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Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 02:29
EARTH 2027

In the first years of the 21st century the world was ravaged by nuclear warfare. For no better reason than mutual contempt, hundreds of bombs were dropped on industrial centres, chieftly in the Americas and Asia. This Third World War left most of Earth barren and uninhabitable. Now only Europe stands as the last bastion of human civilization. Its land has been divided into a multitude of states, each holding nothing but disdain for another. Their xenophobic nature is due partly because of the immense influx of immigrants coming from all over the world, and partly because of the strong and omnipresent sense of militarism.

The world of today is a bare, hungry and dilapidated place. Resources are generally invested in the military, and trading between nation is rare. As a whole, the world is more primitive now than it was sixty years ago. Certain areas have advanced, and various fields of warfare have been developed, but most technological researches have stopped. Indeed, the ravages of the atomic war have never been repaired. Cities do not ressemble the huge metropolis of the late 20st century. They are mostly ruins, constantly bombed by other nations, and squatted by the poors and criminals. What little is left of civil life is found mostly in rural areas. There, huge underground complexes are dug to housed the most fortunates. Though amidst all of this savagery, a few states seek to reclaim their lost ground. They have turned their army agaisnt the many groups of anarchists, now ubiquitous in today's world. Their efforts are vain, however. Tensions are rising, and because of the millions of immigrants coming in each day, the search for more land masses has become a priority. And in a world where only but Europe is habitable, war is imminent.

HISTORY

Ever since the discovery of the atomic bomb, nuclear warfare on a global scale became an imminent thing. Since the dawn of civilization, war has always been part of human society. The end of the Cold War and the emergence of the United States as the sole super power only delayed the inevitable. Such a vast arsenal had to be put into use one way or another.

In the nineteen's, the rapid progression of global capitalism compelled the People's Republic of China to enlarge its sphere of influence. They first invaded Tibet, followed by Taiwain several weeks later. Their growing military strength threatened even Japan. Eager to help their Japanese Ally and desirous to assume full control of the world's economy, the United States declared war soon afterwards.

China's gargantuan army is one of the reason the United States came to atomic war. They knew that an invasion of Chinese mainland would result in miiions of casualties and no decisive victory in the end. Thus they began a defensive war, building their armament little by little lest the other should act first. However, this relative "peace" came to an end soon afterwards. It happened on the Fourth of October 1995. Through misinformation, The U.S Navy stationed around the Japanese coast opened fire on Chinese Ship. China replied by bombing Los Angeles with long-ranged bombers. More powerful missiles and bombs were later use, until it all escalated in a Nuclear War. The entire thing could have lasted a few days. Hundreds of missiles were launched simultaneously, each were assigned to a precise a target; cities usually. Millions of lives ended in a flash.

Europe neither took side nor action. It stood powerless as it watched in horror America and Asia become but a waste. At first, help was given. Both sides received plenty of aid, but the intensity of the carnage was such that all attempts at recovery were vain. Soon, European Nations blamed another for this atrocity. The Western part of Europe was mainly in favor of the now destroyed United States, while the East sided with what little remained of the People's Republic of China.

War swept Europe in the first days following the new millennium. Knowing perfectly what fate had it stored for them, European nations did not come to an all-out atomic war. Only but a few bombs were dropped. They opted for mass infantry warfare. This Third World War was quite alike to the first World War. The proximity of European nation forced them to rely on mass infantry wave, and vast bombardement.

To be continued.

TECHNOLOGY:

As mentioned, technology has barely advanced. The only noticable improvement are concerning warfare or espionage. Though these breakthrough are rarely seen due to lack of resource. New guns and tanks are produced, but only few. Most weapon and armored vehicle seen on today's battlefields date back from twenty to forty years ago. Nuclear Warheads are part of every nation's armament but are never use. Of course, no treaties of any kind have been signed. But through tacit consent, nations have agreed to end atomic warfare for the sole reason of preserving what little power they have left, knowing perfectly that a fifth nuclear war would surely result in the annihilation of the human race.

WEALTH:

Life in Today's World parallels one in a besieged castle. Wealth can be determine by only but a piece of horseflesh. Most currencies have disappeared. Countries rely on nationalism to fill their army and industries, and provide food and shelter in exchange for work or military service. Little things such as pots and warm clothes are now extremely valuable and often traded for services. Weapons can also be seen in today's market, but their omnipresent have render them cheap. Indeed, an assault rifle would be easier to obtain than a box of chocolate. This is due mostly by the massive weapon production of the early 21 century. Murders, robbery etc, are now rampant, and only kept in check by the many but disorganized paramilitary organizations and military.

IMMIGRATION:

Nuclear warfare has left most of the world uninhabitable. Save for Europe, there is no more land from which the human race may flourish and grow. This has compelled the surviving population of Asia, Africa and the Middle East to seek shelter within the prevailing states. These immigrants were not welcomed. Some were sent out in force labor camps, others were shot on sight. Although the government officials wont openly admit it, but genocidal acts are now a common thing. They are not only carried to preserve food and such, but by xenophobic contempt. Only but a few rebellious organizations try to prevent these acts. They are led by immigrant themselves, and are locked in endless conflict agaisnt European Nations.





RULES AND GUIDELINES

This is your traditional "1984, ravaged world etc" nationstate rpg. In order to join, you need to make a small factbook for your nation and choose one country of Europe. These will be fictional countries. You cannot call an area, say England or Russia. You have to make everything up.

Claims will be made on this map. The map posted here will be the official map. No other map may be used.

http://i2.tinypic.com/6f7bhgn.png

The number of claims will be determined by the time of your joining.

First 3 Members: 10 Provinces.
4 to 7: 7 Provinces.
7 to 10: 4 Provinces
10 to 14: 2 Provinces
The rest: 1 Provinces.

PROVINCES

There is 129 provinces in total. They will each have specific advantages and disadvantages depending on the region they are. They are Eastern Provinces, Western Provinces, Northern and Southern Provinces. They will be divided thus:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y52/Darth_Sin/PROVINCES.png

WESTERN PROVINCES

Population: 12 Million Each Province.

+ Population.
+ Infrastructure.
+ Economy.
+ Technology.

- Natural Resources.
- Oil.
- Agriculture.

EASTERN PROVINCES

7 Million Each Province.

+ Natural Resources.
+ Oil.
+ Agriculture.
+ Nationalism. (Add 100 000 soldiers to your military).

- Population.
- Infrastructure.
- Economy.

SOUTHERN PROVINCES

9 Million Per Province.

-+ Population.
-+ Economy.
-+ Infrastructure.
-+ Natural Resources

+ Agriculture.
- Oil.

NORTHERN PROVINCES

5 Million Per Province.

+ Infrastructure.
+ Oil.
+ Natural Resource.
+ Navy.

- Technology.
- Agriculture.

ALTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM THAT WESTERN PROVINCES HAVE AN ADVANTAGE , THEIRS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL COMPARED TO OTHERS. FOR EXEMPLE, WESTERN PROVINCES ARE MORE TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED, BUT IT IS ONLY BY LITTE. THEIR ARMY MIGHT USE A FAMAS OR AN HECKLER AND KOCH G36 COMPARED TO AK-47es AND WHATNOT.

Rules are as follow:

1) Wankers will be ejected.
2) Inactive nations will be ejected.
3) Be Realistic.
4) Everything your nation aquires must be rped. Except for the obvious, of course.
5) Nations will only be able to use nuclear warheads with my consent.
6) Have fun.

People who start off with a small number of provinces will be able to progress. If a large inactive nation gets kicked off, you might be the one who gets his claims, and therefore his population. Active nations and Good roleplayers will be rewarded. At any given time will I be able to add a large number of province or population to a nation, if you are worthy. So remember, BE ACTIVE, and write GOOD POSTS, and you'll get plenty of stuff.

YOUR FACTBOOK

Factbook must be written in this fashion:

Formal Name:
Type of Government:
Head of State:
Head of Government:
Population:
Important Cities:

History: Write a few paragraphs. A single one will be considered bare minimun.


Current Standings: Same as above.


Military: Your military will usually consit of 10% of your total population. Its strength is determined by the number of provinces you have. The more of them you have, the more advance your armament gets. You will also be able to have more tanks and aircrafts. Though tanks or armored vehicles might be somehow common, aircrafts (especially jets) and battleships should remain rare.

Paramilitary: Every nation is require to have at least ONE paramilitary organization. They will be under your direct control, but I can take control over them when I choose to. If your nation goes into war or is in a rough state, and I see that you are handling things poorly, I may have them try to topple your regime (this will NOT happen often) ONLY THEN WILL I BE ABLE TO ASSUME CONTROL OF IT. This is to add a sense of chaos and depravity into the game. Everything else regarding your Paramilitary organization will of course be determine by you.
Candistan
07-05-2007, 02:44
I think I would be interested...but what exactly do I claim?
Firehelper
07-05-2007, 02:45
Former Switzerland Now known as the Empire of Bern (or whats left of it)
Post war History:
Many people in switzerland hid in the tunnels created during world war two. Many of its military units were also moved there. However with the diminishing of oil supplies people are starting to turn to hand arms and solar power
Economy: Being a formally neutral nation Switzerland only suffered several nukes and the majority of its infrastructure and industry remain intact. However due to a lack of power and gas people gather around farming communities instead of the former cities as the infrastructure is beginning to be reclaimed by the plants.
Military: most men own a gun and know how to use it
Foreign relations: Secluded by the mountains since the EMP there has been no contact with the outside world.
rebels: less than most countries though still some acts are commited.
Nuclear Status: Several hidden unfinished bombs were completed after the apocalypse and are going to be used as a laser resort weapon
Defensive status: Many WW2 forts are being brought back to service and quipped with whatever artillery there is and hopefully will deter any invader
Population: 5,000,000-6,000,000
Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 02:52
I think I would be interested...but what exactly do I claim?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._blank_map.png

You claim a single territory on this map.
Candistan
07-05-2007, 02:54
The map didn't work.
Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 02:59
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/Europe_blank_map.png/655px-Europe_blank_map.png
Firehelper
07-05-2007, 03:09
Hope my gfactbook is ok ((I'm off to bed))
Canland
07-05-2007, 03:09
I'd like to make a claim to this RP.

I'll make a fact book once more info has been released,right now I dont have enough information about the RP to make a good fact book.

Republic of Free Madrid


http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=655pxeuropeblankmap2uf5.png
Candistan
07-05-2007, 03:24
I just want to claim All of Ireland under the name of the Free Celtic Republic.

I will also put up a factbook once more info is released.
Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 03:26
I'll write more information on the Roleplay tomorrow. I'm going to sleep now.
Carloginias
07-05-2007, 03:37
We'll need to have a set claim form, and an accurate account of populations, but from Firehelper's assumption of populations, we just divide the regular populations in half? I want to claim the former nation of Germany, and it will be united under the Empire of Carloginian States
Tolvan
07-05-2007, 03:58
I'd be interested in taking over France.

I'll get a factbook up a little later.
Canland
07-05-2007, 04:22
what is the name of your nation?
Candistan
07-05-2007, 04:30
May I change my claim to just Great Britain? The name would be the Free British Republic.

