NationStates Jolt Archive

General Announcement
The Peoples Freedom has announced that it will expand the military base network in North Calveras to be able to house an feed 62,000 men. It will also house additional areas for tanks, artillery, and other motors.The Port facility is set to be able to house additional warships and submarine pens. Finally, The Peoples Freedom has announced it will place an unspecified number of medium-ranged ICBM missile silos in order to create a strategic base in the area. TPF cannot confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear,chemical, or biological weapons on these missiles.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS


we the party, have decided on a emergency meeting due to the hightend state of awarness, and we request that TPF, withdrawl from sending these units. In doing so will hightend our alert and can be dangerous, and when the occupation was over he never said he do something this outragous.

Official Republican Monarchy Stance

We support the enlargement of the base in NC for many reasons. One being that the continuing proliferation hard-line communist propoganda and the continued support of the Regime of Free Angola.

OCC: i stoped supporting him in the war, i even told him he might be able to come back, but i said he is not getting any help in his war.

OCC: i stoped supporting him in the war, i even told him he might be able to come back, but i said he is not getting any help in his war.

OOC: So? Thats my governments stance and if some of it's false oh well.

you guys are pulling a cuban missle crisis on me. for warnign i do have nuclear weopons

you guys are pulling a cuban missle crisis on me. for warnign i do have nuclear weopons

OOC: So do I. But I have lots more.

can i ask why you guys are doing this? it sort of came out of the blue.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS


we the party, have decided on a emergency meeting due to the hightend state of awarness, and we request that TPF, withdrawl from sending these units. In doing so will hightend our alert and can be dangerous, and when the occupation was over he never said he do something this outragous.

Stace Department Communocation
We will not withdraw. Construction begins next week.

oh you wont.

The military has gone to red alert, the reserves have been called upon and bombers and on high alert, the navy has began to deploy around the coast.

IF you continue with this course of action, the base will be strangled from resources and will probably lead to war, i dont want a war, but this is outragious.

State Department Communication
Any blockade upon the base will be considered an act of war and will be dealt with.

buildng ICBMs next to me is a very high risk, i wont allow it. what did i do to you to have this happen?

what a dirty move.

OCC: Is this OCC or IC?

you created it.

i gtg

OCC: Your comments. Are you going to let me build it or are you blockading it?

TO: Head of State of People's Freedom
From: Lord Governor Jack Slovic

We offer to help you suppress these's NCCP rebel's by airdropping our 101st Airborne Troops, about 60, armed with FAL carbine's and M1911 pistol's. Let us know if you wish this help, for we had a communist conflict 1 year ago this day. Thank you for your time,

Lord Governor
Jack Slovic
Dominion of Calizorinstan
United States of Calizorinstan

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NC

To:The Peopl'es Freedom
From: Kash Wilson

After all yuo have done to us, you still havent had your fill? Look, i really dont want a conflict with you, i dont want to harm anyone, but why would you do something like this, i havnt heard your excuse? For what reason do you have to threaten the soviernty of a nation. Bringing weoponary like that to our borders. I would like to not have a conflict with you, but these deployments are outrageous.

OOC: Bit of a tip, TPM. A medium range ballistic missile(which is one with a range of 1,000-3,500 kilometers) is not called a medium range ICBM. Its called a MRBM.

whatever, still dangerous.

and as for letting you build it or blockading it, i still havent came up with a decision.

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Ministry of Defense

To the nation of North Calaveras:

We have heard of the unwarranted aggression against your nation by the forces of The PeoplesFreedom, and we are announcing our intention to establish our own strategic bases within range of the nation of North Calaveras and the military forces of TPF.

These bases will be capable of hosting forces from our Strategic Air Command as well as 50,000 ground troops and our own strategic weapons, including ICBM and IRBM missiles capable of hitting any and all enemy targets in the area. We will commence work on these facilities immediately and will begin to move naval forces in to the region to ensure that there are no incidents that may prevent us from pursuing the establishment of these facilities.

