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Cazelia are pressinf for war crimes and yet they are guility of them themselves. During the recent war in tatom Cazelian forces used chemical weapons against CFS troops and civilians. We press for a war crimes trial.

Jed Carlsson
Govonor General

Commonwealth of Federational States

Good timing. We would like to reinforce Federational States's resolve.

We would like Federational States to back up his words with some proof not just irrational judgements.

-The Mandalore.

Official Allanena Response

Why not bomb both British Londinium and Cazelia?

Official Allanena Response

Why not bomb both British Londinium and Cazelia?

I highly doubt that would end the debate.

Kenworth L. Stevens
Director, Foreign Affairs

OOC: This is getting ridiculous. Urcea is just as much of a wank as NC, and BL is well... BL.

IC:

Official Kampferian Statement
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This is ridiculous. Either back your allegations with solid evidence, or do not waste our time. And tell me one thing. How does the occupied commit a war crime?

Fuhrer Richtoff

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The Grand Nasier's outlook on the use of chemical weapons has not changed. Chemical, nuclear, and biological weapons outside of extreme emergencies are the equivalent of announcing to the world an infantry divisions incompetence. Perhaps we have hypocrites involved in this as well. After all, if we charge Cazelia for using chemical weapons wouldn't we have to charge British Londinium for the use of VX gas?

On behalf of the Grand Nasier Tiber Valias,
Lady Pesch
Minister of Foreign Affairs
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OOC: The unfortunate thing is that if we glassed Urcea, the CA would glass us, and if we glassed BL, then AMF and his followers would probably waste us. Personally I am getting extremely tired of BL. He invades tons of noobs and makes them colonies. This would put an incredible strain on his military and his economy, not to mention his civilians morale from war weariness. In all honesty, I don't think he could technically afford to keep doing this.

OOC: The unfortunate thing is that if we glassed Urcea, the CA would glass us, and if we glassed BL, then AMF and his followers would probably waste us. Personally I am getting extremely tired of BL. He invades tons of noobs and makes them colonies. This would put an incredible strain on his military and his economy, not to mention his civilians morale from war weariness. In all honesty, I don't think he could technically afford to keep doing this.

OOC: I already have Urcea on my blacklist for dropping 30 50MT nukes on Cazeila to force them into submission (and then trying to make us believe that there is enough land left to occupy), his attitude toward individuals questioning the bombardment, his attitude toward others who ask for information regarding his country, and his comments in various other threads.

As for AMF - B.L, I have in the past, seen AMF become quite irritated with nations who tried to use their treaties with him as protective barriers from the rest of the world as they go on campaigns of conquest untouched. These nations became wastelands by AMF himself. I'll leave that as a warning to anyone who thinks that just because they're buddy with AMF, that he will fight your war. So. If you really want to melt B.L... you probably could, and may not face reprisals from AMF.

OOC: I already have Urcea on my blacklist for dropping 30 50MT nukes on Cazeila to force them into submission (and then trying to make us believe that there is enough land left to occupy), his attitude toward individuals questioning the bombardment, his attitude toward others who ask for information regarding his country, and his comments in various other threads.

As for AMF - B.L, I have in the past, seen AMF become quite irritated with nations who tried to use their treaties with him as protective barriers from the rest of the world as they go on campaigns of conquest untouched. These nations became wastelands by AMF himself. I'll leave that as a warning to anyone who thinks that just because they're buddy with AMF, that he will fight your war. So. If you really want to melt B.L... you probably could, and may not face reprisals from AMF.

OOC: Yeah, well, not even being 1/9th the size of AMF, I don't particularly want to take that risk.

OOC: What we need to do is get AMF in UFAN somehow. Then, once he's with us, we pesruade him to cut ties w/ BL, leaving BL ours for the destroying.

OOC: AMF in a pro-human rights alliance? hah! Anyways, UFAN is another reason I can't glass anyone. I have to be pro-human rights ICly...

OOC: Kampfers - how about you think before you post next time. I can count on one finger how many aggressive wars against n00bs I've fought - one, against the Hegemony. Cazelia, here, declared war on me, and please notice how very little of my budget and manpower I used. I have a 49 million man force - I barely have used one million. And, on a side note, I have never "cowered" behind treaties with AMF - because I don't fucking have them. I'm not AMF's buddy, nor am I anything but a nation he invaded.

