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Intelligence Breach [OOC]

DMG
22-05-2007, 01:35
Alright, guys... I have decided to start an RP based on a massive breach in Dominion intelligence. I already have the OP written, so I am just waiting to see what kind of interest I get in it. Most of the information about the RP will be found in there (or not at all, as it will be a surprise), so I will just summarize what's up.

[Note: For ease of writing in the ooc, "spy" will refer to the single person who breached the security and downloaded the data.]

Summary:
A message has been sent through open channels to virtually everyone (any government, organization, group, or whatever). The unidentified person has breached Dominion security and downloaded highly classified information that would be detrimental to the Dominion and very advantageous to anyone who acquires it. Basically, the "spy" is reportedly unaffiliated and only wants a shit load of money out of it. Naturally, the Dominion is scared and up in arms about it... however, for reasons you will read in the OP, they can not take more physical action than some covert agents (this basically means that while the intelligence community will be attempting to find out all the information and stuff, only a couple of agents will actually be on the ground). It is also taking place in Eborall... the first Dominion colony (see factbook for more about it).

Now, I have some twists and turns in mind that I am not going to reveal yet. All I will tell you is that it will not be easy to stop the spy - think super-duber awesome spy.

So, if you want to get involved, you can think of anyway you want and clear it with me. You can secretly attempt to buy the information (outlined in the OP) from the spy; You can send in an agent of your own to attempt to intercept the spy; You can send in an agent of your own to attempt to help the spy. Or other things you can think of.

However, I will restrict and make you aware of a couple things.
A) As I said, this spy is, for now, superly awesome and will not fall, be located, be tricked, etc. very easily.
B) If you attempt to buy the data, don't offer some absurd amount of money like a trillion dollars. A billion perhaps, but try to be a little realistic with it.
C) While the spy is superly-awesome right now, your people will not be. Be prepared for them to potentially fail and/or die (just potentially, I'm not saying it will happen). So don't bother sending your "shadowmen" or "ninja-stars" or "Spec-ops trained in fifty different countries."
D) No sending an army or whatever... that would be just stupid OOCly and ICly.
E) No, your intelligence is not that good. You didn't just locate the spy and the data. Not happening.
F) Also, though this isn't steadfast if you can convince me otherwise, I don't want people attempting to help my people that much.

I could put more rules, but I think you get the trend.

I think that is it... so... any interest (or suggestions) or questions?
[I also need a name for the RP/Story... suggestions?]
Gallique
22-05-2007, 01:41
I don't think my country could be rich enough to engage in the auction, but I'd be elated to participate as a client. I presume that this will be an auction? also, is this modern? because if it is future, I can't entangle with different timelines.
DMG
22-05-2007, 02:06
About being rich enough... as I said, I am attempting to keep this realistic so there will be no bids of a trillion dollars or whatever. A few billion would be the absolute max. So, your country probably could bid on it (from your defense budget or what have you), and it would definitely work ICly considering you are a young nation (some of this data would be very helpful to a young nation).

As to it being an auction... sort of... It'll be an RP/story where occasionally countries try to acquire the data by buying it from the spy. It won't be like: "I bid a hundred dollars," "I bid two hundred dollars." It is more the RP of what happens than just buying something.

Yes, it is modern.

Last thing, however, is that considering you are such a young nation, I kind of wonder about your RPing and writing skill - I'm kinda picky.
Gallique
22-05-2007, 02:11
Well, I like to think that I am a good writer, but French is my primary language. I don't know what to say of this.

Perhaps you like to have watches? You can click on the "HGSA" link and go to my watch store. It's very young, but I'm glad that some people like it.

Other than that, I don't know what else to say about this.
DMG
22-05-2007, 02:12
Well, for now, I will say you can be in... as long as you understand how this is going to work.
DMG
22-05-2007, 03:36
bump
The Black Agents
22-05-2007, 03:49
I would like to send one of our green agents in to help procure the said information about a certain someone.... Hint ( Blane ) hint...<<
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Kahanistan
22-05-2007, 04:02
My government might IC be interested in the information, depending on what it is. If it's something like an uber weapon design, Kahanistanian Intelligence and special forces would be all over it. If it's something like the Supreme Leader having a sheep fetish, it might rate on the scandal sheets but Intel won't care.
Jagada
22-05-2007, 04:08
Jagada would have some interest in the intelligance -- but like Kahanistan, only if its something really worth the money. Although if having a Sheep fetish means I get to overthrow your government and claim lordship over it -- I might be tempted to invest.

Thats a joke btw, but my interest is serious.
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:10
I would like to send one of our green agents in to help procure the said information about a certain someone.... Hint ( Blane ) hint...<<
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Hmm...
A) Remember that this is entirely realistic... ... ...
B) Remember that your guy will not be the best and he could definitely die... (and bullets to kill)
C) Blane has nothing to do with this... yet... (<.<) (>.>)
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:16
My government might IC be interested in the information, depending on what it is. If it's something like an uber weapon design, Kahanistanian Intelligence and special forces would be all over it. If it's something like the Supreme Leader having a sheep fetish, it might rate on the scandal sheets but Intel won't care.

lol, well... it's mostly the following...