Construction of these facilities will begin immediately to ensure we retain a strategic edge,
Proconsul Aleksei Vlasikov, Ministry of Defense

i tg you vet.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS

The party decided today to allow Vetalia deployment, of DEFENESIVE weoponry.

To the Nation of North Calaveras

All of our military equipment is strictly defensive. The only way we will use it offensively is if we are attacked first.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS

we are glad there are others out that support nations, that are being compromised by tyrants.

State Department Communication
This is to inform NC that construction has begun.

Ministry of Defense

This is to inform TPF and NC that construction has begun on our own facilities in the area. Naval command group SEACOM-5 will be stationed in the area to ensure security during the construction process.

i havnt heard your excuse as to why you are doing this in the first place.

State Department Communication
The Peoples Freedom needs no 'excuse' we are simply expanding the military base and deploying missiles to create a strategic base in the region.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS

TPF, if you dont cease these actions in 10 minutes your base will be strangled from supplies.

Official Imperial International Message

The Imperial Kingdom expresses its support towards all TPF forces in the area, The disease that is communism if it can not be eradicated it must be contained and not allowed to spread elsewhere. TPF has the economic support of the Imperial Kingdom, should hostilities erupt the Imperial council and myself will meet to discuss possible military support or intervention


Emperor Nadov III of Gataway

War Department Communication
Once again, we would like to inform NC that any blockade upon our bases will mean an act of war against TPF and will be dealt with. As such, we have put a Marine Reaction Force on standby, and Army, Navy, and Air Force assets have been given the go-ahead to start deployment.

Reinforcements:
Three Marine Infantry Divisions
One Marine Armored Division
One Marine Air Combat Group
One Naval Battle Group

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS

Gataway, and TPF, we want to resolve things peacfully, but these hostile actions are outragous, im giving you 5 more minutes to cease operations, our military is organizins we would never fire on you, unless we were threatend, please we dont want a war.

OOC: I am assuming this base is alot like Guantonamo(SP?) in Cuba, legal wise? If so...

IC: Official Statement from the TSRT Government
"We fully hereby support the The Second Reich of The PeoplesFreedom in this situation. They have every right to install whatever weaponry they see fit in their military bases oversea's or on their own territory. We will take no action for now, but warn The People's Republic of North Calaveras that aggressive actions taken against the base or its supply route will not be tolerated."
End Message

War Department Communication
Once again, we will not tolerate any blockade and we WILL be building the base. This is our Final Stand. We will not communicate with you further on this matter.

Ministry of Defense

We strongly suggest that no nation involved in this situation go to war at this time. North Calaveras, we request that you halt your attempt to blockade TPF's base construction, and we ask that TPF halt its hostility against the nation of North Calaveras. Failure to do so will result in military action.

In this regard, the Vetalian Armed Forces will increase their strength accordingly:

1 additional naval command group
2 bomber wings
5 air squadrons
2 air logistics squadrons

1 infantry division
1 armored division

OCC: Just so you know, Vet, that this is legal. I have permission to have a military base in NC per his surrender treaty. Thus if you attack me, I would have the legal side on my side.

yes you do have a base and and a dock, but srbms and expansion is unacceptable.

OOC to TPF: I'll need to see the exact wording of the treaty to be sure. However, currently, I'm just building up my own forces for security reasons. I don't want this place to go up in flames and I want a balance of power to be maintained in this area.

OOC: Can I see a copy of this treaty?

Imperial Response to Northern Calaveras

The Imperial Kingdom does not seek war. The strategic deployment of weapons of any kind by TPF forces is entirely sound and since the weapons are being deployed to TPF controlled territory they have the right to do so unless TPF forces initiate new aggressive actions which the weapons being deployed are for deterent purposes, The Imperial Kingdom will stand by its pledge of support for TPF forces and will mobilize its own forces if deemed necessary. The Imperial Kingdom will view any blockade imposed on TPF's base as a direct act of war which may lead to deployment of Gatawan military forces.

Emperor Nadov III of Gataway

OOC: Can I see a copy of this treaty?

