Condemnation of Evil: The Doomani
Hotdogs2
12-06-2007, 13:54
Introduction
President Roberts was nearing the end of his time in office, having served the nation for over eight years now he had just a few months before the next elections, elections which he could not take part in for another three years as head of state. Although not an official law it had never been done before, and he didn't plan on changing tradition, the opposition would be sure to do their best to ensure it didn't happen. So, as the beginning of the end loomed before him, he felt he must have his name written in the history books as the leader he had always sold himself as: pro civil liberties, and pro peace. He had messed up quite badly banning Praetonians from aquiring weapons after the unfortunate events in Spizania, and had to double back on that attempt after not only the opposition by Praetonians complained, a fact which would serve to sever relations with the quick changing politics of the nation. After all, some said "There are no permanent alliances, only permanent national interests", and it was something he had taken to heart with the criticisms he had received. There was then, no greater national interest than spreading peace and civil liberties whilst improving Hotdogs2 itself, but on the same note, there are only personal interests, and for President Roberts it was making history.
The announcement
The press officers were crowded in the press holdings, camera crews jostling to get into a good possition to film the ongoing conference of the Hotdogs Liberal Party (HLP). Some journalists had been lucky, they had been given VIP passes, but these were few and far between, only those who had done a real service to the country through their journalism even got the chance to think about such luxuries, which often followed being awarded one of the few and sought after awards for services to the state. A hush feel over the room, the many seated party members waiting expectantly for the final address from probably the last party convention to be headed by President Roberts. Diego Maschonix walked onto the stage, directly heading for the main podium with a rather serious look to his face, unusual for the publically happy and jokey man, giving rise to his nick name "The comedian" by political commentators.
"Ladies and Gentlemen" He said, "Please welcome the President of the Free Republic, Edward Roberts!" And with those extremely short words he stepped back, clapping enthusiastically to get the crowd involved. As the president stepped out, followed by several of his key advisers and members of government he nodded to the crowds in his usual manner, taking note of where the press were located as he had been briefed.
"Thank you!" stepping onto the podium he started talking almost before he had stopped moving, he liked to get the crowd interested quickly and get to the speech. He turned around, and uttered some silent words to the members of his government who were stood in front of their chairs set back from the front of the stage. They sat down, slowing their clapping as a sign to the rest of the crowd that the President wanted to speak.
"Thank you for your warm welcome" Started the President. "May i just say how great it is to be here, in fact my ninth convention as leader of this great party!" Some cheers were heard, and a cry of "hooray" from one or two of the onlookers.
"And what a great nine years it has been...the economy, still going strong, still growing, public services again improving and at a great level of effectiveness, and yet more liberty for our citizens. I think, to put it bluntly the HLP has succeeded in its aims, to lead this country to do better things and be stronger. Indeed, we have never seen so many people so happy with the country and the way its run, not modern politics were born have we been so free, and yet so safe and secure.
However, despite great steps forwards within our nation, elsewhere we have seen these rights and liberties stripped and taken away from nations we had hardly heard of before. We have tried to make our allies stronger through our membership of the GDI, and of the SL, and yet we see members of both alliances going against those rights and liberties, even if only by trading with those nations known to commit genocide. However we have bucked this trend, we have supported Allanea (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12704793#post12704793) recently in attempting to save countless numbers of people who should have been free citizens from the Doomani menace. At the time i announced a small scale embargo (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12705026&postcount=11) of the Doomingsland nation, and called for their people to rise against their oppressors. However, it was not widely recognized nor enforced, only leading to the government stopping any trading it carried out with the dictatorship. The pledges by our allies to support Allanea we close to our heart, the national press closely followed the information surrounding the rescue. For giving up those people, we thank Doomingsland. For capturing them in the first place, we do not. Surely then when nations such as AMF and the Golgoth hordes are actively stopping slavery, nations who to some are the most evil left on this earth, even to some of our allies, Doomingsland must be yet worse for their active use of slavery to back their economies. So i put it to you, what have we REALLY done to stop them?"
The president stopped, a rather dramatic pause to his speech, which he was really getting involved in. He had looked directly at the press as he said the last sentence, as if it was their fault that not enough had been done to stop the darkness spread from the Doomani government.
"Not much is the answer. Not nearly enough. Our businesses have carried on accepting trade from Doomingsland when and where it appears, and before it the armed forces procured massive amounts of weaponry from their arms industry. Such trading spreads the power of the evil nation and its dictator, catholic they call themselves. They are an insult to that word, as a nation where religion is taken so seriously none of the philosophers here would ever argue that Doomingsland is a true catholic nation. Well then, now comes the question which you may be thinking. What can we do to stop this evil? Well, to me there is only one option. Having failed to make our point with the small scale embargo i believe we must step our campaign to end this evil, and so, supported by my government i have an announcement to make: for the first time in my presidency i declare that any and all trade with Doomingsland, its businesses or citizens is now prohibited, commerce and trade with the Doomani is not something we need or want. We shall be enforcing this embargo to the letter, and welcome any and all nations, ally or enemy, to follow our lead and shun the nation of Doomingsland. There may be evil in our world that you would call for action against, but none are as disgusting and Doomingsland! If a nation feels threatened by Doomingsland we call to them as an ally that they should look no further than seek strength from us, for too long Doomingsland has roamed free, its more than past the time that someone stood up to them.
I hope we can all support our nation, it is not for our good, it is for the good of the world, and the responsibility of the world to face up to that evil, so it is not just my job to defend the world from this threat, but yours as citizens of not just Hotdogs2, but the world as a whole."
With this he stepped back, signifying the end of his speech, to roars of applause. However the question still remains, what else could the President do to get his name into the history books? An embargo is one thing, actually ensuring a nation changes is another...
Channel 4 News
"We go live now to outside the Hotdogs Liberal Party conference in Capital City, Glascenster, home to our national politics, where Sophie Mills has been following the action."
The live satellite uplink was beamed through the country, as the experienced political journalist was stood outside the entrance to the conference centre.
"Well, today is surely the beginning of a new age to international politics from President Roberts. In a completely unexpected act, he announced the launch of a full scale embargo against Doomingsland in the final address."
A short clip of the speech flicked through a few sentences of the Presidents speech, before returning to the awaiting Sophie.
"Whilst not a completely new action, it is the first time we have seen a complete embargo on a single nation for some time, and never before from the President. Indeed, as an advocate of fair trade it seems that embargoing someone is not the way to go, and there have already been some very mixed reactions to this announcements, let alone from the businesses who this will effect. However, despite these criticisms, some even calling for impeachment, the overwhelming majority and population seem to support the president, if we look at some local citizens we recently spoke to...
The report would carry on, more and more information on the opinions surrounding the embargo, but the repercussions of the embargo and what it entailed had not yet been felt, as only the highest in the government knew exactly what this meant on an international front....
[placeholder for detailed post tomorrow morning. Consider a ban on all trade with Doomingsland already announced, but I need a detailed post to make]
Official USSW Statement
I am proud to say that Wagdog has never traded with the Imperium Doomanum, and nor shall we. Their weapons may be powerful, but we can acquire as suitable for our needs elsewhere; without funding an empire of iniquity, or its endless thirst for the armed overthrow of free peoples in the name of its own perversion of Christian teaching, in the process. And as for their other products, we have no interest in these either, also having suppliers with whom we could do business far more ethically than with Doomingsland.
Hence, we support Hotdogs and President Roberts in calling upon all free nations to boycott the Doomani slave empire; to stand up for Freedom! Whatever one's opinion of Lord Dreadfire or Gholgoth or NATO, it cannot be denied that at the moment they are the ones fighting and dying to free captive nations from under the boot of the autocrat Caesar Maximus III Doomanus. That is, a tyrant who obviously thinks his release of certain captives to Allanea will be enough to weaken the resolve of his opponents, which it will not; since by proving he is capable of doing the right thing in part, Caesar Doomanus must now prove he can do the right thing in full by freeing all his benighted subjects, before I or my government would consider any relations with his Empire whatsoever.