1) A list of all my spies everywhere in the world
---Obviously... you kill them...
2) Some military designs currently in use
---Free technology?
3) Some access codes to secure government databases/networks
---Easy hacking into my government/inteligence
4) Our security and military protocols (everything that entails)
---Anything from our response to a terrorist attack to provisional military plans
5) Our Intelligence/government community's encryption and decryption keys
---Access to my communications/I can't make any
6) Documents containing secrets (some stuff about secret military bases and contracting assassinations of certain people... etc.)
---Embarrass my government or use them as a reason to declare war
7) Oh, and possible access to a massive nuclear bomb
---BOMB
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:16
Jagada would have some interest in the intelligance -- but like Kahanistan, only if its something really worth the money. Although if having a Sheep fetish means I get to overthrow your government and claim lordship over it -- I might be tempted to invest.

Thats a joke btw, but my interest is serious.

roflcopters...

Stuff is above
Leafanistan
22-05-2007, 04:18
I'm wondering if he'll include a bunch of codes to the DMG International Bank. A guy wants me to raid his own bank vault on a job and has plenty of money.

If I could get the codes to his vault and all the biometrics, I could easily get that single disc he wants.
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:21
I'm wondering if he'll include a bunch of codes to the DMG International Bank. A guy wants me to raid his own bank vault on a job and has plenty of money.

If I could get the codes to his vault and all the biometrics, I could easily get that single disc he wants.

Sorry, it's not in there. The spy only hacked the government and DIB is not part of the government.
Leafanistan
22-05-2007, 04:28
Sorry, it's not in there. The spy only hacked the government and DIB is not part of the government.

The only thing I'd do with it is put it back on the market with a ridiculous markup.

So I'm in.

Will Mr. Spy accept gifts to things like the Blub's Paradise Island, a fancy new GR-MD Imperium Limosene, whores, and amnesty and a new identity in one of the Leafanistani Colonies, living it up in a fancy villa?
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:32
A) The only thing I'd do with it is put it back on the market with a ridiculous markup.

B) So I'm in.

C) Will Mr. Spy accept gifts to things like the Blub's Paradise Island, a fancy new GR-MD Imperium Limosene, whores, and amnesty and a new identity in one of the Leafanistani Colonies, living it up in a fancy villa?

A) Go ahead and try... though I warn you the spy may fuck you over. :eek:
B) Cool
C) Hmm... can't say for sure. He would probably try to stay unknown considering if his identity was ever found out (after he sold the stuff), the Dominion would make him die a painful death.
Leafanistan
22-05-2007, 04:36
A) Go ahead and try... though I warn you the spy may fuck you over. :eek:
B) Cool
C) Hmm... can't say for sure. He would probably try to stay unknown considering if his identity was ever found out (after he sold the stuff), the Dominion would make him die a painful death.

I mean after I secure the data there isn't much he could do. I would just run a thousand hard copies then sell one of them like it was the only one in the world, and periodically repeat this cycle.

Unless he hacks me back and steals vital Mafia information, like the whereabouts of our massive uranium mines. Of course I think I employ more hackers and script-kiddies than anyone else.
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:41
I mean after I secure the data there isn't much he could do. I would just run a thousand hard copies then sell one of them like it was the only one in the world, and periodically repeat this cycle.

Unless he hacks me back and steals vital Mafia information, like the whereabouts of our massive uranium mines. Of course I think I employ more hackers and script-kiddies than anyone else.

I won't spoil it by saying anything more, but he is no fool... he can do something.

I'll leave the rest of this to the IC.
Leafanistan
22-05-2007, 04:45
I won't spoil it by saying anything more, but he is no fool... he can do something.

I'll leave the rest of this to the IC.

OOC: Promise you won't let this OOC dealing taint the IC. I'll be claiming it under the banner of 'The Republic of the Red Islands' for the Corporate Alliance for our conquering business.
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:46
OOC: Promise you won't let this OOC dealing taint the IC.

I'll be claiming it under the banner of 'The Republic of the Red Islands' for the Corporate Alliance for our conquering business.

Why/how would it taint anything?

Huh?
Leafanistan
22-05-2007, 04:53
Why/how would it taint anything?

Huh?

OOC in IC conflict. Usually a newbie starts attacking me using OOC information and then saying a spy did it. Very Hatarian, but even some experienced players use OOC in IC by saying their experienced commanders would be 'expecting' it.

Of course I don't expect it to be used by you, I sorta put it in there jokingly as a reminder to everyone else who uses OOC threads like a big intelligence basket for their IC regardless.
DMG
22-05-2007, 04:56
OOC in IC conflict. Usually a newbie starts attacking me using OOC information and then saying a spy did it. Very Hatarian, but even some experienced players use OOC in IC by saying their experienced commanders would be 'expecting' it.

