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Question for all the big RP´s

FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:12
What prevents me from launching a Kamikaze (even though i know i´m going to die after)Nuclear attack and destroy the World with thousands of nuclear missiles and bombs launched from my stealth bombers and missile silos?

Just a question,doesnt mean i´m going to do anything
Vetalia
06-05-2007, 23:18
Anti-missile defenses, sheer scale, and economic reality. A nation with 212 million people, even with a "frightening"-level economy would not be able to muster enough nuclear force to totally destroy a single nation of a billion people. It could cripple the hell out of it, but not destroy it outright. And NS has hundreds of billions of people in thousands of nations; it simply wouldn't be possible for any nation to do that.

Also, stealth bombers can be shot down, especially if the other nation fields ways to detect them and its own stealth aircraft, whose pilots would be far better at detecting stealth aircraft inflight due to their own experience. And if your enemy can launch before you can, they could possibly cripple a lot of your first-strike capabilities, greatly reducing damage.
FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:27
but don´t forget that multi warhead nuclear balistic missiles cant be stopped,for example in the real world the USA does not have a defense system to shoot down nuclear missiles from Russia,because simply there are too much of them to be stopped,and also dont forget that 2,000 high powered nuclear missiles would destroy the US,or even leave China unhospitable
Praetonia
06-05-2007, 23:28
Everyone would ignore it (ie. refuse to acknowledge it happened).
The PeoplesFreedom
06-05-2007, 23:34
Except that NS isnt real life and the ABM systems here are light-years ahead of the real-world.
Vetalia
06-05-2007, 23:38
but don´t forget that multi warhead nuclear balistic missiles cant be stopped,for example in the real world the USA does not have a defense system to shoot down nuclear missiles from Russia,because simply there are too much of them to be stopped,and also dont forget that 2,000 high powered nuclear missiles would destroy the US,or even leave China unhospitable

Yes, but many NS nations are close to the MT/PMT barrier. A MIRV would not be as effective in this setting because missile defenses are far more advanced by this point and designed to reduce the risk of a nuclear strike.

And still, you just wouldn't be capable of taking down more than a single nation with such a strike. You could hurt them, but not destroy them.
FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:39
Everyone would ignore it (ie. refuse to acknowledge it happened).

Even if i show proof that i had indeed all the weapons needed to do the job?
Shazbotdom
06-05-2007, 23:40
but don´t forget that multi warhead nuclear balistic missiles cant be stopped,for example in the real world the USA does not have a defense system to shoot down nuclear missiles from Russia,because simply there are too much of them to be stopped,and also dont forget that 2,000 high powered nuclear missiles would destroy the US,or even leave China unhospitable

NS =/= real life.

And most NS nations have a military budget bigger than the entrety of the entire RL world, which would make it extremely difficul for a small nation such as yours to destroy a large nation such as a nation created in 2002 or 2003 as well as most nations made in 2004 and 2005.
FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:40
And by the way,endorse me!

http://www.nationstates.net/freeangola

Il endorse you as soon as you endorse me
Questers
06-05-2007, 23:46
Even if i show proof that i had indeed all the weapons needed to do the job?

Yes, because we're not gonna accept that some nation can just destroy the world. Sure, you COULD do it, but we'd ignore it because we don't want to die pointlessly.
Shazbotdom
06-05-2007, 23:48
Even if i show proof that i had indeed all the weapons needed to do the job?

Just a note, most people use Economy calculators to judge if a player is godmoding or not. I normally use NStracker and NSEconomy. Although it seems like they are having problems as of right now so another alternative is Sunset RPG's NS Calculator. This (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php?nation=FreeAngola) would be your budget off of Sunest RPG's web site.


Also, endorcements are done on a Region by Region basis. So someone say in my region cannot endorce someone from your region. And I cannot endorce you as we are not in the same region.
Carbandia
06-05-2007, 23:52
And by the way,endorse me!

http://www.nationstates.net/freeangola

Il endorse you as soon as you endorse me
Not in a million years after you asked this question. Even if I was a member of the nsun..Which, I am proud to say, I am not.
Crookfur
06-05-2007, 23:53
its been tried repeatly, there was a big trend for that sort of thing way back in 04/05 (i remeber the moon dodging more than one attempt to destroy it or ram it into the earth). the result of this is that destroy the world thigns get more or less auto ignored. it saved time with dealing with sorting out those antions that had rped with you in the past and accepted your existance and those nations which hadn't and which of the many natiosn on NS could be bothered with having RPs riuned.

