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GEM aerospace FA 16 Advanced Tactical Strike Fighter

The Candrian Empire
10-06-2007, 05:11
a few days late, but here it is.

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History

The Light Combat Fighter program was initiated with the expected retirement of the FA 11 Deacon. The Cardinal could effectively replace the Deacon in some roles; notably, as an effective heavy strike fighter; however, it is too large and unwieldy as a lightweight, carrier ready aircraft. Being one of the heaviest fighters in the sky, it wasn't exactly carrier-friendly, a point raised by GEM's export customers. The ICA's air arm wanted a lightweight fighter capable of deployment from it's recently aquired command battleships, necitating an aircraft at least capable of verticle landing; they also wanted something at least somewhat stealthy, and able to support landing infantry. The CAF and SPARTA wanted fighters able to sneak into enemy territory, loiter near targets, and provide extreme close air support, similar in the vein of the Deacon. All three branches wanted the aircraft to be able to defend itself effectively in the event of a dogfight within contested airspace; even if they were going to be backed up by the Cardinal Calvary. With the three branches calling for aircraft filling similar roles, the Military Consulate decided to combine their programs into one all-encompassing request - the Light Combat Fighter. All of a sudden, things seemed very reminiscent of the US Joint Strike Fighter program.

Of the 3 companies who were delivered notices of inquiry, only GEM responded with a solid design before the Phase I deadline. The aircraft was a single engined stealth aircraft with a canard-delta-V planform, with vertical lift provided by direct down thrust vectoring and a modified lift fan system derived from the Rolls Royce Lift Fan employed on the F 35B.

The aircraft, essentially the only entry, quickly won over the Military Consulate.

Following the success of the FA 15 and its derivatives, GEM prompted the Consulate for permission to export the Priest - considering it was intended to supplement the Cardinal, and vice-versa, and much of the impetus for the design came from external pressure.

Design and Mission

The FA 16 is a heavily-reduced RCS STOVL tactical combat support aircraft, intended to support infantry in close air operations and to provide the fleet with a suitable air arm. The aircraft provides generous lift at low speeds, with the ability to strike quickly and get out fast. The ability to hover and land vertically allows the aircraft to operate out of the ICA's non-carrier fleet, while it's overall small size makes it a much more forgiving carrier borne aircraft.

Airframe

The general planform of the Priest is a dogtoothed cropped delta, featuring rear ruddervators and retractable forward canards fixed on a wide lifting body design. Further enhancing control is the all-aspect thrust vectoring system, featuring four articulating plates. Flaps forward of the nozzle allow thrust to safely flow foward of the aircraft, allowing both thrust vectoring and, with the retractable top intake ramps deployed, reverse flight. Top speeds in the upper Mach 2 region are more than achievable, giving the FA 16 an ability to go low, hit a ground target, and quickly escape, potentially without even being tracked & targeted.

The aircraft is primarily constructed from lightweight alloys; structurally, the Priest is a semi monocoque stressed skin design, with the 29 lithium-alumninum formers and longerons fused together via electron welding. The wing structure is also formed of electron-welded LiAl ribs and longerons, with the further foldable section interfacing with the hydraulics pumping to facilitate the use of the sectioned ailerons. The wingbox, landing gear, engine fairing, and cockpit frames are fashioned from cast SOCADI steel, providing further increased strength. Two articulating plates in each intake provide for variable geometry, increasing the top speed well above Mach 2 at altitude. The underlying stressed skin is made primarily of LiAl-based alloy covered in polyketon bonded carbon fiber with a titanium boride coating laid on via vapor deposition; this skin is spotwelded on to the frame. Forward panels are composed primarily of LiAl-based alloy, while panels progressively to the rear of the aircraft are typically resin bonded carbon fiber reinforced polyvinyl.

The use of the composite skin with the dielectric ceramic coating allow partial radar absorption, acting as a radar-absorbant material. Combined with the general shaping, the bare airframe radar cross section is significantly reduced over comparable non-stealth designs. The two intake ducts are S shaped, and, with the VGI plates folded flat to prevent corner reflection, reduce the radar return from the compressor and fan face of the aircraft significantly. The thin-spacing plate thrust vectoring system also provides significant reduction of cross section from the rear, hiding the rear stage turbines and The aircraft was designed with all-aspect stealth in mind, and as a result features a relatively flat bottom. All non-engine intakes were designed with the concept of reentrant triangles in mind; as a result, the cooling inlets of the cannon have a distinctive shape to them. In places where a high radar return is expected (Canopy door, all major hatches, wingtips, inlet plates, etc) ferritic-polymer RAM paint is applied.
To limit return from the canopy, a layer of vapor-deposited gold is layed inside the top layer of the canopy, regulating the radar return. This also gives the Priest a distinctive gold-hued canopy; a rather elegant feature.

The aircraft was primarily designed as a naval strike fighter capable of overland missions, and as such ships with thick landing gear. The skin has a natural measure of corrosion resistance, reducing the need for any special measures to ensure navalization; this also means little has to be done if the aircraft wereto require tropicalization. To reduce space, the wings fold just before the second slat, going over the airframe, while the ruddervators can be either lowered flat or raised to nearly verticle for storage. The forward radome can be straight pulled off, and a cage placed over the GFVm-aero radar to protect it from external conditions.

Powerplant

The a909LB VBT CC low-bypass turbofan engine is a hybrid compression engine from the a9XX family, a family known to be strong, relatively efficient, and for the most part, reliable. The compressor layout is 1F/2LP/6HP/CC. Each stage rides on it's own shaft. The shaft design is a hollow and ventilated to allow air to cool the semihollow turbines, providing an active cooling measure. The turbine stages make extensive use of zalium, halfnium-diboride alloys, and nickle aluminide coatings to allow for higher temperatures.

For all the thrust they provide (with a thrust/weight ratio of 9.41), the engines are relatively less fuel hungry than the larger models used on the larger FA 15 Cardinal series; however, even this engine family can cause significant airframe damage if used improperly. Prolonged maneuvers at maximum thrust and burner can significantly warp the aircraft body, and as such the frame must be checked for warp, cracks, microfissures, and other signs of wear that may be unnoticable to unaided observation. Front line fighters with extensive combat records should be overhauled at least every 15 years to maintain their effectiveness; GEM provides this service at no cost.

Mounted forward of the engine is a lift fan system derived from the Rolls Royce Lift Fan system employed in the F35; however, in the system employed by the Priest, the fans are roughly a half meter larger, providing more overall lift. Instead of a 3 bearing swivel, a ceramic-coated deflection plate is closed before the thrust vectoring nozzles while an underside nozzle roughly approximate to an aerospike nozzle in general configuration opens, pointing thrust down in a manner similar to clamshell-type thrust reversers. The two telescoping roll posts fed from the low-pressure Stage 3 air are deployed from ports above the landing gear doors.

Armament

Preservation of stealth is key; as such the Priest has two internal bays accepting munitions up to 500 kg in weight, and a single 1000 kg bay located under the fan driveshaft. More smaller munitions can be used with rotary drums fitted into the bays; with a maximum of 8 mounts for the 1000 kg bay - the stores managment suite must be refreshed and updated accordingly to account for these munitions. Internally, the Priest can hold some 2000 kg of munitions; including smart bombs of all sorts; be they laser, GPS, TV, or radar guided; as well as effectively any proximity AtA (air to air) missle and some smaller BVR missle payloads.

Removable pylons on the wings can support effectively any munition within their weight limit with little modification; including multiple lock racks. Specifically, two wingtip pylons capable of carrying 200 kg AtA missles are suspended just inside the wingspan; two 500 kg pylons can be mounted on the further folding wing sections, while closer inboard, four 1000 kg pylons can be mounted - two wet for accepting fuel tanks. These two wet pylons are mounted closer to the centerline of the aircraft.