I can only speak fully for myself, although I suspect that my allies shall either join me at once or in due time. The progress of the ViZionarian Freedom campaign (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528378), with the Doomani Empire's ruthless slaughter of Mediport (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12740934) whole and worse, is showing the world the true character of the Imperium Doomanum; and hence I don't doubt more daily grow uncomfortable with the very thought of trading with so vile a regime. In sum, President Roberts, I am with you in this embargo; and I suspect more shall follow me very soon.
In Solidarity,
Carolinus Horridus
Commander-in-Chief, USSW War Office
Party Secretary, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Party
General Secretary, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Doomingsland
12-06-2007, 19:06
OFFICIAL RESPONSE
IMPERIVM DOOMANVM
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Silly infidels, embargoes are for the UN! :)
Thank you, come again,
Magister Nuntiorum G. Quintus Livius
Steel and Fire
12-06-2007, 19:57
Official Message from the Triumvirate
Oddly, none of you ever tried anything like this back when the Doomani military was at its full power, before Automagfreek decided to invade. Perhaps the nations mounting this embargo (and embargos are pretty much useless anyway, given that virtually everyone produces everything they need domestically these days) have principles; but they only seem to have principles when there's little chance anyone would beat them up for sticking to them.
In short: You're a bunch of cowards. Have a nice day.
In addition, we have no qualms about purchasing products from Doomani corporations just because the Doomani government engages in what some see as unethical practices. Bear in mind that, in free-market, capitalist nations, business and government tend to be entirely separate, unlike in your states.
The Triumvirate, Republic of Steel and Fire
-- Chalabi Jones
-- Peter Aaronson
-- Bernard Rutherford
Keep in mind, that these guys are military leaders who overthrew the old government in a coup. Thus, they wouldn't know tact if it hit them in the face; and being used to sending threatening surrender messages and battleplans, they have a penchant for ticking the international community off. ...Maybe I should put a notice like this in my signature.
Clandonia Prime
12-06-2007, 20:48
Official Clandonian Response
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Open Declaration:
His Majesty's government strongly condemns the actions undertake by Hotdogs2, this is childish action does nothing than aid the support of terrorist forces in Kahanistanian and the illegal war against Doomani forces in ViZion. The Crown government has taken the matter of HD2 to the Sovereign League headquarters in Kingston and we are petitioning for their expulsion. We are already displeased with the effort of the Allaneans and their traitorous support of Freekish and NATO forces which recently annexed British Londinium killing millions of civilians on the basis of liberation from the Sovereign League, an organisation which had kept the peace for nearly twenty years. As to be expected the Bolsheviks of Wagdog pipe up when they oppress their own people economically and socially. We have warned Wagdog already from medaling with matters that don't concern their own and frankly we find their comments on Caesar Maximus III Doomanus insulting. Prince Cassius Alexius Doomanus and Princess Sofia, daughter of King William VII who were engaged in marriage, the Wagdogians have insulted the Royal Clandonian Family.
The Crown Government does not like to usually interfere in the economy but such matters like this are an exception. On behalf of the Clandonian Business Initiative we are pleased to announce a twenty fold increase in Clandonian-Doomani trade, an order of four hundred container and two hundred tanker ships has been placed with Imperial Clandonian Shipyards. In response to the continuing war and threats the Doomanis face the Crown Government is pleased to announced the introduction by the Bank of Clandonia of Doomani War Bonds to help Doominsgland fight the fascist of Automagfreek, the terrorists of Kahanistanian and the illegal coalition attacking ViZion.
The Clandonian government and monarchy stand side to side with Doomingsland in their time of crisis, Clandonian forces will be ready should the situation call for support in whatever theatre. We officially announce the implication of a sixty percent important tariff onto all products coming from Hotdogs2 which will remain in place until the lift their childish and socialist embargo on Doomingsland.
God Save the King
Prime Minister David Sistilin
The PeoplesFreedom
12-06-2007, 21:10
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What is my fate? My duty is my fate.
State Department Communication
We also condemn this action by the governments of Hotdogs2 and Wagdog, and to a lesser extent the actions of Allanea. The brave Doomani soldiers have held off the incredibly evil Freekish hordes. The socialists of Wagdog have no right interfering with the holy crusade that the Doomani's are on. We heavily condemn their actions in this matter.
We have decided to follow Clandonia Prime in this matter. As such, trade with Doomingsland is being increased, and the government has approved war bonds.
Additionally, the Catholic Church of The Peoples Freedom has announced a donation of nine hundred million dollars, and offerers crusaders to be sent to assist with the destruction of Doomingsland's enemies.
Ministry of State
Our country agrees with our allies in Wagdog in condemning the Doomani for their atrocious actions and will also impose our own embargi on their trade products. We have no qualms about using economic warfare to reinforce our position against their immoral war, and we are totally behind the Freekish forces in their quest to destroy this evil. If we cannot fight them, we will cripple their economy and ability to wage war whatever way we can.
We will not back down in our decision, and the statements of some nations that we are cowards for taking advantage of their weakness is nothing more than folly. Our country is simply using its influence in the most effective manner possible to weaken their country in whatever way we can. If these nations continue their threatening and insulting speech, we will be forced to defend our honor and the honor of our allies.
Threats will not be tolerated by our nation under any circumstances.
Proconsul Valerian Kosyachenko, Ministry of State
Generic empire
12-06-2007, 22:19
Official Statement from Emperor Kazatmiru I
As many are already quite aware, the Empire has recently renounced its former alliance and all diplomatic and economic ties with the Doomish state and its puppet organization, the CAD. As we have stated and as President Roberts has echoed, the Doomish nation is a hypocritical one, proclaiming itself an Empire of faithful Catholics, when in reality its attrocities are a blasphemy against Our Lord and his Church. As the Sovereign of a Christian Empire and avowed defender of the faith, I personally cannot allow this, and though my actions have drawn insults and threats of war from the Doomish Emperor Maximus and his sacreligious court I will stand by them and consequently stand up to the Doomish menace.
Therefore, I and the Generian people alike welcome the recent actions of the government of Hotdogs2 and fully support the language of President Roberts, one of few truly bold men left on this Earth. Any enemy of the Doomish government is a friend of the Generic Empire and can most certainly count on her support should Maximus and his pet hypocrites decide to put action to the bombastic language typical of them. The Empire currently prepares her armies for a conflict which the Doomish Empire has made very clear looms in the near future. While we pray for Freekish victory, we will certainly welcome any chance to join battle against the unwashed barbarians and their bloodthirsty ways. Should it be that the Empire finds brave nations who share similar sentiments, than we shall gladly stand shoulder to shoulder with them, and once and for all drive the barbaric works of the Doomish back into the pit from which they have been raised.
May God protect the righteous,
Emperor Kazatmiru I, Sovereign Lord of Generia and Her Dominions
Hotdogs2
12-06-2007, 23:09
Hotdogs2 applauds Allanea, Wagdog, Vetalia and Generic empire
Official Announcement
Hotdogs2 would like to show its appreciation to the four countries supporting the embargo against Doomingsland. We must look to help the Doomani people to change their ways, rather than just pressure them economically. Hotdogs2 will be offering talks with Doomingsland in the near future to discuss relationships between ourselves and their nation, although we cannot stand for Doomingsland continuing in their evil ways, which is why we have extended our embargo. However we would like to stamp on any notion that we are supporting the Freeks by these actions, it could not be further from the truth! We condemn the actions of both the Golgoth hordes and those by Doomingsland, but we hope we can change their actions through peace rather than by war, and would warn you to do the same. War is the way these nations communicate, to tempt them into another war is just going to lead them further down the wrong path, instead we must do our best to lead them the right way peacefully and diplomatically. I hope you will be with Hotdogs2 in this task, we must exhaust all diplomatic means before even thinking of using force, and even then it should only be as the very last resort if it would save and improve more lives than it would end, however worthy a cause.
