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OOC:
Please keeps all OOC information here.

IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527495)

I'll need to know how much this war is going to cost so I can pay Blackhelm for doing our dirty work and then move in on the territory they're giving us in exchange.

I'll need to know how much this war is going to cost so I can pay Blackhelm for doing our dirty work taking out FA, and then we'll move in on the territory they're giving us in exchange for covering their costs.

OOC:

Is FreeAngola's stolen OBSAT like system still online?

No. We finally got him to get rid of it. I think...
And since this is the OOC thread, you dont have to say ooc silly.

is it open?

is it open?

Yeah, but we are trying to give him an example to emulate, so make good posts...

woooo broke the 1,000 post mark.

Kampfers: I know but still hehe.

TPF: I bought the B-74 from Elite Arms Inc.

Can anyone give me a quote on how much ming rights to FreeAngolan territory will cost? I talked to Vetalia earlier but haven't got a price yet.

Kampfers: I know but still hehe.


Lol, did it yesterday. Coincidence?
Its a pretty big milestone.
How's excalibur going?
I gotta buy me some of these bombers...

Can anyone give me a quote on how much ming rights to FreeAngolan territory will cost? I talked to Vetalia earlier but haven't got a price yet.

Lol. Who cares about mining. I'm going to claim some of his populace for a slave camp to build my munitions.

Lol. Who cares about mining. I'm going to claim some of his populace for a slave camp to build my munitions.

I care about mining and oil. :p

I'm going to give Aurum Domus mining rights on my territory once I've paid for it and Blackhelm finalizes the agreement.

I care about mining and oil. :p

I'm going to give Aurum Domus mining rights on my territory once I've paid for it and Blackhelm finalizes the agreement.

Yeah oil is good. So is mining, I was kidding.

Can anyone give me a quote on how much ming rights to FreeAngolan territory will cost? I talked to Vetalia earlier but haven't got a price yet.

Lol. Who cares about mining. I'm going to claim some of his populace for a slave camp to build my munitions.

Remember gentlmen. I'm the one who started this war so if there is an occupation you have to follow any rules that my nation puts in place for the occupation. And one thing that I won't allow is taking civies from his nation as slaves.

Remember gentlmen. I'm the one who started this war so if there is an occupation you have to follow any rules that my nation puts in place for the occupation. And one thing that I won't allow is taking civies from his nation as slaves.

Post above. I was kidding.

Goody, although I would love to use some of the FreeAngolans as slaves I think the aliancesI belong to prohibit it.

Remember gentlmen. I'm the one who started this war so if there is an occupation you have to follow any rules that my nation puts in place for the occupation. And one thing that I won't allow is taking civies from his nation as slaves.

Of course. The Vetalian section will be as free as our own nation, and quickly rebuilt to prevent undue humanitarian suffering.

Alright.


FreeAngola, we need a map of your nation so we know where everything is. Until then i'm putting this on hold.

Alright.


FreeAngola, we need a map of your nation so we know where everything is. Until then i'm putting this on hold.

I doubt he'll be back, but if he is good luck to everyone.

Alright.


FreeAngola, we need a map of your nation so we know where everything is. Until then i'm putting this on hold.

good luck on that

OOC: If you guys don't mind, I just send some "peaceful" supplies to Angola.

We will send armored cargo ships with this items


5 million gallons of oil
200 tons of steel
30 million dollars
400 tons of building materials

OOC: If you guys don't mind, I just send some "peaceful" supplies to Angola.

We will send armored cargo ships with this items


5 million gallons of oil
200 tons of steel
30 million dollars
400 tons of building materials

you just be wasting it

I think you should just let me take him over when this ends, or at least divide his countrys into occupyed zones.

True buts its more like REBUILDING angola

of course rebuilding it is primary objective, but what about after.

of course rebuilding it is primary objective, but what about after.

the way FreeAngola plays their be no after

never mind i will just absorb him.

I think you should just let me take him over when this ends, or at least divide his countrys into occupyed zones.

No, because you didn't put in the time or the manpower to take him over. So you get nothing.

the way i see it and what imperial said, there will be no after.

the way i see it and what imperial said, there will be no after.

So? Why would you get to take him over?

because he wants to retie relations with me and SOL

because he wants to retie relations with me and SOL

And? I still don't see why that would mean you take him over. If anyone would take him over it would be one of the people attacking him. Shaz has enough patience to actually Rp with him.

since none of you really have patience and dont really want a part of him besides maybe shaz, but the way i see he will get beat, and then either be taken by me or shaz.

since none of you really have patience and dont really want a part of him besides maybe shaz, but the way i see he will get beat, and then either be taken by me or shaz.

Still, how would you take him over? Him joining your alliance means shit besides he allied himselfs to your cause, how idiotic it may be.

we would like to join the war on the FreeAngolian side, after all, they bought 90 of our F/A-11s. and were not gonna let them go to waste, are we

because he wants to retie relations with me and SOL

NC, Wagdog and I both believe that it would be best for you not to have ties with FreeAngola. It will probably make you end up being invaded, and non of us will be able to do anything about it.

On another note, I think we should divide up FreeAngola much like post WW2 germany. Obviously Shaz will get the largest chunk.

Oh, and Dragonical, please send the supplies. Vetaka and I are blockading him, so we will just intercept the supplies and redirect them to our own nations. Free supplies!!!!

we would like to join the war on the FreeAngolian side, after all, they bought 90 of our F/A-11s. and were not gonna let them go to waste, are we

Lol. Way to go. Your going to get pwned too.

wagdog told me the same thing, but free wanted back and i told him if he didnt be stupid, id think about it.

we would like to join the war on the FreeAngolian side, after all, they bought 90 of our F/A-11s. and were not gonna let them go to waste, are we

The Glorious Republican government will give you a billion dollars to back off.

we would like to join the war on the FreeAngolian side, after all, they bought 90 of our F/A-11s. and were not gonna let them go to waste, are we

Lemme make a recommendation for you. Leave this thread alone, FreeAngola is going to lose this war, he knows it. He's using it as a learning experiance to improve his less then stellar RPing skills.

