NationStates Jolt Archive


Democracy only Alliance??

FreeDemGov
05-07-2007, 00:28
With all the alliances being formed and dissolved, my nation/me was wondering if therr were any alliances for and just of democracies dedicated to democratic/republican ideals. If not, does anyone want to form one?
Australonesia
05-07-2007, 00:56
The Commonwealth of Australonesia would be interested in forming such an alliance. The Commonwealth is a constitutional monarchy; a democratic republic in practice, but with a ceremonial head of state.
Urcea
05-07-2007, 00:56
I'd guess not. Why would you want such a silly thing anyway?
FreeDemGov
05-07-2007, 01:15
I don't know. Why would you want all these alliances based on economic systems? What's the difference?

Australonesia, if no one mentions any alliance, want to make one?
Vetaka
05-07-2007, 01:18
Whilst it is not a requirement of a UFAN to be a Democracy. The United Federation of Allied Nations is all about Freedom, Mutual Defence and not to mention Human and Civil Rights. The link is in my Signature have a look and see what you think?
Kampfers
05-07-2007, 01:18
I know Ive seen a few, because I was barred from some for being a parliamentary dictatorship, but I couldn't think of them off the top of my head.
Vontanas
05-07-2007, 01:26
I made one of those once, and I've seen plenty of them made. They all flop because most nations are democratic, be they capitalist, socialist, nationalist, slave-traders, etc. It's such a broad term that to many nations are allowed in, and they tear the alliance apart with their own goals in mind. So, it either starts excluding nations even though they're democracies, or just dies.
Urcea
05-07-2007, 01:54
I don't know. Why would you want all these alliances based on economic systems? What's the difference?

Australonesia, if no one mentions any alliance, want to make one?

Democracy is a silly system. A large group of Democratic nations is even sillier.
British Londinium
05-07-2007, 01:58
Boo democracy! I hate it!

~Consul Sir Alistair Davidson, British Londinium's head of government
Commonalitarianism
05-07-2007, 11:57
Ah, the so called lover of "democracy", how about an alliance based on civil rights and political freedoms within a nation as measured by nationstates. Very good plus in each of these categories. Forget about economics for a change and focus on freeing the world. Call it the alliance of free nations.
Hotdogs2
05-07-2007, 12:06
OOC: Yeah BTW BL you were out of the GDI a while back...no kidding. I should make it official.

Check the list of alliances thread, its somewhere about, plenty of alliances are for democratic nations only, but i don't think many go at lengths to ensure all are republics, that would be silly.

Vontanas- or they have rules which members also must meet....that or a strong leadership, the nations can be democracies, but the leadership of the alliance doesn't.
Vetaka
05-07-2007, 12:06
Ah, the so called lover of "democracy", how about an alliance based on civil rights and political freedoms within a nation as measured by nationstates. Very good plus in each of these categories. Forget about economics for a change and focus on freeing the world. Call it the alliance of free nations.

Coughs:> UFAN! Check my Sig! And the Theeb Accords.
Etoile Arcture
05-07-2007, 18:40
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/USCMC/nationstates/sealsmall.gif

Official Communiqué

The Secretary General of the Unitary Technocracy of Etoile Arcture wishes to register their interest in the formation of such an alliance between democratic and freedom loving nations, and as such seeks further details on the mechanics of such an endeavour from the esteemed representative of the The Protectorate of FreeDemGov.

At this time of deteriorating international relations the Secretary General is of the belief an alliance between younger nations might provide a bulwark against the aggression of older nations. Provided such an alliance adopts an interventionist policy regarding the defending of democratic rights and the sovereignty of weaker democratic nations, the Unitary Technocracy officially announces its interest in becoming a founding nation of the proposed Alliance of Democratic Nations or "Democracy Alliance."

The Secretary General
Commonalitarianism
05-07-2007, 19:52
The central problem is the concept of democracy, and how it is interpreted. The actual record of political freedoms and civil rights in our opinion is the most important characteristic of a free society. Often in the name of security many so called democracies institute police states repressing their populations.

Democracy is rule by the people and if the people want security, they are often willing to throw away their freedom in the name of expediency. Also some democracies support the majority over the minority in some cases crushing the civil rights of the few or minority groups.

We also feel that there is room for growth of new forms of governance under the form of free societies which on the outward side appear to be different but in the long run may offer more free forms of government than are currently available.

To label oneself as a democracy can lead to problems where one has to come into ideological conflict with other countries that in practice have more political and civil freedoms than your own society.

We would also prefer a charter or outline of responsibilities. Charter of Free Societies.

Regards,

Amara Cruon, Commonarch
Weyr
06-07-2007, 00:28
OOC: Closest thing to an alliance of democatic nationstates that still exists as far as I'm aware is the Alliance of Progressive Nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497645). They're probably not going to just let you join in a single post, however.
Commonalitarianism
06-07-2007, 03:15
How is having Average Political Freedoms and Civil Rights, Progressive. It is a very interesting concept, however.
FreeDemGov
07-07-2007, 03:04
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c197/USCMC/nationstates/sealsmall.gif

Official Communiqué

The Secretary General of the Unitary Technocracy of Etoile Arcture wishes to register their interest in the formation of such an alliance between democratic and freedom loving nations, and as such seeks further details on the mechanics of such an endeavour from the esteemed representative of the The Protectorate of FreeDemGov.

At this time of deteriorating international relations the Secretary General is of the belief an alliance between younger nations might provide a bulwark against the aggression of older nations. Provided such an alliance adopts an interventionist policy regarding the defending of democratic rights and the sovereignty of weaker democratic nations, the Unitary Technocracy officially announces its interest in becoming a founding nation of the proposed Alliance of Democratic Nations or "Democracy Alliance."

The Secretary General

Official Communique

I agree that this democratic alliance would be great. However, if UFAN more or less performs the same task by encouraging democratic privledges, what is the point in creating a redundant alliance?

Ambassador Long, FDG