Name: Free British Republic
Postwar History: After the War, the new British Gov't, under Chancellor Charles Owen, began to construct massive strongholds in Edinburgh and London. Due to its island geography, it has been able to stem the influx of immigrants down to nearly zero. The countryside is filled with anarchist rebels, and all contact between cities is done utilizing armored roadways.
Population: 34,500,000
Military: The military took control of the gov't after the war, therefore spending on it is high. Most are highly trained with several reserve brigades in case of an emergency.
Canland
07-05-2007, 04:39
I guess I can change your claim.

http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=655pxeuropeblankmap2bz2.png
Marxikhan
07-05-2007, 04:45
I'll take Greece and I'll be Sparten Federation...ill post fact book in a bit

Pop. 10,000,000

Economy: Complete distrust of the weak that live out side of Sparta, trade is limited. A completly self-dependant state focuses extra resources on Military.

Military: Though there standing army is small, every single member of the nation bears arms. Each are equipted and ready for war.

Nuke: very little war heads exists from the pre-war days. The government puts alot of money into discovering how to create more

Government: a single party facist state, the people enjoy a few civil freedoms

Culture: the people of the Federation demand strenth and look down upon the weak. They value power and glory more than anything else in the world
Firehelper
07-05-2007, 12:10
Well you really can't just divide the nations in half. I picked Switzerland because of its lack of major cities and neutrality. Possibly the only major cities to be nukes were geneva (for its international institutions) and bern( the capital). Also being a neutral nation they might not have been nuked at all. However, the resulting chaos of the nuking of many major cities (of which the surrounding ocuntries have many) would cause an economic colapse, famine, lack of power, etc. killing many people. In reality the popultion lost should be 1/4 but for a country like the UK, of which most of its popultion lives in southern england, might lose 1/2-3/4ths witht he majority of those surviving in scotland.
Also you have to take natural resources into account. You can't nuke every city, base, road, town, house, etc. so all nations will have the majority of their tanks and other stuff like that. However, most European countries would have no oil. If someone was ukrane and they could refine oil they could have the only armoured force in the continent (not that it could get into my mountains)

please consider this while making a fact book (time to change my population to 3/4)
Canland
07-05-2007, 12:40
Updated map

http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=655pxeuropeblankmap2qc6.png
Kansiov
07-05-2007, 12:55
Talking Russia

Name: Kansiov
Offical name: Republic of the Kansiovian Federation
Population: 58,000,000
Location: (2007 Present day Western Russia)
Capital: St. Petersburg

Military Size: 260,000
GNP per Capitalia: $1,006
GDP Spending (in %)
-Military 6%
-Education 7%
-Health 4%

Current President: Alexi Glorgov
Chief of Army: Marshal S. Popov
Minister of Internal Affiars: Heloski Belruski
Minister of Intellegence: Klehev Bolika

--------more in factbook (coming soon)--------
Marxikhan
07-05-2007, 22:23
bump
Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 22:29
All nations currently on the map have been accepted. Though some of them don't have factbooks yet. If you don't come up with one by Tuesday, I'll remove you from the RP.

I'm now going to add more information concerning the world, and how your nation should be. If you have questions, you can more easily contact me at muffinof_doom@hotmail.com
Marxikhan
07-05-2007, 22:31
Do i need much more for my factbook? And what is an example of what we are looking for?
Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 22:35
Do i need much more for my factbook? And what is an example of what we are looking for?

I'd suggest adding more, it's quite slim for a factbook. I'm making a template right now.
Marxikhan
07-05-2007, 22:39
alright thanks, not sure how much is needed in a world were economy dosn't play a major role(or at least it wont for me, the xenophobic nation)
Joethesandwich
07-05-2007, 22:46
can i take italy?

ill put up a factbook once the template is done
[NS]Corbournne
07-05-2007, 22:47
I'd like to claim what was once Poland.

I'll put up a factbook once there's a template.
Turbikistan
07-05-2007, 23:10
Added more information.

Yes you can both have those areas, but a factbook is needed.


ALL OF YOUR CLAIMS ARE SUPERFICIAL AS OF THIS MOMENT. I AM IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A MORE FITTING MAP FOR THE ROLEPLAY, WITH PROVINCES BEING CLAIMABLE INSTEAD OF COUNTRIES. THIS WILL LEAVE MORE ROOM FOR CREATIVITY AND OTHER PLAYERS. THOUGH THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE CLAIMED A NATION, WILL HAVE FIRST DIBS FOR THE NEW MAP AND WILL BE ABLE TO CLAIM PROVINCES CORRESPONDING TO THE SAID NATION.

I'm reserving the area near Austria btw.
Marxikhan
07-05-2007, 23:56
How big are these Provinices? I still want the major greece area!
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 00:37
Added the new map, as well as rules etc.

Order of Members:

First 3 Members: 10 Provinces.
4 to 7: 7 Provinces.
7 to 10: 4 Provinces
10 to 14: 2 Provinces
The rest: 1 Provinces.

1) Candistan: 10 Provinces.
2) Fire Helper: 10 Provinces.
3) Canland: 10 Provinces
4) Carloginias: 7 Provinces
5) Tolvan: 7 Provinces.
6) Marxikhan: 7 Provinces
7) Kasiov: 7 Provinces.
8) Joethesandwich: 4 provinces
9) NS Corbournne: 4 Provinces
Canland
08-05-2007, 00:49
I updated the map to include my claims

http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brokenearthqv9.jpg
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 00:57
i get how many provinces? I would like sweeden, if its not taken. If i cantake it, i will post its information in about 1 hour and 30 minutes when i return.
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 01:05
i get how many provinces? I would like sweeden, if its not taken. If i cantake it, i will post its information in about 1 hour and 30 minutes when i return.

You'd get 4 provinces. Read the first page.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 01:07
You'd get 4 provinces. Read the first page.

I know, but i dint know what number i was. Well i would like to claim the 4 southernmost provinces in Sweeden and Norway, please.
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 01:22
Anyhow my finalized claim is Greece, Albania, Bulgaria, Northern/European Part of Turkey, Western Turkey, Province inbetween Albania and Bulgaria, Sicily
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 01:51
ahem...ello?


/bump
[NS]Corbournne
08-05-2007, 01:54
Ok, I don't have a good picture program, so I kinda just colored in what I want.

Formal Name: The Union of Northwestern France, Belgium, and the Netherlands
Type of Government: Parliamentary Democracy
Head of State: President Thierry Montalet
Head of Government: Prime Minister Francois Capugue
Population: 48,000,000
Important Cities: Paris, Calais, Brussles, Amsterdam

History: Though Europe was spared more than the Americas and Asia in the apoctalyptic nuclear conflict, it still did not emerge unscathed. In the aftermath of the chaos, all formal government was dissolved, and people began to form their own "countries." One such as this was the UNWFBN.

They decided to adopt governmental policies like their own formal nation, thus the creation of a Parliamentary Democracy, the president elect, Thierry Montalet, was French, and the Prime Minister, Francois Capugue, Belgian. The military is comprised of fairly modern weaponary, due to the high standard of the British and French armed forces. The Belgian national police force was adopted, and includes both the Netherlands' and the French's.


Current Standings: The nation is currently in a state of organized chaos, and the leaders sometimes struggle to maintain order.


Military: 4,800,000

Paramilitary: Rijkswacht- The Belgian national military police force has now been expanded to encompass the Dutch Koninklijke Marechaussee and the French Gendarmie Nationale.
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 01:55
I'm doing an homework right now.

And by the way, although your claims may appear on the map, they are not official until you've posted a factbook and linked it in this thread.
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 01:58
I'm doing an homework right now.

And by the way, although your claims may appear on the map, they are not official until you've posted a factbook and linked it in this thread.

Can we get an outline what a factbook should be in this RP? and is it ok if i get this in tommarrow please?
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 02:01
Can we get an outline what a factbook should be in this RP? and is it ok if i get this in tommarrow please?


Oh, yeah, two sec. I'll write a template...
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 02:02
thanks man :D
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 02:22
Done, I'm going to add a few more details about the world soon.
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 02:27
Kool, but what do you mean by current state?
Carloginias
08-05-2007, 02:31
Not sure if I have any dibbing priority above the one who claimed some of the land I want, but incase he dosen't

Main British Isle(4) and Northern France (3) In case those are taken:

Italy(5) Swiss(1) Marsellie area (1)

With any of those I'll have 210,000,000 million people correct?
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 02:34
Kool, but what do you mean by current state?

Current Standings.

It's where you talk about the current happenings within your country such as your stance on various countries or how your economy is going. It's mainly going to be filled up as we go, but you should still be able to put a few things in there.
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 02:38
Carloginias, you asked to have German Provinces. None but those part of the Republic of Austria-Hungary have been taken.
Carloginias
08-05-2007, 02:47
I decided to change my claim since I wasen't going to get all of Germany. Unless you want me in Germany (Which I will do infact:Those two bordering your NW border, the one in the middle, Baltic area, Area under Denmark area under that area, and Germany's smallest area.)

Want to set up diplomatic relations?
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 02:48
I decided to change my claim since I wasen't going to get all of Germany. Unless you want me in Germany (Which I will do infact:Those two bordering your NW border, the one in the middle, Baltic area, Area under Denmark area under that area, and Germany's smallest area.)

Want to set up diplomatic relations?

Yes, but first you'd have to post a factbook so that I can add you.
[NS]Corbournne
08-05-2007, 02:57
Alright, well the beginning of my factbook were posted on my last page. It's probably all I'll get done tonight, but it's a start.
No Taxes
08-05-2007, 03:19
I'll take the two areas of Morocco and Algeria (assuming those are open). I should have a factbook up in a little while.
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 03:20
Corbournne;12622149']Alright, well the beginning of my factbook were posted on my last page. It's probably all I'll get done tonight, but it's a start.

Your factbook is fine. I'll add it to the official map tomorrow.

Yes No Taxes, those areas are open. I'm going to sleep now.
Firehelper
08-05-2007, 03:30
um.... I wated switzerland ((I thought the pevious holdiers get dibs on it) )


If possilbe I want the rando blue sqaures (if any are taken tell me and ill edit my coice
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4092/brokenearthqv9gf1.jpg

Factbook:
Confederacy of Bern
Im going to bed... later after finalised
Carloginias
08-05-2007, 03:41
Formal Name: Carloginian States of Central Europe
Type of Government: Republic/leaning on dictatorship
Head of State: Fredrick Honnesburg
Head of Government: Ilansti Merkev
Population: 210,000,000
Important Cities: Berlin (Carloginias City), Dresden, Hamburg.

History: War threatened the horizons of the world. A carloginian radical forsaw what would happen to the world with the build-up of Nuclear weapons, and knew that he would have to do what he must in order to preserve the military and the use of the precious recource known as oil. Upon the arise of the predicted Nuclear war the Carloginians, then numbering a small number went into hiding and avoided the brunt of it. When the Carloginians emerged from hiding they found Europe about to engage into war and anarchy.


Current Standings: The current government tasks are set in this order: Defence, commerce, law and order.


Military: 21,000,000 (Thats 10%)

18,000,000 army

2,500,000 Navy

500,000 Airforce. (Will probably expand, not sure our tech limits.. I would rather see them rped out rather then the first page.


Paramilitary: 2 Parliaments

House of Carlogins: Makes laws and governs the nation's chief affairs
House of Gallics: Governs social affairs within the nation.