Of course I don't expect it to be used by you, I sorta put it in there jokingly as a reminder to everyone else who uses OOC threads like a big intelligence basket for their IC regardless.

Of course I wouldn't. However, if you are talking about the spy doing something if you sell the thing he sold you (at a marked up price), then I wouldn't be using OOC information ICly... both because I (and thus he) had already thought about someone trying to resell it, and because his action would be reactionary.

The "Huh?" was directed towards the second thing you said.
Southeastasia
22-05-2007, 04:57
Nice idea. I have something similar with Hamptonshire, Van Luxemburg, The Kraven Corporation and a few others perhaps, involving a diplomatic conference with the Hamptonian Chief Cabinet Secretary Marcelo Paredes, but alas, Hamptonshire has some issues and I need to arrange some modifications here and there...
DMG
22-05-2007, 05:01
Nice idea.

Thx.


@All: Guys... I still need a name for this... otherwise it is going to get named something like "Intelligence Breach" or "Spy Game" or "Oh fuck..."
Leafanistan
22-05-2007, 05:17
Thx.


@All: Guys... I still need a name for this... otherwise it is going to get named something like "Intelligence Breach" or "Spy Game" or "Oh fuck..."

How about: "Paying the Mortgage", the yuppie Nuremberg defense that this guy will likely make if he ever gets caught.

As for the second statement. I'm not going to be obvious about who is really buying it.
The Black Agents
22-05-2007, 06:26
got it... My guy is nothing like the people who trained Blane. Hell he hasn't even gone through the desert training yet..lol
DMG
22-05-2007, 11:56
How about: "Paying the Mortgage", the yuppie Nuremberg defense that this guy will likely make if he ever gets caught.

As for the second statement. I'm not going to be obvious about who is really buying it.

Hmm... more ideas...

Fine with me.
DMG
22-05-2007, 11:57
got it... My guy is nothing like the people who trained Blane. Hell he hasn't even gone through the desert training yet..lol

Alright... but you understand... I mean NOTHING beyond reality. He is a normal person.
DMG
22-05-2007, 19:22
People Interested
Gallique
The Black Agents
Kahanistan
Jagada
Leafanistan

[i.e. bump!]
DMG
22-05-2007, 22:35
bump
DMG
23-05-2007, 21:02
Perhaps one last bump before we start.
DMG
24-05-2007, 01:35
IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527799)

Do not make OOC posts in the IC thread. That just pisses me off.
Hurtful Thoughts
24-05-2007, 02:30
Qustion:

How 'covert' must this insertion be?

I've been working out EHALO type insertions... (80,000 ft+ jumps)
(May show up as godrod launch/spyplane mission though, depending on how good your radar is at picking up 'static' objects)

Or I could just use an old but semi-reliable submarine and raft method...
(Submarines can be detected)

Or the ever popular "walk into a trap naked" type insertion...
('Nuff said)
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Mendez is Out Of Commission, so my 'best' agent is gone, besides, why would I send a one legged cripple in a wheelchair? (caused by a botched EHALO landing)

My 2nd best is most likely dead (Really botched that Griffencrest assasination attempt)

Agent Ridley (new hopeful replacement) is elswhere.

And most of the others are dead... (I mess up every so often)

That eliminates my 'super spies'.

I guess that leaves 'Donny' Donnovan, former FBIA, which merged with CHIA, most recent mission involved him getting beaten over the head with a power armoured gauntlet... (Thank you Alidor/Ironcia)

wait, isn't he helping defend Dephire? Hmmm, I'll get back to you on who I send...
Most likely a nobody I plan on building into a somebody (if he lives).

I guess I'll call him "Agent Victor Madrid"
DMG
24-05-2007, 03:33
Hmm... I probably should of thought of that (that being how people get their agents in).

I guess you could HALO it in so long as your aircraft is really high. I'll say my aircraft patrolling the skies are pretty low... and the radar isn't as good as it could be.

You could also try sending in a tiny ship/raft considering my patrols can't be perfect (don't actually have that many small patrol ships). Or you could swim?

In rare cases I will also allow people to say they had a spy there already for whatever reason. Or you can hire somebody already on the island...

If you guys are unsure, just post here what your idea is and I will confirm it.
Gallique
24-05-2007, 03:42
Can I just buy? I don't have the sophisticated network of spies.
DMG
24-05-2007, 04:03
Sure, you can attempt to contact the spy through that e-mail and put in a bid, that's part of the RP... (but it's going to be a pretty boring).
Hurtful Thoughts
24-05-2007, 15:54
Well, 'Going in naked' prety much is sending a spy with, well, nothing...

Nothing to tie them to the government, and essentially, a regular passeger on vacation, with only his wits and knowledge of the immediate area to keep him alive...

The hard part is making sure the person you send in (as a NOC) has nothing to tie him to the government or any spy ring when he goes out.