The Mettel DBG30/190 CETC Gast cannon features two boron carbide barrels coated with nickle aluminide; these barrels are very resistant to warp and corrosion. A simple robust gas-powered Gast mechanism with spring dampeners, a thick chamber and rather thick hammers means that the weapon is likely to outlast the aircraft. To save weight and space, the rounds are combusting case capacitated ETC shells; that is, their baseplate features several capacitor wafers that, when struck by the firing pin, complete a circuit, sending a charge through the circuit wires and through the matrix running throught the propellent; in the DBG30/190, CxC Mix A, a relatively stable hard, rubbery gel with a high ignition temperature, in the same family as the more volatile propellent Mix B used on infantry weapons.Baseplates from expended shells are saved; they are refurbished for reuse in new shells.
Even with this, the Priest only has space for a 200 round internal magazine with 2 types of ammunition. To increase accuracy, the gun estimated trajectory is highlighted on the HUD.
To preserve stealth, two doors cover the opening for the muzzles, just about eliminating the radar return from them.

All told the FA 16 Priest can carry an effective 7,500 kg maximum payload.

Avionics

Information and mission objectives are fed into the primary flight computers, multiprocessor interlinked computers located behind and underneath the pilot. These computers process the myriad of information the internal and external systems aquire, onboard mission data, battlenet information, and any other relevant data, and displays the information on a forward OLED HUD (multicolor instrument display and through the hybrid analog/digital glass cockpit display. Targeting information is displayed using the cockpit; as targets are highlighted using the OLED layer of the canopy and targets can be locked with the use of the Helmet Intergrated Mission Unified Display (HIMUD) cuing system. This system uses three radio transmitters intergrated in the helmet to determine the position and FOV of the pilot. As the pilot fixes a reticle on his target, computers in the cockpit translate his current head position and determine where he's looking, what he's looking at, and who he wants to shoot; allowing a pilot tracking a hostile visually to get a lock at any visible position when using radar guidance.

The quad redundant fly-by-light system implemented in the aircraft's controls allows for a programmable & emergency autopilot, ensuring the saftey and fighting readiness of the crew. Navigation features automatic GPS correcting, keeping the inertial navigation system accurate while under satellite coverage. All this is covered by a two-layered laminated plastic canopy sandwiching the OLED Target Highlight layer.

Like the Cardinal, backup mechanical displays are located in the Center Flight Panel, following a relative basic T - 10 mechanical gauges include, from left to right - Air Speed Velocity, Artifical Horizon, Altimeter, with a second row containing the Turn Coordinator, Heading Indicator, and Vertical velocity. Below these are mechanical external static pressure gauges, an analog clock, external temperature, and lift reserve. Although the HUD is qualified for Intrument Flight Rules, in the event of a failure of that device a pilot can successfully use the analog instruments and the ISOL FBL channel to control the aircraft.

Flanking this setup are two backlit Symmetric OLED Multifunction Displays, with one underneath, all featuring their requisite buttons and tabs. Fuel control panel is tucked slightly under and between the Center Flight Panel and right Symmetric MFD, and features a fuel release tab, engine cutoff, and manual rich-lean knob. Below the bottom MFD, an auxillary tube radio allows communication in the event of systems failure. Emergency Oxygen tab (a small red tab) is located on the top of the CFP; flipping this tab will provide a half hour of oxygen to the pilot, reserving the remainder in the case of ejection. On a separate box above the console, a remote mirror actuator box can be mounted to automatically flip 7 mirrors mounted in the canopy to provide view and HIMUD targeting to the rear. Above the pilot is the pull tab for the CPS330 Zero-Zero ejection seat. Pulling this tab will blow the canopy off in a stagger front-back-rear-launch pattern, deflecting it back. Pulling the tab off will launch the seat. Attachted to the east is the Emergency Oxygen Generator, which upon ejection will automatically activate and begin reaction.

All those airflow & frame stress sensors dotting the wings are utilized by the Flight Control computer to provide for a wing that actively uses the twist of the wing under aerodynamic stress to reduce structural loads & greatly improve agility - this feature is known as an Active Aeroelastic Wing, first tested on a NASA F/A 18 Hornet (dubbed the X 53). As a result, the Priest is a particularly tough in close range, knife fight engagements; certainly not the absolute most adgile aircraft, but more than enough to hold it's own.

Detection

The front nosecone of the Priest houses the GFVm-aero Multiband 3D AESA radar, a hemispherical 6,200 die array with a 260* all aspect FOV out to 320 km. In the rear, two small GFVs-aero radars work in unison out of the twin spikes to look out to 220 km. These radar, operating on the IEEE X, V/NATO M, W, and, in domestic models, I bands, gives the GFV family of radars unprecedented detection capabilities; capable of seeing through band-specific stealth features like RAM & RAS & in some cases even faceting and design. The radar family can also serve as mapping radars (via synthetic aperature mode), have full tracking functionality, terrain avoidance features, can serve as jammers, radar warning recievers, and can utilize a networking system (SaBOCAD COMLINK in domestic models) to share detection data with friendly aircraft. With this datasharing, the GFV family of radars can decouple the roles of emitter and reciever between a flight of aircraft, giving an added level of detection also able to see through many stealth designs.

Two retracting MOTS optical targeting domes are fitted to the aircraft; one below a door in front of the canopy which can rise up and provide AtA infrared targeting or use it's nightvision system to provide the pilot with visual terrain avoidance; and one below behind the forward landing gear using the full IR/TV/NV setup for ground targeting.

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Type: Fast Attack Fighter

Length: 16.78 m

Wingspan: 12.42 m

Height (Body) : 2.9 m

Ground clearance, landing gear down: 1.4 m

Propulsion: 1 x GEM a909LB CC VBT Afterburning 3D Thrust Vectoring Turbofan (3,121 kg)

Total Net Thrust: 29,360 kgf Dry, 35,520 kgf Burner

Empty Weight: 13,121 kg

Maximum Take-Off Weight: Est 33,000 kg

Normal Fuel Weight: 8,130 kg

Maximum Fuel Weight: 11,100 kg

Weapons Systems:

2 200 kg wingtip pylons
2 500 kg wing pylons
4 1000 kg wing pylons (2 innermost wet, 2 dry)


2 500 kg internal bays (Rotary, max dimensions 2.5 m X .5 m, maximum mounts 8)
1 1000 kg internal bays (Single, max dimensions 4.4 m X .75 m, maximum mounts 4)
1 30 mm double-barrel Mettel DBG30/190 Gast mechanism cannon (200 rounds, 3700 RPM, 83 kg)


Compatible with SARH-type, independent system-based command guidance, operator-based command guidance payloads.


Normal Stealth Payload: 1,113 kg

Maximum Stealth Payload: 2,113 kg

Normal non-stealth Payload: 4,513 kg

Maximum non-stealth Payload: 7,513 kg

Normal Stealth Combat Weight: 22,364 kg

Maximum Stealth Combat Weight: 26334 kg

Normal non-stealth Combat Weight: 25,763 kg

Maximum non-stealth Combat Weight: 31,734 kg

Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: .925 under maximum possible loadout

Variable Geometry Intake? Yes, twin articulating plates

G-Load Limits: -4.5/+12.7

Alpha: --, 33 degrees Software Limited (Disengagable in flight)

Baseline Range: ~ 2,000 km

Combat Radius: ~ 1,000 km

Ferry Range: ~ 5000 km

In-flight refueling? Yes, Boom and receptacle - located behind canopy.