((This will be updated some as well.))
Candistan
08-05-2007, 04:47
What the hell! I claimed The British Isles a long time ago! Anyways, is it possible for me to trade in my other six provinces for extra population? I really didn't want more than GB.
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 05:18
hey im almost done with fact book, are he going with modern day pop.?
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 05:48
Spartan Federation Fact book

Formal Name: Spartan Federation
Type of Government: Military Coup with communist views on economy
Head of State: General Ares, holds most of the government power, is commander and chief of Military Operations and is seen by the people as the true figure head
Head of Government: President Tyrannus
Population: 140,000,000
Important Cities: Sparta, Fleet Anchorage, Falcon Point, Fort Nero

History: The Spartan Federation was once a paramilitary group that was in modern day Greece. The former government was a failing republic in witch no power was given to the people. As the federation began to gain more support they overthrew the government. The Spartan Federation was born. The Federation grew as it absorbed near by Balkan states. The country went threw a era of peace for a year before Gen. Ares angered local Islamic paramilitary occupying Modern Day Turkey. Sparta waged war with the Nation and ended up with two new regions under its belt. The Muslim-Spartan war gave the growing nation a since of patriotism, one that is unmatched in the world, despite the fact that the people have no political or economic freedoms and little civil freedoms. In the last few months the Federation made another land grab this time the Unorganized territory of Sicily. Anarchy reigned in this region, so when Lt. Serra declared her self governor of island, the province quickly became part of the Federation.


Government: The government of Sparta, is a simple one. Almost all power is in General Ares. The little remain power is put in the hand of the President. The President does most of the work and is the political leader of the country, acting as the Sec. Of State, Vice President and head of economics. The nations economic situation is monitored by military. People work on a variety of projects a day, from manufacturing to farming to building. Wealth and food is distributed through local “Vaults”. Each city of county has its own vault. In times of peace the military brings supplies from the vault to the people.

Current Standings: The nation is begging to emerge as a new economic power house. Though it remains small on the international scale, it strives to be self-sufficient. The Spartans to not approve of relying on others. Having cut relations with the world the President urges General Ares to seek alliances, though Ares idea of reaching out to the world is conquest.

Military: With a man(and woman)power of 14,000,000, the Spartan Federation has a force to be reckoned with. An assortment of tanks, and artillery are numerous, while the navy and air force is a bit lacking. There is still a good sized fleet under the federation compared to other nations, but its army is the core of the group. In times of peace the military works on anti-military and anti-immigration issues as well as overseeing the nations economy.

11,400,500 Army
3,500,000 Navy
500 Airforce



Paramilitary: Being a semi-communist nation, the anti-group is the black market paramilitary group the Blood Traders. The Blood Traders are in numerous nations thought the region. In the Federation they trade what little goods people have for tasks or other items. For example ,when food is needed, they give the region food, taking the excess manpower, or ammo with them. At first the Federation used the Blood Traders to do their job for them, but soon the people stopped relying on the government. Now days the government try’s to track down traders before they get a foothold in the region. Much to the dismay of the Federation the Blood Traders have already branched out into nearby provinces, bringing more goods into the region.
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 05:59
so...does that work?
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 07:13
http://img107.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brokenearthqv9mo1.jpg

May Claims (in orange)
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 07:21
I protest that the Population is too high, the World has just recovered from World War 3 and Greece does not have 140 Million its just plain stupid.
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 09:10
My Factbook (not yet completed)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526230
Lerasia
08-05-2007, 11:17
Hey I would Love to get in on this

let me know if anything is wrong ok
I would like to clain Estonia, Lativia and Lithuania, the three baltic provinces. These are 3 provences

Formal Name: Union of Baltic Republics
Type of Government: Military Junta, under control of the head generals
Head of State: the Military Junta rule the nation jointly
Head of Government: Head General Nurmo
Population: 21
Important Cities:Tallin (Estonian Republic) Vinius (Lithuania Republic), Riga (Latvia Republic)

History: at the turn of the new Mellenium the three baltic republics were sperate independent nations. They were continually bullied and pressured to sign lopsided treaties with russia, then the nuclear war happened. In all the chaos the three baltic states found themsleves on different sides. Lithuania was the most heavily bombed and Lativia took advantage by invading it and annexing it. Next Estonia easily collapesed under the preassure of its own people. Lativia again moved in the annexed that. But the nuclear war was not over. The New Union of Baltic Republics was under a united Coalition war cabinet. the UBR moved into russia but then was repelled and then heavily bombed again.

The UBR then isolated itself and cut itself off from the world. after 3 years still under a coalition war government the Military then staged a bloody coup in the Capital city of Riga. a group of about 20 Generals formed a Junta, Imposed martial law and killed all opponenets and imprisoned hundreds of dissidents. the Baltic Republic then sealed its borders completely with no one getting in or out. Its government then became very extremist, militaristic and Fanatical, propaganda existed everywhere and the military has a presence on everystreet corner. The people live in crowded shanty towns built from scrap and ruins and rubble from the destruction of the bombings. Famine and desiese is common due to the influx of refugees and the borders are becomming tightly sealed. Citizens are encouraged to report foriegners to the authorities, propaganda labels foriegners as Animals, devils and spies


Current Standings: The Union of Baltic Republics have over 950,000 soldiers in the army, The UBR air force was completely obliterated during the war and it is only now trying to rebuild new aircraft. But anti aircraf guns are in every city streets, Roas blocks are in eevrystreet cheacking civilian ID for foriegn spies. the UBR also has a weak Navy of only 2 old ships are not fit for war but were brought back in desperation. Our major cities are a pile of ruins, the citizens live in make shift shacks from what ever they can find, all buildings are just rubble adn ruins, bomb shelters are in every street and in the remains of skeleton buildings. The government has painted the 1950's as the paradise era and because of the extreme social conditioning and the governments portrayal of the 1950's the citizens wear 1950's style clothing, though becasue of the bombing and poverty they turn into dirty raggs. The current government live in an underground compound in Riga. Although the government clains there is no head of state and the Junta rule equally, General Nurmo is really pulling all the strings. He is the head of the government and so he packs the government with his political allies so no one ever disagrees with him.

I hope everything is ok, can i join?
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 12:13
What the hell! I claimed The British Isles a long time ago! Anyways, is it possible for me to trade in my other six provinces for extra population? I really didn't want more than GB.

You didn't post a factbook. People with factbooks have priority. And I'd rather not see you trading land for pop, it map will have less not be full if people started to do that.

And to the guy who said that the population is too high, it's not that unrealistic. The world has immigrated towards Europe. That's billions of people right there.

To the guy who posted before I did: You can only have two provinces. Now I'm going to school. Later.
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 12:18
Its me but i would like to say that many would have died in the Nuclear winter while travelling to Europe, Radio Active dust could have rained all over the world and it would be almost impossiable to travel to Europe in those conditions. We should stick with maybe 70 Million at most for the 10 states, the population increases as the game goes as the Nuclear winter clears and people are able to travel to Europe without having a high chance of dying.
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 12:22
500,000 Airforce
Thats abit over the top don't you think? I don't think the Goverment has the money to maintain such a large Airforce even when 70% of the GDP goes to Military.
Firehelper
08-05-2007, 12:53
We need a taken map

Federation of Bern
map (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4092/brokenearthqv9gf1.jpg) (provinces with blue)

Formal Name: Federation of the United Provinces of Central Europe
Type of Government: Fedral Democracy
Head of State: President (for life) Louis Aumount
Head of Government: President (for life) Louis Aumount
Political Subdivisions: Southern France, Switzerland, Southern Germany
Population: 30-40 million
Important Cities: Bordeaux, Marselle,St. Topez, Cannes, Vice, Freiburg, Bern, Geneva (of course all the cities have been nukes so whatever remains is a city)

History: The provinces of the Federation of the United Provinces of Central Europe, whose capital is in bern, is fairly short. It was founded in Bern by the surviving members of the swiss Government. Many of the swiss people were also saved by hiding in the tunnels created during world war two. As a result, much of switzerland, with the exception of its major cities, was protected. (also a result of its stance in the war) Soon people sent outside of the alps found a lawless land governend by nothing. Taking the initiative the swiss government "added" territory to its peaceful land and created a swiss "federation." Currently their army is classified and many tanks are used in emergany only purposes. Buildings are run by solar power and swiss factories are currently capible of production. The more targeted region of france however is still in the more basic processes of rebuilding with its main focus on food
1st Peacekeepers
08-05-2007, 14:44
This is joethesandwich


Can someone just post the factbook outline?

I Can't write my own (Don't know what to put and such) and i cant claim territories till i have one

will someone just do it?
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 14:46
hehe look at my factbook i usually do more than what is needed ;)
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526230

please dont post any comments
Kansiov
08-05-2007, 15:28
Ok i saw the new update, since Russian states can only house 10 million when started will they have a resource advantage? And the only place where Gas and oil come from the current map you provide us.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 20:13
Formal Name: Unified Provinces of Southern Scandanavia
Type of Government: Republic
Head of State: President, elected by the people
Head of Government: President Miller
Population: 80 Million
Important Cities: Oslo, Stockholm

History: After WW3, the 4 southernmost provinces of Scandanavia banded together for survival. These provinces focused less on the army, but rather on rebuilding the economy. Now, the Navy and Air Force are the two most funded military branches.

Current Standings: The UPSS has a 400,000 man army. The air force and navy, however, compensate for the poor army.

as promised. I get the 4 southernmost scandanavian provnces, correct?
Canland
08-05-2007, 20:20
My factbook:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12624644#post12624644
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 20:21
Formal Name: Unified Provinces of Southern Scandanavia
Type of Government: Republic
Head of State: President, elected by the people
Head of Government: President Miller
Population: 80 Million
Important Cities: Oslo, Stockholm

History: After WW3, the 4 southernmost provinces of Scandanavia banded together for survival. These provinces focused less on the army, but rather on rebuilding the economy. Now, the Navy and Air Force are the two most funded military branches.

Current Standings: The UPSS has a 400,000 man army. The air force and navy, however, compensate for the poor army.

as promised. I get the 4 southernmost scandanavian provnces, correct?

I will post a more in depth thread when i get home from school todey.
Candistan
08-05-2007, 20:51
You didn't post a factbook. People with factbooks have priority. And I'd rather not see you trading land for pop, it map will have less not be full if people started to do that.

And to the guy who said that the population is too high, it's not that unrealistic. The world has immigrated towards Europe. That's billions of people right there.

To the guy who posted before I did: You can only have two provinces. Now I'm going to school. Later.

I did post a factbook on the post that I said I was changing my claim to GB.
Firehelper
08-05-2007, 21:24
I belive that people should make up their own population ((I f I followed that pop thing I would have more people than there are in my enitre RL territory))
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 21:32
Okay guys, I'm going to change the population for the RP, so just hang on. I'm also in the process of updating the map right now with all the accepted faction.
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 22:33
New Map: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4pz2ji0

The Spartan Federation wasn't accepted because I have no idea where he wants his claims to be. I've never heard of Fort Nero and whatnot.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 22:38
New Map: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4pz2ji0

The Spartan Federation wasn't accepted because I have no idea where he wants his claims to be. I've never heard of Fort Nero and whatnot.

no offense, but you didnt add my claim

I claimed the 4 Southern Provinces of Scandanavia, 1 in Finland, 3 in Sweeden.
Turbikistan
08-05-2007, 22:40
no offense, but you didnt add my claim

I claimed the 4 Southern Provinces of Scandanavia, 1 in Finland, 3 in Sweeden.

Nevermind, let me add you.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 22:42
here was my claim- and i posted a breif factbook, a more extensive one is coming...

my claims are in green - my comp is bad for images...
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 22:43
Nevermind, let me add you.

ok, good. I claimed them on the 1st page, thats why i got 4 provinces...
Marxikhan
08-05-2007, 23:47
I protest that the Population is too high, the World has just recovered from World War 3 and Greece does not have 140 Million its just plain stupid.
I fallowed the rules on the first page for pop., And i dont just have Greece
Thats abit over the top don't you think? I don't think the Goverment has the money to maintain such a large Airforce even when 70% of the GDP goes to Military.
Some one above me had the smae thing, i;ll change it if i am told to by the Mod, not some random whiner
New Map: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4pz2ji0

The Spartan Federation wasn't accepted because I have no idea where he wants his claims to be. I've never heard of Fort Nero and whatnot.

