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Area 7A, Yarkai

28 C-130 transports and 169 Pave low 3 helicopters took off for British Londinium in the cover of night. their objective- secure a Landing zone for the marines that were to arrive in 2 days. total number of men- 7,000

Caz'e city naval base, Cazelia

the 3rd, 6th and 10th Battlegroups departed for British Londinium, along with 486 landing ships filled with 200 marines each. total number of men- 97,200

Top secret air force base, Tajit desert

200 B-52 bombers took off for Kensington. their payload- Napalm and HE tipped cruise missiles. they would launch from about 100 miles away, and from there they would guide themselves to their targets. along with the B-52s were 300 B-1B Supersonic bombers, loaded with Tear gas canisters, napalm bombs and JDAM bombs.

Kensington was to be destroyed

OOC- i will read the stickys 5 more times to memorize it. expect not to see me for a while

OOC: This is godmodding, Caz, you have to explain how and where you acquired 200 B-52's and how your budget supports those and nukes?

OOC: A few concerns I have with your post:

A. Do you know how far you are from my country? I doubt helicopters could get you there, unless you wanted to crash and die in the ocean.

B. Cazelia has an immigration status of "Red", which means any incoming persons from Cazelian lands, or who are even suspected of originated from those lands, are immediately placed under arrest on sight per Londinian law.

C. Your land, naval, and air forces are insignificant compared to my forces, which are already on full alert.

D. Really, did I do anything? All I did was stop you from blatantly godmodding by resurrecting a dead man in an MT thread!

This leads me to my final decision to ignore this thread until you make it worth my while.

OOC: and how your budget supports those and nukes?

i never said nukes man.

For blatant assault of an Alliance member, Urcea declares war on Cazelia. 1,000,000 troops, 3 armored divisions, and 1 artillery divisions are being mobilized to destroy Cazelia.

OOC: Some issues

The US, a country with military on the primary budget and only half the size of yours only had 100 B-1B's at any given time. The planes cost a whopping $283 million each to be built and another $10-30 million per mission in cost of fuel and ordinance. Without defense as a primary recipient of funding, I can't imagine you'd have 300 laying around ready for use.
While it's conceivable that a country twice the size of the US would have twice the number of B-52 bombers, again, defense isn't one of your primary budget concerns by all appearances. Each of these costs $53 million to produce and again, another $10-30 million in fuel and ordinance per mission.
Your numbers on the MH-53 are excessive again. US reserves and active duty counts 31 of the aircraft. Not to mention that using helicopters as your primary invasion force for securing a beachhead is insanity. They're useful for small covert operations, you'd be more reasonable using an entirely C-130 force for airborne drops.
Your numbers on the C-130 force is horribly small. The US runs no less than 2000 of them, and for a drop of this size it's reasonable to think that 200 or so would be used.


Really, a lot of the issues boils down to the fact that Defense doesn't seem to be one of your primary concerns. Attacking a nation twice your size where Defense is their primary concern should lead you to a little more awareness.

OOC: A few concerns I have with your post:

A. Do you know how far you are from my country? I doubt helicopters could get you there, unless you wanted to crash and die in the ocean.

B. Cazelia has an immigration status of "Red", which means any incoming persons from Cazelian lands, or who are even suspected of originated from those lands, are immediately placed under arrest on sight per Londinian law.

C. Your land, naval, and air forces are insignificant compared to my forces, which are already on full alert.

D. Really, did I do anything? All I did was stop you from blatantly godmodding by resurrecting a dead man in an MT thread!

This leads me to my final decision to ignore this thread until you make it worth my while.

OOC: I agree with BL although I have resurrected a dead man in an MT Thread via my White Phoenix Tribe.

Cazelia is becoming involved in another war and comromising the sovereignty of this nation as it is in Tatom. The president of the Commonwealth of Federational States warns that Cazelian landing forces is British Londinium will be considered as an act of war.

For blatant assault of an Alliance member, Urcea declares war on Cazelia. 1,000,000 troops, 3 armored divisions, and 1 artillery divisions are being mobilized to destroy Cazelia.

The Combined Heart Alliance (I assume you're talking about our alliance) is taking these events into consideration. Since it appears that Cazelia has declared war, it makes the situation delicate. I, personally, advise you you to keep your troops in international waters. Since Cazelia started this conflict, there is much less of a chance that we will defend it. I also advise Cazelia to back down, though I acknowledge that, since the neither the CHA or I personally have any control over who you choose to attack, the CHA is not guaranteed to back you up if you declare war.

The Mapmaker
South Thasland

Co-Founder of the Combined Heart Alliance

OOC: I agree with BL although I have resurrected a dead man in an MT Thread via my White Phoenix Tribe.

OOC: And I enjoy hosting zombie uprisings myself, but it wasn't appropriate for the thread.

The Combined Heart Alliance (I assume you're talking about our alliance) is taking these events into consideration. Since it appears that Cazelia has declared war, it makes the situation delicate. I, personally, advise you you to keep your troops in international waters. Since Cazelia started this conflict, there is much less of a chance that we will defend it. I also advise Cazelia to back down, though I acknowledge that, since the neither the CHA or I personally have any control over who you choose to attack, the CHA is not guaranteed to back you up if you declare war.

The Mapmaker
South Thasland

Co-Founder of the Combined Heart Alliance

OOC: Corporate Alliance, silly. But I assume same idea?

OOC: Corporate Alliance, silly. But I assume same idea?


OOC: I still don't think that you should be in it....<_<

IC:


The Imperial Empire of Maldorians, being more sensible than most nations in this war, demands that Urcea stand down. This war is between Cazelia and British Londinium and those two alone. Let these two duke it out without a nation getting involved.

-The Mandalore.

OOC: I've decided to ignore the attack (just because its poorly RPed and a superb example of bad form) but I'm going to keep in the declaration of war.

OOC: I still don't think that you should be in it....<_<

IC:


The Imperial Empire of Maldorians, being more sensible than most nations in this war, demands that Urcea stand down. This war is between Cazelia and British Londinium and those two alone. Let these two duke it out without a nation getting involved.

-The Mandalore.

OOC: You make no sense. I won't even respond to this.

OOC:

Urcea ---> http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=531919

OOC: You make no sense. I won't even respond to this.

OOC: Are you implying that you can't read? Or is it that you are mad at my post?

OOC: You make no sense. I won't even respond to this.

[I think he's saying "Don't get involved, there's no point." And he's right - British Londinium is going to turn Cazelia into so much scorched earth so fast it's not worth typing a declaration of war.]

OOC: Are you implying that you can't read? Or is it that you are mad at my post?

OOC: I'm implying that it made no sense. Why wouldn't I help BL in destroying What's-His-Face? I'm usually a loyal ally, and I'm a warmonger.

OOC: Corporate Alliance, silly. But I assume same idea?
Sorry. I misread everything...whoops...

OOC: I just stopped by this because I saw it on the front page, and it seems to be one of the more pointless wars being waged. Caz, can you please give coherent justification for why you see fit to invade BL and more than likely get yourself killed?

IC: Central Prestonia feels that this war is senseless and urges Cazelia to reconsider. We are willing to host peace talks if both parties are willing to come to the table.