NationStates Jolt Archive

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Community for Common Economic and Strategic Development

Member states:

Vetalia
Arab-Canada
Grantes
Pan-Arab Barronia
Googlewoop
Kampfers
Lachenburg
Marckov
Shakal
Kahanistan
Leocardia
Vetaka
Lifesblood
Maraque
Dai Yuddha Ossyria
New Manth
Praetonia
Aurum Domus
Granate
Wagdog
Mauvasia
Droskianishk
Honako

COMECON statistics:

Population: 49.72 billion
General Fund: $8.50 trillion
GDP:$1668.99 trillion

We have decided to make a formal announcement of our plans to construct a new strategic alliance, the Community for Common Economic and Strategic Development. We announce this to the world community in order to invite all nations to partake in this opportunity. Our organization will be both a free trade bloc as well as a common strategic alliance which will enable us to pool our resources and better enhance the stability and continued prosperity of the member states. The basic rules of the organization are as follows:


1. Within 5 years of membership, all member nations that are considered economically developed must eliminate protective trade and labor barriers on products from other member nations. Nations in less developed categories will be given additional time to develop before they are required to dismantle trade barriers in order to ensure they can compete fairly with more developed states. National currencies will be retained and exchange rates determined by the free market.

1a. We ask that all "developed" nations (with a per capita GDP>$20,000) make a contribution based upon their GDP to the general fund. This will be used to finance economic development in less developed states, as well as provide emergency funds in case of emergency. It will be managed by COMECON authorities and all data related to it will be freely available for member states to view.

2. All nations are encouraged to maintain at least some military expenditure equal to a minimum 2% of GDP, although exceptions can be made. Manpower is at national discretion.

3. All member nations must establish diplomatic embassies with each other and provide a representative for COMECON policy meetings when necessary.

4. The COMECON is primarily a defensive partnership. In the event that a nation goes to war and the COMECON judges it to be unjustly offensive in nature, all member nations reserve the right to refuse intervening in that military conflict with no penalty.

We wish that all interested nations list the following in order to be considered:

Approximate economic strength (NS calculators like GUSTO, Sunset, NSeconomy, etc. or reasonable personal estimate of GDP):
Major resources (natural resources as well as industrial capacity):
Military strength (total manpower, military expenditures):
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems (putting Vetalian missile silos in your nation for deterrent purposes):

Thank you, and we hope that this is the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman for the COMECON

Sign me up Rogue Nation of Grantes.

Accepted. But also list your responses to the four questions at the bottom of the post.

(OOC: Before I make an IC response, I have a few questions about the form applicants fill out:

Approximate economic strength:
Do you mean from one of the NS economic calculators?

Major resources:
Natural resources? Or the state of one's industry?

Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems:
Does this mean willingness to buy your products? Or station them in my country?)

Welcome!

Approximate economic strength:
Do you mean from one of the NS economic calculators?

Yes, or your own personal estimate based upon other factors which NS calculators might not be able to measure accurately.

Major resources:
Natural resources? Or the state of one's industry?

Both. The goal is to assess your needs and economic role in the organization.

Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems:Does this mean willingness to buy your products? Or station them in my country?)

You'd be deploying Vetalian strategic weapons as well as anti-missile defenses as part of broadening our first and second-strike capabilities in the event of war.

OCC: What's with all these good-two shoes, don't attack or be ejected...

Boring. ;)

OOC: Dont be to sure... You really can trust an Arab...;)

OCC: What's with all these good-two shoes, don't attack or be ejected...

Boring. ;)

OOC: Notice the "determined to be unjust" part. Do you really think we're going to allow a good opportunity for an offensive war to pass us up? I'm building an NSG version of the Warsaw Pact here. ;)

Bump before I go to bed.

OOC: Which calcultor do you guys use?

OOC: Well, at present I'm using Sunset's calculator because neither NSTracker nor NSeconomy are working. I use GUSTO as well since it's a little different in detail and helps smooth out some of the differences between the two.

Official Statement from the Pan-Arab Barronian Ministry for Foreign Affairs

We shall consider joining COMECON, however, we shall require answers to the following:


What guarantee will we have that Vetalia, having installed Missile Silos within our nation, will not use them against us, allowing itself the chance for an inside strike against our nation?
Our national market is very important to us. What guarantee will we have that nations will not simply swamp the market with foreign goods, crippling our economy? We normally require foreign nations to pay fairly high tariffs to trade within our nation, and exemption is something that we take to be a serious matter. We are concerned that we would be requested to remove tariffs for entire nations, rather than individual companies as we do now.


Yours,

Armen Zeroun
Minister for Foreign Affairs

To the government of Pan-Arab Barronia:

1. Vetalia will never use its missiles on your nation for any reason. Vetalia, or any COMECON nation for that matter, that does so with its own weapons will be declared an enemy of the entire organization and will be attacked with full force and permanently ejected.

Your nation also has the power to refuse to deploy our missiles if you do not want to; however, this will also leave your nation vulnerable to first-strike capabilities of hostile powers.

2. COMECON takes the economic differences of its member states in to account. If your economy is not yet ready to compete with more developed states, the organization will allow you to retain your tariffs until it your nation is economically developed enough to begin dismantling them We will provide economic aid to help your nation move towards eventual competition on the community market.

Regards,
Alexei Vlasikov, Vetalian Ministry of Defense
Valerian Kosyachenko, Vetalian Ministry of State

Official Statement from the Pan-Arab Barronian Ministry for Foreign Affairs


Under that guarantee, we should accept you deploying missiles in our nation; however, we would insist that they be deployed inside Barronian Military Installations. Vetalian personnel will be allowed full access to man/inspect the missiles.
We thank you for your allowances - we are very protective of our economy, and are planning to open it up to select nations in the future.


As for the required information:


Approximate Economic Strength (Sunset Calculator): Good, GDP (Official) $5,098.
Major Resourses: Oil, Heavy Metals
Military Strength: 167,370,000 (3.5% of population), Expenditure: (14%), $3,413,006,252,766
Yes, according to the condition stated above.

Excellent. Consider yourself a member of the COMECON. Based upon our estimates, your economy qualifies for $450 billion in economic aid per year, which will be provided from the COMECON general fund supplied by Vetalia and other more developed economies as needed. This aid requires no repayment, but we encourage you to contribute to the fund when your nation's economy has developed to a point where it can afford it. In addition, we will supply some construction equipment, electronic and telecommunications infrastructure, and engineers to help your economy and its infrastructure develop.

In regard to defense, we agree to the stipulations you have provided for stationing missiles, and will begin deployment of 20 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 100 of our K-30 Saratov IRBMs for defensive purposes as soon as base sites are selected.

On behalf of the COMECON and the nation of Vetalia, we welcome you,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman of the COMECON
Alexei Vlasikov, Vetalian Ministry of Defense
Valerian Kosyachenko, Vetalian Ministry of State

From the desk of TeaAndCoffee Anan, Minister for UN Observation, The Googleistic Democracy of Googlewoop


Greetings from the Nation of Googlewoop

For the purpose of this negotiation I represent the views of Cabinet of the Congressional Parliament of Googlewoop, who in turn represent the people of Googlewoop. My Department within the Government is mainly concerned with monitoring the UN and other organisations within the International community since our nation is no longer a member of such an organisation. As such I am best suited to represent our nation’s views in this matter. If membership of your organisation were agreed to, management of COMECON affairs would fall under my portfolio and any ambassadors or representatives would report to my department.