My claims are on page 3, My painting programm wasn't working but i listed Greece, Bulgaria, Albania , Macedonia(sorry spelling), Sicily, And the Most Northern Part of Turkey and most western part of Turkey. And for the citys they are all just renamed, i didnt think that was wrong, but il change them if need be
Marxikhan
09-05-2007, 00:15
hey somone who understands my claim, can they please post a picture of what it is, my painting program is still acting up
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 00:25
i still have not been added to map...
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 00:43
my complete factbook-

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12625814

w00t! can i be on the map now??? Remember, 1 in norway, 3 in sweeden... 4 southernmost provinces of scandanavia...
Carloginias
09-05-2007, 00:44
Niether was I, and I posted my fact-book and country long before most people did.

On regards to my airforce, I don't have the planes currently to have much of an air-force. THey're mostly reserve pilots (Which I will distinguish in a bit)
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 00:51
ok, i updated the map with my claims added.

http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg

there 'tis...
Marxikhan
09-05-2007, 01:49
ok, i updated the map with my claims added.

http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w107/imdmill/?action=view&current=untitled.jpg

there 'tis...

Hey Kampfers, nice claim...could you do that really quickly with my claim



oh and /bump
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 01:50
Hey Kampfers, nice claim...could you do that really quickly with my claim



oh and /bump

ummm, mind reposting your claim?

thanks, the army shouldnt be much to worry about, letting me pwn all in AF and Navy...
Marxikhan
09-05-2007, 01:53
Greece, Bulgaria, Albania , Macedonia(sorry spelling), Sicily, And the Most Northern Part of Turkey and most western part of Turkey. Thanks ahead :D
Marckov
09-05-2007, 01:57
Formal Name:Neo-Roman Republic
Type of Government:Republic
Head of State:President elected by the Senate for life
Head of Government:President
Population:60 million
Important Cities:New Roma , Capua

History:The Neo-Rome Republic was founded shortly after the carnage of WW3 the first to come to power in the devasted city of Rome was the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church who provided refuge in the battered city. But the Church was stipped of power when Gem. Artemio Trentino took control of the governemnt. It took only 2 months before the various Italian factions took up arms against the general.

They assasinated Trentino and stormed the Vatican which was at the timthe proxy center of goverment. After quickly taking control they meged all factions into Neo-Rome agreeing that the leaders of the overthrow would become sentaters and alltogether elect a strong leader who could lead them, But who would also have to obey orders that a majority of the Senate approved.


Current Standings: All the various Italian factions have merged together and consolidated central power in Rome.


Military: The Roman army consists of professional soldiers formed into Legions
5 million

Paramilitary: The parmilitary are known as the Praetorian Guard who make oaths to protect thier country from external enemys or internal treachery

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5937/world3lf5.jpg ( map with claims ifts it to much just say something ill cut it down)
Marxikhan
09-05-2007, 01:59
Wait...isnt the paramilitary groups supposed to be anti-government(well yours anyway...)
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 02:01
Greece, Bulgaria, Albania , Macedonia(sorry spelling), Sicily, And the Most Northern Part of Turkey and most western part of Turkey. Thanks ahead :D

umm, no, sorry. my map editing thingy got screwed up
Marxikhan
09-05-2007, 02:10
sigh thats ok...can anyone else give it a try? Or when Turk comes back can he just approve the claim?
Turbikistan
09-05-2007, 02:32
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1950/world2wj1.jpg ( map with claims ifts it to much just say something ill cut it down)[/QUOTE]

You've claimed way too much land. You're like the twelft member. So it's 2 provinces now.

And I'm going to update the map with Sparta now...
Carloginias
09-05-2007, 02:36
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/1950/world2wj1.jpg ( map with claims ifts it to much just say something ill cut it down)

You've claimed way too much land. You're like the twelft member. So it's 2 provinces now.

And I'm going to update the map with Sparta now...[/QUOTE]



Is there any reason why I haven't been added to the map? I've created a fact-book and posted it. (Its on page 4 or maybe 5)
Turbikistan
09-05-2007, 02:38
I wasn't talking about you, Sparta, but the Italian guy. I might have misquoted, sorry for any confusion. I'm updating the map ATM.

And Carloginias, let me take a look.
Carloginias
09-05-2007, 02:39
Those two bordering your NW border, the one in the middle, Baltic area, Area under Denmark area under that area, and Germany's smallest area.)

A bit confusing, I don't know how else to explain.
Turbikistan
09-05-2007, 03:11
New map on first page.
Candistan
09-05-2007, 03:17
May I change my claim to just Great Britain? The name would be the Free British Republic.

Name: Free British Republic
Postwar History: After the War, the new British Gov't, under Chancellor Charles Owen, began to construct massive strongholds in Edinburgh and London. Due to its island geography, it has been able to stem the influx of immigrants down to nearly zero. The countryside is filled with anarchist rebels, and all contact between cities is done utilizing armored roadways.
Population: 34,500,000
Military: The military took control of the gov't after the war, therefore spending on it is high. Most are highly trained with several reserve brigades in case of an emergency.

I posted this factbook a while ago, before anyone else claimed any part of GB.
Carloginias
09-05-2007, 03:47
I also have the one under Denmark. The ones you put makes 6, not the 7 that I was entitled to, thnks.
Marckov
09-05-2007, 04:29
edited the post to claim only 2 territories
Marxikhan
09-05-2007, 06:06
This looks cooler and cooler every time i see it. Cant wait for it to get started
Kansiov
09-05-2007, 10:22
Just to point out Turbikistan, the United Baltic states has also clamied Estoina as well. Im doing this for him ;)
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 19:44
bumpage. we need more members! Plenty of land left!
Canland
09-05-2007, 20:34
I have re-made the map,I think that Turkbikistan had some peoples claims wrong,and the quality was pretty poor,so I improved the quality(greatly) and I also fixed a few claims that I thought were wrong.

http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brokenearthpp1.png

The file is rather large now however,and it will take longer to load the image.
Turbikistan
09-05-2007, 22:38
Added Guide for Provinces and Population. Tell me what you think of the advantage disadvantage thingy.
Carloginias
09-05-2007, 23:03
Much more balance, but I still haven't recieved the province under present-day Denmark. Not b****ing, just telling you all.
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 23:05
It was better how it was. It is a good idea, but it requires me to completely rewrite my factbook. Not just my population has to change, but my AF cant stay the same as you lowered my technology. I had a plan to hava a strong AF and Navy, but this only lets me have the Navy.
Carloginias
09-05-2007, 23:09
I plan to take to a strong air-force and army. If I was Britian, Italy, Spain, or France I'd focus on navy; but to the real point:

It wasen't better how it was for the following reasons

1. Europe dosen't have the neccessary farmlands in order to house populations in the billions.

2. Europe would return to the stoneage from lack of oil.. I still think it will in this forum. No one would of had the money to research an alternate source of energy aside from oil and natural gas.

3. WTF 20,000,000 + man armies? That is a little less then 1/3 of what was lost total in WWI.

4. I think this is obvious, but the old system was unrealistic.
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 23:16
I plan to take to a strong air-force and army. If I was Britian, Italy, Spain, or France I'd focus on navy; but to the real point:

It wasen't better how it was for the following reasons

1. Europe dosen't have the neccessary farmlands in order to house populations in the billions.

2. Europe would return to the stoneage from lack of oil.. I still think it will in this forum. No one would of had the money to research an alternate source of energy aside from oil and natural gas.

3. WTF 20,000,000 + man armies? That is a little less then 1/3 of what was lost total in WWI.

4. I think this is obvious, but the old system was unrealistic.

True. I will edit my population, but the military technology i have will stay the same.

Army from 50s-60s
AF from 70s-80s
Navy from 70s-80s

All fall within the range given of a 20-40 year setback.
Terre Nationale
09-05-2007, 23:33
Formal Name: Fascist State of Island
Type of Government: Fascist
Head of State: Furher Kamph Lien
Head of Government: Leading Premier Edin Walter
Population: Five Million
Important Cities: Rapshak, Capitol
Port Theodore, Major Trading Port
Fort Militia, Town consisted of all military service men and woman

History: Iceland was a... small nation, and slowly winning their hearts towards the Fascist ideal was Kamph Lien, a brilliant man, at least socially. His ideals, and more importantly, the wording of his ideals to the common man was... inspiring. Raping Iceland's population in ignorance.

Then, Kamph Lien ran for President of Iceland, and one a sweeping voctory, even the congress fell to his alliance, and so the Fascist State of Island was born, changing very little except the disintegration of the Iceland congress, and the speed of which decisions were made.

Current Standings: ??

Military:
50,000 Standing Troops
500 Challenger II's
80 MiG-29 "Fulcrums"
And assorted mix of artillery.

Paramilitary:-:
Independent Sectional Needs:-
ISD, was originally created to tell the government what a all the provinces individually need, this ended up into an incredibly articulate organization, that was a reservist unit of two thousand men in each province.

Oh, yes and here are my claims. (Everything spray painted black)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g20/Xavier_Solis/523ez34-1.jpg
Kampfers
09-05-2007, 23:41
ok, my factbook now has its updated population.
Firehelper
09-05-2007, 23:50
WESTERN PROVINCES

Population: 12 Million Each Province.

+ Population.
+ Infrastructure.
+ Economy.
+ Technology.

- Natural Resources.
- Oil.
- Agriculture.

well thats really not right
Germany has several large deposits of iron and so does britain. Its only a matter of the number, type, and ammount of each recouce scattered throughout the world that matter
Infrastructure
This would be incorrect too. The least populated or neutral countries (like my switzerland) would have the highest technology and infrastructure due to the fact that they weren't nuked as heavily.
Oil- theres always biodesil, vegtible oil and what not
-agriculture withthe smaller population there would be enough land to sustain the population, the only problem is the amount of labor and transport of goods.
[NS]Corbournne
09-05-2007, 23:57
Infrastructure
This would be incorrect too. The least populated or neutral countries (like my switzerland) would have the highest technology and infrastructure due to the fact that they weren't nuked as heavily.

I don't believe Europe was bombed.
Canland
10-05-2007, 00:20
Once again I have updated the map

New changes are:
Neo-Roman Republic removed
Carloginian territory added
Fascist State of Island added

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brokenearthmd4.png
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 00:36
Formal Name: Fascist State of Island
Type of Government: Fascist
Head of State: Furher Kamph Lien
Head of Government: Leading Premier Edin Walter
Population: Five Million
Important Cities: Rapshak, Capitol
Port Theodore, Major Trading Port
Fort Militia, Town consisted of all military service men and woman

History: Iceland was a... small nation, and slowly winning their hearts towards the Fascist ideal was Kamph Lien, a brilliant man, at least socially. His ideals, and more importantly, the wording of his ideals to the common man was... inspiring. Raping Iceland's population in ignorance.

Then, Kamph Lien ran for President of Iceland, and one a sweeping voctory, even the congress fell to his alliance, and so the Fascist State of Island was born, changing very little except the disintegration of the Iceland congress, and the speed of which decisions were made.

Current Standings: ??

Military:
50,000 Standing Troops
500 Challenger II's
80 MiG-29 "Fulcrums"
And assorted mix of artillery.

