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Alright. Mind telling us how you knew about this, how Thrashia wouldn't know about this, how you can penetrate an FTLi field and how your ships can autopwn everything?

You say don't claim wank because you don't plan on killing everybody.

I am suspicious of this, hence my questions.

The ships aren't in the FTLi field, they're several light years distant, which you would know if you read the post.

As to the probe. It was placed there in advance, as part of a contingency plan arranged by TFU, who expected a betrayal. There was no FTLi prior to Thrawn's arrival, as evidenced by the fact that Thrawn's task force arrived through hyperspace. The probe is also outside the range of the comm jamming. This was an assumption on my part, but if the jamming range is considerably more than expected, it's a moot point. Since a probe sends telemetry basically constantly, the transmission ending without prior detection of a ship or weapons fire would imply that the probe is being jammed, thus Naurelin is aware either way that jamming has commenced.

Anything else?

My issue with this is that a) TFU wasnt expecting an ambush or quite frankly, he would never have got on the station, and b) you can't really know where to ambush as you cant know who is taking who where, when, or why.

Nothing will be done until Thrashia or TFU themselves post here. Keep your "OMFG MY FLEET SAAAAVES TFUZZZZ" posts to yourselves, until we get the right words from the right people.

........................

I hate to say it but this seems like Rob doesnt want to lose, so he randomly pulls you in. Do you even have any ties with TFU? If not, this doesn't seem even plausible.

Also, Thrashia is the OP, I doubt he will accept this. Being his thread, he may evict you.

Now hold on here. Perhaps 'expect' wasn't the right word. Would 'suspect' do? In his position I wouldn't have gone at all, or at least used some form of holographic telepresence to attend the meeting, but whatever.

TFU approached me the better part of a week ago, actually, and I have proof in the form of IRC logs to that effect. Ties? Menelmacar is being compensated considerably for its trouble. As for an eviction, Flaming Souls was admitted to the thread on TFU's invitation, so it would involve considerable hypocrisy to remove me on the same basis, simply because my presence isn't convenient to Thrashia's plans.

Can we get back to the RP now? I'm here to help write a story, not engage in a childish bitchfest.

I would consider it perhaps a little premature to dub it as a childish bitchfest when legitimate concerns arise over a rather important thread for a rather large number of people. Now, I'm reserving judgement prior to instigator (TFU) and OP (Thrashia) offering judgement. But I would say this;

The concerns seem to be that most of the prelude to this consists of you two talking OOCly, and making an IC decision based upon that, with no IC communication between the two of you, few if any discernable IC relationship at all. It seems altogether forced and rather deus ex machina-ish for all involved. And so you must give them, at least a little, chance to question this before it all goes down.

One cannot shock and awe and expect all to be enthralled :)

Uhuh, says the one who just comes in and acts all high and mighty. This is pretty much bullcrap.

Yes, Flaming Souls was, but he has ties to TFU as in his fleet is protecting him, and has been done so previously.

You, out of the blue.

And again, Rob, about to lose, DEUS EX MACHINA. You come in.

Can we get back to the RP now? I'm here to help write a story, not engage in a childish bitchfest.

Oh, I'm sorry. I have a few problems with your post and suddenly I'm a child?

Way to be imperious there, buddy/

i'm not here to be angry or anything, just see that a lot of careful planning on the part of the Thrashia and the loyal elements of the GE arnt derailed by impossible occourances.

So he invited you to back him up a week ago, you don't have to prove it, just say it. The probe being there is fine to, my whole nation works on the principle that your cant spot tiny things you're not looking for.

But you're not attempting to ambush a ship leaving the station as it heads to say, Coruscant are you? because that would be pretty impossible.

EDIT: OK, there are loads of people getting in on this, i'll back out as i wont have anything to do with this plot line for ages if at all. Though can we please keep this civil, thats kind of mostly directed at you Telros.

For the record, I do in fact have previous ties with TFU, he ceded half his outlying star systems to me when that Aumanii coalition went after his capital planets.

But you're not attempting to ambush a ship leaving the station as it heads to say, Coruscant are you? because that would be pretty impossible.
As it leaves the station? No. That would be silly.

En route, now that's eminently possible. My ships' propulsion being gravitic in nature, they are fully capable of dragging Thrawn's star destroyer out of hyperspace in the manner of an Interdictor cruiser.

For the record, I do in fact have previous ties with TFU, he ceded half his outlying star systems to me when that Aumanii coalition went after his capital planets.

Hm! Interesting. Ah well. Not exactly well known ties, but a tie none the less. I stand corrected.

As it leaves the station? No. That would be silly.

En route, now that's eminently possible. My ships' propulsion being gravitic in nature, they are fully capable of dragging Thrawn's star destroyer out of hyperspace in the manner of an Interdictor cruiser.

We'll just have to see what good molesting Thrashias fleet does you. Its a legitimate course of action that you could have planned for, i don't see any problem with you doing that if no-one else does.

That is so ridiculous it amazes me to see this.

A propulsion system that drags ships out of hyperspace.....

Well IF gravity is the distortion of spacetime, and IF hyperspace is another level of spacetime which has less length than the one we're in, then, maybe, a singularity, or high gravity object would distort spacetime enough to...

i know it doesnt make sense to me either, but i think there's some kind of FT precedent for it.

Telros: It's simple logic.

Interdictor cruisers use gravity well projectors to pull ships out of hyperspace. They're entire eight-hundred-meter ships built for the express purpose of doing precisely what I propose. The only difference is that my ships' propulsion manipulates gravity - and with remarkable precision - already, so doesn't need specialized equipment to interdict warsie hyperspace FTL.

Now, this is starting to take on the tone of a bitchfest, and I'm fast getting the impression the GE isn't any more willing to lose than TFU is.

Menel, cut the bitchfest crap. We have problems with your entry, deal with it.

I get the gravity thing. It just seems a little much.

I have no problems. I can see how some members might be panicing, but believe me, I'd relish a challenge if I were directly involved :P

Sure it would be nice, I just want it to be clean and agreed upon by everyone.

I just have to say lolzorz!

In reading purely the IC Thread, I came across nothing that I have a serious problem with. Although I recognize certain elements of what happened as both questionable and noteworthy, so far, nothing has truly happened that warrants an enivtion/ignore/uncontrolled yelling match.

I, as Chronosia recently expressed, would enjoy a little IC challenge.

Furthermore, what I really wish is that this doesn't continue on its path and explode into a nothing-OOC yelling argument. We can talk about this logically, civilly, and calmly.