On the technical side, the power of MIRV equipped ICBMs in RL is that currently there is no real way to intercept them in the boost phase prior to warhead seperation, but in NS there are more than enough wanked and not so wanked ways of doign this essepcailly if more than a couple fo coutnries got together to concentrate their defences...
FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:55
Not in a million years after you asked this question. Even if I was a member of the nsun..Which, I am proud to say, I am not.

WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO ENDORSE ME?I DONT WANT SHITHEADS TO ENDORSE ME
The PeoplesFreedom
06-05-2007, 23:57
WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO ENDORSE ME?I DONT WANT SHITHEADS TO ENDORSE ME

Flame. Give me one reason why I shouldn't report you?
Clandonia Prime
06-05-2007, 23:57
WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO ENDORSE ME?I DONT WANT SHITHEADS TO ENDORSE ME

u fail nub
FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:57
its been tried repeatly, there was a big trend for that sort of thing way back in 04/05 (i remeber the moon dodging more than one attempt to destroy it or ram it into the earth). the result of this is that destroy the world thigns get more or less auto ignored. it saved time with dealing with sorting out those antions that had rped with you in the past and accepted your existance and those nations which hadn't and which of the many natiosn on NS could be bothered with having RPs riuned.

On the technical side, the power of MIRV equipped ICBMs in RL is that currently there is no real way to intercept them in the boost phase prior to warhead seperation, but in NS there are more than enough wanked and not so wanked ways of doign this essepcailly if more than a couple fo coutnries got together to concentrate their defences...

Thank you for your answer
Carbandia
06-05-2007, 23:58
WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO ENDORSE ME?I DONT WANT SHITHEADS TO ENDORSE ME
That was both uncalled for, and un neccessary. Please do not do so again unless you want to join the merry band of nations on my ignore list.
FreeAngola
06-05-2007, 23:58
So Scared
The PeoplesFreedom
06-05-2007, 23:59
I reported him. That was completly rude and unnecessary.
FreeAngola
07-05-2007, 00:01
u fail nub

EVEN THOUGH I´M PORTUGUESE I CAN SPELL BETTER THAN YOU DO BEING BRITISH
Carbandia
07-05-2007, 00:03
EVEN THOUGH I´M PORTUGUESE I CAN SPELL BETTER THAN YOU DO BEING BRITISH
Dude, lay off the caps, please. I can tell you that CP only spells like that when he is making a point. (a point that was clearly lost on you)

edit: and unless I am mistaken, you even mis spelt Portugese..
United kingdom2
07-05-2007, 00:04
Don't making fun of british people FreeAngola
FreeAngola
07-05-2007, 00:04
I reported him. That was completly rude and unnecessary.

JESUS YOU GUYS CAN BE SO GAY
The PeoplesFreedom
07-05-2007, 00:10
Fine. If you want to flame and be rude, go ahead. People won't want to RP with you.
Carbandia
07-05-2007, 00:10
JESUS YOU GUYS CAN BE SO GAY
At least we are not flaming anyone..

TPF, did you use the report post button? It is usually a better idea to make a thread in moderation, instead..
The PeoplesFreedom
07-05-2007, 00:10
At least we are not flaming anyone..

TPF, did you use the report post button? It is usually a better idea to make a thread in moderation, instead..

I did. I guess I'll go make a post in moderation
North Calaveras
07-05-2007, 00:13
OCC: you should really check out News World.
Greston
07-05-2007, 00:13
WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO ENDORSE ME?I DONT WANT SHITHEADS TO ENDORSE ME

REPORT HIM! REPORT HIM AND IF YOU DON'T I WILL!!!!!
The PeoplesFreedom
07-05-2007, 00:14
I did. Relax. Breathe. Repeat. Stop typing in Caps.
Shazbotdom
07-05-2007, 00:19
EVEN THOUGH I´M PORTUGUESE I CAN SPELL BETTER THAN YOU DO BEING BRITISH

FreeAngola. Using caps all the time won't get your point across.


