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I've taken the liberty of making one for you guys.

Thank god. Could someone tell me if I can land my forces in Kensington to help Praetonian forces out?

Just a wild idea... I have AIM and MSN I could copy and past BL's and Pratoneia [sp, yes I know...] convo... :p

You can land in Kensington. Do you want to? I doubt it. The entire police force is on full alert with an itchy trigger finger and will probably gun down your troops without thinking twice.

AMF already has his own OOC thread...

Map showing the approximate location of the Oxford-Cambridge (Oxbridge) Line (http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8339/linesbng7.png)

The intention is to try to keep under BL civil control all territory north of that line, but failing that efforts will focus on the area between the red and orange lines.

AMF already has his own OOC thread...

Aren't you the Hall monitor... :p

BL, check TGs.

Well, I could land at Triumphe and hide some submarines in the gap between the two islands. Maybe take down a few resupply ships. That sound good?

Aren't you the Hall monitor... :p

HEY YOU! STOP RUNNING! DO YOU HAVE A HALL PASS?

Thank god. Could someone tell me if I can land my forces in Kensington to help Praetonian forces out?

You didnt address your IC message to me, but yes they will be allowed to land at the Praetonian airbase in Kensington/Kensington international airport.

My bad. :D

A big red Soviet tag.

Beth Gellert lacks trade partners since retreating to AMW for so long and re-emerging to find the multiverse devoid of Western Asias and Wazzus and all the good ol' boys that used to build our ships and cities when we weren't inordinately wealthy for a lot of Indian communists. British Londinium's market-socialist and worker-managed economy may be amongst a pretty small minority of those with which our people are willing to do business, and their Prime Minister recently indicated strong support for the Indian revolution.

As such we just might dust off our sabers and refuel our Hobgoblins, and see if any amongst us still remember how to make a trimaran aircraft carrier... go.

...well, we're in the habit of winning fights in AMW (possibly because we keep attacking the French), may as well do something reckless, right? Nine billion people would be too many, anyway =)

BL, as I clearly stated, my troops in Kensington are in tanks, so no your police have not gunned them down.

Ah. Let me correct that.

Thanks. Btw, did you get my TG?

Theoroshia, Kensington is on the north island. I'm attacking the south island.

Thanks. Btw, did you get my TG?

Yep.

I know. I'm setting up an HQ there, and then gathering my units. I am going to send a few Sub Groups to defend the HQ and recon the area in and around Kensington and establish a perimeter, then land on the southern islands.

Map outlining Terrence Control Zone and the Terrence-Oxbridge Air Corridor (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/yargh.png)

Essentially, any refugees which I get under my control will be airlifted to an open airfield up north in Hamp's area for A. improved safety and B. I don't want peasants clogging up my base when there's a war going on. Flights will be escorted by Banshees (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477805) in case anyone wants to be a smartass.

Standard Clandonian Battlefleet:

4x Avenge Class BBN
Aircraft Compliment: 4x F/A 401 Bird of Prey, 4x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

4x Royal Sovereign Class DN
Aircraft Compliment: 4x F/A 401 Bird of Prey, 6x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

4x County Class Aircraft Carriers CVN
Aircraft Compliment: 80x F/A 401 Bird of Prey, 40x F/A-22 Strike Raptor, 10x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

8x Pheasant Class Assault Carrier CVLN
Aircraft Compliment: 36x F/A 401 Bird of Prey, 12x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter RM Marine Compliment: 400x Royal Clandonian Marines

4x Duke-class BTN Battleship
Aircraft Compliment: 2x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

4x Victorious-class Battleship BCN
Aircraft Compliment: 2x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

12x Lion Class Missile Cruiser
Aircraft Compliment: 2x Merlin ASW Transport EH101 Helicopter

8x Danskeran Class Missile Submarine SSBN

20x Praefele Class DDN
Aircraft Compliment: 1x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

30x Minister Class FFN
Aircraft Compliment: 1x Merlin ASW-Transport EH101 Helicopter

Total Number of Vessels: 98


HMS King William VII King George IV Class Super Capital (Flagship)
HMS Cheshire Cat Nelson Class Super Dreadnought

1st Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Saxons'
2nd Expeditionary Battlefleet – ‘Tigers'
3rd Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Burkes'
4th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Hague’s'
5th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Howards'
6th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Chamberlains'
7th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Churchill’s'
8th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Royalists'
9th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Whales'
10th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Bulls'
11th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Plato’s'
12th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Thor’s'
13th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Britons'
14th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Arabians'
15th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Gods'
16th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Lightning’s'
17th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Royalists'
18th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Parliamentarians'
19th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Loyalists'
20th Expeditionary Battlefleet - 'Europan’s'

Total number of ships: 1960


This is what I have in the area, for now they are just unloading marines on request of the Praetonians but if provoked will attack naval forces. I have this number because I was blockading him before the peace talks were resolved but it seems to have all gone array now.

BL, its my intention to land airborne forces at Chelsea and reinforce them by sea. I'd like to do this with local co-operation from your forces and declare the city and the surrounding area under Ollish protection. Any objections?

I found this pic of provinces from BL's NSWiki.

Provinces (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3713/newzealandprovinceszi7.jpg)

Cion and Palatine are the splinter provinces.

BL, its my intention to land airborne forces at Chelsea and reinforce them by sea. I'd like to do this with local co-operation from your forces and declare the city and the surrounding area under Ollish protection. Any objections?

Not a one.

Map outlining Terrence Control Zone and the Terrence-Oxbridge Air Corridor (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/yargh.png)

Essentially, any refugees which I get under my control will be airlifted to an open airfield up north in Hamp's area for A. improved safety and B. I don't want peasants clogging up my base when there's a war going on. Flights will be escorted by Banshees (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477805) in case anyone wants to be a smartass.

Thanks for the drawing, Cravan. Just a note, unless forced to retreat because of an invasion of Northolt, the Oxbridge Line control area extends to the end of the peninsula.

I found this pic of provinces from BL's NSWiki.

Provinces (http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3713/newzealandprovinceszi7.jpg)

Cion and Palatine are the splinter provinces.

Well, if you guys need any military assistance up there I can easily have a few Marine units up there to assist.

EDIT- Yeah, I understand.

Not a one.

Ta. It'll be a quick post as I have to go to bed (3am here!)

Mathism is willing to deploy forces for peacekeeping purposes, just tell me if you need them or not.

From my OOC thread:

BL, things are going to get tricky from here on out, because I don't want to simply keep bulldozing my way in and make it look like I'm godmodding by not giving you a chance to respond. So I'll hold off posting for now, in case there's anything you'd like to do.

Feel free to post, AMF.

Did you just, by mistake, nuke your allies?