The requested information is as follows

Googlewoop has enjoyed an extremely powerful economy for many years. At last accurate estimate the GDP was approximately §108 Trillion.

Googlewoop is essentially self reliable although incoming trade is only lightly tariffed. The two most notable exports are automobiles and engines, a market which is lead by SlazCar Motors and GMI (Googlewooper Military Industries) and medical equipment, research and expertise funded by the government’s private health scheme.

Googlewoop has a long and distinguished military history from the days of the ancient republic’s legions to the elite troops employed on peacekeeping mission today. For a nation of its size Googlewoop’s current standing army is small, even for peacetime, in comparison. The branches of the Googlewooper Defence Forces currently have the following numbers in their employ.

Ground Forces

1 Million Fighting Infantry
200 000 Fighting Vehicles
3 Million Logistics Personnel

Air Forces

10 000 Combat Aircraft of various roles
100 000 Squadron Crew
100 000 Airborne Special Forces

Naval Forces

10 Carrier Battle Groups (70 Combat Platforms)
900 Carrier Bourne Aircraft
100 Supply, Fuelling and Medical Ships
100 000 Marine Infantry

Googlewoop has not entered a major conflict for some time. As a result this force is purely for defence, enforcing Googlewoop’s interests on a small scale and peacekeeping operations. Googlewoop’s potential is to employ a far greater defence force if required and these figures do not take into account most logistics and medical aircraft or auxiliary defence systems.

At this time, further negotiation would be required before Vetalian missile systems are allowed to supplement our own on Googlewooper territory however my government is not entirely against the idea in the interests of joint defence.

Our government feels that Googlewoop can both profit a great deal and offer much to fellow members should we be granted fellowship of your organisation.

Regards
TeaAndCoffee Anan
Minister for UN Observation
The Googleistic Democracy of Googlewoop

Excellent. Consider yourself a member of the COMECON. Based upon our estimates, your economy qualifies for $450 billion in economic aid per year, which will be provided from the COMECON general fund supplied by Vetalia and other more developed economies as needed. This aid requires no repayment, but we encourage you to contribute to the fund when your nation's economy has developed to a point where it can afford it. In addition, we will supply some construction equipment, electronic and telecommunications infrastructure, and engineers to help your economy and its infrastructure develop.

In regard to defense, we agree to the stipulations you have provided for stationing missiles, and will begin deployment of 20 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 100 of our K-30 Saratov IRBMs for defensive purposes as soon as base sites are selected.

On behalf of the COMECON and the nation of Vetalia, we welcome you,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman of the COMECON
Alexei Vlasikov, Vetalian Ministry of Defense
Valerian Kosyachenko, Vetalian Ministry of State

We thank you for the generousity of COMECON, however, our infrastructure and telecommunications networks are well-maintained and efficient, albeit government-owned. We primarily believe in the government maintaining control of the majority of public services (electricity, gas, oil, telecoms, public transport, etc), and the private sector is thus limited to goods such as cars, homes, electronic goods, etc.

The main barrier we have to overcome (or so we believe) is a relaxation of trade laws.

To the nation of Googlewoop:

We are extremely pleased to hear a nation as economically developed as yourself is interested in joining the COMECON. We have accepted your membership, and as a highly developed state we encourage you to eliminate any remaining protective tariffs in the next five years to stimulate trade and international investment between members. However, we will permit you to continue to collect tariffs for revenue as needed, and since your system already appears to be strictly revenue in nature, no changes will be necessary.

We ask that you make a contribution of $300 billion to the general fund at the start of the next year as part of our financing plan for less developed states. Vetalia will make its standard contribution of $500 billion, an amount roughly proportionate based upon economic size.

The COMECON is also eager to have such a distinguished military tradition, especially one with a long history of defensive warfare, as yours become part of our force. Your experience will no doubt benefit our defensive capabilities, and no doubt your forces can provide military advisory to member nations seeking to improve the quality of their own forces.

Since your nation is a strong nuclear power, we will not necessarily need to deploy systems in your nation. However, if you would be interested in doing so, the offer still stands.

Thank you, and may your nation prosper along with all of us,
Sergei Antropov, interim chairman of the COMECON

Official Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Vetalia Ministry of Foreign Affairs
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: Comecon Membership Questions

The Free Dominion of Vetaka is interested in the COMECON Organization and we would be fully prepared to join however we have a number of questions we must ask:

1) What is the organizations position on Slavery?
2) The Free Dominion is a member of The Dominion Commonwealth and The United Federation of Allied Nations What is the Organizations Position on these Alliances
3)Regarding the Strategic Deploment of Missiles to Vetaka would Safeguards are in place?

Yours Vetakan Foreign Secretary Thomas Rogers

From: The Lord Fenris Administration
To: Vetalia

We seek to join this organisation.

Approx. Economic Strength: Good
Approx. GDP: $1,819,527,980,600

Major Resources :Uranium and oil.

Military Strength: 1% of the population serve as Logistics, 0.5% Combat Personnel and Reserves.

Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems:
At present we wish to decline the offer, however we would request discussion on the possibilities of a Vetalian Military Base being placed upon our soil. Such a facility could have limited missile/aerial options.

We also request that free trade be slowly introduced to Lifesblood as our economy may not support a swift transition.

Are we accepted?

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The Congressional Parliament and people of Googlewoop are overjoyed at being accepted into the halls of the COMECON-SD. My portfolio has now been renamed and I can assure you that the majority of the resources of my department will now be dedicated to the administration and betterment of this organisation.

Furthermore, our cabinet intends to donate the full amount of 500 Billion to the general fund.

I will personally be acting as ambassador to the organisation.

Regards
TeaAndCoffee Anan
Minister for COMECON-SD and UN Observation
Ambassador to COMECON
The Googleistic Democracy of Googlewoop

The Armed Republic of Kampfers would like to join this economic alliance. The reduction of tariffs has always been one of our economic goals. We have even attempted to push several Free Trade proposals through the UN. In light of Vetalia founding an embassy in Kampfers, Kampfers wishes to join their economic alliance.

Approximate economic strength: $6,926,525,816,832 (sunset) + Excalibur Profits
Major resources: Forests, Fish, Oil, Inudustrial cities, Excalibur Defense Systems Inc
Military strength: $405,079,810,376
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: Medium

Sincerely,
Fuhrer Richtoff

Official Communiqué
The Foreign Ministry

Upon a full and lengthy deliberation by Parliament, the Commonwealth of Granzi has decided not to join the COMECON-SD at this time. We feel that the charter of this organization is not compatible with our national interests, specifically the mutual defense clause. However, the Foreign Ministry does wish well to all those nations currently involved with the COMECON-SD.

With regards,

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Wenyuan Sun
Minister of Foreign Affairs

To the Nation of Kampfers:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted. Your nation's strong but rapidly growing economy will provide a solid boost to our regional GDP, and we have need of the resources you can provide. We hope that your nation will benefit from our strategic community and that it will provide an environment conducive to your strategic goals.

As a more developed state, we ask that you contribute $5 billion to the COMECON general fund at the start of the next fiscal year.

In regard to Vetalian missiles, if you accept we will station 10 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 50 K-30 Saratov-class IRBMs in your nation under the oversight of your government and armed forces.

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

To: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

1) What is the organizations position on Slavery?

The COMECON does not support slavery, and nations that join are encourage to take steps to fight labor exploitation in their nation. However, some forms of indentured servitude may be justified if they have solid reasoning behind them.

