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MCSATN Aerial Denial Grid Network System Presentation

FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 22:19
#Government Official Statement#

At 1:00AM today there was a Military Coup d ´Etat in FreeAngola,the former dictator Specter has been removed from Office and from now on does not play a part on FreeAngola Government decisions,FreeAngola´s provisionary new leader is the 5 Star General Eduardo Silva,he wishes to apologize for the tension created by the former dictator specifically regarding the OBSAT(Vetaka) vs MCSATN case,and he also wishes to apologize to Vetalia for creating a war environment inside the COMECON reunion,the General has stated that he wants peace with Vetalia and that he is going to shut down the MCSATN System as a token of good will,with no further adue

Signed,

General Eduardo Silva
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 22:27
OOC: This is blatant Theft of my ideas. Do you know how long I have worked on the OBSAT System? I have researched OBSAT's Capabilities and calculated every little detail from its Satellites to its Target Systems and its Security Systems Delete this thread within the Hour or I am going to the Mods FreeAngola you have an hour so till 11:30 GMT in order to remove this.
Siriusa
13-05-2007, 22:34
Nothing presented here has the same name or functions in the same way as your system so i am not copying anything,this system is for FreeAngola private use so you cannot charge us of anything,because then the creator of the first car could say that no one could ever produce a car beside him because he created it

Thank You

Antonio Lugvamba

Armament Sales International

OOC: While it doesn't have the exact same names and equipment as OBSAT, they are very similar in purpose and execution.
Kampfers
13-05-2007, 22:35
OOC: This is blatant Theft of my ideas. Do you know how long I have worked on the OBSAT System? I have researched OBSAT's Capabilities and calculated every little detail from its Satellites to its Target Systems and its Security Systems Delete this thread within the Hour or I am going to the Mods FreeAngola you have an hour so till 11:30 GMT in order to remove this.

I have to agree. He wouldn't sell you OBSAT, and I wouldn't sell you Excalibur, so you go and rip us off. Nice work.
Naasha
13-05-2007, 22:38
I read Vetaka's OBSAT thread about a month ago and for a moment I thought I was reading the thing again. This is a blatant theft, you should remove it.
Siriusa
13-05-2007, 22:45
SO? Then you are saying that for example General Dynamics couldnt produce a fighter jet because Northrop already has one???Or that BMW couldnt make a V12 engine because Mercedes already has one???

The difference is BMW doesn't just make a Mercedes then call it a BMW.
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 22:48
OOC: Dont bother trying to pull any respect from this by replying in In Character your thread which I quote below is more or less word for word from my OBSAT Thread I accept your point on the car buisness but you have practically ripped off both me and Kampfers. Before you responded as you did in the COMECON meeting I had every intention of selling you OBSAT Technology. Your Pathetic.

Evidence of You Ripping me Off:

You Said:

"Once a Radar Operator identifies a threat the MCSATN computer automatically inputs details of the threat into the MCSATN automated network and from there once the threat comes into range of the Automated Anti-Aircraft weapons the computer automatically fires on the designated target."

OBSAT Said:

"Once a Radar Operator or a Command Centre identifys a Threat the OBSAT Air Defence Operators would input the threats details into the OBSAT network from their once that threat comes into range of AA weapons the Network would automatically fire on the threat."

Oh look pratically word for word.

Thats not the only similarity. I have spent 12 Months on OBSAT I was designing and researching before I joined the NS Forum I have researched everything in the System from its Communication Systems to its Security System which thankfully is not on here. Your are a Thief and as such I refuse to accept that the MCSATN System came from your own brain. I designed and built OBSAT. You Stole it and you cannot deny it. Even IC it would take you a while to design and build it seen as less than an hour ago I refused to sell it to you.