Commonwealth Naval Forces en route to Argyll in support of Freekish operations:

8th Battlefleet
9th Battlefleet
10th Battlefleet
11th Battlefleet
12th Battlefleet
13th Battlefleet
14th Battlefleet
15th Battlefleet

Standard Battlefleet

2 Carrier Groups
1 Surface Task Force
2 Submarine Squadrons
1 Amphibious Assault Fleet
2 Supply Fleets

207 ships total
287 vessels total

Standard Carrier Group

2 Glacier Class Aircraft Carriers
2 Carthage Class Air Defense Cruisers
4 Swiftsure Class Destroyers
4 Lionfish Class Missile Frigates
6 Portos Class Catamarans

18 ships total

Standard Surface Task Force

1 Commonwealth Class Dreadnaught
2 Calypso Class Dreadnaughts
2 Torrent Class Arsenal Ships
4 Carthage Class Air Defense Cruisers
4 Swiftsure Class Destroyers
6 Champlain Class Frigates
6 Portos Class Catamarans

25 ships total

Standard Submarine Squadron

6 Spirit Class Submarines
2 Marlin Class Submarine Tenders

8 ships total

Standard Amphibious Assault Fleet

2 Roydia Class Battleships
2 Torrent Class Arsenal Ships
4 Carthage Class Air Defense Cruisers
2 Emden Class Amphibious Assault Ships
2 Shrike Class Helicopter Assault Ships
6 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
8 Champlain Class Frigates
8 Lionfish Class Missile Frigates
4 Perrigon Class Minesweepers
8 Portos Class Catamarans
10 Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships
20 Blitz Class LPD
80 Seasprite Class Air Cushioned Landing Craft

76 ships total
156 vessels total

Standard Supply Fleet

1 Athios Class Light Aircraft Carrier
2 Adari Class Air Defense Destroyers
4 Fredora Class Multipurpose AAW Destroyers
4 Champlain Class Frigates
6 Grevant Class Missile Frigates
10 Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships

27 ships total

Why is this guy always getting the snot beaten out of him?

Why is this guy always getting the snot beaten out of him?
Who?

Who?

BL, presumably. At least in that regard he's well on his way towards becoming the new Hataria.

BL, presumably. At least in that regard he's well on his way towards becoming the new Hataria.

Well AMF gave him a choice to contiue or not and he chose to go on. Plus he has more people defending him then Hataria did in some respect.

Are there any open airports near refugee camps or anywhere planes can land near refugee camps to start getting them out? If you could let me know, that'd be great, thanks.

Caelapene forces mobilizing to BL (if I'm allowed to join, anyway):

1st Aeromarine Regiment
2nd Aeromarine Regiment
1st Naval Brigade
5th Naval Brigade
47th Aeronaval Liaison Group
49th Logistics Regiment

Total Number of Assets

50 French VABs (20 HOT anti-tank configuration, 15 w/ 20mm turrets, 5 w/ 12.7mm turrets)

50 ERC 90 Sagaies

100 French VBLs

25 Leclercs

100 French VBCIs (80 VCI, 20 VPC)

1 de Gaulle-class Aircraft Carrier

30 C-2 Greyhounds

10 Dassault Rafales

10 Duke-class Frigates

20 Academy-class Patrol Ships

Total Crew: 4455
Total Soldiers: 3400

Yep, I'm fucked.

My troops are holed up in their bases, content on letting AMF and the others duke it out.

Here is a list of my bases[lighter dots] and where my fleets are [darker dots]:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/TSSstuff.png

My troops are holed up in their bases, content on letting AMF and the others duke it out.

Here is a list of my bases[lighter dots] and where my fleets are [darker dots]:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/TSSstuff.png

TSS, would you mind lending some ground troops to help me secure Argyll? I'm about to launch an amphibious assault from my battlefleets stationed in the Black Gold Sea.

Caelapene forces mobilizing to BL (if I'm allowed to join, anyway):
[snip]
Where are you headed, north or south island?

Where are you headed, north or south island?

North. I know I have no chance against AMF alone and a chance slimmer than an anorexic model against him even with allies, and many of my troops are going to attempt to evacuate citizens, which really only leaves the north island as an option.

Alright then... If any allied nations of BL have naval forces near the south island, tell me. I want to know if there'll be any opposition to my landing at Argyll.

I have a few subs that are hidden on the east and west of the southern island. About six or seven total on each side.

Alright then... If any allied nations of BL have naval forces near the south island, tell me. I want to know if there'll be any opposition to my landing at Argyll.



Argyll is pretty much under Freekish control by this point.

AMF, as I'm not involved (yet), could you state your nation's IC intentionsregarding BL?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12720276&postcount=79

I got the impression from this post that there are Freekish forces in Kensington, which there aren't, only on the south island. If I misread, my apologies.

Oh. Oops. My mistake. It was meant to mean that the bombers flew from Kensington to Argyll in the south and fired the missiles at your troops down there.

Theoroshia....in your last post, you seem to have me confused with Doomingsland.....

AMF, I have humanitarian planes landing and loading civis in Waddington... just wanted to let you know since you hadn't responded to any posts I had made and I didn't want it to seem like I was god-modding.

ATTENTION FREEKISH, and any nations associated with the British Londinium Invation:


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=528650

AMF, I have humanitarian planes landing and loading civis in Waddington... just wanted to let you know since you hadn't responded to any posts I had made and I didn't want it to seem like I was god-modding.



Humanitarian assets aren't being touched, so feel free.

Humanitarian assets aren't being touched, so feel free.

Alright, we'll just continue loading and stay out of your way then. Just wanted you to be aware.

I expect everyone to not get too far ahead until I post. I work during the days, so I won't be able to get anything up until tomorrow in the late afternoon. I'm off to bed, I hope there aren't 3 more pages of replies and whatnot when I get back.

Since I have so few posts on this account some of my posts are sent to moderators for approval before appearing. As such, I believe this post of mine:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12720416&postcount=81

has been passed over due to the moderation queue thing. Just so you all know, though, I'm not new to NationStates. This is a new nation of mine, my first and now secondary nation is Tannenmille (registered April '05)

Since I have so few posts on this account some of my posts are sent to moderators for approval before appearing. As such, I believe this post of mine:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12720416&postcount=81

has been passed over due to the moderation queue thing. Just so you all know, though, I'm not new to NationStates. This is a new nation of mine, my first and now secondary nation is Tannenmille (registered April '05)

Welcome back Tannenmille! :P

Since I have so few posts on this account some of my posts are sent to moderators for approval before appearing. As such, I believe this post of mine:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12720416&postcount=81

has been passed over due to the moderation queue thing. Just so you all know, though, I'm not new to NationStates. This is a new nation of mine, my first and now secondary nation is Tannenmille (registered April '05)
[OOC: Tis' good to see an old face. Welcome back, Tannenmille.]

BL, did you get my TG?
Are you going to answer?

I can't post anything else until you respond to my TG, which I sent two days ago now.

Oh...

I didn't realize that. I'll have a reply in a minute.

If I may ask a favor of you all, I wish to know which nations are on the Gholgoth side, and the British Londinium side. This information would be most appreciated.

I'm definately not on the BL side of things.

The Indian Soviet Commonwealth of Beth Gellert (AKA Beddgelert, BG just has trouble getting on to the forums, sometimes) is involved for two reasons:

First, and most important, we very much approve of British Londinium's market-socialist and worker-managed economy, and want to see the model spread across the globe, and we need such economies for the sake of trade relations... we're very picky about to whom we sell our wares, and even more picky about buying the product of non-socialised labour.

Second, their Prime Minister recently sent friendly diplomatic feelers towards us, and made what may have been a throw-away remark that none the less struck a chord with Beth Gellert's warrior traditions, promising to defend our society against any attack. Many in BG consider it a matter of honour that we should respond to an attack on theirs, even though we made no promise ourselves.

I'm on my side. :p

So come on AMF, whats the holdup? Why aren't you killing every man woman and child in sight and recording it for a DVD!

So come on AMF, whats the holdup? Why aren't you killing every man woman and child in sight and recording it for a DVD!

Silly matt, we're gonna make a video game! :D These recordings from the war are gonna be used as live action FMVs.

If, when this game comes out, we see a drunken, half naked, two-metre Celt waving a trophy-head in one hand and loosing 6.5mm ammunition in the sky from a rifle in the other, and we don't get royalties... well we'll probably do pretty much nothing about it. Everyone's always hungover after a war.

