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In memory of the brave freedom fighters, i wish to create the Sons of Lenin alliance, this groupd will be mostly socialist/communist group that will be geared toward the defence of communist countrys and their allies against hostile nations. I know im am not a big nation, but together we can crush the tyranny that has plagued us comrades.
the sons of lenin will be rememberd for their brave acts of trying to free a people under a tyranical goverment.

We are basicly a military alliance, we will defend each other and wage some wars against fascist enemies.

come one,arent you tired of getting raped, iv been through this crap.

In memory of the brave freedom fighters, i wish to create the Sons of Lenin alliance, this groupd will be a socialist/communist group that will be geared toward the defence of communist countrys and their allies against hostile nations. I know im am not a big nation, but together we can crush the tyranny that has plagued us comrades.
the sons of lenin will be rememberd for their brave acts of trying to free a people under a tyranical goverment.

We are basicly a military alliance, we will defend each other and wage some wars against fascist enemies.

OOC: I think the name has promise, but if you want people to join, you need to draw out what you are going to do, you know, make it look pretty.

State Department Communication
The Peoples Freedom Condemns this godless Communist "Alliance" As if commies even have the brain capacity to create one.

The members of the Sons of Lenin pledge to defend each other if one or more of the members are attacked. The treaty also states that relations among the signatories are based on mutual noninterference in internal affairs and respect for national sovereignty and independence. The noninterference rule will be held up violently, we just want to make sure no one is opressed, we are 50% defensive and 50% offensive, to honor this pledge my military will be combined with the allies, we will have a army of differnt nations, we will be the Sons of Lenin.

There will be a senate for votes of war and peace extc.

State Department Communication
The Peoples Freedom Condemns this godless Communist "Alliance" As if commies even have the brain capacity to create one.


This is what im talking about, this is the barbaric nation that tried to occupy and opress me.

The members of the Sons of Lenin pledge to defend each other if one or more of the members are attacked. The treaty also states that relations among the signatories are based on mutual noninterference in internal affairs and respect for national sovereignty and independence. The noninterference rule will be held up violently, we just want to make sure no one is opressed, we are 50% defensive and 50% offensive, to honor this pledge my military will be combined with the allies, we will have a army of differnt nations, we will be the Sons of Lenin.

There will be a senate for votes of war and peace extc.

OOC: in depth would be nice. Look at other, successful alliances for examples.

parts of the treaty will be created by all members, then we may create a combined military treaty. As for TPF, he is the kind of person to invade you for praising rebels that support the same goverment as yourself.

<As if commies even have the brain capacity to create one.>

this is why we must unite, he thinks we are weak, he is a fascist and a murderer.

“ The Parties may, by unanimous agreement, invite any other Nation State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of SOL areas to accede to this Treaty. Any State so invited may become a Party to the Treaty by depositing its instrument of accession with the Government of the North Calaveras. The Government of the North Calaveras will inform each of the Parties of the deposit of each such instrument of accession. ”

Note that this poses two general limits to non-member states: (1) only Communist, Socialist, and some friendly states are eligible for membership and (2) these states need the approval of all the existing member states. The second criterion means that every member state can put some criteria forward that have to be attained. All members will put resuources into making a shared military unit, which will be called RCG(Revolutionary Coast Guard).








JOINING

As a procedure for nations wishing to join SOL, a mechanism called People's Action Plan (PAP) was approved in the NC Summit of 2007. A country's participation in PAP entails the annual presentation of reports concerning its progress on five different measures:

Willingness to settle international, ethnic or external territorial disputes by peaceful means, commitment to the rule of law and human rights, and democratic control of armed forces to all members
Ability to contribute to the organisation's defence and missions
Devotion of sufficient resources to armed forces to be able to meet the commitments of membership
Security of sensitive information, and safeguards ensuring it
Compatibility of domestic legislation with SOLcooperation

OOC: Join one of the other Communist/Socialist Alliances.

Xiscapia extends a diplomatic hand towards NC. How can we assist you?

DO you wish to join the cause? Xscipia, it would be good, plus, you really wont have to join the regiion but that would greatly be prefered.

OOC: Join one of the other Communist/Socialist Alliances.

I agree..no offense but your a semi-new nation...not very organized yet with this whole alliance constitution thing..your probably better off joining an existing alliance which has the same goal.

i already explained that im semi-new, but it's my idea, and i want to share it, dont come in here and try to convert me.

ok then

so you will join Xscipia?

So... is it required to be communist?

i editied it and you dont have to be a communist just a loyal supporter of the cause.