OCC: Its on Word somewhere, let me dig it up.
Edit: here:
Alright. When you get back we will discuss surrender terms with your president. These are the points I am thinking
[Occupied until these demands are met]
1. Resignation of the Communist Party
2. Creation of new Police Force and Military
3. a Nation wide vote for new presidents, congressmen, etc.
4. Reconstruction
5. Trade concessions
6. Construction of a military base.

Once these are met, all my men will leave, and will let you leave your country, however, I will retain 30,000 Army soldiers, 5,000 Marine and a yet undetermined amount of Naval ships and aircraft in your nation.

This is the only copy I have. I also TGed NC that I have the right to change this at any time.

there was no actual treaty, my president took his terms.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NC

We have decided, in the hopes of no violence, to not blockade your base, be we will keep construction from expanding it, food and other supplies may be brought in.

Ministry of Defense

We agree with the Gataway proclamation, and wish to reaffirm our commitment to maintaining solely defensive strategic deployments in the area. We hope that no nation breaches this peace, but if it does happen we will be forced to act.

OCC: Its on Word somewhere, let me dig it up.
Edit: here:
Alright. When you get back we will discuss surrender terms with your president. These are the points I am thinking
[Occupied until these demands are met]
1. Resignation of the Communist Party
2. Creation of new Police Force and Military
3. a Nation wide vote for new presidents, congressmen, etc.
4. Reconstruction
5. Trade concessions
6. Construction of a military base.

Once these are met, all my men will leave, and will let you leave your country, however, I will retain 30,000 Army soldiers, 5,000 Marine and a yet undetermined amount of Naval ships and aircraft in your nation.

This is the only copy I have. I also TGed NC that I have the right to change this at any time.

what right, and by the way you got your way, you have a naval and military base, you said the party could run and they won, nothing in that says expansion of the base after it was completed and stratigicly placed weoponry.

OCC: Then blockade it. Construction has begun. Either you blockade or let me build it.

what right, and by the way you got your way, you have a naval and military base, you said the party could run and they won, nothing in that says expansion of the base after it was completed and stratigicly placed weoponry.

It also doesn't say he can't construct them...

OOC: But there is nothing in there prohibiting it either. Therefore, its legal. I am checking to see if thats what the treaty actually says, so Ill be back.

OOC: But there is nothing in there prohibiting it either. Therefore, its legal. I am checking to see if thats what the treaty actually says, so Ill be back.

OOC: Great minds think alike.

To: The People's Freedom


We announce that after much consultation with source's that will not be named for security reason's, to not help you with NC, for we've decided it's a conflict of our interest's to help you, we regret this very much. But it must be done, for our greater good.

Thank you for your understanding,
Lord Governor Jack Slovic
Calizorinstan

you guys are somethin you know that, picking on me because im not as big as you, these actions are no doubt in good faith, but a good way of watching me so i dont slip up, did you even know that he has men in my country that are watching my president.

OOC: This is why you always want your treaties to be specific. Even so, I'm still putting my own stuff here to ensure a balance of power is kept in place.

he's a sleezy fascist trying to conquer and enslave. Everyone know i dont want trouble so why are you doing this to me?

you guys are somethin you know that, picking on me because im not as big as you, these actions are no doubt in good faith, but a good way of watching me so i dont slip up, did you even know that he has men in my country that are watching my president.

OCC: Okay I'm assuming no further action is being taken and I assume construction will finish soon.

OOC: Seeing that NCs government allowed it, my government isnt going to object.

OOC: Our base will be completed shortly as well.

he's a sleezy fascist trying to conquer and enslave. Everyone know i dont want trouble so why are you doing this to me?


Here's the problem, you are taking this way to personally. Yes it probably does make you mad that he is doing this, but oh well. Deal with it. Don't whine and moan about how he is just trying to enslave you, boo hoo. That may work for a few nations, but not everyone's gonna care. RP it, and RP it well. Put some effort into your posts, atleast 5 sentences and you'll be amazed at how much better your RPs have become.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS


The president has been transported to Vetalia for security reasons, no doubt your men are still lurking around NC with bad intensions.

