovereign Republic of British Londinium proved it's innefectiveness (once again) when it comes to handles a hostile population, be it foreign or national, and resorted to it's old and forgotten methods of executing people by the means of a giant blender, a clear reminder of the times of Mr. Swan.

Reports of these violations had been reaching soviet occupational authorities for days, but without proofs, they were unable to act. Now, due to several photographies, which clearly show British soldiers leading people into concentration camps and executing them for no apparent reasons but "being there in the wrong moment".

For long, the international community, and more importantly, the GUSN, an organization of which both TWSP and BL are members, has watched these... inhumane deeds without reacting.

Those times must end, it's the moment for all of us to rise and finally recognize that, even after four or so invasion, the Londinians havent learned their lesson.

Thus, it's with a sad heart that this Network, nay, this nation as a whole, must ask the Londinians to back down and go back to the caves and holes from whence they came into this world, and stay there for good, to finally leave the world in peace.

On a more official note, the President issued an official condemnation during a speech, claiming that "The poor people in Cazelia have suffered for too long, we got into this operation thinking we would be doing the world a favour, but we were fooled and betrayed by our own allies, which we defended in good faith only to learn of their misdeeds. So, I tell to the Londinian goverment, hand anyone implicated in this case for a proper trial, and we'll think about letting you people stay, if not, get ready to suffer the consequences."

There have been no further comments.


Story from SNN:
http://www.ssn.com.twsp/go/ln/ww/f_news/D=.html

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[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
14-07-2007, 04:16
Dian Forces in the area, already on alert, have been in many instances recalled to strong points and thier previous active patrols to non urban areas have been put on standby due to risk of increased violence in the area, except a long the border area where patrols have been diverted to, to insure there are no crimps in Dian operations in the area.

Furthermore ICCD has put aside funds for a new international sized airport to be constructed over the next 5 to 10 years, as well as construction of make shift runways and helipads in various areas around the major cities where they do not already exist over the next 5-10 years. ICCD has also dedicated satalite technology and cameras to monitor the borders on a more dedicated basis.

ICCD is also going to start funding local border patrols to police the area from the local loyal population. Training for these Border Security Forces will be funded by ICCD, as well as equiped where weapons do not exist by Dian Forces, to work in collabortation with TWSP and Dian Security Forces in these stressful times.

ICCD is also extending full refugee status to all Cazelians regardless of their current occupational zone, and offering two refugee emergency situations supercargos to the area on a monthly basis. Individuals can file for refugee status at local government offices or be given information at Dian checkpoints on how they can be taken in as refugees for relocation to Dian Refugee Centers in the Empire.
imported_ViZion
14-07-2007, 04:22
ViZion is preparing to send out transporters into Cazelia, to bring them to safety in Refuge Island, ViZion, as the first refugees. Should any ViZionarian be harmed by British Londinium, it will be viewed as an act of war against ViZion, and shall be dealt with according.

A total of 45 747's will be leaving ViZion in 24 hours to head to Cazelia.

In addition, the International Medical Foundation is preparing for their first mission - aid civilians who have not been detained yet in Cazelia.

ViZion demands that, upon our arrival, the gates to the camps be opened to allow the refugees to come to ViZion. Once again, it will be an act of war to harm or attack any ViZionarian. These transporters - along with the IMF personel - will be unarmed.
imported_ViZion
14-07-2007, 04:28
ViZion wishes it to be known that we are preparing to mobilize. While we hope British Londinium has the smarts enough not to strike at our unarmed humanitarians, we do fear that our humanitarians will, indeed, come under attack.

