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Guarita DO66-2S99 AFV Engine Offered for Export

Dostanuot Loj
22-05-2007, 06:10
Department of Trade External Release

The Dictorial Republic of Sumer is happy to announce the release for limited export the export version of the Guarita Engine Production Facility's next generation diesel engine for use in armoured fighting vehicles or other applications. The engine in question is the export version of a more powerful locally used model, but is more then sufficient to handle the needs of customers.

Exporting of the DO66-2S99 is subject to restrictions imposed by the Sumerian Government. We reserve the right to restrict or refuse sale as nessecary. Bu purchasing the DO66-2S99 you agree not to resell or reverse engineer the engines without express written permission from the Dictorial Republic of Sumer.

Cost per engine unit will be $120,000 USD.
Parts and repair services will be included.

Customers opperating with the DO66-2S99:
- Greal (10,045)
- Animarnia (97,000)



Guarita DO66-2S99 Engine Details:

History:
The Guarita Engine Production Facility, located in the city of Jericho, has been producing internal combustion engines for both military and civilian use for more then a century. They have a long history of supply of engines for armored fighting vehicles, aircraft, and soft skinned vehicles for the Sumerian Armed Forces, and have also gained a reliable reputation with civillian engines powering community transit systems. Their latest generation of engine, the product of nearly four decades of development, is the DO66-2S99. In expanded terms this stands for: Diesel engine, Opposed, 6 cylinder, 6 stroke, (2) Twin-Supercharged, model 99. It is the latest generation in petroleum based fuel consuming engines developed for the Republican Guard and Republican Army, and is restricted to military use by law. The design and construction of the DO66-2S99 are closely guarded programs within the State and within the Guarita Facility itself.

Design:
The DO66-2S99 is an opposed pistol engine that consists of two banks of three cylinders layered one atop the other, in similar fashion to the H configuration of some Boxer engines. The engine is multifuel capable, allowing greater versatility in the field, and compatibility with foreign fuel stocks if needed. The major design difference of the DO66-2S99 as compared to previous opposed piston engines is the use of a water injecting six stroke cycle. In this system the engine operates as a typical four stroke engine for the first four strokes, except following the exhaust stroke fresh distilled water is injected into the cylinder where the residual heat of the combustion turns the water into steam, forcing another power cycle after the combustion cycle, as well as cooling the engine. This process allows a close to fifty percent gain in fuel efficiency for a given amount of power, with the added benefits of vastly cooler engine and exhaust temperatures, as well as lower maintenance issues related to normal wear and tear from the heat of combustion.
The cylinder design of the DO66-2S99 is not a pure opposed cylinder design. The two pistons are separated by an hour glass shaped cylinder psudeo-head which contains the necessary injection systems for the fuel and water injection as well as secondary ignition systems, while providing optimum compression and flow through required for linear operation. The layout of the engine is such that exhaust from the engine flows through a central exhaust conduit inside the engine between the cylinder banks, allowing the intake systems to be more isolated from heat on the outside edges of the engine.
The engine itself is made primarily out of milled titanium, and special poured ceramic insulation. The ceramic insulation is mainly used to surround the cylinders and exhaust conduit to isolate residual heat from the rest of the engine. Milled Titanium makes up the primary component of the majority of the engine, including the block, cylinders, pistons and crankshafts. Milled Titanium is used to increase engine life and durability and strength while reducing weight.
In it’s primary configuration the DO66-2S99 uses two mechanically powered twin-screw type supercharges which take in air from the engine filtration system and compress it. The compressed air from the superchargers is fed through an intercooler before being split evenly between the two cylinder banks through a series of pipes. Each supercharger being individually driven from one of the two crankshafts. The engine itself having two crankshafts, one per side, each running six pistons, similar in action to a V6 engine. The two crankshafts in turn feed a single output shaft through a system of gears.

Conclusion:
Overall the DO66-2S99 is a high reliability, low maintenance engine that includes several bonus features making it ideal for military use. High output power with low fuel consumption and low toxic emission while maintaining a drastically lower engine and exhaust temperature then conventional engines are the key features to the DO66-2S99s design and promise.