Now that I got that out of the way. When you said "who the fuck told you to endorce me", thats called a Flame and is against the rules. See the One Stop Rules Shop (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023) for more information on what a Flame is.
Shazbotdom
07-05-2007, 00:20
OCC: you should really check out News World.

Don't pimp your thread here.....Thanks
Questers
07-05-2007, 00:20
EVEN THOUGH I´M PORTUGUESE I CAN SPELL BETTER THAN YOU DO BEING BRITISH

Yea, if it wasn't for Britain, Portugese wouldn't even be a language anyway.
Vetalia
07-05-2007, 00:24
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
1010102
07-05-2007, 00:24
What prevents me from launching a Kamikaze (even though i know i´m going to die after)Nuclear attack and destroy the World with thousands of nuclear missiles and bombs launched from my stealth bombers and missile silos?

Just a question,doesnt mean i´m going to do anything

Well by the time you get done with half of a nation, the rest of us would hit you with more cukes than you used on that one nation.
Carbandia
07-05-2007, 00:26
FreeAngola. Using caps all the time won't get your point across.


Now that I got that out of the way. When you said "who the fuck told you to endorce me", thats called a Flame and is against the rules. See the One Stop Rules Shop (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023) for more information on what a Flame is.
Also the answer would happen to be "yourself, three posts above mine", but that's not the point, really..
Frisbeeteria
07-05-2007, 01:01
WHO THE FUCK TOLD YOU TO ENDORSE ME?I DONT WANT SHITHEADS TO ENDORSE ME

JESUS YOU GUYS CAN BE SO GAY

FreeAngola, Official Warning, flaming. Continued rulebreaking will result in forumbans, deletions, or even being banned from the site.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Game Moderator
The One-Stop Rules Shop
Romanar
07-05-2007, 01:25
To answer the original question, the biggest barrier to destroying the world is the sheer size of the NS world. If you were to launch a barrage of missles at me, I'd use my anti-missle defenses, which BTW are a lot better than anything in the RW. Your attack would surely hurt me, but it probably wouldn't kill me, and since I'm 10X your size, my counter-attack would surely destroy you. There are probably thousands of nations 3-4X MY size, and quite a few that are closer to 5X my size. There's no way a single nation could destroy everyone.
Gataway
07-05-2007, 01:44
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.

For some reason that made me laugh out loud..brillant...simply brillant...
FreeAngola
07-05-2007, 19:51
Dudes,one advice,shut the fuck up,and second i don´t need(and want)to RP ,you never see me participate in one so why should i start now?il only participate if anyone has plans on attacking me
FreeAngola
07-05-2007, 19:54
FreeAngola. Using caps all the time won't get your point across.


Now that I got that out of the way. When you said "who the fuck told you to endorce me", thats called a Flame and is against the rules. See the One Stop Rules Shop (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023) for more information on what a Flame is.

It spells ENDORSE and not Endorce like you wrote so go learn some English
Carbandia
07-05-2007, 20:04
It spells ENDORSE and not Endorce like you wrote so go learn some English
You missed the point completely. What Shaz was doing was politely suggesting you change your attitude, as it is against the site's rules.
Shazbotdom
07-05-2007, 20:23
It spells ENDORSE and not Endorce like you wrote so go learn some English

Dude. I was trying to help, jumping down my throat won't help matters. Also, if you look through your own thread, you were warned for Flaming Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12618020&postcount=37) by a moderator. I'd calm down else you get another. The last thing I think anyone wants is someone who is new to the game to get banned right off the back.
Snafturi
07-05-2007, 20:45
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.

Sigged.
FreeAngola
08-05-2007, 22:21
Yea, if it wasn't for Britain, Portugese wouldn't even be a language anyway.

