NationStates Jolt Archive

The draftroom is a place where all the NS designers go to check each others designs and make sure they are realistic and there are no mistakes. Also, 10k missiles arent at your one dreadnought, but there are twenty Khan missiles shot at each, then 30k at various targets.

I'm sorry. I was never informed. Infact, my superdreadnaught was created at the times of the new Doujin's Doujin Class and Truitt's Escalade Class. It responded me to really create, under several circumstances, a more competitive naval superdreadnaught. However, only 3 Riceballs, and 5 Juki SDs were created.

Hm yes, let me give you that link. Now, are any of your SD's critically damaged from the Khans?

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx

30k missiles at various targets. Twenty Khans at my SD.

My defensive systems will not stop 100% of the incomers, but I was about to RP something further deeper with the missiles still coming at me.

30k missiles at various targets. Twenty Khans at my SD.

My defensive systems will not stop 100% of the incomers, but I was about to RP something further deeper with the missiles still coming at me.

Alright. Twenty Khans at each SD

Hm yes, let me give you that link. Now, are any of your SD's critically damaged from the Khans?

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx

Yes, the one that was forced to seal hatches and flames full all over the decks.

OOC: No missile defense system garuntee's 100% kill rate. At thirty thousand missiles, there are going to be, assuming 95% kill rate(which is beyond the optimistic rate), out of 30,000 missiles there are going to be 2,500 leakers... thats a HELL of alot of missiles. And thats assuming the missiles are coming in straight, with no jammers, chaff dispensors, and/or flare dispensors. More likely though, your going to get a 80% kill rate. That means more leakers, more missiles, and alot more damage. If the missiles are coming in with jammers or any decoy dispensors... well, the kill rate drops accordingly.

Same applies to those 10,000 missiles fired at you TPF. Speaking of TPF, can you respond to my offer?

I have a big question for you, TPF.

How can you command 2,000 ships in an orderly fashion? Your fleet takes up a massive area of the ocean.

You're spending more than 1% of your budget. You can't keep up with that.

You have over 2,000 planes in air, around $20 billion dollars in equipment, another 20 billion in parts and pilot training. With that, even your core ships won't risk firing shells.

I have a big question for you, TPF.

How can you command 2,000 ships in an orderly fashion? Your fleet takes up a massive area of the ocean.

You're spending more than 1% of your budget. You can't keep up with that.

What about my budget? Also, 2,000 ships is a lot but their organized into smaller units with their own commanders that take order from the central authority.

OOC: No missile defense system garuntee's 100% kill rate. At thirty thousand missiles, there are going to be, assuming 95% kill rate(which is beyond the optimistic rate), out of 30,000 missiles there are going to be 2,500 leakers... thats a HELL of alot of missiles. And thats assuming the missiles are coming in straight, with no jammers, chaff dispensors, and/or flare dispensors. More likely though, your going to get a 80% kill rate. That means more leakers, more missiles, and alot more damage. If the missiles are coming in with jammers or any decoy dispensors... well, the kill rate drops accordingly.

Same applies to those 10,000 missiles fired at you TPF. Speaking of TPF, can you respond to my offer?

Red Tide! It has been a while. The thing about these unnamed missiles is that Leocardia can assume they are simple cruise missiles, which means subsonic 1 million dollar payloads and that means he can use longer range antiaircraft missiles to take them out.

I'm trying to poke at the Economic aspect of keeping a 4,000 ship fleet afloat. While I do have a 10,000 ship navy, it is more for propaganda, and only 1,000 are ever active at once during peacetime.

The thing is, he can't possibly have 4,000 ships just sitting around, the operating costs are enormous, each individual ship, not to mention sailor salaries and fuel costs. Hell, even arming those ships. I don't keep ships sitting around missile tubes hot.

Are you guys complaing about how many ships I have in my Navy?

I have 4,000 ships in my entire Navy. Currently, around 3,200 are active.

Your SD fired more than ten thousand? Isn't that pushing it? And certantily a lot of the silos are knocked out from the attacks.

Your SD fired more than ten thousand? Isn't that pushing it? And certantily a lot of the silos are knocked out from the attacks.

Who said it was just from a SD? I have 2 others, as well as another fleet.