EHALO would be best for one or two well supplied spies...
Biggest risk if they go 'splat' or worse a "half-splat" followed by immediate capture...
(10 minute free-falls, more fun if I 'toss bomb' the spy [inside an HVRPV] from an F-4 Phantom II from 1000 miles away...)
[So far, my country's experiance with this has 50% failure rate, and was the cause of injuries to Agent Mendez, so I'd try avoiding this]

Rafts allow for some variety, but are easier to find, though they tend to favor quick-in/out raids and lots of special supplies.
Not too much can go wrong, besides being found...

GIN favors any sized group, though mostly small ones, with no supplies, are hard to trace, but if things go to a firefight, they get pwnd quickly... So the goal is they don't get that screwed.

Or I could risk walking a fully armed Marine Raider platoon through customs...
(Sarcasm)

I consider 'assuming' that you have spies everywhere is rather cheating, as it lacks creativity, and does not explain why they have what they have too well.

I'll take GIN type insertion... I think I'll enjoy practicing what I preached to TWSP about spies a bit more.
DMG
24-05-2007, 21:33
You didn't have to narrate that all, but fine.

And about "having spies everywhere," you wouldn't have to say that at all. As long as you could create a good story why they were there (like planning to kill the prince or something), then I might accept it.
The Black Agents
24-05-2007, 21:38
I was thin king about having my agent inserted by having him there from the get go... a 6 year long infiltration mission... how that sound?
DMG
24-05-2007, 21:44
Sounds fine with me as long as you can justify why you started the initial mission (6 years ago).
The Black Agents
25-05-2007, 00:11
Don't worry... I will think of something.
DMG
25-05-2007, 01:37
Not worrying, just reminding you.
DMG
26-05-2007, 19:18
By the way guys, if you are looking for information on Eborall, here are some links to look at:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10327608&postcount=4 (scroll down)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=454934
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465724
DMG
26-05-2007, 22:40
@HT: How is Vic planning on flying into Eborall with all traffic into and out of the island colony grounded?

Btw, if anyone wants to talk to me on AIM/MSN as Ottoman has, please do so... they are listed in my profile.
Hurtful Thoughts
27-05-2007, 01:05
Apparently he won't, as he'll soon notice all routes canceled and news of the blokade/quarantine would travel from that.
(He originally planned on sailing to Eborall)

Thus, he'll either be instantly considered qualified for EHALO, I pull the SS-Yahoo, or some other inventive way in...
Victor knows HALO type insertion at least, EHALO gets difficult...
Signal jamming would further complicate matters for little Victor...

Keep in mind, CHIA is operating blind on this...

And they are hoping to get Donnovan's foot in the door for a look around...
No, he won't plan much on giving any transmissions to CHIA from Eborall.
So I'll need to know if the telegram gets a response.
DMG
27-05-2007, 01:32
The message gets a response... I am just finishing up my post tonight.

As for signal jamming... there is none being done yet, unless you meant on your behalf.
DMG
27-05-2007, 05:52
Alright guys, I took a bit, but I got my next post up. It probably has a bunch of mistakes, because I got tired when I was writing it.

Anywho, if you have any questions about it (that is, about clarifying it and not giving anything away), I'll try to answer them.
Hurtful Thoughts
27-05-2007, 08:20
Nah, I like guessing in the dark, you never know what you'll find...

Besides, knowing what all that means before it does anything spoils the fun and challenge of developing a 'foolproof' plan and then watch it go to pieces...
DMG
27-05-2007, 15:11
Adjective is Eborallian

@Kahanistan: How did you make the e-mail addresses not appear as links?

@HT: Are two of those six people the pilots that are returning home? Because they were only cleared for four agents.

Major Note: I've realized that offering a couple hundred million for all this data actually seems a little absurd. Thus I am going to allow NS Reality to take over and have offers cap off somewhere in the hundreds of billions.
Hurtful Thoughts
27-05-2007, 19:13
Yes, because I 'don't plan on leaving a waiting helicopter behind.
Plus, I can claim the 7th is a flight mechanic...

Billions... dang, out of the 5Ps legitimate price range, not that they won't try...

Carrying 500 billion around in a case may attract unwanted attention, similar to when Saddam had 3 semitrailers loaded with American money flee Iraq...

So I'd assume you want money wired, though the 5Ps have something else other than money to offer...
DMG
28-05-2007, 04:26
Well that's clearly only if the bidding gets that high. Plus... wasn't CHIA putting the FP up to it... so they could just give them a little dough.

Depends on what the spy decides on in the end.

And yes, you can certainly try to make offers other than money.
Hurtful Thoughts
30-05-2007, 00:04
Well that's clearly only if the bidding gets that high. Plus... wasn't CHIA putting the FP up to it... so they could just give them a little dough.

Depends on what the spy decides on in the end.

And yes, you can certainly try to make offers other than money.

I made special note not to mention what the E-mail actually said...