Well I'm for protecting communisim. I'm not communist but It angers me to see people always treating commies like trash.

cool the njoin

IC: The Constitutional Empire of The Sith Clan herby announces their wish to join the Sons of Lenin.

IC:Sith Clan do you agree to the rules of this treaty, and therefore will not endager or embarrase it.

IC: I do agree to the rules of this treaty.

IC: You will now be know as a member of the Sons of Lenin military agreement. my troops are yours.

IC: It is an Honor.

Diplomatic Communique from the Republican Monarchy

We hereby denounce this Alliance, called the Sons of Lenin, as nothing more hten a pitiful attempt by the Imperialist Communists to expand their influence.

This is your only warning. Try anything Funny and we will proceed to deal with you.

Another barbaric nation that dosnt understand our need to unite, see how they are afraid we will become united.

Wow, seriously. Lighten up people. I need to expand my influence quite a bit. How many other Constitutional Empires are there?

you see what i mean sith, this is exactly why.

Wow, seriously. Lighten up people. I need to expand my influence quite a bit. How many other Constitutional Empires are there?

You need to understand that alot of nations don't like Communism. Although mine doesn't actively try to eliminate it, it doesn't like Proliferation of Hard-Line Communist Ideals, which Calveras is spouting off.

If it was just another alliance of Commies, we wouldn't care. But this alliance is an Alliance to stop the attacks on commies and it basically calls anyone who has fought against a communist nation a Barbarian. We don't like that

Yeah I know they find a less common form of government and they try to destroy it. They hate communist because they are different. I apparently am "condemmed" just for joining this alliance, even though I'm not communist.

NO sir, this alliance stops attacks of nation within the treaty, and help others out of it.

You need to understand that alot of nations don't like Communism. Although mine doesn't actively try to eliminate it, it doesn't like Proliferation of Hard-Line Communist Ideals, which Calveras is spouting off.

If it was just another alliance of Commies, we wouldn't care. But this alliance is an Alliance to stop the attacks on commies and it basically calls anyone who has fought against a communist nation a Barbarian. We don't like that

Ahh but you see we merly wish to stop attacks on communist. A lot of people will attack merely because a nation is communist and not because anything was done wrong.

Yeah I know they find a less common form of government and they try to destroy it. They hate communist because they are different. I apparently am "condemmed" just for joining this alliance, even though I'm not communist.

Life's a bitch ain't it? But you know what's really funny, In real life I am a Socialist, mull that around your brain for a while.

NO sir, this alliance stops attacks of nation within the treaty, and help others out of it.

From your Propaganda I took it to be a Hard-Line Communist Alliance, which I still do.

look Granate, i dont want to start a crusade against differnt ideals, i think in the policy"do unto others, as they would do to you"

Life's a bitch ain't it? But you know what's really funny, In real life I am a Socialist, mull that around your brain for a while.

And in real Life i've developed my own form of government called Singletonisim. We don't do much....

From your Propaganda I took it to be a Hard-Line Communist Alliance, which I still do.


What does it mean to be "Hard-Line" communist? It can't be too bad if they accept non-commies.

It's the way he acts. Pretty much like Lenin did back in the day. Acting all like the Communists of the World should unite so that the Barbarian Capitalist Nations don't overwhelm them, soon it'll lead to talks of raising the Proleteriat. Ect, Ect, Ect.

Well it's true they should unite so they are not wiped out.

These ideals with mostly be confined within the alliance, why do you keep botherng us, do you simply want us exterminated?

My thoughts are he's trying to persuade us against it, and persuade others from joining.

exactly he's afraid that we will unite.

I wouldn't call it fear.

exactly he's afraid that we will unite.

More Propaganda.... jeezus. Look, If I was afraid I would of invaded all of you the minute the alliance was formed, thus eliminating the problem. Right now I am not invading you because I am not afraid of your alliance. It is basically a copy of TWSP's Socialist/Communist Alliance, and I don't see a point to this alliance.

they still dont wish us to join because they think that we will wage a war against their political beleifes.

Well, we are an Alliance. And I'm not a member of toomany alliances so, I joined.

ok granate, but what about when we become more powerful? what will you do, all i want people to reconize this as a alliance that will help each other, basically we will become a mixed entity. We want to help eachothers nations, not destroy them, what you call propaganda i call fact.

Sorry this may not be the time nor place to post such a question but...

If we need new threads for votes and whatever will they be titled SoL?

they will probably be called, < > Sons of Lenin

I tihnk he gone

I tihnk he gone

Guess again. I just don't feel like arguing. So enjoy your little alliance that will probably go nowhere.