2) The Free Dominion is a member of The Dominion Commonwealth and The United Federation of Allied Nations What is the Organizations Position on these Alliances

At present, we have limited ties to these organizations as we have just been founded, but we are certainly not hostile and our nations maintain diplomatic ties. The COMECON will pursue friendly relations with these states and their organizations.

3)Regarding the Strategic Deploment of Missiles to Vetaka would Safeguards are in place?

Absolutely. Your government would share oversight and would be responsible for sighting missiles.

From the Desk of TeaAndCoffee Anan, Minister for COMECON-SD and UN Observation, The Googleistic Democracy of Googlewoop


Fellow COMECON-SD Delegates

It is with great pleasure that I present to the organisation a copy of a bill, recently passed in The Congressional Parliament removing remaining trade tariffs and quotas from other member nations of COMECON-SD


Bill 8252 – Abolishion of Trade Tariffs and Quotas from COMECON-SD Members

Moved: Hon. TeaAndCoffee Anan, Member for Hunter, Minister for COMECON-SD and UN Observation
Endorsed: Hon. Alexanda Doona, Member for Eastern Central Plains, Minister for Foreign Affairs
Opposed: Hon. Kevin Shudder, Member for Central Mountains

1. No trade tariff shall be imposed on the imports of goods and services from and present or future nation who is or becomes a registered member of the Community for Common Economic and Strategic Development.

2. No trade quota shall apply to the imports of goods and services from and present or future nation who is or becomes a registered member of the Community for Common Economic and Strategic Development.

Ballot: Enorsed – 97 Opposed – 3

Bill Passed


I am pleased to report that the entirety of the Parliament support the move to join COMECON-SD and that the only opposition to the free trade deals was members from agricultural seats.


Regards
TeaAndCoffee Anan

To the Nation of Kampfers:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted. Your nation's strong but rapidly growing economy will provide a solid boost to our regional GDP, and we have need of the resources you can provide. We hope that your nation will benefit from our strategic community and that it will provide an environment conducive to your strategic goals.

As a more developed state, we ask that you contribute $5 billion to the COMECON general fund at the start of the next fiscal year.

In regard to Vetalian missiles, if you accept we will station 10 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 50 K-30 Saratov-class IRBMs in your nation under the oversight of your government and armed forces.

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

Official Reply -

The nation of Kampfers is overjoyed that they have been accepted into this economic alliance. The contribution of 5 billion USD will be taken care of as soon as the new year begins. We have decided that Vetalian missiles can be placed in our country, and will begin work on those installations at once. We too hope for a strong strategic partnership within this organization. We wish to pose one question, however. How is this alliance governed? Are there councils, parliments, or other governing bodies?

Sincerely,
Fuhrer Richtoff

To the Government of Pan-Arab Barronia

That is good to hear. We will halt shipments of these supplies to your nation and transfer them instead to monetary grants for your nation to spend at your discretion. However, if you do need infrastructural supplies, they will be available.

We will continue to monitor your situation and assess the need for tariffs in relation to your economic development.

Sergei Antropov, Chairman, COMECON-SD

To the Nation of Kampfers:

We are pleased to hear of your enthusiasm for hosting missiles in your territory. We will deploy 50 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 100 K-30 Saratov IRBMs to provide your nation with first and second-strike capabilities against enemy aggression if and when it occurs.

In regard to the government of this alliance, we are currently in the transitional phase and the Vetalian government is taking responsibility for approving members and determining policy. However, in the near future:

1. We will hold elections for the Chairman of the COMECON, who will serve as its diplomatic representative to other organizations. This Chairman also possesses limited veto power over Council decisions.

2. Each state will send representatives to the CONECON Council, which will meet to determine policy for the entire bloc. Representation will be primarily based upon proportionate population, with additional consideration for economic and military factors.

3. The COMECON Security Council will be responsible for security and international incidents, and will consist of one representative from each state. Nations with a population greater than one billion will be granted veto power, which can only be overturned by a 66% vote of the security council.

At present, veto-wielding nations are Vetalia, Googlewoop, and Pan-Arab Barronia.

To the Nation of Kampfers:

We are pleased to hear of your enthusiasm for hosting missiles in your territory. We will deploy 50 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 100 K-30 Saratov IRBMs to provide your nation with first and second-strike capabilities against enemy aggression if and when it occurs.

In regard to the government of this alliance, we are currently in the transitional phase and the Vetalian government is taking responsibility for approving members and determining policy. However, in the near future:

1. We will hold elections for the Chairman of the COMECON, who will serve as its diplomatic representative to other organizations. This Chairman also possesses limited veto power over Council decisions.

2. Each state will send representatives to the CONECON Council, which will meet to determine policy for the entire bloc. Representation will be primarily based upon proportionate population, with additional consideration for economic and military factors.

3. The COMECON Security Council will be responsible for security and international incidents, and will consist of one representative from each state. Nations with a population greater than one billion will be granted veto power, which can only be overturned by a 66% vote of the security council.

At present, veto-wielding nations are Vetalia, Googlewoop, and Pan-Arab Barronia.

OOC: poop. i hate being a new nation. never get any powers...

Are the COMECON Council and the COMECON Security Council the same?

OOC: It takes time, but really, veto power isn't that powerful or at least not as powerful as the UNSC.

IC:

The Security Council and the COMECON council are not the same. The Security Council only meets when there is a perceived threat to the organization or one of its members. Otherwise, everything is handled by the COMECON council.

Communiqué Officiel du Gouvernement de Ses Altesses Royales:

His Royal Highness, having vested the faith of such policies amongst his most trusted of advisors to the Court, so solemnly petitions the state of Vetalia in regards to formal admission of the Grand Duchy of Lachenburg into the Community for Common Economic and Strategic Development. Although having sustained a national policy of non-intervention for the past two centuries, it has been deemed unwise in recent years for such isolation to continue forwards. This is in part mostly to the recent and growing conflagrations of conflict among nations, in addition to an almost internationally endorsed precedent of brinksmanship and unbound aggression which promotes such violence. By investing our faith into the integrity and certainly formidable faculties of said organization, His Royal Highness hopes to prevent such brutality from disrupting the customs and traditions of our great peoples.

Already, as a nation of unconstrained principle in regards to matters of trade and finance, the Grand Duchy feels its continued pursuance of a Laissez-faire economic orientation complies with the primary perquisites aforementioned. In furtherance, His Royal Highness is more than willing to oversee the establishment of foreign consulates within his realm as required.

However, in regards to said policy of Military Expenditure, we must protest. Currently, the Armed Forces of the Grand Duchy, in being derived from private enterprises, has no presence of official Government Expenditure; instead, the costs of operation, deployment, and maintenance are allocated by the Chamber of Deputies under the status of 'Law & Order.' His Royal Highness hopes this does not conflict with the demands as aforementioned (although, if so, His Royal Highness' Government is more than willing to negotiate a comparable settlement with that of the Vetalian Government so as to facilitate access, when upon the occasion presents itself).

May we thank you for your time and good luck in your endeavours.

Your Humble Servant,

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Comte de Chinon
Premier ministre du Lachenburg

PS ~ All necessary information has been attached below:

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Approximate Economic Strength: Frightening
Approximate GDP [PPP]: $217,637,284,585,525 United States Dollars
Major Resources: Iron Ore, Lead, Arable Land
Military Strength: N/A (The Ducal Goverment maintains an unspecified number of private security contractors, typically varying in number from 400,000 to 1.1 million)
Regarding the Strategic Deploment of Missiles within Lachenburg: As a nation which regards its sovereignty to the highest accord, we must reserve our commitment to such a placement of ordinance as of this time. However, His Royal Highness shall gladly negotiate on the matter of future installations.

