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Hello, I have a gun that will solve your law inforcements needs for a small, unwealthy, or just want cheap guns.. Here are the specs and the pic...

Name: Jim7 SHortstock Assault Gun
Bullets Used: .333
Safety: None
Weight: 5 lbs
Scope: None
Clip: Can hold 40
Price: 450 USD or buy them in bulk.

Place orders here so you can have them available to your law inforcement or small armed forces.

Pic is here:<a href="http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gunhi4.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2451/gunhi4.th.png" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

Also Special Hand Guns are here.. These hand guns will rip a person in half if shot right.

Name: 447 Specialised Glock
Bullet: 50 Cal Minimised specail Bullets
Safety: 1
Weight: Fully loaded is 8 lbs
CLip: Can hold 4
Price: 750 USD

There are only a small majority of these hand guns left so buy quickly.

Pic Is Here: <a href="http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pistolqh1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5762/pistolqh1.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

Please dont say how bad the pics are. Im young and kinda new to this...

pist, your HTML is showing, which unfotuantly these boards don't use, they use BB tags instead. in thsi case the [IMG ] tag i.e. [IMG ]http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5762/pistolqh1.jpg[ /IMG] (remove the spaces in side the tags to get the image to appear), you are also presenting the thumbnails of the pics.

Anyway i really like the pistol, the image sems a little blurry but the overall design seems good.

OOC: They're not a bad start, however they need more. Dimensions, rate of fire, etc. Also, your weights need adjusting. An assault rifle of that size (I would suggest using a more standard caliber, especially one in metrics such as 7.62 or other, a .333 is not very common and comes out very irregularly in metrics) would possibly be upwards of the 9lb range, consider that a loaded M16 is 8.5lbs and this is a considerably larger caliber. Thus, the lower the weight of the weapon the more recoil on the shooter.

The pistol, meanwhile, is far too heavy, and the clip capacity is far too small. Consider that the Desert Eagle in .50 weighs approx 4 lbs. and has a clip capacity of 7 rounds.

I'm also unsure as to what "safety" means. If it means a safety catch... I don't care how the hell cheap it is, I would not buy a weapon without a safety. I'd suggest replacing it with "Firing Modes" if that's what it does mean and list things such as safe, single, full-auto, etc.

If developed more these could be decent and acceptable designs. But at the shape they're in now they need work.

Also, I know you requested I don't comment on the pics, but... It looks like you edited a pre-existing picture for the rifle. I'd suggest not doing that unless given explicit permission to do so.

EDIT- I'd suggest visiting the NS Draftroom for more help. :)
Link (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx)

Beth Gellert's irregular forces use an automatic pistol that has no safety, largely because the object was to create a simple weapon that can be quickly, easily, and cheaply mass produced. More to the point, the TT-33, like many of its spin-offs, has no safety catch (though the hammer can be kept on a half-cock from which the weapon can't fire, if you like).

OOC: It's the rifle not having a safety in this case that worries me... Other than removing the bullet from the chamber there's no way to guarantee it won't go off...

Guys, Thank you for the POSITIVE feedback... Yes I used A pre made rifle but the only objects I used whas the barrel(found online Yahoo.com) and the end of the stock(I had it in my archives). SO I dont see the problem there.. If you can list down ALL the specifications I should have on there please list them.. And what they should be for the guns..

Guys, Thank you for the POSITIVE feedback... Yes I used A pre made rifle but the only objects I used whas the barrel(found online Yahoo.com) and the end of the stock(I had it in my archives). SO I dont see the problem there.. If you can list down ALL the specifications I should have on there please list them.. And what they should be for the guns..

No problem, for the exact specs I suggest checking out the Draftroom.

However I do beg to differ on the source of your rifle "template" somewhat...

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8109/uhohde9.png

I wouldn't have noticed it if I hadn't gone browsing through the Havenic Trading Company storefront.

Please do not sample my images, Ive never given permission to do so, and never will.

-Jason
The player and artist behind Mekugi

Czechomany, I have been contacted on IRC and asked about your rifle design vis-a-vis: Intellectual Property and how it is enforced in NS. So I have good news and bad news-- but in defiance of tradition I'll give you the good news first:

The good news is, I've ruled that your rifle is original enough and no formal action will be taken against you as a result of this. In my opinion your rifle bears few structural similarities to Mekugi's design, and for this reason I have declined any action against you under the auspices of protecting intellectual property.

Unfortunately (and this is the icky part), a very good point was made to me after I had made my decision and that point is this: the only detailed portions of your work appear to have been copied wholesale. I don't think you had any malicious intent with this so I upheld my decision even in view of this point, but I do feel compelled to caution you against this kind of thing. If you're just getting started with gun design and you need some samples, that's fine--but just make sure the person you're taking them from is cool with it until you figure out how to render your own.