Furthermore, what I really wish is that this doesn't continue on its path and explode into a nothing-OOC yelling argument. We can talk about this logically, civilly, and calmly.

Well so long as Menel doesnt come in all guns blazing against the station, which would be a diplomatic faux pas there shouldn't be a problem. Strictly speaking she (You are a she right? oh gender doesn't matter.) should have declared the spy drone before the traitors were arrested, as there's nothing anyone could have done about it, and it would have dispelled the feeling that Menelmacar just appeared when TFU got in trouble. But honestly it could have been worse.

I doubt this thread as served its purpose yet though, there's likely to be a good deal of issues arising from Robs arrest, and the representatives of several nations caught with their trousers down, as it were.

Chronosia: I should think the IC challenge would be thinking up a suitable punishment for Rob after a fair and not rigged trial finds him guilty.

There are degrees of death and plenty of ways to get to them :D

"Some were even able to avoid being caught with their pants down."

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

"Maybe from a Jedi...."

1) I agree

2) Pants down? Not so much for a Jedi...

3) Treason (generally) = death

I assume this was a time warp



I'm ROFLing...

Rather XD

*sigh* Whatever.

There are degrees of death and plenty of ways to get to them :D

I assume this was a time warp

"Some were even able to avoid being caught with their pants down."

"Is it possible to learn this power?"

"Maybe from a Jedi...."

I'm ROFLing...

Whoops. Wrong OOC thread. >_>

If it wasn't meant to be, disregard this, but that doesn't seem to be relevant to the discussion OOCly or the actions ICly.

Why anyone would be dumb enough to join the GE in the first place is beyond me. It's the Galactic frickin' Empire. Of course, since Rob has been hoisted by his own petard, one might say that the only honourable thing for Bastidas to do is try and fight his way out.

If I had the choice of being gunned down in a hail of blaster fire and getting drawn and quartered...I'd take blasters.

I think what everyone here should do is take a long course on how to be paranoid. I think everyone involved should have hid a Commando team in their transports or left a Battlefleet beyond scanner range. You can't trust the Imperials.

Tag.

More accurately you can't trust Traitors.

I think what everyone here should do is take a long course on how to be paranoid. I think everyone involved should have hid a Commando team in their transports or left a Battlefleet beyond scanner range. You can't trust the Imperials.

Or perhaps bring an armed Jedi to the meeting...?

I am joining the GE because I am an Imperium and we are fairly imperialistic. We would be like the GE fully if not for our morals. (Which may be discarded in the future).

Also, it was a power move. To ensure the safety of the Terran Imperium.

Telros with his morals. When you discard them you find you have many more options. The sooner the better.

Joining the Empire because you're imperialistic is like selling yourself as a slave because you support slavery. It might be walking the talk, but it's still just dumb.

As for paranoia... best approach would have been to not arrive at all, and use holographic telepresence. Communications can be secured and encrypted - and clearly securely enough for the Emperor and Darth Vader to be comfy using them for private discussions (or the Jedi Council, for that matter).

Uh, did I insult your motives? No.

Can it.

Rough timeline of my last IC post.

-Treize drops the shoe.
- Bastidas arrested, Ubuto confirms equipment status.
- Ubuto first to ideas during first response.
- Thinking for next
- Comes with plan during the guy with the cigarette's speech.
- implements changes during speech
T= 0 seconds

T+.57 seconds after cigarette man finishes he sends signal and dies.

T+ .570004 seconds, computer receives transmission
T+ .570005 seconds, computer has activated alarm and alerted Star Patrol cruisers
T+ 2.63 seconds, pilot reacts to alarm.
T+ 4.10 seconds, co-opilot agrees to engage standard emergency maneuivers
T+ 5.40 seconds, Confederate One activated engines.
T+ 6.82 seconds, Confederate One is severely damaged exiting hangar
T+ 10.45 seconds, Confederate One explodes.

S'gonna make a mess of the hangar, that.

Wait... why did he kill himself?

Uh, did I insult your motives? No.

Can it.
You're awfully oversensitive, aren't you?

I didn't 'insult your motives' or anyone else's, for that matter. I was simply pointing out that if one is imperialistic and values their sovereignty, becoming the toadie of a foreign power, and a particularly unscrupulous one at that, probably isn't the best way to do it.

I notice you didn't similarly attack Auman for his post making the same point.

Can we end this dumb feud. Which one of you is going to be bigger and just ignore the other's rhetoric.

Holy craps! Me thinks that Godular just made the shits hit the fan! :p

*Takes Cover*

If the Stormtroopers would have reacted to Cuchulainn's movements earlier, I can edit to make his move a lot faster. Big thing is, me and Rob agreed on this...

Indeed, Godular.

You're awfully oversensitive, aren't you?

I didn't 'insult your motives' or anyone else's, for that matter. I was simply pointing out that if one is imperialistic and values their sovereignty, becoming the toadie of a foreign power, and a particularly unscrupulous one at that, probably isn't the best way to do it.

I notice you didn't similarly attack Auman for his post making the same point.

I did in fact say the same thing. This is true. Sort of. I just can't understand how someone could willingly join an organization like that due to my own political stance OOC and IC...pretty much for what Menelmacar said.

If you're an evil Empire...why would you want to settle for a subservient position when you could own it all?

This isn't the first attempt to take control of the GE and due to its nature it won't be the last.

...I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers here, this is just my opinion.

If you're an evil Empire...why would you want to settle for a subservient position when you could own it all?

Perhaps because... you couldn't own it all?

I don't think there are any nations or empires out there in FT that could actually take over every other one or even a few. That said, a collection of nations has a much better chance of taking over the rest...

ok so, for those of you that don't know, what did i just do.

A long time ago, a really long time ago, i made a promise to Rob, as Okyto, that if his leader was ever killed, or died, his mind would be transmitted (via twinned atoms, the "transmission" is instant and unblockable) to Okyto and his mind placed witin a posthuman body.

Since then Okyto has collapsed, crassuss ousted, blah blah blah, but the agreement remains, i spoke to Rob who apparently, remembers the deal. This is basically the eventuality ive been waiting for. I know godular has taken Robs mind, though IC i dont think theres a way anyone can know that, but as the body is dead, the system is activated, (the mind is monitered and updated constantly, so though Robs physical brain was damaged by what killed him he'd only lose half a second or so of thought, rather than have the brain uploaded after death, which would present trouble should he be blown up) which effectively means, and i didnt know this would happen, there are two Robs, as real as each other.