I think you guys should wait for AMF to show up before going any further. He said he's at work right now.

Can we also cut the ooc chat from the IC thread please.

PROPOSITION



I know that the majority of you are quite protestant about the claimed fact that I am an "FT" nation. In responce to your dualy noted and respected consernse, the following will contain some brief facts of the Toori, and a proposition.


Facts:

1- The Armed Republic of the Toori is an MT/FT nation. MT to the fact that the majority of our main military technologies (not including aeronotics and starships) are geared as late MT technology, i.e., projectile shooting weaponry, and other various resources. FT to the fact that we do have interstellar capabilities, and minimal energy projecting devises. Though it is partialy FT, our FT technology is very simple, and most MT nations are quite capable of obtaining such technology, with little research.

2- Though we are partialy FT, we are by no means invincible. The higher majority of the starships we have in our arsonal do not have shield genorators. Our ships may contain highly powerfull weaponry, but they can be defeated.


Proposition of the Armed Republic of the Toori in accordance to Toorian international policy toward MT or similar to MT nations:

Due to many conserns that the Toori's MT/FT technology will render a higher advantage over MT nations, this proposition has been made in responce to those conserns.

1-ON NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE ARMED REPUBLIC OF THE TOORI USE ANY SHIELD GENERATORS OR ENERGY PROJECTING DEFENCIVE DEVISES ON ANY TOORIAN UNITS OR STRUCTURES.

2-ON NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI USE PROTOSS STARSHIPS OTHER THAN THE FOLLOWING:
-Interceptor class carrier and land based light fighter
-Shuttle transport and battle field relief craft

3-ON NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI DEPLOY SHIPS OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE, WETHER FOR ESCAPE, OR A TACTICAL ADVANTAGE.

4-UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI UTALIZE OUTER ATMOSPHERIC ORBITAL STRIKES

5-UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI REQUEST RE-INFORCEMENTS FROM ANY FORCES OUTSIDE THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE

6 UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI REQUEST ANY RE-INFORCEMENTS FROM ANYWHERE OTHER THAN THE FOLLOWING NATIONS:
-Any allied Sovereign League nations
-The Reconaissance Island Toorian Colony

7-UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI USE A NUMBER OF UNITS GREATER THAN 90% OF THE GHOLGOTH UNIT POPULACE.

8-UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE TOORI UTALIZE ENERGY BASED WEAPONS, OR WEAPONS OFFILIATED WITH "FT" TECHNOLOGY.

9-UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL THE PROTOSS OF THE TOORI UTALIZE THEIR PSIONIC POWERS FOR ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN COMMUNICATION

10-UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL ANY TOORIAN STARSHIPS CLIMB ABOVE THE FOLLOWING DESIGNATED ALTITUDE:
-1000ft. ASL (Above Sea Level)

NOTICE: THE ARMED REPUBLIC OF THE TOORI HAS NO NAUTICAL MEANS OF MILITARY FORCE.

NOTICE: ONLY TWO CLASSES OF THE MOST PRIMITIVE TOORIAN SHIPS SHALL BE UTALIZED. THEIR CLASSES, DESCRIPTIONS, AND STATISTICS SHALL LATER FOLLOW.
_________________________________________________________________
I graciously hope those terms can be accepted.

I'm still not going for that.

The thing is, though, I don't acknowledge FT in MT for story purposes. I mean honestly, if a nation your size had all this great technology, then by all means my nation or even larger nations should be interstellar superpowers. Although your terms are fair, FT in an MT/Low-PMT setting just makes no sense to me.

Plus I have an FT version of my own nation, which mostly uses PMT weaponry save for FTL drives. (essentially the bastard child of BF2142 and Battlestar Galactica (the new one)) So it might mess up the continuity which links my FT and my MT nations.

The only time I ever acknowledged an FT power in an MT setting was during an Area 51/Roswell-esque RP where the super-secret government agencies made contact with crashed ET's. That thread has since died, mostly due to my lack of time when it was going on.

But meh, that's just my opinion.

Toori, I want you to know that I'm going to ignore your involvement in this thread because you refuse to be MT. I'm not buying into any über-powerful ships, or lasers, or whatever-the-hell-else FT has.

I'm still not going for that.

Then this is the part where you be a little more helpfull, and suggest more propositions for me to add that would appeal. No offence intended, but I am not basing my involvement in this RP on one nations descision. I wish to hear other oppinions.

Then this is the part where you be a little more helpfull, and suggest more propositions for me to add that would appeal. No offence intended, but I am not basing my involvement in this RP on one nations descision. I wish to hear other oppinions.

This is MT. No FT stuff. Very simple rule.

Here's a suggestion:

Drop any, and all, references to FT. Including the fact your nation is composed of Protoss.

This might make people consider rp'ing with you.

Here's a suggestion:

Drop any, and all, references to FT. Including the fact your nation is composed of Protoss.

This might make people consider rp'ing with you.

That suggestion does have merit, however, I wouldn't change my nations core history just for the sake of conforming to an RP. However, in responce to other suggestions recently mentioned, I will herby modify my proposition by adding another. The editing shall commence shortly.

That suggestion does have merit, however, I wouldn't change my nations core history just for the sake of conforming to an RP.

Then you should probably not take part in the RP.

Here's a suggestion:

Drop any, and all, references to FT. Including the fact your nation is composed of Protoss.

This might make people consider rp'ing with you.

To be fair, being human doesn't seem to be an absolute necessity. Isn't one of the Ghogolthian nations involved made up of some sort of large furry creature? I'm sure I recognize them from somewhere, but can't think of where.

My proposal has been edited with the addition of proposal # 8-9. Please read the proposal once more as the diliberation continues.

Good point..Consider the part about changing his species dropped, but the point about mixing mt and ft still remains.

Nope. Not going to cut it.

There can't be a single FT reference if you want to RP in this thread.

Nope. Not going to cut it.

There can't be a single FT reference if you want to RP in this thread.

Seconded

Has my relief ship been granted to enter BL waters.

Nope. Not going to cut it.

There can't be a single FT reference if you want to RP in this thread.

So, are you ignoring the large furry creatures?

The Charr, I believe?

Yes. They've gotten permission to enter.

Good point..Consider the part about changing his species dropped, but the point about mixing mt and ft still remains.

I agree that the Toori's use of starships may seem quite unfair, and intimidating for that matter, however, I ask you think of it this way:

-All of the MT nations participating have nautical warships, yet have no starcraft.
-The Toori has starcraft (of which we will only use within the atmosphere) , however, has no nautical warships and no means of fighting on the sea.
-Toori armament of the starships being used (which shall be few, and later noted) only consist of a few different variations of MT tech arsonal. These weapons can still be extremely effective and distructive.
- All of the MT nautical warships of the nations participating have just as devastating MT technology, only they have far mor variations and applications of their weaponry.
- For the most part, the only advantage the Toori ships have over the other nations MT nautical warships is their all terrain ability,i.e., their ability of flight. In compensation for this, I shall limit this ability by once again editing my proposition.

For the sake of etique and my reputation I will not answer the FT persons calls, if they want to RP become MT no mixing.

No propositions or whatnot. Either you're MT or not. Get over it.

Very well. Do all other nations on the Sovereign League and Gholgoth concure with this?

BL, just in case you miss the post, I sent about 5000 doctors and 100 billion USD your way >>.

I concur with the whole no FT thing, especially since I'm in the thread. I don't care what side I'm on... anything flying that looks remotely like a spacecraft would freak my pilots out and end up having them attack it/crash into each other/faint/die, etc. So yeah, no FT period.