CHIA doesn't trust the Mafia for a number of reasons, likewise, the Mafia doesn't trust CHIA...

They are pretty much a group of your 'Robin Hoods' banded together, plus a group of trained followers from the local population, blood cultists... A side benefit from early intervention in the Khornate civil war before the Undershi started dropping nukes on them...

So, to keep things 'fair' I'm not inventing an excuse to send them after 'Robin', at least not yet. As a platoon of well drilled special forces and Khornate Tribesmen armed with full auto shotguns would not make anyone's RP pleasant...

Besides, what would you do if the Agency trying to kill you decided they needed you and then lobbed a couple hundred nillion in your lap?

Chances are, they'd take the money and run, and one can raise a sizeable army with $90 billion, let alone 100 nillion.

Likewise, the Mafia is trying to secretly screw CHIA over...
And make a fair shake of pocket money in the process...

*yes, Nillion... It isn't a real number...
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May I continue my IC and unload my 4 liason (Luciel, Fox, Ethan, and Donnvan) and 1 'Ace in the hole' (Victor Madrid)?
DMG
30-05-2007, 02:50
So, to keep things 'fair' I'm not inventing an excuse to send them after 'Robin', at least not yet. As a platoon of well drilled special forces and Khornate Tribesmen armed with full auto shotguns would not make anyone's RP pleasant...

You mean before or after they are confronted by my military?

And yes, you can make another post, but make sure not to go anywhere... my agent will be showing up (you can mention his car coming if you want).

Sorry guys, I am in the midst of finals. I should be able to post frequently, but just as a heads up I may have a couple nights where I don't (namely tonight and tomorrow).
Kahanistan
30-05-2007, 03:37
@Kahanistan: How did you make the e-mail addresses not appear as links?

When you make a post, do you see the box under the post marked "Automatically parse links in text"? Uncheck it and emails and links will not show up unless you have a "dressed" link, e.g. [URL tag, "www.link.com"]link[/tag].
DMG
30-05-2007, 03:50
When you make a post, do you see the box under the post marked "Automatically parse links in text"? Uncheck it and emails and links will not show up unless you have a "dressed" link, e.g. [URL tag, "www.link.com"]link[/tag].

Ah, very nice, thank you.
DMG
03-06-2007, 19:39
Alright guys, sorry about the slow reply, but as my finals and tests came to a close (actually I have 1 more), I got really sick and it's hard to concentrate and write well...
DMG
27-06-2007, 06:01
Yeah, I know I suck guys... sorry about the sslllooowww reply time, but it's coming now. Anyway, a few comments before I write it up.

@HT: It's really not a big deal, but as you will find out in my post, there are quite a deal more than one car. Easily explainable by the cars being black, it being quite dark (plus the only light would be near you which makes it harder to see in the distance) and because they were traveling in a line.

@Gallique: lol, I love the "etc" part of the message...

@TBA: Is that supposed to be a guy working in my intelligence agency?
If so:
-Know that only Dominion born citizens are allowed to work in it, so if you had planned on him being a TBA agent in a long-time undercover job... think again.
-If, however, you planned on him being a Dominion born citizen working in Intelligence who decides to turn to TBA, know that if he is caught there will be serious consequences for you and he will be executed as a traitor.
-Know that its name, as written in the thread, is Dominion Intelligence Operations (and they would never refer to any section of the government as Department - not that it was done verbally).
-Also, this isn't exactly a matter that "big wigs" are talking about in the bathroom... It's not like talking about that new guy on level 3... it is the most serious intelligence crisis in the history of the Dominion.
If not:
-I don't know what's going on.
Furthermore, in either case, I have nothing to respond to, so if you want your part to continue, that's your job.
DMG
27-06-2007, 09:51
Alright, again I apologizy for the long time between posts. However, I have now written and posted and plan to do so regularly now - though this was done at 4 in the morning, so forgive any poor writing. If I missed anything or left anything out, do tell me.

@Ottoman: I hope you don't mind me taking your agents to the CID HQ.
DMG
27-06-2007, 23:03
@HT: Hey, I just got to make sure that those nations are okay with you taking the money.
Hurtful Thoughts
27-06-2007, 23:53
Yes, I already TGed Wanderjar/New Chitzeland about that.

And I was planning on tying it in with this issue (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=531245).

My country sort of 'owns' parts of it in payment for services rendered about a year ago.

I took money from them instead of my own government because they are more worried about other things than to notice a couple hundred billion missing (so far, I've only managed to spend 8 billion at the Universal exports storefront)

In the end, chances are it would be spotted, that or inflation would bring the value down to the point that the person with the money would be nearly broke. Essentailly, the money is an electronic forgery...

It physically does not exist, but if traeted like real money, ends up with an illegal transfer of funds, that the bank would recall within 30 business days...

Yep, approved 3 hours ago by TG.
haha! Sounds awsome. *Grumbles* ;-)
DMG
28-06-2007, 02:15
It physically does not exist, but if traeted like real money, ends up with an illegal transfer of funds, that the bank would recall within 30 business days...