I dont know how Godular plans to try and get out of the station, or the ethics of his actions, but my copy of Rob is far from out of the woods.

As wanky as Bastidas being transferred to another body sounds...there's not really much anyone can do. If a feller doesn't want his main guy to die, there's not much you can do about.

Not to mention character killing is just mean. Spend all this time building a guy up and then some guy blows him up or stabs him in the brain...

My point is the only way you'll get a guy to accept a character as dead is when the other guy agrees. Hitler should've died, but he didn't. That's cause the dude playing his guy didn't want him dead yet, lol.

I dont know what Godular plans to do with his Rob but i certainly dont plan on just handing my Rob over to TFU just like that. That wouldnt make IC sense, and wouldnt make for a good RP.

I know just saying "oh btw robs mind is zapped elsewhere" might seem a bit Deus Ex, escpecially after i bitched at Menel for not declaring a single spotter probe, but i certainly dont plan on derailing this RP, and im not just going to save Rob like that. What was once a protection mechanism for Rob, has now evolved into something else entirely. I hope this will add an extra layer to the RP, not destroy it.

A long time ago, a really long time ago, i made a promise to Rob, as Okyto, that if his leader was ever killed, or died, his mind would be transmitted (via twinned atoms, the "transmission" is instant and unblockable) to Okyto and his mind placed witin a posthuman body.

Alright... by "transmission via twinned atoms," I am going to assume you mean quantum entanglement (correct me if I'm wrong). Even assuming quantum theory is correct, there are still a couple issues I take with this. First is that somehow you would have had to identify all of the particles entangled with his mind. Second issue is that while you are able to affect one set of particles by adjusting the particles it is entangled with, you are not able to transmit information faster than the speed of light; seeing as you said he was tens of thousands of light years away, assuming even that you can sent information close to the speed of light, the President would have to be tens of thousands of years old for you to even have the beginning of his mind's information, not to mention that you won't have any of the other stuff for a while. Now, I don't know how old he is, but lets assume he is 60 for argument's sake... if that is true, you won't begin to get his information for tens of thousands of years when pretty much everyone will be dead and it won't matter. Thirdly, while you may be able to transmit information, I'm not quite sure you can memory, let alone conciousness.

(Little pre-post edit to my above writing: Seeing as I don't have a PhD in neuroscience, and thus don't understand exactly the nature of memory, knowledge, and conscious thought, it may be possible that as the brain continues on, its natural sub-atomic, atomic, quantum, energy movement-crap, would cause their entangled pairs to move in the same way, creating the exact same thing instantaneously. However, I would put forth that this would require his other mind to be "alive" for his entire existence also, and, perhaps more importantly, the duplicate's mind would do the same thing to President #1, thus causing some shit in his head that would potentially be psychologically, if not physically, damaging. Again, however, I say that I do not know if (theoretically) the nature of memory and consciousness can actually be transfered or copied through physical means.)

However, all of this being said, I know extremely little about quantum theory, and understand even less; thus, I could be dead wrong about all of this.

I know godular has taken Robs mind, though IC i dont think theres a way anyone can know that

Considering the nature and mystery of crystals in the universe, and the seeming respect and reverence so many cultures give to them, I am pretty sure it'd be one of the first things a lot of people, including my own character, will come to. Stabbing someone through the head with a crystal isn't exactly normal...

It's like watching a movie or show, especially one dealing with mysteries. Take something like Stargate SG-1, which I have seen a couple episodes of; when you are watching it, half the time you come to the right conclusion in about thirty seconds in the days it takes the characters to, simply because they are meant to be dumb for the sake of the plot. In this case, however, I don't think many people are willing to act dumb/not smart just for the sake of the plot.

Go ahead and call GM if someone, (my character), calls it.

(I know this was a tiny point, but I figured I'd nip it in the bud before I make IC post noting what might've happened with the crystal.)

My copy of Rob is far from out of the woods.

Far from out of the woods? Like there's trouble?

As wanky as Bastidas being transferred to another body sounds...there's not really much anyone can do. If a feller doesn't want his main guy to die, there's not much you can do about.
I agree to some extent. However, if a person wants to remain in good standing with his fellow RPers, there are certain extents to this rule.

Not to mention character killing is just mean. Spend all this time building a guy up and then some guy blows him up or stabs him in the brain...
Ah, but in this case it was actually used by the character's RPer to allow himself to escape, so one could say that if anyone is in the wrong, it would be TFU. He remembered this agreement he had with the Fenix dude, so he then asked Godular to dispose of President #1, so that when President #2 became active, there would only be one.

Hitler should've died, but he didn't.
Are you trying to communicate to me that you have knowledge of a 118 year old being that was responsible for the deaths of millions? Quickly, where is he? We must bring him to stand trial...

uber post, must read.

Let me just say whilst im reading that, the agreement was made, rob has died, im afraid i cant just ignore it when he dies.

Ive been hovering around this thread in particular like a vulture, because i knew Rob had a high chance of dying.

I dont want to fuck anything up but i cant ignore an IC action and any concequences it may have, no matter how long they take to have affect.

OK ill read your post now, and edit this post.

Ediiiiit:

Quantum entanglement, pretty much, that doesnt mean ive entangled every atom in his brain, as, i dont know how i'd do that, it just means ive put a little scanner, in there and over the many years its built a picture of his brain. And as from day to day the brain changes very little, it doesnt have to 'transmit' much data all the time.

Now as to how long that would take to get there. As i understood it, and god knows i dont know things, but an entangled atom, if thats what im thinking of, is one of a pair of atoms who move at the same speed and direction, no matter the distance between them. this means that the scanner affects the pitch or yaw of its atoms, and at the other end a moniter takes this change as information. As to whether over a distance this information would beat the speed of light, according to einsteinian physics, that cant happen, but then hes almost certainly wrong about everything so who knows.

Plus, on top of that, in FT we have FTL drives, impossible metals, gravity manipulation, oh god so many things. Of all the crazy things in FT these are not the most out there.

more edit:

oh a couple more things, the idea of a mind being simulated by a computer is pretty much standard FT fare, and as for how old Rob is, Rob [as in TFU himself] says he's.... i dunno some days its thousands of years, other days its billions.

Though i must stress there's no interaction between the computer model of Robs brain, and his physical brain, the transfer of info is one way.

Even more edit:

let me stress i have no desire to derail this thread, especially as ive stated there's a 9 hour lag before my guys even know who theyve got, by that time the action in this thread will have pretty much finished.