Are you guys complaing about how many ships I have in my Navy?

No, we're complaining how much you have out in deployment against mine.

You said the Riceball fired 10,000 in anger. Also, I don't recall you taking causulties form the arty on your landing craft.

I have 4,000 ships in my entire Navy. Currently, around 3,200 are active.

So you have 1,200 idle? Still, having idled ships in the battlefield costs way too much.

No, we're complaining how much you have out in deployment against mine.

2,000. Thats the entire Armada. I'm broke now.

You said the Riceball fired 10,000 in anger. Also, I don't recall you taking causulties form the arty on your landing craft.

I sure did. I said two, blown from direct hit from artillery.

So you have 1,200 idle? Still, having idled ships in the battlefield costs way too much.

They're on other assignments.

I sure did. I said two, blown from direct hit from artillery.

Out of the hundreds of shells? Hm, okay fine...

Out of the hundreds of shells? Hm, okay fine...

Did you say you shot 100 shells? No you didn't. Plus, artillery fire isn't accurate. It's like a salvo shot. And yet, I am still waiting for you to report your damages and casulties that my bombers have been dropping on.

Did you say you shot 100 shells? No you didn't. Plus, artillery fire isn't accurate. It's like a salvo shot. And yet, I am still waiting for you to report your damages and casulties that my bombers have been dropping on.

That's cause theres nothing on that beach.

That's cause theres nothing on that beach.

If there's nothing, then what happened to all of your army groups down there? You claimed there are two army regiments down there to counter any enemy landings on the shores.

If there's nothing, then what happened to all of your army groups down there? You claimed there are two army regiments down there to counter any enemy landings on the shores.

I claimed to have them on the way, and they're behind the beach. I said they were ready to counter attack any beachhead. Mobile strike groups beat out static defenses.

I claimed to have them on the way, and they're behind the beach. I said they were ready to counter attack any beachhead. Mobile strike groups beat out static defenses.

You never said anything about they were "on their way." You clearly stated that they were two "army groups" preparing to counter attack any beach head. But still, have mobile strike group doesn't mean they can't be bombed, especially when they are being escorted by massive multirole, strike fighters.

You never said anything about they were "on their way." You clearly stated that they were two "army groups" preparing to counter attack any beach head. But still, have mobile strike group doesn't mean they can't be bombed, especially when they are being escorted by massive multirole, strike fighters.

Ok. You still have to contend with the air force planes and the Army Groups SAMs. And I did say they were on their way... I think.

EDIT: It appears, that I didn't, but thats is what I meant.

Ok. You still have to contend with the air force planes and the Army Groups SAMs. And I did say they were on their way... I think.

EDIT: It appears, that I didn't, but thats is what I meant.

You know, RPing doesn't work that way. Missing information would lead to confusion, and confusion would lead to assuming things. You never clearly stated they were on their way. It makes a big difference on such things. Since I've already went here so far, there's no point of changing it again, because we've gone so far, and it would just ruin the RP.

Your fighter planes are out to dealt with missiles coming at you. You never stated that they were heading toward my bombers and trying to interfere with their missions. Plus, you didn't even state you had SAMs with you. All you said was there were army regiments trying to counter attack with my amphibious landings. Now that I've already done the bombings and landings, please RP your losses on the shores, as well as bombed targets.

Need me to remind you such things, you must be really retarded. [sorry mods] Why are you even forgetting such things that you've RPed yourself, yet not clearly, nor accurately?

Is stated I had Two Army Groups on the way, Army Groups have a lot of shit in them. Ill list what is in each one. Also what I meant my counter was forcing you off the beaches. Thats what countering is. I never stated they were ON the beach. If you knew the military, you would clearly know the difference between an Army Group and some regiments.

Each Army Group:

Twenty-five Infantry Divisions.
Five Panzer Divisions

I can also break down to you what is in each division

Is stated I had Two Army Groups on the way, Army Groups have a lot of shit in them. Ill list what is in each one. Also what I meant my counter was forcing you off the beaches. Thats what countering is. I never stated they were ON the beach. If you knew the military, you would clearly know the difference between an Army Group and some regiments.