Carrier Ready? Yes. Provisions for arresting gear hook. Provisions for catapult hookup.

Oxygen Generation? Yes - Sodium Chlorate cell located under pilot seat. 30 - 60 min duration.

Pressurized Canopy? Yes

Runway length, normal combat weight: ~180 m takeoff, > 150 m landing w/o thrust assisstance

Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 16.8 km

Maximum Altitude: 21.1 km

Cruising Speed: Mach .81 Sea Level

Supercruising Speed: Mach 1.41 @ Altitude

Maximum Speed: Mach 2.65 @ Altitude

Crew: 1 (Pilot)

Avionics Suite:
AOC Fly-by-light digitalized control
OLED Wraparound Canopy HUD
HIMUD Helmet Targeting & Cueing System
GFVm-aero Multiband 3D Phased Array Targeting Radar System
GFVs-aero Multiband 3D Phased Array Targeting Radar System (twin spike rear arrays)
Multiband Optical Targeting System (MOTS) Thermal, Visual, Laser Targeting & Designation with VLD Ground Targeting Suite (Retractable, Forward Nosecone, Belly)
SaBOCAD Battlenet uplink
Pathknowledge M5 INS
Pathknowledge Programmable Autmatic Control
C97 Intergrated Defense Countermeasures System (Chaff, IR/LD Blinder, CCDB, Radar Blinders, Intergrated Radar Jamming Suite)


Price: $64,331,424

Variants & Upgrades

B Model (Block VIII) STOL Variant (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12767714&postcount=59)
Granate
10-06-2007, 06:04
To: GEM
From: The Republican Monarchy of Granate

We wish to purchase 1,000 of these fine aircraft. Total price is $64,331,424,000 USD. Money to be wired upon acceptance of transaction.

OOC: Can I get a paintjob similiar to my other one?
Wagdog
10-06-2007, 07:07
To Whom it May Concern at GEM Aerospace,

We are most pleased with your fine FA-15 series, in both land-based D and navalized E models; and we would be quite remiss in failing to purchase yet another fine system of yours which meets our needs. As such, we would like to purchase the following for service with both our Army Air Force and our Marine Corps Air Division...

15,000 FA-16A
Modifications for retractable probe-drogue style refuelling fit requested.
Total: $964,971,360,000 USD

As well as to inquire after the costs of Domestic Production Rights, to keep our forces intact accounting for service attrition and also hedge against needed expansion in wartime. Once said costs have been assessed and should we be approved for DPRs, GEM Aerospace may add on the charges for licensing rights and machinery costs to our order without complaint from us; for your service has been excellent and we do not doubt it shall be so again.

Our Thanks,
Mario Iliescu
Party Secretary, Wagdoggie Noble Revolutionary Party
Secretary of Defense, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Schwartzenburg
10-06-2007, 09:11
The Grand Duchy of Schwartzenburg would like to purchase 120 FA 16 Advanced Tactical Strike Fighters.

Total Cost: $7,719,770,880

Ducal War Minister Johann Kriegstein
Southeastasia
10-06-2007, 10:15
[OOC: Nice art, good write-up...what RL basis is this?]
Allanea
10-06-2007, 10:44
OOC: I know little but I think the combat radius and range are too small.
Pan-Arab Barronia
10-06-2007, 13:04
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Having previously purchased the FA-15 Cardinal and found it to be more than satisfactory in internal Red Flag Exercises, we are pleased to see that GEM has released another fine aircraft for carrier use.

We wish to order 5,000 of these aircraft for tandem use alongside negociating deals with HDI, regarding the replacement of our fleet.

This should come to a total cost of $321,657,120,000 USD, and we hope to do business with you in the future.

Yours,

[signed]
Armen Zeroun
Foreign Affairs Minister for Pan-Arab Barronia
On behalf of
Pan-Arab Barronia Council for Defence and Warfare
Vetaka
10-06-2007, 13:08
Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: GEM Areospace
From: Vetakan Department of Defence

Subject: FA-16

Greetings,

My friends with the brilliant success of the FA-15 strike fighter within the Vetakan Air Defence Force the Vetakan Government wishes to purchase a provisonal 2,000 FA-16's with a view to purchasing more and Domestic Production Rights would this be possible?

Sam Fielding

Secretary of Vetakan Defence
Bryn Shander
10-06-2007, 13:23
OOC: I know little but I think the combat radius and range are too small.

You ought to look up the F/A-18E's then.
Calizorinstan
10-06-2007, 18:54
To: GEM Aerospace
From:Ministry of Defense of Calizorinstan

We have been so pleased with your earlier product, the F/A-15 Cardinal, it's preformed beyond expectations in combat, we wish to procure 150 F/A-16 Preist's for 9.649 billion, we will wire your money within the week. We thank you for your buisness with us,

Ed Wood
MOD
Calizorinstan
Cazelia
10-06-2007, 18:55
OOC arrrrggggg!!!! stupid computer!!!!!!:headbang:

IC we would like to purchase 200 FA 16 fighters.
the money will be wired within 2 days

signed,
J.R. Hasley, President of Cazelia
The Candrian Empire
10-06-2007, 18:58
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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All purchasing parties

Thank you for considering the GEM FA 16 Priest. Your orders have been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Expect the aircraft within the next 3 - 6 weeks.

OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Wagdog

Your aircraft have been modified; these aircraft feature a telescoping probe from the left LERX opposite the gun; when activated, the probe rises, telescopes out to 3.3 meters, and is ready to accept fuel.

OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Parties interested in Domestic Production Rights

As was with the Cardinal, DPR contracts are assessed on an individual basis, while machinery is a relatively flat price.

Wagdog

- 67,141,330,000 DPR CONTRACT - FA 16 & All further upgrades
- 414,233,131,220 MACHINERY COST

Vetaka

- 63,337,460,000 DPR CONTRACT - FA 16 & All further upgrades
- 414,233,131,220 MACHINERY COST

Machinery may only be used to produce FA 16 fighters & all upgrades. Military Consulate officials & GEM engineers are to be on manufacturing floor to prevent espionage and maintain quality. They are to be allowed unobstructed access to entire factory, including HQ. Breech of terms will result in economic, political, and possibly military intervention.




{If you bought a fighter, APPROVED!}

{SEA - Take a bigger F 35, put in a Gast cannon, add a bit more Raptor to it, some Rafale, a touch of MiG 29, and a whole lot of that Candrian flavor, and you get this baby.}

{Allanea - :mad: THE COMBAT RADIUS STAYS. bigger engines = drinks more fuels. Drinks more fuels = less range. Hell, it has IFR, it shouldn't be a problem anyway.}
Cazelia
10-06-2007, 19:17
we would like to purchase an additional 200 FA 16s
thank you
The Candrian Empire
10-06-2007, 19:27
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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The Imperial Democracy of Cazelia

Thank you for sticking with the FA 16 Priest. This order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Your aircraft will be delivered within 2 weeks.
Vetaka
10-06-2007, 19:44
Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: GEM Areospace
From: Vetakan Department of Defence

Subject: FA-16

Greetings,

Thank You for your quick and prompt response your price is alot less than what the Vetakan Treasury predicted and we thank you this as such we have already transfered the required funds into your bank accounts.

Thank You and Best Regards

Sam Fielding

Secretary of Vetakan Defence
The Candrian Empire
10-06-2007, 20:42
to top.
The Candrian Empire
10-06-2007, 23:38
What? Bumping again? MADNESS!
Lyras
10-06-2007, 23:57
OOC: Genuinely impressed.
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 00:06
OOC: Genuinely impressed.