No-one on that station now can know that ive got a copy of Rob, and in the end what happens to Rob #2 will only involve TFU and US.

final edit:

one note, we've known that there was a possibility of Robs death since the incpetion of this coup, and since its betrayal shortly afterwards. since that time the eventuality of his death, and the inevitable transfer of his mind has been planned for RP wise. Though IC US cannot yet know about Robs mind, TFUs upper leadership does, and once this coup is made, for a better word, public, Zethathrin will get in touch with US.

By the way, before I make a brief response, I meant to add on to the end of my post (but forgot because I was sick of writing) that in the end I don't really care because in FT pretty much anything goes and nobody understands it and especially not us.

Theoretically what you are saying about a scanner makes some logical sense, though I don't quite know what it means by saying information cannot be sent faster than the speed of light. It could mean the type of information we transfer now, so perhaps what you are saying could work, perhaps not.

But I do not seed the point entirely. A scanner could obviously map what his brain physically looks like and perhaps even the synapse firings and electrical currents. However, mapping a brain and watching it work (stuff that is obviously possible by even today's technology), is not the same as possessing its knowledge, memories, and consciousness. As previously said, I don't know enough about them, but I don't think you can quite know what a brain knows let alone somehow transfer consciousness (which is even hard to define).

About the age part, regardless of what it is, if (which I'm not sure about) information (whatever that means) can be transfered no faster than the speed of light, then you would now be receiving information that is ten thousand years old... thus the important parts dealing with anything modern would not becoming for several thousand years. That is if what you are doing constitutes what quantum theorists define as the transference of information... I don't know. Alternatively, if what I'm saying is at all true, you could theoretically pick up all of your equipment and move close to the station once we all leave so that you get the information very quickly.


But yes, I say again, not all a big deal to me seeing the nature of Future Tech as a whole. Whose to say any type of technology couldn't exist, not to mention that we obviously mix in a bit of hocus-pocus or at best pseudo science with our other stuff (like Jedi's and the Force or whatever).

What I'm trying to say is... whatever...

what im saying is, don't hate me because im beautiful.

no wait thats not what i saying.

Information, as we understand it now, cannot be transmitted faster than the speed of light, according to einstein. However im not so sure thats the case, it may well be just that we cannot experience anything faster than light, or something like that.

In FT obviously lots of things travel faster than light, id love to actually think about this and debate it, but unfortunately i havnt got this far in my book about physics, "How the universe got its spots" by Jana Levin... did i just go off into a complete tangent to push a book... yes i think i did. Honestly, i should stop now before i say something really stupid, or err, more stupid.

Nah DMG! What I mean is that when the Wehrmacht tried to blow Hitler up, he didn't die yet cause his player liked him to much! It took the combined might of the allies to say "lol, hitler iz ded!" and finally the player, who obviously used quality over quantity to wank against the allies...decided "k, hitler shoots hiself lol, you gais didnt kil him!"

But then Stalin was like "d00d i hav ur body, lol"

Dude, explaining history in NS terms is...so relevant...

Information, as we understand it now, cannot be transmitted faster than the speed of light, according to einstein.

Last comment tonight (or this morning as time would have it), and when I get up around 3 tomorrow I assume I'll see a bunch of posts from everyone else.

According to Einstein nothing can literally move faster than light, though this can sort of be overcome theoretically by doing stuff like bending space or entering another dimension (such as subspace if it exists) or even a wormhole. Technically, nothing is still moving faster than light, simply taking a shortcut. But that wasn't my point anyway. What I was saying is that according to quantum theory (of entanglement) you can't move information faster than the speed of light. However, as I noted before, the information they (those quantum theorists) mean is probably the type of information like what we are sending now through computers... basically a code that is then read and produces an image. With what you described it doesn't seem to fit into this classical information, and is rather the movement of atomic particles being manipulated on one end and read on another... so I guess this theoretically could be possible with the right technology.

However, if we are talking logically and ignoring the hocus pocus of FT, I'd still go back to one of my two main points about the nature of memory, knowledge, and consciousness perhaps not being able to be copied (especially the consciousness one).

Whatever tho... we all know that in FT there are ways to avoid death whether it be putting up a personal deflector shield, beaming away, or what have you (to the point of Star Wars spirits being able to inhabit empty vessels)... so for the purpose of RPing, I don't really care.

Nah DMG! What I mean is that when the Wehrmacht tried to blow Hitler up, he didn't die yet cause his player liked him to much! It took the combined might of the allies to say "lol, hitler iz ded!" and finally the player, who obviously used quality over quantity to wank against the allies...decided "k, hitler shoots hiself lol, you gais didnt kil him!"

But then Stalin was like "d00d i hav ur body, lol"

Dude, explaining history in NS terms is...so relevant...

Dude... we should totally write a history textbook like this...

Now, this is starting to take on the tone of a bitchfest, and I'm fast getting the impression the GE isn't any more willing to lose than TFU is.

Of course we're not when the bulk of TFU's council meeting are loyalists. :)

As for the thread, and I think I can safely speak for Thrashia here, no one knows anything outside the meeting room, apart from Imperials.

The only people showing up should be Imperials, so far this ambush has gone into its eighteenth or so second and theres people wanting to bring in war fleets?

Characters are trapped, deal with it, we're not going to kill them off, not even the Godulan.

TFU has been trapped so completely that he is now trying to find any way out short of ignore or temporal wank. Let us just continue with the way things are, and we won't be punitive ICly providing TFU acts with respect OOCly.

As a side note, I have offered TFU a chance to negotiate on MSN, so I may end this as soon as possible, yet I have been ignored, repeatedly, therefore we have no choice but to continue with our present course.

No offense, but I'm not sure where we proceed ICly.

Barring debate, he has been killed and his being secretly transfered into another body far away.

No offense, but I'm not sure where we proceed ICly.

Barring debate, he has been killed and his being secretly transfered into another body far away.

Well now we decide what to do with the rest of your main characters to be honest. Release, imprison, who knows.

Wait... why did he kill himself?

He perceived he had no other choice. He knew he couldn't escape, he knew any rescue mission would fail and only end up killing more people and he knew he had to get out the message that it was a trap. He also knew that tyrannical empires that lay ambushes and take delegates hostage don't generally allow phone calls, and with the jamming he did the only thing he could to warn the others. Confederates (my population obviously, not the deep south :p ) will see it as a noble sacrifice, if misguided when the whole ordeal is over.