A bank can't exactly recall money from another bank after transferring it.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-06-2007, 04:19
Interpol, the IMF, and IRS would say otherwise.
As stolen money, it usually would be 'confiscated' as evidence.

Although I was thinking in terms of credit-cards and checks in the event they are lost/stolen.
DMG
28-06-2007, 04:29
You understand why in movies bad guys always ask for the money to be deposited in an offshore account in the Cayman Islands, right?
Groznyj
28-06-2007, 07:14
Hey I was wonderıng ıf ıts not too late for me to get ın on thıs,

If Yes:

My man ıs an expatrıated Groznıan cıtızen and a former spy for the ıntellıgence agency. He no longer has any love for the government or country and ıs lıvıng lıfe as a temporarılly retıred rogue agent. If the government ever found out he was tryıng to get hıs hands on thıs ınformatıon ıt would be hıs head so he wıll eıther try to sell ıt to the Russıan or Chechen Mafıas, or on the open market, whıchever pays more. Thınk dıssavowed agents ın the fırst Mıssıon Impossıble and he ıs somethıng lıke that. And due to not so honorable actıons ın the past, ıf exposed he may be a wanted target for the Domınıon`s fırıng squad.

What do you say
DMG
28-06-2007, 07:34
Sure, you can still get in, but two things:
1) If he is a single person, how do you intend on acquiring the information from the spy. I doubt he can afford it himself, unless for some reason those mafias would pay him extra to act as a middle man (which would not be too smart on their part). Or is he just going to try to track down the spy and use lethal force to acquire the data?

2) How do you expect him to get onto the island? It's pretty locked down...
Groznyj
28-06-2007, 07:44
1: Over hıs lıfetıme the man has aqcuıred consıderable fınancıal contacts and ends. (Im thınkıng of the arms dealer from MI now) Basıcally he has hıs fıngers ın everyones easter basket, drug rıngs, arms contractors, the mafıa, most of ıt black market and not on the books, he even has a lıttle dısk wıth ınfo on an obscure mılıtary account ın Groznyj (one reason a pruchase would make hım so wanted ıs that ıt could ımplıcate the government).

A purchase thıs large would bankrupt hım and force hım to take a number of large loans from arms dealers and the mafıa as well as mılk every favor he ıs owed. He wıll try to swındle the spy out of the ınformatıon ıf he sees an oppurtunıty (dont worry thıs ıs no superspy and I wont wank ıt ICly, I would be amused ıf he ends up wıth a green-red bubble gum grenade on hıs forehead)

2: I was assumıng for sake of convenıence he lıves ın Eborall. He ıs an expatrıate and to all extents a Ronın. ( my 2 favorıte spy movıes :D )
Hurtful Thoughts
28-06-2007, 13:46
You understand why in movies bad guys always ask for the money to be deposited in an offshore account in the Cayman Islands, right?

Because it avoids jurisdiction?
And they don't want to invade lest they find their own account records?

Though screwing over the Swiss or Cayman banking system is a pretty good way to get a price on your head.

Since the money is able to be considered stolen or a forgery.

In the end, after the Chitzi banks figure out they're missing over $1 trillion in funds, plus attempting to finance a civil war, they'll start printing money without any federal resserve backing, raising inflation, and making the money wired nearly worthless in a matter of days.

Another little loophole though, would be changing the currency as soon as possable through a 3rd party/false identity, before the inflation kicks in.
Emporer Pudu
28-06-2007, 14:08
In the end, after the Chitzi banks figure out they're missing over $1 trillion in funds, plus attempting to finance a civil war, they'll start printing money without any federal resserve backing, raising inflation, and making the money wired nearly worthless in a matter of days.

Another little loophole though, would be changing the currency as soon as possable through a 3rd party/false identity, before the inflation kicks in.

First of all; that's hilarious.

Now, moving on...

I may be interested in getting involved, I have Frumentarii agents operating in most countries, and I'm sure there are some near Eborall, but as that's apparently an island, they'll have to make some kind of spy-appropriate appearance.

They're highly trained, but not very experienced I imagine, as I have only really put the network to use like... once...

In that regard, I wouldn't mind if one or all of them get pinged off, we can always just deny it happened anyway.

I would like to be in.
DMG
28-06-2007, 22:50
@Groz: That's fine. I told someone (TBA, I think) earlier that they could have their spy already in Eborall if they could provide some back story for him being there (whether it is on a long term mission or he escaped them to retire). Just something that makes sense and is interesting.

@HT: The spy was going to most likely demand it be in USD.

@Pudu: Sure, you can hop in - the more the merrier. Just clear with me how your guys are going to get into Eborall or whatever.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-06-2007, 00:01
@HT: The spy was going to most likely demand it be in USD.