Gracias.

I still didn't get into enough detail as I wanted to, but to be honest, this was supposed to be posted Wensday.
Vetaka
11-06-2007, 00:26
Drunk But A Feckin Great Plane !!!!!!
Greal
11-06-2007, 01:20
We would like to buy 500 of these fighters
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 01:37
We would like to buy 500 of these fighters

OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Greal Minister of Defense Jason Park

Thank you for selecting the FA 16 Priest. This order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Your aircraft will be delivered within 2 weeks.
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 02:17
come on nah'...
Greal
11-06-2007, 02:19
the price did surpise me a little.
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 02:24
Major components are shared between the Cardinal & Priest, to lower the costs. I limited use of expensive composites too.
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 04:22
... come one, come all! Give it a buy!
Czechalrus
11-06-2007, 04:54
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Czechalrussian Department of Defense

Our Air Forces wishes to purchase 100 of these fine aircraft for a total of $6,433,142,400. We will wire the funds upon the confirmation of this order. Thank you for your time.

Sincerly,
Yuri Jakobssen
President of Czechalrus
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 05:03
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Czechalrussian Department of Defense

Thank you for selecting the FA 16 Priest. Your order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Your aircraft will be delivered within 3 weeks, pending manufacture and export.



OOC:
What's next? madness. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Gizeh/B22Topview.png)
Layarteb
11-06-2007, 05:15
OOC: Just some clarification here. You say it has 3 internal bays for 1,000 kg each for 3,000 kg total and 8 mounts for the 1,000 kg configuration but in the breakdown it says 2 500 kg bays and 1 1,000 kg bay with the 1,000 kg having 4 mounts only. I'm totally confused here. With concern to your Gast Gun, what is the caliber in full (i.e. 30x???mm). Do you also have the weight of each bullet?

The Empire is interested in this fighter as it could provide an excellent replacement for our aging F-37 Razor. We wish to inquire about the purchase of some 264 of these fighters for service with our navy. We would like to ask for a special circumstance for these aircraft in that they will be delivered without avionics and without an internal gun as we plan to fit our own internal cannon and avionics. We will deliver the appropriate funds of $16,983,495,936 when our order is confirmed in a method of monthly installments of $1,415,291,328, which will allow payment in a single calendar year. We appreciate the effort made on this aircraft and we hope to see it shine in Layartebian service.

The Minister of Defense
Greal
11-06-2007, 05:18
you could lower the price.
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 05:32
OOC: Just some clarification here. You say it has 3 internal bays for 1,000 kg each for 3,000 kg total and 8 mounts for the 1,000 kg configuration but in the breakdown it says 2 500 kg bays and 1 1,000 kg bay with the 1,000 kg having 4 mounts only. I'm totally confused here. With concern to your Gast Gun, what is the caliber in full (i.e. 30x???mm). Do you also have the weight of each bullet?


Yeah, that has to be fixed. Go by the statblock for now, there are some things in the writeup that should be edited.

The shells are base 30x190, I don't have round weight off hand, somewhere between 500-600 grams I think. Round length is overall and accounts for the capacitor baseplate in the back.

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The Empire is interested in this fighter as it could provide an excellent replacement for our aging F-37 Razor. We wish to inquire about the purchase of some 264 of these fighters for service with our navy. We would like to ask for a special circumstance for these aircraft in that they will be delivered without avionics and without an internal gun as we plan to fit our own internal cannon and avionics. We will deliver the appropriate funds of $16,983,495,936 when our order is confirmed in a method of monthly installments of $1,415,291,328, which will allow payment in a single calendar year. We appreciate the effort made on this aircraft and we hope to see it shine in Layartebian service.

The Minister of Defense

[B]OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Layarteb Minister of Defense

Thank you for selecting the FA 16 Priest. This order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. As requested, avionics and the DBG30/190 have been removed. Your aircraft will be delivered within 2 weeks.
Layarteb
11-06-2007, 05:42
The Empire and the Ministry of Defense is grateful for your cooperation.

The Minister of Defense
Layarteb
11-06-2007, 05:46
OOC: One more question. The bullet I want to load in there with the cannon is 25x135mm so it's only going to be 335 rounds based on space but I could fit 528 rounds based on shell weight. What do you think is more accurate to do, space wise or weight wise?
Siriusa
11-06-2007, 07:04
OOC: Been waiting for this :D

IC:
To: GEM aerospace
From: Siriusan Military Arm

After the success of your previous fighter in the Siriusan military, we have been eagerly awaiting the release of this new fighter. We would like to purchase 200 FA 16 Priests as well as the DPRs and machinery required to produce such a fighter. The funds for the fighters (12,866,284,800 USD) has been wired. Please let us know of the cost of the DPRs and machinery so we may pay for that as well.

Chang Hu
Head of Military Arm
High Advisor to the Prince
Siriusa
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 11:37
OOC: One more question. The bullet I want to load in there with the cannon is 25x135mm so it's only going to be 335 rounds based on space but I could fit 528 rounds based on shell weight. What do you think is more accurate to do, space wise or weight wise?

Base it on volume, a considerably more pressing need within the frame and the foremost major constraint with stuffing things in this.

OOC: Been waiting for this :D

IC:
To: GEM aerospace
From: Siriusan Military Arm

After the success of your previous fighter in the Siriusan military, we have been eagerly awaiting the release of this new fighter. We would like to purchase 200 FA 16 Priests as well as the DPRs and machinery required to produce such a fighter. The funds for the fighters (6,433,142,400 USD) has been wired. Please let us know of the cost of the DPRs and machinery so we may pay for that as well.

Chang Hu
Head of Military Arm
High Advisor to the Prince
Siriusa

OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Chang Hu, Siriusa

Thank you for your interest in the Priest. Your order has been approved for export; your fighters will arrive within 3 weeks. Please stand by for DPR rights (as OOCly I'm not in a position to calc it.)
Cotland
11-06-2007, 12:37
Dear sir,

The Realm of Cotland would like to purchase a grand total of eight hundred (800) units of the FA 15 Priest for service with the Royal Cottish Navy's amphibious and aircraft carrier forces. For this purpose, I have recieved the approval from the Storting (national assembly) to spend a total of
$51,465,139,200 on the procurement of these eight hundred aircraft.

In Cottish service, the aircraft will be known as the F-28 Priest.

We would like to request that they be delivered without the cannon, as we wish to equip the aircraft with our own 27mm revolver-operated ETC cannon instead.

Thank you in advance.

[signed]
Viseadmiral Ørjan Bakke
Procurement Division, Defense Ministry, Realm of Cotland
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 13:27
Dear sir,

The Realm of Cotland would like to purchase a grand total of eight hundred (800) units of the FA 15 Priest for service with the Royal Cottish Navy's amphibious and aircraft carrier forces. For this purpose, I have recieved the approval from the Storting (national assembly) to spend a total of
$51,465,139,200 on the procurement of these eight hundred aircraft.

In Cottish service, the aircraft will be known as the F-28 Priest.

We would like to request that they be delivered without the cannon, as we wish to equip the aircraft with our own 27mm revolver-operated ETC cannon instead.

Thank you in advance.

[signed]
Viseadmiral Ørjan Bakke
Procurement Division, Defense Ministry, Realm of Cotland


OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Ørjan Bakke, Pocurement Division, Defense Ministry, Realm of Cotland

Thank you for showing interest in the Priest. Your order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Expect the aircraft within the next 3 weeks. As requested, the DBG30/190 cannon has been removed; please pay special attention to retuning the SMS and forward MOTS rangefinding equipment to account for your cannon's different characteristics.
Siriusa
11-06-2007, 17:21
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Chang Hu, Siriusa

Thank you for your interest in the Priest. Your order has been approved for export; your fighters will arrive within 3 weeks. Please stand by for DPR rights (as OOCly I'm not in a position to calc it.)

