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This tank will be workerd one by the SOL members and there allys, and in doing so will be manufactured by all members and allies, so far the founders will be Greal and North Calaveras, and others are welcom to join.

We should put remote control machine guns on top of the tank.

it sounds like a great idea, but only for some versions, because an emp could ruin it, we can upgrade some of those for that.

oh wait are you talking about the machine guns or the main gun?

oh wait are you talking about the machine guns or the main gun?

OOC: The Kraigel's Krizleng Battle tanks have remote control machinegun turrets on the top and a manned one to the right side to the cannon. And to the left of it is a flamethrower add-on. :cool: You should make this tank versatile like my Kizlengs.

this tank is basically an very upgraded soviet T-62, i was thinking of covering this thing with Reactive armor, and uranium lining armor, it will be a little expenisve but availible to all members and allies, im talking about covering it completly with reactive armor.

I meant mackine guns, The main gun controlled by a remote would be fine.



We could install a rocket laucher o the side of the turret.

yes a inferred launcher would be nice, but not very big, like a tow would be good. and as for the machine gun that sounds great.lets make the main gun have an auto loader but not remote controls due to emps it has to be self reliant and durable.

Cazelia would like to buy 200x T-62 tanks

Sighned,
Jonathan Hasley

we havnt finished desining it yet. and you have to be a member or an ally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMtLfm8L7w

here is a video of our tests and pictures of it but it still is going to get the grades.

OCC: This design makes little or no sense. If you serious about designing visit the NS draftroom. Also such an obsolete design will get smashed in NS.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx

what knid of engine is the tank going to have?

get out of here TPF it's our design and it's not going to be horrible, these upgrades will make it a decent contender.

gas turbine is a great engine but it gussles gas, so lets use a deisle. it will go for a lot longer.

get out of here TPF it's our design and it's not going to be horrible, these upgrades will make it a decent contender.

OCC: Well NS won't accept the design unless its well laid out and good. Its just advice. Please visit: http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx
they will gladly help you :)

lets do diesel

so far the upgrades are.....
Diesle engine
full body reactive armor
uranium lining
infered TOW launcher
remote controled machine gun
Auto loader.

it will be well laid out were not going to god mod, it will just be a good reliable tank and can dish out some damage.

so far the upgrades are.....
Diesle engine
full body reactive armor
uranium lining
infered TOW launcher
remote controled machine gun
Auto loader.

Sorry not a part of this but.. wouldn't a uranium lining be not good for the guys inside your tank? Uranium IS radioactive. where there is uraniuml there is lead and where there is lead there is weight and full body ERA is a little...overkil?

I admit Tanks arn't my best feild; I prefer my plane p0rn but just offering some objective thought

How many crew is the tank going to hold?

the engine is going to be a little bigger and i forgot to say it is depleted uranium and of course there will be lead, but were not putting alot on it so we dont over weiht it.

crew? hmmm lets say since we have an auto loader lets make the crew two, driver and gunner(gunner controls machine gun and main gun with tow launcher).

crew? hmmm lets say since we have an auto loader lets make the crew two, driver and gunner(gunner controls machine gun and main gun with tow launcher).

OCC: I would put a Commander. Just advice, makes the tanks run smoother and they have an extra hand to help.

2 crew it is, Why don't we make the tank a little larger then most tanks so it can hold lots of shells and gas.

the engine is going to be a little bigger and i forgot to say it is depleted uranium and of course there will be lead, but were not putting alot on it so we dont over weiht it.

Dupleated Uranium is still radioactive though much less so; it might not kill them but I'd not expect your tank crews to have children anytime soon

Dupleated Uranium is still radioactive though much less so; it might not kill them but I'd not expect your tank crews to have children anytime soon

OCC: The M1 Abrams and numerous other tanks all have DU.

i said there would be lead, and it is a modified T-62, and Greal that sounds good but i dont want it being to expensive. and yes there would be a cammander but that is only in a couple tanks. it will have the room.

how many machine guns is the tank going to hold?

OCC: The M1 Abrams and numerous other tanks all have DU.

they have DU rounds; not armour lining as far as I know; if you can point to a source to correct me on that please do?

and Go with 3 crew; it takes at least 3 to repair a tank in the field if it goes tits up.

we did make it three crew now and it will have DU rounds, and i think the rest should be minor upgrades because were getting a little expenisve now.