Clips from various news channels, newspapers radio and random citizens with time to spare:
Hotdians pour scorn onto Clandonia
Left and right unite against opponents
Direct quote by a rightist politician:
"These Clandonians seem to think somehow they can sway Hotdogs2. Our great, powerful and rightful nation! How dare they, they are as bad as the scum of Doomingsland. You can rest assured then that i condemn Clandonia to the depths of the fiery pits, as do i to all Doomani people, who have so much fear as to never rise up against their evil oppressors. They claim they support a Doomingsland, they support evil! Why is it the Clandonians fear the Freeks so much as to support another, worse evil in its place? Well, i think its quite clear, from their hideout within haven they feel invincible, i suppose history has not taught them a lesson in that? It seemed just yesterday when Clandonia was wrecked nation...nothings changed!"
Channel 4 news report
"The president has been rapid to denounce supposed allies Clandonia as "Meaningless" and "Insulting", he stated that insults had no room in international politics, let alone in official statements by a nation. He also referred to how it was hypocritical that the Clandonians, members of the SL, supported Doomingsland whilst the SL itself states that it "A tool for placing strong...pressure on countries which deny their citizens the basics rights to liberty." The President claimed that by making people slaves Doomingsland was breaking this rule as those slaves were then citizens of Doomingsland, and although he was not calling for SL support he felt that the Clandonians were acting as "a thorn in our side" but one which "is so minuscule as to be worthless". After these comments he would not take any questions on Clandonia. Statistics show the supposed 60% tarrif on Hotdogs2 will not be a problem, as trade with Clandonians has been highly limited for a member of the SL. However some government officials, who we shall not name, have stated that they will look to bypass these regulations by selling the products through other nations instead, much the same way Praetonian companies reacted to opening trade with Golgoth. Some businesses are reported to be looking at opening up companies in Spizania under various aliases to continue any trade without incurring any losses. There may also be a case for taking this issue against Clandonia to the SL, as they are damaging economic relations between the two nations and hampering free trade."
Random Hotdian:
"Funny how Clandonia states the Freeks have been murdering in British Londinium, when themselves did not have the guts to stay in the nation. If they were still there defending British Londinium i would give them some credit and allow them to use the argument that the freeks are evil also, as they are not i think calling us childish is just ridiculous. Plus when you remember Doomingsland is obviously the more evil of the two, its the freeks who tried to stop their slavery after all."
OOC: Please note, its late and i have exams tomorrow. Focus is mainly on Clandonia because he's complaining HD2 should be kicked from the SL, as you can see, so i dealt with that first. Also more to respond/rip appart, i do my best, and will do the same for everyone else soon enough. Hope it's all ok, Steel and Fire i understand OOCly, but ICly your gonna get as much flak thrown at you as possible ;). (metaphorically speaking, words not actual flak...)
Official Allanean Response
We will do more then merely condemn the Doomani.
We will do more then merely declare a complete ban on trade with the Imperium.
We will aid those who will oppose the Doomani actively, in any way, shape or form we can.
We are not puny, inbred cowards like the Clandonians. We are Allaneans. We are better. Maybe it is because their princess acts like the personal sex-toy of some Doomani noble that they behave like that. More likely though that they were always idiots.
Hereby, we are pleased to announce the Doomani Freedom Act, 2007.
The first provision of the Act is to confirm that the United States is legally at war (albeit a state of ceasefire is present) with the Doomani, and that all trade with the foul scum of the Imperium remains illegal.
The second provision is to ensure the survival of the Kahanistani Republic. As such, 100,000 Nakil 1A1 main battle tanks will be donated to the Kahanistani, and preparations will be made to donate to them other equipment.
The third provision is the most important. We will hereby offer an agreement of free trade with any nation that declares war on Doomingsland or an embargo thereof. Thereafter, all imports of goods from Generic Empire, Wagdog, Vetalia and the Hotdian nation. We hereby offer to all anti-Doomani nations to unite in a steel ring of fellowship from Port-Allanea to Kahanistani Haven, from Gholgoth to Prussia – we will both benefit from free trade and destroy the Doomani oppressor.
This is all.
May God bless Allanea and the lady Miriel nos Feanor, our beautiful queen.
P.S.
Mr. Livius, we liked your Emperor's movie. Perhaps, if The Emperor at Home and at Work II is ever filmed, we will reconsider the issue of trade – if only to enjoy more footage of Maximus doing these... wonderful things.
The Lone Alliance
13-06-2007, 09:27
Message from The Allied States of The Lone Alliance:
There are things that are universally evil, no matter what, and horrid excuse of a nation known as Doomingsland is one of them. The Lone Alliance fully supports an Embargo...
Official Allanean Response
We will do more then merely condemn the Doomani.
We will do more then merely declare a complete ban on trade with the Imperium.
We will aid those who will oppose the Doomani actively, in any way, shape or form we can.
We are not puny, inbred cowards like the Clandonians. We are Allaneans. We are better. Maybe it is because their princess acts like the personal sex-toy of some Doomani noble that they behave like that. More likely though that they were always idiots.
Hereby, we are pleased to announce the Doomani Freedom Act, 2007.
The first provision of the Act is to confirm that the United States is legally at war (albeit a state of ceasefire is present) with the Doomani, and that all trade with the foul scum of the Imperium remains illegal.
The second provision is to ensure the survival of the Kahanistani Republic. As such, 100,000 Nakil 1A1 main battle tanks will be donated to the Kahanistani, and preparations will be made to donate to them other equipment.
The third provision is the most important. We will hereby offer an agreement of free trade with any nation that declares war on Doomingsland or an embargo thereof. Thereafter, all imports of goods from Generic Empire, Wagdog, Vetalia and the Hotdian nation. We hereby offer to all anti-Doomani nations to unite in a steel ring of fellowship from Port-Allanea to Kahanistani Haven, from Gholgoth to Prussia – we will both benefit from free trade and destroy the Doomani oppressor.
This is all.
May God bless Allanea and the lady Miriel nos Feanor, our beautiful queen.
P.S.
Mr. Livius, we liked your Emperor's movie. Perhaps, if The Emperor at Home and at Work II is ever filmed, we will reconsider the issue of trade – if only to enjoy more footage of Maximus doing these... wonderful things.
Official USSW Reply to Allanea
We gladly accept your offer of free trade between yourselves, ourselves and our fellows in standing against Caesar Doomanus. Among many other markets, our casinos and bookstores are open to any Allaneans seeking to visit them; or alternately would gladly open branches in Liberty City and elsewhere. We believe that what you so properly term the the 'ceasefire' state should hold, being ourselves concerned with two current and one possible military situations within our own diplomatic sphere; but equally we neither make nor seek compact with the Doomani, save that which entails their recognition and enactment of fundamental human rights within their dominion.
If this reply isn't enough on its own to bring these terms into being, we could certainly discuss the matter at a venue of mutual convenience for all our parties. Be advised that my nation will soon be involved in two key, interlinked diplomatic engagements of prior standing; but nonetheless we could accommodate a third if Hotdian, Allanean, Generian, Vetalian and other like-minded representatives would simply state their needs regarding venue and time. My capital of Tailville DR is open, and would welcome you all; but I understand many might prefer elsewhere for their own various reasons, and remain a flexible man above all.
In Solidarity and Thanks, with kindest Respects to Her Majesty,
Carolinus Horridus
Commander-in-Chief, USSW War Office
Party Secretary, Wagdoggie Revolutionary Party
General Secretary, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Hotdogs2
13-06-2007, 14:15
Official Communiqué to The Peoples Freedom
To: TPF State Department
From: Jacob Valdrich, Minister of Foreign affairs, HD2
Subject: Recent announcements
To whom it may concern,
I recently received information regarding your nation and their current actions against the Hotdian government and its people, we regret to inform you that this has only served to put you into the same boat as the Doomani, because unlike Clandonia we are not closely allied to you, nor do we plan to after your massive support of pro-Doomani forces. You should note therefore that although no action is currently being undertaken against you, other than a request to know any more information on your stance to Hotdogs2 as you have announced taking measures to the same extent as Clandonia, or if what you have previously announced will be all the action you are taking. We would like to ensure that your recent "donation" of 900billion dollars will not in anyway harm Hotdian citizens, if it does we shall ensure you are held fully responsible, we therefore urge you to be very careful of where that money goes to, we do not view terrorist organizations kindly as charity cases, but rather .