Thank you, we will wait for further news on the DPRs.

Chang Hu
High Advisor to the Prince
Head of Military Arm
Siriusa

OOC: Just realized I only paid for 100 in my previous post, it's edited and fixed now.
Liberal Men and Women
11-06-2007, 18:07
The Confederacy would like to purchase 5 FA-16 Priest fighters for evaluation and testing. The total comes to cr162,453,090.91 ($321,657,120).

(OOC: I will most likely purchase at least another 100 of these once I finally decide what to do for my next fighter... But this will probably win the naval contract to replace our current fighters)
Animarnia
11-06-2007, 19:26
To: GEM
From: Animarnia Defence Department (ADoD)
We are very interested in this new Fighter to replace our line of F-35B Joint Strike Fighters however we would need several modifications if possible to the design. We'd like the addition of the Air refuelling probe to be compatible with our KC-135 Tankers and TAKC-1A Thunderbirds. We'd also like the two rotary bays expanded to 3.8 meters to take our AIMX-121 Starbolt long-range Air Intercept Missiles along with the smaller AIMX-123 Skywalker Theatre Range Missile. We'd also require the internal bays expanded to 7m to accommodate our Extreme Range AIM-X122 Skytracker Missiles and BGMX-1 Waraxe Cruise Missiles (Without Booster). With the Centre internal bay strengthened to 4000kgs (2 Waraxe's). we understand that this may mean extensive modifications to the airframe or Engines however we are prepared to composite you for this on a per unit level.

If you can accommodate our requests we would be purchasing some 5,000 units with the additional fee for Limited Production Rights; to maintain our stocks at 5,000 but no more as it were. We thank you kindly for your time even if you are unable to meet our requirements

Signed
Matt Cartwright
Minister of Defence
The Candrian Empire
12-06-2007, 00:09
quicky.

Siriusa

- DPR license 64,242,124,000

- machinery 414,233,131,220

Cotland

- DPR license 62,441,202,000

- machinery 414,233,131,220


LMW

- Confirmed.

Animarnia

- With this aircraft, those weapons bay modifications are impossible. The aircraft just doesn't physically have the space to stretch out the center bay. That modification can be done on the Cardinal, however, considering strengthening the center pylon on that aircraft isn't the biggest deal. It already can handle weapons of those physical dimensions; even larger. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Gizeh/munitions.png) (points to N6 torp)
Siriusa
12-06-2007, 00:20
quicky.

Siriusa

- DPR license 64,242,124,000

- machinery 414,233,131,220


To: GEM aerospace
From: Siriusan Military Arm

We will pay the appropriate cost for the machinery and DPR liscense. 478,475,255,220 Billion USD has been wired to your account. It's been a pleasure doing business with you.
Layarteb
12-06-2007, 03:50
Base it on volume, a considerably more pressing need within the frame and the foremost major constraint with stuffing things in this.

OOC: Once again thank you for the clarification this is one nice aircraft I must admit. Do you plan on releasing a conventional version (i.e. no STOVL)? Anyway I'll keep on eye on future things you put together. If you ever get to making a Mach 3+, high-altitude interceptor with a moderate internal-only payload let me know. I'm itching to replace my F-36 Thorn (YF-12 on crack).
The Candrian Empire
12-06-2007, 04:22
OOC: The Ih 7's been kicking around in one incarnation or another for over a year; one day I'll make a satisfactory picture & stat it. How does mach 12 interceptor sound?

I'll release a non-STOVL version soon. I gotta restat it for the most part, tho. More fuel, higher payload, the stuff you expect from STOL conversions.
Layarteb
12-06-2007, 05:23
OOC: The Ih 7's been kicking around in one incarnation or another for over a year; one day I'll make a satisfactory picture & stat it. How does mach 12 interceptor sound?

I'll release a non-STOVL version soon. I gotta restat it for the most part, tho. More fuel, higher payload, the stuff you expect from STOL conversions.

OOC: Hmm...I might be purchasing a good amount of those STOL too :).

What I'm looking to replace eventually F-36 Thorn (http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Nation-States/LDC/Air/f36.htm).

I'm pretty good with specs but AWFUL with art, go figure...so I could even make up some nice specs on it with an uber pic...anyway just some food for thought. It still has some life left in it.
The Candrian Empire
12-06-2007, 11:47
It might be ready by next week. Since it's essentially the same as the STOVL Priest, I'm prolly not gonna work on a pic. I do get more room to play with by removing the fan.

Generally, with the Ih 7 I'm still working on how to get a picture to my liking that satisfies the constraints of high Mach flight. Blunt nose, delta stub wings, aerospike nozzle, etc; w/o being ugleh. It's as much art as pseudoscience.


I think I'll start releasing some of the munitions I made for these aircraft.

And if any established storefront owner wants to enter in a distro deal with GEM, well... just come a'knockin'... I need a more stable place to sell 'till I have a bigger portfolio of products.
Liberal Men and Women
12-06-2007, 15:57
I've actually been meaning to get around to starting my own storefront, and if you'd like, we could start a joint storefront under our control. Tell me what you think.
Vetaka
12-06-2007, 16:51
Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: GEM Areospace & Military Consulate of the Candrian Military Force
From: Directorate of Pearce Weapons Inc & Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: Bilateral Offer of Buisness and Defence

Greetings,

My Friends after hearing of your desire to enter into a joint buisness to market your products Vetaka via the Arms Manufacture Pearce Weapons Inc has a proposal for you. Pearce Weapons Inc is a company owned primarily by the Government of the Free Dominion of Vetaka the Government owns 75% with the Government of Wagdog owning 10% and the Timber Wolf Corporation owning 15%. We would like to market your products via Pearce Weapons Inc in co-ordination with our own products primarily the OBSAT System if you agree we would market your products jointly.

The Free Dominion of Vetaka would also like to go further and offer you a 5% share of Pearce Weapons Inc, A Free OBSAT Level 2 Package and Domestic Production Rights of an upcoming Naval Ship that is soon to be released and is currently known under the Phoenix Project. Due to Classifications I am unable to divulge detailed information however the Phoenix Project will give birth to the Phoenix Class Superdreadnought.

Further to the above Pearce Weapons Inc would like to fund GEM Areospace in its R&D with $250 Billion USD every NS Year. From there Pearce Weapons Inc would continue to market your products with your organization taking all of the profits.

On a more international note the Free Dominion of Vetaka in co-ordination with the nation of Wagdog would like to enter into a Defensive Entente with you, and hopefully invite you to join the United Federation of Allied Nations.

Yours

Sam Fielding

Secretary of the Department of Vetakan Defence

OOC:

Pearce Weapons Inc (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521785)
The Fedral Union
12-06-2007, 16:58
we would like to inquire how much... and if your selling production rights for?
Animarnia
12-06-2007, 17:58
Animarnia

- With this aircraft, those weapons bay modifications are impossible. The aircraft just doesn't physically have the space to stretch out the center bay. That modification can be done on the Cardinal, however, considering strengthening the center pylon on that aircraft isn't the biggest deal. It already can handle weapons of those physical dimensions; even larger. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/Gizeh/munitions.png) (points to N6 torp)

Reply
That is somewhat unfortunate; would it be posable to extend the side bays to 3.8 Meters along with the Refueling probe as a less extreme modifaction and we would require access to replace your battlenet system with our own StrikeNet System though it should be a simple software swap with Limited Domestic Production Rights for the aircraft with our modifactions. we thank you for pointing us towards the Cardinal however we already use our indiginous F-5 Valkyrie Strike Interceptor as our primary Non Stealth Strike Fighter
The Candrian Empire
12-06-2007, 20:41
Reply
That is somewhat unfortunate; would it be posable to extend the side bays to 3.8 Meters along with the Refueling probe as a less extreme modifaction and we would require access to replace your battlenet system with our own StrikeNet System though it should be a simple software swap with Limited Domestic Production Rights for the aircraft with our modifactions. we thank you for pointing us towards the Cardinal however we already use our indiginous F-5 Valkyrie Strike Interceptor as our primary Non Stealth Strike Fighter


Modification of the lateral bays are possible, yes. Increasing them to ~3.8 meters will involve repositioning the static ports, the two holes on the side of the aircraft behind the weapons bay. Instrument readings may be affected.