Paramilitary:-:
Independent Sectional Needs:-
ISD, was originally created to tell the government what a all the provinces individually need, this ended up into an incredibly articulate organization, that was a reservist unit of two thousand men in each province.

Oh, yes and here are my claims. (Everything spray painted black)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g20/Xavier_Solis/523ez34-1.jpg

Dang it! You took my first move, Denmark!
Turbikistan
10-05-2007, 01:04
WESTERN PROVINCES

[QUOTE=Firehelper;12630000]Germany has several large deposits of iron and so does britain.

If they have a - for natural resources, It doesn't mean that they have none. It only means that it is in lesser quantity.

Infrastructure
This would be incorrect too. The least populated or neutral countries (like my switzerland) would have the highest technology and infrastructure due to the fact that they weren't nuked as heavily.

No nukes were dropped in Europe. I know it wasn't really clear, but that's what I meant by saying that only Europe "prevailed". All cities were just heavily bombed by other states, and the economy fell apart.

-agriculture withthe smaller population there would be enough land to sustain the population, the only problem is the amount of labor and transport of goods.

That's really up to the player to work with his resources. They don't have to transport goods if everyone is back to a "feudal" rule type of thing, which is how I pretty much imagined eastern europe to be. And we can't be 100% realistic, I'm trying to make this fair for everyone.


New map on first page btw.

We have passed the mark of 14 members, new members must now claim a single province.

THE RP WILL BEGIN SATURDAY OR FRIDAY.
Carloginias
10-05-2007, 02:11
Dang it! You took my first move, Denmark!

If you had taken Denmark you would of had some issues with myself. I am all for German unification and will probably attempt that.
Carloginias
10-05-2007, 02:12
Dang it! You took my first move, Denmark!

If you had taken Denmark you would of had some issues with myself. I am all for German unification and will probably attempt that.

EDIT: I like the Facist Island as a buffer though.
Carloginias
10-05-2007, 02:13
Dang it! You took my first move, Denmark!

If you had taken Denmark you would of had some issues with myself. I am all for German unification and will probably attempt that.

EDIT: I like the Facist Island as a buffer though.
Turbikistan
10-05-2007, 02:21
Added a part on immigration. Working on the history of the whole RP atm.
Marxikhan
10-05-2007, 02:31
dammit, just saw the first page, so now i have to remkae the factbook? ight time to get to work..
Marxikhan
10-05-2007, 02:35
I dont agree with the + army though, The Balken Region is very nationalist as i see it, but whatever...


and how dose the whole +, - thing work anyway?
[NS]Corbournne
10-05-2007, 02:44
Changed my nation name and factbook.
Carloginias
10-05-2007, 03:19
From what I can tell all of Europe is rather nationalistic right now.
Turbikistan
10-05-2007, 03:23
Added history on first page. I'll continue it tomorrow. Tell me what you think, please.
Marxikhan
10-05-2007, 03:31
so +,- oil and such only really counts ingame? And i still dont see the cons of a western nation...

anyhow here is my updated factbook


Spartan Federation Fact book

Formal Name: Spartan Federation
Type of Government: Military Coup with communist views on economy
Head of State: General Ares, holds most of the government power, is commander and chief of Military Operations and is seen by the people as the true figure head
Head of Government: President Tyrannus
Population: 63,000,000
Important Cities: Sparta, Fleet Anchorage, Falcon Point, Fort Nero

History: The Spartan Federation was once a paramilitary group that was in modern day Greece. The former government was a failing republic in witch no power was given to the people. As the federation began to gain more support they overthrew the government. The Spartan Federation was born. The Federation grew as it absorbed near by Balkan states. The country went threw a era of peace for a year before Gen. Ares angered local Islamic paramilitary occupying Modern Day Turkey. Sparta waged war with the Nation and ended up with two new regions under its belt. The Muslim-Spartan war gave the growing nation a since of patriotism, one that is unmatched in the world, despite the fact that the people have no political or economic freedoms and little civil freedoms. In the last few months the Federation made another land grab this time the Unorganized territory of Sicily. Anarchy reigned in this region, so when Lt. Serra declared her self governor of island, the province quickly became part of the Federation.


Government: The government of Sparta, is a simple one. Almost all power is in General Ares. The little remain power is put in the hand of the President. The President does most of the work and is the political leader of the country, acting as the Sec. Of State, Vice President and head of economics. The nations economic situation is monitored by military. People work on a variety of projects a day, from manufacturing to farming to building. Wealth and food is distributed through local “Vaults”. Each city of county has its own vault. In times of peace the military brings supplies from the vault to the people. Education is only to 14, and after that children begin to work. Only in special occasions are children allowed to continue there education.

Current Standings: The nation is begging to emerge as a new economic power house. Though it remains small on the international scale, it strives to be self-sufficient. The Spartans to not approve of relying on others. Having cut relations with the world the President urges General Ares to seek alliances, though Ares idea of reaching out to the world is conquest. There first diplomatic relation will be to find a strong allies that has big ties to oil.

Military: With a man(and woman)power of 6,300,000 , the Spartan Federation has a force to be reckoned with. An assortment of tanks, and artillery are numerous, while the navy and air force is a bit lacking. There is still a good sized fleet under the federation compared to other nations, but its army is the core of the group. In times of peace the military works on anti-military and anti-immigration issues as well as overseeing the nations economy.

4,800,000 Army
1,499,500 Navy(one of the strongest in the region)
500 Air Force

Economy: The Spartan Economy is dominated by agriculture. Crops such as cotton, wheat, grapes, barley, corn and various other fruits and vegetables dominate the countries market. Ranches also dot the landscape of the Federation. Sheep, ox and cows and pigs are the main animals that are found here. Oil is found rarely across the Balkan region, though there are a few more oil deposits in Turkey. Still they demand for oil is high. The various factories of Sparta are average compared to other nations. Arms manufacturing is the first priority, fallowed by construction equipment. In all the economy has more than enough(compared to some regions) to feed its nation, though its need for oil is high. There are plenty of Pre-war arms to go around, but oil always remains a need.

Paramilitary: Being a semi-communist nation, the anti-group is the black market paramilitary group the Blood Traders. The Blood Traders are in numerous nations thought the region. In the Federation they trade what little goods people have for tasks or other items. For example ,when food is needed, they give the region food, taking the excess manpower, or ammo with them. At first the Federation used the Blood Traders to do their job for them, but soon the people stopped relying on the government. Now days the government try’s to track down traders before they get a foothold in the region. Much to the dismay of the Federation the Blood Traders have already branched out into nearby provinces, bringing more goods into the region. Every day the Blood Traders becomes less of a black market more of a paramilitary group. They are now training there personal army almost as well as the Spartan Solders. They fight for a new military coup, one in witch they are in power.
Carloginias
10-05-2007, 04:30
So when can we start rping?
Marxikhan
10-05-2007, 04:37
friday/saturday...i cant wait...Also i will include this in my first IC post but Any high oil nations looking for food...and anything else look no further, we are looking for trading partners...I still think that the Southern Europe is screwed over the most with the regions thing tho. Im just deciding to make my nation an Argiculture powerhouse and hope i can find trading partners
Kansiov
10-05-2007, 12:10
Could you replace oil with raw materials or resources? There is way more than oil in the real world.
Honako
10-05-2007, 16:24
Hey, could I be part of this, and claim basically Italy (everywhere in it bar the part the Hungarian nation took)? Oh, and of course not Sicily, as Sparta has taken that (though I can see some friction between us due to that :p).

Formal Name: TBA
Type of Government: Socialist Ruled - Romano President For Life
Head of State: Liberatore Romano (loosely translating - first name means liberator, second name Rome - by supporters known as the Liberator of Rome)
Head of Government: Liberatore Romano
Population: 36,000,000
Important Cities: Milan, Bari, Rome, Vatican City (which is now part of the Italian country), Turin

History: Italy initially sided with Western Europe in the growing conflict, though when war became seriously they declared themselves immune to all fighting, and there democratic leader decided they would remain neutral. This move did not help them though, and they soon became venerable after attacks by Eastern European nations, and horrific amounts of bombs were dropped on the Eastern side of Italy, seeing the wide destruction of much of the cities of Ancona and Bari, to mention two. When bombs began to drop on Rome, the people of Italy began to get fed up with there democracy - which seemed too focused on keeping the economy stable to worry about it's citizens. And so, throughout the rest of the war Italy was caught up in savage attacks on it's Eastern side, whilst riots and an uprising began in the country - seeing the deaths of thousands. Shortly before the end of the war the government was overthrown and was replaced by a Socialist one with a charismatic and strong leader, compared to Mussolini, who runs the country much like the Soviet Union - grand military displays are what he prides Italy in, whilst much of his nation lies below the poverty line, with things getting worse not better after the coup, and with them to scared to defy there leader (Liberatore Romano).


Current Standings: The country, due to it's withdrawal from the war, has little relations with other countries. It shows a distaste to nations to it's east and west, though is better with nations of Central and Northern Europe. The wealth of the country is low, with much of the money spent on a massive standing military for grand shows and tough compat, whilst the nation lives in poverty.

Military: 4,060,000

Paramilitary: TBA

It may be a bit too early to do this, but its brief and Italy (mainland, though do the islands count as provinces) is only four provinces. I'll like of a name if accepted, Italy is used just for convinence. Cheers.
Anadyr Islands
10-05-2007, 16:35
Can I claim Southern Spain? What is that little green bit there by the way? Can I have it?

I just want to know before I start typing just to be denied.
Canland
10-05-2007, 19:38
the green bit of Spain is part of The Fascist State of Island,and yes you can have what is left of Spain if you make a factbook.
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 19:41
Could you replace oil with raw materials or resources? There is way more than oil in the real world.

hey i replied to your post in my factbook

Most of my friction will be with Northern Scandanavia... And Possibly Denmark... I have an Idea to get this rolling, mind if i post an IC thread tonight?
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 19:46
oh, and if you shorthen my name on the map at least shorten it to the legal abbreviation - UPSS
1st Peacekeepers
10-05-2007, 20:22
can i claim the 3 small African provinces on the map?
I know i can only technicality claim one but no one seems to be interested in them.

if i can ill post a fact book


if I'm in I'll be rping using
joethesandwich
New Undbagarten
10-05-2007, 20:38
Am I way too late to join in this, or are there still places left to be claimed?
Kansiov
10-05-2007, 21:46
No, but you can only Claim 1 provience now...
Turbikistan
10-05-2007, 21:55
so +,- oil and such only really counts ingame?.

What do you mean? And read the first page for the cons of the Western Nations. They have plenty.

Could you replace oil with raw materials or resources? There is way more than oil in the real world.

Look up the first page, there is already a "Natural Resources" category.

Honoko, you are only allowed to claim 1 province as you are a new member. Though if you are active and a good roleplayer, you should progress rapidly.


Anadyr See above.

Peacemaker Idem.

New Undbagarten It's not too late. It will be when Europe is filled.
Honako
10-05-2007, 22:23
Oh, ok, that sort of ruins my plans a bit, didn’t realise we were past 14 already! I sent you a TG Turbikistan asking some questions which I wanted clearing up.
Candistan
10-05-2007, 22:26
Would it be possible to give a few of my surplus territorial province calims to Hanako?
Joethesandwich
10-05-2007, 22:31
can i pick one of the African provinces on the map then?
Honako
10-05-2007, 22:33
Would it be possible to give a few of my surplus territorial province calims to Hanako?

If this is allowed - thanks, I appreciate it! :)
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 22:33
No, but you can only Claim 1 provience now...

i replied to you in my factbook... can you reply back?