That's OK.
The bank that does the switch would be rather miffed, but it wouldn't be anything that can't be protected from prying eyes.*

Can I 'tag' the money electronicaly?
(Ask banks to track specific banknotes/transactions)
[No]

CHIA/HOI can't "Officially' help the 5P Mafia;
but that doesn't stop them from swapping favors,
under the table of course.
DMG
29-06-2007, 00:40
Well, seeing as he will ask for it to be sent to a bank he knows he can trusts (equivalent of RL Cayman or whatever), I doubt you will be able to track it. He might also transfer it immediately to lots of accounts across the world.

Also... blue dye would only for cash...
Hurtful Thoughts
29-06-2007, 03:57
Well, seeing as she will ask for it to be sent to a bank she knows she can trusts (equivalent of RL Cayman or whatever), I doubt you will be able to track it. She might also transfer it immediately to lots of accounts across the world.

Also... blue dye would only for cash...

I suppose you didn't watch the episode of NCIS where they did track an electronic transfer of funds across the globe, through a few mirrors, and back to the source.

But:
A] That was a TV show
B] It was depicting a hyper-advanced US intel/investigation network that in reality isn't quite that good
C] Massive government sponsored spy-hunters the 5 Point mafia is not.

Thus, I'll let the money remain untraced, since a tracing program imbedded in the transfer may be detected. Unnecessary risk...

She? Giving away a bit too much information there.
Or it's a red herring, you want me looking for a young girl when I'm supposed to be looking for an extremey old woman with a walker!
DMG
29-06-2007, 04:04
I suppose you didn't watch the episode of NCIS where they did track an electronic transfer of funds across the globe, through a few mirrors, and back to the source.

But:
A] That was a TV show
B] It was depicting a hyper-advanced US intel/investigation network that in reality isn't quite that good
C] Massive government sponsored spy-hunters the 5 Point mafia is not.

Thus, I'll let the money remain untraced, since a tracing program imbedded in the transfer may be detected. Unnecessary risk...

She? Giving away a bit too much information there.
Or it's a red herring, you want me looking for a young girl when I'm supposed to be looking for an extremey old woman with a walker!

Back to the source? Wouldn't you be the source? Plus, it doesn't really matter if you know where the money is... it's not like that would help you find the spy.

Sorry, I was on the road today from 7am to 9pm... I stopped at my grams' house and got brief access to internet while I was talking with her. Got distracted.
Emporer Pudu
30-06-2007, 17:39
@Pudu: Sure, you can hop in - the more the merrier. Just clear with me how your guys are going to get into Eborall or whatever.

I was gonna RP them arriving offshore in a small sub, and, underwater, deploying one of those little inflatable raft-jobs, and outboard-motoring it up' the rest of the way in.

Once we're actually on land, I'll move 'em into major cities or do whatever seems appropriate at the time...

Total, I think I'll drop off four guys. I'm working on these guys as I type...
DMG
30-06-2007, 17:45
I was gonna RP them arriving offshore in a small sub, and, underwater, deploying one of those little inflatable raft-jobs, and outboard-motoring it up' the rest of the way in.

You'll probably want to note that the island is surrounded by ships and subs scanning the surface, water, and air.
Emporer Pudu
30-06-2007, 19:22
You'll probably want to note that the island is surrounded by ships and subs scanning the surface, water, and air.

Indeed. The submarine does not intend to close with the island by any means, to avoid just that, and the inflatabe craft itself is rather small enough to avoid detection by radars, although should a helicopter or such thing happen upon it, trouble would ensue.

Also, I have decided that only three agents would attempt this journey, while a contact, the fourth, waits on the island. The idea behind the Frumentarii are that they get inside most, if not all, of the world's major players, to await future activation. Mayhap this one was assigned to you, and found his home on the island, where no other Frumentarii were already.

He would have a small home, out-of-the-way, and provide a small amount of local knowledge to the others.

One more thing, of these four agents, only three are actually going to be Frumentarii. I'll explain it better when I post, but basically, we sent three competing agents, each believing that they have to acquire the disk on their own, and that the others are just pawns to distract the seller or the authorities.

The fourth man, is not Frumentarii. He is a member of the 42nd Division, Light Infantry, and a deadly proffesional. The thing is, he is only here to watch, and should the three other agents die, he'll simply leave. He has not enough muscle to take the disk, he knows this, and he wasn't given access to any funds, due to the nature of the rebbellion of the 42nd Division in years past. He is a handler, and will not interfere, and so I am going to write him as the kind of "immortal" sort of super-spy you wanted to avoid. He just won't do anything.

Other than that, I think that's all. I worked out a rough bio and loadout for each agent, tagged with their names. I can post that whenever you want it.
DMG
30-06-2007, 20:33
Most of that sounds good.

However, I'd add a little bit at the beginning about the difficult of getting to the island without detection. Even dinghies can be detected and there are helicopters flying low over the water.
Emporer Pudu
30-06-2007, 21:00
Most of that sounds good.

However, I'd add a little bit at the beginning about the difficult of getting to the island without detection. Even dinghies can be detected and there are helicopters flying low over the water.