3 crew then, most tanks have 3 crew.

they have DU rounds; not armour lining as far as I know; if you can point to a source to correct me on that please do?

and Go with 3 crew; it takes at least 3 to repair a tank in the field if it goes tits up.

Beginning in 1988, M1A1 tanks received improved armor packages that incorporated depleted uranium (DU) mesh in their armor at the front of the turret and the front of the hull.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams#Armor

okay three, nad here are the updated grades.

Diesle engine(enhanced for more power)
full body reactive armor
uranium lining(DU armor but not very thick)
infered TOW launcher
remote controled machine gun
Auto loader.
DU rounds.
Inferred vision.
3 crew and i think this should do it, should we test now greal?

OOC: Not to but in here, but the Abrams has DU rods inserted into the armour to aid in protection.
And TPF is right, the draftroom would help you greatly in building this, especially if you wanted it to be fully capable of standing up to modern NS tanks.

we did make it three crew now and it will have DU rounds, and i think the rest should be minor upgrades because were getting a little expenisve now.

if you were planning on covering the entire outer body in ERA it was already expensive. and yeah DU rounds are fine; I still find lining the entire tank with DU as armour a bit questionable but hey its your crew putting in danger.

Edit: I stand corrected; fair enough; thanks for the source. how do they deal with the radioctivity issue being around that much uranium depleted or not can't be healthy

the ecomnoy and the memebers will produce these but in medium amounts.

okay three, nad here are the updated grades.

Diesle engine(enhanced for more power)
full body reactive armor
uranium lining(DU armor but not very thick)
infered TOW launcher
remote controled machine gun
Auto loader.
DU rounds.
Inferred vision.
3 crew and i think this should do it, should we test now greal?


test the tank

OCC: Come up with a Stat Block first.

okay, but the weakness of this tank is that it is going to be a little loud, not a lot, but a little loud, and its TOW will have limited range to, we dont want to god mod.

making stats now.

How about speed?

the ecomnoy and the memebers will produce these but in medium amounts.

what size and type of gun you planning on sticking on it?
What other metals and things are you using in the armour scheme and how will it be aranged?

and yeah I can see the benifits of something lightly armoured; but faster and with a bigger punch. but bare in mind that with something having light armour means that if it does get hit; its smoldering metal waiting to happen. it speed would be its best defence so you'd want a really good engine in it maybe a 1500-1800 HP or even up to a 2500 since you can make up the weight with less armour

THE SOL T-62 Main Battle Tank

This is the origanl T-62 with the following modifications.
1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander.

oh the gun is a slighly enhanced version of the origianl but basically the same, and the enigne is a 2500 hp engine, but this is because of the lighter DU armor.

good, it sounds like a good tank

THE SOL T-62 Main Battle Tank

This is the origanl T-62 with the following modifications.
1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander.

You need to be more specific
What size engine
what rating for the armour when compared to the original
how many TOW's where are they launched from
How fast can it go
what weapons does it carry
etc etc; take a look at other tanks on NS to get an idea of the things you need to list and how

Type Main battle tank
Place of origin Soviet Union
Specifications
Weight 40 tonnes
Length 6.63 m
Width 3.30 m
Height 2.40 m
Crew 4 (driver, gunner, loader, gunner)

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Armor 153 mm
Primary
armament 115 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm PKMT machine gun in coaxial mount
Engine diesel model V-55
580 hp (463 kW)
Power/weight 14.5 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 450 km, 650 km with extra tanks
Speed 50 km/h


this is the original.

well i dont want to go down to little details.

OOC:


Greal Times reports that 100,000 Greal people were watching the test drive of a test tank made by North Calaveras, Greal, and other countries. millions of more people were watching the test drive on TV.

OCC: As the tests were being taken place, they were being parading down North Calaveras.
OCC:We will only have few of these until we begin more major production.

OOC: The Greal Goverment plans to make 10,000 tanks for its own use and exporting also.

OCC: As the tests were being taken place, they were being parading down North Calaveras.
OCC:We will only have few of these until we begin more major production.

OCC: You guys are mixing up the difference between IC and OCC

IC= In Character
OCC= Out of Character Comment

well i dont want to go down to little details.