Also, would anyone mind me kicking this IC stuff off tommorow?
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 22:34
Would it be possible to give a few of my surplus territorial province calims to Hanako?

Aww, not me??
Candistan
10-05-2007, 22:35
Aww, not me??

Three to each of you.
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 22:37
Three to each of you.

lol, I was just kidding, but if turbikistan approves, thats really nice.

Hey honako, wanna get good relations like on ESS? BTW i TGed you over ESS.
Little Honako
10-05-2007, 22:39
Well, if this generous move by Candistan is permitted, I will stick with the four claims of the remainder of Italy. I'm off now though, but will be back tomorrow (I'm on UK time) for the 'start' of this RP and to see if I have my lands.

Oh, and I seem to have switched accounts...and yeah Kamp, that was my plan. I don't like Western and Eastern states due to the war, though I want to be friends with Central and Northern ones.
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 22:52
i replied to you in my factbook... can you reply back?

Also, would anyone mind me kicking this IC stuff off tommorow?

Cough, Cough. Can i post an IC thread?

Kanisov, Reply to my message in the UPSS factbook!!! lol.
Turbikistan
10-05-2007, 23:00
Yes you can give provinces to another nation.

And to the guy who wanted africa: I'd rather see you claim some land in Europe.

And Kampfers; how do you want to kick it off?
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 23:07
Yes you can give provinces to another nation.

And to the guy who wanted africa: I'd rather see you claim some land in Europe.

And Kampfers; how do you want to kick it off?

Oh lets just say... liberation :D

and since he can give me 3 unused provinces, I will take the last 1 in finland and the 2 most southern ones left in Sweeden.
Kansiov
10-05-2007, 23:10
Kamfers, i already replied can't you see?
Kansiov
10-05-2007, 23:12
I got some Ideas African Nations

Population 1 million per province
-Technology
-Trade
-Armies
-Resources

lol...
Honako
10-05-2007, 23:13
Does this mean I can have the lands in Italy I orginally requested? If so, I'll start on just bulking up my factbook a bit.
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 23:14
Kamfers, i already replied can't you see?

whoops, ill go check it out...
Kansiov
10-05-2007, 23:18
Turk could you tell some of the guys to create a thread for their Factbook and post the link to the Main RP hub, your in EU1914, you should know.
Turbikistan
10-05-2007, 23:26
Good idea.

Hub thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526485

Copy and paste your factbook in a independent thread, and link it there.
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 23:43
So, if you could update the map so newcomers know what is open, that would be nice. And are there no objections to my kicking this off?
Kansiov
10-05-2007, 23:51
I am alright with you kicking this off, its already Friday here.
Kampfers
10-05-2007, 23:59
I am alright with you kicking this off, its already Friday here.

Well i will probably do it tommorow, so Honako can join the alliance 1st.
Turbikistan
11-05-2007, 00:00
So, if you could update the map so newcomers know what is open, that would be nice. And are there no objections to my kicking this off?

I need to know what you are going to do exactly.
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 00:04
I need to know what you are going to do exactly.

Yes, but if i told you it wouldn't be a suprise :p If you TG me, i will tell you in detail, but it stays in the TGs.

Oh, and my Navy and AF or only so good because my army is pretty bad. Other than manpower. And yes, I understand Honako is a southern nation. But we RP together in ESS and so i want to ally with him. Candistan too for that matter. TG to Candistan.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 00:04
What player is Facist State of Iceland? I want to TG him so could someone give me the name?
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 00:05
Yes, but if i told you it wouldn't be a suprise :p If you TG me, i will tell you in detail, but it stays in the TGs.

Oh, and my Navy and AF or only so good because my army is pretty bad. Other than manpower. And yes, I understand Honako is a southern nation. But we RP together in ESS and so i want to ally with him. Candistan too for that matter. TG to Candistan.

Pfft w/e Kampfers, im also in ESS but to i get an invite...or any extra claims from Candistan...no so whatever....
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 00:08
Pfft w/e Kampfers, im also in ESS but to i get an invite...or any extra claims from Candistan...no so whatever....

lol. But I aint allied with you in ESS (honako) and you dont have 2000+ posts (Candistan) :D
Turbikistan
11-05-2007, 00:12
Kampfers, check your TG.
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 00:17
Kampfers, check your TG.

replied. Can we get that map update?
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 00:21
Kampfers could you add me on MSN?
lesterwarren93@yahoo.com.sg

Once you added, i will delete this message i dont want to get spammed.
lol, i dont im...
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 00:23
lol. But I aint allied with you in ESS (honako) and you dont have 2000+ posts (Candistan) :D

/we :D :( :(


well since you turned me down...any nations looking for an alli...im looking for one too! As soon as the IC thread is up Ill make an ic announcement
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 00:30
TG 4 Candistan
Carloginias
11-05-2007, 00:39
Kampfers if your Southern Scandinavia, I would be interested in an alliance with you. TG me.
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 00:42
Kampfers if your Southern Scandinavia, I would be interested in an alliance with you. TG me.

Sigh. TGed you.
its so hard to be popular.
Im leavin 4 a while, maybe the night. peace
Armorfx
11-05-2007, 00:44
I'd like to claim the western of the two parts of Ukraine that are touching the Black Sea. I'll have at least a basic factbook up tonight. Marxikstan, I'd be allies with you. I have oil so we could trade across the Black Sea. Is that okay with you?
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 01:00
I'd like to claim the western of the two parts of Ukraine that are touching the Black Sea. I'll have at least a basic factbook up tonight. Marxikstan, I'd be allies with you. I have oil so we could trade across the Black Sea. Is that okay with you?

That would be awsome!
Carloginias
11-05-2007, 01:06
I am going to attempt to annex the rest of unclaimed Germany, anyone willing to rp it as individual states? (And Luxembourg as a buffer state)
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 01:08
I am going to attempt to annex the rest of unclaimed Germany, anyone willing to rp it as individual states? (And Luxembourg as a buffer state)

I think thats what the mod dose. If im correct i dont think he has any nation himself...Who is playing as Austro-Hungary?

And free Madrid we have very similer ideaologys(in this world). Both of us are authortarian left....Cough alliance cough...
Carloginias
11-05-2007, 01:38
My country is pretty much authoritarian. Austria-Hungary is Turb.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 01:40
My country is pretty much authoritarian. Austria-Hungary is Turb.

As i said in above post...Oh so he dose have a country...hmmm


Anyhow yah my nation is very authoritarian, so umm cough alliance cough...joking...or am i...
Carloginias
11-05-2007, 01:42
After I unite my Germany someone in my military is going to lead a nationalist coup. Perhaps you can meet with him and back him to assume control of all Carloginian Germany? Then we could ally.
Turbikistan
11-05-2007, 01:43
I am Austra-Hungary, but I haven't have much time to write a factbook yet. And no one may invade an unclaimed territory without my permission, or it would be too easy to assume full sovereignty over everything. If you're active or a good rper, I should accept though.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 01:44
hmmm...i like that...once the IC thread comes out we should get to work on that...My leader himself is a leader of coup
Carloginias
11-05-2007, 01:52
After I unite my Germany someone in my military is going to lead a nationalist coup. Perhaps you can meet with him and back him to assume control of all Carloginian Germany? Then we could ally.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 02:12
I am Austra-Hungary, but I haven't have much time to write a factbook yet. And no one may invade an unclaimed territory without my permission, or it would be too easy to assume full sovereignty over everything. If you're active or a good rper, I should accept though.

Alright that makes sence. I think people should be allowed to attack unclaimed regions but ot early on. Too many people joiing early on...
Armorfx
11-05-2007, 02:44
Formal Name: The Ukrainian State of Odesa (USO)
Type of Government: Authoritarian
Head of State:
Head of Government:
Population: 7 million
Important Cities: Odesa
History: (Still working on it)
Current Relations: The USO is allied with the Spartan Federation. The two initialy began relations with a trade agreement; specificaly oil. The trade agreement eventually grew into a strong alliance.
Military: 800,000
Army- 600,000
- The army consists of willing conscripts who are armed with Russian weapons.
- Infantry 400,000
- Elite units 5,000
- Support 25,000
- Army airforce 20,000
- Armored 150,000
Navy- 150,000
- When the USSR broke up Ukraine recieved much of the Black Sea fleet. The ships have been kept in good condition and now patrol the waters of the Black and Aegean Seas.
(what would be a realistic fleet?)
Air force- 50,000
The USO has a small air force consisting mainly of Mig-27's although Mig-29's, SU-25's(is this army?) and (bombers) are present.
Paramilitary: Dissenters have formed an organization called the Ukrainian Freedom Fighters (UFF). Much of their acivities involve raiding cargo trucks and ships. They often seem to be more of an organized crime braket than anything else.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 02:59
I am Austra-Hungary, but I haven't have much time to write a factbook yet. And no one may invade an unclaimed territory without my permission, or it would be too easy to assume full sovereignty over everything. If you're active or a good rper, I should accept though.

yeah, no attacking unclaimed territories. Yet... and omer people than the mod can RP, esp. if the mod is overwhelmed.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 04:24
Formal Name: The Ukrainian State of Odesa (USO)
Type of Government: Authoritarian
Head of State:
Head of Government:
Population: 7 million
Important Cities: Odesa
History: (Later)
Current Relations: The USO is allied with the Spartan (empire? will edit). The two initialy began relations with a trade agreement; specificaly oil. The trade agreement eventually grew into a strong alliance.
Military: 800,000
Army- 600,000
- The army consists of willing conscripts who are armed with Russian weapons.
- Infantry 400,000
- Elite units 5,000
- Support 25,000
- Army airforce 20,000
- Armored 150,000
Navy- 150,000
- When the USSR broke up Ukraine recieved much of the Black Sea fleet. The ships have been kept in good condition and now patrol the waters of the Black and Aegean Seas.
(what would be a realistic fleet?)
Air force- 50,000
The USO has a small air force consisting mainly of Mig-27's although Mig-29's, SU-25's(is this army?) and (bombers) are present.
Paramilitary: Dissenters have formed an organization called the Ukrainian Freedom Fighters (UFF). Much of their acivities involve raiding cargo trucks and ships. They often seem to be more of an organized crime braket than anything else.

Suggestions would be very appreciated.

Nice! Its Spartan Federation(got it off Sid Meyers Alpha Centarui)
Honako
11-05-2007, 07:10
The Italian Socialist Union will be looking for allies of similar ideals to them. Marx, there may be a problem with you though considering that you own Sicily, which they are bound to think is there 'rightful' land.

Sadly, oil is low for us - thats another reason I want to ally with you Kamp, as your food supplies aren't as great as ours, we expect trade - for the thing that basically keeps the world running, we'll give you the food to keep your people alive! :p
Kansiov
11-05-2007, 14:24
Honako wanna be allies?
Honako
11-05-2007, 15:48
Honako wanna be allies?

I think me, you and Kamp are signing some kind of treaty to be allied - so yes, sure.

Also, is there a general IC thread for this, as they are always useful for IC posts that do not refer to a single event? I have a few posts I might want to put in it, so it would be good if Turk started one up - I could always start one though.

And, those islands near Italy - do they count as part of the four Italian provinces, or are they provinces of there own?
Armorfx
11-05-2007, 19:29
My factbook will be up soon but I'm going away this weekend and I won't be back on until Sunday.
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 19:44
I think me, you and Kamp are signing some kind of treaty to be allied - so yes, sure.

yeah. Dont forget candistan. Go to my factbook and try to open relations Honako..
Honako
11-05-2007, 20:03
yeah. Dont forget candistan. Go to my factbook and try to open relations Honako..