As such, ViZion is preparing to mobilize:
-6 nuclear submarines (Type: Classified)
-18 aircraft carriers (Type: Classified)
-500,000 soldiers of the ViZionarian army
-4,000 Marines
-800 armoured vehicles (Type: Classified)
-400 tanks (Type: Classified)
-600 air superiority fighters (Type: Classified)
-200 bombers (Type: Classified)

It is also classified as to what else is being prepared, should British Londinium become aggressive against the unarmed ViZionarians.
Wagdog
14-07-2007, 05:24
Official USSW, UFAN Condemnation of British Londinian Crimes against Humanity in Cazelia
Thanks to our steadfast allies in the Socialist States of the World Soviet Party, we have learned of the disgusting actions which have taken place in internment camps dispersed throughout Londinian-occupied Cazelia. For this, we have nothing to say to Kensington except that those responsible are cowards and murderers of the worst sort; unfit to wear the uniform of any nation, especially one whose regime has the gall to declare itself 'socialist' when it practices scarcely aught but wanton imperialism and brutality of a sort that even many fascist nations would cringe before. I hope you are proud of yourself, Consul Alistair Davidson; for you are probably the only one so as of now, and I am nothing but appalled and enraged.

Henceforth, we stand beside our Soviet allies, as well as the merciful occupying powers of Intracircumcordei and the brave nation of ViZion, in taking what steps are appropriate to condemn and mitigate British Londinium's actions in its Cazelian slave state. We officially withdraw whatever little recognition we may have once had for Londinian authority in this land, and encourage any Cazelians with the means to consider Wagdog or other UFAN nations as ready sanctuaries. Any attempt by the Londinian government to act against such refugees in our protection shall be deemed a hostile act by my government; and so mobilized for multiple possible conflicts as we are, would be most unwise of Kensington to attempt.

Especially since, as of now, I may announce that my government intends to call for the expulsion of British Londinium from the Global Union of Socialist Nations at the earliest opportunity. Atrocities like yours are why so many nations attempt to exterminate us all, irrespective of our actual behavior on an individual basis, and we in Wagdog for a few are tired of being so linked to a regime as monstrous as that in Kensington. You have gone too far, and you shall pay the price forthwith. It is hoped and advised that you do not go any farther, or incur the responsibility to pay any more.

Sincerely,
Christine Friedrich
Deputy Commander-in-Chief, USSW War Office
Deputy Party Secretary, Wagdian Revolutinonary Party
Deputy General Secretary, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Secretary General, United Federation of Allied Nations
Malatose
14-07-2007, 06:04
Official Statement from the Continental Empire of Malatose
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We, The Continental Empire of Malatose, is disgusted with the recent actions by the British Londinium, in Cazelia. We strongly believe in the values of Law and Order, and would have been happy to support The British Londinium; however, news of the atrocities, such as forcing Cazelian citizens to perform humiliating and degrading acts, as well as the brutal executions have left us totally sickened.

Therefore, We have decided to stand by the nations of ViZion and the United Federation of Allied Nations, and alongside them, we condemn your actions to the fullest. And we strongly advise you, to withdraw, or you shall pay the price, and shall reap what you have deeply sown.

Signed,
Imperial Privy Counsellor of Foreign Affairs
Ars Dagnor
Central Prestonia
14-07-2007, 06:24
The United Socialist States of Central Prestonia condemns the actions of British Londinium in Cazelia. Your modern-day concentration camps and forced cannibalism have proven that your regime truly has no trace of humanity left. We are opening our borders to any Cazelians who wish to leave their present state. We will take the same line as Wagdog: any interference in the extradition of refugees will be taken as a hostile act against the republic and dealt with accordingly.
Hamilay
14-07-2007, 06:40
OOC: ... ouch.

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Official Statement of the Federal Republic of Hamilay

The Federal Republic completely and unequivocally condemns the various crimes against humanity committed by British Londinium against Cazelian citizens, both as a member of the UFAN and an independent nation. The actions taken by the People's Sovereign Republic are atrocious in all circumstances, but the Federal Republic is particularly staggered that an apparently domestically free democracy has so little regard for the welfare of foreign peoples. Hamilay stands beside ViZion, Malatose and our UFAN allies in our sentiments. As has already been done, Hamilay follows suit in opening borders to Cazelian refugees. All refugee transportation departing from Cazelia will be under the protection of the Hamilayan armed forces, which are preparing to deploy as of now. The Federal Republic calls on British Londinium to cease and desist the sanction of these crimes immediately.

The Hon. R. E. Fletcher
Hamilayan Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade
Aurum Domus
14-07-2007, 06:48
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Myself, my government, and my entire nation is deeply disgusted with British Londiniums harsh and brutal treatment of the Cazelian people. We officially condemn the actions of your troops and government.