You do not listen well, do you? There is a solid rule of no FT in MT.

Period.

Zilch.

Nada.

You can say all you want about how it is "equal" but it ain't. These nations have to spend billions of dollars to send a bulky spacecraft out of orbit; you do it without breaking a sweat.

Big divide much? Also, having FT kinda ruins the rp, as all nations have to worry about this giant OMGWTFPWNBBGLOL ships in space which can bombard the crap out of them.

Yes, bombardment. FT smokes the crap out of MT in technology. Yes, MT can fight it, but at heavy losses. Losses that people don't want to take UNLESS they want said confrontation.

So, as everyone has said, make an MT nation. No FT.

For the sake of precious time, and that I have other work to do, it seems this RP is more hassle than it is worth for me, though it would have been a privilage fighting against the warrior nations of Gholgoth, and a learing experience. If there are no further objections to this, I hearby withdraw the Armed Republic of the Toori from this RP, rendering any previous posts, negotiations, or dealings with any of the other countries participating: VOID.


Good day, and good fare with the RP.

About time too.

About time too.

OOC: Dude, fuck off. All I was trying to do was help you get your land back. And yes, I did persist for a long time, but I was trying to weaken my forces enough so that you could accept my help, and after you getting your land back we could trade. Yeah you did give a few suggestions, but even from the start when I was still being as respectfull as possible, you've been a bitch to me non-stop, not just with the posts, but sending me telegrams saying how much you hope I get my ass kicked. At least I tried to be respectfull.

OOC: Don't flame.You don't need to do that.

OOC: Dude, fuck off. All I was trying to do was help you get your land back. And yes, I did persist for a long time, but I was trying to weaken my forces enough so that you could accept my help, and after you getting your land back we could trade. Yeah you did give a few suggestions, but even from the start when I was still being as respectfull as possible, you've been a bitch to me non-stop, not just with the posts, but sending me telegrams saying how much you hope I get my ass kicked. At least I tried to be respectfull.

Flame much? It's a game dude, easy. I'll admit, I've lost my cool before too, but there's no reason to. It's an online simulation for christ's sake.

OOC: Dude, fuck off. All I was trying to do was help you get your land back. And yes, I did persist for a long time, but I was trying to weaken my forces enough so that you could accept my help, and after you getting your land back we could trade. Yeah you did give a few suggestions, but even from the start when I was still being as respectfull as possible, you've been a bitch to me non-stop, not just with the posts, but sending me telegrams saying how much you hope I get my ass kicked. At least I tried to be respectfull.

Stop flaming and guys, AMF is only on the South island, he isn't on the North so theres no point of going after him there.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6554/blzq2copyeu4.jpg

Flame much? It's a game dude, easy. I'll admit, I've lost my cool before too, but there's no reason to. It's an online simulation for christ's sake.

Sorry about that. I know it wasn't nessicary, but after all I went through and the time I spent trying to find a way to help him get his land back, all he does is tell me how much he wants to see my ass get kicked. I sure as hell aint gonna put up with him rubbing it in my face. Please pardon my flaming.

Stop flaming and guys, AMF is only on the South island, he isn't on the North so theres no point of going after him there.

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/6554/blzq2copyeu4.jpg

Who's going after him on the north island? If you're referring to my post, my 1 guy left Waddington and is flying towards the south island trying to communicate with the Freeks... but he is heading towards the south island, not the north one.

Who's going after him on the north island? If you're referring to my post, my 1 guy left Waddington and is flying towards the south island trying to communicate with the Freeks... but he is heading towards the south island, not the north one.

AMF ain't on the North island, me and Praetonia have a good naval force there, crossing it would be suicide.

AMF ain't on the North island, me and Praetonia have a good naval force there, crossing it would be suicide.

I KNOW AMF isn't on the north island... that's what I just said. And my one guy is in an unarmed interceptor, broadcasting in the clear his intentions... oh, just read the post, it's all there. Hopefully no one will shoot him down... yet.

I say - BL, AMF. Is there froom in this here RP for a reporter to make some completely unbiased reports of the AMF massacre...I mean, 'liberation' of Eurasia? It'll be Trander Utah reporting...I believe AMF might be familiar with him and his brand of reporting...

EDIT: It'll be the same hugely biased anti-AMF reporting as before, but Utah would also be a character reporting from Eurasia; he'd be a nice bit of comic relief in an otherwise rather grim thread, if it's allowed.

I'm fine with it. Most of my posts have just been news bulletins.

So, where would my troops be most useful? It appears that, based on the map, both Triumphe and Kensington are port cities that my troops could dock at, and given the fact that many of my troops are there for humanitarian aid, it might be best to have my troops dock at Triumphe and ferry soldiers to Kensington and citizens from the other cities to Triumphe via plane.

I'm fine with it. Most of my posts have just been news bulletins.

Excellent. Expect the hilariously anti-Golgath, pro-anyone-who-pays-me Mr Utah to land in BL shortly.

Can anyone post the BL political map here? Imageshack has not been working for me lately, so I have been unable to check the map and prepare my actions.

http://img.waffleimages.com/99fae01239ad62d94def7f5fcd155462dacc9b35/blzq2copyeu4.jpg

You might have to copy-paste the URL into a new window as Waffleimages only works on Something Awful.

Nope, that's not working.

just hit refresh once you click the link

http://img.waffleimages.com/99fae01239ad62d94def7f5fcd155462dacc9b35/blzq2copyeu4.jpg

You might have to copy-paste the URL into a new window as Waffleimages only works on Something Awful.

Nope, that's not working.

My army is win.

My army is win.

When they made your officers, they broke the mold.

Erm UK2, he doesn't need a reason to kill them as the BL government doesn't really exist.

Aequatio just stop.My soldiers are peacekeepers and I keep on telling you BL told us to give out aid there and everyone knows that because they saw it.BL told me I can land there.

Aequatio just stop.My soldiers are peacekeepers and I keep on telling you BL told us to give out aid there and everyone knows that because they saw it.BL told me I can land there.

Aequatio isn't BL.

I know that.Where do you see me saying Aequatio is BL.

I know that.Where do you see me saying Aequatio is BL.

You're saying Aequatio can't do something because BL said something else.

No i'm not.I'm saying from Bl frist because first bL sends me here then Aequatio tells me to leave so I'm just waiting for BL to come online sort out this thing.

No i'm not.I'm saying from Bl frist because first bL sends me here then Aequatio tells me to leave so I'm just waiting for BL to come online sort out this thing.

He's ICly tring to get you to back down.

UK2, I'm not in any way controlling your troops. I just gave them literal permission to be there.

TWSP: I posted the map in the IC thread.

No i'm not.I'm saying from Bl frist because first bL sends me here then Aequatio tells me to leave so I'm just waiting for BL to come online sort out this thing.

It's called the Fog of War. BL has just been approving nations left and right, and not all of them know of each others efforts. Right now, despite your nations history with BL, you could just be a freelancer trying to get some easy land.

ORBAT:

103,200 infantry
6,075 V1 Panther MBTs
1,308 Behemoth III SHBTs
2,160 PzH-2000 self-propelled howitzers
1,080 M270 MLRS
540 M777 howitzers
1,000 Ka-50 attack helicopters
Various jeeps, trucks, choppers, etc.

300 F/A-401 Bird of Prey
150 F/A-501 Blizzard
150 F-119 Banshee
Various transport, refueling, and AWACs aircraft

These will be deployed somewhere between St. Andrews and Mogenasque, if that's ok, BL.

Go right ahead.