Ok, cause SoL is so not good!

i will thank you

Well I'll enjoy it... I think. And your right it may not get anywhere, then again it may one day be a threat to you the world. You never know what the future may bring.

come comrades, if we could just unite we may be able to deafeat these opressors, how long have yuo been harrassed by countries that dont belief in the same things as you? Joining this alliance, you will have protection and heavy support, if you are in a war we will not leave a nation behind,even if it means the fall of the alliance.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand" that is our motto, we will uphold it violently.

OCC: I find it funny how you think this alliance is a threat to me when I should worry about GUSN who actually has the military strength to fight me.

what!? i admit i have created this to defend others and myself against people like you, but i assure you sir that im not useing this against you specifically, and i dont find it very funny.

come under our wing comrades, and you will share our prosperity.

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- Official Statement by the Greater Honakon Region

The region and the leaders view this unorganized alliance of nations as a tiny threat to our capitalist ways. We somewhat approve of Socialism, and it is present in our society, though Communism in the form the founding country of this alliance has is not what we deem a safe government. We never will attack another nation for having Communism, and we process good relations with many nations that do, but the government form as an ideal is good, but in practice nearly certainly will fail in some way. We suggest that if these people want to be with fellow Communists and safe they join larger Communist alliances to avoid the many anti-Communist nations of the world.

However, for now, Greater Honakon welcomes your alliance onto the international stage.

- Mrs. Bourla Parkins, High Commissioner of Greater Honakon

As a Communist state i want to be part of your alliance

thank you, for wanting to join
OCC:sorry i didnt read the bottom of you welcoming.

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Fellow Members of the Sons of Lenin, I regret to inform you of my leaving of this Alliance. It is nothing personal twords either of you, I simply feel it in my best interest as a non-communist nation to no longer be a part of a communist Alliance.

I hope to still remain on friendly terms with you. If ever a time comes when you are threatend by war, we will aid you if we can.

Accepted, you membership has now expired, but you will still be considered an ally amongest us.

Official Imperial Decree

The Sons of Lenin has been and shall remain on the Imperial list of known threats to the state following attacks by a terrorist organization under the same name. Under the new internal security act the Imperial Kingdom will continue to detain and otherwise deal with any members found within our sovereign borders to be tried in an Imperial court of law as enemies of the state and/or enemies of the Imperial house punishable by execution


Emperor Nadov III of Gataway

Another nation, jeez, you guys multiply or something, ive heard so many threats you would pass out. We are united and shall try to become more united, if you havnt read the treaty you wouldnt understand what were about i have no intention of harming you or your people.

im sorry free but you are no longer welcomed here, until you clean up your act.

No discounts for you guys then

Well I wouldn't recieve a discount anyhow. I'm not communist.

Well I wouldn't recieve a discount anyhow. I'm not communist.

Depends on what you buy,usually i lower the prices

im not ordering you sith, but it would be good not to consult to this fake communist.

Well I never buy things any way... my government tries to be self reliant.

If you saw my prices you would certainly buy

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527425

Hmmm a new Communist alliance


Well we National Socialists will take you on

i had better prices, on NC STATE ARMS, i would consider it when you dont act like an idiot, i also heard some things about you copy someones tech?

why comrade, we would never interfer with your business, if anything would like to congraduate you for uniteing some of the socialts. "A house divided against itself cannot stand"

Wow, you know, this is why I don't get involved with the whole buying of weapons and things, not only do I not have the time to worry about how much money I have, I have a huge dislike for offending anyone by buying from one and not the other.

i had better prices, on NC STATE ARMS, i would consider it when you dont act like an idiot, i also heard some things about you copy someones tech?

YES INDEED YOU HAD,and about copying someone elses tech you must have misheard,and as i was saying i can drop any of those prices and deliver most of the equipment in one day

YES INDEED YOU HAD,and about copying someone elses tech you must have misheard,and as i was saying i can drop any of those prices and deliver most of the equipment in one day

by the way, i sell all of it. in a couple of minutes.

wow, he has his store on every thread. he must be desperate.

Not sure it's desperation, more like good advertising.

With my family owning 3 resturaunts I know a bit about the need for advertising... and our lack of it.

yes it is good advertising, but i dont see that on NS.

Well sorry to be this way but...

You just did!

lol i guess your right.

Ok now you know i may not be an allie but if still anyone needs armament visit my storefront,50%off on large orders

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527429

Thank you very much

So, hope you have luck finding new members for your alliance.

me to

Maybe if you made look a lot more professional you would.

get out of here, i dont want you in this thread.

get out of here, i dont want you in this thread.

Sigh, even when he's actually trying to help you?