Specifications:
Bore: 120mm
Stroke: 2x120mm
Total Volume: 16.3L
Number of Cylinders: Six
Rated RPM: 3000
Rated Output: 2000hp
Fuel Consumption: 112 g/hp/h
Length: 1100mm
Width: 1100mm
Height: 725mm
Weight: 1050kg

Opperational Requierments:
Distilled Water Capacity: Installing the DO66-2S99 into a vehicle without the facilities to make use of the distilled water injection system will force the engine to run at greatly reduced power and endurance specifications. An average of one liter of distilled water is required for every two liters of fuel.

Note: Specifications based on supercharged version as fitted to run, without including any transmission attachments after the output shaft.
Czechalrus
22-05-2007, 06:21
How much are you asking for production rights?
Dostanuot Loj
22-05-2007, 06:23
Because of the sensitive nature of production and materials required we are sorry to say we can not see foreign production as a viable option at this time.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
Greal
22-05-2007, 06:26
IC: The Goverment of Greal would like to buy 45 engines.


We will send you the money wen you approve this order.




signed,

Minister of Defense: Clark Bent
Dostanuot Loj
22-05-2007, 06:29
Response to Greal

Fourty-five engines will be produced and shipped accordingly for the cost of $5,400,000 USD total. If you need additional engines please do not hesitate to return.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
Greal
22-05-2007, 06:32
OOC: the $5,400,000 has been wired.
Animarnia
22-05-2007, 11:32
To: Dostanuot Loj;
From: General Frank Styles
RE: Engine

We would like to reserve a spot to purchase this engine; we understand you said limited export thus we don't want to loose out and may require a large industrial engine in large quantities; in fact we may at a future point require some 35,000 or more of these engines; we would like to enquire how this engine stands up against say the 2500HP Quasiturbine Engine; we are looking for a heavy duty fuel efficent Engine for our next generation Tank currently Designated the "Iron Kong II" currently the Iron Kong II is being designed for the Quasiturbine in mind like the Iron Kong I however this may change.
Dostanuot Loj
22-05-2007, 11:54
Response to the Animarnian inquiery

Quasiturbine technology is faulty at the best of times. Their poor managment of the energy of combustion and their high rate of wear cause many problems for those not willing to pay high prices for their construction and maintenence. Comparativly the DO66-2S99 series engine uses less fuel due to better heat managment, signifigantly less fuel then other engines of simmilar output and size. The incorporation of a recollector in the exhaust system of a vehicle equipped with this engine can filter out and return up to eighty percent of the water used in the engine cycle to storage, allowing for better managment of the resources required. As well, cooling for the engine is done internally, and thusly complex cooling and radiator systems of normal engines and indeed, quasiturbines, are either needed in sparse quantity and size, or not needed at all. A quick and direct comparasin between the two systems is simply that a Quasiturbine uses more fuel, requires more maintenence, and wastes more energy then this engine, which is designed to recycle the energy from combustion. On top of all that, an unintended bonus, with appropriate exhaust water reclaimation system, the exhaust finally expelled from the engine would be signifigantly cooler then even that of a conventional diesel engine.

As for your reservation, there should be no need for such an act. When we described limited production, we were thinking of orders topping one hundred thousand as a possibility, or orders from those nations we have unsteady relations. As long as we are not overstressed for production, and our relations with most customers remain strong, this is unlikely to be a problem.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
Animarnia
22-05-2007, 12:09
Response to the Animarnian inquiery

Quasiturbine technology is faulty at the best of times. Their poor managment of the energy of combustion and their high rate of wear cause many problems for those not willing to pay high prices for their construction and maintenence. Comparativly the DO66-2S99 series engine uses less fuel due to better heat managment, signifigantly less fuel then other engines of simmilar output and size. The incorporation of a recollector in the exhaust system of a vehicle equipped with this engine can filter out and return up to eighty percent of the water used in the engine cycle to storage, allowing for better managment of the resources required. As well, cooling for the engine is done internally, and thusly complex cooling and radiator systems of normal engines and indeed, quasiturbines, are either needed in sparse quantity and size, or not needed at all. A quick and direct comparasin between the two systems is simply that a Quasiturbine uses more fuel, requires more maintenence, and wastes more energy then this engine, which is designed to recycle the energy from combustion. On top of all that, an unintended bonus, with appropriate exhaust water reclaimation system, the exhaust finally expelled from the engine would be signifigantly cooler then even that of a conventional diesel engine.