High General Samuel Oron
Avisron
14-07-2007, 07:06
[OOC: Link (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532825)]
imported_ViZion
14-07-2007, 07:08
ViZion is notifying all forces in Cazenia - hostile and friendly - that the 45 different 747's are leaving Vitalita International Airport. ETA is six hours. All people are unarmed, and they fly without defense from the ViZionarian military.

The IMF is also preparing three ships to sent to Cazenia for transportation and medical aid.

We will be taking as many Cazenian civilians back to ViZion as possible. All our people are completely unarmed. Please note that should any of our people come under attack by anyone, it will be considered an act of war, and we WILL respond in full.

Thank you,

President Kilo
No_State_At_All
14-07-2007, 11:53
OOC: Go read the main occupation thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=532431) as it seems a better place to put a war.
Vetaka
14-07-2007, 13:24
OOC: Whilst I am away from NS for the next 2 weeks ive been driving for 4 hours so ive taken abreak in a Wi-fi Cafe. So its condemnation time!!!

Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: <Open Communication>
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: British Londinium

To say I am disgusted is an understatement after being informed by Vetakan Security and Intelligence Service of the actions by British Londinium Military Service Personnel within the nation of Cazelia I will be honest I was physically sick.

As such I would first like to make it clear that I, My Government and the People of the Free Dominion of Vetaka stand shoulder to shoulder with the International Community in open and total condemnation of British Londiniums actions.

In direct response to this situation the Vetakan Government will be doing the following:

1) Moving to raise this situation to the Councils of the United Federation of Allied Nations whereby an immediate response will be debated.

2) Moving to raise the issue to COMECON-SD with the same intent at UFAN

3) Moving to call for the expulsion of British Londinium from the Council of International Democracy the fact that British Londinium is its founding member matters not.

4) Calling for the immediate Expulsion of British Londinium from the Global Union of Socialist Nations.

5) Granting and Providing Specific Funds to allow any and all Cazelian Refugees to flee their Homeland and to seek refuge, safety and security in Vetaka and any UFAN state. Any attempt by British Londinium to stop this will considered Undemocratic and such action will be used as Evidence for Expulsion of CID. Any Harm to any Vetakan Military Personnel in such action will result in defensive appropiate action being taken.

6) The termination of Diplomatic and Economic Relations with the current British Londinium Government. The British Londinium Embassy within New Theeb has now 72 Hours for which to leave Vetaka. The Vetakan Embassy within Kensington has already begun to shut down operations and to leave. Vetaka has also begun a trade embargo to which I urge all nations whom have condemened British Londinium to join. British Londinium Citizens will not be restricted to travel to and from Vetaka it is not their fault that they have elected a monster and an idiot to office.

8) Calling for International Support and Condemnation from Nations and Alliances around the world regardless of Political Ideology from NATO to the Questarian Commonwealth and even to the Corporate Alliance as far as I am aware British Londinium has no buisness or Coporate issues to which could justfiy such evil and destructive violence and abuse of Human Rights.

Consel Alistair Davidson I am not a violent women except perhaps when I am being tormented by my unborn son, Vetaka is not a Powerful or a Violent nation however I and my Government will do all that we can to ensure your actions will not go unpunished and to ensure they are never ever repeated.

I call upon all nations and alliances around the world regardless of Political Ideology and Foreign Policy to join together to ensure that this evil is never allowed to grow or reproduce.

To quote a grand lady "I am not amused"

Yours

Scarlet Rogers

President of the Free Dominion of Vetaka
Supreme Commanding Admiral in Cheif of the Vetakan Defence Forces

OOC: Now onwards I must go
British Londinium
14-07-2007, 14:16
OOC: Does nobody understand the following concepts?

She was a bloody terrorist.
It's in the middle of a detention facility with no access to the outside world.
Imperial isa
14-07-2007, 14:19
OOC: Does nobody understand the following concepts?

She was a bloody terrorist.
It's in the middle of a detention facility with no access to the outside world.