So unless you want to RP your nation getting the shit kicked out of it, I suggest you leave.

i like how you always try to say dumb stuff about me(however idiotic it may be)

Lemme make a recommendation for you. Leave this thread alone, FreeAngola is going to lose this war, he knows it. He's using it as a learning experiance to improve his less then stellar RPing skills.

So unless you want to RP your nation getting the shit kicked out of it, I suggest you leave.

Although you could use the war as a learning process too. I suppose...

well, if you dont do anything after you rebuild him, im probably coming in.
OCC: not like helping him, probably seize his nation and then leave my form of goverment.

well, if you dont do anything after you rebuild him, im probably coming in.

Oh, that probably won't be happening. If this goes according to Shaz's plans, which I hope it does, Shaz will have FreeAngola become an ally or a protectorate of his. So that FreeAngola can continue to expand his experiance while also having a little help incase some one decides to hit FreeAngola while he is down.

o occupations are a %$@#!, i stoped TPF when he defeated and occupied me, but i regained my country and all he has there now is a base, i even have the same leader.

That means we're sending them on our new transport stealth aircraft :p

Oh, that probably won't be happening. If this goes according to Shaz's plans, which I hope it does, Shaz will have FreeAngola become an ally or a protectorate of his. So that FreeAngola can continue to expand his experiance while also having a little help incase some one decides to hit FreeAngola while he is down.

I knida like my postwar germany Idea. Same concept, except everyone who donates forces and time will get a small part to help rebuild in. It grants everyone benefits, besides the fact that FreeAngola will have learned a lesson.

If you down of my planes. I will do a feeble declaration of war :(

If you down of my planes. I will do a feeble declaration of war :(

Then don't send them. Easy enough.

Anyways I was going to send it AFTER to rebuild the place.

Lemme make a recommendation for you. Leave this thread alone, FreeAngola is going to lose this war, he knows it. He's using it as a learning experiance to improve his less then stellar RPing skills.

So unless you want to RP your nation getting the shit kicked out of it, I suggest you leave.

Cazelia is my nation, not yours. i can do whatever i want with it





The Glorious Republican government will give you a billion dollars to back off.

no. i dont take bribes.

If you want to go to war with FreeAngola then do so. Just remember you brought this upon yourself.

Hmmm, if he joins I may actually decide to join in.

o occupations are a %$@#!, i stoped TPF when he defeated and occupied me, but i regained my country and all he has there now is a base, i even have the same leader.

Yeah. Well I will have this be an occupation if he doesn't defend himself well. And I wouldn't suggest helping him. Unless you want a large group of nations after your ass again.

If you down of my planes. I will do a feeble declaration of war :(

Then don't send them. Cause I will shoot down any military aircraft that will be sent to aid him.

i never said i was going to help him, i meant after he was deafeated, and to think, i might be going to war in a while because of TPF and Granates fascist behavior.

I haven't done anything besides voice my vocal support for TPF. You're the one leading it to war.

are you kidding me, he is setting up ICBM's, how does that not make me prepare for war?

If your conversation is not about this war then take it to another thread. ICBM's are also banned from this RP.

If your conversation is not about this war then take it to another thread. ICBM's are also banned from this RP.

Even if they were to use ICBMs, we could reduce them to radioactive glass the moment a missile was in flight.

Besides, no country in existence would allow its government to use ICBMs in a first strike without justification; doing that would be a fast track to a coup d'etat or impeachment, and the missiles would definitely not be fired.

Hey Shaz, would you mind me keeping a military base in FreeAngola after we finish this war?

Shaz, I was going to send a small mercenary force to join in the invasion. Since Blackhelm's thread is pretty much dead, do you mind if I use yours?

Hey Shaz, would you mind me keeping a military base in FreeAngola after we finish this war?

We'll discuss this more after the war is over or near the end of the war.

Shaz, I was going to send a small mercenary force to join in the invasion. Since Blackhelm's thread is pretty much dead, do you mind if I use yours?

Nah. I doubt i'd need help in the initial invasion.

I may want to warn everyone that FreeAngola does happen to (It was not intended at all) border my African colony which was created long before Free Angola exsisted. Futhermore, I highly suggest you don't make things to bloody or I might have to intervene in order to preserve peace in my colony.

I may want to warn everyone that FreeAngola does happen to (It was not intended at all) border my African colony which was created long before Free Angola exsisted. Futhermore, I highly suggest you don't make things to bloody or I might have to intervene in order to preserve peace in my colony.

I can't speak for all the other nations invading, but I personally will steer clear of your colony. I just need a map of FreeAngola so I know where everything is.

Although I Might need to move units within a mile or so of the boarder then move them inwards for his nation. To ensure that there is no "resistance" forces. that attempt to cross over into any other countries to launch attacks on my forces from there. But I will not send any forces into your colony.

ok.....I've been thinking and i'm going to consider the Map of Angola from The CIA World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ao.html) as the map for FreeAngola.



https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/maps/ao-map.gif

ok.....I've been thinking and i'm going to consider the Map of Angola from The CIA World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ao.html) as the map for FreeAngola.



https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/maps/ao-map.gif

OK. It makes it easier for the blockade than if he was like "ZOMG Im an archipelago!"