As for your reservation, there should be no need for such an act. When we described limited production, we were thinking of orders topping one hundred thousand as a possibility, or orders from those nations we have unsteady relations. As long as we are not overstressed for production, and our relations with most customers remain strong, this is unlikely to be a problem.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban

Offical Reply
Then we would like to order a total of 97,000 of your Engines as this would allow us to retrofit our Iron Kongs at factory production to the new Engine and give is spares should heaven forbid there be any faults. We understand Domestic production Rights are unlikely to be avalable however we wonder if we can produce this engine under licence as LPI or Limited Production Rights; paying you the same amount for each engine as a retail keeping the numbres in a ledger and produced locally under strict supervision from your engineers as we know such a large order could tax your production facilitys for other customers. though the Iron Kong is not currently avalable for Export we would like to equire what stance we would be at if in th future we wanted to Export the Iron Kong would we have to put in a different engine?
Greal
22-05-2007, 12:10
We have tested the engine at the battlefield and it works fine




We would like to buy 10,000 more for 1.2 billion
Dostanuot Loj
22-05-2007, 12:24
Response to Animarnia

As to your final question, wether or not you would have to put in a new engine to export the vehicle would more depend on who would be recieving these exports then anything. We would need to be informed beforehand if such an action were to take place with our engines installed.

The reasoning behind the limitation of production rights stems from the construction materials of the engine itself. The majority of the metalic element of the engine is high grade titanium, and as such requires special care in the construction. Other, more sensitive aspects would include the ceramic internal componants that allow the superior energy managment through control of heat buildup. We could allow limited production of spares, specifically those items which are made from titanium, but we could not ensure the quality of those parts by your industry, and you would be using them at your own risk. Although we would allow production of spares for $2,000,000,000 USD, with the materials and fabrication of said spares up to your industry. Of course your order will come with the usually stated spares and assistance, and of course any required repairs that your industry is unable to take care of we will do for free, as is our support for our product.

We welecome your order for 97,000 engines though, which will be delivered over a period of twelve months in shipments of roughly eight thousand a piece. The total cost of the delivery will be $11,640,000,000 USD. If you wish spares production as previously mentioned, it will be $13,640,000,000 USD.
If this is accecptable the engines will begin shipping upon payment.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban

Response to Greal

We can fulfill such an order and hope the engines continue to satisfy your needs. For $1,200,000,000 USD your order will be shipped over a three week period.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
Greal
22-05-2007, 12:27
money has been wired
Animarnia
22-05-2007, 22:09
Response to Animarnia

As to your final question, wether or not you would have to put in a new engine to export the vehicle would more depend on who would be recieving these exports then anything. We would need to be informed beforehand if such an action were to take place with our engines installed.

The reasoning behind the limitation of production rights stems from the construction materials of the engine itself. The majority of the metalic element of the engine is high grade titanium, and as such requires special care in the construction. Other, more sensitive aspects would include the ceramic internal componants that allow the superior energy managment through control of heat buildup. We could allow limited production of spares, specifically those items which are made from titanium, but we could not ensure the quality of those parts by your industry, and you would be using them at your own risk. Although we would allow production of spares for $2,000,000,000 USD, with the materials and fabrication of said spares up to your industry. Of course your order will come with the usually stated spares and assistance, and of course any required repairs that your industry is unable to take care of we will do for free, as is our support for our product.

We welecome your order for 97,000 engines though, which will be delivered over a period of twelve months in shipments of roughly eight thousand a piece. The total cost of the delivery will be $11,640,000,000 USD. If you wish spares production as previously mentioned, it will be $13,640,000,000 USD.
If this is accecptable the engines will begin shipping upon payment.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban


Response
Of Course; we value the need for such matters; the Iron Kong is the most advanced battle tank currently in our army; second only to the Macarbee Nakil 1A1; its likely for the forseeable future that the tank will not be exported; and even if that step is taken it would likely only be to close allies such as Veteka or TLA due to the senseative nature of the parts involved. of course if the tank ever did go on general export you would be given a share of the profits for your work.we also include a 20% bonus for your time and work so that this may begin a long and happy business relationship between us; this brings the amount paid up to $16,368,000,000 Billion Universal Standard Dollars.

