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Valgardian Slave Market Thread (PT, Closed)

The Scandinvans
08-06-2007, 21:06
Age Designations:
Old: 37+
Prime: 15-37
Young: 0-14

General Setup:
Age Designation: Numbers for Sale: Price Per Slave

Currency In Use:

Drao: Gold coin largest coin, and the most valuable of the coins, about thirty days' wages. 17 grams of gold, 7 grams of copper, and 16 grams of bronze.

Eri: Silver coin and second in value, ten day's wages. 4 grams of gold, 13 grams of silver, and 10 grams of bronze.

Tiret: Most widely used of the more valuable coins, equal to five days wages. 1 gram of gold, 8 grams of silver, and 9 grams of bronze.

Meit: Copper coin and this most valuable of the more common coins, three and a half days wages. 3.5 grams of silver, 11 grams of copper, 4 gramw of brass, and 7 grams of bronze.

Zio: Bronze coin, fairly large, equal to about day's wages. 1 gram of silver, 3 grams of copper, 4 grams of brass, and 16 grams of bronze.

Lieto: Brass coin, very small coin, and about a fifth of a day's wages. 1 gram of copper, 3 grams of bronze, and 5 grams of brass.

*Note one a day wages is the term used for on how much a trade or shopkeeper makes on average every day which is about two times higher then a soldier or a common farmer.*

Agricultural Slaves:

Males:
Old: 41,560: 3 Draos
Prime: 128,390: 4 Draos & 1 Eris
Young: 111,800: 3 Draos & 2 Eris

Female:
Old: 37,450: 2 Draos
Prime: 119,500: 3 Draos & 2 Eris
Young: 106,100: 3 Draos

Clerk Slaves:

Male:
Old: 2,100: 21 Draos
Prime: 4,200: 18 Draos & 1 Eri

Blacksmith Slaves:

Male:
Old: 5,970: 13 Draos & 2 Eris
Prime: 10,620: 14 Draos

Shipwrights:

Male:
Old: 1,600: 25 Draos & 1 Eri
Prime: 2,400: 22 Draos & 1 Eri

Concubines:

Male:
Prime: 3,200: 20 Draos

Female:
Prime: 6,400: 27 Draos & 2 Eris

Unfit (Fat, Weak):

Male:
Old: 2,400: 1 Draos 2 Eris
Prime: 3,500: 2 Draos

Female:
Old: 2,100: 2 Draos
Prime: 3,200: 2 Draos

Part of this Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528122
Carloginias
08-06-2007, 21:34
((OOC- Close to only PT members?))

The island Kingdom of Halestia would like to purchase any Hale Elven slaves that might have been taken from any Halestian trading outposts on the southern peninsula of your empire. We are willing to pay in drao.

Kijita Halyus

Minister of Trade
The Scandinvans
08-06-2007, 21:44
((OOC- Close to only PT members?))

The island Kingdom of Halestia would like to purchase any Hale Elven slaves that might have been taken from any Halestian trading outposts on the southern peninsula of your empire. We are willing to pay in drao.

Kijita Halyus

Minister of TradeOOC: Yes, as this is only open to members of the thread we are rping in.

IC: Upon looking in our records the last of the Hale elves taken in the conqeust of the south we sold as slaves about seventy years ago and we only have a few dozen Hale elven concubines that come through our doors every year and the list on them is about a decade long and as such we are not at liberty to sell them and we out of stock of Hale elves entirely sadly so we cannot sell you any.

Signed,
Tradesmen of the Slave Market of Vismar
Carloginias
08-06-2007, 22:00
The Halestian government requests the records pertaining to who the Elves were sold to.

Kijita Halyus

Minister of Trade
The Scandinvans
08-06-2007, 22:10
The Halestian government requests the records pertaining to who the Elves were sold to.

Kijita Halyus

Minister of TradeWe apologize we cannot give out that information as it is a private matter and the fact of the matter is that all buyers are essentially anonymous and the only real files of who buy slaves are kept in the capital’s vaults under a series of very good barriers to prevent anyone not welcome from even reading the files.

Signed,
Tradesmen of the Slave Market of Vismar
Hakurabi
09-06-2007, 00:57
To those who would want it, there are other, more surreptitious channels in which such information can be obtained... for a price.