To the nation and people of Lachenburg:

Your request to join the COMECON has been enthusiastically accepted by our leadership. Your nation's exceptionally strong economy and large population as well as its economic resources are an exceptional asset to our organization. We hope that your nation will benefit from our strategic community and that it will provide a strong defensive partnership that will not only allow your nation to continue its non-interventionist policies but allow it to wield peaceful authority on an international scale.

As a highly developed state, we ask that you contribute $750 billion to the COMECON general fund at the start of the next fiscal year.

Although you do not maintain military forces, we are more than willing to make an exception based upon your powerful economy and large population, which could be mobilized easily in the event of a crisis. Indeed, your economy itself provides a strong influence on international affairs far beyond equivalent military power. In addition, your nation has qualified for veto power on the Security Council.

We respect and understand your decision to refuse an offer to station weapons in your territory, and wish to inform you this will have no negative effects on your membership whatsoever.

Best wishes and welcome to the alliance,
Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

Approximate economic strength: $1,069,263,245,787

Major resources: Uranium Mining, Arms Manufacturing, and Automobile Manufacturing industries.

Military strength: 2.5% of pop as active and logistical forces

Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: We would great welcome any assistence in our nations defense

To the Nation of Marckov:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted. Your nation's small, but dynamic and rapidly growing economy will provide a solid boost to our regional GDP, and we have need of the resources you can provide, in particular uranium for our strategic weapons and nuclear power industry. We hope that your nation will benefit from our strategic community and that it will provide an environment conducive to your strategic goals.

As a highly developed state, we ask that you contribute $2.5 billion to the COMECON general fund at the start of the next fiscal year.

In regard to Vetalian missiles, we will station 5 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 20 K-30 Saratov-class IRBMs in your nation under the oversight of your government and armed forces.

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

B-b-b Bump It Up

The Shakal Empire wishes to join COMECON if it is still at all possible.

Approximate Econimic Strength:All Consuming
Approximate GDP:$24,109,347,675,395
Major Resources:Titanium, Uranium, Iron, Coal
Military Strength:Ranges Depending On Service Cycle From 6-7 million
Vetalia Strategic Missle Deployment: We humbly ask that this be discussed in more detail if the Shakal are allowed to join COMECON.

To the Nation of Shakal:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted. Your nation's strong economy will provide a solid boost to our regional GDP, and we have need of the resources you can provide, in particular uranium and titanium for our strategic weapons and nuclear power industry. We hope that your nation will benefit from our strategic community and that it will provide an environment conducive to your strategic goals.

As a mostly developed state, your nation qualifies for a limited amount of COMECON aid, $50 billion dollars, if you feel it necessary to advance particular sectors of your economy. However, since you are almost at the $20,000 threshold for a highly developed economy, this will likely not be necessary since your economy is already highly developed.

In regard to Vetalian missiles, if you accept we will station 25 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 40 K-30 Saratov-class IRBMs in your nation under the oversight of your government and armed forces. These will be used to help your nation retain strong first and second-strike capabilities against enemy attack if it occurs.

In addition, your nation qualifies for veto power over decisions made by the COMECON security council

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

[OOC: Since the end of the Doomani invasion and being displaced to Haven, I RP a population of 600 million, the number that made it out of the invasion, when my population was about 3.6 billion. Stats are reduced to 15% of the Sunset stats for this.]

Official Announcement from the Free Havenic Republic of Kahanistan
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
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With our recent cooperation on the Hatarian front, and our nation's history of being unjustly attacked by larger and more powerful states, it has come time that we seek alliances with nations that will assist us and share our ideologies.

Our current GDP is roughly 23 trillion USD, we have very fertile soil and agriculture is very successful here. We mainly grow industrial hemp and various grains. Havenic Kahanistan is resource rich in heavy metals such as are needed for arms production and vehicle manufacturing.

We have a standing military of three million personnel, and twelve million in reserves. They are armed with Sarzonian M-32's and Macabean Hali-42's, in addition to older rifles; some reserve units still use the AK-47. We use indigenous tanks, Isselmere-Nielander warships and Sarzonian and Macabean heavy ground vehicles and aircraft. Our total defense budget is approximately 720 billion USD, or roughly eight percent of our budget.

Our policy regarding the deployment of strategic weapons is that they never target a civilian population, and nuclear weapons only be deployed if the enemy is about to overrun the country or has attacked with nuclear weapons.

We hope that our current struggle with Midlonia does not affect our prospects for membership in this alliance.

Signed,
Rachel C. Levitt,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

The Shakal Empire is glad to be accepted as part of this alliance. We also accept the ICBM's offered. So long as they remain under our military supervision no foreseeable problem should ever occur.

To the Nation of Kahanistan:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted. In regard to the Midlonian situation, that is a preexisting diplomatic conflict and will not be a problem; however, the COMECON will not provide military aid to you in this situation since it occurred before entry as per our "clean slate" policy in regard to geopolitics.

As a highly developed state, we ask that your nation contribute $55 billion dollars to the COMECON general fund. This money will go towards economic development for poorer nations in our membership.

We are greatly pleased that such a strong military force is entering our organization, and understand your nation's reasoning for not deploying our missiles. We will offer 40 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 70 K-30 Saratov-class IRBMs for you to keep on reserve for emergencies, but we will not require you to target or keep them ready for launch except in case of extreme emergency.

In addition, your nation, based upon its prewar population, qualifies for veto power over decisions made by the COMECON security council. Please keep us updated on the economic and population conditions of your nation in order to provide your nation with proper influence in the organization.

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

Add Leocardia, as we had the talk.

It is done. Welcome to the COMECON. In regard to the political situation in Leocardia, the COMECON will not play a part since this is a strictly bilateral mission to help your nation suppress the rebellion.

Official Free Dominion of Vetaka Diplomatic Message:

To: Vetalia Ministry of Defence
From: Vetakan Foreign Affairs

Subject: Vetakan Membership

Greetings

The Free Dominion of Vetaka would like to join Comecon however as I am sure you are aware of the situation in Hataria we will hold off our membership application until that situation has calmed.

Yours Vetakan Foreign Secretary Thomas Lewis

OOC: Since it'll still maybe be 4 days or so until the first COMECON meeting, I think the Hatarian situation will be more or less resolved, at least the most serious issues.

IC:

To the people and nation of Vetaka:

We understand entirely. Your nation's application will be granted now, but since there are some geopolitical externalities, we will allow you to wait before becoming an effective member of the organization. No requirements or commitments will be needed at this point, although you are technically accepted as a member and will not need to apply again. We hope the Hatarian situation can be resolved as soon as possible, but there is no guarantee.

Nonetheless, welcome to the COMECON.

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman of the COMECON.

OoC: Was my request to join this organisation refused?

OOC: I missed it. I'll add it now.

From: The Lord Fenris Administration
To: Vetalia

We would also like to contribute $5,000,000,000 [Five Billion] to COMECON funds at the beginning of the new year.

-Transmission End-

OoC: Thanks.

Would you mind if I created a Regiment/Division designated to the protection of COMECON's interests?

It'd obviously only be implemented with the organisations permission/request, I just thought it'd be neat to have. xD.