As for this figure; the money is being transfered to your accounts for the engines plus rights to spare parts
Dostanuot Loj
22-05-2007, 23:11
Response

Excellent, then we shal begin delivery imediately over the course of time previously stipulated. We hope the engines find you well.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
Western Motors Corp
02-06-2007, 00:31
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We have been forwarded to this office by the officials at the Nineveh Armour Works after we inquired about purchasing the Guarita DO66-2S99 engine found in their MCA-7C tank. We realized that your engine, if scaled properly, could fulfill a vast number of roles in our current Defense Forces, especially by replacing other, similarly sized engines found in seperate vehicles. However, we are not interested in purchasing a set number of these engines, nor are we interested in purchasing these engines in their current configuration (well, beyond what we would require for replacements and if we find another use for it in our Defense Forces). What we are looking for is if it has the capability to be scaled down to fulfill a number of other roles in vehicles ranging from IFVs to other tactical vehicles, and even civilian vehicles (as a derivative of the military design). Potential horsepower-class ranges from the 200-300 HP range up to about 1000 HP.

Additionally, our Domestic Procurement Office has informed me that they intend on purchasing a number of our domestically-designed Aparejo tactical cargo/utility vehicles to fulfill the role of a prime medium cargo vehicle in our Defense Forces. Subsequently, we would be interested in possibly either contracting for DO66-2S99 derivatives for their use in the vehicle, or purchasing some sort of production plan to domestically produce the required variant ourselves.

Regardless, we await your response on whether the design can be scaled down to seperate applications (in which case we will purchase scaled versions in bulk or by production plan, if able) or if we can either purchase/produce a scaled version for use in the domestic Aparejo. In the future, we plan on releasing the Aparejo for export, so this may help your decision (if allowed to use the engine, we will pay for licensing of the engine, as well as a portion of all sales). Thank you for your consideration, and we await your response.

John Bohlinger
Foreign Arms Procurement Office

Western Motors Corporation
Dostanuot Loj
02-06-2007, 10:36
To John Bohlinger, Western Motors Corporation

I'm not entirely sure the Guarita engines would be ideal for all applications you desire. While it is true that they are quite light and powerful while being fairly fuel effecient, this comes at the cost of expensive materials, very expensive materials, and a complex production process. Further the engine itself requires a large reserve of distilled water for use, and so the production and containment of distilled water to insure no contamination can bring the cost up further. The application within tanks such as the MCA-7 series, have water distillation systems included within the vehicle, which adds bulk but bulk that a tank can accomodate easily. Light vehicles do not have this so easily accessable. So I am unsure if some of the described applications are feasable. A smaller engine however is quite likely for systems such as APCs, or even larger trucks for transporting cargo, and I understand Guarita has been working on different versions of the engine ranging from one cylinder to four cylinders for such applicatins, as well as larger versions for our local industry, as well as an improved eight cylinder version which we will unfortunately not export due to security interests.

Doestic production, as we move into smaller sales productions, may be avalible. The issue, one we must make sure all who wish domestic production understand fully, is that the manufacture of these engines requires extensive use of titanium and titanium alloys, which are both expensive in the external market, and quite hard to work with. Further, the engine requires special ceramic insulation, which depending on your industrial capability, can be a rather daunting task.

Although I can reccomend that you keep your eye here, as Guarita may be releasing smaller units in the future. I am sure if the market exists they may even be looking to expand their avalibility to civil engines that they have been producing for us for decades already.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
The Phoenix Milita
02-06-2007, 11:06
Dear Guarita Engine Production Facility,
I would like to buy one DO66-2S99 AFV Engine for personal use.
I can write you a check or arrange a wire transfer for $120,000
If you can keep the details of our transaction a secret I will include a $5,000 incentive.
From,
Phoenix Seville
Western Motors Corp
07-06-2007, 01:14
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First off, thank you for your prompt reply Field Marshal Fidelos Ashurban, and simultaneously, sorry for our late response. We would like to thank you for answering our questions regarding the engine in question. Our primary concern for acquring the engine was to outfit whichever APCs and IFVs we purchase in the near future, as well as provide our heavy cargo vehicles (most of which, and especially the Aparejo, can be converted to an improvised, and fairly effective, APC) with a common engine sharing common components and logistical requirements (and even knowledge of repair) across most of the vehicles employed in our Defense Forces.