YOU FREEANGOLA ARE A THEIF

However I am a good resepectful RP'er and very co-operative if you retract your system now and wait at least an RL month before your post it again. Do this and IC say you researched it and credit Pearce Weapons Inc for the intial idea for example say:

"we came up with MCSATN after it was realised OBSAT gave its host nations a fantastic technological advantage,

I am willing to accept it and even share my own research with you on the subject. You have 45 Minutes to comply or I am taking this to the Mods furthermore I led to believe you have already had 2 warning and a 3 day ban now you are into theft.

I have provided evidence and offered you an alternative as far as I am concerned I have done everything I can for you as I pride myself as I say on my willing to negociate the ball is in your court make a decsion.

Vetaka
Naasha
13-05-2007, 22:49
Once a Radar Operator identifies a threat the MCSATN computer automatically inputs details of the threat into the MCSATN automated network and from there once the threat comes into range of the Automated Anti-Aircraft weapons the computer automatically fires on the designated target.

That's from your post.

Once a Radar Operator or a Command Centre identifys a Threat the OBSAT Air Defence Operators would input the threats details into the OBSAT network from their once that threat comes into range of AA weapons the Network would automatically fire on the threat.

Here's the original. You seem to have taken an axe to Vetaka's post and reassembled the bits in a slightly different order.
1010102
13-05-2007, 22:49
And where does my system use anything with the same name that the OBSAT one does besides the armament and a few words like laser computer and command?

they are right. a while back, Hataria copied Questers' Hood and changed minior details and called it a shogun class. that still means it is theft.
Kampfers
13-05-2007, 22:57
However I am a good resepectful RP'er and very co-operative if you retract your system now and wait at least an RL month before your post it again. Do this and IC say you researched it and credit Pearce Weapons Inc for the intial idea for example say:

"we came up with MCSATN after it was realised OBSAT gave its host nations a fantastic technological advantage,

I am willing to accept it and even share my own research with you on the subject. You have 45 Minutes to comply or I am taking this to the Mods furthermore I led to believe you have already had 2 warning and a 3 day ban now you are into theft.

I have provided evidence and offered you an alternative as far as I am concerned I have done everything I can for you as I pride myself as I say on my willing to negociate the ball is in your court make a decsion.

Vetaka

OOC: Come on man, dont give him that option. Make him delete it.
1010102
13-05-2007, 22:57
But the thing is that i didnt change a few minor details i changed everything i could and so that it could still be an effective defense system but without infringing copyrights from the OBSAT system,and if OBSAT doesnt sell me their system why cant i do like Machintosh did to Microsoft and create a system for FreeAngola private use?

So did you just admit to copying it? You said you changed everything you could, so does that mean you cpopied it?
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:00
If i change everything how can it be a copy?A copy is the exact same thing

Fine, its not a copy, its a rip off.
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:01
But the thing is that i didnt change a few minor details i changed everything i could and so that it could still be an effective defense system but without infringing copyrights from the OBSAT system,and if OBSAT doesnt sell me their system why cant i do like Machintosh did to Microsoft and create a system for FreeAngola private use?

OOC:

OOC for me you have just admited your guilt by saying "I Changed Everything" which to me says you brought up the OBSAT System stole the ideology and changed the words. IC your nation could not of researched and built it within the amount of time it has taken you after all an hour or go a so I refused to sell you OBSAT. Even IC a NS Year has yet to pass I doubt even a NS Month has passed. So IC and OOC you are thief. I have offered to help you. You have 29 Minutes to make a decsion or I am launching a "legal" challenge with the mods.

Regards

Vetaka
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:01
As i said my system does not need humans,so it is even a better system than yours

Until a 30 year old in his mother's basement hacks into it, and takes over your countries defense system.
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:04
Response below

what is the point of that? that is like me posting, I will repsond in a minute if you would just wait for me to post again.
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:05
Read this 1010102

Quote:To prevent any computer takeover the world style situations or any takeover by terrorists the MCSATN is protected by a grid of firewalls,encripted transmissions,constantly chaging passwords,antivirus,hoax(or ghost)units,and there are two buttons on a heavily guarded and highly secret base,one to abort the attack and one for self destruction of the MCSATN system,to activate either of them you need two keys that are with a General at the base whose identity is to remain classified,and vital data is stored inside the satelitte protected by a tungsten case,and FAES(Failiure to Acknowledge Exploding System)which detonates a charge of Semtex to destroy the data while sending a copy of the data to the Base Command if any unauthorized persons try to get access to it.
Unfortunatly the MCSATN Aerial Denial Grid Network System does not allow the use of the system by allied nations for security reasons.This system has been sold to FreeAngola´s Military and going to be used solely by the FreeAngola Military so no purchases from other nations can be made.