In a very deja vu situation, a dwarf stood at the Vismar docks, wearing a dull orange shirt with well combed hair, looking very much like a tour guide.

Unlike his counterpart in another reality, he looked very suspicious.

Perhaps it had something to do with the liberator key blatantly on his belt.

Or maybe it was the crossbow bolt in his back, or the fact that he was slowly tumbling into the water with glazed eyes.

---

But enough about this dwarf. There were channels in which one could discover the locations of specific slaves, if one knew where to look.
The Scandinvans
09-06-2007, 01:27
To those who would want it, there are other, more surreptitious channels in which such information can be obtained... for a price.

In a very deja vu situation, a dwarf stood at the Vismar docks, wearing a dull orange shirt with well combed hair, looking very much like a tour guide.

Unlike his counterpart in another reality, he looked very suspicious.

Perhaps it had something to do with the liberator key blatantly on his belt.

Or maybe it was the crossbow bolt in his back, or the fact that he was slowly tumbling into the water with glazed eyes.

---

But enough about this dwarf. There were channels in which one could discover the locations of specific slaves, if one knew where to look.OOC: Sorry, by specfic channels each slave is given only a number, without their name being put down, and the vaults are essentially closed and the shipments are not open to ANY unwelcome person as you are not giving me enough credit in my secercy as your intellgience is from slaves mostly and my system is quite complex and all sales are protected in secrecy and the slaves will not know where they are going only by the cardianl directions which can be hundreds of miles.

IC: At the dock four Valgardian guards approached them with their sergant saying," Dwarf surrender your weapon to us and pay a 2 Zio fine for carrying a weapon inside the city where it is legally forbidden for your kind to bear weapons in urban areas."
Hakurabi
09-06-2007, 01:43
(OOC: Actually, the fact that the only target is 'Hale Elves' means I can, because all they need to do is find people of a given ethnic type. They don't need to go for the records, they just need to figure out who's who. Just because you give a slave a number, doesn't mean they don't still have a name and won't go by that name.

It's bypassing the bureaucracy. They just investigate, find who they're looking for, and pass on the information.

You're not giving the intelligence network enough credit. They don't need to go through official records.)

The dwarf completely failed to respond. He continued to slide into the water, and blood trickled from his mouth. His eyes were rapidly going white, and the guards would notice a hint of green on the crossbow bolt.

A second crossbow bolt flitted out of nowhere, aimed at the neck of the guard sergeant.
The Scandinvans
09-06-2007, 02:01
(OOC: Actually, the fact that the only target is 'Hale Elves' means I can, because all they need to do is find people of a given ethnic type. They don't need to go for the records, they just need to figure out who's who. Just because you give a slave a number, doesn't mean they don't still have a name and won't go by that name.

It's bypassing the bureaucracy. They just investigate, find who they're looking for, and pass on the information.

You're not giving the intelligence network enough credit. They don't need to go through official records.)

The dwarf completely failed to respond. He continued to slide into the water, and blood trickled from his mouth. His eyes were rapidly going white, and the guards would notice a hint of green on the crossbow bolt.

A second crossbow bolt flitted out of nowhere, aimed at the neck of the guard sergeant.OOC: Alright, I am assuming to much again and by the way Hale elves are not nesscairly treated badly as many are acutally treated quite, kinda of like harem girls for the women, so not all may want to return to their homeland as some used to be peasents and are now better off with a life of luxury in the 'harem' of a rich Valgardian noble. So in a sense they are more mistresses then slaves as all female Hale elves are in that area and the males are regulated to the place of servants or pieces in the courts of powerful Valgardian families.

IC: At the dock the Sergeant, though not dead, was on the ground bleeding rather heavily and was not able to fight further, though he would have to be healed in the next ten minutes to survive with the serve risk of death.

As for the other guards they took up their shields and formed a little shield wall as now Valgardian hunters searched the area for the attacker(s).
Hakurabi
09-06-2007, 02:31
(OOC: What happens once they're found isn't my problem, though. If Calorginas decides to contract the Three Lanterns, then Halestia will get the information.

Heck, he could decide to have them all assassinated.)

A clatter was heard as the hidden assailant dropped his crossbow, and ran, his job now done.