Prolly a good idea for people to post where their forces are:

Mine are generally spread out amoung my bases in BL, mostly staying south of the province that Newcastle is in.

Mine are just off shore of Waddington, and flying in and out of the city, evac-ing civis. I also have a lone, unarmed plane flying towards to the AMF forces, broadcasting in the clear to talk with them.

The Aeronavy is moving along the coast past Sandhurst towards Triumphe. I'm making a post detailing that right now, actually.

Map of Hamptonian forces location (http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8090/oxbridgemapgc7.png)

The pink area is the safehaven area I've established with Royal Armed Forces personnel stationed throughout. I also have a ~400 ship Royal Navy task force stationed at several points along the peninsula's coast.

Dammit... I would have preferred if the RP hadn't progressed so quickly. I'm not on as much as most of you.

Auto, if Argyll's under your control, I'll just use it as a staging point for my fleets. Scratch the amphibious assault.

Operation: STALWART KNIGHT Order of Battle

Aequatian Republic Army

- 2nd Battalion, 1st Special Combat Applications Regiment (Airborne)
- 1st Brigade, 4th Infantry Division (Light) [24x M343 155mm Field Howitzers]
- Light Helicopter Battalion, 4th Brigade, 4th Infantry Division (Light) [32x UH-96A Jaguar Utility Helicopters]
- Transport Helicopter Battalion, 4th Brigade, 4th Infantry Division (Light) [12x CH-47Z Chinook Transport Helicopters]

Aequatian Republic Air Force

48x F-28A Black Eagle Air Superiority/Strike Fighters
12x BA-74A Arrow Light Tactical Bombers
12x B-12A Vanquisher High-speed Strategic Bombers
1x E-14A Capricorn Multi-Sensor Command and Control Aircraft
1x E-14B Capricorn SIG/ELINT Surveillance Aircraft
2x E-14C Capricorn Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircraft
2x AC-130Y Spectre III Aerial Gunships
1x EC-130Q Commando Solo Psychological Operations Aircraft
6x MC-130Q Eagle Talon Special Operations Aircraft

Dammit... I would have preferred if the RP hadn't progressed so quickly. I'm not on as much as most of you.


Indeed! I remember things being much easier when I was in the northern hemisphere! I think that I slept through ten pages or somethin, and now I'm trying to catch up in a few minutes at an internet cafe =/

FFS Keep OOC out of the IC thread guys.

Indeed! I remember things being much easier when I was in the northern hemisphere! I think that I slept through ten pages or somethin, and now I'm trying to catch up in a few minutes at an internet cafe =/

Beddgelert, you've landed your forces at Cambridge which is in the heart of the "Oxbridge Line" zone. My forces are already there and their specific made is too keep everyone save BL out of the area. Now it may have just been an oversight by you, but if you actually feel like landing at Cambridge you would at least be facing some serious questions from several thousand soldiers and several hundred warships.

Aequatio killing peacekeepers? Perfect... just perfect...

*notes down in propaganda book*

Beddgelert, you've landed your forces at Cambridge which is in the heart of the "Oxbridge Line" zone. My forces are already there and their specific made is too keep everyone save BL out of the area. Now it may have just been an oversight by you, but if you actually feel like landing at Cambridge you would at least be facing some serious questions from several thousand soldiers and several hundred warships.

Well, we declared our approach and intent well in advance, and got no complaint, so continued on. The Soviet plan at this stage is merely to reinforce defenders on the north island, nothing more, in alliance with the government of British Londinium. If you want to sit quietly until we come ashore and then start firing on the red flag that's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem justified or terribly wise. All we're going to do is augment pro-BL defences and then move south to do the same elsewhere. If you want to object IC it might not be too late for a minor retcon in which the WIGs turn out to come ashore further south than Cambridge, but at this stage the Soviet Commonwealth has no objection to working with your forces so long as they respect any surviving facet of BL democracy and market-socialism.

What shall I do? Carry on peacefully as planned, come under fire without warning from the line and decide in the heat of the moment whether to withdraw under fire or unleash tens of thousands of cruise missiles (we have 480 SSGNs in theatre amongst other assets), or pretend that we got a communication at the last minute requesting that we land elsewhere? I'm easy, really.

My forces are currently in the city of Chelsea and the surrounding area (shown in orange)

http://www.freewebs.com/colonyofollieland/rplinks.htm

Indian Soviet forces at this time are approaching from the northwest, looking to land on the north island to make it absolutely secure against foreign aggression. The main fleet is not far from Northolt, making slowly southeast down the coast. The WIGs are trying to land, which will be sorted out with the other defenders, soon enough, I hope.

Our contribution, with corrections to my original post since I dug up the stats on my WIGs and carriers and replaced guess work with actual calculations.

-100 India Class trimaran CV
-60 Nibiru Class LPH
-100 Hyaendae Class LPD

-480 Anunkai Class SSGN
-160 Ortiagon Class AIP SSG

-5 Utopia Class BB
-100 Chainmail Class CG
-400 Gauntlet Class DDG
-300 Bodkin Class FF
-125 Gujarat Class FFL

-60 Restoration Class submarine tenders
-120 Brompton Class oilers
-150 Benefactor Class ammunition ships
-100 Verix Class combat stores ships
-50 Palaemon Class heavy support ships
-20 Ysbyty Class hospital ships

-20 Red Dragon Class strategic-grade WIG
-100 Dwrgi Class large tactical-grade WIG

-2,830 helicopters
-4,920 air-superiority & strike fighters

-155,000 Soviet Marines and Gelert Sentinels

Mainly just wanted to update those stats.

I have been asked by my NATO colleagues to contribute a naval contingent to the joint operations on the southern island, specifically as a counter to Ollieland's significant contribution to... well, whatever it is he's contributing his forces to (I'm still trying to read through all his posts.) So, I'm asking BL to allow me to join the thread.

Hope I didn't take any liberties in my post, BL - or you, AMF. I just needed the aircraft and the soldiers for setting the scene. Don't worry about Utah; he'll just wander around, shooting ineffectively at things and making crass and belligerant anti-Golgoth speeches.

Order of battle for an Expeditionary Fleet

FlagDiv (1 Gehenna SDV)
BatRon (6 Halcyon SD)
CarRon (4 Morrigan CVAN, 2 Macha CVN)
BatCruRon (6 Tench BCGN)
CruRon (6 Galicia CAN, 6 Alexander I Larsen CGN, 6 Sagittaire CKN)
CruRon (6 Galicia CAN, 6 Alexander I Larsen CGN, 6 Sagittaire CKN)
DesRon (6 Minotaur DDAN, 6 Osiris DDGN, 6 Morningstar DDKN)
DesRon (6 Minotaur DDAN, 6 Osiris DDGN, 6 Morningstar DDKN)
DesRon (6 Minotaur DDAN, 6 Osiris DDGN, 6 Morningstar DDKN)
SupRon (18 Clan Grant ACEN)
SubRon (18 Svaerd SSN)

No nukes, NATO. They completely ruin the thread.

WMD's of all sorts, inluding bio/chem weapons, are pretty shitty and make for poor reading, in my opinion. I agree: No nukes.

Order of battle for an Expeditionary Fleet

FlagDiv (1 Gehenna SDV)
BatRon (6 Halcyon SD)
CarRon (4 Morrigan CVAN, 2 Macha CVN)
BatCruRon (6 Tench BCGN)
CruRon (6 Galicia CAN, 6 Alexander I Larsen CGN, 6 Sagittaire CKN)
CruRon (6 Galicia CAN, 6 Alexander I Larsen CGN, 6 Sagittaire CKN)
DesRon (6 Minotaur DDAN, 6 Osiris DDGN, 6 Morningstar DDKN)
DesRon (6 Minotaur DDAN, 6 Osiris DDGN, 6 Morningstar DDKN)
DesRon (6 Minotaur DDAN, 6 Osiris DDGN, 6 Morningstar DDKN)
SupRon (18 Clan Grant ACEN)
SubRon (18 Svaerd SSN)

Do you have a link to stats for those at all?

