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as most of you know, the incan empire is invading columbia. and for that reason, i have started an in character diplomatic discussion about this

PS any nations that want to join this conflict do so at this thread


aggressors-
Incans
Dostanuot Loj
Kahanistani leauge of anti catholics

Neutrals-
Hatarians
the Transylvanians
Kahanistan
Cazelia

Defenders-

Atopiana
Tolvarus
Skgorria



All other nations that join will be listed here

Atopiana and Skgorria are allies, opposed to the Incas. The League of Anti-Catholics is siding with the Inca, but it'll be some time before they get to the battlefield.

These are basically an eclectic mix of 10,000 or so people from all walks of life, united only by varying degrees of anti-Catholic sentiment. They are well-armed, decently equipped infantry, but ill-trained and undisciplined fighters. They'll get better as they gain experience.

You'll probably see a fair number of atrocities committed, although I've never made much of an effort to RP committing atrocities before; I've always been the "good guy."

same here, and by the way, are you against the incans

OOCly, I'm holding out to see the next Incan post, as this little foray has digressed into something rather quickly. So in the interest of a good RP I'm moving in flow with the primary nation. Especially since I'm waiting to see the Incan accecptance of the way Atopiana has taken things, which I believe has essentially killed what could have been a good RP.

My nation's government is neutral, but the League of Anti-Catholics (L.A.C.) comes from Kahanistan and is on the side of the Incas. Basically, the reason for the rise in anti-Catholic sentiment in my nation comes from hostilities with Doomingsland, an extremist Catholic monarchy.

Having just discovered that this was an MT war...

I feel obliged to apologise.

Furthermore, I'm pulling my forces out as soon as Skgorria's lot gets here to ensure the safety of Colombia and will be shooting large numbers of my officers and diplomats for embarrassing Atopiana on the world stage.

Indeed, as part of the Pact of Iron, I'll be handing the diplomats over to Skgorria to try under his form of military 'justice'. :p

ya know, i think MT can fight PMT and FT. ive done it before

ya know, i think MT can fight PMT and FT. ive done it before

They can,. and it can be interesting. But it has to be agreed upon by all sides, and rules have to be set. Problems arise when the FT nations, for example, start assuming their troops are invinvible against the MT troops, and act that way instead of work for a greater RP experiance by making concessions, much like the other guys, MT, PT, PMT, whatever, would have to make concessions to allow more freedom of play that the FT guys get.
That would be the reason it's not done very often, and most of the time when it is done if it's not set up right from the start it failes hard.

Thing is, this isn't MT vs, it's past tech versus.

Besides, I RP my casualties at the divisional level - if they're not significant enough to adversely effect the progress of a division, they don't get mentioned.

Anyways, I'd have to agree with Dostanuot Loj - without concessions and good RPing, an MT or Past Tech nation going up against a PMT/FT nation will fucking die. As evidenced by this thread and my massive use of NBC weapons against unprotected savages.

That's probably what I had in mind when talking about POWs, Atopiana :) I assumed that a handful of casualties would have included the taking of some prisoners, possibly just wounded who couldn't do much about it. Plenty of people who do get hurt by Inca soldiers will have received a heavy blow to the head, or a dose of poison, rendering them helpless either way. Meanwhile the Inca just get shot or blown up!

Still, don't over-estimate the crippling effects of Fascist technical superiority. A nuclear blast is a major kick in the crotch, but it's not a perfect weapon, especially when facing literally millions of enemy combatants (obviously we have an extremely high ratio of combat to non-combat personnel compared with a more technically complex force) in often very rugged and blast-containing terrain. The terror effect is slightly reduced by the slow flow of information in Tahuantinsuyu and the related high degree of government control over said info.

I don't think that a modern nation would be much better off when being nuked! The only difference being that they may be able to nuke back, I suppose. Got to get us some deterrent, next time!

I might join the war, 15 precent of my popluation is a troop.

Urm...15% would mean that your forces are horrifically badly equipped and your economy in ruins. I play at around 3% for my military

Urm...15% would mean that your forces are horrifically badly equipped and your economy in ruins. I play at around 3% for my military


we do have a large Air force. The Dictator of Greal has 500 trillion greal dollars ready to be spent. (The money is locked up in a secret vault) We have a strong economy, all my troops are equipped well.

Read - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064

Can't be bothered to argue, but I tell you certainty that if you RP a 15% military with top-of-the-line kit for everyone and an awesome economy then prepare for mass IGNORE, me included

Read - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064

Can't be bothered to argue, but I tell you certainty that if you RP a 15% military with top-of-the-line kit for everyone and an awesome economy then prepare for mass IGNORE, me included


Of course 15% of my popluation is not in the miltary, it is 5%. I was just kidding.

I don't think that a modern nation would be much better off when being nuked! The only difference being that they may be able to nuke back, I suppose. Got to get us some deterrent, next time!

We'll be happy to sell you some, and train your army in the use of more modern weapons systems - indeed supply them too!

I'm incredibly impressed by your RPing and your military's suicidal bravery which has resulted in casualties - far more than I thought originally.

As a result, when all this has died down, I have a puppet nation - Grossetape - who can supply you with top of the line Modern Tech. It'll be Soviet and Russian, but that stuff's simple to use and rugged. :) What do you say?

Quite possibly we will be interested... once we're back on our feet!

Due to the structure of our economy rebuilding will be complicated, but it should work out. Mass labour mobilisation and public works are key, and I've now got to think about just how much we'd realistically be able to do at once. Pachacutec will certainly want to prioritise defence procurement and training. Unfortunately I assume that Atopianan missile strikes targeted our main cash generators: oil and gas wells, and mines? If we concentrate on rebuilding them, the people won't be able to fulfill the Mita Obligation that feeds the army, aristocracy, and priesthood.

Possibly Cusco will have to negotiate contracts for future export of petro-chemicals and get credit with which to buy things while we're still rebuilding.

I suppose that's a whole other RP for when this one is over! I should get nuked more often.

Well, I'm sure that the Skgorrians and others will happily help rebuild your country.

We'd help, but I suspect there's a tad bit of resentment, what with the hideous violence and underhand tactics like poison gas. :p

I've been inching in here as intent to increase my sphere of influence, and was kinda hoping I'd get my way into the rebuilding and rearming efforts. Mining and petrochemicals are things I have in abundance, and my forces are constantly going through upgrades so I have enough surplus to bring the Inca up to defensible levels, then modernize them further as needed.
I gotta switch to my other computer for the details though, I have it all saved there. Including the 12k strong battalion I have finalised on sending.

Editin here:
Are the Skgorrians still going to be relieving your lines Atopiana?
Also, does this Atopiana-Cazelia conflict look like it will be spilling over into Columbia? I'd like to know incase I have to prepare to RP having to deal with a factioned war nearby instead of organised enemies who are unified.