So its a very secure system don´t worry about that
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:06
Read this 1010102

Quote:To prevent any computer takeover the world style situations or any takeover by terrorists the MCSATN is protected by a grid of firewalls,encripted transmissions,constantly chaging passwords,antivirus,hoax(or ghost)units,and there are two buttons on a heavily guarded and highly secret base,one to abort the attack and one for self destruction of the MCSATN system,to activate either of them you need two keys that are with a General at the base whose identity is to remain classified,and vital data is stored inside the satelitte protected by a tungsten case,and FAES(Failiure to Acknowledge Exploding System)which detonates a charge of Semtex to destroy the data while sending a copy of the data to the Base Command if any unauthorized persons try to get access to it.
Unfortunatly the MCSATN Aerial Denial Grid Network System does not allow the use of the system by allied nations for security reasons.This system has been sold to FreeAngola´s Military and going to be used solely by the FreeAngola Military so no purchases from other nations can be made.

So its a very secure system don´t worry about that

Just like the real world, no computer system is perfect.
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:07
what is the point of that? that is like me posting, I will repsond in a minute if you would just wait for me to post again.

The response has already been given
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:07
OOC:

OOC for me you have just admited your guilt by saying "I Changed Everything" which to me says you brought up the OBSAT System stole the ideology and changed the words. IC your nation could not of researched and built it within the amount of time it has taken you after all an hour or go a so I refused to sell you OBSAT. Even IC a NS Year has yet to pass I doubt even a NS Month has passed. So IC and OOC you are thief. I have offered to help you. You have 29 Minutes to make a decsion or I am launching a "legal" challenge with the mods.

Regards

Vetaka

You can launch your "legal battle" but i will talk with them too
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:09
Read this 1010102

Quote:To prevent any computer takeover the world style situations or any takeover by terrorists the MCSATN is protected by a grid of firewalls,encripted transmissions,constantly chaging passwords,antivirus,hoax(or ghost)units,and there are two buttons on a heavily guarded and highly secret base,one to abort the attack and one for self destruction of the MCSATN system,to activate either of them you need two keys that are with a General at the base whose identity is to remain classified,and vital data is stored inside the satelitte protected by a tungsten case,and FAES(Failiure to Acknowledge Exploding System)which detonates a charge of Semtex to destroy the data while sending a copy of the data to the Base Command if any unauthorized persons try to get access to it.
Unfortunatly the MCSATN Aerial Denial Grid Network System does not allow the use of the system by allied nations for security reasons.This system has been sold to FreeAngola´s Military and going to be used solely by the FreeAngola Military so no purchases from other nations can be made.

So its a very secure system don´t worry about that

Get it now?It doesn´t rely only in the computer,humans can abort a missile launch or destroy the system
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:09
OOC: Apologies For Spam

FreeAngola in the parameters of NS MT-PMT and the capacity and predicted capacity of AI and Computer Technology it is impossible to have an OBSAT System run by Computers.

a) Security is a major problem I should know ive spent the last 12 months building it. If your system is run by computer it would be a serious security flaw. What safeguards as in place to stop Take Over, Error, Lock Out or AI Breakdown

b) Protocals. You do not explain just how your AI System identifies Threats. Furthermore if your system was run by AI and didnt need humans then it would be fundermentally easy for the Identification Protocals to be corrupted and your system would be easily able to lock on and destroy your own Air Force and even calculate where your Human Assets would be based. Similiar to the Terminator Situation.

Theif Thief Thief 21 Minutes to make a Decsion!!!