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but as a general statement to everyone involved; Did any of notice that there is a 5 page OOC thread, a 2 page IC thread, and Free Angola hasn't posted once since the start?
AND you are already discussing the division of his territory, glassing people, already bickering before the first reply has been made by one of the main parties involved.
If you really want FreeAngola to gain any RPing experience out of this, it looks to me like its going to be a "what not to do" thread ...

Maybe I'll sneak him some weapons and make it intresting...

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but as a general statement to everyone involved; Did any of notice that there is a 5 page OOC thread, a 2 page IC thread, and Free Angola hasn't posted once since the start?
AND you are already discussing the division of his territory, glassing people, already bickering before the first reply has been made by one of the main parties involved.
If you really want FreeAngola to gain any RPing experience out of this, it looks to me like its going to be a "what not to do" thread ...

People went crazy last night posting after he went to sleep. Which is why I stopped the RP till he had a chance to answer. That and I havent started discussing anything about dividing up his nation, that is other people who are doing that.

I'm just here to teach him how to RP, the other people are just along for the ride I believe. Although if they get too rediculous, i'll start booting people out.

If you teach me how to RP properly you can have a sector of my land with no problems at all

If you teach me how to RP properly you can have a sector of my land with no problems at all

BTW. you need to respond to what's in the IC Thread. See my OP here for the link.

OK, FreeAngola, 1st things 1st. You don't simply say "so and so are being deployed to where ever." You actually write up a post about someone giving those so and sos an order to deploy, and then you write a post about them deploying.

Secondly, you need to respond to the posts that have already been made before creating a new post. As far as I know, only Shaz has actually attacked you.

Finally, if you are being blockaded, you can't simply bomb the blockade. Well, you can, but that would mean they declare war on you. You also can't stop a blockade from doing whatever they want with your shipments, both incoming and outgoing. They have the right to seize any and all shipments. The only shipments they will most likely let through are those of the humanitarian type.

Either i pay you and you remove the blockade or since i´m already at war i will have to bomb you

You also have a new post for me to respond to. But 1st let me go to the storefront post, as it also pertains to this. You can not "nuke" a blockade of your nation. Doing so would create a monstor nuclear fallout, and guess where that goes? Right on your nation!

Like I said above, you have to RP yourself building the fortification. You can't just say that you are doing so. Read Quester's guide to using characters in an rp to make such rp's mor enjoyable.

we would like to inform all of your nations that freeangola is in the process of buying several of my intersteller warships. now personally we have absolutely no intention of joining your war on either side. that said we consider this war a serrious problem for my buisness dealings, so let me give you some advice if even 1 of the vessels arrives at his location and he meets the required price it will be devastating for your forces. that also said we are willing to provide the same said vessels to you. once again we have no intention of interfearing in this internal matter, please consider this as a formal declaration of neutrality. we will however possibly be acting as a medical group to provide assistance to any civilians who are wounded in this unfortunate matter.

we would like to inform all of your nations that freeangola is in the process of buying several of my intersteller warships. now personally we have absolutely no intention of joining your war on either side. that said we consider this war a serrious problem for my buisness dealings, so let me give you some advice if even 1 of the vessels arrives at his location and he meets the required price it will be devastating for your forces. that also said we are willing to provide the same said vessels to you. once again we have no intention of interfearing in this internal matter, please consider this as a formal declaration of neutrality. we will however possibly be acting as a medical group to provide assistance to any civilians who are wounded in this unfortunate matter.

FT and MT never ever mix. If he did that, he would be considered godmodding and would summarily IGNORED by everyone.

we would like to inform all of your nations that freeangola is in the process of buying several of my intersteller warships. now personally we have absolutely no intention of joining your war on either side. that said we consider this war a serrious problem for my buisness dealings, so let me give you some advice if even 1 of the vessels arrives at his location and he meets the required price it will be devastating for your forces. that also said we are willing to provide the same said vessels to you. once again we have no intention of interfearing in this internal matter, please consider this as a formal declaration of neutrality. we will however possibly be acting as a medical group to provide assistance to any civilians who are wounded in this unfortunate matter.

1st, DOES ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO USE AN ECONOMIC CALCULATOR????
2nd, Angola is being blocakded and cannot recieve delivery.
3rd, You don't have the economy to produce this
4th, are those even PMT?
5th, Angola doesn't have the economy to buy those

Consider that deal null and void, he can't afford to buy them anyway. I also think you should but out and stop making threats.

*smashes face into table*

I warned you about this FreeAngola. If you want to make an FT nation, then feel free to TG me and we can discuss about making a nation and how it works. Focus on MT, and those ships aren't allowed even in PMT.

Sorry for butting in Shaz, just wanted to redirect the FT urges.

*smashes face into table*

I warned you about this FreeAngola. If you want to make an FT nation, then feel free to TG me and we can discuss about making a nation and how it works. Focus on MT, and those ships aren't allowed even in PMT.

Sorry for butting in Shaz, just wanted to redirect the FT urges.

What do i have to do with this???

FreeAngola, as these are not MT/PMT, you can not use them. However, your other posts are showing improvement.

Arum Dorumus, My fleet isn't even in the blockade yet. Its actually waiting for Vetaka's approval. But I'm going to pretend like I have it...

**Stuff**

This isn't an IC Thread. Delete this and move it to the IC thread, link is in the first post.

Err....that and this is not FUTURE TECH....this is a MODERN TECH war, no Intersteller crap, thanks.

Also FreeAngola, it is a generally approved practice to consolidate all your RP posts into one post, using paragraphs and bold headers to distinguish where everything is happening and such. This allows threads to be cluttered less with mindless garble. And as Shaz said, KEEP THE OOC TO THE OOC THREAD EVERYBODY!

@FreeAngola: In the thread where you "bought" these ships, I warned you not to use them in MT. You said you were still going to use them, which can't happen. They can't even exist here, thats the point.