How and can you tell me when did Britain helped the Portuguese?When we most needed britain (When Napoleon invaded Portugal)you stupid fucks left us on our own,you stupid fuck,even though we were allies for a long time AND BY THE PORTUGAL WAS A VERY IMPORTANT COUNTRY MANY CENTURIES BEFORE england WAS,WHILE PORTUGAL DISCOVERED A BIG PART OF THE WORLD,englalnd was a piece of shit of an island floating in the middle of the ocean
Questers
08-05-2007, 22:59
Yea, and Napoleon would have STAYED in Portugal if us and the Russians didn't beat his sorry ass.
Crookfur
08-05-2007, 23:01
How and can you tell me when did Britain helped the Portuguese?When we most needed britain (When Napoleon invaded Portugal)you stupid fucks left us on our own,you stupid fuck,even though we were allies for a long time AND BY THE PORTUGAL WAS A VERY IMPORTANT COUNTRY MANY CENTURIES BEFORE england WAS,WHILE PORTUGAL DISCOVERED A BIG PART OF THE WORLD,englalnd was a piece of shit of an island floating in the middle of the ocean

Oh you mean that time when we stopped the French from taking Lisbon, biult you a very effective defensive barrier and then drove the French army all the way back through Spain. Although i must admit the portuguese regiments of the light brigade did aquit themselves fairly well during the peninsular campaign, although not as famously as the rifle regiments.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 23:03
What i want to know, is if one of those countries (you know, one of the few original ones) with 10 billion people could destroy the world. No one has tried it yet, but that could be a great april fools trick mods...
FreeAngola
08-05-2007, 23:04
Portugal Army Lost Many Men Due To You Stupid Fucks Who Said That Were Going To Help Us And Only Came In The End When We Were Almost Devestated,so If You Call That Being An Allie,and Helping,son You Are A Very Dumb Fuck,and Don´t Teach Me Portuguese History I Know It Better Than You Do
Clandonia Prime
08-05-2007, 23:05
Portugal Army Lost Many Men Due To You Stupid Fucks Who Said That Were Going To Help Us And Only Came In The End When We Were Almost Devestated,so If You Call That Being An Allie,and Helping,son You Are A Very Dumb Fuck,and Don´t Teach Me Portuguese History I Know It Better Than You Do

Eh?
Telros
08-05-2007, 23:05
Ok, Seriously, dude. The mods already warned you once about flaming. Stop it, now, for your own good. You will get banned at this rate. Insulting british people is a quick way to get banned or have lots of enemies, as there are plenty of brits on NS.

But seriously, take a chill pill. It's good for you and you need to calm down.

Also, blaming people for their ancestors mistakes? What do you want them to do? Go back in time? Plus, it is possible, that if they HAD come in to aid Portugal, they could have lost everything and they would have fallen.

Chew on that for a while.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 23:06
Portugal Army Lost Many Men Due To You Stupid Fucks Who Said That Were Going To Help Us And Only Came In The End When We Were Almost Devestated,so If You Call That Being An Allie,and Helping,son You Are A Very Dumb Fuck,and Don´t Teach Me Portuguese History I Know It Better Than You Do

geez, stop flaming and learn to spell... (and use punctuation, capitalization, subject verb agreement, etc...)
FreeAngola
08-05-2007, 23:06
Oh you mean that time when we stopped the French from taking Lisbon, biult you a very effective defensive barrier and then drove the French army all the way back through Spain. Although i must admit the portuguese regiments of the light brigade did aquit themselves fairly well during the penisular campaign, although not as famously as the rifle regiments.

AND OF COURSE ENGLAND COULD FIGHT THE FRENCH,THEY ALREADY CAME A LONG WAY,WITH SMALL TROOPS BECAUSE THEY WERE INVADING PORTUGAL NOT RUSSIA,SO WHEN ENGLAND CAME WITH A BIG ARMY WHICH ALREADY KNEW HOW MANY FRENCH THERE WERE OF COURSE THEY THREW THEM OUT
FreeAngola
08-05-2007, 23:07
geez, stop flaming and learn to spell... (and use punctuation, capitalization, subject verb agreement, etc...)