As for Confederate One, well they didn't want to die at all. I assumed that the Thrashian troops and operators would view Ubuto's explosive demise as a hostile act and would lock down his transport. It then became a race of reaction times between the crew of C-One and Thrashian port control. Port control managed to get the doors/forcefield or whatever they use to seal the hangar 98% or something up and C-One blasted through it with shields on full. This meant bad things obviously as C-One was shortly vapourized by critical failures a short time later.

Uziel and Seraphim have been sitting at a few tens of thousands of km distance from the station for the whole thing and have yet to do anything as I am waiting for Thrashia to come up with some response.

However, if we are talking logically and ignoring the hocus pocus of FT, I'd still go back to one of my two main points about the nature of memory, knowledge, and consciousness perhaps not being able to be copied (especially the consciousness one).

Your brain contains all your memories, skills and whatnot that make up your "soul" for lack of a better word. If you scan a brain in enough detail to get the position and interaction of each atom you have copied the person. Plug that data into an emulator and bang, another Joe Clone.

Well now we decide what to do with the rest of your main characters to be honest. Release, imprison, who knows.

Not that I am opposed to what you said, because honestly it would be more interesting to me, but I believe Thrashai said this: "I offer you a full pardon in these events..."

I'd also like to point out that it wouldn't really make sense to imprison them because, as Treize said, most didn't know what was going on and thus only came became they were requested

I am also awaiting Thrashia's reply patiently. His postiton as the OP would decide alot of the things that are being discussed here.

Your brain contains all your memories, skills and whatnot that make up your "soul" for lack of a better word. If you scan a brain in enough detail to get the position and interaction of each atom you have copied the person. Plug that data into an emulator and bang, another Joe Clone.

Which is why I've said about five times now that I'm not sure it is that simple. I don't know if copying the right position of atoms would be able to transfer memories.

Not to mention you neglected one of the key points about a person's consciousness, something hard enough to define that I doubt we can assume that it would be transfered over because you put the atoms in the right position.

It is futile to argue this as I doubt anyone here has a PhD in neuroscience and is also able to understand the theoretical cloning

Which is why I've said about five times now that I'm not sure it is that simple. I don't know if copying the right position of atoms would be able to transfer memories.

Not to mention you neglected one of the key points about a person's consciousness, something hard enough to define that I doubt we can assume that it would be transfered over because you put the atoms in the right position.


This is just discussion, not argument so no worries.

The thing with consciousness is that it isn't some magical thing like the religious would have you believe. It isn't on or off either as anyone who has ever had a dog can tell you.

Since experiments show that messing with the brain does change a person's consciousness, for example electrical stimulation, sleep deprivation or good ol' drugs. Brain damage changes people's personalities. All that is a person is their brain, if you can replicate its function with the data contained within its structure, it does logically follow that the person's consciousness is replicated too.

Not that I am opposed to what you said, because honestly it would be more interesting to me, but I believe Thrashia said this: "I offer you a full pardon in these events..."

I'd also like to point out that it wouldn't really make sense to imprison them because, as Treize said, most didn't know what was going on and thus only came became they were requested

See Ubuto saw that as a big giant piece of bull. "We really want to be best buddies but if you don't want to that's cool. Just pay no attention to the EM field meant to disable all of your defenses, the jamming meant to prevent you from calling for help and the multiple armed troops aiming large guns at you. That's totally just for Bob."

Talk about conflicting signals.

Since experiments show that messing with the brain does change a person's consciousness, for example electrical stimulation, sleep deprivation or good ol' drugs. Brain damage changes people's personalities. All that is a person is their brain, if you can replicate its function with the data contained within its structure, it does logically follow that the person's consciousness is replicated too.

Those don't truly change a person's personality. They merely alter a current state of being due to temporary effects on the brain.

Brain damage may affect certain cognitive abilities, but personality and consciousness deals with a combination of many things from experiences to thoughts.

Sorry, but I don't have the energy or ability to discuss it right now any further as I am currently running 30 hours without sleep.

See Ubuto saw that as a big giant piece of bull. "We really want to be best buddies but if you don't want to that's cool. Just pay no attention to the EM field meant to disable all of your defenses, the jamming meant to prevent you from calling for help and the multiple armed troops aiming large guns at you. That's totally just for Bob."

I mean, most of us are already part of the GE...

Actually, there's going to be some more amusing stuff that happens with the Corpse of Robert Bastidas. Balrogga might be able to spot it... the key thing though is that y'all haven't trapped Cuchulainn, as truth be told he's just a character I came up with for the purposes of this RP.

Y'all trapped yourselves in with a Kython Avatar of the Swarm who sees all number of opportunities to wreak havoc upon the assorted 'Imperial Dogs'.

Yes, we trapped ourselves with an Avatar, when you never stated what it was.

My guy explodes if his heartrate gets too high... he dies.. or he chooses it... ahem.

We are getting the feeling over here in the Imperial camp, that the rebels are attempting to squirm their way out via whatever means of wank they can.

When Thrashia returns, we will discuss with him, what behaviours has and has not been acceptable. As far as I am aware, we have treated the opposing side with the utmost respect and cordiality, we would ask that this be returned in kind in good favour in regard to the IC posts.

We are not going to allow moronic behaviour.

We will challenge everyone on their poor posts and wank attempt.

Thrashia will ban people from the thread if they continue to seek to ruin the IC and OOC spirit, that should be prevailing. I ask for everyone to stop back, calm down, and know when you have been bettered and accept that this time, your plans have been castrated.

I would appreciate it if TFU would stop badgering people on MSN and MIRC to do rash things designed to push the thread into an ignore. Such action is frowned upon and not tolerated by this community. Any continued stupid efforts will result in Thrashia having a most ridiculously overpowered force user that just happens to know how to stop everything stupid.

This is an excellent opportunity to post from a hostages perspective, to post anger at the betrayal, and the fear or eagerness to know what's coming next. So far, all I can see coming from the rebellions side is the urge to win and not write. I would ask that this is reflected upon and that posts previously made are deleted if you feel you have been too hasty.

Thrashia will be online shortly and we can deal with what has and what has not happened since there is some mighty confusion.

Yes, we trapped ourselves with an Avatar, when you never stated what it was.

Kythons absorb all forms of energy, instantly regenerate damage, and can absorb any form of matter to repair themselves even if you blow a chunk off.


(it's one of the most wanky things in FT)

Can we end this dumb feud. Which one of you is going to be bigger and just ignore the other's rhetoric.


amen, look lets just get on with the thread, obviously mistakes we're made but lets not let this ruin the rp.