Ministry of State

We have agreed to give the North Calaveras president asylum in our nation. We feel this will create an environment more conducive to negotiations by increasing security in this tense period.

me complaing about him waving srbm in my face is whining, if that's whining what if i did the same to you sir, no doubt you would have the same reaction.

me complaing about him waving srbm in my face is whining, if that's whining what if i did the same to you sir, no doubt you would have the same reaction.

OCC: He means you are complaining OCCly. Thats very, very bad form.

ooc: My nation would nuke itself before supporting communists...thus I stand by TPF regardless of what size your nation is...I've already fought the communists in Zambistan along with a few members of GASN or whatever that communist alliance is named...Had Jemzi divisions are fanatical Elite divisions like the SS in ww2 just with no genocidal agenda =)

IC:

Due to raised tensions the Imperial Kingdom has placed the following units on rapid deployment standby:

1 Mechanized Infantry Division
2 Airborne Assault Infantry Divisions
2 Had Jemzi Divisions
1 Armored Division

1. Carrier battlegroup with 1 Zealous class superdreadnaught among the escorting ships...
total aircraft number 220 mix of carrier based craft and helicopters

Maybe i am, but how can you disagree, am i supposed to bend over and just take it?

Maybe i am, but how can you disagree, am i supposed to bend over and just take it?

Pretty much, makes for a better RP that way.

OOC: ICly, yes, you can, but expect people to react various ways.

OOCly, no, holding OOC grudges on here is a very good way to do something that will get you banned.

OCC: GATAWAY, you, TPF, Granate, are in fact fascists tryign to attack a communist nation, while we have never done anything wrong to you, bullying other nations is not that great of form either sir.

OCC: GATAWAY, you, TPF, Granate, are in fact fascists tryign to attack a communist nation, while we have never done anything wrong to you, bullying other nations is not that great of form either sir.

OCC: Actually, it is. Bigger nations gain up on smaller nations and same-sized nations of different ideologies all the time.

To prevent any confusion, we have currently based the following forces in the region:

2 naval command groups
5 bomber wings
10 air squadrons
3 air logistics squadrons

3 infantry divisions
1 armored division

10 ICBM installations
25 IRBM installations
Various tactical weapons for use by SAC bombers against enemy targets.

War Department
This is an update to forces in the region that TPF will also know be constructing ABM defenses in the area.

OCC: GATAWAY, you, TPF, Granate, are in fact fascists tryign to attack a communist nation, while we have never done anything wrong to you, bullying other nations is not that great of form either sir.

OOC: If I am facist then what does that make you? Seriously all you're doing is flaming and not very well at that. You don't see me calling you a FUCKING COMMIE do you?

OOC: If I am facist then what does that make you? Seriously all you're doing is flaming and not very well at that. You don't see me calling you a FUCKING COMMIE do you?



wow there, calm down.

OCC: Enough OCC spam in my thread. Take it to an OCC thread.

okay im sorry if i am having bad form but there is a lot of pressure on me that i really dont need. for the umptinth time i dont want a conflict.

ooc: My nation is more like a roman republic than a facist dictatorship the Emperor serves with the Imperial council...anyways my nation despises communism thus why very often if possible I do anything I can to aid in the destruction of communist parties or communist countries etc etc regardless of their size..again citing the Zambistan example which is a country basically the same size as me and with other communist support..that war ended in a draw...I dont bully just you or anything like that I "bully" communist states in general since I am very much against their ideaology and several times I have been "bullied" myself thankfully I have plenty of allies that concludes my spill...

wow there, calm down.

I was using it for reference, because I am in fact quite calm.

The NC military is now rallying its first troops, the coast and cities are being reenforced(bunkers, barbed wire, minefields) this should take a week.

List of first line defenders.

10 divisions of the people's army
5 divisions of the Revolutionary Gaurd(Marines)
16 Divisions of the Revolutionary Youth
1 division of Red ops

The people armored core

4 divisionsons of upgraded T-62 tanks

this list will increase when tensions do.

OCC: Is that a declaration of war, and are you blockading or just mobilizing?