Limited DPR contract, as assessed for your nation, comes to 68,442,131,000. Machinery cost for producing this modification comes to 421,191,625,130. Of course, you are required to have GEM & MC officials at all levels of the factory floor.


we would like to inquire how much... and if your selling production rights for?

As assessed for your nation, DPR contract license comes to 64,929,201,000. Machinery comes to 414,233,131,220. Everything is to be monitored by GEM & MC officials.

If you're willing to pay, consider it approved.
The Candrian Empire
12-06-2007, 23:28
bump.
Layarteb
12-06-2007, 23:37
It might be ready by next week. Since it's essentially the same as the STOVL Priest, I'm prolly not gonna work on a pic. I do get more room to play with by removing the fan.

Generally, with the Ih 7 I'm still working on how to get a picture to my liking that satisfies the constraints of high Mach flight. Blunt nose, delta stub wings, aerospike nozzle, etc; w/o being ugleh. It's as much art as pseudoscience.


I think I'll start releasing some of the munitions I made for these aircraft.

And if any established storefront owner wants to enter in a distro deal with GEM, well... just come a'knockin'... I need a more stable place to sell 'till I have a bigger portfolio of products.

Well I have a very successful storefront it just hasn't seen action in a while because I sort of ignored it but I'd be happy to host for you. The link is in my sig. It needs a facelift anyway. I'm looking for about 528 aircraft to replace the Thorn and the ones I am looking for, mainly just in spec wise, will have 2 rear forward facing bays for up to 3 heavy AAMs each (4500 lb. total for 3 missiles) or 8 - 10 lighter AAMs and then possible 2 forward or 1 forward bay for just IR aams on a rotary launcher, perhaps 4 to a launcher, maybe two bays, unsure still but it'll be Mach 3.2 - Mach 3.5 ish in terms of speed...like I said it'll be just a YF-12 II basically in terms of role cuz the YF-12 I use is modified to like YF-12 B lol or something odd like that. Range'll be at least 2000km - 3000km combat
The Candrian Empire
13-06-2007, 04:42
... wait what?

Back on this for now; I'll sort out outlets and future designs later.
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 01:55
bump.
Liberal Men and Women
14-06-2007, 02:05
OOC: I have plans to soon buy at least 20 of these puppies for a special project (HAWC Project Bishop, once I get around to putting it together), and most likely another 264 for my navy... Just a heads up.
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 02:30
OOC: kk.

working on that non-STOVL variant.
Liberal Men and Women
14-06-2007, 02:39
The 20 will probably be the STOVL version, while the others will probably be STOL only.
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 03:54
FA 16B STOL Variant (Block VIII)


The FA 16B variant of the Priest is a short takeoff/landing model, designed to provide a capable fighter for light carriers capable of supporting it. Freed from the weight and space of the lift fan system, the Priest can now hold far larger internal munitions, more fuel, and sports improved low-speed aerodynamics. The lack of hover and verticle landing means that the fighter is more restricted in where it can operate, however.

As the B model is not necessarily a performance upgrade, modification to this model will cost the difference between prices.

Changes:


Empty Weight: 12,122 Kg

Maximum Takeoff Weight (est): ~ 34,000 kg

Normal/Max Fuel Weights: 7,450 kg/12,480 kg

Weapons Systems Changes:

2 200 kg wingtip pylons
2 500 kg wing pylons
4 1000 kg wing pylons (2 innermost wet, 2 dry)
2 1000 kg fuselage pylons (wet_

2 500 kg internal bays (Rotary, max dimensions 2.5 m X .5 m, maximum mounts 8)
1 2500 kg internal bays (Single, max dimensions 7.8 m X 1.1 m, maximum mounts 8)
1 30 mm double-barrel Mettel DBG30/190 Gast mechanism cannon (300 rounds, 3700 RPM, 83 kg)


Compatible with SARH-type, independent system-based command guidance, operator-based command guidance payloads.


Normal Stealth Payload: 1,123 kg

Maximum Stealth Payload: 3,623 kg

Normal non-stealth Payload: 6,023 kg

Maximum non-stealth Payload: 11,023 kg

Normal Stealth Combat Weight: 20,695 kg

Maximum Stealth Combat Weight: 28,225 kg

Normal non-stealth Combat Weight: 25,595 kg

Maximum non-stealth Combat Weight: 33,225 kg

Thrust-to-Weight Ratio: .88 under maximum possible loadout

Baseline Range: ~ 2,800 km

Combat Radius: ~ 1,400 km

Ferry Range: ~ 6000 km

Price: $66,434,330
Liberal Men and Women
14-06-2007, 04:03
Right then.

The Confederacy would like to purchase 15 FA-16A STOVL fighters for a cost of cr494,857,107.70 ($964,971,360)and 264 FA-16B STOL fighters for a cost of cr8,994,186,215.39 ($17,538,663,120) this brings the total to cr9,489,043,323.09 ($18,503,634,480).
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 04:05
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Confederacy of Liberal Men and Women

Order approved, thanks for coming to us. The aircraft will finish manufacture and ship in the next 2 weeks.
Layarteb
14-06-2007, 05:09
The Empire wishes to purchase 176 variants of the FA-16B Priest for use in our navy. We are wiring the appropriate funds of $11,692,442,080 over a 12-month period as per the previous agreement with the FA-16A Priest. This means a monthly sum of $974,370,173.33 will be deposited in your account. As with the FA-16A we wish these airframes to exclude an internal cannon and avionics. Such will be fitted in upon arrival in the Empire.

The Minister of Defense
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 05:18
quicky - order approved.

if you want to change your As to Bs, it's no problem. sorry for the long wait.
Layarteb
14-06-2007, 05:31
quicky - order approved.

if you want to change your As to Bs, it's no problem. sorry for the long wait.

OOC: Actually I'm going to keep the As and do a 2:1 ratio of B to A in the ILN [so 176 "B" & 88 "A"] and then take the other 176 "A" variants and maybe shoot them to the Marines or Defense Forces. Also you could probably, easily, get 400 rds of 30mm in there because you really free up a LOT of space and bullets aren't big.
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 19:05
bump.
Wagdog
14-06-2007, 20:34
Having noted the excellence of your prior products, this new variant of the Priest is also of interest to us. Particularly, it lets us replace the last of our older interceptors, so it's a key element in upgrading our forces while retaining our organization. Hence we'd like to order 5,250 FA-16Bs for $348,780,232,500 USD, with our usual probe-drogue refuelling modifications of course; as well as inquire after a DPR rights contract amendment for this variant, since we understand such would be required given the differences between the two Priest models. Money stands ready to wire for both bulk shipment and DPR fees upon confirmation, and we thank you again for your excellent service and quality standards.