Regards,
[signed]
Jacob Valdrich
Minister of Foreign affairs, HD2
Private Communiqué to Allanea
Dear Sir/Ma'am,
We would like to initiate talks regarding free trade agreements between our nations, however Hotdogs2 does not wish to enter any binding contract which will see our nation engaged in defensive pacts outside of the SL and GDI regarding like minded nations interested in changing the Doomani nations currently tyrannical rule which has no thought for the liberties of citizens throughout the world or indeed for prisoners it has taken in war. Our aims are to instill diplomatic pressure, and as such allying ourselves with nations officially in a "state of war" with the Doomani will not aid us in this worthy cause, although we note that it is indeed a good idea to increase trading ties between our nations, as it will ensure no matter what the political views and actions of other nations our actions to better the world can carry on unimpeded, despite recent tariffs enacted against Hotdogs2 for example.
We therefore are willing to either set-up or join talks where discussion on what we should do in the near future to attempt to carry on with our diplomatic pressure against Doomingsland can be carried out safely and in complete secrecy, whilst also perhaps agreeing to a free trade agreement between the nations you have already placed as priorities in your recent act, but of course remembering that some nations, even those fighting the Doomani, should be regarded as evil themselves and Hotdogs2 will have nothing to do with those nations, as destroying one evil whilst supporting another will do more harm than good. I hope this will clear up any points before any discussions on the stance Hotdogs2 is likely to take, we do not wish to be relied upon to support all actions against Doomingsland unless they are well within reason and necessary.
Yours hopefully,
[signed]
Jacob Valdrich
Minister of Foreign affairs, HD2
Open Communiqué to The Triumvirate, Republic of Steel and Fire
Dear Sirs,
Hotdogs2 does not take kindly to your "official message" and would kindly ask you to regard this as a dismissal of your insulting words, and furthermore i would suggest you do not call our nation cowardly, whilst we ignore such comments as pointless and purely warmongering, we would like to point out several issues with your message.
Firstly, The Free Republic of Hotdogs2 has recently passed a law whereby further reductions to business regulations has taken place within Hotdogs2, we are not a socialist state and are proud of our free market economy, despite any assurances on the contrary from your nation.
Secondly, Hotdogs2 realises that most non-socialist states tend to keep business and government separated, and rightly or wrongly that is not my concern as of now. The fact is, embargoes put pressure on economies, and by pressuring their economies this then pressures their government to act, hopefully in a positive manner. Perhaps you should get some tuition on international politics.
Thirdly and lastly, Hotdogs2, as i have stated, is not cowardly, in fact it has several times mobilised parts of its military when it has acted in support of its allies, and knows full well that the Golgoth hordes should be and probably will be pushed back. However our actions would have taken place whether or not Doomingsland had been attacked, we do not fear their nation nor any other, we trust that even against overwhelming odds we can rely upon our allies within the GDI and SL as we would act to protect them we expect much the same in return. You will also note Doomingsland has not acted aggressively to these embargoes, perhaps one can hope they are making their points.
I hope this clears some issues up,
[signed]
Jacob Valdrich
Minister of Foreign affairs, HD2
OOC: Just a quit tip on the RPing Steel and Fire, with OOC comments, as you did in your post, its a good idea to put OOC: before such comments so that they don't get mixed up, and IC once any OOC has ended if its at the start of your post. Just helps ensure no misunderstandings occur, after all mixing of IC and OOC is never good.
Kahanistan
13-06-2007, 15:36
Official Statement from the Free Havenic Republic of Kahanistan
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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First off, Mr. Sistilin, the embargo against Doomingsland has nothing to do with socialism, as Allanea, a nation known to detest socialism, is participating wholeheartedly in what we hope to become a global sanction.
Secondly, resistance to the Jew-hating savages who rule Doomingsland is not terrorism. Terrorism is the use of violence against civilians to influence a nation. The resistance in the Negev targets only the Doomani military. Not one Doomani civilian has been killed by partisans in Kahanistan, and as far as we know, not one Doomani civilian is stupid enough to enter areas inhabited by partisans.
We extend our thanks to the Allanean government for its offer of 100,000 Nakil tanks, though we have a standing military of only three million and a reserve force of twelve million. We hope to expand in the near future, but the majority of the tanks will be placed in long-term storage.
Signed,
Rachel C. Levitt,
Minister of Foreign Affairs
OOC: Open?
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Ministry of Trade and Foreign Affairs
The Federal Republic of Hamilay wholeheartedly supports the declaration of Hotdogs2 in opposing the regime of Doomingsland. The atrocities of the Holy Empire must not be allowed to go unchallenged, and it is time for free nations of the world to take a stand against the expansionism of backward states such as these. Although Hamilayan trade with Doomingsland is essentially nil, the Republic supports Hotdogs2 in their trade embargo on principle.
Hamilay also notes the betrayal of Clandonia Prime, both towards the Global Defence Initiative and free nations throughout the world. Doomingsland, to our knowledge, violates every one of the six freedoms listed as paramount by the GDI's charter, save freedom of Property, and the hypocrisy of the United Kingdom in associating with a nation such as this is staggering.
As the responsibility of a free nation, the Federal Republic will follow suit with the United States of Allanea in offering support in any way to those opposing Doomani tyrrany.
signed
The President of Hamilay
The Hamilayan Minister of Trade and Foreign Affairs, R. Fletcher
Generic empire
13-06-2007, 17:42
Official Imperial Statement
The Empire stands with her Allanean brothers. We, Generia and others who oppose Doomingsland, cannot passively stand by and simply express our disgust at the wretched Doomish. We, like the Allaneans, must take an active stand. While our armies mobilize for inevitable conflict with Maximus’ hordes, the Empire will reciprocate the Allanean offer of free trade, and extend it also to the nations of Vetalia, Hotdogs2, Wagdog, The Lone Alliance, Hamilay, and Kahanistan,
Like our counterparts in Wagdog, the Empire remains open to diplomatic talks with the nations who have stated their intentions to oppose Maximus and his Empire, and furthermore we offer our capital, Sofia, as the site of any future official discussions on the situation. United, there is no limit to the fear and consternation we can instill in the Doomish state.
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encrypted transmission to the Allanean Government
As it seems your nation maintains channels with the Kahanistani partisans extensive enough to allow the transfer of large shipments of armaments and other supplies, the Empire and her clandestine services bureaus believe that it would be reasonable to contact you. As we find the Doomani occupation of the aforementioned free state detestable, and as we seek every opportunity to frustrate and weaken the hypocritical empire of Doomingsland, Generia is prepared to offer significant amounts of her own supplies and armaments to the partisans that they may inflict the maximum amount of casualties on the Doomish occupiers.
As it stands, we can provide 1 million units of the GIR-47 assault rifle, utilizing the same caliber ammunition as its Doomani counterpart, as well as enough ammunition to provide for several months fighting. Furthermore, the Empire currently maintains a stockpile of unmodified Imperator and Imperator-U tanks, as used by the Doomani army in the past few years. We can provide the partisans with 12,000 units (6000 Imperator, 6000 Imperator-U). Again, we will also provide enough fuel and ammunition for several months fighting. In addition to this, we are willing to provide significant quantities of food and medical supplies.
Should you accept the duties of transmitting these supplies to the Kahanistani partisans through your own already established channels, you will have our thanks. Should you refuse the responsibility, we will understand, though we ask that you would put us in touch with your own partisan contacts so that we might be able to move the goods into the occupied regions ourselves, and still contribute to the liberation efforts.