Two Schwullunde Intersteller Craft immeadiately decloak in geo-stationary orbit over freeangola. They Immeadiately begin transmiting a medical beacon on all known frequancies. One is a Cargo Vessel and one is a warship acting as escort. also transmitting is a strict Neutrality Beacon on all known frequancies.

No, dont. This is not an FT thread. You can not use FT weaponry here.

@FreeAngola: In the thread where you "bought" these ships, I warned you not to use them in MT. You said you were still going to use them, which can't happen. They can't even exist here, thats the point.

@Schuwle States: FT does not go into MT/PMT. Therefore, your ships cannot be here. Its considered a godmod, as your warships could blow the hell out of everything there no problem. If you have any MT/PMT ships, you may use them.

I ALREADY SAID THAT I WONT USE THEM

And FreeAngola, even if you don't buy things, as you say, you still have to have people to fly them. And by everything you have bought so far, unless 50% of your population is in the armed forces, you can't have all those new planes.

think you for your messages. as stated we have no intention of interfearing. that said we can i assume monitor this for the purpose stated? as we have no intention of using any weapons at all.

This is modern tech not future tech, bug out.

@Schuwle States: FT does not go into MT/PMT. Therefore, your ships cannot be here. Its considered a godmod, as your warships could blow the hell out of everything there no problem. If you have any MT/PMT ships, you may use them.

No, dont. This is not an FT thread. You can not use FT weaponry here.

He's already been reported in moderation. Please delete the quote from your posts as the post will be deleted shortly, I hope.

And FreeAngola, even if you don't buy things, as you say, you still have to have people to fly them. And by everything you have bought so far, unless 50% of your population is in the armed forces, you can't have all those new planes.

Actually military service is compulsory in my nation and recruiting starts at 17

Goddamn kid, you must be hard headed as shit because everything we tell can't seem to get through your thickhead. If you had everyone in the military your nation would be shit because of lack of an economy just like north Korea.

Removed as requested Shaz.

Well, I thought you said somewhere FA, that you planned on using them for transportation or something. I misread, my apologies.

Goddamn kid, you must be hard headed as shit because everything we tell can't seem to get through your thickhead. If you had everyone in the military your nation would be shit because of lack of an economy just like north Korea.

You know compulsory service at least in my nation is for a certain number of years not till they retire,and North Korea might not have a great economy but it has a great army(one of the biggest and best armed in the world),at least the US never dared to invade them in Modern Times

Goddamn kid, you must be hard headed as shit because everything we tell can't seem to get through your thickhead. If you had everyone in the military your nation would be shit because of lack of an economy just like north Korea.

Enhance your calm. I don't want to report people in my own thread for flaming or baiting or anything like that, but I will if you don't calm down.

Ahem, people...there's no need to get all hot under the collar.

Aurum Domus, FreeAngola stated that military service in his nation is compulsory, meaning that everyone has to serve in the military at some point for a set amount of time. Perfectly natural in the NS world, and it doesn't mean his whole populace are active duty ground pounders.

I apologize Shaz but this guy is annoying me to no end. How can you expect him to learn to RP when he continues to do everything wrong?

I apologize Shaz but this guy is annoying me to no end. How can you expect him to learn to RP when he continues to do everything wrong?

I suggest you look for the meaning of Compulsory Military Service in an encyclopedia,dictionary or if you dont have one in Wikipedia or something like that

look folks I don't want any trouble here i will of course be willing to remove the warship if you prefer but let the med vessle stay as it isn't even armed. thereby doesn't cause harm. also i had no idea of your ft/mt/pmt rule. though as this medical is open to all i hardly see how this is godmodding as both sides will receave help. if it does please let me know that without all of the mods getting involved.

I apologize Shaz but this guy is annoying me to no end. How can you expect him to learn to RP when he continues to do everything wrong?



If he's that aggravating to you, then ignore him and move on. Nobody is forcing you to interact with him.

If he's that aggravating to you, then ignore him and move on. Nobody is forcing you to interact with him.

He is the one who always comes to my threads provoking me

I apologize Shaz but this guy is annoying me to no end. How can you expect him to learn to RP when he continues to do everything wrong?

Um...because he doesn't know any better?

The fact is, he doesn't know all the rules and since many people have jumped him, he has gotten defensive and acted up. We were all like this, we all know that.

Besides, he can learn from experience, and teaching a newbie isn't always easy. As Hyperspatial Travel said once, "it is easier to teach the nice, willing newbie than the mouthy and stubborn one. No one helps the latter, but everyone helps the former."

@Schuwle: The fact is, FT does not mix. Period. It's to prevent wanking and the fact it detracts from the genre. It is better to know you have to rely on your own medical tech and medics than have some awesome FT ship in the sky which can cure cancer.

It's a matter of keeping wanking down and its just a well-abided rule by NS.

He is the one who always comes to my threads provoking me



Then you have every right to simply ignore him as well, if you'd like. If he continues to pester you after that, don't respond to him but instead get the mods.

It sucks when things have to reach that point, but for the sake of the RP and everyone's sanity, it might be for the best.

Ok thank you

Ok.

Here it goes.


First of all, No more fighting in this thread. If you have a problem with someone, take it to an Instant Messanger or some other form of communication, I will not tollerate it anymore in this thread.

Second of all, FT People get the fudge out. I dont' want to deal with Future Tech in a Modern Tech thread, they just don't mix at all, Period.

Third of all, if you people can please delete any and all OOC Posts in the IC Thread, I would appreciate it.

no prob but most of my tech is pretty pmt even ft we cannot cure any diseases as our med tech is limited anyway. in fact my vessle is barely in ft anyway just due to a few lucky breaks in finding a few crased vessels. but that said i will leave if you want. though this is really no different then the red cross providing medical assistance to warring less advanced tribes all over the world

OK, FreeAngola, 1st things 1st. You don't simply say "so and so are being deployed to where ever." You actually write up a post about someone giving those so and sos an order to deploy, and then you write a post about them deploying.