OOC in the Real world you would get the samething as is happening to you right now
if you just have shot her it be lest of a uproar
McPsychoville
14-07-2007, 14:23
OOC in the Real world you would get the samething as is happening to you right now
if you just have shot her it be lest of a uproar

[Now that I think about it, how DID the news actually get out?]
Avisron
14-07-2007, 14:25
OOC: Does nobody understand the following concepts?

She was a bloody terrorist.
It's in the middle of a detention facility with no access to the outside world.


[OOC: She was also a human being. Regardless, there's no reason to have this OOC discussion. We're free to react as we wish.]
Imperial isa
14-07-2007, 14:29
[Now that I think about it, how DID the news actually get out?]

OOC spy satellites may be i don't know
Wagdog
14-07-2007, 14:35
[OOC: She was also a human being. Regardless, there's no reason to have this OOC discussion. We're free to react as we wish.]
OOC: Seconded, especially since your public actions in this alone have been bad enough to justify what we're doing now. A funny thing, isn't it this 'sovereignty' of which we all speak, eh?:rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but when you go to the extremes of brutality and publicity in execution that you do, SOMEBODY is going to blab about it, and that in turn is going to get out to those who aren't going to take it well (kindly speaking). Even if the one blabbing is some sadist guard who was glorifying the execution to intimidate a Cazelian local, the rumor would spread among others and be believed since ICly we know prior Londinian governments had a record of this; and thus we would be justified even if acting only upon suspicion, considering the gravity of the deeds committed in most nations' moral terms.
Avisron
14-07-2007, 14:38
OOC: Seconded, especially since your public actions in this alone have been bad enough to justify what we're doing now. A funny thing, isn't it this 'sovereignty' of which we all speak, eh?:rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but when you go to the extremes of brutality and publicity in execution that you do, SOMEBODY is going to blab about it, and that in turn is going to get out to those who aren't going to take it well (kindly speaking). Even if the one blabbing is some sadist guard who was glorifying the execution to intimidate a Cazelian local, the rumor would spread among others and be believed since ICly we know prior Londinian governments had a record of this; and thus we would be justified even if acting only upon suspicion, considering the gravity of the deeds committed in most nations' moral terms.

[OOC: Word.]
Cookesland
14-07-2007, 14:51
[Now that I think about it, how DID the news actually get out?]

[OOC:The people delivering supplies to the camp?


BL, this is turning into a Third Reich/Stalinist Nightmare. How am i supposed to support you government actions when it goes against everything my country stands for?]
imported_ViZion
14-07-2007, 15:58
OOC: Guys! C'mon, it's a RP. Let's keep this IC. Thanks! :)
Avisron
14-07-2007, 16:10
OOC: Guys! C'mon, it's a RP. Let's keep this IC. Thanks! :)

[OOC: I hate to reply in OOC, but thank you. It's really silly when people talk OOCly about what they're going to do.]
No_State_At_All
14-07-2007, 16:52
No_State_At_All will be joining in the embargo placed upon British Londinium, and if enough nations join it, will be enforcing it via full naval blockade.

(ooc: someone else reacted to the blender move before me, so i followed them, although i do go a bit overboard with things...)
VISA Corp
14-07-2007, 16:56
ViZion is notifying all forces in Cazenia - hostile and friendly - that the 45 different 747's are leaving Vitalita International Airport. ETA is six hours. All people are unarmed, and they fly without defense from the ViZionarian military.

The IMF is also preparing three ships to sent to Cazenia for transportation and medical aid.

We will be taking as many Cazenian civilians back to ViZion as possible. All our people are completely unarmed. Please note that should any of our people come under attack by anyone, it will be considered an act of war, and we WILL respond in full.

Thank you,

President Kilo

Open Declaration

Any planes, ships, armies or forces of any kind approaching Sovereign VISA Territory will be fired upon. No exceptions unless you have clearance, which you probably won't have unless you previously occupied Cazelia. We're doing a fine job with aid now and we're not about to stop. We have recently occupied part of former BL Cazelia and we are recooperating the citizens in that area.

Furthermore, we call for British Londinium's immediate surrender of the island off the coast of Cazelia. ViZionians are welcome to occupy there.

~Kenworth L. Stevens
Director, Foreign Affairs
Cookesland
14-07-2007, 17:13
Furthermore, we call for British Londinium's immediate surrender of the island off the coast of Cazelia. ViZionians are welcome to occupy there.