Alright then, fair enough. I just read through your post where you mobalized a whole fleet around the place, didn't realize it was that fortified.

We can swim in. We'll be just like dolphins, but with guns!

Alright, I've got a first post up, just about me finding out and deciding what to do about it. Also send an e-mail to the Robin Hood fellow. I'll post the bit about them entering as soon as I can.
DMG
30-06-2007, 21:45
We can swim in. We'll be just like dolphins, but with guns!

Aye, I will be bringing in some characters soon the same way.
Emporer Pudu
30-06-2007, 22:13
Aye, I will be bringing in some characters soon the same way.

Alright then, I'll post their arrival sometime tonight, probably.
DMG
30-06-2007, 22:13
Alright then, I'll post their arrival sometime tonight, probably.

Take your time... I'm trying to get everyone, if not most people, who are in this to post before mhy next one.
Groznyj
01-07-2007, 07:11
Wow, awesome rp. Im almost fınıshed readıng ıt and I got to say readıng ıt ıs lıke readıng a spy thrıller or Tom Clancy novel. DMG that thıng you dıd wıth the past and present dısplayed sımultaneously was excellent. Thıs thread has some of the best lıtterature I have seen on NS. I wıll post soon.
DMG
01-07-2007, 07:23
lol, thanks... a little high complimented in my opinion, but I (and everyone else) will take it.
DMG
01-07-2007, 08:49
Groz, for some reason the "i"s aren't dotted in your posts. Odd?

@All: It looks to be a good number of posts, so I'll get one up late tomorrow.
Groznyj
01-07-2007, 11:02
Thats cuz Im on vacatıon wıth relatıves ın Istanbul. The turkısh alphabet has a ı and a i but sınce the normal 'i' ıs way to the rıght and the 'ı' ın ıts place I'll just be usıng blınd eyes tıll I get home... ın 2 and a half weeks:p
Emporer Pudu
01-07-2007, 14:16
I am going on a vacation for the next week, and although I will have computer-access, I will probably only be able to post once a day.

I'm hoping to write up a post in the car on the way, and post it when I get there, and have the internet again...

We'll see how well that works.
DMG
01-07-2007, 16:17
Ah.

That's fine with me Pudu if you can only post once a day. That's all you really need. But I guess we'll see...
Hurtful Thoughts
01-07-2007, 21:30
I won't be able to post between July 14th and 22nd.
DMG
01-07-2007, 23:25
Well, that's still two weeks off, so he will see where we are at then.
Emporer Pudu
05-07-2007, 21:02
Well, that's still two weeks off, so he will see where we are at then.

I am sorry, but I don't think I'll be able to post this week.

I had to walk six miles lugging my laptop and power supply to find this WiFi network... I don't know how regular my attendance can be.

I'll put something up this coming Sunday, when I return.
DMG
05-07-2007, 21:50
@Emperor Pudu: Aight, whatever works for you.

@All: Yeah, yeah. I didn't post when I said I would... been fatigued as of late.
MixFingaz
05-07-2007, 22:05
At 2000hrs today we intercepted a number of communications and digital signals through our Communications HQ at Bartos Air Force base. We have confirmation of your breach and understand FULLY what the implications are. Information contained within that breach is highly sensitive and we do NOT want it falling into the 'wrong' hands. Because of this we have decided to take action:

At 2045hrs today I ordered a 2 team 8 man unit from the 27th Special Air Force to gather any intelligence together that they needed and prepare to track down this 'spy' Preparations are under way and full search operations will begin shortly. This must not be allowed to happen, The intelligence must not be sold.

Jarvos Thomson
Prime Ministers Office
Kindom Of MixFingaz
Hurtful Thoughts
06-07-2007, 07:09
-snip-
Please try the IC thread.

IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527799)

Do not make OOC posts in the IC thread. That just pisses me off.

It is also a closed RP.
Ask DMG nicely.
DMG
07-07-2007, 05:54
Sorry Fingaz, but I am going to say no.
Emporer Pudu
08-07-2007, 14:36
Alright, I'm back, I'm home, and I have internet!

Expect a post today.
Emporer Pudu
09-07-2007, 05:04
Alright, I'm back, I'm home, and I have internet!

Expect a post today.

Or not... Sorry,

I guess I'm waiting for a response from angel@dominion.mil.

Once a deal is arranged I can arrange to insert agents or not.
Kahanistan
09-07-2007, 06:43
Or not... Sorry,

I guess I'm waiting for a response from angel@dominion.mil.

Once a deal is arranged I can arrange to insert agents or not.
Basically, that's what I'm waiting for, too.
Hurtful Thoughts
09-07-2007, 15:36
Basically, that's what I'm waiting for, too.

And here...

And the Mafia is still holding out on paying up to $500 billion
From their POV, they are saving 400 billion dollars.
:rolleyes:
DMG
09-07-2007, 20:59
Aight, aight... I am trying to post.