Secondly, you need to respond to the posts that have already been made before creating a new post. As far as I know, only Shaz has actually attacked you.

Finally, if you are being blockaded, you can't simply bomb the blockade. Well, you can, but that would mean they declare war on you. You also can't stop a blockade from doing whatever they want with your shipments, both incoming and outgoing. They have the right to seize any and all shipments. The only shipments they will most likely let through are those of the humanitarian type.

You also have a new post for me to respond to. But 1st let me go to the storefront post, as it also pertains to this. You can not "nuke" a blockade of your nation. Doing so would create a monstor nuclear fallout, and guess where that goes? Right on your nation!

Like I said above, you have to RP yourself building the fortification. You can't just say that you are doing so. Read Quester's guide to using characters in an rp to make such rp's mor enjoyable.

Also FreeAngola, it is a generally approved practice to consolidate all your RP posts into one post, using paragraphs and bold headers to distinguish where everything is happening and such. This allows threads to be cluttered less with mindless garble. And as Shaz said, KEEP THE OOC TO THE OOC THREAD EVERYBODY!

FreeAngola, this is all my advice to you so far. I think it might help you a great deal, if you follow it. Shaz, if you have anything to add, please do.

Understood, Shaz. I would like to join but my MT nation is nowhere near close to being ready.

Have fun Shaz and good luck in teaching FreeAngola.

no prob but most of my tech is pretty pmt even ft we cannot cure any diseases as our med tech is limited anyway. in fact my vessle is barely in ft anyway just due to a few lucky breaks in finding a few crased vessels. but that said i will leave if you want. though this is really no different then the red cross providing medical assistance to warring less advanced tribes all over the world

One of the main points if Future Tech is interstellar travel. Seeing as you said it was an Interstellar ship, it's Future Tech. So please get out. And i'm telling you that as the owner of this RollPlaying thread.

SCENE: 3rd HAVOC Naval Battlegroup

The FreeAngolan fleet dreadnoughts start to fire against the enemy dreadnoughts,along with the EA6B Prowlers,the B2 Spirit Bombers,F111,B1B Lancers which begin to bomb the dreadnougths and in a final effort to keep the enemy fleet from proceeding with the bombings FA Ballistical Submarines start to fire Tomahawk missiles against the dreadnougths along with the artillery regiment which starts to fire its MLRS and long range artillery shells to the water

More advice, FreeAngola. Your ships do not magically appear out of thin air. They actually have to travel over to where the 3rd Havoc naval group is before they can attack.

accepted
both vessles open hyperspace windows and make immeadiate withdrawl from the vicenity.

we sadly request that anyone capable of time travel fix our small intrusion on this timeline
we also request that the higher powers forgive this intrusion into this timeline.

More advice, FreeAngola. Your ships do not magically appear out of thin air. They actually have to travel over to where the 3rd Havoc naval group is before they can attack.

And Dreadnaughts are only roughly 300 meters long, where as Super Dreadnaughts are sometimes over 1 kilometer long.

And Dreadnaughts are only roughly 300 meters long, where as Super Dreadnaughts are sometimes over 1 kilometer long.

My Azrael are Super Dreadnoughts

More advice, FreeAngola. Your ships do not magically appear out of thin air. They actually have to travel over to where the 3rd Havoc naval group is before they can attack.

I made a post where i stated that they were deplyed to the area so they didnt appear out of thin air

I made a post where i stated that they were deplyed to the area so they didnt appear out of thin air

You still have to give them time to deploy, that doesn't happen instantaneous. Hell it would take quite along time to get Battleships into formation and out to sea, possibly days.

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FreeAngola
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Admiral Pedro Freitas has ordered the deployment of the following units to the national waters limit,the Admiral asked if there was any way to avoid conflict,this is the list of units deployed:

-x55-F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF)
-x35-F117 Nighthawk
-x50-TU-160 Blackjack
-x67-MI-24P Hind
-x85-C-5B Galaxy
-x60-767 AWACS
-x2-CVN 21 Class|10A. CVN 21 Class
-x4-Nimitz Class CVN
-x13-Azrael Class BBG
-x8-Seawolf Class SSN
-x6-Vanguard Class SSBN
-x8-Typhoon Class SSBN
-x7-Oscar II Class SSGN
-x18-DD(X) Class DDG
-x12-Avenger Class MCM/MSO/MHO
-x14-Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Corvette
-x20-Emperor Class Battlecruiser CGN
-x15-Nimitz Class CVN
-x13-10A. CVN 21 Class
-x1-Tri Svyatitelya Class Super Carrier
-x10-Konstantin Class Ballistic Missile Submarine
-x10-Peter the Great Class Battleship
-x10-Kirov Class Battlecruiser
-x7-Krikav 3 Class Frigate
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FreeAngola,
Missiles can't work underwater as they need to be able to burn fuel in an open environment. They would fizzle out and stop working rather quickly. You would have to use torpedo's. Also, my SpecOps Submarines are still a few kilometers out from the shoreline and several hundred meters underwater, so no one can see them yet.


Also, the F/A 18's are out of date compared to the thunderbolt aircraft I use. Basically it's one of the Starfury's from Babylon 5 dumbed down for MT use. Missile pods and guns instead of the PPG weaponry and what not.

Do you know how much SD's cost? I have 13, but I only have 2 in service because they are a bitch to maintain. 9 of the other 11 are in Permanent Drydock and might possibly be scrapped, the other 2 are permanently in Port unless needed elsewhere.