Ministry of State

We wish to announce we will also deploy our own ABM defenses in the area, and ask that North Calaveras cease its militarization as it is not in any nation's best interests at this time. A war would cause untold damage to their nation as well as the states involved in the current crisis.

In fact, we propose that the area between the Vetalian and TPF bases be demilitarized until negotiations are concluded.

OCC: Are you creating a base in his country? If so that puts us in a bit of a spot.

we are just preparing incase. no offensive action will be taken.

We have decided to side with North Calaveras on this issue





North Calaveras, may we send 5 divisions to your country to help against this aggression?




signed,


Minister of Defense: Clark Bent

sorry Greal this is to big for you at the moment, but we will have diplomatic and economic relations with you.

sorry Greal this is to big for you at the moment, but we will have diplomatic and economic relations with you.



can we sell some nukes to you?

OCC: NC, you need to start putting OCC in front of OCC comments.

OCC: Are you creating a base in his country? If so that puts us in a bit of a spot.

OOC: I'm putting up a base within range of your own facilities, but it's more or less on the border of North Calaveras. The idea is to keep our defenses at the border so that making a DMZ is possible.

OOC: I'm putting up a base within range of your own facilities, but it's more or less on the border of North Calaveras. The idea is to keep our defenses at the border so that making a DMZ is possible.

OCC: How many miles away is this?

OCC: Greal im going to ignore the fact that you have nukes, youve not even had 100 postes, no greal but thanks, we will be friends, im in bit of a spot right now.

Do you guys want to avoid war?

Do you guys want to avoid war?

OCC: Use the 'OCC' tag.

OCC: Yes i do, im not so sure about them.

what does OCC stand for? I just started posting yesterday evern though I joined last month

OCC: How many miles away is this?

OOC: Depending on the size of their nation, probably anywhere from 500 to 3,000 miles. That's within range of the air forces, ABMs and IRBMs I'm deploying. The ICBMs, obviously, have a lot longer range, but that doesn't matter too much for the purposes of this base. It needs to be close enough to reach things throughout North Calaveras, but not so close that I'm right next to your bases. That would be impossible since no nation on earth would allow us to deploy weapons like that.

The idea is to be a strategic deterrent to prevent any side from doing more than having a base in the nation.

what does OCC stand for? I just started posting yesterday evern though I joined last month

OCC: Have you read the stickies? If not, read them.

ooc: Any possible map?


IC:

Message to TPF forces in the area

The Imperial Kingdom requests to send our standby forces to TPF territory in the area and to allow our naval detachment access into TPF waters and ports as a show of force and support

Nadov III
of Gataway

ooc: Any possible map?


IC:

Message to TPF forces in the area

The Imperial Kingdom requests to send our standby forces to TPF territory in the area and to allow our naval detachment access into TPF waters and ports as a show of force and support

Nadov III
of Gataway


High Command Communication
Access granted.

Forces enroute to TPF territory

The Imperial Kingdom is deploying the following forces to project our support for TPF and the TPF Government...any attempt to block this accepted deployment of troops will be considered an act of war

1 Mechanized Infantry Division
2 Airborne Assault Infantry Divisions
2 Had Jemzi Divisions
1 Armored Division

total troops-45,000

1. Carrier battlegroup with 1 Zealous class superdreadnaught among the escorting ships...
total aircraft number 220 mix of carrier based craft and helicopters
(ooc:If you want a more detailed breakdown of the fleet that can be provided)

OOC:

I demand that both sides pull back from fighting, we export lots of stuff to both sides.




signed,


Minister of Commerce: Alex Owens

OCC:Greal......get out of here, i really dont need you getting whooped. please dont be like Angola.

I will not blockade Gataway, but if you enter my waters you will be fired upon.

OOC:

I demand that both sides pull back from fighting, we export lots of stuff to both sides.




signed,


Minister of Commerce: Alex Owens


ooc:
Okay that was an IC: response IC stands for In Character and OOC stands for Out of Character IC would be a response your government would make since you are pretending to be Alex Owens the Minister of commerce for Greal your made up nation OOC would be something you yourself say to another player...I hope this clears some things up for you. I have no intention of entering NC waters I will enter TPF waters then stay in International waters when i exit TPF territory

Ministry of Defense

To ensure the continued balance of forces in the region, we are going to dispatch an additional bomber wing, two air superiority squadrons, and an infantry division and a mechanized infantry division to our facilities on the border of North Calaveras. We will also construct a shipyard to allow our bases to supply themselves by sea as well as air.