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encrypted transmission to the Kahanistani Government
As your recent official statement has pointed out the limits of your army’s manpower, and as we seek every opportunity to thwart the corrupt state of Doomingsland, the Empire has made preparations to raise a series of sizeable volunteer brigades to aid the partisan resistance in the occupied portions of your homeland. Any crime against an enemy of Doomingsland is of course a crime against Generia and her Emperor, and we hope that you will accept our assistance in this matter.
Red Tide2
13-06-2007, 17:44
Official Statement from TSRT Government
"The Totalitarian State will neither embargo nor favor, trade wise, either the nation of Doomingsland or Automagfreek. Trade will continue as normal with both nations, as we are completely neutral in this affair."
End Statement
Clandonia Prime
13-06-2007, 17:45
Official Statement from the Free Havenic Republic of Kahanistan
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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First off, Mr. Sistilin, the embargo against Doomingsland has nothing to do with socialism, as Allanea, a nation known to detest socialism, is participating wholeheartedly in what we hope to become a global sanction.
Secondly, resistance to the Jew-hating savages who rule Doomingsland is not terrorism. Terrorism is the use of violence against civilians to influence a nation. The resistance in the Negev targets only the Doomani military. Not one Doomani civilian has been killed by partisans in Kahanistan, and as far as we know, not one Doomani civilian is stupid enough to enter areas inhabited by partisans.
We extend our thanks to the Allanean government for its offer of 100,000 Nakil tanks, though we have a standing military of only three million and a reserve force of twelve million. We hope to expand in the near future, but the majority of the tanks will be placed in long-term storage.
Signed,
Rachel C. Levitt,
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Official Clandonian Response
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His Majesty's government would like to point out that we do not recognise the current Kahanistani government because of its support for terrorist forces in the Doomani controlled lands. The Crown government grows concern for the Kahanistani militarisation, their forces must not be allowed to build up to a projectional force because of the likely outcome that they will attack Doomani controlled territory. You should note that your territory is in easy reach for Clandonian air and naval forces.
We reiterate our point that this embargo is childish and socialist and continued support of terrorist forces by Allanea will deteriorate relations and possibly lead to economic trade being restricted. Our disgust with the GDI for their support of a terrorist cause and the membership of the UKCP in the alliance is under review. Allanea is a traitor to the Sovereign League for their support of Automagfreek and its membership of the Gholgoth puppet of NATO who's actions in British Londinium of genocide and mass rape are beyond any claimed atrocities that Doomani forces have carried out.
God Save the King
Prime Minister David Sistilin
Ministry of State
We accept the proposal for free trade between our nations and are implementing our embargo on Doomingsland as we speak. In addition, we have begun to expand our armed forces and increase their funding for future conflict; this expansion will more than cover a significant mobilization of our forces, and military surplus in storage from our last conflict will be available to any forces that require it.
Our forces are mobilizing and the weapons of economic warfare are ready to be used against the Doomani menace. Now it is the time to simply wait and see what course of action they pursue and respond accordingly.
Vontanas
13-06-2007, 18:10
Official Diplomatic Telegram
To: World
From: Imperial Republic of New Vantania
We stand beside our brothers the Clandonians and the other more righteous members of the Sovereing League completly. The Imperial Republic, based on the actions of the Hotdogians, will increase trade, from nothing at all to majour trading partners. It depresses the great Nationalist, Free, and Imperial Republic that Sovereign League members don't support a nation fighting the true evil that is Automagfreek. It disgusts us.
Steel and Fire
13-06-2007, 18:54
Open Communiqué to The Triumvirate, Republic of Steel and Fire
Dear Sirs,
Hotdogs2 does not take kindly to your "official message" and would kindly ask you to regard this as a dismissal of your insulting words, and furthermore i would suggest you do not call our nation cowardly, whilst we ignore such comments as pointless and purely warmongering, we would like to point out several issues with your message.
Firstly, The Free Republic of Hotdogs2 has recently passed a law whereby further reductions to business regulations has taken place within Hotdogs2, we are not a socialist state and are proud of our free market economy, despite any assurances on the contrary from your nation.
Secondly, Hotdogs2 realises that most non-socialist states tend to keep business and government separated, and rightly or wrongly that is not my concern as of now. The fact is, embargoes put pressure on economies, and by pressuring their economies this then pressures their government to act, hopefully in a positive manner. Perhaps you should get some tuition on international politics.
Thirdly and lastly, Hotdogs2, as i have stated, is not cowardly, in fact it has several times mobilised parts of its military when it has acted in support of its allies, and knows full well that the Golgoth hordes should be and probably will be pushed back. However our actions would have taken place whether or not Doomingsland had been attacked, we do not fear their nation nor any other, we trust that even against overwhelming odds we can rely upon our allies within the GDI and SL as we would act to protect them we expect much the same in return. You will also note Doomingsland has not acted aggressively to these embargoes, perhaps one can hope they are making their points.
I hope this clears some issues up,
[signed]
Jacob Valdrich
Minister of Foreign affairs, HD2
"Hit a nerve, have we?" Jones smiled to himself. He was the only Triumvir in the office right now; he had been the firebrand soapbox radical who'd incited the people to revolt, but it was early and he had yet to consume his coffee, so his eloquence was slightly impaired in the message he ended up sending back to Jacob Valdrich.
"Didn't answer the question, as usual. This is international politics, after all. Still, gets boring... back in the military if someone gave you a muddy answer you shot them." Jones murmured to himself, impatiently, as he typed. (He signed the message for all three of them, as was customary; doubtless other nations' messages were signed for their Foreign Minister rather than the secretarial assistant intern who had actually written the message.)
Official Response from the Triumvirate
'Warmongering'? My dear Mr. Valdrich, we are merely making a statement of fact. Doomingsland has been around for many years; it has held the same practices over those years as it does today. In fact, the invasion and occupation of the incompetent socialists of Kahanistan, which you and your fellow bleeding-hearts so heartily condemn, occurred some months ago -- even years. OOC: not sure of the timeline. x.x Yet it is only now, within the last few weeks since Automagfreek attacked Doomingsland, that those who dared not speak when the Doomingslandi military was capable of deploying raise their voices.
You ask why Doomingsland has not responded aggressively to this embargo? Simple. An embargo is a passive action; you are simply preventing your nation from trading with the nation you embargo; and in this case, the nations mounting this embargo are those who anyway would not normally trade with Doomingsland. Hence, it's barely suffering at all; and with its allies increasing trade with it to compensate, it's even benefiting from the publicity. Occurring at the time they do, your actions have far from endeared you to the Republic; the same with those of Vetalia, Wagdog, and the rest of your host of bandwagon jumpers. Ironically, we are now more likely to support Doomingsland than we were before this embargo occurred.
The Triumvirate
-- Chalabi Jones
-- Peter Aaronson
-- Bernard Rutherford
OOC: Just a quit tip on the RPing Steel and Fire, with OOC comments, as you did in your post, its a good idea to put OOC: before such comments so that they don't get mixed up, and IC once any OOC has ended if its at the start of your post. Just helps ensure no misunderstandings occur, after all mixing of IC and OOC is never good.
OOC: Will do. Thanks.
To: The Government of Hotdogs 2
From: Minister P. Sweetwater
Minister of Foreign Relations
Grand Duchy of Tarlag
The Grand Duchy of Tarlag supports your action against the Holy Empire of Doomingsland. Their Government has committed many atrocities from slavery to attacking civilian targets with weapons of mass destruction. Your Government may be unaware of the battle against this evil raging in the western Mediterranean at this moment between Doomingsland and their misguided allies and GAPTS and our Allies to free ViZion from their despotic grip. Your economic aid by your embargo should help weaken their economy and aid our war effort.
Grand Duke Ozgood is calling on all free Governments to aid us in any way necessary in defeating this world wide menace.
