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The Socialistic United Settlements of Buddha C have found a rising amount of volunteers who demand to join the military, and also increase the wartime economics of our nation. Born to the idea of our glorious Chancellor, Scott Christian Walters, leader of the SUS of Buddha C after the timely departure of Ciao Buddha, just a year before. Chancellor Scott C. Walters is willing to give a grand sum of eight hundred million USDs for the designer of a weapon that can be mass produced, and has a capacity of at least six armed men, not including the driver, and move at speeds in the area of seventy-five kilometers per hour. Also, eighty percent of the parts must be interchangeable with a large variety of parts, with a advocation that these parts be of Soviet design.

Brayton Arms offers the Tolvanic Light Armored Vehicle (TLAV) family for your consideration.

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TLAV-IFV of the 6th Motorised Infantry Division showing its standard combat load out.

Specifications:
Crew: 3 (+ 6 or 7 troops)
Length: 6.98 m (275 in)
Width: 2.7 m (106 in)
Height: 2.8 m (110 in)
Weight: 17.95 t
Power plant: Caterpillar 3126 diesel
Suspension: Hydropneumatic
Road speed: 100 km/h
Range: 500 km

The TLAV is an eight-wheeled multirole armored vehicle based on the successful LAV III series. Among the improvements are an upgraded suspension, more powerful engine (450 hp vs. 350 hp), increased range, and superior armored protection. The TLAV features all around protection against 14.5mm HMG fire and is well protected against mines and IEDs. Applique armor packages allow for proofing the vehicles against 25mm autocannon fire and RPGs, however these add weight and degrade the vehicle's mobility somewhat.

The TLAV comes in a variety of variants including:

IFV (30mm autocannon)
Recce Vehicle (IFV with added sensors)
MGS (105mm cannon)
ATGM carrier (TOW missile)
Mortar carrier (81 or 120mm mortar)
Air Defense (20mm chain gun and 8 SAMs)
Engineer Support Vehicle
Medical Evacuation Vehicle
Fire Support Vehicle
CBRN Recon Vehicle
Command and Control Vehicle


Richard Barnes
Foreign Sales Director
Brayton Arms Manufactuing, Inc.

We were actually thinking of an open-topped design, and that the armour would be so thin that any tank round would simply penetrate the vehicle, and then exit it without exploding, but just thick enough to stop heavy machine gun rounds.

General Resources Conglomerate - Defenses Industries Division
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HT-50 Universal Carrier

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HT-50 with top down due to summer heat, Saharistani Trials

Meant as a replacement for trucks in active combat zones, it can resist enemy fire, and return it from a side mounted machine gun. Finally, supply lines can be safe from pesky infantry and scout cars.

Essentially an armoured truck to replace unarmoured trucks that we currently use to transport goods and men. Using a truck base, engine front, crew compartment, and then cargo compartment. A truck's covered top, but lined with Kevlar and a thin layer of aluminum.

Its design allows it to float and its churning wheels drive it forward, so it can ford rivers effectively. A simple kit allows it to go much deeper thanks to a snorkel.

Basics

Crew: 2 (+8 no cargo)
Length: 5 m
Width: 1.9 m
Height: 1.83 m
Weight: 4.6 tonnes
Cargo: 3 tonnes (metric tons)
Armour: 30mm RHAe (aluminum alloys, resists .50 cal beyond 50m)
Armament: 7.62mm MG
Powerplant: 320 hp diesel V8
Suspension: 4x4 wheel, leaf spring
Road speed: 100 km/h
Range: 285 km

Cost: $85,000 US

^Is jealous because Leafansi successfully designed and marketed one of my early ideas without my help (he didn't even know) and did the job 10x better than I ever would have...

(IOW, we both had roughly the same idea, I scrapped mine and he made his worthwhile)

Does it come in a 6x6 chassis of a 5 ton truck?

Does it come in olive drab and 'mickey mouse' camo?

^Is jealous because Leafansi successfully designed and marketed one of my early ideas without my help (he didn't even know) and did the job 10x better than I ever would have...

(IOW, we both had roughly the same idea, I scrapped mine and he made his worthwhile)

Does it come in a 6x6 chassis of a 5 ton truck?

OOC: Oddly enough no one even considered the 6x6 version when I made it, so I made it a 4x4 and people bought it.

One question, would tank rounds go clear threw it?

One question, would tank rounds go clear threw it?

With the thin aluminum armor, something like a depleted uranium penetrator would go straight through it. Hell, even an Iraqi steel penetrator with half powder would probably go straight through it. As for high explosive rounds that depends on range and speed, but if it is close then it would easily go through it.

At extreme ranges, it might slow down enough to cause it detonate.