Well, it's uncharacteristic for the Italian Socialist Union to be the opener of relations, plus it would probably be wise for you to invite me other than me inviting myself. :p

Is Candistan UK right? My leader is also a bit of a manic hater of Western and Eastern nations, though if the trade benefits are good enough, he will be prepared to change that stance.

EDIT: My factbook, for people who are interested: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526516
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 20:13
Well, it's uncharacteristic for the Italian Socialist Union to be the opener of relations, plus it would probably be wise for you to invite me other than me inviting myself. :p

Is Candistan UK right?

same for my country, so ill go to yours

Yes he's UK
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 21:28
The Italian Socialist Union will be looking for allies of similar ideals to them. Marx, there may be a problem with you though considering that you own Sicily, which they are bound to think is there 'rightful' land.

Sadly, oil is low for us - thats another reason I want to ally with you Kamp, as your food supplies aren't as great as ours, we expect trade - for the thing that basically keeps the world running, we'll give you the food to keep your people alive! :p
Well i MIGHT be willing to sell/trade sicily away. But i think we can get your leader to overlook that...
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 22:17
ahem.../bump is there an IC thread yet?
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 22:26
No. Someone just needs to post a regular IC thread, and then go. My detailed ic post will be up tommorow, because im going to a baseball game tonight with some friends. Unless i finish by then.
Turbikistan
11-05-2007, 23:00
I'm going to make my factbook after supper and then post a thread later.
Kansiov
11-05-2007, 23:00
Could someone tell Turk to post the link to the Hub thread on the 1st page?
Honako
11-05-2007, 23:07
I'm going to make my factbook after supper and then post a thread later.

Hey, could you create a general IC thread for all non-persific IC posts? I have one of many speeches my leader will make to post up.

Well i MIGHT be willing to sell/trade sicily away. But i think we can get your leader to overlook that...


And how could you get me to overlook it? I have no need to trade with another Southern Nation. Also, Kamp, are you going to reply to my message in my factbook.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 23:10
Hey, could you create a general IC thread for all non-persific IC posts? I have one of many speeches my leader will make to post up.


And how could you get me to overlook it? I have no need to trade with another Southern Nation. Also, Kamp, are you going to reply to my message in my factbook.

Eh...im not sure...you nation really feels THAT strongly about Sicily? Whatever. Though yeah i really don't need trade with a southern nation. And + if we arnt allies then maybe a war between us could arise....as long as i dont get pile drived as in other earths...
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 23:13
Also, Kamp, are you going to reply to my message in my factbook.

Oh, didnt see you had replied
Honako
11-05-2007, 23:20
Eh...im not sure...you nation really feels THAT strongly about Sicily? Whatever. Though yeah i really don't need trade with a southern nation. And + if we arnt allies then maybe a war between us could arise....as long as i dont get pile drived as in other earths...

Well, unlike in ESS my nation here will be completely different - they'll be quite un-democratic, and use force more than words. Thats not saying I'll wage war with you as soon as the game has started, but yes, my nation does feel strongly about uniting Italy as it once was.
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 23:21
Well, unlike in ESS my nation here will be completely different - they'll be quite un-democratic, and use force more than words. Thats not saying I'll wage war with you as soon as the game has started, but yes, my nation does feel strongly about uniting Italy as it once was.

replied to you. Yeah Marx, im not gonna sit around here, either.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 23:22
Oh, well i know i can repel any attack you throw at me. But if kampfers and Candistan decide that i need a beating, then i will be very...displeased with nationstates in general
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 23:23
Oh, well i know i can repel any attack you throw at me. But if kampfers and Candistan decide that i need a beating, then i will be very...displeased with nationstates in general

lol... No, as of the moment we dont feel that way. Key words are at the moment...
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 23:24
ok...atm workes for me....hopfully i can find some "allies" before then :D
Honako
11-05-2007, 23:30
There are ways to avoid any conflict ever arising, though the unconditional surrender of all of Sicily doesn't probably interest you much :p
Kampfers
11-05-2007, 23:36
There are ways to avoid any conflict ever arising, though the unconditional surrender of all of Sicily doesn't probably interest you much :p

Lol. Hey, i replied in your factbook. My thread is almost finished.
Marxikhan
11-05-2007, 23:36
There are ways to avoid any conflict ever arising, though the unconditional surrender of all of Sicily doesn't probably interest you much :p

Heh good one...Naw sicily provides a good port, another providence and room to annoy you with:D Though i would be willing to think about trading Sicily in for another Providence if the mod allowed it...


well i cant wait for the IC thread to be up. i plan on starting to gather nations and form A C.O.G.. That is if anyone is interested. i was hoping that this earth would be free from multi-national sides, but alas...TG me if your nation is interested in forming a union based on Defence. Sparta is very interested in seeing Replys fromThe Greater Channel Alliance, Free Madrid, The Facist State of Island, Carlognian States and The Ukrainian State of Odesa...
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 00:10
sorrry for the double post...but Kampfers you are making the IC thread right?
Honako
12-05-2007, 00:15
sorrry for the double post...but Kampfers you are making the IC thread right?

I think the thread will probs be made by Turb, as we should have a general IC thread, though anyone could start it, and anyone can have an IC thread that focuses on say and invasion or forming of an alliance.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 00:16
I think the thread will probs be made by Turb, as we should have a general IC thread, though anyone could start it, and anyone can have an IC thread that focuses on say and invasion or forming of an alliance.

I know but an IC thread is a good place to INVITE nations to join the alliance...
Honako
12-05-2007, 00:21
I know but an IC thread is a good place to INVITE nations to join the alliance...

Yeah, and if you make one, or Turk makes one, you can do that...I posted up my speech to the world in my thread, there's a bit at the end for you Marx :p
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 00:23
I saw that and i posted a comment. Once again that should be a fun RP, though i hope it dosnt end up being like the two ESS rps i was in so far...
Honako
12-05-2007, 00:25
I saw that and i posted a comment. Once again that should be a fun RP, though i hope it dosnt end up being like the two ESS rps i was in so far...

I'll post about your OOC comment in here. Basically, as part of my history I was attacked by Eastern nations, your nation was probably on there side, so I just said that. Even if they weren't, it's all propaganda anyway, so... :rolleyes: ;)
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 00:28
I'll post about your OOC comment in here. Basically, as part of my history I was attacked by Eastern nations, your nation was probably on there side, so I just said that. Even if they weren't, it's all propaganda anyway, so... :rolleyes: ;)

alright, i wasnt too worried bout it. Just making sure i didnt do somthing too bad already. Ill delete that post :)
Little Honako
12-05-2007, 00:32
alright, i wasnt too worried bout it. Just making sure i didnt do somthing too bad already. Ill delete that post :)

It was broadcasted internationally, so you can reply to it in some way if you want. Don't rush your reply though, I'm basically off so there is no point.

My country is still open for diplomatic relations, we're just having a RP that will last a few posts in there about forging an alliance between four nations, don't be put off by it.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 00:32
Oh im not...it gives me a platform for my new coaltion...
Turbikistan
12-05-2007, 00:46
I'm sorry guys but I'm not going to be able to post tonight.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 00:47
I'm sorry guys but I'm not going to be able to post tonight.

thats alright...ahem would you like to join COG? IC of course...?
Honako
12-05-2007, 10:23
I hope this world doesn’t just become two big alliances – obviously I can see Marx you want to start one, but I hope most countries remain neutral – and Italy anyway is very independent so it doesn’t really bind itself to the alliance, or hide behind it.
Lerasia
12-05-2007, 11:00
The Union of Baltic Republics is completely non aligned. we are really xenophobic. we have cut all trade, we have no exports or imports becasue we dont want any tainted foriegn influence. Our boreders are cealed so no one is enetring or leaving, though refugees are streaming across the border. they are a problem for everyone
The UBR recognises all nations but we dont contact anybody we are really isolationist and cealed and we are also do not want to see 2 power blocs or 2 major alliances. Europe should remain fractured like its intended.

Besides our governments need permanent war to control the people to divert resources into the army to keep the people poor, Poor people are easier to control than the rich people, at least our government need permanent war to or a threat of some sort to use the peoples fear to control them

and now a bit of UBR propaganda

This is our land....the workers the soldiers the farmers....this is our land, Fighting, leading, marching, dieing. This is our land. Our dreams, our hopes...our goals. Who is the menace that wants to destroy our life
Shout! shout out! yell at the demons!

(At this point the audience watching or the citizens of the UBR begin shouting
FORIEGNERS! DEATH! DEATH! DEATH TO THE FORIEGNERS!)

and on the screen it shows bizzare and dirty looking Arabs, Africans, Asians and Non baltic looking people, lieing in dust, eating rotting meat, dressed horribly in rags with stupid looking expressions

(Hey this si no offence to anyone but this future says that we are all Xenophobic and so this is Propaganda from our Xenophobic government)
Firehelper
12-05-2007, 14:32
sorry I haven't been active... I was saving my time for the running threads because of school work.....
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 17:38
The Union of Baltic Republics is completely non aligned. we are really xenophobic. we have cut all trade, we have no exports or imports becasue we dont want any tainted foriegn influence. Our boreders are cealed so no one is enetring or leaving, though refugees are streaming across the border. they are a problem for everyone
The UBR recognises all nations but we dont contact anybody we are really isolationist and cealed and we are also do not want to see 2 power blocs or 2 major alliances. Europe should remain fractured like its intended.

Besides our governments need permanent war to control the people to divert resources into the army to keep the people poor, Poor people are easier to control than the rich people, at least our government need permanent war to or a threat of some sort to use the peoples fear to control them

and now a bit of UBR propaganda

This is our land....the workers the soldiers the farmers....this is our land, Fighting, leading, marching, dieing. This is our land. Our dreams, our hopes...our goals. Who is the menace that wants to destroy our life
Shout! shout out! yell at the demons!

(At this point the audience watching or the citizens of the UBR begin shouting
FORIEGNERS! DEATH! DEATH! DEATH TO THE FORIEGNERS!)

and on the screen it shows bizzare and dirty looking Arabs, Africans, Asians and Non baltic looking people, lieing in dust, eating rotting meat, dressed horribly in rags with stupid looking expressions

(Hey this si no offence to anyone but this future says that we are all Xenophobic and so this is Propaganda from our Xenophobic government)

Nice! Anyhow yeah i really dont want to see this as two major alliance's. But COG is just a coalition to ensure that our nations dont get pushed around by other alliances
Turbikistan
12-05-2007, 17:52
I've just posted my factbook.

I'm starting a league of my own as well. Seeing as most states have Socialist Governments, I've decided to make mine a Facism Dictatorship.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 17:54
Well, not most i just know of three and they are on diffrent sides...Like i said i hope there is some independant play. I dont want to see three or four Alliances clashing
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 18:26
Hey could we see an updated map please?
Turbikistan
12-05-2007, 18:28
Hey could we see an updated map please?

Working on it, Canland was suppose to update it though.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 18:29
Working on it, Canland was suppose to update it though.

Ok, np. Can we get a list of what nations are being played by what players?
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 18:30
Has this started yet?
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 18:32
kinda...What nation are you playing as?
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 18:34
Fascist State of Island.

Nice! Would you like to join my coalition? We have been waiting for you to come on!
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 18:34
Fascist State of Island.
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 18:39
Nice! Would you like to join my coalition? We have been waiting for you to come on!