A black cloaked figure was seen fleeing across the rooftops, dropping down into an alleyway and running into a building.

The pressing matter now was the Sergeant, whose crossbow bolt had also been poisoned. A ranger would be able to tell it was a lethal poison made from various local fungi and was a fairly common commodity among assassins.

They called it 'Silent Death', because it was lethal within mere minutes and cut off their unfortunate victim's control of their vocal cords, preventing them from calling out for help.

In particular, an expert would be able to identify that this was not the work of the Three Lanterns, but rather that of an assassin for hire. They did not use Silent Death in their work, though they did use similarly lethal concoctions.

---

The dead dwarf clutched in his hand a note.

This betrayal will be your last, Zababa.

We know you sold out Tralen.

Run to the ones who you sold your comrade out to.

Run like the dog you are.

We'll be coming for you.

You and all the other dogs in your little ring of informants.

Tralen was a Three Lanterns member caught and executed a week ago based on information from an anonymous tip. Evidently, somebody wasn't too happy about that.

(OOC: And after this response, if you choose to pursue this plot hook, we'll move to another, non-trading thread.)
Uldarious
09-06-2007, 02:32
OOC: whether they are better off or not, being harem girls is probably quite embarrassing on the usually frigid elves, so they'd likely be a lot happier off in their homeland than as concubines. Plus, I'd like to point out that you can't say for sure that none of them are abused.

Chances are that if the Hale elf government wanted to find them, pay a large amount and bring them home, such contact would be possible. I mean, a Valgardian noble can always find more pretty wenches, but he might not necessarily want to annoy a powerful foreign noble.


EDIT: Ninja'd!
The Scandinvans
09-06-2007, 02:50
(OOC: What happens once they're found isn't my problem, though. If Calorginas decides to contract the Three Lanterns, then Halestia will get the information.

Heck, he could decide to have them all assassinated.)

A clatter was heard as the hidden assailant dropped his crossbow, and ran, his job now done.

A black cloaked figure was seen fleeing across the rooftops, dropping down into an alleyway and running into a building.

The pressing matter now was the Sergeant, whose crossbow bolt had also been poisoned. A ranger would be able to tell it was a lethal poison made from various local fungi and was a fairly common commodity among assassins.

They called it 'Silent Death', because it was lethal within mere minutes and cut off their unfortunate victim's control of their vocal cords, preventing them from calling out for help.

In particular, an expert would be able to identify that this was not the work of the Three Lanterns, but rather that of an assassin for hire. They did not use Silent Death in their work, though they did use similarly lethal concoctions.

---

The dead dwarf clutched in his hand a note.



Tralen was a Three Lanterns member caught and executed a week ago based on information from an anonymous tip. Evidently, somebody wasn't too happy about that.

(OOC: And after this response, if you choose to pursue this plot hook, we'll move to another, non-trading thread.)Being of higher Valgardian blood he was able to hold off the posion long enough for a trained military healer to come and adminster the proper treatment against the posion.

Though the assaination had happened the Valgardian forces would simply send in a group of hunters to begin to silently hunt down the assaian group for daring to assualt the military and would kill them silently under the direct order of the governor of the city.

OOC: To say my hunters are a branch of the Rangers trained to find people and kill them silently in urban areas, so they are an effective force to be used and are only on the call of the Emperor, generals, and the more powerful governors.

As well, let us continue the thread outside of this one.:)
Uldarious
09-06-2007, 03:41
OOC: Scan...lets get this straight right now, how many hunters and Rangers do you have? Also I do think it's a bit much that being of higher Valgardian blood enables him to hold off a poison that should kill him in minutes with no side effects, like comatose for a month or something.
Also bear in mine that your cities are supposedly large and multicultural, so finding a single assassin in the night is very unlikely, of course it is likely that you have your own counter-intelligence network that could attempt to find him given a bit of time, it's just an issue of if they would manage it or not, I mean how many mercenaries are you likely to have in a big Valgardian city?
The Scandinvans
09-06-2007, 03:50
OOC: Scan...lets get this straight right now, how many hunters and Rangers do you have? Also I do think it's a bit much that being of higher Valgardian blood enables him to hold off a poison that should kill him in minutes with no side effects, like comatose for a month or something.
Also bear in mine that your cities are supposedly large and multicultural, so finding a single assassin in the night is very unlikely, of course it is likely that you have your own counter-intelligence network that could attempt to find him given a bit of time, it's just an issue of if they would manage it or not, I mean how many mercenaries are you likely to have in a big Valgardian city?OOC: Resist disease and posion is acutally a term to simply mean they have a strong immune system, on the level that they are stronger then humans, as well I never said the poision would not kill him and you have to understand when I say higher Valgardian blood it also means that they also have a very strong will to live and will hold on as long as possible, also to note he never said what type of poision it what so I had to assume it was an agent that was designed to kill people quickly, within half of hour, which is enough time for a healer to come and save him.