~Kenworth L. Stevens
Director, Foreign Affairs

OOC: ahem

[That's right. And I have no qualms with the island falling under Cookeslandic jurisidiction.]

Cookesland has joined the embargo placed on British Londinium
VISA Corp
14-07-2007, 17:22
OOC: ahem



Cookesland has joined the embargo placed on British Londinium

OOC: Oh, well, that's fine.

IC: We look forward to cooperating with the Cookelandites (I don't know the demonym) in their occupation.

We are also readying to give the Cazelians a limited provisional government.
McPsychoville
14-07-2007, 17:30
We are also readying to give the Cazelians a limited provisional government.

We would advise prudency in politics at the moment. The nation is already splintered enough without British Londinium pulling out, and giving a government any degree of power will just create problems for all involved. Once British Londinium is fully removed and their former territory is under control, then we can think about this.
VISA Corp
14-07-2007, 17:38
We would advise prudency in politics at the moment. The nation is already splintered enough without British Londinium pulling out, and giving a government any degree of power will just create problems for all involved. Once British Londinium is fully removed and their former territory is under control, then we can think about this.

Part of their former territory is under control. By limited government, we meant something along the lines of a city council, for now. If such councils are created, their activitied will be heavily moderated. We done it before, in Mortun, and it's working fine.
Falgoust
15-07-2007, 00:10
The Commonwealth is disgusted by these vile despicable atrocities caused by the British Londinium government that we had believed were just campaigners of diplomacy and noble social etiquette.

We have since withdrawn our position in your CISD alliance, and call for the punishment of these soldiers who viloated the most basic of rights deserving of a living being. Your soldiers and military are beneath animalism, and not even a barbarian deserves to be compared with the likes of such heinous acts.

We call for all governments who purvey good and decency in this world to press sanctions on British Londinium, and if they not punish those directly responsible then we the nations of justice take action into our own hands.

Empress Opal
Empress of Falgoust and Chancellor of the Covenant of Corellus
McPsychoville
15-07-2007, 00:34
If this is indeed your view - that other nations should place sanctions on British Londinium - then it's my job to inform you that you can no longer execute anybody suspected of terrorism. Or imprison them, for that matter. Why? Well, execution and imprisonment violate the human rights of the terrorists - they are, after all, human too - and even though imprisonment or execution may be the preferred method of dealing with them, we're a bigger nation than you. And even though we've got no right to force you to change these practices, we're threatening you with all kinds of nasty punishments unless anyone believed to have committed an act of terrorism is let off free, in the past or in the future.

See? Your own arguments work nice and well against you as well, don't they? And don't think I was being completely funny, I will happily impose some nasty things on your populace. Not for calling for actions to be taken, but for calling for other governments to sanction British Londinium as well rather than having the balls to do something that might make an impact yourself. Such as war.
Aurum Domus
15-07-2007, 00:42
OOC: MPV I'd watch yourself if I were you. This situation will probably lead to war and you don't want to be caught up in it.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
15-07-2007, 00:43
If this is indeed your view - that other nations should place sanctions on British Londinium - then it's my job to inform you that you can no longer execute anybody suspected of terrorism. Or imprison them, for that matter. Why? Well, execution and imprisonment violate the human rights of the terrorists - they are, after all, human too - and even though imprisonment or execution may be the preferred method of dealing with them, we're a bigger nation than you. And even though we've got no right to force you to change these practices, we're threatening you with all kinds of nasty punishments unless anyone believed to have committed an act of terrorism is let off free, in the past or in the future.

See? Your own arguments work nice and well against you as well, don't they? And don't think I was being completely funny, I will happily impose some nasty things on your populace. Not for calling for actions to be taken, but for calling for other governments to sanction British Londinium as well rather than having the balls to do something that might make an impact yourself. Such as war.