What is your coalition?
Candistan
12-05-2007, 18:39
I won't be able to get a factbook up 'till later tonight since I am going to a BBQ right now.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 18:41
COG, is a coalition formed to defend its nations against the threat of growing alliances starting up all around Europe. We will provide for each and every one of our members, by lifting Tarrifs for trade and always providing military and peacekeeping aid to a member nation in need. We currently have the nations of:The Sparten Federation, Union of Northern France, and USO(have not officaly joined but have joined occ) we have also received occ support of Carg. States
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 18:45
COG, is a coalition formed to defend its nations against the threat of growing alliances starting up all around Europe. We will provide for each and every one of our members, by lifting Tarrifs for trade and always providing military and peacekeeping aid to a member nation in need. We currently have the nations of:The Sparten Federation, Union of Northern France, and USO(have not officaly joined but have joined occ) we have also received occ support of Carg. States

Eh, sure.
Turbikistan
12-05-2007, 18:51
New map: http://i1.tinypic.com/4tqi3iq.png

Terre nationale; you're invited to join the Axis of Vienna. See http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=526634 for more info.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 18:58
Eh, sure.

Huzzah! Welcome to the COG. We will sign the treaty soon!
Firehelper
12-05-2007, 19:03
Non aligned nations:
Nations in this Alliance Will protect each other but remain neutral in any war that engulfs the entirety of the civilized world unless directly provoked into attacking.
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 19:04
Non aligned nations:
Nations in this Alliance Will protect each other but remain neutral in any war that engulfs the entirety of the civilized world unless directly provoked into attacking.

Did he sign up?
Firehelper
12-05-2007, 19:09
tis my weak effort at recruiting people....
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 19:18
sigh. it seams as if i have destroyed this perfect earth. What a great idea it was, and now a sha,ful attempt at recruting fallowers...tis ESS all over again...
Honako
12-05-2007, 19:23
Read my post in the relations thread - this sudden joining of people together with hardly any IC and no commitement to the fact we have just supposodly come out of a major war makes little sense.
Marxikhan
12-05-2007, 19:24
i know....sigh lets try to talk to Turk and get him to...suspend alliance relations for a while or somthing...i really want this earth to work out well
Honako
12-05-2007, 19:28
i know....sigh lets try to talk to Turk and get him to...suspend alliance relations for a while or somthing...i really want this earth to work out well

I have no problem with alliances of nations, but I think we need to set some kind of standard at least - for Kansiov and Kamp to be allied to took numerous IC exchanges, for me to join there alliance I have a whole thread as I am still reserved about the world after it's attacks against my nation - but now alliances are forming here there and everywhere.

By the name Broken earth, I thought this would be a bit more, broken.
Candistan
12-05-2007, 19:31
sigh. it seams as if i have destroyed this perfect earth. What a great idea it was, and now a sha,ful attempt at recruting fallowers...tis ESS all over again...

What the hell do you mean by that? ESS isn't dead because ut has been inactive for one day. Seriously, patience.
Candistan
12-05-2007, 19:41
J/W, is it possible for the Free British Republic to still control the British Virgin Islands? That would fit into my plan nicely...
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 19:42
J/W, is it possible for the Free British Republic to still control the British Virgin Islands? That would fit into my plan nicely...

I believe we're restricted to Europe...
Candistan
12-05-2007, 19:44
Damn...I hope not. I REALLY had a plan for them, but now I don't think it will work.
Anadyr Islands
12-05-2007, 20:03
Er, if Souther Spain is still up for grabs... I'll take it.

I'd like the bit that touches the Medditerranean.

Formal Name: The Sacred Union of Europa
Type of Government: Theocratic Dictatorship
Head of State: Mahdi Bahaúallah El Mukhtar
Head of Government: General Mohammed De Santiago
Population: 30,000,000
Important Cities: Granada, Salamanca, Valencia, Al Muqadasa.

Government: Though technically the head of state is the Mahdi, and the General takes his orders directly from him, the General technically controls mostly everything, as the armies are loyal to him, since the Mahdi himself is not supposed to be a warlord, though he has come to power through a holy war. This is also because the Mahdi rarely speaks publicly or is seen outside his Sacred Refuge at Al Muqadasa. There are rumors that the general is controlling the Mahdi as a puppet, or that in fact, the Mahdi is dead and it is only a façade being kept up. Who can say? However, there is little true distinction between the General and the Mahdi, since they both serve the same cause, though many are convinced that the general will seize power with the Mahdi's continuing old age signalling his mortality, thus there is little chance of a direct power seizure or rebellion any time soon.

History: During the chaos of the war between China and America and the subsequent disintegration of Unity of the former traditional European nation-states, a radical terrorist group from North Africa called the Holy Warriors of the Most Sacred Jihad, who had wanted a muslim nation to retake the Iberian Peninsula for its historical period of Muslim rule, came under the influence of a particularly notable Islamic cleric by the name of Bahaúallah El Mukhtar, who had been 'unorthodox' in thought. He was quite a radical muslim, but became even more radical during the global conflict, heralding it as the end of the world, but when Europe survived, he began preaching a different tune.

Following a series of mystical dreams, He declared himself Mahdi, a sort of Islamic messiah and began preaching not as a man of the cloth, but as a prophet. He claimed that Europe had been chosen by God for it's fertile lands and temperate climate as the new Paradise on Earth for man, and that it first must be cleansed from the unworthy before it could be retaken by its rightful owners. With the destruction of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem, he also claimed that the symbol of Islam was destroyed, and that a new religion must sweep the world. He called it simply 'Widha', which meant 'Unity' in Arabic, stating that it would be the final religion, and would finally unite the world. However, first, war must be fought with the infidels for the Wihdaites to earn their way into Heaven.

The group, filled with both extremists convinced by the holy man's words, refugees who would rather die than continue to live in present conditions and people who wished to escape the terrible blight of war, gathered a small, but professional and dedicated army, declared a holy war, launched the campaign without warning and took over a fairly large chunk of Spain. The conquest was short, brutal and efficient. Those who resisted, died. Those who spoke out, were execueted. Only those who desired to live as second-class citizens or convert were spared.

Calling the new state, Europa, with the hope that all of Europe would be united as Wihdaiste state, a new settlement was created as the capital, which was called 'Al Muqadasa'. From there, now, the small but greatly religous and nationalistic state wishes to expand.

Current Standings: Mostly hostile with their neighbors, the Meritocracy wishes to establish at least temporary alliance with anyone willing to help them. They also are considered the champions of refugees, with their stance being anyone displaced by the war may join the state with the garauntee to dedicate themselves to the Widhaiste cause. Thus, many people have fled to the state, with the hope of a better life, but with this bolstering the ranks of the extremely professional armies of the Mahdi. This also causes other indigenous Europeans to condemn them as both invaders and colonists.


Military: 3,000,000 troops. 90% are land troops( 85% Infantry, 10% Tanks and APCs, 5% Artillery) , 8% are naval and 2% are part of the air force.

Paramilitary: There is are two paramilitary groups. One is the FPEA (The Free People of Europa Army) and an underground movement dedicated to overthrowing the Mahdi and his cause, dubbed the Valencian Liberation Army, or VLA. Both tend to cancel each other out, as the first is dedicated to continuing the cause, but preventing the General from becoming head of state, but creating a permeneant council for the election of Theocratic head of state. The other simply to wish to overthrow the Mahdi and push the Wihdaiste invaders back to where they came from. However, should either gain control for any reason, the results could be disastrous.
Terre Nationale
12-05-2007, 20:08
Er, if Souther Spain is still up for grabs... I'll take it.

I'd like the bit that touches the Medditerranean.

Formal Name: The Sacred Meritocracy of Europa
Type of Government: Theocratic Dictatorship
Head of State: Mahdi Bahaúallah El Mukhtar
Head of Government: General Mohammed De Santiago
Population: 30,000,000
Important Cities: Granada, Salamanca, Valencia, Al Muqadasa.

Government: Though technically the head of state is the Mahdi, and the General takes his orders directly from him, the General technically controls mostly everything, as the armies are loyal to him, since the Mahdi himself is not supposed to be a warlord, though he has come to power through a holy war. This is also because the Mahdi rarely speaks publicly or is seen outside his Sacred Refuge at Al Muqadasa. There are rumors that the general is controlling the Mahdi as a puppet, or that in fact, the Mahdi is dead and it is only a façade being kept up. Who can say? However, there is little true distinction between the General and the Mahdi, since they both serve the same cause, though many are convinced that the general will seize power with the Mahdi's continuing old age signalling his mortality, thus there is little chance of a direct power seizure or rebellion any time soon.

History: During the chaos of the war between China and America and the subsequent disintegration of Unity of the former traditional European nation-states, a radical terrorist group from North Africa called the Holy Warriors of the Most Sacred Jihad, who had wanted a muslim nation to retake the Iberian Peninsula for its historical period of Muslim rule, came under the influence of a particularly notable Islamic cleric by the name of Bahaúallah El Mukhtar, who had been 'unorthodox' in thought. He was quite a radical muslim, but became even more radical during the global conflict, heralding it as the end of the world, but when Europe survived, he began preaching a different tune.

Following a series of mystical dreams, He declared himself Mahdi, a sort of Islamic messiah and began preaching not as a man of the cloth, but as a prophet. He claimed that Europe had been chosen by God for it's fertile lands and temperate climate as the new Paradise on Earth for man, and that it first must be cleansed from the unworthy before it could be retaken by its rightful owners. With the destruction of Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem, he also claimed that the symbol of Islam was destroyed, and that a new religion must sweep the world. He called it simply 'Widha', which meant 'Unity' in Arabic, stating that it would be the final religion, and would finally unite the world. However, first, war must be fought with the infidels for the Wihdaites to earn their way into Heaven.

The group, filled with both extremists convinced by the holy man's words, refugees who would rather die than continue to live in present conditions and people who wished to escape the terrible blight of war, gathered a small, but professional and dedicated army, declared a holy war, launched the campaign without warning and took over a fairly large chunk of Spain. The conquest was short, brutal and efficient. Those who resisted, died. Those who spoke out, were execueted. Only those who desired to live as second-class citizens or convert were spared.

Calling the new state, Europa, with the hope that all of Europe would be united as Wihdaiste state, a new settlement was created as the capital, which was called 'Al Muqadasa'. From there, now, the small but greatly religous and nationalistic state wishes to expand.

Current Standings: Mostly hostile with their neighbors, the Meritocracy wishes to establish at least temporary alliance with anyone willing to help them. They also are considered the champions of refugees, with their stance being anyone displaced by the war may join the state with the garauntee to dedicate themselves to the Widhaiste cause. Thus, many people have fled to the state, with the hope of a better life, but with this bolstering the ranks of the extremely professional armies of the Mahdi. This also causes other indigenous Europeans to condemn them as both invaders and colonists.


Military: 3,000,000 troops. 90% are land troops( 85% Infantry, 10% Tanks and APCs, 5% Artillery) , 8% are naval and 2% are part of the air force.

Paramilitary: There is are two paramilitary groups. One is the FPEA (The Free People of Europa Army) and an underground movement dedicated to overthrowing the Mahdi and his cause, dubbed the Valencian Liberation Army, or VLA. Both tend to cancel each other out, as the first is dedicated to continuing the cause, but preventing the General from becoming head of state, but creating a permeneant council for the election of Theocratic head of state. The other simply to wish to overthrow the Mahdi and push the Wihdaiste invaders back to where they came from. However, should either gain control for any reason, the results could be disastrous.

I have the area that still controls the Gibraltar state, if that's what you're talking about. Also it would be nice if you made a map of what nations you wish to claim.