OOC: The World Soviet Party, are you on BLs side? If so, I am moving my forces to Monegasque as well to secure the area. If you are, can my troops stop and resupply there? If not, I guess I have to attack you.


Please delete your post, the thread will rapidly be filled if OOC is posted. I will not be happy with TWSP there, thats all I can say.

Do you have a link to stats for those at all?


Yes, of course. I'll have to dig them up, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Yes, of course. I'll have to dig them up, but that shouldn't be a problem.

Ta. All my naval hardwear can be found at the Portland Iron Works

Well, we declared our approach and intent well in advance, and got no complaint, so continued on. The Soviet plan at this stage is merely to reinforce defenders on the north island, nothing more, in alliance with the government of British Londinium. If you want to sit quietly until we come ashore and then start firing on the red flag that's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem justified or terribly wise. All we're going to do is augment pro-BL defences and then move south to do the same elsewhere. If you want to object IC it might not be too late for a minor retcon in which the WIGs turn out to come ashore further south than Cambridge, but at this stage the Soviet Commonwealth has no objection to working with your forces so long as they respect any surviving facet of BL democracy and market-socialism.

What shall I do? Carry on peacefully as planned, come under fire without warning from the line and decide in the heat of the moment whether to withdraw under fire or unleash tens of thousands of cruise missiles (we have 480 SSGNs in theatre amongst other assets), or pretend that we got a communication at the last minute requesting that we land elsewhere? I'm easy, really.


I have no objections to working with any forces, but it would be easier if you did retcon your force landing south of the line. With an RP like this, even with active reading it can be difficult to keep track of what everyone's doing.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/Forcedeployments.png

I miss anyone?

I've got a large fleet near yours, TSS, off the coast near Manchester. I've fortified the city to be my Op-base, so the bulk of my troops are in and around there.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/Forcedeployments.png

I miss anyone?

Excellent map, dude.

Well, we declared our approach and intent well in advance, and got no complaint, so continued on. The Soviet plan at this stage is merely to reinforce defenders on the north island, nothing more, in alliance with the government of British Londinium. If you want to sit quietly until we come ashore and then start firing on the red flag that's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem justified or terribly wise. All we're going to do is augment pro-BL defences and then move south to do the same elsewhere. If you want to object IC it might not be too late for a minor retcon in which the WIGs turn out to come ashore further south than Cambridge, but at this stage the Soviet Commonwealth has no objection to working with your forcesso long as they respect any surviving facet of BL democracy and market-socialism.

What shall I do? Carry on peacefully as planned, come under fire without warning from the line and decide in the heat of the moment whether to withdraw under fire or unleash tens of thousands of cruise missiles (we have 480 SSGNs in theatre amongst other assets), or pretend that we got a communication at the last minute requesting that we land elsewhere? I'm easy, really.


I would most likely consider landing farther south. As is, the Oxbridge Line's purpose is to keep foreign forces out and serve as a haven for fleeing civilians, and landing 150,000 plus troops in the center of it would not be appreciated by my own or Hamptonshire's peacekeeping forces. My apologies on missing your approach post, the excessive number of people climbing on the roleplay has made it rather hard to completely understand what is happening.


BL:I would seriously considering at least approving, or blocking additional nations from joining the roleplay. It will do nothing aside from worsen if you continue to let people join in the mess. (Speaking specifically in reference to UK2, TWSP, etc).

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/Forcedeployments.png

I miss anyone?

My forces are deployed out of Kensington (Terrence AFB) and are just outside Newcastle.

Ta. All my naval hardware can be found at the Portland Iron Works

About that. I've looked around his storefront and I can't seem to find most of your gear. I found a couple classes in the decommed part of the storefront, but most of your stuff isn't showing up. Which version of the storefront are you talking about?

This thread is simply moving too fast. Some of you guys need to calm down and WAIT for me to respond before moving too far ahead.

This RP is now closed, and people are going to be asked to leave. This thread is a cluster fuck, and I'm not going to have it.

I'd really like to see a few people retconned out, simply for the difficulty they've brought to the entire roleplay by now.

I've got a nice mass of submarines moving towards the winchester area... posted it in another thread though...

There we go... the larger submarine group is the one that's headed towards BL (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12724710&postcount=4)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/Forcedeployments.png

That should be everyone important.

BL, what's the scale on this map of yours?

BL, what's the scale on this map of yours?

It's New Zealand I believe

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/68157Silver/Forcedeployments.png

That should be everyone important.

Prae's deployment has him in Sandhurst, IIRC.

Prae's deployment has him in Sandhurst, IIRC.

He might be, I will ask him on IRC but me and him are definatly in the capital and its surrounding area and I'm now doing my advancing post to seize St. Andrews.

Prae's deployment has him in Sandhurst, IIRC.

Done!, refresh again >.>

It's New Zealand I believe

Might be the shape of New Zealand, but that says nothing about the scale. I've read the two land masses referred to as continents.

It's three times the size of New Zealand.

Sooo... now that BL's government is quitting... what ever will happen?

Soviet forces are in no mood to quit without having joined battle, and will sponsor any and all resistance on the north. So far as we can see the north island hasn't been touched by AMF et al, and we see no reason why they should ever have a chance of getting ashore.

Indian Soviet forces are prepared to meet Gholgoth's whenever they try to assault the northern island, and can't see any cause for even guessing that we'd be dislodged from the coast, let alone for surrendering up front.

What I wonder is... will BL's citizens on the northern island all accept surrender to a genocidal enemy? Won't some, you know, worry that it might be a stupid idea? And try to resist, given that nations like BG are prepared to defend them a bit better than their own inept government ever did? Won't they be happy to join our Sovietist militias, and fight under our ABM shields?

I honestly can't see why the citizens of the north would surrender at this point, any more than the citizens of Paris would surrender to Bismarck in 1871. Rappeler la Commune de Paris!

BL submitted, therefore all his holdings on the north island are under my protective control.

Beddgelert, I would kindly ask you not to do this. You're in an untenable position whether you see it or not. If you don't leave as requested it's going to get ugly for you.

Well, BL's government may have submitted... has submitted, but my questions still stand.

The northern island is still crawling with hundreds of thousands of defensive forces. It has untouched Soviet forces, capitalist defensive lines, and the citizenry of BL by the hundreds of millions.

All we've had so far is the BL government packing it in. Again, my prior post's questions stand.

To answer your query, that is for BL to decide. If he wants all his citizens to accept the government surrender, then so be it.

All forces resisting Gholgothic/NATO forces should stand down at this point and either surrender or prepare to withdraw, any resistance will not only hurt your cause but also the citizens of Eurasia.

The northern island is still crawling with hundreds of thousands of defensive forces. It has untouched Soviet forces, capitalist defensive lines, and the citizenry of BL by the hundreds of millions.

Neither Hamp nor Willink are going to stay and that's a large chunk of the "capitalist defensive lines." I'm pretty sure Prae and Clan will decline to fight a land war as well. So, basically, that leaves you and a couple other insignificant participants. As for whether or not BL citizens on the north island will fight, well, even if they do there are ways to deal with that.