Normally the acts might be terrorism but since it was in an occupied country and the person executed was identified as being with the resistance. Also the mysterious disapearance of the head of state who was coerced into showing up for fear of random murders occuring to the populace. We also must not forget the wanton acts of destruction and reprisal killings and total lack of fair trial which were absent prior to the summary executions that seems a regular occurance. In general the non judicial detentions of thousands upon thousands of Cazelians, usually do consitute war crimes. While only some reports are facts and other circumstancial, especially the more heinus stories that have leaked from the area. It is quite clear B.L. is not mearly executing terrorists but blatantly has violated many of the basic universal ettiquettes of an occupation.
McPsychoville
15-07-2007, 00:46
OOC: MPV I'd watch yourself if I were you. This situation will probably lead to war and you don't want to be caught up in it.

The time for that has LONG gone. If indeed I am attacked, Cazelia will just become a smoking wasteland again; I'm simply proving a point to Falgoust.

Normally the acts might be terrorism but since it was in an occupied country and the person executed was identified as being with the resistance. Also the mysterious disapearance of the head of state who was coerced into showing up for fear of random murders occuring to the populace. We also must not forget the wanton acts of destruction and reprisal killings and total lack of fair trial which were absent prior to the summary executions that seems a regular occurance. In general the non judicial detentions of thousands upon thousands of Cazelians, usually do consitute war crimes. While only some reports are facts and other circumstancial, especially the more heinus stories that have leaked from the area. It is quite clear B.L. is not mearly executing terrorists but blatantly has violated many of the basic universal ettiquettes of an occupation.

You seem incapable to understand the one simple truth here. Detainee 1411 committed a serious crime and paid a serious penalty for it - even if you think it was excessive, that is not your decision to make - and now anybody thinking of attempting the same crime will associate it with being blended. Thus, it is a deterrent, and what better deterrent than being sliced to bit. And etiquette, lest you have forgotten, went out of the window when the Cazelian insurgents destroyed an airport and an oil refinery, thus making the rebuilding work simply take longer and putting Londinian soldiers in danger.

[And yes, I know I replied to an OOC statement ICly. It's not a big deal, is it?]
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
15-07-2007, 01:46
The time for that has LONG gone. If indeed I am attacked, Cazelia will just become a smoking wasteland again; I'm simply proving a point to Falgoust.

You seem incapable to understand the one simple truth here. Detainee 1411 committed a serious crime and paid a serious penalty for it - even if you think it was excessive, that is not your decision to make - and now anybody thinking of attempting the same crime will associate it with being blended. Thus, it is a deterrent, and what better deterrent than being sliced to bit. And etiquette, lest you have forgotten, went out of the window when the Cazelian insurgents destroyed an airport and an oil refinery, thus making the rebuilding work simply take longer and putting Londinian soldiers in danger.

[And yes, I know I replied to an OOC statement ICly. It's not a big deal, is it?]

We have no records of Detainee 1411. Wrong attacks on the general populace as reprisal for the acts of a resistance is NOT warrented. Blowing up residential housing, civilian housing, for the acts of an unidentified force is not a legitimate action. These are not the only attacks, ICCD itself places next to no weight on detainee 1411 of what it speaks because ICCD was unable to confirm that specific instance. Likewise with absence of fair trial anything detainee 1411 did is also circumstantial. I fail to see how destruction of habitated apartment buildings aids reconstruction.

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ICCD calls for McPsychoVille to also leave Cazelia as the Imperial Dian Senate fail to see how their policies and war measures help stabalize the area. Praetor Valens is concerned that attacks may of this same type may be conducted and their presenance will continue to fuel attacks against occupiers where otherwise they would not occur. The Brutal Occupiers as Praetor Valens states ' Need to be replaced by allies of Cazelia who will assit the local population without being their enemies, monsters and predators.
No_State_At_All
15-07-2007, 02:04
Due to her recent statements, No_State_At_All will withdraw our support for MSV occupation forces, and back the demands for them to leave. We offer our own forces to police the areas thus left open, but we will make NO decision on local government. We will also, if given the responsibility, work to restore utilities to the populace. However, whatever happens, we would like to ask that the people of Cazelia be our primary concern in this troubled time.

OOC: I hate doing that... but you sound ICly like you side with BL, so I'm instantly hostile. Not to the extent of invasion like BL makes me, but I do want you off any possible flank of any of my forces.
Lorkhan
15-07-2007, 09:00
OOC: Does nobody understand the following concepts?