If you look at any other alliance, you would notice that they have their own Off-Site forums, clear charter/constitution, rules, and governing council. You have none.

why do i need that? i dont need anything, just the respesct and trustworthyness of my memebers, now can you please leave this thread.

You do need that because it attracts new members and makes them feel apart of something, all they see now is some one line messages full of Grammatical errors. All I am trying to do is help. Right now it just looks like some newb thought up a alliance that has no organization.

it not unorganized, and get out of my thread, you guys are pissing me off by harrasseing me.

and by the way, im not a noob, you werent even able to keep complete control over my country.

It is unorganized, look at this compared to GASN or GUSN. TG me if you want more help. Otherwise, I guess I'll leave now. I'm telling you, if you do the things I already told you to do, you'll get a lot more members.

Oh, and I was nice with your country. I could have killed everyone in it.

GASN GUSN are huge alliances, im not looking for a massive number of members right now.

it not unorganized, and get out of my thread, you guys are pissing me off by harrasseing me.

If you call Constructive Criticism harrassment then when I started out I must of been harrassed by everyone. But I wasn't, I learned from what other people said and worked to improve everything I did. Even right now, I am still learning and am no way a perfect RPer.

Learn from your mistakes and from what other people offer.

I have people that help me, i dont want your guys opinon though.

OOC: Hey someone brought the Sons of Lenin! those dastardly commies! Sons of Lenin a product of Wesmerican RPG Industries all rights reserved.

IC: The Wesmerica Federal Anti Terrorism Agency (FATA) will gladly provide any intelligence on the whereabouts of the Sons of Lenin extremists. After a decades of dealing with these extremists here in Wesmerica we have vast intel on them. The Sons of Lenin were a public threat after many terrorist activities including the seizure of the Wesylvania statehouse that occured last year. FATA was able to cripple the Sons of Lenin group operating in Wesmerica, after capturing and executing several leaders of the SOL organization operating in Wesmerica. This occured during the raid in southern Wesylvania at a major SOL compound which was thorougly destroyed. After those events Wesmerica experienced no major SOL terrorist activites. However the Sons of Lenin continues to operate in many underground communist/socialist extremists organizations.

Presenting it well is important - I'm quite new and even I can tell that. There are whole threads how to create good alliances, a good rep is very important also though but you can still do well if you have a good clear intention to your alliance and it is all detailed and well presented. You should listen to the advice you get, as even if you don't expect to be as big as GUSN, you haven't really pulled in many members so far...though I do admit that these two's posting in your thread may have detered some members, but it is constructive what they say.

i understand you, its just that i dont want there advice, there probably on my top ten enemys, i have people that will help me. and as for the sons of lenin copyright lol, in the begging it was to keep the memory of those freedom fighters, and i aplauded them, and tpf went to war with me becasue i said they were good.

:sniper::sniper:

what does that mean?

OOC: the Sons of Lenin was created by me during a rp thread originated by me. They were a highly ideological paramilitary communist extremists. They hated the aristocracy and the social inequalities in Wesmerica and elsewhere. Through calculated attacks on our society the Sons of Lenin was a feared menace to Wesmerica. I disagree with creating a Sons of Lenin Alliance consisting of communist/socialist nations. The Sons of Lenin was a organization of ruthless underground communist individuals and groups unknown to the public. SOL should remain unknown and mysterious, yet an obivious menace to NS world. A international alliance of communist/socialist nations would be ungainly and weak. However reviving SOL with rp terrorists chracters would be a lot better than large nations. Each nation could create a terrorist character or group forming the Sons of Lenin Alliance. Then they could wreak havoc by weaving in SOL attacks on nations. Sounds good?

hold on that amlsot knocked me out.

sir, why would you want my alliance to represent a terrorist organization, we are a good alliance, we dont want trouble, but all these other nations dont like us for who we are, they call communists stupid as a whole.

We want to retie our diplomatic relations with you and sort this mess out so that i can be part of the alliance again

okay, but you better not pull some dumb crap like that war again, and you WILL follow the rules of the alliance, i will not help the war you are in now you dug that hole, but after ok.

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15%Discount in my storefront to Alliance members

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527429

free angola, i understand your commerence mission, but this is for recruting.

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rally comrades,i know we have had set backs, but if we dont we are just proving that when they say we are dumb they are right.

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Didn't FreeAngola just get warned for having too many bumps? Not butting in, I just want to help you stay away from trouble with the mods.

just trying to get new members sorry.

just trying to get new members sorry.

It's ok. Apparently some of my friends see promise in you, so I won't get mad at you. I would reccommend taking TPF's advise though. If you listen to people like him, with lots of experience, it turns you into a better RPer.