Indeed. So that doesn't help much, eh. We're still waiting for that response, as we were when I first asked the question =)

I'm just hoping that there might be, yet, a touch of realism in all this random violence, and the citizens of the north island, given the established climate of civil disobedience, might have something to say about the surrender. As I implied, previously, this situation looks almost exactly like the war of 1871, only without the defeated side's initial aggression.

The French/BL government has capitulated almost without a fight, but the citizenry has massive motivation for rejecting that. The German/AMF invader has committed massive atrocity against the populace, with none in the north island/Paris having any cause to assume they'll get any better. The northerners/Parisians have the means and motivation to resist despite governmental orders.

Looks to me like a northern (Parisian) resistance movement is sure to attempt to take power to refute the surrender, to be backed by Indian Soviet (National Guard) forces, and to be attacked by collaborationist government (Thiers's) forces wanting to enforce a surrender to AMF (Bismarck).

I almost wonder if someone was reading about that particular war and decided to just copy it =/

I'll withdraw once the BL goverment officially dismisses me, since I am there under his request.

I'll withdraw once the BL goverment officially dismisses me, since I am there under his request.

The BL government has surrendered, thus placing the nation under Gholgothic control, you'll leave when WE dismiss you.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12726728&postcount=219

I was asked to write this by AMF on behalf of Gholgoth and NATO. Basically, it ICly says that all forces on BL-owned territory that aren't part of Gholgoth/NATO/GASN are illegally occupying Freekish land and should leave immediately.

So, essentially, you've all been dismissed, and staying is up to and including an act of war against Automagfreek.

So...does this mean that Trander Utah has to leave, despite all my hard work and writing?

So...does this mean that Trander Utah has to leave, despite all my hard work and writing?

Meh, I spent a couple of days getting my lads over there, I'm not pulling them out without some IC questions being resolved. If you've done some worthwhile writing, push it until someone takes some kind of notice, or there's no point having these threads in the first place.

So...does this mean that Trander Utah has to leave, despite all my hard work and writing?

If he's not a military presence (he's a newsman, right?) I don't think he falls under the category of what I was addressing. It's up to AMF whether he decides to IC boot him out, of course - I don't even have troops on the ground - but I would probably be willing to work with it.

Especially since you mentioned using him as comic relief. We could all use some, I think.

FFS keep the OOC in here please!

Does NATO/Gholgoth want all humanitarian missions out as well? I wasn't sure, so I'm asking before I post.

Though not the head of NATO (wait for official word from SS or AMF), I would say humanitarian missions can stay, at least for now. Really, all we want to leave right now are military forces.

Ambrose-Douglas: Not to my knowledge, no. I'm a NATO member-state myself, and I personally would help vacate civilians, but damned RL issues (like my IGCSEs) and I've other IC matters to attend to, like the Second War of Corporatist Aggression.

Halberdgardia: Good to see you back again. Oh, and telegram responses, please! Sorry I can't help out much...

Hamptonshire and Willink: Same to you two, damned RL and other matters...

In a rush and having internet troubles, but I just wanted to say to Artitsa that most of the Indian Soviet fleet is not in the channel but west of the island, hundreds of kilometres further off. Some submarines are there, and WIG machines frequent the south coast, but I'm not sure if you want to bother missing them with thousands of missiles and eliciting a counter-strike. As such I haven't RP'd your missiles crashing into the sea, and just assumed that you're approaching and realising that most Soviet fleet assets are further west, behind the bulk of the island.

We still have shore assets you can hit if you choose, but they're already grumbling about the placid acceptance by the citizens of their sorry situation, and Soviet India will be abandoning BL shortly unless something happens to keep us here. And you can shoot at the WIGs, but since they'll just fly off it seems that a missile storm on the scale suggested would be a waste, so, yeah, that's why I didn't address it directly (aircraft could get at them, with a big fight, but I couldn't just assume that you'd have done that instead).

Anyway, have to dash.

Force F
3x Nagato Class Battleship
1x Hiei Class Battlecruiser
3x Hiryu Class Fleet Carrier
6x Valiant Class Battleship
10x Conqueror Class Light Carrier
7x County Class Heavy Cruiser
10x Mogami Class Air Defence Cruiser
30x Hayasake Class Heavy Destroyers
10x Shirune Class Light Destroyers
12x FRT.39 Class Fleet Support Ship
2x FRT.52 Class Carrier Support Ship

Force H (5 IC days away)
10x Nagato Class Battleship
6x Hiei Class Battlecruiser
12x Valiant Class BB
2x Shokaku Class Superheavy Carrier
24x Hiryu Class Fleet Carrier
50x Conqueror Class Light Carrier
100x Colony Class Helicopter Carrier
100x County Class Heavy Cruiser
12x Myoko Class Command Cruiser
50x Mogami Class Air Defence Cruiser
450x Hayasake Class Heavy Destroyer
450x Shirune Class Light Destroyer
60x Shark Class Fast Destroyer
40x FRT.39 Class Fleet Support Ship
12x FRT.52 Class Carrier Support Ship

WIGs can still be taken out with SSMs... unless you're refering to the absurd amount of missiles he launched.

HAY TSS Y U NAME A SHIP AFTER NYAMO??

Anyway, my reinforcements are arrivingin 5 days, but they might be bolstered later on.

WIGs can still be taken out with SSMs... unless you're refering to the absurd amount of missiles he launched.

Mh, I assumed that missiles designed to his ships doing less than forty knots would struggle against aircraft doing a couple of hundred and able to climb and such if they feel like it.

I dunno, I haven't RP'd much in mainstream NS since, er, 2003 or something, and things were quite different back then. The biggest nations being akin to RL China and India meant that technology and weapon spam were different things. Some of the ships and missiles I'm seeing in this RP seem pretty far out to me, but I don't like to criticise when I'm out of the loop and inclined to assume that most people here know what they're doing. It seems to me that launching X-thousand missiles in a wave is just impractical, submerging arsenal ships with thousands of huge long-range missiles aboard are far-fetched, and million tonne warships bizarre, but I wouldn't feel confident criticising. Might stick to over-land campaigns and AMW in future!

Anyway, Artitsa, hey, OOC thread over here [waves arms].

And thus ends BL, I guess. No matter who wins or loses in the end, he'll have had Gholgoth nations occupying and fighting over him for a while... I wouldn't want to be his civilians. :/

I'd send aid, but AMF has positively frigid relations with Axis Nova at best IC so it probably wouldn't be let in.

HAY TSS Y U NAME A SHIP AFTER NYAMO??

Anyway, my reinforcements are arrivingin 5 days, but they might be bolstered later on.

I had to, just to make you mad :D

So I sort of have to ask: Now what?

So I sort of have to ask: Now what?

You should've thought of that beforehand :p

Now you either wait it out, RP an occuption, and/or revolt against AMF.

Since some people insist on continuing the fight, I guess this thread is going to be alive for awhile longer....

or revolt against AMF.

:D

Since some people insist on continuing the fight, I guess this thread is going to be alive for awhile longer....

But poor BL won't be. :(

What idiot is continuing on the fight?

What idiot is continuing on the fight?



Beddgellert is still coming, and Questers is sending some ships.

Oh, it all depends on what happens to Prae's bases.

Oh, it all depends on what happens to Prae's bases.

From what I read into it, Prae just continued evacuating his bases after the ceasefire the same way he'd been doing from the very beginning. I could be way off, though.