The Democratic Elective Monarchy of Maraque would like to join this organization, for the betterment of all member states and Maraque itself.

Approximate economic strength: Frightening, $229,524,663,817,143.00 ($46,575.62 per capita) (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/main.aspx)
Major resources: Oil, uranium, lumber, diamonds, nuclear power, information technology, automobile manufacturing, medical supplies, electronics, aeronautics
Military strength: 24,640,000, $1,066,612,384,696.32 (0.46% of GDP, 4% of budget)
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: High

Best regards,
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Nicholas Malishah

Official Message from the Denomination of Foreign Affairs, Central Command, New Manth

We have reviewed the terms of your alliance and would like to discuss terms upon which New Manth might join it. Should you be interested, an ambassador in Suez is prepared to fly to your country to begin discussions.

Oh, and greetings to our friends the Shakal. And I see that the Vetakans are here as well. Small world.

Commander Sayid Mattan
Denomination of Foreign Diplomacy
Dominion of New Manth


Approximate economic strength (NS calculators like GUSTO, Sunset, NSeconomy, etc. or reasonable personal estimate of GDP): Powerhouse strength. GDP is about 4-4.5 trillion depending on the calculator, GDP per capita is probably in the 20-25,000 NSUSD range, though the calculator I usually use for this is down so it's an estimate.
Major resources (natural resources as well as industrial capacity): Large industrial capacity (arms manufacturing being the major home industry). Major natural resources include light and heavy metals, oil, and various agricultural products. And sand ;) . Major imports are water and lumber, among others.
Military strength (total manpower, military expenditures): Again the calculator I prefer is down, but our combined military and Law & Order spending makes up about 70-75% of the budget, and it's fairly evenly split between the two. Works out to somewhere between 1.2 and 1.5 trillion NSUSD, again fairly evenly split betwen military and Law&Order.
IC we will keep detailed military statistics classified for the time being in case you decide you don't like us after all ;) . But the funding numbers are freely provided.

Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems (putting Vetalian missile silos in your nation for deterrent purposes):

Well we've already got strategic and tactical nuclear weapons of our own, and can quite adequately defend ourselves against most nations on that level. But we won't say no. If some 5 billion nation or something comes along someday and wants to threaten us with WMDs, it might be worth the extra firepower.

OOC: Use this one, it's like the rest. http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/main.aspx

That one gives a military budget of 650.5 billion, a Law and order budget of the same, and (reverse engineering from that since it doesn't give a total GDP), a GDP of slightly over 4.5 trillion, and a GDP per capita of $16,669. Guess I overestimated the GDP per capita... must be all those military expenditures. ;)

OOC: That's weird. Your economic stats don't show up, but mine do. :eek:

OOC: There's a box that says "Calculate Economic Tables" which you must check to get economic stats.

IC:
After much consideration, the Imperial Federation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria would like to submit its application to join this alliance.

Approximate economic strength: Frightening;
GDP=US$46,699,188,367,201.90; GDP/capita=US$36,512.27

Major resources:
Major industries=Petroleum and natural gas, copper, cobalt, tin, tungsten, iron, lead, coal, pharmaceuticals, fertilizer, cement, construction materials, wood and wood products, agricultural processing (Rice, beans, fish and fish products, hardwood, sugarcane, potatoes, wheat, spices, cotton, fruit, vegetables, cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, milk, poultry, tobacco, cannabis, salvia divinorum, opium poppy, entheogenic fungi, mescaline-producing cacti, betel nut, coca, tea, khat), tourism, transshipment facilities, state-funded aerospace and telecommunications industries, garments, jade and gems

Military strength:
Total manpower=46,860,000; Military expenditures=$7,086,288,521,831.40

Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems (putting Vetalian missile silos in your nation for deterrent purposes):
We'd be willing to purchase Vetalian equipment and have it in our country under the supervision of our military.

To the Nation of Maraque:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted.

As one of our most developed economies, we ask that your nation contribute $800 billion dollars to the COMECON general fund. This money will go towards economic development for poorer nations in our membership.

Your additional military forces will be much appreciated, and your nation's large population is a powerful addition to our economy and demographics. We appreciate your enthusiasm for our strategic deployment and will offer 150 L-21 Vindicator ICBMs and 300 K-30 Saratov-class IRBMs for your nation to use for its defense as part of the COMECON's multinational missile defense system.

The nation of Maraque also qualifies for veto power under the security council.


Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

To the Nation of New Manth:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted.

As one of our intermediately developed economies, your nation qualifies for a small amount of financial backing for major projects. Should you require it, please detail your needs at the first meeting of the COMECON in a few days.

Your significant military spending is extremely appreciated and will go far to enhance the security of our organization. We have may need of your nation's security personnel in order to improve our own security and improve the quality of armed forces across the organization.

Should you need strategic weaponry, the might of the COMECON will be behind you to repel any foreign hostility in addition to support from Vetalia's strategic rocket forces.

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

To the Nation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria :

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted.

As one of our highly developed economies, we ask that your nation contribute $300 billion dollars to the COMECON general fund. This money will go towards economic development for poorer nations in our membership.

Your additional military forces will be much appreciated, and your nation's sizable population is a powerful addition to our economy and demographics. We appreciate your interest in our strategic weapons and would be willing to sell some of our strategic for your nation to use for its defense as part of the COMECON's multinational missile defense system. This can be discussed at the first general meeting of the COMECON.

The nation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria also qualifies for veto power under the security council.

Thank you, and we hope this marks the beginning of a strong strategic partnership,

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

The Shakal Empire welcomes New Manth and Vetaka to COMECON-SD we hope this organization will help smooth relations between all of us.

For your records,
Approximate economic strength: GDP: ~265 trillion, Unemployment rate: under 3%, Active trade with many nations
Major resources :oil, coal, copper, lead, uranium, bauxite, gold, iron, nickel, tungsten, zinc, natural gas, timber, obscenely massive manufacturing capability. The largest industries, in order are: Arms Manufacturing, Automobile Manufacturing and Uranium Mining
Military strength : Military expenditures: $~50 trillion
Active Troops: ~185 million
Total Reserves: 97.3 million
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems : Under no circumstances
I must however note at this time that The Phoenix Milita is not applying, only exploring the options.
We have several concerns and a number of departments will have input. Our first and one of the most pressing questions is: How much contribution to the general fund is required at minimum for a developed nation such as ours that wishes to join?

-Edward Perez
State Dept.

The Imperial Federation appreciates your decision to allow us entry into this organization and to show our appreciation we will donate twice what you asked us to donate. The US$600 billion will be wired to the COMECON-SD account ASAP. We are eager to participate in the first meeting of this new alliance.

To the nation of The Phoenix Militia:

Your interest is duly noted, and we would be happy to address your questions in regard to the COMECON. The contribution to the general fund is roughly based on the size of your economy vs. Vetalia times $500 billion. So, based upon the information you have provided, your nation would be required to contribute $625 billion since your nation's economy is roughly 25% larger than ours.

We hope this addresses your question, and will be able to answer any other questions you have. Note that deployment of our missiles is neither necessary nor does it affect your membership or status in our organization.

Regards,
Sergei Antrpov, interim chairman, COMECON

To the nation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria,

Your enthusiasm and generosity to our organization is extremely appreciated. It is always good to see nations go above and beyond what is required of them, and rest assured your generosity will not be forgotten by the organization.