My colonies, so far, are not military conquests - they are concessions from nations so that they do not get invaded in the first place. Both my Cazelian and Sumgese possessions were given after a lengthy blockade. I have no intent to turn Cazelia into my colony.

So kindly be quiet.

Please refer to the War of the Taom communists threda for proof.

"CFS wishes to bring the perportrators to justice, under no circumantances however will will make war on Cazelia."

Jed Carlsson
Govonor General
Federational States

OOC: What we need to do is get AMF in UFAN somehow. Then, once he's with us, we pesruade him to cut ties w/ BL, leaving BL ours for the destroying.
OOC: A noble aim, but knowing how AMF RPs his nation that probably isn't likely anytime soon. I can OOCly sense some possible changes coming that might make it less-unlikely later on, once Dreadfire is gone and Azrael assumes full power; but only AMF knows when that will happen, and it'd be a shame for him to spoil such a juicy twist for us all now wouldn't it?;) Anyway, for some IC in all this spamming...
Official USSW, UFAN Office of the Secretary-General Statement
On behalf of both my own government and the United Federation of Allied Nations, I must express my extreme weariness with the conduct of all nations involved in this fiasco pertaining to the downfall of the Imperial Democracy of Cazelia. Not only has President Halsey's former government proven quite irresponsible in its political conduct worldwide, albeit perhaps with extreme provocation ever since their ill-fated involvement in the Tahuatinsuyu War against the equally-late Pact of Iron; British Londinium has also given us reasons to suspect only the worst with their blatant disregard for transparency, and refusal to even allow parties completely uninvolved in the relevant war to conduct impartial investigation of all these war-crimes charges being bandied about on terms actually favorable to Londinian sovereignty.

We simply ask, strenuously, that British Londinium see the same sense regarding this issue that it has in working with The World Soviet Party on rebuilding North Cazelia. Let all charges be investigated by an impartial third-party, such as UFAN or ICCD; those against Cazelia, and equally so those against yourself, since we are prepared to believe that the phrase 'no one is innocent' applies here in spades. Do so, and as your allies via the GUSN we may yet find reason to recognize your claims; should you rule them in justice and progress. For now, however, I can only shake my head in exhaustion at listening to the chorus of unreason caterwauling away here yet...

Sincerely,
Christine Friedrich
Deputy Commander in Chief, USSW War Office
Deputy Party Secretary, Wagdian Revolutionary Party
Deputy General Secretary, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Secretary General, United Federation of Allied Nations

OOC: I have a 49 million man force.


OOC: Even for a country at just about 1.6 billion, that's quite a large number and would have a disasterous effect on your infrastructure and economy. China's pop is just under your own, and they have a mere fraction of your military force @ just around 2 million excluding reserves and militia w/ about half a million to their air force and 250g's to their navy.

But yes, Kampfers, Cazelia did initiate the war with B.L. And I highly doubt AMF is going to get involved in this anyway, as I believe Gholgath and his other alliance have their hands fill with the war against the SL.

B.L does seem like a respectable RPer, despite the actions of his troops IC. I don't see why this situation needs to boil out into an unecissery war.

OOC: 49 million, from all branches, which includes all the logistical people as well. That's not even three percent of my population.

OOC- tear gas and black smoke are not deadly. they do not kill, only cause pain. i mean, everbody uses tear gas

OOC: I use VX instead of tear gas.

OOC- tear gas and black smoke are not deadly. they do not kill, only cause pain. i mean, everbody uses tear gas

OOC: I use VX instead of tear gas.

OOC- maybe not you, you perfer to kill

OOC- maybe not you, you perfer to kill

OOC: Far easier, aight? It meant that out of a 500,000 woman-strong-force, only, say, ten had to fire their guns because you had been gassed.

OOC: Because one line posts > logic.

OOC: Because one line posts > logic.

OOC: Ummm...lulz?


IC:

The Imperial Empire of Maldorians is considering invading Federational States for their false misleadings.

-The Mandalore.