Vetaka
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:12
20 minutes
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:20
OOC: Apologies For Spam

FreeAngola in the parameters of NS MT-PMT and the capacity and predicted capacity of AI and Computer Technology it is impossible to have an OBSAT System run by Computers.

a) Security is a major problem I should know ive spent the last 12 months building it. If your system is run by computer it would be a serious security flaw. What safeguards as in place to stop Take Over, Error, Lock Out or AI Breakdown

b) Protocals. You do not explain just how your AI System identifies Threats. Furthermore if your system was run by AI and didnt need humans then it would be fundermentally easy for the Identification Protocals to be corrupted and your system would be easily able to lock on and destroy your own Air Force and even calculate where your Human Assets would be based. Similiar to the Terminator Situation.

Theif Thief Thief 21 Minutes to make a Decsion!!!

Vetaka

In response to your post i will explain how our system works

Point a)Safeguards to take,simple,the General will use the abortion command which the computer recognizes as a shutdown order since no missile launches are being carried out,or if that doesnt work we send engineers in a Space rocket and they are able to repair all that needs to be repaired,or if the problem isnt so great our computer engineers will enter the mainframe of the system and shut it down,in case of a take over the General has also the key that activates the selfdestruction of the system,rest of the details are classified

I will explain Point b) if you extend the period for 15 minutes more so i can have time to write
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:21
In response to your post i will explain how our system works

Point a)Safeguards to take,simple,the General will use the abortion command which the computer recognizes as a shutdown order since no missile launches are being carried out,or if that doesnt work we send engineers in a Space rocket and they are able to repair all that needs to be repaired,or if the problem isnt so great our computer engineers will enter the mainframe of the system and shut it down,in case of a take over the General has also the key that activates the selfdestruction of the system,rest of the details are classified

I will explain Point b) if you extend the period for 15 minutes more so i can have time to write

If you state it OOC, it can't be used ICly. I think you are saying that because you haven't found it in Vetaka's post yet.
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:21
No this is not about you writing its about you explaing how you manged to design your system in under an hour when it has taken me 12 months. IC I ask you how your nation managed to research and build the system in less than 1 NS Month???
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:25
OOC:

Answer the above!!!
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:25
Point b) Every Mechanized Unit(aircraft,tanks,cars,etc) in our military have a receiver that has a specific secret code that the system uses to check in miliseconds with a list of friendly units encrypted in its system that identifies it as friendly
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:26
Point b) Every Mechanized Unit(aircraft,tanks,cars,etc) in our military have a receiver that has a specific secret code that the system uses to check in miliseconds with a list of friendly units encrypted in its system that identifies it as friendly

What if that reciver is damaged? Then you just shot down your own planes.
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:27
If you state it OOC, it can't be used ICly. I think you are saying that because you haven't found it in Vetaka's post yet.

I am speaking as the Armament Sales International Director
Kampfers
13-05-2007, 23:28
Point b) Every Mechanized Unit(aircraft,tanks,cars,etc) in our military have a receiver that has a specific secret code that the system uses to check in miliseconds with a list of friendly units encrypted in its system that identifies it as friendly

You know what would happen in this system? Major LAGGGGG! So your own forces would get killed because when a heatseeking missile is fired at an enemy plane, the plane will be 10 minutes gone by the time the missile goes up, and only your troops will remain. Uh-oh, friendly fire...
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:29
Point b) Every Mechanized Unit(aircraft,tanks,cars,etc) in our military have a receiver that has a specific secret code that the system uses to check in miliseconds with a list of friendly units encrypted in its system that identifies it as friendly

I DON´T KNOW IF YOU CAN READ BUT I AM SPEAKING OF MILISECONDS AND NOT MINUTES
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:29
Times Up, I am now going to File an official protest with the moderators quoting all of the evidence I have already quoted.
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:31
I DON´T KNOW IF YOU CAN READ BUT I AM SPEAKING OF MILISECONDS AND NOT MINUTES

Stop typing in all caps, it just makes you look bad. Then you know nothing about computers. I will put this in terms you understand. If you are going to ride a rollercoaster(your computer system) and you have to wait in line(lag) the more people in line, the longer it takes for your turn(your reciver code) to ride.
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:32
What if that reciver is damaged? Then you just shot down your own planes.