Ok i will correct

FreeAngola- You don't know where his submarines are. You can't deploy troops to counter him. Also, I agree with Granate. It took my ships over 5 months (NS time) to get in position. Also, you need to reply to Shaz's attacks before you launch counters.

Do you know how much SD's cost? I have 13, but I only have 2 in service because they are a bitch to maintain. 9 of the other 11 are in Permanent Drydock and might possibly be scrapped, the other 2 are permanently in Port unless needed elsewhere.

I am mostly an Army Nation,i mean that everything is going to the army

I am mostly an Army Nation,i mean that everything is going to the army

Then how can you operate 5 SD's? Hell I can barely operate 5, and my budget is 16 Trillion USD!

FreeAngola, this is where the bad part comes in. I hate this part the most, but you are neglecting it, and it is unacceptable to do so. After every attack on your forces by someone, you HAVE to rp your losses. And if someone is firing tons of rounds into your ships, only losing 1 or 2 is unrealistic.

FreeAngola, this is where the bad part comes in. I hate this part the most, but you are neglecting it, and it is unacceptable to do so. After every attack on your forces by someone, you HAVE to rp your losses. And if someone is firing tons of rounds into your ships, only losing 1 or 2 is unrealistic.

I also fired hundreds of thousands of shells and he only lost 1 or 2 ships

I am mostly an Army Nation,i mean that everything is going to the army

Look, I don't want to be a spoilsport, or w/e, but FreeAngola, you have to at least keep a bare minimum in the other categories. Even if you have a huge army, what good does that do you if no one is back at home pulling the strings from their royal palace?

I also fired hundreds of thousands of shells and he only lost 1 or 2 ships

You fired less then him, because he has alot more ships in the area then you.

I also fired hundreds of thousands of shells and he only lost 1 or 2 ships

I have over 3 times as many ships as you and they are spread out rather far. I RPed the losses as it would happen, you can't hit with every single shot, it's near impossible.

Leocardia- Hey, doing this will lead us, 2 fellow Comecon-SD members to war. Along with everyone else. Also, as I am blockading the region, good luck trying to get your troops inserted. And If you attack the blockade, then you will attack Vetaka too. So I'd warn you against this.

Hey Vetalia, Check your TGs.

Hey Kampfers that part about not wanting to shoot down the commercial plane I dont think is right... I mean if you see a nicly sized plane being escorted towerds your fleet you would probaly think the thing is packed with explosives.

Leocardia- Hey, doing this will lead us, 2 fellow Comecon-SD members to war. Along with everyone else. Also, as I am blockading the region, good luck trying to get your troops inserted. And If you attack the blockade, then you will attack Vetaka too. So I'd warn you against this.

Are you a retard? [sorry mods]

But, I'm in an allied colony, on an allied side, escorting injured Angolans that have made their way into the colonial territory.

I never attacked anyone yet.

Are you a retard? [sorry mods]

But, I'm in an allied colony, on an allied side, escorting injured Angolans that have made their way into the colonial territory.

I never attacked anyone yet.

Lol, I posted that so long ago... Don't worry about the retard bit...
I posted that when you were demanding enterance to aid FreeAngola...

Lol, I posted that so long ago... Don't worry about the retard bit...
I posted that when you were demanding enterance to aid FreeAngola...

Oh...

First, I have more then 8 pages of unorginized arm orders to sort through. Kinda tiring. Second, I didn't reilize 'Warm up' didn't mean start firing. My bad. Third, the Big Babylon guns weren't just purchased. They were actully purchased awhile ago. And last, stop using the IC thread for OOC stuff. That's why this thread was created.

No, 1st FreeAngola can't support buying that stuff. We've said that for forever. 2nd, Battles are fought in fluid time, so unless he bought those before I set up the blockade with Vetaka, He won't be able to use them. In fact, everything he has bought since the blockade has been intercepted and redirected...

No, 1st FreeAngola can't support buying that stuff. We've said that for forever. 2nd, Battles are fought in fluid time, so unless he bought those before I set up the blockade with Vetaka, He won't be able to use them. In fact, everything he has bought since the blockade has been intercepted and redirected...

The purchases of military equipment are not being sent to FreeAngola,i just pay for them and ask for them to be shipped to another nation,and i can support since all the storefronts sell them to me,so thats a prove i can buy them and that i have them

We have already gone over this. You don't have the funds to buy that stuff. Also, anything you buy for Northern Baltic is going to be ignored. Shaz will agree. That is bullshit, and will be ignored as such.

WHy should it be ignored?Northern Baltic is using his men with MY units,so i´m not spending anything more than i usually would do in a normal situation

We have already gone over this. You don't have the funds to buy that stuff. Also, anything you buy for Northern Baltic is going to be ignored. Shaz will agree. That is bullshit, and will be ignored as such.

AND I HAVE THE FUNDS,NORTHERN BALTIC DOES THE MAINTNANCE FOR THEM;I ONLY BUY THEM FOR HIM,AND IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO IGNORE MY LAWFULLY MADE PURCHASES THAN I ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO IGNORE THIS WAR SINCE I CANT HAVE ANY WAY OF DEFENDING MYSELF AGAINST ATTACKS FROM MORE THAN ONE NATION

WHy should it be ignored?Northern Baltic is using his men with MY units,so i´m not spending anything more than i usually would do in a normal situation

2 reasons.
1) you usually spend way too much. And you have lately.
2) Battles are "fluid time". That means you can't go somewhere and buy stuff, and then deploy them in that battle. You can't use them until the next war. "Fluid time" means no time passes from one persons post to the next, which means no time for building extra stuff or buying it.

