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Being as every other tank we have made so far are medium tanks we decided to make a Main Battle Tank. So now we are proud to present the Jaguar.

Designer: Jack Gabofe
Type: Main Battle Tank
Weight: 83.5 metric tons
Length: 7.1 m
Width: 3.5 m(4.3 with applique armour)
Height: 2.3 m
Crew: 3
Armour: Steel, Chobham
Primary Armament: 125mm smoothbore
Secondary Armament:
coaxial 7.62 mm L94A1 EX-34 (chain gun)
2x M240 7.62 mm machine guns (1 pintle, 1 coaxial)
Engine:
AGT-1500 multi-fuel turbine engine, Honeywell LV100-5 turbine engine 1500 hp (1119 KW)
Power/weight: 18.7 hp/tonne
Transmission: Allison DDAX-1100 3B transmission
Suspension: torsion bar
Operational Range: 465.29 km (289 miles)
Speed:
Road: 67.72 km/h (42 mph)
Off-Road: 48.3 km/h (30 mph)
Pictures: company of Jaguars, (http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/challenger22.jpg) head on shot, (http://www.dr.mod.uk/images/cr2_head-on.jpg) side shot, (http://gunpoint-3d.com/images/circ/Chall2.000.gif) real Jaguar. (http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NYG/76001~Jaguar-Portrait-Posters.jpg)
Price: 5 million per

Info

Armament:
Typical of the modern day main battle tank, the Jaguar can hit targets in a variety of conditions. It can engage stationary or moving targets; it can attack opponents wether or not it is on the move; finally it can engage targets day and night with the thermal imager and laser rangefinder.

Crew and Tank Protection:
The Jaguar is fitted with Chobham armour and Steel armour as well as reactive armour if needed. Fuel and ammunition are in armored compartments with blowout panels to protect the crew from it's own ammo if it is hit. They are also fitted with depleted uranium mesh in their armor at the front of the turret and the front hull. Armor reinforcedlike this offers sicnificantly increased resistence towards all types of anti-tank weaponry. Also important to the tanks defense are two laterally-mounted grenade launchers. Each launcher is electronically-fired, and consists of four barrels which can be intermixed with either smoke or chaff grenades. The smoke grenades are capable of shrouding the tank from visual or thermal view. It also provides War Kit And PKO Kit it will be able to reinforce the Front armor and the side Armor with an optional package. Finally, the crew cabin is protected by an elaborate anti-NBC system designed by Harold Jusikl. It is capable of protecting the crew for a period of time from any modern nuclear, radiological, biological, or chemical attack.

Drive System:
Engine:
Gearbox: David Brown TN54 epicyclical transmission (6 fwd, 2 rev)
Suspension: Second-generation Hydrogas
Track:William Cook Defence Hydraulically Adjustable double-pin

Crew Accomodation:
Like the TM-3 the Jaguar contains a boiler for water which can be used to brew tea, produce other hot beverages and heat 'boil-in-a-bag' meals contained in ration packs.Think about it, killing some guy while sipping tea.

Mechanics:
After finding out that a 125 smoothbore has more fire power than an 155 smoothbore it was replaced making yet another great structure of the Jaguar.

Thank yous:
Thank you Lyras, Hot Dogs2, and Chevy13 for pushing me along with all of thier criticism, and thank you to the creators of the Ariete, Challenger 2, A1 Abrams, and the T-84 Oplot.

Sold to:
Lord Sumguy 20,000 Jaguar tanks
South Lizasuaria 10,000 Jaguar tanks
Greal 1,000 Jaguar tanks
Nuksz 500 Jaguar tanks
Rido 500 Jaguar tanks
Oily-Prata 25,000 Jaguar Tanks
South Fhrenmar 500 Jaguar Tanks
Kasurtas and Minderan 15 Jaguar Tanks

The Hegemony wishes to order 20,000 of these vehicles.

WOW! You like it that much? Thank you your order will be accepted after I get some critics.

Lord Sumguy wishes to order 20,000 of these vehicles.

$100,000,000,000? 20,000 tanks?

You just spent your entire military budget. Your men will go unfed, ships and aircraft unmaintained...et cetera, et cetera.

You'll have to rethink your purchase, as that just doesn't cut it with a budget of $110 billion.

Source: http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php?nation=Lord+Sumguy

$100,000,000,000? 20,000 tanks?

You just spent your entire military budget. Your men will go unfed, ships and aircraft unmaintained...et cetera, et cetera.

You'll have to rethink your purchase, as that just doesn't cut it with a budget of $110 billion.

Source: http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php?nation=Lord+Sumguy

OOC:What do you think of it and is it over priced?

OOC: It's a hell of gun, and, not that I know much about tanks, it seems to be around the right price for something that calibre. It looks like it'd punch a hole through most things, at least. That said, it'd be better that someone in the know give the critique :p

OOC: by your expeirience I'd think you were in the know but thank you any way.

OOC: Given the weight and size of the main gun, this would probably be more towards a "heavy tank" rather than a main battle tank. Most NS design MBTs aren't drastically larger than RL equivalents; generally between 60 to 80 tons with a main gun size of 100 to 140mm. Basically, your previous medium tank would really be considered an MBT. That's really just a name thing, not a big deal.

The only other thing that jumps out at me is your propulsion; in order to have a power/weight ratio of 24.5 hp/tonne you'd need to have an engine making about 2,600 horsepower. With the current engine, your power/weight ratio is about 14.0 hp/tonne. It may also be a bit fast for a tank of this size, but I'm not really that certain on speed though.

