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OCC thread, NC

The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:21
How far is your tank?
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:22
300, yards away.
The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:23
I'm well within kill range. It should be defeated. You stated you have 150mm RHA armor. RPG-29 penetrates 750.
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:28
plus the uranium lining with kevalar and that is with steel as well, so no not really. but still did some damage.
The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:29
plus the uranium lining with kevalar and that is with steel as well, so no not really. but still did some damage.

whats is your total RHA value on that tank? On your stat block?
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:32
vs KE(MM)
Front turret: 180-240
Glacis: 210
Lower front hull: 180 (7) Turret: 190-260

vsCE(MM)
Glacis: 210
Lower front hull: 180

this was the origanal, hold on
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:37
well, that is the same as the SOL versions except, it has layers of 2 inch DU and inbetween is steel,

the weopon impacted the ERA, went through hit the steel, hit 3 layers of DU and then hit another 5 inchs of steel, and then ramed into 4 layers of DU.
The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:38
well, that is the same as the SOL versions except, it has layers of 2 inch DU and inbetween is steel,

the weopon impacted the ERA, went through hit the steel, hit 3 layers of DU and then hit another 5 inchs of steel, and then ramed into 4 layers of DU.

Just answer the RHA Value.
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:39
im not even sure i thought i wouldnt have to worry about these little details. i will in a minute.
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:40
i gtg and type a report right now, i will be on tonight or tomarrow.
The Phoenix Milita
23-05-2007, 03:43
What he wants is RHAe, essentially you need to calculate the equivalent amount of rolled homogeneous steel that your combination of materials can provide against his round, which he has said is a tandem warhead RPG-29. ERA which you have stated is on your tanks is one of the best ways to reduce penetration of a High-Explosive Anti-Tank warhead. Unless you gave a bunch of complex calculations for RHAe performance against certain rounds when you introduced your tank, I think you can get away with saying the tank was only disabled (mobility kill) or heavily damaged, since many real life anti-armor weapons would not have anything close to 100% 1 hit kill capability against NS tanks. Some modern real life tanks with ERA have near 2000mm RHAe against HEAT rounds, so its not crazy to think an rpg-29 is only going to damage or disable the tank that it hit.
The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:46
What he wants is RHAe, essentially you need to calculate the equivalent amount of rolled homogeneous steel that your combination of materials can provide against his round, which he has said is a tandem warhead RPG-29. ERA which you have stated is on your tanks is one of the best ways to reduce penetration of a High-Explosive Anti-Tank warhead. Unless you gave a bunch of complex calculations for RHAe performance against certain rounds when you introduced your tank, I think you can get away with saying the tank was only disabled (mobility kill) or heavily damaged, since many real life anti-armor weapons would not have anything close to 100% 1 hit kill capability against NS tanks.

OCC: Good, but its an upgraded T-62. If that weapon can destroy T-80 and T-90, even with his upgrades, it should score a kill.
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 03:50
okay well say you hit my tracks and im immobile i dont want precise calculations.
The Phoenix Milita
23-05-2007, 03:50
OCC: Good, but its an upgraded T-62. If that weapon can destroy T-80 and T-90, even with his upgrades, it should score a kill.

The RPG 29 could not destroy T-80 or T-90 that had ERA in one hit to the frontal armor. The 2000mm figure i stated was for an upgraded T-72 and the RPG-29 is only capable of penetrating around 750 mm after going thru era
The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:52
The RPG 29 could not destroy T-80 or T-90 that had ERA in one hit to the frontal armor.

Sources would say you are wrong.
The Phoenix Milita
23-05-2007, 03:55
From the source, that your source got its information from:

Each weapon was fired 5 times at each target, for a total of 20 shots per weapon. The total number of shots fired during the trials thus exceeded 150.

The trials yielded the following outcome:

* ATGLs
o T-90: RPG-29 produced a total of 3 penetrations.
No other RPG rounds could penetrate even the stripped target.
o T-80U: RPG-29 penetrated 3 times with ERA, all 5 times without ERA.
Of all other grenades, one PG-7VR penetrated the stripped target.
* ATGMs
o T-90: No ATGMs could penetrate the ERA-equipped target. One Kornet ATGM penetrated the stripped target.
o T-80U: 2 Kornet ATGMs penetrated the ERA-equipped target, all 5 penetrated the stripped target.
No other ATGMs could penetrate.
The PeoplesFreedom
23-05-2007, 03:56
I had a different source, but okay.
North Calaveras
23-05-2007, 04:01
can we get back to the thread, i will say you took out my treads.