Kythons absorb all forms of energy, instantly regenerate damage, and can absorb any form of matter to repair themselves even if you blow a chunk off.


(it's one of the most wanky things in FT)

Direct current only, can take a few hits before dropping, and the absorption on the personal level is slow enough to be easily disrupted.

Oh, so they're nerfed from how they were originally presented to me.

Amazing isn't it? Contrary to popular belief I actually do respond to constructive criticism.

And also, they were never THAT bad.

Seems that things have flown off the handle within 24 hours...dang.

*clears throat*

Alright people, lets get some things straight. I'll address a number of things, so if it gets confusing...my apologies.

If the Stormtroopers would have reacted to Cuchulainn's movements earlier, I can edit to make his move a lot faster. Big thing is, me and Rob agreed on this...

Well my friend, I am afraid that you wouldn't even be allowed to stand for safety reasons. Not even that delegate that pushed up out of his chair and lit a smoke. Just not going to happen, if anything they'd have pushed him back down in his seat. And if you delegate was using some form of "power" in order to move or otherwise, my Imperial Knights and Shinigami would deal with it directly, though I stress that I would rather not go that course.


@ Everyone: I am making it clear, right now, that all events that have happened between my declaration of arrest of TFU (not counting the probe, I'm fine with that) is hereby void. All this bullshit about a crystal knife is void. The explosion of the Xessimithia delegate is void. Any small nuance of action or otherwise covert attempt to either make a fancy move to die or cast off a message is also void.

So, in basics, everything up to Post 39 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12793711&postcount=39) with the exception of menel
s proposed interception, does not exist since no one was cordial enough to wait until I had returned, though thats only natural I suppose.

My reasoning is simple:

This was a grand sceme that I concocted to capture President Bastidas. Now someone mentioned that it could have been anyone other than Rob that was sent to the meeting, well that was a chance I took. The plan hindged on whether or not I had enough bait to get him there; hence the reason when I acted in the facade as co-conspirator and tried to bring other nations aboard.

As Treize explained, Thrashia and the rest of the Galactic Empire is not in a position where it would tolerate the kind of insurrection that Bastidas was proliferating. It also goes against Treize's own beliefs according to his station as Imperial Advisor and the danger another civil war could have to Thrashia itself, only five decades after the last devastating war/battle that I myself started.

Also, everyone in that room is either an ally of Thrashia, former ally and wanting to reconnect, or simply a fellow member of the GE; meaning that when Treize says he'll not persecute you for having been duped, then he means he won't. If I'd been able to get online earlier I had a post prepared that would have Treize escorting all the other delegates from the room and to their respective shuttles or my own transportation should they require it. Which is again why I have voided all other actions hense taken place. Had they shown no wish to join or be connected to the GE then Treize would have accepted that. He's a gentleman and wouldn't force something like that onto someone, regardless of the fact that he's an Emperor. While the GE is the GE, Thrashia is Thrashia; and we have our own codes of honor.

Bastidas himself shall not be killed. Simply detained until transport to Coruscant is arranged. Period.

I WILL NOT ALLOW INTERLOPERS WHO TFU HAS BEEN ASKING BE PRESENT TO INTERFERE. So please be warned that any other action will be ignored due to the mere fact that it is impossible for you to know what has even happened. I will not accept that kind of wank. Period.


Concerning this interception in transit: I'm fine with that. However as I was unable to make another post concerning that, as Treize was going to usher everyone out, I will explain here the details of that proposed transit.

Bastidas was to be placed upon Thrawn's ship and into his care under guard of the 501st, the Imperial Knights, and the Shinigami. The entire fleet with Thrawn was to act as guards and the entire fleet would be linked in their FTL hyperspace jump, a common Thrashian Fleet action taken when large fleets are needed to move together and arrive together to their destinations. So if you are planning to take one ship out of hyperspace, it inadvertadly would take the entire fleet out, due to the hyper link (an example is the Katana Fleet as described in the Thrawn series).




That is everything I can think of in response to this. If you have concerns or comments please speak freely and I will reply in kind. I am a level-headed human being after all and have no wish to cause this game to get out of hand.

My involvement in this RP is restricted solely to if or when Rob dies, i am happy to remove my post and wait for this eventuality. I'm patient, he's got to pop his clogs some day.

Me and Rob both agreed on the death thing. If Cuchulainn has to die to do it, he will. I do not intend Cuchulainn's body to survive the encounter anyway.

My involvement in this RP is restricted solely to if or when Rob dies, i am happy to remove my post and wait for this eventuality. I'm patient, he's got to pop his clogs some day.

Thank you, whole heartedly, Fenix for that. I understand your agreement with Rob perfectly, rather interesting too from a technical standpoint. But you can have my word that under my authority fully weilded by Treize, he shall not die.

Me and Rob both agreed on the death thing. If Cuchulainn has to die to do it, he will. I do not intend Cuchulainn's body to survive the encounter anyway.

Yes, that may be. However you did not agree with me. Its my thread. Hence the action was voided. If you're going to take such extreme actions, then it must be done with me in the loop; that type of thread-altering action anyway. I'm sorry, truly, Godular but I cannot allow it.

Wouldja get on MSN then?

It might be your thread, and I'd even be willing to conduct a rather cataclysmic fight/response thingie. It can even take several other forms, but it would be NICE to discuss on MSN.

You don't have to worry about me butting in, Thrashia. I'm an amused OOC observer and have basically zero chance of being an IC participant for various reasons. =p

TFU did try to get me to help him a while back, but I pointed out that there is basically no IC way that would ever happen.

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Deleted everything after Post #39 as requested. If you want my remaining post edited, please inform me as to the changes you wish.

Deleted everything after Post #39 as requested. If you want my remaining post edited, please inform me as to the changes you wish.

Its fine, I may just create a new thread since the original is now cluttered. I will have that done sometime either tonight or tomorrow.

Hey, Thrashia. What of my lady's post of her desire to leave with Balrogga's character? Does that need to be deleted too?

My Aumanii character PRAWNS U NUBS HRD! Why? His powers of mediocrity protect him from super powers. He is so average that he evade explosions, be released from captivity, survive a fire fight...and why? Cause he's just that guy that doesn't really become an hero...he's just some dude present at an event.

If this was a horror movie, though, he'd probably be being digested by the blob by now.

My Aumanii character PRAWNS U NUBS HRD! Why? His powers of mediocrity protect him from super powers. He is so average that he evade explosions, be released from captivity, survive a fire fight...and why? Cause he's just that guy that doesn't really become an hero...he's just some dude present at an event.