I'm afraid thats a part of NS design; if you want people to take your stuff seriously you have to do the little details.

sorry about the OCC confusion, and 10,000 is a bad number right now, lets say 100 at the begininig.

and okay, i will do the details in a bit.

OCC: The Greal Goverment downsize the number of T-62 tanks it plans to make to 120 tanks.

Type Main battle tank
Place of origin Soviet Union,NC,Greal, SOL members
Specifications
Weight 60 tonnes
Length 6.63 m
Width 3.30 m
Height 2.40 m
Crew 3 (driver, gunner, cammander)

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Armor Uranium lining
Primary
armament Upgraded NC, Greal 125 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS with auto loading system
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm Remote machine gun in coaxial mount
Engine modified NC diesel model V-77
2500 hp
Power/weight 41 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 450 km, 650 km with extra tanks
Speed 67 MPH

specific upgrades

1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees, there is one launcher and its fires one TOW, but must be relodied manualy.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander.

there she is.

Type Main battle tank
Place of origin: Soviet Union,NC,Greal, SOL members
Specifications
Weight: 60 tonnes
Length: 6.63 m
Width: 3.30 m
Height: 2.40 m
Crew: 3 (driver, gunner, cammander)

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Armor: Uranium lining
Primary armament: Upgraded NC, Greal 150 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS with auto loading system
Secondary armament: 7.62 mm Remote machine gun in coaxial mount
Engine: modified NC diesel model V-77 - 2500 hp
Power/weight: 20.5 hp/tonne
Suspension: torsion bar
Operational range: 450 km, 650 km with extra tanks
Speed: 67 MPH

specific upgrades

1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees, there is one launcher and its fires one TOW, but must be relodied manualy.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander.

Much better; though you could probably lighten it a bit if the only armour your using is Dupleted Uranium Lining? might want to Add an armour rating in mm's against SABOT and HEAT; and you could probably get 70-80MPH out of the 2500 HP engine ish..

i think im done besides that, i will add kevlar lining for shrapnel effect, and that should be it.

OOC: A few realisim notes from someone who makes a hobby of playing with obsolete tank upgrades.
A 150mm gun is going to be huge, heavy, and at the length you could fit on this tank without breaking it, it will be very under powered compared to modern 120mm guns. And even worse against NS grade tank guns.
A 2500hp engine, despite it being mentioned, will be very large and heavy. Much too heavy for the T62 chassis, and much too large for it. The best you could hope for if you needed power would be something simmilar to the Abrams engine, as a gas turbine. On top of that all the weight added from the engine and gun alone will be a lot more then what the tank has.
Speed is quite high. The fastest tanks in this class even on NS barely go 50mph, and they are very specially designed for that. The average is closer to 40mph. 67mph will force your tracks to tear themselves to pieces, if your engine and transmission don't break first.
And the math for your power-to-weight ratio is a little off, what you have down now is actually 41 hp/t.
I hope that helps you guys out.

edited but we have an upgraded enigne it will allow it, dont worry its complete, besides no one gets it except for my allies and me.

Much better; though you could probably lighten it a bit if the only armour your using is Dupleted Uranium Lining? might want to Add an armour rating in mm's against SABOT and HEAT; and you could probably get 70-80MPH out of the 2500 HP engine ish..

Most modern tanks are governed at 40-45 mph since faster speeds increase the risk of throwing a track (a very bad thing).

The 150mm gun seems like a bit much, for one ammo storage will be quite small. Also, the recoil of a APDFS round fired fro msuch a large cannon will be huge. Guns of that caliber are typical used for HE and demo rounds, like the short barrel 165mm guns used on the old US Combat Engineer Vehicles.

Overall, not a terrible tank but it's no match for the Nakil or Mackall.

OCC: Nakil, FTW

i changed it to a 125 mm gun, i didnt want a very quality tank just a good modern decent tank, that could be produced in medium to larg numbers.