Each Army Group:

Twenty-five Infantry Divisions.
Five Panzer Divisions

I can also break down to you what is in each division

Since your saying they're on their way, and my forces have landed... so I'll just keep it from there

That sounds fine to me.

Can I join in on this fight?

Can I join in on this fight?

Sure. It's open.

Can I join in on this fight?

Go for it.

is there a map of TPF or anything like that?..Since I'm out of the Hataria mess..I have nothing to do and I am strongly anti-communist...

is there a map of TPF or anything like that?..Since I'm out of the Hataria mess..I have nothing to do and I am strongly anti-communist...

I got one. Its incredibly shitty, however. Let me get it up.

EDIT: http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/bobiscool33/TPF.jpg

I got one. Its incredibly shitty, however. Let me get it up.

Its okay..Im not an artist myself..I used regular MS paint for my own maps lol..which is what most ppl do..I am going to monitor this conflict for now.

I'm still deciding if I want to get into this. It all depends on whether or not I decide to do the cold war thing or not. I just realy want some allies, and maybe a colony. :p (At the very least a good RP, even if I'm beaten back)

I'm still deciding if I want to get into this. It all depends on whether or not I decide to do the cold war thing or not. I just realy want some allies, and maybe a colony. :p (At the very least a good RP, even if I'm beaten back)

Alright man. It's open, after all. :)

TWSP highly recommends our pals over at Dephire and the PROHT stay clear of this conflict, or at least, refrain from sending troops.

It's a legitimate DAN operation...
So there is no excuse for me this time...

Unless someone can prove without a doubt that TPF is the aggressor, and acted without the correct approval.

*troops shall be sent, as stated ICly*

It's a legitimate DAN operation...
So there is no excuse for me this time...

Unless someone can prove without a doubt that TPF is the aggressor, and acted without the correct approval.

*troops shall be sent, as stated ICly*

TPF does not possess what we can call a "friendly" goverment, heck, they want to destroy me as well (and I'm an ADAN member myself).
Anyways, I'm allied to TNB and Leocardia via GUSN, so if they are attacked, I'll have to help them. To avoid that, and Intra-GASN conflicts that may arise, I suggest both you, Dephire and me concentrate solely on supplying the combatants (you and Deph can send stuff to TPF, I'll keep sending stuff to TNB and Leo, like I'm already doing).

TWSP, I do not intend to invade leo back, for that you should be thankful. :p

Also, leo attacked me, I did not attack him. Thus ADAN is bound to protect me, while GUSN is not because leo and NB are the aggressors.

TWSP, I do not intend to invade leo back, for that you should be thankful. :p

Also, leo attacked me, I did not attack him. Thus ADAN is bound to protect me, while GUSN is not because leo and NB are the aggressors.

Yes, but I rather like TNB and Leo, they be good allies of mine, and I stand closer to them than to most of the ADAN.

TWSP, I do not intend to invade leo back, for that you should be thankful. :p

Also, leo attacked me, I did not attack him. Thus ADAN is bound to protect me, while GUSN is not because leo and NB are the aggressors.

Though you did not attack me, you've attacked an ally. Was North Calaveras a reason that you need to be involved?

NC joined GUSN during my invasion... I believe.

Where's the IC thread. I'm deciding on whom I'm going to send my troops to.

just search it

Oh. I have been off for a little while, and did not see this. TPF, I have not abandoned you.

I'm going to get involved shortly; do you happen to possess a map, context, etc? That would make this quite a bit easier.

Leo, once I find out that you have radiated my sailors, I'll attempt to call on you against the international community for warcrimes, and if that doesn't work, it will have to be on to use of tac nukes and chemical warfare x.x Do we want that? Also, it won't really help you in your battle, since it will probaly take around 8 hours for the sailors to start and notice it.

Leo, once I find out that you have radiated my sailors, I'll attempt to call on you against the international community for warcrimes, and if that doesn't work, it will have to be on to use of tac nukes and chemical warfare x.x Do we want that? Also, it won't really help you in your battle, since it will probaly take around 8 hours for the sailors to start and notice it.

You sure you want to use nuclear weapons on me?

That would totally get the international community on YOU!

And a radiated Moskit isn't a nuke? It's theoretically a dirty bomb.