Thank you,
Sergei Antropov

The Democratic Elective Monarchy is happy to be accepted into this grand organization, however, there is one concern we must address:

Simply put; the Democratic Elective Monarchy is not willing to incur debt in order to join this alliance. This means we will not contribute $800 billion to this alliance, because doing so would incur a $255 billion debt. Instead, we wish to contribute $400 billion now, and $400 billion during the next fiscal year.

To the nation of Maraque:

That is more than acceptable. Contribution to the COMECON is not necessary as part of your membership, but is strongly encouraged to help us finance our international goals and to give your nation a say in allocation of funds at our general meeting. You can pay your funds however you feel is best for your nation; it does not have to be paid immediately and can be financed over a prolonged period.

In the event of a shortfall, Vetalia's government will finance the difference, as we are running a sizable budget surplus and will for the foreseeable future.

Regards,
Interim Chairman Sergei Antropov

Official Announcement from the Free Havenic Republic of Kahanistan
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/kahanistan.jpg

The Government of Kahanistan accepts the offer of 110 strategic missiles and willingly contributes the $55 billion USD asked of it to support COMECON-SD.

These missiles may well preserve our sovereignty should the tide of our conflict go against us.

Signed,
Rachel C. Levitt,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Official Message From Aurum Domus High Command

We would like to join this alliance.

Approximate economic strength: GDP $17,109,695,597,707
Major resources: Gold, silver, uranium, precious gems, iron, tin, copper, major industry Arms Manufacturing
Military strength: 7 million active duty infantry soldiers includes special forces, marines, navy and airforce etc., small navy, medium sized airforce
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: We already have our own strategic defense system and we are linked to OBSAT, it is not necessary unless you really think we need it

Official Message from (newly appointed) New Manthian Ambassador Qusay Al-Azeem

We note that a number of COMECON-SD nations, including New Manth, are claiming territory on a newly vacant continent here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526423) Might we suggest coordinating our efforts in order to facilitate economic growth, construction of infrastructure, expansion, and, if necessary, mutual defense?

The Republican Monarchy of Granate wishes to join this alliance. We were recommended through the UFAN Alliance.

Approximate economic strength: GDP: $61,981,323,971,134.40 GDP Per Capita: $36,416.76
Major resources: Natural Resources: Iron, Aluminum, Steel, Limestone, and Marble. Manufactured Resources: Automobiles, Weaponry, and Software
Military strength: Current Military Numbers: 10,000,000 Military Expenditure: $16,157,439,981,543.90
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: Limited if any.

We hope this is acceptable.

Sir,

His Majesty's Government congratulates Vetalia on the creation of an organisation dedicated to free trade, and Praetonia submits an application of membership.

The country currently has a GNP per capita of $58,593, almost no regulation of business, foreign investment or employment and very low tax rates. This currently gives a total GNP of just over $400 trillion. As such, Praetonia is one of the richest countries in the world today - we believe a testament to the success of the liberal economic policies brought into effect by this present government, combined with a productive populace, dedicated education establishment and developed industrial base. Praetonia is a prolific investor in foreign markets, developed and developing, and it is for this reason that we choose to use the GNP measure over the less representative GDP measure.

The country has been blessed by nature with excellent natural deposits of titanium, coal, haematite, bauxite, uranium, gold, silver, tin and natural gas within the mainland's borders. Our colonies and posssessions contribute a large amount of high-quality farm land. There are Praetonian companies operating abroad that trade in almost every good known to man, including oil, copper, zinc, magnesium and tungsten. The country has a vast manufacturing base, especially in chemicals, electronics and shipbuilding, supported by strong investment and a world-class financial services sector.

Praetonia is widely viewed as a pre-eminent maritime power, with military spending totalling around $55 trillion, and is one of the select group of countries to operate "supercapital" warships. The army and airforce are very well equipped, including with highly advanced space-plane bombers developed from nuclear thermal rocket technology.

We will not, however, accept the deployment of foreign weaponry to our country, and question the relevence of this request in the context of a free trade association. Vetalia may wish to consider taking its desire to widely deploy its nuclear deterrent down a seperate avenue.

Yours,

Lord Falmouth,
Head of the Board of Trade

To the nation of Praetonia:

Your application to the COMECON is eagerly accepted. Your nation's colossal economic and military strength will enable our organization to expand its economic strength by nearly 40% and double our estimated military strength.

Praetonia, as our most developed economy, indeed one of the most staggeringly powerful in the world, will be expected to contribute approximately $1.1 trillion dollars to the COMECON fund. In addition, your nation will possess the most votes in our general council as well as veto power on the security council....effectively, you are the leader within this organization at present. We understand your decision not to deploy our missiles and wish to inform you that it will have zero impact on your status. It is merely a way for us to provide nations without the ability to deploy a nuclear deterrent first and second-strike capabilities. Even so, your military power is more than sufficient to defend your national interests as well as our collective interests.

Congratulations on your membership in the COMECON, and we eagerly await your nation's contribution to our organization.

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman.

To the nations of Granate and Aurum Domus:

Both of your applications have been accepted.

(OOC: I'd have more time to write a response, but my battery is going and I need to get home and charge it)

The Phoenix Milita would like to express that, at this time, we are not interested in membership in the alliance. Although we believed earlier that the alliance would greatly benefit our economy, due to the extreme financial contributions required, the precarious strategic responsibilities it creates and the unwieldy size of the alliance we can not join. In a nutshell, we feel the alliance is more trouble than it is worth. Thank you for considering us and good luck with your alliance.

-Edward Perez
State Dept.

Very well. We hope that your nation and the COMECON can maintain friendly ties, and if you change your mind we will be more than happy to accommodate your needs.

Best wishes,
Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

Attention members: The COMECON will hold its first general meeting this weekend, most likely Saturday. At this time, we will determine the allocation of council seats, elect a permanent chairman, and vote on our first issues as an organization

Note that after this point entry in to the COMECON will require approval by the council at our general meetings. This thread will still be the place to submit your application, but approval will require a vote by the council.

To the nation of Praetonia:

Your application to the COMECON is eagerly accepted. Your nation's colossal economic and military strength will enable our organization to expand its economic strength by nearly 40% and double our estimated military strength.

Praetonia, as our most developed economy, indeed one of the most staggeringly powerful in the world, will be expected to contribute approximately $1.1 trillion dollars to the COMECON fund. In addition, your nation will possess the most votes in our general council as well as veto power on the security council....effectively, you are the leader within this organization at present. We understand your decision not to deploy our missiles and wish to inform you that it will have zero impact on your status. It is merely a way for us to provide nations without the ability to deploy a nuclear deterrent first and second-strike capabilities. Even so, your military power is more than sufficient to defend your national interests as well as our collective interests.

Congratulations on your membership in the COMECON, and we eagerly await your nation's contribution to our organization.

Sergei Antropov, interim chairman.

Sergei Antropov,

Thankyou for your swift acceptance of Praetonia's application to join the alliance. Thankyou also for informing us of the influence we now have within the organisation. Praetonia is fully commited to the COMECON-SD agreement, and it is our intent to create a free trade area that is as close to global in scale as possible. The benefits of free trade between nations, both in creating internal prosperity, and in dissuading inter-state wars, are becoming undeniable, as is evidenced by the recent shifts of several powerful nations from an historic stance of protectionism to a more open stance of limited free marketeerism.

We do however believe that it may be better to more clearly disassociate the strategic weapons sharing agreement with the free trade agreement, as an assumption that acceptance of the former could be a prerequisite for participating fully in the latter may well put off some members. Overall, however, we are pleased with how the organisation is being run, and its laissez-faire style is both effective and in-keeping with the ideals that it seeks to promote.