Nope,first of all the antenna is 3cm big and is made of tungsten covered with a classfiied coating BUT if that happens,the second the receiver is destroyed a message is sent to the system that warns him that the plane is still a friendly aircraft,and then he places a digital marker over that plane,that will function as the receiver,warns the system that it is a friendly aircraft
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:34
Stop typing in all caps, it just makes you look bad. Then you know nothing about computers. I will put this in terms you understand. If you are going to ride a rollercoaster(your computer system) and you have to wait in line(lag) the more people in line, the longer it takes for your turn(your reciver code) to ride.

First of all neither of these systems are capable of operating in the Real World so if they aren´t real why can´t my computers be able to do all those calculations in miliseconds?Then i will put it in your rollercoaster terms,simply my rollercoaster is so quick that there is never any line,in one milisecond they ride in the other they leave
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:35
Nope,first of all the antenna is 3cm big and is made of tungsten covered with a clasfied coating BUT if that happens,the second the receiver is destroyed a message is sent to the system that warns him that the plane is still a friendly aircraft,and then he places a digital marker over that plane,that will function as the receiver,warns the system that it is a friendly aircraft

Ok, a 3cm antenna, if a missile hits that area of the plane, then it would be damaged. or if it is hit with a few hundred rounds from a planes gun. How can signal get through the special coating without a massive power generator?
Axis Nova
13-05-2007, 23:38
While I certainly don't condone this blatant theft, you are wrong about one thing, Vetaka: it would certainly be possible to completely automate an air defense network, but it would also be a horrible idea for many reasons, most of which I'm sure you can think of on your own.
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:39
While I certainly don't condone this blatant theft, you are wrong about one thing, Vetaka: it would certainly be possible to completely automate an air defense network, but it would also be a horrible idea for many reasons, most of which I'm sure you can think of on your own.

Mainly EMP.
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:41
Ok, a 3cm antenna, if a missile hits that area of the plane, then it would be damaged. or if it is hit with a few hundred rounds from a planes gun. How can signal get through the special coating without a massive power generator?

The coatting doent go all the way to the top,it stops at the tip,the tip(transmiter end)is made of tungsten only,and the antenna is place normally over the fuel tanks behind the cockpit in fighters for example so if a plane gets shot there it wont matter if it is going to be my system or the other plane that will shoot it down,he will only have time to eject
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:43
Mainly EMP.

Vetaka system can also be affected by EMP,if the enemy launches and EMP wave against Vetaka´s systems it will shutdown all computers and the Operators wont be able to do anything
1010102
13-05-2007, 23:44
Vetaka system can also be affected by EMP,if the enemy launches and EMP wave against Vetaka´s systems it will shutdown all computers and the Operators wont be able to do anything

yes, but if he is hit by an EMP, the operators will know how to cope, but you will have to re build the entire system.
FreeAngola
13-05-2007, 23:48
I just have to shut down the system and immediatly send a crew of engineers to space to repair the system,and remember all vital data is EMP protected,my way only takes a few more hours
Kampfers
13-05-2007, 23:49
Times Up, I am now going to File an official protest with the moderators quoting all of the evidence I have already quoted.

Did you post it in the mod forum? it is helpful to post it there as well.
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:52
To: The Moderation Team

From: Vetaka (The Free Dominion of Vetaka)

Subject:

Moderation Requested regarding the (MCSATN) Aerial Denial Grid Network System and the OBSAT System

Overall Question:

To myself and to many other NS Players the MCSATN System is the same as the OBSAT System. Would the NS moderators be able to establish their position?