OOC; Upgraded engine or not, the laws of physics still apply. Power advances in modern diesel engines, minus a few select but promising areas, have pretty much reached their limit. The only way to get that without making a huge engine is through certian material and internals advances that would make the engine quite expensive.
I'd suggest you look at how upgrading the T62 has been done in real life.
http://www.morozov.com.ua/eng/body/t62.php?menu=def2.php
Those Ukranians know their tanks very very well.
Edit: Urbara Tirak FTW over the Nakil.
Sorry Mac, but you know it.

okay man, the tank is done no more input please and this engine is good enough, it's almost at its limits but it will get the job done. besides the tanks is pretty light compared to the mods, so the engine will have room.

THE SOL T-62 MAIN BATTLE TANK

Type Main battle tank
Place of origin Soviet Union,NC,Greal, SOL members
Specifications
Weight 60 tonnes
Length 6.63 m
Width 3.30 m
Height 2.40 m
Crew 3 (driver, gunner, cammander)



Armor Uranium lining, with kevalar lining.
Primary
armament Upgraded NC, Greal 125 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS with auto loading system
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm Remote machine gun in coaxial mount
Engine modified NC diesel model V-77
2500 hp
Power/weight 41 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 450 km, 650 km with extra tanks
Speed 67 MPH

specific upgrades

1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees, there is one launcher and its fires one TOW, but must be relodied manualy.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander

here it is the final one, numero uno, the SOL T-62 Main Battle Tank!

We will began producing it soon.

OOC: You wanna go with it, sure. But keep in mind that those engines are going to be breaking down every hour or two because of the strain put on them by the means you would need to go about to get that much power. It would be equal to running propane injection on quad turbo set up, and your engines will essentially burn themselves out.

i said it would have the room for the engine, and as for production keep it low, and it will first come out with a forest green, and black tiger strips, basic camo.

don't worry, I am only making 1 tank per 3 days.

cool, i gtg now, we will have other colors for different situations.

How many tanks is NC going to make?

150, and will continue from there i gtg now.

changed production, 1 tank per day.

Far too fast for it's weight-class. As previously mentioned, there's pretty much no way the thing would be moving faster than 40 or so MPH. Also seems rather small for what you have in it: You're cramming the equipment of an Abrams into the shell of the much smaller T-62, including five times the engine in an even smaller shell (due to enhanced armor plating). It just can't be done.

As for the full uranium armor lining, bad idea. First off, DU is pyrophoric. That means that that it will catch fire on contact with air. This is why RL and NS tanks only use the stuff as reinforcing rods. Secondly, it's still rather radioactive, about 40% as radioactive as standard uranium. That much DU is going to kill the crew. Not instantly, but the sheer amount of radiation coming off of this thing is going to mean a death sentence for anyone that has extended contact with it. Finally, it's pretty damn heavy, with obvious repercussions.

On the subject of the reactive armor, it's just plain stupid to plaster it over the entire vehicle. The undercarriage of the tank obviously won't need it, and a roof mounted ERA panel would most likely damage the tank. There's a reason that modern tanks aren't covered with the things.

Finally, why are you trying to upgrade what's inherently an inferior design in the modern world? At least start from the base of a half-way decent tank, like the T-90 or the Challenger? At least it won't be quite as silly trying to fit a 2500 HP engine into it.

oh i see the need for a smaller engine, and i am not putting reactive armor underneath the tank, im editing now.

[QUOTE=North Calaveras;12678634]THE SOL T-62 MAIN BATTLE TANK

Type Main battle tank
Place of origin Soviet Union,NC,Greal, SOL members
Specifications
Weight 60 tonnes
Length 6.63 m
Width 3.30 m
Height 2.40 m
Crew 3 (driver, gunner, cammander)



Armor Uranium lining, with kevalar lining.
Primary
armament Upgraded NC, Greal 125 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS with auto loading system
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm Remote machine gun in coaxial mount
Engine modified NC diesel model V-66
1800 hp
Power/weight 41 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 450 km, 650 km with extra tanks
Speed 55 MPH

specific upgrades

1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees, there is one launcher and its fires one TOW, but must be relodied manualy.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander

here it is the final one, numero uno, the SOL T-62 Main Battle Tank!

ive reduced the engine to reduce wieght, and by the requests of others, but its not radioactive, the lingin isnt very thick, plus there is lead in the tank as well.

OOC: I used these tanks against the rebels, most of them failed because of mechanial problems

well the mech problems have been fixed okay, so they should be working now, i redused the enigne size to prevent the bad mechs.

bump!

Armor Uranium lining, with kevalar lining.