The rest of it looks fairly reasonable.

OOC: by your expeirience I'd think you were in the know but thank you any way.

Nah, I'm just getting better at spotting when someone mutilates their defence budget.

That said, I'm about to spend around $2.5 Trillion on a completely new navy from HDI... and I've a defense budget of 4.something... but there you go.

OOC:that would make sense because I just mixed a bunch of RL tanks together so if the power/weight ration don't match it's because it's from another tank then the weapon

OOC: Looks reasonable, but there's a slight problem with the dimensions, IMO. Your tank's a good deal smaller than an Abrams, but it's massing close to twice as much. You probably want to increase the size a bit.

OOC: Looks reasonable, but there's a slight problem with the dimensions, IMO. Your tank's a good deal smaller than an Abrams, but it's massing close to twice as much. You probably want to increase the size a bit.

OOC: Not too mention that with that large of a gun you're gonna need a much larger turret. Otherwise, it's good.

$100,000,000,000? 20,000 tanks?

You just spent your entire military budget. Your men will go unfed, ships and aircraft unmaintained...et cetera, et cetera.

You'll have to rethink your purchase, as that just doesn't cut it with a budget of $110 billion.

Source: http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php?nation=Lord+Sumguy

oops, i meant the Hegemony, not me personally.

If you toned the gun size down to 125mm and made it a ETC gun, you could get more firepower then you could with a 155mm gun.

EDIT: I think it will also save you some weight... but I am not positive on that.

oops, i meant the Hegemony, not me personally.

That order is for the protection of the Hegemony? If so it is for free because of my position in the Hegemony

That order is for the protection of the Hegemony? If so it is for free because of my position in the Hegemony

such a donation would destroy your economy. i demand paying at least 75% of the original price.

such a donation would destroy your economy. i demand paying at least 75% of the original price.

As owner amd creator of the Jaguar we get 50% off all costs, but as you said it still won't be good for my econemy so pay 25% and the Hegemony will pay the rest over a 2 month RL period.

As owner amd creator of the Jaguar we get 50% off all costs, but as you said it still won't be good for my econemy so pay 25% and the Hegemony will pay the rest over a 2 month RL period.

agreed.

That is accepted, and just think of the donation as what I have prepared for Polemarch.

IC:

The South Lizasaurian military is interested in purchasing 10,000. If it is beyond out price range we'd like to lower the quantitiy of tanks to 5000.

South Lizasaurian Defense Minister

Nice tank, I wish to order 1000 of these tanks.

South Lizasauria
Your request is accepted 10,000 Jaguars will be 50 billion while 5,000 of them would be 25 billion and your economy in defence is stong enough for 10,000 Jaguars.

Greal
Your request is accepted 1,000 Jaguars for 5 billion.

OOC: Tanks really really wide. Most RL tanks don't go over 3.8m width with skirts because of road width restrictions. And on NS you don't find many going much wider then that even when they throw those restrictions out.
Your power to weight ratio is off. Right now you're getting around 18hp/tonne.
It's also very tall.
And this is all assuming you're using meters for dimensions. Otherwise, if it's feet, then this tank is really really small. You should specify which measurment system.

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Still selling

We would like to buy 500 of these vehichles

Your request is accepted

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Greston

Tensions are rising within the Storn Archipelago. Varessan peacekeeping missions overseas have stretched their military, and our hard-fought autonomy is being disputed again. If we are seen as weak, then the Republic of Fehnmar will attempt to re-assert control over us, and, if that happens, Lyras will use the violence as an excuse to invade not only us in South Fehnmar, but the Republic of Fehnmar as well.

To that end, we need to defend ourselves, and your vehicle appears to be the most cost effective means of competent defence.

But we are not a military society. We are no experts in the field of tank design.

So we ask you, will a Jaguar stand up to a Lyran Warhound-class tank?

Regards
South Fehnmar

I am colnel craig and i represent the Oily Prata Defence Forces. Our recent rebellion and subsequent overthrowing of our previous tryanicall dictator has left us in a dangerously weak defensive posture. thus, we would like to place an order for 25000 jaguars for a total cost of $125000000000. Rest assured that we will be able to afford it as we have a military budget of around $235,102,411,044.

We await your reply

signed

Colnel Craig
Oily prata defence force

No, not alone, you would need at least 14 soldiers to follow or you can have 3 Jaguars against one attack and then you have a win, but the War Hound will kill 1 Jaguar. But you should buy some for the sake of his ground soldiers, and they will be for free and you won't have to pay until the conflict is over. But the Republic of Greston will aid you, and fight if nessecary.

And Oily Prata your offer is accepted, you will recieve you order in 3-4 NS monthes.

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Greston

To be frank, I didn't expect that anything in our price range would be able to go toe-to-toe with the firepower that is likely to be coming our way.

But we thank you for your offer, and accept gladly.

To that end, we formally request that you transfer to us 500 Jaguars (the tank variety, not the animal sort) at a cost of 2.5 bn (deferred).

I'm not sure you'll want to jump on, though... It is likely to get messy.

Regards and thanks
South Fehnmar

My nation is not too good with a sheet of paper with a lump of info on it, so I request a trial run before we make a full purchase.
What will your price be to hire 15 Jaguars over a period of two months?
Kasurtas and Minderan anxiously awaits your reply.


REH!:D

Accepted to Kasurtas and Minderan and South Fehnmar.

We would like to buy 1,000 for 5 billion. Thank you.