2 reasons.
1) you usually spend way too much. And you have lately.
2) Battles are "fluid time". That means you can't go somewhere and buy stuff, and then deploy them in that battle. You can't use them until the next war. "Fluid time" means no time passes from one persons post to the next, which means no time for building extra stuff or buying it.

No one said that i wasnt giving time for the units to be delivered and deployed and second i am not spending my money on anything else so i can buy more weapons

Delivery of stuff isn't instant. It takes several NS Months and this RP Has NOT gone several NS Months so these cannons ARE NOT APPLICABLE in this Rollplay. How hard is it to understand that? This battle has lasted, at most, 12 hours, and the stuff you bought during this conflict is not available for use, in your nation, for this RP. Anything that is bought DURING this conflict will be ignored if it is used. And thats the bottom line.


Got it FreeAngola?

First, I have more then 8 pages of unorginized arm orders to sort through. Kinda tiring. Second, I didn't reilize 'Warm up' didn't mean start firing. My bad. Third, the Big Babylon guns weren't just purchased. They were actully purchased awhile ago. And last, stop using the IC thread for OOC stuff. That's why this thread was created.

And I made both the IC and OOC threads, so if I want to put maybe one OOC post every once in a while, it is my perogative. Don't tell me how to run my threads when you wern't even a part of it in the first place. You were "given" the position to run FreeAngola's military almost 3 pages (of 40 posts) through it.


Also, I want to get specifications on these cannons so I can see if they are well within the bounds of this tech level.

Delivery of stuff isn't instant. It takes several NS Months and this RP Has NOT gone several NS Months so these cannons ARE NOT APPLICABLE in this Rollplay. How hard is it to understand that? This battle has lasted, at most, 12 hours, and the stuff you bought during this conflict is not available for use, in your nation, for this RP. Anything that is bought DURING this conflict will be ignored if it is used. And thats the bottom line.


Got it FreeAngola?

I TGed you Shaz.

I TGed you Shaz.

Replied.

Replied.

Same. I think your going to go for overkill...

Shaz, the Big Babylon guns are RL 1000mm artillery weapons. One was under construction in 1991 for Iraq. Wiki them :D

Shaz, the Big Babylon guns are RL 1000mm artillery weapons. One was under construction in 1991 for Iraq. Wiki them :D

Its not what they are, its how he got them...

Its not what they are, its how he got them...

He wanted to know if they were applicable for this Tech Level.

Same. I think your going to go for overkill...

Well....My paitence only has such a limit....

If the conflict goes for much longer i will use the weapons i bought

If the conflict goes for much longer i will use the weapons i bought
The point is that you can not just buy stuff after the war started and start using them in the war without your opponent's consent..

Let's say you buy something which has a ns year delivery time, then guess what? A year might have happened in the thread you have bought it in, but not in this thread. That is what fluid time is.

If the conflict goes for much longer i will use the weapons i bought

The point is that you can not just buy stuff after the war started and start using them in the war without your opponent's consent..

Let's say you buy something which has a ns year delivery time, then guess what? A year might have happened in the thread you have bought it in, but not in this thread. That is what fluid time is.

Listen to Car. It doesn't take a day or so in NS Time to have something delivered. It takes a hell of a lot longer than that. Delivery for items takes anywhere from 6 NS Months to several NS Years. It is well registered that 1 RL Day = 1 NS Year, but it doesn't go like this for war RP's. As War RP's are done in Fluid Time, which is basically it goes as time goes in real life. Which is how Fluid Time works. IF you buy something during the RP, it cannot be used for that RP. IF you use anything during the RP that was bought during the RP, then I will ignore it, plain and simple.

I'll be back later tonight. I have to go into town to do some stuff.

bye guys - im going on vacation until monday!!!!

Shaz can control my fleet while I'm gone if neccessary.

Why do we continue dealing with this guy when he obviously has no intention of obeying the RP rules? I say we bomb the crap out of everyone of his cities and any survivors left be shot execution style. I would've suggested glassing but I aim to make money from this situation and a glassed land is no good to plunder.

I don't understand how I got in the middle of this whole thing. I understand if you want me to clarify some things, but how am I blamed for whatever FreeAngola does wrong? I saw the Big Babylon guns in the middle of a bunch of pages of arms orders, so it looked like it was ordered awhile ago, so I figured I could use it. If I am wrong, I apoligize and I stand corrected and will edit my post. Anyway, Shaz I apologize for telling you how to run the thread and Aurum, why do you always threaten to blow people up?

And a final note, I'm rping FreeAngola's military as it has very poor maintiance. Is that ok?

I don't understand how I got in the middle of this whole thing. I understand if you want me to clarify some things, but how am I blamed for whatever FreeAngola does wrong? I saw the Big Babylon guns in the middle of a bunch of pages of arms orders, so it looked like it was ordered awhile ago, so I figured I could use it. If I am wrong, I apoligize and I stand corrected and will edit my post. Anyway, Shaz I apologize for telling you how to run the thread and Aurum, why do you always threaten to blow people up?

And a final note, I'm rping FreeAngola's military as it has very poor maintiance. Is that ok?

To clear things up, if the purchase was made more than a week ago, then thats fine if you use it. But if it was made after the start date of this RP, then it is not usable.

And that last part is fine. As it is the truth with how many purchases he made, his budget can't handle maintaining all of that. So RPing as it is a poor military is acceptable.

FreeAngola, I'm going to allow Northern Baltic to RP your military as being Maintained poorly. Seeing as the current state of your defence budget would cause this.

Even though you did purchase all that stuff, it is still very hard to MAINTAIN it. As the costs for maintaining is almost 1.5 times the purchase price, unless specified by the storefront owner. Currently, the state of my military, the Maitinance costs would be about 1 Trillion USD below my budget while yours would be over 3 times your military, education and police budgets combined. Which would mean if you did do that, your children would be very poorly educated and they wouldn't know what the heck to do even if they were drafted to the military as they wouldn't know anything.

so i'm going to allow Northern Baltic to RP as he has stated a few posts above this.