Sincerely,
Mario Iliescu
Party Secretary, Wagdoggie Noble Revolutionary Party
Secretary of Defense, USSW Revolutionary Command Council
Tarsinia
14-06-2007, 20:50
I have been granted premission by President Jeff Barton to Order 200 FA-16's for the Tarsinia National Air Force (TNAF) the money will be wired once the order is confirmed

Signed,
General Frank Bell
Commanding General of The TNAF
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 21:06
Having noted the excellence of your prior products, this new variant of the Priest is also of interest to us. Particularly, it lets us replace the last of our older interceptors, so it's a key element in upgrading our forces while retaining our organization. Hence we'd like to order 5,250 FA-16Bs for $348,780,232,500 USD, with our usual probe-drogue refuelling modifications of course; as well as inquire after a DPR rights contract amendment for this variant, since we understand such would be required given the differences between the two Priest models. Money stands ready to wire for both bulk shipment and DPR fees upon confirmation, and we thank you again for your excellent service and quality standards.

Sincerely,
Mario Iliescu
Party Secretary, Wagdoggie Noble Revolutionary Party
Secretary of Defense, USSW Revolutionary Command Council


OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Mario Iliescu, Party Secretary

Thanks for coming back! Your bulk order has been confirmed and approved, expect delivery within the next 3 weeks pending modification. Adding provisions for the B variant results in a baseline addition fee of $2,000,000,000.

I have been granted premission by President Jeff Barton to Order 200 FA-16's for the Tarsinia National Air Force (TNAF) the money will be wired once the order is confirmed

Signed,
General Frank Bell
Commanding General of The TNAF


OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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General Bell, TNAF

Thank you for your interest in the Priest. Your order has been approved by the Military Consulate for export; however, before your fighters arrive, we'd like to know what model (A or B) you specifically require; as the original order is unclear on this issue. The total price for the A model comes to $12,866,284,800; considering this is beyond your nation's current defense budget, we'd like to arrange a payment plan with your nation as to facilitate the purchase,IE deferred payment, or a loan from GEM Financial.
Animarnia
14-06-2007, 21:19
Offical Reply
after careful consideration We would like to buy 5000 of the Animarnia Custom model; GEM F-16 for the agreed price plus DPR's Money will be wired automatically upon confirmation
The Candrian Empire
14-06-2007, 21:32
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Animarnia

Thank you for sticking with the Priest. Your order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Expect the aircraft within the next 3 weeks, pending modification.
The Fedral Union
15-06-2007, 03:00
The Federal Union DoD funding commission shall approve funds for this transaction, thank you for your time and cooperation.
Liberal Men and Women
28-06-2007, 21:52
The UDFCLMW would like to purchase 528 FA-16B STOL fighters to complement new carriers being purchased. The total is cr17,896,595,020.41 ($35,077,326,240).
The Candrian Empire
28-06-2007, 22:03
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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UDFCLMW

Thank you for sticking with the Priest. Your order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Expect the aircraft within the next 3 weeks. If there is anything in particular you would like done to the aircraft, don't hesitate to let us know!
Liberal Men and Women
28-06-2007, 22:20
Actually, we would like to inquire as to whether or not there are any two seat trainers available for the FA-16B, or even A.
Liberal Men and Women
01-07-2007, 03:49
And furthermore purchase 108 more F-16B for cr3,642,085,096.45 ($7,174,907,640)
The Candrian Empire
01-07-2007, 05:43
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Liberal Men and Women

Thanks for coming back! Unfortunately, due to the nature of the aircraft, a two-seat trainer version is impossible; when the Candrian Consolidated storefront outlet opens (independent or not) dedicated performance trainer aircraft will be available. However, your further order of Priests have been approved; expect the aircraft within the next 2 weeks.
Liberal Men and Women
01-07-2007, 05:57
I figured that would be likely. I had planned to convert two of my unused carriers into dedicated training carriers, and was looking to purchase a complement of trainers. While waiting for a response, it was decided to unmothball these two ships, purchase a third (and a few more ships as well), and create three light carrier groups, leading to the latest purchase.
Shenyang
07-07-2007, 02:59
Joint-Venture of the Independent Shenyangi Air Force, Shenyangi Navy, and the Shenyangi Marine Corps

The ISAF, SN, and SMC are interested in the procuring of 900 aircraft comprising multiple variants of the F/A-16 as listed below:
(ISAF): 200 F/A-16B block VIII
(SN): 300 F/A-16A
(SMC): 400 F/A-16A
We are currently ready to transfer funds equivalent to the sum of:
$57,898,281,600 USD
in whatever manner you so desire to complete this transaction. We thank you for your time in this matter.
The Candrian Empire
07-07-2007, 03:08
OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Shenyang

Thank you for choosing the FA 16 Priest. Your order has been approved by the Military Consulate for foreign export. Expect the aircraft within the next 3-4 weeks, pending manufacture and delivery.
Shenyang
07-07-2007, 03:10
Your funds are enroute as of this message.
Orbath
19-07-2007, 05:28
The nation of Orbath would like to purchase 800 of these fine aircraft for the total of $51 465 139 200.
Asgarnieu
19-07-2007, 05:39
Office 89
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Balkan City S.A.R., United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

To: GEM Aerospace
From: Asgarnian Air Force Procurement Command
Subject: Inquiry

Greeting.

We would like to know whether or not the F/A-16 can be used in an interceptor role. We are currently lacking an interceptor aircraft, and have been using modified strike fighters with smaller payloads and more powerful, albeit dangerous engines.

If the aircraft can in fact be used in an interceptor role, we would like to purchase an as-of-late undetermined number of units.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,

Gen (4-S) Steven O. Sanderson
Commander of ASF-PC
The Candrian Empire
21-07-2007, 01:41
Office 89
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Balkan City S.A.R., United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

To: GEM Aerospace
From: Asgarnian Air Force Procurement Command
Subject: Inquiry

Greeting.

We would like to know whether or not the F/A-16 can be used in an interceptor role. We are currently lacking an interceptor aircraft, and have been using modified strike fighters with smaller payloads and more powerful, albeit dangerous engines.

If the aircraft can in fact be used in an interceptor role, we would like to purchase an as-of-late undetermined number of units.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,

Gen (4-S) Steven O. Sanderson
Commander of ASF-PC

OFFICIAL CORPORATE RESPONSE
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Steven O. Sanderson, Commander of ASF-PC

Forgive us for the late response (OOC: I was occupied most of the week). Such usage would depend on your definition of 'interceptor' - if you require a high-speed fighter capable of long-range interdiction, and stealth isn't a concern, then the FA-15D is likely the better choice. However, if a reduced cross-section is required (even at the expense of speed, payload, and agility), then the FA-16 fits the bill. If you want further information on the FA-15, we shall provide you some informative literature for comparison (Re: check the sig.) Thank you for showing interest in GEM aerospace!
Asgarnieu
21-07-2007, 02:23
Office 89
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Balkan City S.A.R., United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

To: GEM Aerospace
From: Asgarnian Air Force Procurement Command
Subject: Inquiry

Greeting.

Thank you. We are quite interested in the F/A-15 and will be requesting a purchase order very shortly.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,

Gen (4-S) Steven O. Sanderson
Commander of ASF-PC
The Candrian Empire
24-07-2007, 23:56
Consolidated Storefront will open soon when I finish my ZOMG missile and stealth fighter (which won't be for sale, or even IC knowledge to anyone outside a few nations.) >.>
Liberal Men and Women
25-07-2007, 00:05
Consolidated Storefront will open soon when I finish my ZOMG missile and stealth fighter (which won't be for sale, or even IC knowledge to anyone outside a few nations.) >.>

Would I be one of those few nations?