The Warmaster
13-06-2007, 20:49
OFFICIAL IMPERIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Ants have an extremely structured society. Ants have a clearly defined system of social rank; they wage war brutally and efficiently, they allocate resources and forage for more; they act independently of the world, each hive doing as it wills. However, it would take a fool indeed to claim that the scurryings of ants will affect the Doomani.
To follow the metaphor, all those who have joined this blockade are, in fact, no more than ants. They are infidels, without honor or faith; they cannot even claim they are acting wisely. The Imperium Doomanum has a thriving economy, their weapons are bought in every corner of the world; remarkable, then, how nations with whom it has hardly relied upon economically decide that it is morally reprehensible to trade with them. You may form whatever economic league against Caesar Maximus that you wish; but do not expect it to have much of an effect.
We would echo the statements of the Steelian Triumvirate as well; it is interesting, is it not, that the world dares to "act" against the Imperium Doomanum now, with Dreadfire's slaves on its shores? The actions of Hotdogs2, Vetalia, and the others reek of cowardice, and we would be highly interested in watching Mighty Caesar's armies cut them apart, were the Sentinels not distracting them.
So, ants, scurry about all you will; carry your shreds of leaves to whatever colonies you wish, and ignore the Doomani if you will. Simply remember that the Doomani are men, and you are but insects. And when the Sentinels flee shrieking from Doomingsland, we wonder how brave you will be.
Signed,
Darian Aurelius, Minister of Foreign Affairs
OOC: Generia, you may be not aware that I evacuated the Kahanistani froom Doomani Judaea, or at least most of those who survived. Any military donations you give will likely go to the new Kahanistani government, which I of course am backing.
Generic empire
14-06-2007, 16:21
OOC: Generia, you may be not aware that I evacuated the Kahanistani froom Doomani Judaea, or at least most of those who survived. Any military donations you give will likely go to the new Kahanistani government, which I of course am backing.
((OOC: Oh, ok. Didn't know that. The donations should still be worthwhile.))
Ministry of State
Minister Aurelius, in Vetalia there is a species of ant that lives in our forests capable of killing or hospitalizing a man with but a single bite. Curiously, it kills more than all of our spiders, snakes, wasps, and sharks combined despite its small size. You and the other braggarts assembled here might do well to realize the threat that ants pose to a person who stumbles blindly in to their territory, especially when they are distracted with the affairs of "men".
Scurrying ants pose quite a threat when their bites are laced with poison. Even the strongest...man...can fall to an inopportune bite when they least expect it.
Peruse the statement carefully, Minister Aurelius.
The Nakagishima Empire of Hataria will join in on The Embargo of Doomingland. The Empire sees The Doomani as a Nation of Evil Men ruled by Evil. We also Open up Trade to The Nation of Automagfreek to help in their war against The Doomani.
Signed: Emperor Barbarossa II of Hataria.
Official Allanean Response to Warmaster statements.
You yourself suggested that now the Doomani are at their weakest. Now, as the Doomani are being utterly decimated by the Freeks, now, that the Jarriddians are shedding buckets of Doomani blood in Vizion, now, that Allanean Girl Scouts have destroyed an entire Doomani Province – now is the time to act.
Are the Doomani some dignified warriors, that we should grant them time to lick their wounds and rearm, so they could engage with conflict with us at ‘fair terms’, that they should enhance their power, and kill more of us during the fighting?
No!
One strikes the iron when it is ho
It is now, when the Doomani Beast is weak, that we must redouble our attack.
We are making progress, too. A million rifles, as well as other weapons, have been received for our Kahanistani friends. We hope that they will use them wisely, and that this will lead to the downfall of the Doomani regime.
We would also like to donate 20,000 Nakils to our Generian friends, 50,000 to our Hotdian friends, and 30,000 to our friends in Vetalia.
We are tightening the noose, Warmasterians.
Can’t you hear Maximus panting already?
Oh, wait. That’s the soundtrack from his movie.
Hotdogs2
14-06-2007, 22:00
"Who the hell are half these Doomani supporting nations?" uttered the President.
"Fuck knows" came the reply.
To: Allanean Secret Service
From: Mr J.Alders, Minister of Defence
Subject: Nakil offer
[Encrypted]
Dear Sir/Ma'am,
We must inform you that we do not believe we can accept your offer for the Nakils, as we believe they would serve their purpose better elsewhere, and as such must decline these tanks, although we are very thankful to you for offering these tanks, and i believe such actions, along with appropriate training and other equipment for the other services, is the way to go in terms of defending your allies and fighting the forces of evil when your allies are attacked. As such we would be willing to make covert payments to the Kahanistani, although only through your channels and completely secret, such that not even the Kahanistani know and only limited Allaneans. However if monetary payments are not the best option we have Special Forces, part of our "black" ops who could train Kahanistani forces secretly for guerrilla warfare, including general maintenance of the Nakils and ground assaults etc, and would be willing to have equipment sent to the Kahanistani if possible, although again completely secret and which would take place through a covert organisation. You will understand i am sure how important secrecy is, Hotdogs2 does not wish for war, but in the defence of the innocent it will go to 'the ends of the earth'. Please ensure appropriate personnel are notified of this offer for help.
Regards,
J. Alders
Official Foreign Affairs Announcement
Hotdogs2 would like to thank all nations supporting our embargo, and invite them to join us officially in this embargo, those who rally together are stronger than the few, the crowds will bring about change! We have enemies in the world who support this evil, even amongst allies there is dissent around our actions, but we must rally together against the evil we find all around us.
To Hamilay Hotdogs2 send our many thanks, they are doing more to support us than we could have asked them, as have our allies in Allanea. We must draw this alliance together closely, as i invite the other nations who are supporting the allied nations in their fight against the Axis of Evil who are those so closely linked and like minded to the Doomani leadership. To those nations who have sent us support in private we also thank, band together i say in this war of words, let our diplomacy shine brightly in this world as a guide to good and all that is good.
However, Hotdogs2 feels that there is a negative and possibly dangerous undercurrent to these diplomatic messages from not only Doomani supporters but also those who are forces for good in this world. Before all Diplomatic options are exhausted i call on all nations to hold their peace, and not be pulled into an armaments race which will see to rising tensions, contrary to the aims of our embargo, which is to use peaceful means to attempt change in Doomingsland, rather than aggressive acts which are temptation for and ultimately lead to war, a fact which one must consider closely before acting in ways which are insulting and demeaning.
May peace find liberty.
Jacob Valdrich, Foreign Affairs Minister for Hotdogs2
Infinitus Libertas et Pacis
Private Communiqué to Pro-embargo nations
As you have seen, there has been growing pressure against our efforts to extend liberty to the Doomani. Fortunately, this pressure has only strengthened our purpose, and so call all nations to attend a conference, as yet unorganised. We would like to see greater co-operation between our nations, to formulate strengthened ties in trading and to sow the seeds for our like minded nations to support each other, in whatever way they see fit in the future. Sofia in Generic Empire has been offered for such a conference out of the kindness of that nation, and we see no reason to not accept this location if it suits all our needs. We would like to note that this conference, which we hope will occur, must only be for peaceful relations against Doomingsland, as we do not believe war will see the end to civil rights abuses.
Also take into account that nations involved will have varying views on other nations, in particular the Golgoth nations and whether or not to support them against Doomingsland. For this reason also the conference should see only the extension of friendship, and better trade between our nations rather than binding treaties which could see the exclusion of nations working against the dictatorship within Doomingsland.
Infinitus Libertas et Pacis
From the Hotdian cabinet
OOC: Sorry about slow posting, been busy recently but should be able to get proper replies for any new posts, so you get a proper reply. Hope no-one minds.
"Who the hell are half these Doomani supporting nations?" uttered the President.
"Fuck knows" came the reply.