She was a bloody terrorist.
It's in the middle of a detention facility with no access to the outside world.


OOC: So your basic logic is that, because someone supplies weapons to an insurgent or militant group, that makes it okay for you to drop them into a human fuckin' blender and force her parents to drink her liquefied remains? Yeah. Right. That's just flawless buddy. Give me airplanes smashing into buildings, a televised beheading, and car bombs over a human slushy any day of the week. Thanks.
Falgoust
15-07-2007, 09:24
The time for that has LONG gone. If indeed I am attacked, Cazelia will just become a smoking wasteland again; I'm simply proving a point to Falgoust.

The only point you proved here is that you are singling out the nation that is smaller than you, because you don't have the balls to call out all the other nations that accused B.L and threatened the same actions

You seem incapable to understand the one simple truth here. Detainee 1411 committed a serious crime and paid a serious penalty for it -

Shooting sympathizers in the head is a penalty. Arresting them is a penalty. Executing them by firing squad in front of their family is a penalty. What happened to 1411 was not a penalty. It was a desperate cry for attention, and now you're unhappy because the attention received wasn't the attention expected?

even if you think it was excessive, that is not your decision to make -

Yes. It is. Or maybe I can prove a point to you, and say that standing up for B.L's actions isn't your decision to make. It's B.L's. Because... you know, apparently by your standards B.L's business is strictly B.L's business.

Yes. It is and now anybody thinking of attempting the same crime will associate it with being blended. Thus, it is a deterrent, and what better deterrent than being sliced to bit.

I disagree. Now, because the insurgents know that the entire world is moving against British Londinium, they are going to rally more to their forces. Even without international support a move like that would more than likely outrage citizens then it would frighten them. I'm sure British Londinium would enjoy crowd control when an entire town's worth of people is breaking curfew rather than three or four.

And etiquette, lest you have forgotten, went out of the window when the Cazelian insurgents destroyed an airport and an oil refinery, thus making the rebuilding work simply take longer and putting Londinian soldiers in danger.

Cazelian insurgents striking strategic locations to hinder their opposition's efforts has a very large divider that separates it from turning detainee's into human goo. It's a divider so large that the subject of etiquette and mercy have absolutely nothing to do with the act.
McPsychoville
15-07-2007, 11:53
ICCD calls for McPsychoVille to also leave Cazelia as the Imperial Dian Senate fail to see how their policies and war measures help stabalize the area. Praetor Valens is concerned that attacks may of this same type may be conducted and their presenance will continue to fuel attacks against occupiers where otherwise they would not occur. The Brutal Occupiers as Praetor Valens states ' Need to be replaced by allies of Cazelia who will assit the local population without being their enemies, monsters and predators.

The Imperial Dian Senate should actually conduct some research of their own before making such blase statements. To begin with, McPsychovillian-occupied Cazelia has remained free from insurgencies and violence thanks to the policing of our peacekeeping forces, a direct result of which being that we have been free to rebuild the shattered towns without the concern that they might be blown to pieces at any moment. The Cazelian citizens under our control may recognise that we are not trying to oppress them for the sake of oppression or they may not, it is not my concern at the moment.

Notice also that while other nations bickered over borders and territory in the wake of British Londinium's withdrawal, we encouraged measures that put the Cazelians first rather than the occupying nations. Does this sound like the action of an enemy? Or a monster? We will not deny that people have been killed by our soldiers, but the circumstances are noticeably different - the first Cazelians killed were a pair of young men who were first caught outside without dispensation, then who when challenged fired upon the squad with handguns of unknown description. Both measures were strictly against our laws, and there is no reason to call that harsh.

In another context, the use of "brutal occupiers" would be slander, and with Vizion's invasion going ahead war seems to be in the air. Do not antagonise us.

Due to her recent statements, No_State_At_All will withdraw our support for MSV occupation forces, and back the demands for them to leave. We offer our own forces to police the areas thus left open, but we will make NO decision on local government. We will also, if given the responsibility, work to restore utilities to the populace. However, whatever happens, we would like to ask that the people of Cazelia be our primary concern in this troubled time.