So to answer you question, yes, that tank round would pass clear through it on the sides. Hitting it from the front is a different story. The engine block is pretty thick.

Could there be an innovative design that would allow for the engine block to be placed on the stomach of the vehicle, raising the wheels, and increasing the suspension?

Could there be an innovative design that would allow for the engine block to be placed on the stomach of the vehicle, raising the wheels, and increasing the suspension?

There is already a car like that, so yes. I could do that. Of course, most vehicles get shot or struck in the middle.

Of course this alters the vehicle significantly and ruins my picture. Do you still want the 'false front' there. It can be a trunk or boot of sorts.

Then yes, I'm looking increasingly forward to purchasing this vehicle, can I see some schematics? Is the armour the same as that of the HT-50? And also are there such things you could take away from the vehicle to lessen the cost but not efficiency? Also I want the front to have as little bulk a possible.

Then yes, I'm looking increasingly forward to purchasing this vehicle, can I see some schematics? Is the armour the same as that of the HT-50? And also are there such things you could take away from the vehicle to lessen the cost but not efficiency? Also I want the front to have as little bulk a possible.

OOC: I can remove more armor and replace it with just 25.4mm of aluminum alloy all around. The front trunk part will be unarmored to save more weight, but it should be there for gearboxes and steering mechanics. Then I can strip away the 7.62mm machine gun and its mount.

As for the cost, it'd probably drop down to $70,000 US, but for an armored personnel carrier this is pretty damn cheap.

If you are really desperate, I can shave .4 meters away from it and make it seat 6 people. It would improve its range and lower its weight. The cost will drop down to $68,000 then.

As for the car with the engine in the middle, it is an RL sedan, so I doubt you want to buy a sedan.

OOC: I can remove more armor and replace it with just 25.4mm of aluminum alloy all around. The front trunk part will be unarmored to save more weight, but it should be there for gearboxes and steering mechanics. Then I can strip away the 7.62mm machine gun and its mount.

As for the cost, it'd probably drop down to $70,000 US, but for an armored personnel carrier this is pretty damn cheap.

As for the car with the engine in the middle, it is an RL sedan, so I doubt you want to buy a sedan.

I don't want the engine in the middle, I want the engine underneath the vehicle so it won't get struck as easily. I apologize, by stomach I meant belly.

I don't want the engine in the middle, I want the engine underneath the vehicle so it won't get struck as easily. I apologize, by stomach I meant belly.

Underneath the vehicle is also within the realm of possibility. But that raises another issue. If it is too high, it can easily be struck by enemy fire. Putting the engine there would increase its overall height.

Do you still want any of the modifications I mentioned?

Yes, it'd like the modifications mixed in with the requested engine configuration. I also wish to talk to you via instant messenger or some other quick way of communication.

Yes, it'd like the modifications mixed in with the requested engine configuration. I also wish to talk to you via instant messenger or some other quick way of communication.

I have AIM: VerdaFolio.

Which modifications do you want?

I have AIM: VerdaFolio.

Which modifications do you want?

We'll discus over AIM.

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BCT-50 MAAV (Mass Armored Assault Vehicle)

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BCT-50 MAAV in 'hunkered down' mode in preparation for its charge

Based on the HT-50 Universal Carrier, its basic design was altered for Buddha C's specifications in their MAAV program. The armor has been reduced by 10mm, uses a lighter alloy, and is covered with ballistic nylon with kevlar armor to supplement. This gives it, its original resistance of 25.4mm RHAe.

The 400hp V-12 Diesel engine provides the extra push for the vehicle to drive it to a fast enough speed for the program's intentions. A battery backup kicks in automatically to drive the wheels forward in case the engine is destroyed or fails.

A foldable front 'shield' to protect infantry from oncoming vehicle fire folds up and reveals a basic bar ladder to help them climb over the vehicle and onto the oncoming vehicle.

Crew: 2 (+6 no cargo)
Length: 4.6 m
Width: 1.9 m
Height: 1.83 m
Weight: 4.2 tonnes
Cargo: 2.7 tonnes
Armour: 25.4mm RHAe on the sides, 37mm RHAe on main cabin
Powerplant: 400hp V-12 Diesel powering a battery backup mounted underneath the vehicle in case of engine destruction
Suspension: 4x4 wheel, leaf spring
Road speed: 125 km/h
Range: 285 km

$85,000 US

We will purchase BCT-50 MAAV 187,500 of these vehicles for 15 billion dollars.

We will purchase BCT-50 MAAV 187,500 of these vehicles for 15 billion dollars.

Order approved, shipping will take around 5 years to complete fully. 20 billion found in account, production rights included. Enjoy.

OOC: We talked on AIM.