To: Allanean Secret Service
From: Mr J.Alders, Minister of Defence
Subject: Nakil offer
[Encrypted]
Dear Sir/Ma'am,
We must inform you that we do not believe we can accept your offer for the Nakils, as we believe they would serve their purpose better elsewhere, and as such must decline these tanks, although we are very thankful to you for offering these tanks, and i believe such actions, along with appropriate training and other equipment for the other services, is the way to go in terms of defending your allies and fighting the forces of evil when your allies are attacked. As such we would be willing to make covert payments to the Kahanistani, although only through your channels and completely secret, such that not even the Kahanistani know and only limited Allaneans. However if monetary payments are not the best option we have Special Forces, part of our "black" ops who could train Kahanistani forces secretly for guerrilla warfare, including general maintenance of the Nakils and ground assaults etc, and would be willing to have equipment sent to the Kahanistani if possible, although again completely secret and which would take place through a covert organisation. You will understand i am sure how important secrecy is, Hotdogs2 does not wish for war, but in the defence of the innocent it will go to 'the ends of the earth'. Please ensure appropriate personnel are notified of this offer for help.
Regards,
J. Alders
Official Foreign Affairs Announcement
Hotdogs2 would like to thank all nations supporting our embargo, and invite them to join us officially in this embargo, those who rally together are stronger than the few, the crowds will bring about change! We have enemies in the world who support this evil, even amongst allies there is dissent around our actions, but we must rally together against the evil we find all around us.
To Hamilay Hotdogs2 send our many thanks, they are doing more to support us than we could have asked them, as have our allies in Allanea. We must draw this alliance together closely, as i invite the other nations who are supporting the allied nations in their fight against the Axis of Evil who are those so closely linked and like minded to the Doomani leadership. To those nations who have sent us support in private we also thank, band together i say in this war of words, let our diplomacy shine brightly in this world as a guide to good and all that is good.
However, Hotdogs2 feels that there is a negative and possibly dangerous undercurrent to these diplomatic messages from not only Doomani supporters but also those who are forces for good in this world. Before all Diplomatic options are exhausted i call on all nations to hold their peace, and not be pulled into an armaments race which will see to rising tensions, contrary to the aims of our embargo, which is to use peaceful means to attempt change in Doomingsland, rather than aggressive acts which are temptation for and ultimately lead to war, a fact which one must consider closely before acting in ways which are insulting and demeaning.
May peace find liberty.
Jacob Valdrich, Foreign Affairs Minister for Hotdogs2
Infinitus Libertas et Pacis
Private Communiqué to Pro-embargo nations
As you have seen, there has been growing pressure against our efforts to extend liberty to the Doomani. Fortunately, this pressure has only strengthened our purpose, and so call all nations to attend a conference, as yet unorganised. We would like to see greater co-operation between our nations, to formulate strengthened ties in trading and to sow the seeds for our like minded nations to support each other, in whatever way they see fit in the future. Sofia in Generic Empire has been offered for such a conference out of the kindness of that nation, and we see no reason to not accept this location if it suits all our needs. We would like to note that this conference, which we hope will occur, must only be for peaceful relations against Doomingsland, as we do not believe war will see the end to civil rights abuses.
Also take into account that nations involved will have varying views on other nations, in particular the Golgoth nations and whether or not to support them against Doomingsland. For this reason also the conference should see only the extension of friendship, and better trade between our nations rather than binding treaties which could see the exclusion of nations working against the dictatorship within Doomingsland.
Infinitus Libertas et Pacis
From the Hotdian cabinet
OOC: Sorry about slow posting, been busy recently but should be able to get proper replies for any new posts, so you get a proper reply. Hope no-one minds.
SIC
ENCRYPTED MESSAGE TO THE HOTDIAN CABINET, GENERIAN GOVERNMENT
We agree that the proposed conference in Sofia should be dedicated to coordinating the peaceful opposition efforts against the Doomani, and thank our Generian friends for offering this in so timely a manner. We shall send our Commerce Secretary Celine Longtail to attend, with a small diplomatic entourage from the State Department along with her own immediate staff to advise regarding purely diplomatic matters; and await only notification of its opening for us to attend. Free trade, better relations, and suchlike measures should be the foci of this conference; and we shall give this effort all due attention. The situation remains grim, as we're doubtless sure all know; but we remain committed to the path of peaceful opposition so long as such is possible, as are you. We are with you, and shall remain so come what may.
-From the USSW Revolutionary Command Council-
Generic empire
15-06-2007, 03:11
((OOC: Conference thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12771366#post12771366 ))
The Warmaster
15-06-2007, 03:43
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
To: the Vetalian Ministry of State
We all have different wonders in our lands, Vetalians...however, it wearies us to see such empty commentary. You can distend the metaphor however you like, heathens; perhaps to you, Vetalia is a gigantic ant that eats human flesh. Or the ants will climb onto the humans and tear tiny bits of flesh off until they are stripped to the bone; whatever you like. But consider the true meaning of our words: that you did not dare engage the Doomani before, and you will not now. All of us know it. So, go ahead and make whatever connections in the biology of ants that you will. Simply remember how bored it makes us.
Signed,
Darian Aurelius, Minister of Foreign Affairs
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To: Allanean Department of Foreign Affairs (OOC: I don't really know who/what to address this to...)
You amuse us, infidels. Or you would, were your words not saturated with the filth of cowardice. As we told the Vetalians, it is a mark of your fear that even now you reach out tentatively to join this blockade. After all these 'offenses' by the Doomani, after all your failures against them, after their victories over every foe who has risen against them, now you decide to fight back; and not with weaponry, oh no, not even with Dreadfire's servants on the beaches of terra Doomana. Rather, you think that by cutting off trade you will force the Doomani to their knees. Carry on, then; we are sure you have great expectations for this...and that truly does amuse us.
And as for the Custodes being 'utterly decimated' by the Sentinels, I personally suggest you watch the news.
Signed,
Darian Aurelius, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Allanean Response
We have reached out against the Doomani. True.
Now, Province Aegypt lies in ruins, and piranha and candiru feast upon it's inhabitants.
We have reached out against the Doomani. True.
Now, the Kahanistani territority has increased in size, and despite it bordering the Doomani, they fear to charge into it - for they know what will happen should they fight us again.
We burned Jerusalem, we leveled Cairo and Aswan and Luxor.
Our flag waved from the Kahanistani Negev, from the shores of the Nile.
Time and time again we have defeated the Doomani foe in battle. Should battle come we shall crush them again.
Ministry of State
Such skill with words is most admirable, Minister Aurelius. Were you a Vetalian, you would undoubtedly have a high position in society and command the respect of our leaders in government and industry. Perhaps in less hostile times there would be room for an accord or even friendship between our nations, but for now we must go our separate ways in the face of this conflict.
Should the time come, we will not back down in supporting our allies against the Doomani. We shall see whether our metaphor is appropriate or if it is nothing more than a hollow threat.
Regards,
Valerian Kosyachenko, Proconsul, Ministry of State
Hotdogs2
15-06-2007, 15:04
To: USSW Revolutionary Command Council, Generic empire
From: Jacob Valdrich, Minister of Foreign Affairs
Subject: Conference of Sofia
Thank you supporting our statement, we agree wholeheartedly over the issue that has arisen over Doomingsland, and look forward to the conference. To the Government of Generic empire we gladly accept your offer to host these trade talks, and hope they will go well, as are glad to see Wagdog preparing the way on these talks as you receive this message. As nations of one heart in our fight against the Doomani oppression i hope we can come together on good terms and leave on yet better friendship, with an extension to trading between our nations. We must make it clear now that we hope, like Wagdog, that the conference calls only for peaceful actions against Doomingsland, although we are quite understanding and in fact would like to see, outside relations which can grow to mutual-self defence against the Doomani and as such we shall be acting to help everyone with their relations.
Good luck to you in these talks, Amalia Polansky and her aides look forward to the discussions.
Yours Sincerly,
Jacob Valdrich, Foreign Affairs Minister for Hotdogs2
Infinitus Libertas et Pacis
Questers
15-06-2007, 17:14
IMPERIAL ECONOMICS
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Key Questarian banks have been investing money by the bucketload into the Doomani economy
Key Questarian banks such as the Kure Securities Firm, Imperial Banking Conglomerate, Keyes' Financing, and Questarian Accountants have invested over three trillion into the Doomani economy, says a new report.