To note please move this to the main thread as it is an rp thread not OOC.
Zhyolatska
10-06-2007, 01:37
1 ozol= 1538.47 eri OR 512.82 Drao ((all your coins are amalgams wheras mine are suited for trade, standard units of measurement and all =P, I figured out the value this way, 20 kg of silver =20,000 g of silver, one ozol is equal to 20 kg of silver, so with the Eri containing 13 g of silver I divided 20,000 by 13 and rounded getting 1538.47. Then I divided that by three, as a Drao is thirty days wages, and three times more in worth than an eri, getting 512.82 as the result.

Is this an accurate assumption of exchange worth? if so then the Bayizjed would like to buy
769 agricultural slaves, prime, male, paid for with 6 ozols

we would also like to discuss purchasing slaves fit for service as Yanizvarajed
The Scandinvans
14-06-2007, 02:55
1 ozol= 1538.47 eri OR 512.82 Drao ((all your coins are amalgams wheras mine are suited for trade, standard units of measurement and all =P, I figured out the value this way, 20 kg of silver =20,000 g of silver, one ozol is equal to 20 kg of silver, so with the Eri containing 13 g of silver I divided 20,000 by 13 and rounded getting 1538.47. Then I divided that by three, as a Drao is thirty days wages, and three times more in worth than an eri, getting 512.82 as the result.

Is this an accurate assumption of exchange worth? if so then the Bayizjed would like to buy
769 agricultural slaves, prime, male, paid for with 6 ozols

we would also like to discuss purchasing slaves fit for service as YanizvarajedThe more accurate price would be 9 ozols are the other metals do make a majority of the composition of the coins in order to increase its overall size and also because they make a majority of the coins. Also, the gold in each coin does make up a good chunk of the value of the coin. Once you change your price all shall be in order.;)
Zhyolatska
14-06-2007, 03:11
alright, 9 ozols it is, sorry, don't know how much a metal is worth, which is why my empire uses standard currency 20 kg, 500 g, 12.5 g, so I don't quiteknow the conversion rate, hope you can forgive, and 9 ozols it is
The Scandinvans
14-06-2007, 03:21
alright, 9 ozols it is, sorry, don't know how much a metal is worth, which is why my empire uses standard currency 20 kg, 500 g, 12.5 g, so I don't quiteknow the conversion rate, hope you can forgive, and 9 ozols it isAlright the slaves our yours now and to say my own nation has an odd currency system in order to create a balanced cash system. As well, my nation is so large that my own currency is more geared towards internal trading and trading with countries with trade contacts as some of the lesser border nation and vassal kingdoms have adopted my own currency,
Zhyolatska
14-06-2007, 03:34
1 ozol= 1538.47 eri OR 512.82 Drao if you could give me a more accurate exchange rate than this i'd be really grateful.

again, my currency is:
Ozol- standard unit of wealth, 20 kg of silver

Yajev- 1/40th of an ozol, 500 g silver

Kolya- 1/40th of one yajev, 12.5 g silver
The Scandinvans
14-06-2007, 03:51
1 Ozol= 341.88 Drao, 1025.64 Eri


These are more rough estimate though.
Zhyolatska
14-06-2007, 04:04
so 1 drao = roughly 58.5 grams of silver, and 1 eri = roughly 19.5 grams of silver? gotcha, and thanks
The Scandinvans
14-06-2007, 04:15
so 1 drao = roughly 58.5 grams of silver, and 1 eri = roughly 19.5 grams of silver? gotcha, and thanksYeap, by the way check the diplomatic thread.