With regards to contributions to the COMECON-SD fund -- $1.1 trillion is understandably a huge amount of money, and it is predicted that to fund it taxes would have to rise by almost 1.5% in order to fund it. As the fund is intended to provide investment in other COMECON-SD states, we propose that it be possible for all members to write off private investment into COMECON-SD states against their commitments to the fund, thereby reducing the taxation obligation, encouraging private investment and the further loosening of trade barriers to facilitate investment in the other countries of the COMECON-SD, whilst still achieving the fund's goals of providing investment and money for development in other COMECON-SD states.

Yours,

Lord Falmouth,
Head of the Board of Trade

Sergei Antropov,

Thankyou for your swift acceptance of Praetonia's application to join the alliance. Thankyou also for informing us of the influence we now have within the organisation. Praetonia is fully commited to the COMECON-SD agreement, and it is our intent to create a free trade area that is as close to global in scale as possible. The benefits of free trade between nations, both in creating internal prosperity, and in dissuading inter-state wars, are becoming undeniable, as is evidenced by the recent shifts of several powerful nations from an historic stance of protectionism to a more open stance of limited free marketeerism.

We do however believe that it may be better to more clearly disassociate the strategic weapons sharing agreement with the free trade agreement, as an assumption that acceptance of the former could be a prerequisite for participating fully in the latter may well put off some members. Overall, however, we are pleased with how the organisation is being run, and its laissez-faire style is both effective and in-keeping with the ideals that it seeks to promote.

With regards to contributions to the COMECON-SD fund -- $1.1 trillion is understandably a huge amount of money, and it is predicted that to fund it taxes would have to rise by almost 1.5% in order to fund it. As the fund is intended to provide investment in other COMECON-SD states, we propose that it be possible for all members to write off private investment into COMECON-SD states against their commitments to the fund, thereby reducing the taxation obligation, encouraging private investment and the further loosening of trade barriers to facilitate investment in the other countries of the COMECON-SD, whilst still achieving the fund's goals of providing investment and money for development in other COMECON-SD states.

Yours,

Lord Falmouth,
Head of the Board of Trade

The Republican Monarchy of Granate supports this proposal. Our government is currently only offering 350 Billion USD. We are hoping that the numerous Corporations of Granate are willing to donate the rest. We have already received 200 Billion USD from Hellsing Arms and 120 Billion from the Royal Granatian Auto Corp, with numerous smaller donations from other corporations and businesses around Granate. The current total for our collective donation stands at roughly 800 Billion USD. We are hoping to acquire the other 300 Billion soon.

Sincerely
Ivan Rudiger Minister of Finance for
The Republican Monarchy of Granate

To the nation of Praetonia:

This decision would be acceptable. We have already made accommodations for nations that cannot pay their entire contribution at once, so allowing private companies to cover part of the payment is entirely acceptable. Since we already planned to offer bids for the development aid to private companies, this would simply further increase the role of private sector in our organization and is perfectly consistent with the COMECON's commitment to free trade.

In regard to the strategic weapons clause, we can discuss this issue at the first meeting of the COMECON tomorrow. Further revisions to the community's charter will be made at this time, so it will be possible for your nation to propose this change in order to reform the charter at that time.

Thank you,
Sergei Antropov, interim chairman, COMECON

The Region Of Greater Honakon, including the nations of Honako, Little Honako and Honako Inc. (a thriving city of commerce) wish to join this alliance (as Greater Honakon, not as separate countries.)

Ecomonic Strength - GDP:

$3,879,685,974,812 (Honako) + $2,272,955,779,191 (Little Honako) + $3,340,904,334,336 (Honako Inc.)

Our GDP Per Capita is low though, likely averaged at around $10,000.

Military Strength:

Honako operates 3% of it's 567,000,000 into the military, where they are well trained and equipped, whereas Little Honako has 2% 337,000,000 in the armed forces, mostly volunteers and with little training, and Honako Inc. has a small military, around 0.5% of it's population of 193,000,000 in the military - in peace or war (Total Population: 1.097 billion).

Our reasons for joining this alliance is due to our economic struggles after a costly war, and also to be involved in something that is endorsed by our friends in the UFAN.

OOC: Vetalia, I accidentally put my GDP instead of my defense budget in my TG I think; the percentage here is correct.

IC
We are pleased to accept your confidential invitation to this great alliance, and can say the following about our capabilities in its regard.

Economic Strength: $33,501,593,790,000
Major resources (natural resources as well as industrial capacity): Uranium, Lumber, some Oil, &c; plus major industries in Gambling Automotive Manufacturing, and Arms Manufacturing.
Military strength (total manpower, military expenditures): 9,770,000 at full mobilization (1% of Population, 13% of GDP).
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems (putting Vetalian missile silos in your nation for deterrent purposes): We are quite willing, as we require allied support despite our own military prowess demonstrated in several wars of late. Whatever number you deem fit will suffice.

Excellent. Vetalia will construct 75 L-21 ICBMs and 120 K-30 Saratov IRBMs and place them under the oversight of your nation.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/Mauvasia/coa_small.jpg
Official Government Communique
From: Mauvasia, Constitutional Commonwealth and Democratic Republic of; Department of State for Foreign Affairs
To: Chairman Sergei Antropov or whom it may concern, COMECON-SD
Encryption: Green

Dear Sir:

The Mauvasian government has expressed strong interest in this organisation. As you may or may not know, the Mauvasian economy is currently in a state of crisis and recession due to a stagnation of investment, increasing isolationism and apathy, and protectionist trade and business laws including high tax rates and tariffs. The result is unemployment, dissatisfaction, and an increasing portion of businesses moving overseas; and unfortunately at present Mauvasia cannot simply loosen regulations and expect results with the current political situation.

We understand that COMECON requires a majority vote in its council to accept new membership, and that you may be wondering what benefit Mauvasia might bring to this organisation. To be short, our economy is a potential powerhouse; while Mauvasia's GDP is approximately 172 trillion Universal Standard Dollars, before the recent crisis this amount was over 220 trillion; and with greater foreign investment and economic aid it could rise well beyond that. Mauvasian land includes many natural resources; tin, copper, bauxite, iron, uranium, aluminum, magnesium, and silicon are in abundance, with lesser deposits of crude oil, natural gas, gold, and tungsten, especially in the colonies. Mauvasia's primary industrial capability is in sectors such as biotech, research, and communications; additionally, there are fair sized shipping and hydroelectric production industries, although as mentioned industrial capacity is reduced by the recession.

In terms of military strength Mauvasia is comparatively weak. While an adequate amount is spent on the military -- approximately five per cent of the GNP -- it has not been used in decades; equipment is old and outdated, the various armies and navies are fractured, with little co-operation between the members of the command staff; nonetheless, we do not believe it an issue, as Mauvasia herself has never been attacked and does not seek to establish military supremacy. For this reason, we would object to the placement of Vetalian weaponry -- especially nuclear weaponry, use of which is banned by Mauvasian law -- within Mauvasian territory.

We anxiously await COMECON's decision on our application.

Thank you,

[signed]
Andrew Marks
Chairman, Department of State

[signed]
Jean-Marie Iancourt
Chief of Staff, Jacobi Administration

Sign me up

The nation of Mauvasia has been placed before the COMECON to see if its application will pass. We will telegram you with the community's decision as soon as possible.