If necessary, we will dispatch additional naval forces, but two command groups are more than sufficient at this point. This brings the overall troop deployment to 100,000 infantry in addition to the naval and air forces based at our facilities.

We will provide additional updates if and when they are necessary, but we strongly suggest that negotiations begin on the creation of a North Calaveras DMZ between the opposing sides.

okay that was an IC: response IC stands for In Character and OOC stands for Out of Character IC would be a response your government would make since you are pretending to be Alex Owens the Minister of commerce for Greal your made up nation OOC would be something you yourself say to another player...I hope this clears some things up for you.


OOC: Thank you this made everything clear to me, I guess I will watch what happens.

A DMZ is very reasonable Vet.

OOC: Thank you this made everything clear to me, I guess I will watch what happens.

ooc:Watching other players is the best way to learn how to rp..if you have any other questions don't hesitate to telegraph me via your nation page, glad to help a new player =)

Imperial Message
IC:The Imperial Kingdom will support any discussion or negotiations on the establishment of a DMZ

Vetalia, you are allowed to build as many bases as you want at our borders, and a couple within the nation, and as for docks, do as you please.

State Department Communication
We will not accept a DMZ since we are not doing anything wrong.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NC


The party has announced that any construction ships that enter our waters will be taken out by typhoon subs.

Ministry of Defense

You are not doing anything wrong, but this situation is very tense and we feel it would be best if all nations involved pulled out of North Calaveras.

We will also be willing to negotiate demilitarization of the nation of North Calaveras so that they are unable to pursue hostile actions against you or your allies again. This would enable you to diplomatically interact with them without fear of reprisal, and would enable us to pursue economic reconstruction of the country, which is something we would all benefit from. We may also be willing to make some concessions in our own presence in the region in exchange, including withdrawal of our forces and/or withdrawal of missiles.

The Communist party of NC, has accepted these terms.

IC:



I shall visit NC to discuss DMZ talks





Minister of Foriegn Affairs

OCC:we can talk to you, but only through telegrams.

as for the dmz, do you not agree tpf.

Lyran Intelligence continues to monitor the situation. While none of the Protectorate's direct interests are being threatened by either party in this discussion, there may yet exist an opportunity for benefit.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NORTH CALAVERAS


The Party wishes the country of Vetalia and there allis to, if they want, we can construct a captial emabssy(think of it as a sort of diplomatic capital building), so that we can have a place to talk and solve problems.

COMMUNIST PARTY OF NC

we are grateful to hear that Greal has accepted our invitation to build a capital embassy, it is being preapared for construction, and other allies. all that is need is to accept it and we will make your capital embassys.

OOC: The construction teams are getting ready for construction.

OCC: your workers and mine from the state shall begin now.

lol this is the perfect diplomat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Egi8EoQc8

OOC: 90 men of the construction teams are now begining construction.

OCC: we will help with 100 men, this should be complete pretty soon., we will begin making two more just in case some others wish to have theres. and there is a future product of a SOL Diplomat dome.

OOC: The basement is complete!

The military of NC is now on stand down, we are pulling back two divisions of the peoples army, we hope you accept Vetalias terms with good faith.

State Department Communication
The base is nearly halfway complete.

OOC: The Peoples Freedom, do you accept the DMZ plan?

OOC: News: The first floor of the embassy is complete, 2nd floor of the building is under construction.

OOC: The Peoples Freedom, do you accept the DMZ plan?

OCC: Not yet. We will need official negotiations.

OOC: I'm ready when you are.

OOC: The 2nd floor of the embassy is complete, I think The people's freedom should stop building the base for now.

OOC: I'm ready when you are.

OCC: Create the thread. [Insert Dramatic Applause.]

OOC: Alright, it's up: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527625