BTW, I'm working on the write up. I'm just having trouble getting it close to your level. You set a high standard for writeups, and I'm not particularly good.
The Candrian Empire
25-07-2007, 00:09
You've developed a good profile with the Military Consulate; you'd probably be one of the nations capable of getting DPRs.

With the writeup - As long as it's informative - gets the point of the system across and how it's done - then it will be good. I still have to edit that writeup a bit and add a price (which I haven't gotten any help in), so I'm in no rush.
Liberal Men and Women
25-07-2007, 00:17
You've developed a good profile with the Military Consulate; you'd probably be one of the nations capable of getting DPRs.

With the writeup - As long as it's informative - gets the point of the system across and how it's done - then it will be good. I still have to edit that writeup a bit and add a price (which I haven't gotten any help in), so I'm in no rush.

It's definitely informative, it's just incomprehensible (even for me at times, and that's not a good sign...)

Also, I'd like to explore the possibility of selling some of my craft on your storefront, since I'm too lazy to make my own. For descriptions of it, go here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Jeffersonian_Engineering_Corporation#Fighters). (I linked specifically to the aircraft section, but feel free to look through the rest of it. I plan to eventually get around to putting them up on NSDraftroom for some feedback.
Siriusa
25-07-2007, 00:25
Consolidated Storefront will open soon when I finish my ZOMG missile and stealth fighter (which won't be for sale, or even IC knowledge to anyone outside a few nations.) >.>

OOC: Would I be among those, as a frequent customer and user of your aircraft?
The Candrian Empire
25-07-2007, 00:40
It's definitely informative, it's just incomprehensible (even for me at times, and that's not a good sign...)

Also, I'd like to explore the possibility of selling some of my craft on your storefront, since I'm too lazy to make my own. For descriptions of it, go here (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Jeffersonian_Engineering_Corporation#Fighters). (I linked specifically to the aircraft section, but feel free to look through the rest of it. I plan to eventually get around to putting them up on NSDraftroom for some feedback.

Sure, I'll carry your stuff. Seriously, go on Draftroom, it's a major help.

OOC: Would I be among those, as a frequent customer and user of your aircraft?

Likely.

Everyone Else - You'd know if you can get them. That's all. Don't ask.
Liberal Men and Women
25-07-2007, 16:56
The UDFCLMW HAWC would like to purchase 20 FA-16A fighters for... testing purposes. The total is cr647,327,671.57 (or $1,286,628,480), and has already been forwarded.

~Commodore Ford, project Atlantis
The Candrian Empire
01-08-2007, 22:59
(Sorry... approved.)
Blackhelm Confederacy
03-08-2007, 05:27
Once again, we are turning to you for our needs in the air. We have yet another large order, and hope that we can pay this one off in four payments. We need one thousand Priests to replace our F-14 Tomcats currently in service.

Total Price:
$64,331,424,000

Thank you,
Jack Phoenixclaw, Chairman, Board of Directors, Griffincrest Oil Incorporated
The Candrian Empire
03-08-2007, 05:34
(Quickie - Approved.)
Hamptonshire
06-08-2007, 23:55
To: GEM Aerospace
From: Office of the Minister of State for Naval Forces

The Department of Defense and Intelligence (DoDI), through the Minister of State for Naval Forces, would like to purchase two thousand four hundred (2,400) FA 16s and one thousand five hundred (1,500) FA 16B STOL variants. The total sum of the procurement, $254,046,912,600, will be made available in per-unit-produced installments once delivery begins.

[Signed]]
Dame Rachael Sampson, KCHE
Acting Minister of State for Naval Forces
United Realms of the Hamptonian Empire
The Candrian Empire
06-08-2007, 23:59
(approved'd... I'll edit this to be all fancy and to give specifics later, but I don't have the time right now, sorry.)
Granate
07-08-2007, 00:24
To: GEM
From: Republican Monarchy Defense Ministry

We wish to purchase 2,000 FA-16Bs STOL fighters for our Navy and Air Force. Payment will be made upon confirmation.


Sincerely
RMDM
Aequatio
07-08-2007, 20:46
To: GEM Aerospace
From: Vice Admiral Alexandra Tripp, Aequatian Republic Navy and Marine Corps Aviation Command Procurement Committee Chairman

The Aequatian Republic Marine Corps require a suitable strike aircraft to replace the A-16A Invader aircraft already in service and we feel, after careful consideration, that the FA-16A Priest fulfills our operational requirements sufficiently. We wish to request that they are produced in Aequatio with the following modifications made to the aircraft. A total of one thousand two hundred (1,200) would be required to fulfill our current needs.


Replacement of Mettel DBG30/190 with Russkyan AAC/SB-DF 01 30mm automatic cannon.
Integration with Illiorian AIM-133A Star Seeker AMRAAM and A.M.I. AIM-196B Starfire AQMAAM. In addition to other A.M.I. weapon systems.
Replacement of GFVm-aero Multiband 3D Phased Array Targeting Radar System with APG-127 Active Electronically Scanned Array Radar (AESAR).
Removal of rear-mounted GFVs-aero Multiband 3D Phased Array Targeting Radar System.
Replacement of AOC Fly-by-light digitalized control and HIMUD Helmet Intergrated HUD with the AAI Advanced Crew Station and Joint Helmet-Mounted Queuing System, respectively.
Replacement of Multiband Optical Targeting System (MOTS) Thermal, Visual, Laser Targeting & Designation with VLD Ground Targeting Suite with ASQ-337 Forward-Looking Infrared Targeting Suite (FLIRTS).
Replacement of C97 Intergrated Defense Countermeasures System with AN/ALQ-214 RFCM (Radio Frequency Countermeasures) and AN/ALQ-123 IDECM (Integrated Defensive Countermeasures) Suites.
The Candrian Empire
11-08-2007, 02:54
O_O

Both orders approved, sorry for the wait. Aequatio - all mods done.
Tristan Providence
11-10-2007, 22:07
nvm
Tristan Providence
12-10-2007, 19:22
bump?
Greal
12-10-2007, 23:45
Greal would like to buy 2000 FA-16A Priests for a total of $128,662,848,000, the money will be wired automactially when confirmed.
Revanati
13-10-2007, 23:57
The free lands of Revanati would like to purchase an initial 150 of your fighters with prospect for further purchase at a later date. Should the aircraft prove useful we would look at the further proposal of internal construction of another 450 - 850 aircraft under an approved commercial contract should you agree.
Fson
23-12-2007, 16:20
i would like to buy to fa-16s if thats ok i will wire the amount that you request.
Shansekia
18-03-2008, 09:03
To: GEM Aerospace
From: Shansekian Air Force

We would like to purchase the DPR to the FA-16 Priest for 70 billion dollars.

Chief of Staff of the Air Force Mark Swift
Allanea
18-03-2009, 01:59
OOC:

With the permission of the Candrian Empire's player, I will be doubling my stock of F/A-16 aircraft as part of the overall increase of the size of my air force. That is all.
Allanea
18-04-2009, 05:06
Official Message from the United States Government

We require the following weaponry for our own purposes:

10,000 FA-16 Navalized Strike Fighters, painted in our ordinary Air Force colors.
10 FA-15 Priest Air Superiority craft for testing, painted orange.

651.5 billion dollars will be wired upon confirmation.
Gumuhuriyyat Misr
18-04-2009, 05:43
لمن يهمه الأمر

The Arab Republic of Egypt would be interested in acquiring 60 of the land-based variety of these aircraft. The funds in question will be transferred upon confirmation of the receipt of the order.

نشكر لكم عنايتكم الكريمة بهذه القضية العاجلة