Catholic Kingdom of Droskianishk

Economic Strength:60,752,575,513,161.45(GDP) 48,469,664,988,547.77(Net Product)
Major Resources: Arms Manufactoring, Uranium mining, Information technology (high industry, high tech science, some resources)
Military Strength: 75,505,720 (3% pop full mobilization) (Full pop 2,516,857,356)
Willingness for Vetalia missile silo's etc.: Only by request (Only if absolutely necessary)

I would like to join this alliance, along with the aid of mine, wagdog said it would be a great allliance to join, my alliance is in protecting nations.

I would like to join this alliance, along with the aid of mine, wagdog said it would be a great allliance to join, my alliance is in protecting nations.

Guess who else is already in this alliance.

Granate,your none of my concern.

North Calaveras, your application to join has been noted and we'll vote on admitting you at our next meeting.

thank you vetalia.

If anyone needs armament visit my storefront,50%off on large orders

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=527429

Thank you very much

Leocardia will donate 450,000 COMECON-SD Peacekeeping soldiers, under the unit named Peace Giver.

Why should i care that you are ignoring me?Werent you supposed to be participating in the Oil of Angola thread?

The Princiaplity of Siriusa

Approximate economic strength: $5,401,149,809,931.14
Major resources: Arms Manufacturing, Uranium mining, Book Publishing
Military strength: 5,792,500 (1.75% of population), our budget is roughly 663 Billion USD
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: We are willing. Vetalian leadership is honest and trustworthy, we do not have any large reservations against this proposition.

OOC: You picked the right organisation then - we're all particularly friendly folks to those that want to learn. Anyhoo, welcome to NationStates and II, and here's to you enjoying yourself. If you haven't already, I suggest reading the stickies at the top of II, and having a look at some RP threads to get a look-see at RPing styles and suchlike - good etiquette here will help you in the future. Ask any player what happened to "FreeAngola" as an example of what not to do.

I am not going to be a big RP i just wanted to start a Private Military Company and start providing my services to other nations and i´m going to need some help with that too

It'd be better to take this to a conversation through Telegrams or IM, as this isn't really the place. My MSN, I'll TG you.

Calizorinstan would like to join this alliance, since it's a nation that's quite friendly towards Vetalia.

I kind of have a feeling that GreaterBritian is the same person as FreeAngola. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I kind of have a feeling that GreaterBritian is the same person as FreeAngola. Correct me if I'm wrong.

FreeAngola got DEATed, so you could always request an IP check if you're not sure...

I kind of have a feeling that GreaterBritian is the same person as FreeAngola. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Seems to me like he is.

Seems to me like he is.

I'm sorry, GreaterBritian, for accusing you without evidence.

Though, his typing and GreaterBritian's are very much alike.

I'm sorry, GreaterBritian, for accusing you without evidence.

Though, his typing and GreaterBritian's are very much alike.

OOC: That what was I thought to, and his mention of a security company, since Free was trying to start one up earlier.

But if it isn't him, it isn't him. Sorry for the accusation.

OOC: That what was I thought to, and his mention of a security company, since Free was trying to start one up earlier.

But if it isn't him, it isn't him. Sorry for the accusation.

TG check

Can I join this allaince?

OCC: GREAL, go to the forums

The Princiaplity of Siriusa

Approximate economic strength: $5,401,149,809,931.14
Major resources: Arms Manufacturing, Uranium mining, Book Publishing
Military strength: 5,792,500 (1.75% of population), our budget is roughly 663 Billion USD
Willingness to deploy Vetalian strategic missiles and defense systems: We are willing. Vetalian leadership is honest and trustworthy, we do not have any large reservations against this proposition.

OOC: I don't mean to be an impatient pest, but I kinda would like to know if I'm accepted or not.

OOC: Siriusa, I'll be admitting you once I sort out my war with TPF. I've noted everything going on in this thread so far.

OOC: Siriusa, I'll be admitting you once I sort out my war with TPF. I've noted everything going on in this thread so far.

OOC: Oh, alrighty then. Sorry, I didn't realize that. Thanks.

OOC: Oh, alrighty then. Sorry, I didn't realize that. Thanks.

OOC: No problem. The organization has been in a mess since the whole Hatarian thing, and I've got a lot of rebuilding to do.

To the Nation of New Manth:

Your request to join the COMECON has been accepted.

<snip>

As one of our intermediately developed economies, your nation qualifies for a small amount of financial backing for major projects.

Remember this? We are undertaking a number of major projects, and the aforementioned financial backing would help. We don't ask for a huge amount - 100 billion or so will do nicely.

Though we know this is not technically required for economic aid, we will be more than willing to repay it in the future.

OOC: So this alliance isn't dead? Yay!

Nope. Not dead. Still living, but on ventilation at the moment.

Say, would I get assistance if I went to war against a nation as part of another pact with a nation? This is assuming the nation I go to war with makes the first move.

Nope. Not dead. Still living, but on ventilation at the moment.

Say, would I get assistance if I went to war against a nation as part of another pact with a nation? This is assuming the nation I go to war with makes the first move.

OOC: Well, I'm not the final voice, but I say no. That is why this alliance got drug into deep shit in the first place. Because numerous members were UFAN/DC members and because of pact had to help Hataria, and wanted COMECON to help. To prevent that from happening again, I say no, unless they actually attack your nation's homeland.

OOC: It's not dead, more of just on the back warmer. It's too unwieldly to use as an active alliance, so right now it's more of a "if you need help, TG me, Wagdog, or another member to ask for it" than anything formal.

OOC: Vetalia just to let you know in case Wagdog didn't. Wag is away for the week so im keep an eye on things.

OOC: Yeah, he mentioned he'd be gone from the 30th to the 7th. If anything important goes down, Vet, just TG me and everyone else to keep us up to speed.

Nope. Not dead. Still living, but on ventilation at the moment.

Say, would I get assistance if I went to war against a nation as part of another pact with a nation? This is assuming the nation I go to war with makes the first move.

Depends who you are going to war with, I guess. If the enemy makes the first move against you, though, I could maybe give assistance.

I need to get my RL situation straightened out a bit though, been busy of late working a second job. Things are starting to settle in though.

As for the alliance being unwieldy, maybe part of that is that we never got much of a command structure in place? I remember talking about councils and vice chairmen and what not...

TO: COMECON-SD
FROM: Ministry of State, Commonwealth of the Crystal Mountains

RE: COMECON-SD membership
----------------------------------------------------

We agree in principal with the goals and direction of your alliance.

Unfortunately, our Constitution forbids the construction, use or, stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction anywhere on Commonwealth soil.

Rather than populating your roster with small nations, you may record our Commonwealth as a friendly neighbor and expect us to act as such at all times.

With respects,

Richard James, CCM Senior Minister

OOC: That was the main problem. Since I made the mistake of starting it while still in college, I didn't devote enough attention to constructing a true command structure. The result of that was that the alliance was unwieldly and incapable of really doing anything.

I may consider transferring control to someone better capable of managing it if it means getting the alliance off the ground.

OOC: Well, I'm not the final voice, but I say no. That is why this alliance got drug into deep shit in the first place. Because numerous members were UFAN/DC members and because of pact had to help Hataria, and wanted COMECON to help. To prevent that from happening again, I say no, unless they actually attack your nation's homeland.

OOC: Meh, that seems fair enough. Don't really want to have to fight him because of his $51 trillion defence budget, but hey, if he makes the move...