From what I read into it, Prae just continued evacuating his bases after the ceasefire the same way he'd been doing from the very beginning. I could be way off, though.
[OOC: I think that may have been the post where he was getting all the one-of-a-kind artifacts, Praetonian-made or otherwise, and bringing them away to help protect them, like what the KMT did when they fled to Formosa, also known as Taiwan...though like that RL event it could be described as theft. Then again, like you, I could be incorrect...Prae's having his A-Level exams, and my own IGCSE exams end on June 14 (History Paper 2). Good luck Prae!]

I want to know why TSS says that he never will "trust me to control a military", considering I barely waged war in the first place.

I want to know why TSS says that he never will "trust me to control a military", considering I barely waged war in the first place.

Your control of the military caused the war in the first place, AMF would have never invaded you had you 1) not tried to go against the SL/me/whyatica in international politics and 2) not surround my bases.

There's also the not-so-thinly-veiled threats. You're on the wrong road to get into NATO, my man.

I do wonder what happened to my factory.

I dunno, what did? My forces are going to be occupying the area of BL where WSP used to be, so I probably have control of it.

For the record, thought I should establish what style of occupation will be taking place by my troops here, rather than have to find some way to describe it IC.

Basically nice occupation. As peaceful and non-violent as possible. Armed attacks will be responded to in turn, but my soldiers are going to act like nice guys. No genocide, torture, or anything of the sort. Also, their primary goal at this time is to protect Harakian construction crews until it can be assured that they won't be targeted by potential Londinian insurgents.


Think of it as 'passive occupation', or maybe 'guiding hand' rather than 'crushing fist'.


Of course, how they respond to any incidents BL may have happen is different. This is just how they'll be acting in everything that isn't directly covered by posts.

I dunno, what did? My forces are going to be occupying the area of BL where WSP used to be, so I probably have control of it.

My forces where in the North Island, my factory is in the South Island.

My forces where in the North Island, my factory is in the South Island.
Ah well, that's why I said 'probably.' You could be a little more specific than just on the south island. The NATO country with control of said factory would probably like to know exactly what it is too.

Ah well, that's why I said 'probably.' You could be a little more specific than just on the south island. The NATO country with control of said factory would probably like to know exactly what it is too.

Well, BL and I never mentioned an specific location, but one would think near the coast, probably Newcastle or something like that.

Then I believe that would fall under my jurisdicition, IIRC. You've nothing to worry about, then.

Occupation Map:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v172/NSFlags/BLmap.png

North Island Color Key
Red: Hamptonshire
Gold: Scandavian States
Green: Granzi
Blue: Ambrose-Douglas

South Island Color Key
Olive Green: Cravan
Yellow: Haraki
Red: Illior
Black: Automagfreek
White: The Silver Sky

I believe it's Blue- Ambrose-Douglas and Green- Granzi.

Currently Kensington's Under my jurisdiction until SS shows up, and then I move straight into Argyll and the surrounding territories full force.

EDIT: BL, when you have the chance, mind responding to the calls that have been put out throughout Argyll?

BL, feel free to write up an article about the assault, I don't want to go to the trouble of writing it out without maps to reference. I honestly don't expect the Dødsfald soldiers to take any losses against the insurgents and I would expect the operation to be over fairly quickly. In fact, unless the whole op goes pear-shaped I wouldn't expect more than two battalions to be fed into the borough.

Manchester has been under Reaver occupation for awhile now, but I don't mind playing second fiddle to Haraki, since the map is already made and he controls the larger occupation zone.

The city itself, though, is being defended by my armies with my fleets off the coast.

That's fine, Pants. I'm happy to share the area with the Reavers.

My plan for joint control of the zone would go like this: we both have forces present, but mine interact mostly with the populace, while yours interact mostly with reactions to insurgent action and any outwards threats that may come up.

Because Reavers are scary, and you might scare the small children.

OOC: Bump.

The obscenely slow pace of this RP is extremely frustrating, especially when it prevents me from doing a number of other RPs involving my nation. So, I'm giving you all until Saturday to finish this up.


Okay, you know what, you need to slow your roll. It's fairly evident you aren't familiar with the concept of fluid time, so let me explain it in simple terms; time is variable. In other words, yes you can do other RPs so long as you RP them after the occupation ends. Hell, you can RP them during the occupation so long as you don't stir crap up. Another thing about fluid time, we discussed it and have agreed that the occupation has lasted less than a month so far, based on events in the RP.

So chill out, sit down, and order up some freaking patience.

Okay, you know what, you need to slow your roll. It's fairly evident you aren't familiar with the concept of fluid time, so let me explain it in simple terms; time is variable. In other words, yes you can do other RPs so long as you RP them after the occupation ends. Hell, you can RP them during the occupation so long as you don't stir crap up. Another thing about fluid time, we discussed it and have agreed that the occupation has lasted less than a month so far, based on events in the RP.

So chill out, sit down, and order up some freaking patience.

I quite agree. We're not going to RP every little thing that happens with our nations and rebuilding. And, believe it or not, most of us have lives outside of NS. And many have final exams for school right now. So chill. YOU lost. WE won. YOU don't tell US what to do.

I've had a lot of patience in this thread, and I've tried my hardest to be understanding. But after a while, enough is enough. I'm tired of the RP, because I'm the only active participant.

EDIT: Ambrose, get off your high horse. As far as I can tell, you did very little to beat me. It's free-form RP, so I can do what I please. Sure, ICly, the government hasn't a leg to stand on, but OOCly, that doesn't matter. If you have all this RL stuff, then don't bother engaging in a long, in-depth RP that requires a lot of participation.

I've had a lot of patience in this thread, and I've tried my hardest to be understanding. But after a while, enough is enough. I'm tired of the RP, because I'm the only active participant.

EDIT: Ambrose, get off your high horse. As far as I can tell, you did very little to beat me. It's free-form RP, so I can do what I please. Sure, ICly, the government hasn't a leg to stand on, but OOCly, that doesn't matter.

Actually, I've been posting there every other day, and the thread is hardly ever more than three pages back. That's decently active.

And no, I won't get off a high horse because I am not on one. You need to understand that people don't devote their entire lives to this game, and aren't going to post every single second, or even every single day. And no, I did nothing to beat you, but I ferried civilians out of the Waddington/Devonport area and now control that area as a part of NATO. Like me to be more active than just newscasts? Give something for ALL the occupiers to do, not just a region or two.

And I suggest that, OOCly of course, that you get off your high horse.

EDIT: I don't have RL stuff going on. I've explained why I'm not posting multiple times a day above. Right now, I have few RL things going on at night, and fewer during the day. I am free to post a lot.

Look, I don't demand that people devote their lives to this. I know it's a game. But for Pete's sake, people should do a little more than writing empty bulletins that don't add to the RP (*cough* Ambrose-Douglas *cough*). And, again, freeform RP allows me to do this, so I can't see why you have to complain about it so much.

Enough of this.

BL, you are welcome to do any RP's you want per fluid time. We can assume the reconstruction effort is going quickly and as planned, so I don't see a problem in wrapping this up soon, but to set a specific deadline may be out of place. I plan on making a few more posts detailing the training of the new BL army, reconstruction, and so forth in the coming days, so please be patient.

BL, what are you going on about you're the only active participant in this RP? I've been trying to get you involved with my nation's mission in Newcastle and you've done nothing but ignore me and my efforts, I was ready to up and leave the city to the damned militias and wash my hands of you.

Enough of this.

BL, you are welcome to do any RP's you want per fluid time. We can assume the reconstruction effort is going quickly and as planned, so I don't see a problem in wrapping this up soon, but to set a specific deadline may be out of place. I plan on making a few more posts detailing the training of the new BL army, reconstruction, and so forth in the coming days, so please be patient.

Okay. All I wanted was an acknowledgment that there was still participation.