What is uranium lining? Uranium's use in American chobham armor is unknown but it's generally thought that it's deployed in rods and modules. The idea is that these spaced across the 'special armor' of the tank (the chobham) will mean that penetrators which have impacted will penetrate part of the armor and suddenly hit a dense piece of depleted uranium, inducing yaw on the penetrator and decreasing the eventual total penetration (maybe even breaking the penetrator in several ways).

Uranium is heavy, expensive and I wouldn't suggest using it in solid pieces like this write-up infers.

Primary
armament Upgraded NC, Greal 125 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS with auto loading system

I have nothing against this caliber, but it should be considered that most NS nations use NATO calibers. Perhaps it would be wise to take a census on which caliber is most widely used by nations in this project because logistically it will be easier to afford pre-existing ammunition (even with the new gun).

Power/weight 41 hp/tonne

1.800hp/60mtn = 30

1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh

Like I said in another thread, increasing engine power output depends entirely on the available volume. Soviet armor tends to be a lot smaller than their Western counterparts, meaning you have less volume to fit larger engines in. Soviet/Russian engines tend to be small, but that's fine, because they also tend to weigh less.

2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.

I don't think it will be as effective as you claim it will. Don't get me wrong, I myself use ERA on certain parts of my tanks, but tandem warheads will render most heavy ERA ineffective.

4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees, there is one launcher and its fires one TOW, but must be relodied manualy.

The TOW is an anti-tank weapon. There are existing 120mm rounds that are meant to replace the 165mm demolition gun - these are used against buildings. You can engage small vehicles with a heavy machine gun.

7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.

What does the composition of the round have to do with the weight of the Abrams tank?

OOC: Mac, 41x60=2500, which was his engine output at the time I posted that, it's since been edited down to 1800.

OOC: Mac, 41x60=2500, which was his engine output at the time I posted that, it's since been edited down to 1800.

That string of quotes was one post of his which said a hp/t ratio of 40, with an engine output of 1,800. I was just saying that the math was wrong - even if he just forgot to change some numbers.

i wil fix some calculating problames, and as for DU armor, it is lining, like sheets and layers, but not very thick, and i will keep the full ERA armor, its better than taking it off, the TOW will be used for tanks as well, but it would be effective against vehicel and buildings. of course our machine guns can handle the rest, and it has nothing to do of the abrams weight i was talking about keep the SOL tank form gainng to much weight, so the round is smaller. As for the enigne, we made it more effective, but still not great we want these to go for a long time, not eatup precuios oil like gas turbine designes. thanks for the calc mistakes.

THE SOL T-62 MAIN BATTLE TANK

Type Main battle tank
Place of origin Soviet Union,NC,Greal, SOL members
Specifications
Weight 60 tonnes
Length 6.63 m
Width 3.30 m
Height 2.40 m
Crew 3 (driver, gunner, cammander)



Armor Uranium lining, with kevalar lining.
Primary
armament Upgraded NC, Greal 125 mm smoothbore gun U-5TS with auto loading system
Secondary
armament 7.62 mm Remote machine gun in coaxial mount
Engine modified NC diesel model V-66
1800 hp
Power/weight 30 hp/tonne
Suspension torsion bar
Operational
range 450 km, 650 km with extra tanks
Speed 55 MPH

specific upgrades

1. A enhacned deisle engine provides more strengh
2.This tank is covered in full body Reactive armor, rendering it effective agaisnt most types of incoming missles.
3.the tanks has a Uranium lining, but do to weight it is limited, but still provides much streanth.
4.Inferred TOW launcher enables this monster to hit small vehicels and building with the same range as a humvees, there is one launcher and its fires one TOW, but must be relodied manualy.
5.A remote controled 7.62 machine gun is controld by the gunner.
6.An auto loader enables faster fire ratio.
7.DU rounds increase damage, but are lighter than an abrams due to wieght complications, but none the less effective.
8.Infered camera mounted on the front can pick up troops and exc during night activity.
9. the crew is three, a gunner, driver, and cammander

final results

guys, im not looking for a world beater, just a contender, bringing back the old and making it the new can be a good thing sometimes.

bump, we now have 150 of these in the NC military(training is same except for the new weopons)

production has been speeded up to 2 tanks per day.