Background:

I as the NS Player of Vetaka have designed and built the OBSAT Forum as described within this Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521785

It should be noted that the OBSAT Thread was posted on the 24-03-2007, 10:59 PM. I as the player of Vetaka designed and built the system before I joined NS and have researched the System and its Technologies for the past 12 months. I began to sell the technology and subsequently refused to sell it to the nation of FreeAngola as a result FreeAngola then went on to subsequently produce a system that was exactly the same as OBSAT as he demonstrates here. If you read the OBSAT Thread and then the MCSATN Thread they read more or less the same:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526758

I accept that it is possible for him to design a system similar to OBSAT what I refuse to accept is that he has launched his system within 1 hour of me refusing him OBSAT Technology. Even in IC he would be unable to do it as less than 1 NS Month before he was applying for the OBSAT Network. I appeal to the moderators to intervene or make a decsion upon the situation. If you require more information please do not hesitate to contact me.

Vetaka

Posted just within the Moderation Forum
Kampfers
13-05-2007, 23:53
To: The Moderation Team

From: Vetaka (The Free Dominion of Vetaka)

Subject:

Moderation Requested regarding the (MCSATN) Aerial Denial Grid Network System and the OBSAT System

Overall Question:

To myself and to many other NS Players the MCSATN System is the same as the OBSAT System. Would the NS moderators be able to establish their position?

Background:

I as the NS Player of Vetaka have designed and built the OBSAT Forum as described within this Thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=521785

It should be noted that the OBSAT Thread was posted on the 24-03-2007, 10:59 PM. I as the player of Vetaka designed and built the system before I joined NS and have researched the System and its Technologies for the past 12 months. I began to sell the technology and subsequently refused to sell it to the nation of FreeAngola as a result FreeAngola then went on to subsequently produce a system that was exactly the same as OBSAT as he demonstrates here. If you read the OBSAT Thread and then the MCSATN Thread they read more or less the same:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526758

I accept that it is possible for him to design a system similar to OBSAT what I refuse to accept is that he has launched his system within 1 hour of me refusing him OBSAT Technology. Even in IC he would be unable to do it as less than 1 NS Month before he was applying for the OBSAT Network. I appeal to the moderators to intervene or make a decsion upon the situation. If you require more information please do not hesitate to contact me.

Vetaka

Posted just within the Moderation Forum

i meant in the mod forum itself, as its own thread, not in the mod forum thread within the mod forum...
Vetaka
13-05-2007, 23:58
OOC: My Apologies I am tired and Angry :mad:
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 00:13
OOC: My Apologies I am tired and Angry :mad:

You were the one that wanted a legal battle
Vetaka
14-05-2007, 00:26
OOC: FreeAngola I have lost all respect I ever had for you both IC/OOC'y you are dishounrable, disrepectful and an idiot. I refuse to accept the legal basis of this system as such I at this moment I am leaving this but from now on we are enemies. We all know you stole the idea from Kampfers and myself. When you least expect it I intend to take you down IC and destroy this system.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 00:28
Try
Pan-Arab Barronia
14-05-2007, 00:28
OOC: Vetaka, TG me when you want to roll, we'll be right beside you every step. AA Systems, computerised or no, can't defend against a tank rush...
Carbandia
14-05-2007, 00:32
ooc: What the *bleep*? there is no way you can afford all those fancy gadgets and stuff, especially given how you have been spending money like it's gone out of fashion on armaments..
Vetaka
14-05-2007, 00:32
Tommorrow Armament Sales International is going to present a Space Based Multiple Plataform Defense System comprised of Orbital Platforms that contain Ballistic Missiles,Railguns,Interceptor Missiles,Nuclear Laser Guided Munitions and several HFLD´s (High Frequency Laser Disruptors)

Further details tommorrow

Signed
Armament Sales International Director,

Antonio Lugvamba


OOC: Sounds just like the Excalibur System. But fair enough. I ask that anybody whom wishes to protest against FreeAngola post two words in this thread those being:

"I Protest"
1010102
14-05-2007, 00:32
I protest.
Pan-Arab Barronia
14-05-2007, 00:33
I condemn this blatent disregard for time and effort spend by Vetaka on what is a pretty damn good piece of work. Protest is given.
Kampfers
14-05-2007, 00:36
Tommorrow Armament Sales International is going to present a Space Based Multiple Plataform Defense System comprised of Orbital Platforms that contain Ballistic Missiles,Railguns,Interceptor Missiles,Nuclear Laser Guided Munitions and several HFLD´s (High Frequency Laser Disruptors)

Further details tommorrow

Signed
Armament Sales International Director,

Antonio Lugvamba

Definitely Excalibur. If i wasn't about to get fucked by the Blackhelm Confederation, I'd attack you. Hey Veteka, can you help me out?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12641343#post12641343
1010102
14-05-2007, 00:39
Definitely Excalibur. If i wasn't about to get fucked by the Blackhelm Confederation, I'd attack you. Hey Veteka, can you help me out?
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12641343#post12641343

If I wasn't in the middle of an FT rp(or waiting for it to start because the other RPer is ignoring my TGs.) I would attack him.
Axis Nova
14-05-2007, 00:39
Mainly EMP.

Actually, with properly designed equipment, EMPs are for the most part not a factor.
Pan-Arab Barronia
14-05-2007, 00:43
Well, dang, is it just me that's able to attack him...well, sheesh, I dunno...I'll sort it out tomorrow :p
Tocrowkia
14-05-2007, 00:52
I came.

I saw.

I laughed my ass off.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:16
ooc: What the *bleep*? there is no way you can afford all those fancy gadgets and stuff, especially given how you have been spending money like it's gone out of fashion on armaments..

Armament Sales International is a privately funded business it´s got nothing to do with the Government
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:21
And you can protest all you want,the moderators have given me reason on my system and they have agreed that i did not infringe copyrigths
Kampfers
14-05-2007, 01:23
And you can protest all you want,the moderators have given me reason on my system and they have agreed that i did not infringe copyrigths

IGNORE

the mods also said i could do that.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:24
IGNORE

the mods also said i could do that.

Kampfers don´t act like a little child just because i was right and you weren´t
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:27
IGNORE

the mods also said i could do that.

Post it too many times and i will report you for spamming
Kampfers
14-05-2007, 01:30
Kampfers don´t act like a little child just because i was right and you weren´t

Post it too many times and i will report you for spamming

i posted it once. its not spamming. its a perfectly viable option when someone pulls this kind of crap.
Carbandia
14-05-2007, 01:36
Indeed. And I think I will follow his example.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:38
#Official Statement#

Armament Sales International Director wishes to announce that 49% of its shares have been sold to the FreeAngola Government,so they now have an active participation on the company

Thank You

Signed,

Armament Sales International Director

Antonio Lugvamba
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:38
Indeed. And I think I will follow his example.

You always follow everyones example you must be like a puppet for others
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:40
Indeed. And I think I will follow his example.

And i don´t care
1010102
14-05-2007, 01:41
And you can protest all you want,the moderators have given me reason on my system and they have agreed that i did not infringe copyrigths


No, they said they couldn't do anything about it, since they don't police RP.
Axis Nova
14-05-2007, 01:41
OOC: You know, there's always one way to solve copyright disputes, and that's by giving the offender a boot in the head.

IC: Axis Nova will donate 100 billion credits (worth approximately 1.6 dollars each) to Vetaka as a show of support for any efforts it undertakes to removed the stain known as FreeAngola from the face of the Earth.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:42
Ok
Kampfers
14-05-2007, 01:48
OOC: You know, there's always one way to solve copyright disputes, and that's by giving the offender a boot in the head.

IC: Axis Nova will donate 100 billion credits (worth approximately 1.6 dollars each) to Vetaka as a show of support for any efforts it undertakes to removed the stain known as FreeAngola from the face of the Earth.