To clear things up, if the purchase was made more than a week ago, then thats fine if you use it. But if it was made after the start date of this RP, then it is not usable.

I honestly would not know, but I have not added any of the new stuff he sent me.

Why do we continue dealing with this guy when he obviously has no intention of obeying the RP rules? I say we bomb the crap out of everyone of his cities and any survivors left be shot execution style. I would've suggested glassing but I aim to make money from this situation and a glassed land is no good to plunder.

If you try to do that,before you reach my capital i will bomb my own territory with nuclear weapons to render the land useless to do anything on it due to the radiation,think of a Chernobyl but 5 to 15 times bigger,it´s my only choice,either i fight and die and you plunder the land,or i fight and die and render the land useless to you and all you have done was spend money in a useless war too,so why shouldnt i do it?

Shaz, what city are you invading? I use this map (http://media.maps.com/magellan/Images/ANGOLA-W1.gif) and the other one posted on this OOC thread to name the cities and stuff, but just tell me what city you're hitting. Oh and I'm going to be going away tomorrow. I'll be gone for a month. Don't know if I'll have computer access or not. I can probaly go to an internet cafe or something. Hope they have them in Spain.

Just north of Sumbe right near the opening of that river is where my SpecOps troops are diving and heading towards.

So what is the final verdict? Is Northern Baltic going to RP a surrender or what?

My troops have been patiently floating offshore waiting for the naval battle to wrap up so that they can move in and start actually fighting for quite some time, but if all that will happen is a surrender thats OK too...

So what is the final verdict? Is Northern Baltic going to RP a surrender or what?

My troops have been patiently floating offshore waiting for the naval battle to wrap up so that they can move in and start actually fighting for quite some time, but if all that will happen is a surrender thats OK too...

He left, and he let me take over. But Shaz has still yet to RP what NB left off because all he is doing is telling me to surrender, because he thinks FreeAngola is no more.

He left, and he let me take over. But Shaz has still yet to RP what NB left off because all he is doing is telling me to surrender, because he thinks FreeAngola is no more.

FreeAngola is no more

He left, and he let me take over. But Shaz has still yet to RP what NB left off because all he is doing is telling me to surrender, because he thinks FreeAngola is no more.
Dude, face the facts. Not only is FA's nation deleted, but the nation which he made after his deletion has also been deleted.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=529020

Then without FA, there is no point of surrendering. He clearly does not exist.

I can't just claim this RP never existed, that would be plain stupid of me to do. So if no one has any objections, i'm going to ask that both these threads be closed and declare victory over FreeAngola, then create a puppet nation of my own naming system, saying that I renamed the nation after I won the war.


Any objections?

I can't just claim this RP never existed, that would be plain stupid of me to do. So if no one has any objections, i'm going to ask that both these threads be closed and declare victory over FreeAngola, then create a puppet nation of my own naming system, saying that I renamed the nation after I won the war.


Any objections?

none from me,do you need help rebuilding it

That seems like an OK plan to me. Since noone is playing FreeAngola anymore, I was planning to make a post describing my troops invading, meeting sharp resistance but eventually overrunning a major port city & the surrounding area, which is all I really want out of this war. Would that be OK with folks as well? (& Shazbotdom, do you mind if I stake a claim to one city & a bit of land surrounding it? You can have the rest of the country)

none from me,do you need help rebuilding it

I might need help. But we'll cross that road when we come to it.

That seems like an OK plan to me. Since noone is playing FreeAngola anymore, I was planning to make a post describing my troops invading, meeting sharp resistance but eventually overrunning a major port city & the surrounding area, which is all I really want out of this war. Would that be OK with folks as well? (& Shazbotdom, do you mind if I stake a claim to one city & a bit of land surrounding it? You can have the rest of the country)

I'll think about this for now. I'll come up with a decision tomarrow or something and type up a story of what happened after the naval battle and all that jazz to fill in the gaps as well as probably jump ahead like 4 weeks or so to when my forces get to his capital and take it over, then on to when the rest of the nation fell.

I'll wait till Monday night at about 10pm central US time for any more objections. But at that time, i'll go ask moderation to lock this thread and the IC thread, and then create the puppet with the side story as to what happened.

No objection from me. I will be happy to aid you in rebuilding if neccessary. 1 request, can I have a military base (Joint Navy, Air Force, Army) in the puppet?

No objection from me. I will be happy to aid you in rebuilding if neccessary. 1 request, can I have a military base (Joint Navy, Air Force, Army) in the puppet?

As I said, i'll think about it for a little bit and get back to the people who were involved in these threads.

Shaz I am just telling you that I may disapprove of your puppet government and in the future, decide to take action against it. My colony is right above FreeAngola. Just reminding you.

i'm fine as long as i get my mining right

Shaz I am just telling you that I may disapprove of your puppet government and in the future, decide to take action against it. My colony is right above FreeAngola. Just reminding you.

The colony will be run most like, if not exactly like, my government. Although i'm going to mess around with the questions and stuff during the sign up process to see if I can't get higher freedoms by answering them a specific way.

i'm fine as long as i get my mining right

And as I said, we will discuss that on a later date. I'm not going to just give you rights to do something when you had very little to do with the RP. Most of the RP was me and FreeAngola fighting with very little from anyone else.

And if I do give you mining rights, I reseve the right to revoke those mining rights if I feel it is hurting the environment of my colony more than it is helping the economies of the colony and/or your nation.

i'm a monkey:headbang:

Flowerland2;12762001']*Snip*

And I didn't ask for you to be in my thread. Delete that and get out.