If this was a horror movie, though, he'd probably be being digested by the blob by now.

I didn't even understand a single word of this...:confused:

@Telros: Just add that in when I post next.

Mission accomplished!

I read your post Thrashia and distilled it into the main points.

- My plan is so awesome it'll work great!
- But I can't tell anyone cause that'll ruin it.
- What! Why aren't you acting according to plan?
- Wahhh!

What did you expect to happen if you don't tell anyone what your plan is dipstick?

I'll alter my posts, but tell me when I'm bait next time. I'm not TFU, I go along with things even if I don't "win".

A few more points as well.

1) Treize staged an elaborate hoax to get Rob and in the process took away all the defenses and possibilities for help from all the other delegates while taking them hostage with a large force of armed guards. You really expect them to trust Treize when he says he'll pardon them? Especially in my case as Ubuto knows jack shit about him. We're not talking "Oh I understand, let's get together soon for tea and have a laugh over it." but "We don't negotiate with terrorists, prepare to be destroyed."

2)EMP along with gravity are the two most wanked real scientific effects in FT. They're fucking weak and EMP can be defeated with a sheet of steel with some holes in it. Cell phones have those so they can work with their aerial inside the case! Expecting military hardware, like say emergency shield generators, to go down to EMP is ridiculous.

And finally and most importantly,

I. Don't. Like. Being. Used.

I. Don't. Like. Being. Used.

Actually, this is Robs coup, Thrashia just betrayed Rob.

Actually, this is Robs coup, Thrashia just betrayed Rob.

I was used as bait for Rob without my knowledge, ie I was used. Do you not understand how being lied to can piss someone off?

I was used as bait for Rob without my knowledge, ie I was used. Do you not understand how being lied to can piss someone off?

Dude... chill out.

I wasn't told the truth either... not a big deal.

In technicality, you were not lied to, merely not told the whole plan.

Indeed, and then you guys get uppity when we don't act in accordance to it. See my point now numbnuts?

I was used as bait for Rob without my knowledge, ie I was used. Do you not understand how being lied to can piss someone off?

In technicality, you were not lied to, merely not told the whole plan.

Dude... chill out.

I wasn't told the truth either... not a big deal.

Christ can no one read, the biggest deal is that Thrashia got pissed when we didn't do shit as he planned, because he didn't tell us the plan! That's his own damn fault.

for the record, I have no issues in losing, frankly some people rushed in at the wrong time, thats not my fault, rob was simply an important character to future rps, thats why I tired to retrieve him, Xessmithia how do you think I feel but any way I don't expect much help from people now , Ill just try to fight to the last man now.

for the record, I have no issues in losing, frankly some people rushed in at the wrong time, thats not my fault, rob was simply an important character to future rps, thats why I tired to retrieve him, Xessmithia how do you think I feel but any way I don't expect much help from people now , Ill just try to fight to the last man now.

Much the same as me, only worser.

Christ can no one read, the biggest deal is that Thrashia got pissed when we didn't do shit as he planned, because he didn't tell us the plan! That's his own damn fault.

Perhaps I can't read... but somehow I recall a statement that went like this:

And finally and most importantly,

I. Don't. Like. Being. Used.

So... it would seem the biggest deal to you was actually that you were used. For some reason you decided to get upset OOCly because you don't like your IC character to be used... hmm...

So... it would seem the biggest deal to you was actually that you were used. For some reason you decided to get upset OOCly because you don't like your IC character to be used... hmm...

No I don't like myself being used by Thrashia to set a trap without telling me. Not my character dipshit, me. He made this big spiel and "get on MSN right now its urgent" shit, and I had been off of NS for months. So he springs his little surprise and then gets mad when I don't do things according to his plan, which he didn't tell me in the first place.

It has nothing to do with my 5-second generated character you child and everything to do with him not treating me with respect.

No I don't like myself being used by Thrashia to set a trap without telling me. Not my character dipshit, me. He made this big spiel and "get on MSN right now its urgent" shit, and I had been off of NS for months. So he springs his little surprise and then gets mad when I don't do things according to his plan, which he didn't tell me in the first place.

It has nothing to do with my 5-second generated character you child and everything to do with him not treating me with respect.

Well honestly, i don't believe what Thrashia did was because the thread had somehow gone somewhere he hadnt plan, it was really because some people in the thread were acting... how do you say, he'd been away longer than he wanted and in his abscense some people had done things that wouldnt have happened had he been there to RP the reactions of the stations guards, such as escorting the rest of the delegates out of the room and assuring them of their saftey, which would have saved your deleagtes surely Xessmithia.

It would also have influenced the post with the guy who stood up and pushed back a chair, and certainly godulars post who, as he RPs it now, would not have been allowed to get up let alone sidle towards Rob. Now, that isnt to say that its going to impossible for godular to do what he did, just not how he did it.

Edit:

Plus, perhaps the reason you wernt told OOC was because the affair was very clandestine, it was important to Thrashia being able to pull off the betrayal at all that TFU didnt know OOC for sure that he had been betrayed, as, quite frankly, there was too high a chance that he might pull a stunt to get out of there. Thats also the reason Menelmacars appearance touched such a nerve, it looked very much like just the thing everyone was afraid he would do if he knew OOC. And come on, doesnt it make it more interesting to have something totally unexpected happen ?

So he should have fucking told people to hold their responses until he could get back. It's not a hard concept.

And none of that changes that he's mad at us for his lack of planning. We can't read his mind, he has to actually say shit to get it noticed. Had he wanted to assure everyone of their safety he could made his surprise post and had Bob escorted out of the room with all the soldiers following in that post. That would have solved the problem right then and there.

Plus, perhaps the reason you wernt told OOC was because the affair was very clandestine, it was important to Thrashia being able to pull off the betrayal at all that TFU didnt know OOC for sure that he had been betrayed, as, quite frankly, there was too high a chance that he might pull a stunt to get out of there. Thats also the reason Menelmacars appearance touched such a nerve, it looked very much like just the thing everyone was afraid he would do if he knew OOC. And come on, doesnt it make it more interesting to have something totally unexpected happen ?

I already know that's the likely reason why.

Unexpected events are interesting, I enjoyed the surprise, what I didn't enjoy was Thrashia's, "But that's a stupid reaction you all make. Treize loves puppies and flowers and sunshine and will never hurt anyone who isn't a big mean poopy head, how come you didn't read my mind and know that. It's totally not my fault for failing to take into account that taking people hostage makes my character's pretty words look like bullshit."