OOC: rofl
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:49
Only thing i can say is Attack Me,i am here waiting for you,and now your nuclear missiles wont be able to attack me
Vetaka
14-05-2007, 01:49
Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Response:

To: FreeAngola Foreign Office
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: Copyright Theft

The Free Dominion of Vetaka would like to make it clear that all vetakan markets as of now are hearby closed to all FreeAngolan Companies and Markets. The Free Dominion of Vetaka is exactly that Free however all FreeAngolan Citizens will not be allowed to stay within the Dominion for long than 7 days. The Free Dominion of Vetaka refuses to allow any FreeAngolan Diplomatic Staff within the nation. Furthermore any Ship/Plane that is part of your nation that enters Vetakan Waters or Airspace will be ordered to leave or removed. The Free Dominion of Vetaka intends to call for sanctions from UFAN, COMECON and The Dominion Commonwealth.

I make this clear now that if Vetaka was not on the urge of invasion our sanctions would include military action.

Yours Vetakan Foreign Secretary Thomas Lewis
Frisbeeteria
14-05-2007, 01:53
<snip>

Please stop using the "report this post to a moderator" function. It was never designed for a forum as large as Jolt, and EVERY request sends an email to EVERY moderator in EVERY forum. Use the Moderation forum instead - that's why we made it ... except ...

We've already made it quite clear that there is a difference between In-Character and Out-of-Character statements. That you cannot tell the difference is NOT our problem. You can either stop complaining to the mods with every post, or you can stop being a n00b, or you can stop playing. We really don't care which.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 01:56
Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Response:

To: FreeAngola Foreign Office
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: Copyright Theft

The Free Dominion of Vetaka would like to make it clear that all vetakan markets as of now are hearby closed to all FreeAngolan Companies and Markets.

Response:I DON´T HAVE COMMERCIAL CONNECTIONS WITH YOU

The Free Dominion of Vetaka is exactly that Free however all FreeAngolan Citizens will not be allowed to stay within the Dominion for long than 7 days.

Response:NO CITIZEN FROM FREEANGOLA IS PRESENTLY IN VETAKA AND THEY ARE PROHIBITED TO GO THERE

The Free Dominion of Vetaka refuses to allow any FreeAngolan Diplomatic Staff within the nation.

Response:WE DON´T WANT TO HAVE DIPLOMATIC TIES WITH YOU

Furthermore any Ship/Plane that is part of your nation that enters Vetakan Waters or Airspace will be ordered to leave or removed.

Response:NO PLANES/SHIP FROM FREEANGOLA ARE PRESENTLY IN YOUR COUNTRY NEITHER THEY WILL BE IN THE NEAR FUTURE

The Free Dominion of Vetaka intends to call for sanctions from UFAN, COMECON and The Dominion Commonwealth.

Response:CALL AS MANY AS YOU WANT

I make this clear now that if Vetaka was not on the urge of invasion our sanctions would include military action.

Response:COME AND GET ME

Yours Vetakan Foreign Secretary Thomas Lewis

THANK YOU
1010102
14-05-2007, 02:05
That is it. I am coming out of FT only.(until FreeAngola is conquered, basicly 3 days) FreeAngola, prepare to be attacked. anybody who joins me I will welcome the help.
FreeAngola
14-05-2007, 02:13
#Government Official Statement#

At 1:00AM today there was a Military Coup d ´Etat in FreeAngola,the former dictator Specter has been removed from Office and from now on does not play a part on FreeAngola Government decisions,FreeAngola´s provisionary new leader is the 5 Star General Eduardo Silva,he wishes to apologize for the tension created by the former dictator specifically regarding the OBSAT(Vetaka) vs MCSATN case,and he also wishes to apologize to Vetalia for creating a war environment inside the COMECON reunion,the General has stated that he wants peace with Vetalia and that he is going to shut down the MCSATN System as a token of good will,with no further adue

Signed,

General Eduardo Silva
Pan-Arab Barronia
14-05-2007, 18:18
Well, I did drop an IGNORE bomb on his sorry behind...but then...it may not have gone off...hold on, I'll get my rifle. There's no harm in attacking a country not on your maps, right? [/jk]