I´M PORTUGUESE SO I DON´T NEED TO KNOW ENGLISH AND ENGLISH GRAMMAR
FreeAngola
08-05-2007, 23:08
Ok, Seriously, dude. The mods already warned you once about flaming. Stop it, now, for your own good. You will get banned at this rate. Insulting british people is a quick way to get banned or have lots of enemies, as there are plenty of brits on NS.

But seriously, take a chill pill. It's good for you and you need to calm down.

Also, blaming people for their ancestors mistakes? What do you want them to do? Go back in time? Plus, it is possible, that if they HAD come in to aid Portugal, they could have lost everything and they would have fallen.

Chew on that for a while.

I´M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!COME ON ALL BRITISH SPEAKING NATIONS VS FREEANGOLA
Telros
08-05-2007, 23:11
FreeAngola. Shut up. Just...shut up.

You are only embarrassing yourself. Calm down. One, you need to know the English language....since the entire world speaks it You don't know it, you are going to have a near impossible time getting a job. And also getting along on this site.

Next point, STOP TYPING IN CAPS. It makes no senses and only shows you off as someone who makes himself look big by typing big. Also, stop.bashing.the.british. For the love of god, all nations have skeletons in their closets. Portugal treated India like crap by forcing them to trade only with them and cornering the market. And the treatment of natives in their colonies probably wasn't too good either.

Just calm down...take a few breaths. Hell, take a break from the computer. There are different opinion on NS, its what happens on the site. Just calmly either debate it or don't say anything.
Kampfers
08-05-2007, 23:14
I´M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!COME ON ALL BRITISH SPEAKING NATIONS VS FREEANGOLA

Your going to get banned faster than hogsweat, or whatever questers old nation was called... (heh, heh, that means you'll never get it back...)
Shazbotdom
08-05-2007, 23:15
AND OF COURSE ENGLAND COULD FIGHT THE FRENCH,THEY ALREADY CAME A LONG WAY,WITH SMALL TROOPS BECAUSE THEY WERE INVADING PORTUGAL NOT RUSSIA,SO WHEN ENGLAND CAME WITH A BIG ARMY WHICH ALREADY KNEW HOW MANY FRENCH THERE WERE OF COURSE THEY THREW THEM OUT

I´M PORTUGUESE SO I DON´T NEED TO KNOW ENGLISH AND ENGLISH GRAMMAR

I´M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!COME ON ALL BRITISH SPEAKING NATIONS VS FREEANGOLA

COUGH COUGH

look through your own thread, you were warned for Flaming Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12618020&postcount=37) by a moderator. I'd calm down already.
FreeAngola
08-05-2007, 23:15
Come on,anyone of you that wants a piece of me feel free to "TRY" to attack me
Imperial isa
08-05-2007, 23:18
heres a point some of us would just nuke you then waste time sending troops
Shazbotdom
08-05-2007, 23:18
Come on,anyone of you that wants a piece of me feel free to "TRY" to attack me

I would. I'd even send in my "Black Ops" Special Operations as their uniforms are not only armored, but are also NBC Protective uniforms. Plus, even if you launch nukes at me, i'm protected by 2 Missile Defence Shields, my own and one run by an alliance I am a part of.

But. I'm not going to waste my time wiping out your nation. My military is bigger than your nations entire population.

It wouldn't be a fair fight.
Automagfreek
08-05-2007, 23:18
Come on,anyone of you that wants a piece of me feel free to "TRY" to attack me

Nobody is going to want to waste time RPing with you after this little stunt.
Shazbotdom
08-05-2007, 23:21
~~~Scratch this. Fris already handled it in the toher thread~~~
Telros
08-05-2007, 23:21
FreeAngola...telling people to attack you, is like a terrorist bursting into an army base, taunting the hundreds of troops there.

I, ALONE, could probably bring you to your knees, and my nation isn't even running yet. The fact of the matter is, I doubt your purchases can even be paid off, you've probably bankrupted your nation. Good job, have fun with civil unrest.

Also, all the stuff you say you have, you really don't. I doubt even I would have that much stuff and I am over 2 billion in population. Shazbotdom, if he wanted to, could crush you. So, watch your step, Icly.

Also, tone down the flaming, to the point where it doesnt exist. The mods get attracted to this kind of stuff and will not hesitate to ban you.