As for your concerns with titanium, we do, actually, have a fairly decent titanium works capability, as well as several contacts to obtain titanium. We have used the material before and we are certain we can, if not after practice, be able to domestically machine titanium components required for this engine.

Finally, we look forward to the possibility that Guarita may produce variants which will be able to fulfill our Defense Forces' needs. For the time being, we will await to see if Guarita does produce smaller variants, in which case we will likely purchase them.

Once again, thank you for your response.


John Bohlinger
Foreign Arms Procurement Office

Western Motors Corporation
Western Motors Corp
09-06-2007, 08:49
OOC- This is what we would likely put the smaller variant in: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6553/aparejos1ql6.png. It won't be this variant, as this is too light of a truck. It will instead likely be in the M6 Aparejo I tandem axle and M7 Aparejo I tandem axle personnel carrieer, as well as their corresponding Aparejo II versions (Aparejo II will be a redesign). There should be plenty of room for the corresponding water tanks, specifically, underneath the cargo bed, and more specifically, about where the tool/storage box is right now.
Dostanuot Loj
09-06-2007, 16:29
OOC: Sorry this completely slipped past me. I could have sworn I replied. Damn jolt. Variants may come later this week if I remember.

To The Phoenix Militia

Unfortunately due to strained opnions of my government regarding your national affiliation, we have to refuse you sale. I appologise for this inconveniance.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban

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To Western Motors Corp

Guarita has informed me they may be comming out with four and two cylinder versions, which may suit your needs. These should be avalible in the comming days, and pending their reports on production costs, we can work out production rights then. Although production rights might depend more on how many engines you plan to build.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
The Phoenix Milita
09-06-2007, 20:10
O)C: IIRC We've never had IC interaction, also Phoenix Seville is not a member of the government(is in fact "persona non grata" within the government), also would you mind defining your nation's "strained opinions" for my benefit here or in telegram.
Dostanuot Loj
10-06-2007, 06:09
OOC: It's my way of attempting to get you into a more secret discussion regarding the use of the engine.
The Phoenix Milita
10-06-2007, 07:34
Phoenix Seville was not one to take no for an answer, especially when it involved something he wanted. He googled the Guarita Engine Production Facility's number, and then pulled out a drawer that was filled with phones. He reached in and selected a throw away cellular phone which was linked to a scrambled temporary line. He punched in the digits and let it ring. He waited patiently until he could be connected with an individual authorized to take a high priority, secret, international order.
"First of all I want you to know that I am an expert and concealing things from my government, so if you are worrying about anyone finding out about this, don't because they won't. I am building a custom vehicle for my personal use... It's not exactly going to be... "street legal", so I am trying to keep it hush hush, if you know what I mean. It's going to be a little... recreational 6x6 that I can use to climb mountains, go polar bear hunting or maybe knock over a little tinpot dictatorship or two with. I need one of your fancy DO66-2S99 AFV Engines to run it. I can't get something similar from Phoenix Dynamix, because they won't let civilians, and especially me, buy something like that. If you have pix messaging enabled I'll send you a cellphone picture of the thing in my garage, its still under construction." Seville said as he pressed the button to send the photo.
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Dostanuot Loj
11-06-2007, 03:27
Secret IC:
Then consider the order fulfilled. Enjoy.
Greal
11-06-2007, 03:32
we will buy 20,000 more engines.
Dostanuot Loj
11-06-2007, 03:37
To Greal

For $2,400,000,000 consider it done. We hope they serve you well.

- Commanding Officer of Trade Department,
Feild Marshal Fidelos Ashurban
Greal
11-06-2007, 03:45
Wired you the money
The Candrian Empire
11-06-2007, 04:15
OOC: expect to be approached by two of the major engineering conglomerates in my country... at the same time.
Kahanistan
31-05-2008, 07:56
Official Statement of the Free Republic of Kahanistan

The Government of Kahanistan wishes to obtain 100 examples of the Guarita DO66-2S99 engine for testing in prototype military vehicles and possible refits of various designs.

Signed,
Marshal Mustafa Lavalle,
Minister of Defence