It's asinine.

Well honestly, to me at least, he made it perfectly clear that all the delegates apart from Rob would be let go without harm, and, more importantly, that there were many guns trained on everyone and that 'trouble' would not be tolerated. The Xessmithian delegates are free to commit suicide and try to escape because its perfectly legitimate that they wouldnt believe a word Thrashia said, i wouldn't either, but more unreasonable is that people should be able to get up a walk around. The way i understand it Thrashia didnt not expect or intend to be away so long, and had he been there would have corrected peoples misundestanding of the situation as quickly as possible before so many people had posted.

No I don't like myself being used by Thrashia to set a trap without telling me. Not my character dipshit, me. He made this big spiel and "get on MSN right now its urgent" shit, and I had been off of NS for months. So he springs his little surprise and then gets mad when I don't do things according to his plan, which he didn't tell me in the first place.

You feel used over an online RPG? Seriously, did your life change that much because of this RP? If you were off of NS for months, why would you suddenly come back just because someone asked you to, and why would you both staying now that it didn't go the way you wanted?

His reason for getting mad is completely valid. The actions people took clearly didn't flow with what was happening, so Thrashia decided to remove all of that crap. It's not about the plan or not - if someone can figure out a legit way to kill President Whatever with all of those troopers, knights, and shinigamis, I'm sure he'd have to accept it.

And seriously, if you are going to keep flaming and screaming bloody hell, you might as well just forget the whole thing and leave NS again.

Everyone needs to calm down and work this out reasonably. Right now Rob's jaunting off into the Cluster to fight Tannelorn, all the merry while recruiting little allies to help him in his endeavors. If any of us are going to salvage this RP, it's dependant on getting everyone together and working out a solution.

Not arguing, not whining. Just fixing it. Like normal, civil human beings.

Right Right. Well, lets just get on with whatever Thrashia has planned and Menel and finish this thread so we can move on?

Thank you Fenix, you explained my reasoning better than I would have been in a civil position to do so. It's just bad luck that this is all happening when I'm in the middle of moving and haven't proper acess to the internet 24/7, much like Coreworlds is right now in his predicament.

Xess, I didn't mean you to feel used. It was simply on a need-to-know basis that anyone at all was told my plan. I didn't even tell US or Chron about it until a day or two ago, their conviction that I was indeed part of TFU's plan was required as well as the promising allegiance of other outside nations such as yourself. You were an essential part of it. The reason I couldn't tell you was simply for security reasons. All it takes is one slip of the tongue sometimes and all hell gets sent out the window. I'll ignore your comments and simply let it slip since it seems you were pretty heated when you wrote those.


I am right now making a new thread for the continuation of the rp. Menel is allowed to enter on my achknowledgement of his probe. I've no arguements with it. Xess, if you want, your delegate can still self-implode. I've no arguements with that either.

Here's a link to the new thread. This thread will remain open for continued OOC talk.

LINK (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=530832)

So, we are allowed to send our delegates with Balrogga back to Coruscant to watch TFU stand trial?

Would it be allowed to bring our delegates' guard with them?

I don't think Grand Admiral Thrawn would allow any armed guards aboard the same ship taking Rob back other than ones he is under control of or mine.

There will not be any guards allowed on the same ship as the prisoner.


I also think there is plenty of time to get there because US will make sure any trial is public, in my opinion. I might be wrong but the benifits of using this for publicity and to make sure nobody else tries this in the future are far greater if he does make it public.

So, we are allowed to send our delegates with Balrogga back to Coruscant to watch TFU stand trial?

Would it be allowed to bring our delegates' guard with them?


Are you nuts?!

Is Regent Costello going with Bastidas?

Will the trial go on long enough for there to be rescue attempts?

Please see Unified Sith for the answers to these and other important questions.

After repeated deliberation, I wanna let folks assure that Cuchulainn is not going to cause more trouble, and will wish to be included with anybody who 'rides back' with President Bastidas and assorted guard complement to the trial place...

Actually, I never said there was a trial, DMG did.

I am just prisoner transport. Telros asked me OOCly if he could bum a ride back so I made that offer.

If you look to RL you will see there was a long time between the capture of Sadam and his trial. I suspect there will be a simular time delay as both sides prepare their cases. This is not transport to any quick trial. Unified Sith will announce any such trials when it occurs and will most likely be in its own Thread.

Ohs... so there is nothing really left for this thread unless someone wants to try to break him out?

Hey, Sith, just a thought that occured to me when I read your post...

You may already have a plan or somebody in mind, but if you need it, you could ask one of my people (presumably Master Kendo Zayne because he'll be there) to be the impartial judge... seeing as DMG hasn't been involved in much major GE action and they are Greys instead of Sith or Jedi.

Hey, Sith, just a thought that occured to me when I read your post...

You may already have a plan or somebody in mind, but if you need it, you could ask one of my people (presumably Master Kendo Zayne because he'll be there) to be the impartial judge... seeing as DMG hasn't been involved in much major GE action and they are Greys instead of Sith or Jedi.

My Imperial Knights are gray knights too.

PS- sith, my guy's name is 'Treize', not 'Treive'. :rolleyes:

Just your knights or are you using that as all encompassing?

Thrashia, is there anybody Cuchulainn could talk to about going to Coruscant to wait for and eventually witness the trial? ICly he would not want to travel there with his own vessel, if only out of a sense of paranoia.

Just a thought, but you could probably ask any of the other dignitaries who are intending to head there.

He did. He had an awkward way of asking, but he did ask.

Woh, somehow I compeltely misread your OOC post. I thought you wanted to hitch a ride on someone's ship, not get permission to go.

He kinda meant both.

He kinda meant both.

Oh woh, I must be f'ed up. I read it wrong the second time.

Like I said. He had an awkward way of asking.

Like I said. He had an awkward way of asking.

No, no. I meant I misread your OOC comment two times. But w/e...

Uhh... in the other thread I sent my guy to Coruscant for the trial... what do I do now?

If they dont want to keep it secret, when you hail the planet they should tell you where you should be.

Aye, but I landed in the other thread and I don't think I'm gonna get a response there.

I suppose you'll have to wait for the trail to start, and then youll be able to know where it's at, unless Sith is kind enough to post and tell you...

Eh... I guess I'll edit my post and repost it in the new thread...

Eh... I guess I'll edit my post and repost it in the new thread...

Which apparently was ignored...

was not ignored, im just working 12 hours shifts tonight and tommorrow and was yesterday, only enough time for one post :)

Ah... no problem then.