As explained above, this will not be occurring. There are just three weeks to go before the round-the-clock curfew is reduced to one forcing all citizens to be in their houses during the hours of darkness, and to hand this over to another set of forces would be stupid. If my information is accurate, the work of the peacekeepers and the various rebuilding contracts taken out from firms back home have brought back power and water to Cazelian homes, and the next step is re-installing a suitable road system.

The only point you proved here is that you are singling out the nation that is smaller than you, because you don't have the balls to call out all the other nations that accused B.L and threatened the same actions

The fact of your size isn't really an issue here. I'm simply proving that your point is very flawed, and what better way to do it than to use an extreme example?

Shooting sympathizers in the head is a penalty. Arresting them is a penalty. Executing them by firing squad in front of their family is a penalty. What happened to 1411 was not a penalty. It was a desperate cry for attention, and now you're unhappy because the attention received wasn't the attention expected?

It was a penalty. It might not fall into your standards of what a penalty is, but then your standards are not the ones in question, BL's are.

Yes. It is. Or maybe I can prove a point to you, and say that standing up for B.L's actions isn't your decision to make. It's B.L's. Because... you know, apparently by your standards B.L's business is strictly B.L's business.

Standing up for these actions IS my decision to make, there's nothing stopping me from doing the opposite of what everybody else is doing and defending them; by this tack, the only person BL has to answer to are themselves, and if that were true, this would never have occurred. I'm not trying to say that blending should be introduced around the world, I'm merely saying that if it is used in BL, nobody bar them has any right to say it cannot be used in BL.

I disagree. Now, because the insurgents know that the entire world is moving against British Londinium, they are going to rally more to their forces. Even without international support a move like that would more than likely outrage citizens then it would frighten them. I'm sure British Londinium would enjoy crowd control when an entire town's worth of people is breaking curfew rather than three or four.

BECAUSE the world has chosen to single out BL. If the reports of the blending had never reached the outside world, the insurgents would be cowed by the possibility of being sliced into tiny chunks.

[OK, I think I have to make my stance clearer on this.

We defend BL's right to use the blender on the grounds that it is his sovereign right to use it. If he's stopped from using the blender, then other nations can be stopped from using, say, crucifixion or other methods of death, and it would become a slippery slope that shouldn't have been stepped on anyway.

We stood allied with BL when he was attacked originally by Cazelia, and then when he was accused of war crimes. However, when they cut off the petro-chemical exports wholesale, we ceased to be their allies. We may join the war but on what side is uncertain now - however, if we were to join, it would probably be on BL's side because of the fucking dogpile that has just defied logical reasoning.

Also, a couple of you are really pissing me off with your behaviour. I won't say who, just that you're there.]
No_State_At_All
16-07-2007, 01:13
OOC: Tempers down people. Also, I can and will try to stop human rights abuses wherever i can. Thats a slippery slope i'm willing to jump down headfirst. I cant support invading two thirds of NS, but if i could, i'd stamp on anyone who killed even a single civilian. (obvious exceptions being unavoidable deaths in time of war I.E. running into lines of fire = suicide) Anyway, this is waaay off-topic and horribly ooc.
British Londinium
16-07-2007, 01:15
OOC: McPyschoville, just to clarify, I didn't cut off petro-chemical exports to everyone. I believe I stated that supplies were being restored on a nation-by-nation basis, and you, for your support of BL, are still receiving oil.
Pan-Arab Barronia
16-07-2007, 10:54
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Having heard recent reports on continual Human Rights Violations, including a reported "Human Blending" incident through our counterparts in Wagdog, we must request that British Londinium cease such brutal actions - these horrific "penalties" will only serve to see you derided by the international community.

Whilst we support your cause for war, we cannot, simply cannot, stand by and observe such brutal actions against civilians, whether it be "internment" or no. Encouraging civilians to become a member of a society takes more than excrutiating pain and horrific action-taking.

Whilst it may be "sovereign right" to use a giant blender (Note from typist: WTF?), show some compassion toward those not involved in the fighting and cease this ridiculous display of inhumanity and sadism.

Yours,

Armen Zeroun
International Affairs Minister

on behalf of a personal message from:

Chancelloress Santina Verona-Barron
Chancelloress of Pan-Arab Barronia