These four banking firms, all with large investment branches, have pumped at least three and a half trillion pounds of money into the Doomani economy, primarily in large industries like weapons manufacture and development and others like oil and steel. Already the profits are rolling in as the Doomani war machine clashes with Automagfreek. This is only part of the rapid increase in trade and economic assosciation with the Doomani economy. Shipping companies especially have increased the amount of travel to Doomingsland and Questarian companies are cooperating and competing with Doomingsland - all in all, trade is on the increase.
Keyes' Financing yesterday invested 50 billion in securities and loans to the Doomani defence industry and the Kure Securities Firm has been managing the takeover of several small coal producing companies in Doomingsland. Doomani investments however, are not as active, but still exist - twelve Questarian businesses over the last month have been bought out by Doomani investors and over a hundred and twenty have more than doubled their trade towards Doomingsland. Considering Questers was at war with Doomingsland only five years ago, this is a somewhat interesting development. We talked to John Richfield, owner of a small import/export company as to why this might be.
Q: Mister Richfield, I understand your business has made several transactions with Doomani counterparts over recent months?
A: Thats correct.
Q: Why is this?
A: Because we see something to gain, heh. The Doomani chemical industry, whom we've been dealing with, is considerably more advanced than ours. We procured shipments of agricultural chemicals that we're going to sell to several local farms around these parts.
Q: I see. But why Doomingsland? Why not any of the other states that have opened their arms to our trade?
A: Well, because Doomingsland is a solid investment. As you know many comapnies have seen it fit to do business with the Doomanis, and we see no reason not to - there's no tarrifs in Questers, as you know, so we're free to do business with whom we like, and right now I think many people see Doomingsland as an ally of ours, against the imperialists of NATO of course.
Q: So you think Doomingsland is a more secure partner for trade than other states?
A: Not neccessarily all states - but our trading lines are open to Doomingsland more so than Praetonia. Of course, the Commonwealth states nearby us are excellent partners in trade, but there's somethings the Doomani do better, and right now I don't think many shipping companies this side of Haven are keen on seeing their ships go through the Haven straits, especially in concern to Scandavian States, a NATO member. I've heard from my friends in Aralonia and Ceylon that they rather trade with Praetonia, but this side of Haven we prefer to send our shipping east, not west.
Q: I see. What do you think of the embargo on Doomingsland many nations have agreed to sign?
A: Absolutely ridiculous. Clearly these people have no idea of free trade or enterprise. We're making a killing here from trade with Doomingsland, and its not just big trading businesses and banks - the middle man like me, and the farmers are making more money too.
Q: Thanks for your time.
A: No problem.
Over three thousand automobiles flow between Questers and Doomingsland per month. But its not just electronics, cars, guns and oil that Questers and Doomingsland trade. Furniture from the finest producers in Questers has picked up interest in Doomingsland, for those who can afford it finely crafted furniture has become popular. The textile industry too has seen a boom in recent months in trade towards Doomingsland who's economy is now focusing towards the war in Automagfreek. Uniforms and boots for the gigantic Doomani army are being produced in the millions in Questarian mills. Other industries like plastics too are seeing a boost in consumption.
Another factor in this trade is oil. Questers uses 58.0600 million barrels of oil a day and pver 78% (45.2868 million barrels) of Questaria's oil, crude or refined, aircraft or maritime, is provided by the Khailfah Al Muslimeen's oil tycoons, but now it looks as if the Doomani are trying to wedge their way into the market. Two key Doomani oil companies are muscling their way into the Questarian oil market and moving the competition aside, increasing their share in the market to 6% (3.4836 million barrels), providing tough competition for the KLM oil companies.
Order XB-456-E of the Field Marshal of Allanea
Authorized by the Secretary of Defense, Eric Foreman, President Elisabeth Cuddy, and the Congress of the United States of Allanea, I, Alexander Kazansky, Field Marshal of the Republic, Sword of the Queen, and Count de Centreville, hereby authorize the increase of Her Majesty’s Ground Forces by 40,000 personnel, to be classified and deployed as Fort Maintenance Personnel and deployed on the Kahanistani-Doomani border.
As part of Operational Order XB-456-E, the first 100 kilometers of Kahanistani territory will be hereby heavily fortified as below.
Stage One Fortifications
The first five kilometers of border space, and the bunkers seized from the Doomani during Operation Kahanistani Freedom, will hereby be known as Stage One Fortifications. The bunkers will be manned by 7,500 personnel, and will be equipped by 700 Tagus ATGM launchers, 300 155mm automatic single-barrel cannon, 100 MRLS systems, as well as various machineguns and light autocannon. The function of these bunkers will be to provide first-warning defense against possible Doomani incursion.
Three anti-tank ditches shall be made across the Stage One security zone, and standard anti-tank obstacles shall be spread throughout the area – specifically concentrating on installation of ‘polish hedgehog’ and ‘pyramid’ type anti-tank obstacles at the direct approaches to bunkers, and on strategic approach directions.
Additionally, 10,000 anti-helicopter landmines, 500,000 ATG-44 anti-tank landmines, 10,000,000 PFM-1 anti-personnel landmines, and 20,000 Firefox off-road landmines shall be installed at Stage One, as well as five thousand kilometers of simple barbed-wire obstacles.
Stage Two Fortifications
The next ten kilometers after that shall be equipped with heavier equipment and a greater amount of bunkers of the Finnish type (i.e. concealed from aerial detection and covered with sand or sand-colored infra-red concealing camouflage, preferably of Allanean production).
These are to house:
100 16-inch cannon
2,000 120mm cannon
1,000 155mm autocannon
1,000 MRLS launchers
10,000 anti-tank rocket launchers
250 SCAR missile launchers.
This stage of defenses is also to contain the following:
5 anti-tank ditches, fields of anti-tank obstacles, 25,000 kilometers of barbed wire obstacles, 1,000,000 anti-tank ATG-44 landmines, 10,000,000 PFM-1 anti-personnel landmines, 100,000 Mark II Anti-Helicopter Landmines.
Stage Three and Stage Four Fortifications
These stages are to be similar to Stage Two, but will retain the following equipment rather then Stage Two Armament (total numbers quoted):
300 16-inch cannon
5,000 120mm cannon
4,000 155mm autocannon
4,000 MRLS launchers
15,000 anti-tank rocket launchers
1,000 SCAR missile launchers.
Stage Five Defenses
On the last stage of static defense, the 40 mechanized infantry divisions already housed in Kahanistani territory are to retain their ordinary static positions in a four-layer defense subsystem, further augmented by the artillery complement of the requisite armor divisions. These are to be protected by a single anti-tank ditch, anti-tank obstacles and 1,500,000 anti-tank landmines.
As such, at this level, the following vehicles and artillery units will be deployed:
2400x Arca. II Ashurbanipal Light Tanks
12000x IFVs
6500x KriGud Self Propelled Artillery Gun
3250x Praetorian II Mobile SAMs
400x 150mm Panzerwerfer M-2000 MRLS
800x Munich Mobile Anti-tank Vehicle
2500x Oriontus 120mm Mobile Gun Systems
1000x YU.13 Gargantel Self-Propelled Howitzer
750x G6 Self-propelled 120mm Mortar
Further, this is to be augmented by 500 Regisnar launchers, and their crews, and 1,000 16-inch cannon.
Additional support is to be rendered by Allanean aircraft operating from Kahanistani bases, should the Kahanistani government permit. A copy of this defense plan is to be sent to President Cuddy and President Levitt, for their approval. The government of the Menelmacari Empire, and the C’tan, are to be kept unaware of our negotiations of this plan with the Kahanistani as much as it is humanly possible.
This is all.
May God Bless the Queen.
Alexander Kazansky,
Field Marshal of the Republic,
Sword of the Queen,
and Count de Centreville