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Schneller Rabe TFK-8
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Two Seater Variant (TFK-8Z)
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Type: Multirole fighter

Country of Origin: Commonwealth of Germantly

Main Operators: Commonwealth of Germantly (500) and (250 - TFK-8Z) , The United States of Calizorinstan (200) and (2,000 TFK-8Z renamed CF-8E Fighting Eagle), The United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu (2,000 - renamed F8), The Kingdom of Kohinland (30), The Sovereign Socialist Nation of Mokastana (10 TFK-8s and 10 TFK-8Zs)

Specifications

Crew: 1 Pilot (2 Pilots - TFK-8Z)

Length: 15.73 m (15.97 m - TFK-8Z)

Wingspan: 10.95 m

Height: 5.03 m

Wing area: 50 m²

Empty weight: 10,500 kg (10,587 kg - TFK-8Z)

Loaded weight: 15,500 kg (15,587 kg - TFK-8Z)

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Armament

Primary armament: 30 mm Kester Mannlicher BK-30 Cannon

Bombs: Paveway 2, Paveway 3, Enhanced Paveway, JDAM

Air-to-Air missiles: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-132 ASRAAM, AIM-120 AMRAAM

Air-to-Ground missiles: AGM-84 Harpoon, AGM-88 HARM, ALARMs, Storm Shadow, Taurus, Penguin

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Propulsion

Maximum speed: Mach 3.0+

Range: 1700 km

Service ceiling: 29,000 m

Rate of climb: 375 m/s

Wing loading: 427 kg/m²

Power plant: 2× Turbostrahl TS1200 Afterburning Turbofans,(25,500 lbf) per engine

What's the price? The Calizorinstanian Air Force is interested in procuring 100-200 of these fighters to replace the F-4F (single seat version), and thus wishes a quote on the price for export

Bob Atwood
MOD
Calizorinstan

What's the price? The Calizorinstanian Air Force is interested in procuring 100-200 of these fighters to replace the F-4F (single seat version), and thus wishes a quote on the price for export

Bob Atwood
MOD
Calizorinstan

The price for each unit is $95,000,000. Thank you for your interest.

The price seems weird. It's about 25 million less than an F-22, and nearly 3 times the price of an F-15E. I would suggest more around 20-30 million.

Also, you might want to invest in more powerful engines. 15,500 is kinda weak to go up to Mach 3. Most planes with similar thrust/wait ratios (~1.1) do about Mach 2. And a higher service ceiling would permit a higher speed (lower air resistance up where there's less air).

Just a few notes from someone with too much time & wikipedia access.

You should add something kewl, like a Tesla Coil Ray Thingy, or a Prism Cannon.

Maybe the ability to drop Terror Drones...

The price seems weird. It's about 25 million less than an F-22, and nearly 3 times the price of an F-15E. I would suggest more around 20-30 million.

Also, you might want to invest in more powerful engines. 15,500 is kinda weak to go up to Mach 3. Most planes with similar thrust/wait ratios (~1.1) do about Mach 2. And a higher service ceiling would permit a higher speed (lower air resistance up where there's less air).

Just a few notes from someone with too much time & wikipedia access.

Your right, the price is way to much lowered to $25 Million. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

You should add something kewl, like a Tesla Coil Ray Thingy, or a Prism Cannon.

Maybe the ability to drop Terror Drones...

Stop. Playing. Red. Alert. 2.

GRAGH, MUST FINISH SOVIET CAMPAIGN ONE MORE TIME.

Your right, the price is way to much lowered to $25 Million. Thanks for the constructive criticism.

No problem. Just have lots of free time on wikipedia, and an interest in military aircraft (thank you Dale Brown).

Stop. Playing. Red. Alert. 2.

GRAGH, MUST FINISH SOVIET CAMPAIGN ONE MORE TIME.

But it's all FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!

OCC: Red Alert 2 FTW. But, COH OWNS ALL!

But it's all FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!

OOC: I'VE LOST THE BOMB, DO YOU HAVE IT?

OOC: I'VE LOST THE BOMB, DO YOU HAVE IT?

DA! *Stretches out and yawns*

DA! *Stretches out and yawns*

OCC: We should stop spamming this poor man's thread.

Yes you should, especially considering your original point was flawed. The Tesla coil isn't a "ray thingy;" it's man made lightning. The prism tower is (as far as I can tell) a collection of a mirrors and lenses that focus light, which is more akin to a "ray thingy."

Serious comment now, as far as the armament goes, you should write down how much of each it can carry, you know.

Ammo carried for 30mm gun, number of places to attach missiles to and stuff.

[OOC: I don't know if I've dropped this message in before, but I don't remember doing it. If you're interested, join the NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx). It's a conglomeration of different II and NS technology designers and it's really helpful. Well, just a thought!]

Serious comment now, as far as the armament goes, you should write down how much of each it can carry, you know.

Ammo carried for 30mm gun, number of places to attach missiles to and stuff.

Can do, I will get that in tomorrow.

[OOC: I don't know if I've dropped this message in before, but I don't remember doing it. If you're interested, join the NS Draftroom (http://z4.invisionfree.com/NSDraftroom/index.php?act=idx). It's a conglomeration of different II and NS technology designers and it's really helpful. Well, just a thought!]

Okay thank you. I will have to use that for my next design so I can tweak it there.

Office 74
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Balkan City S.A.R., United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

To: Makers of the TFK-8
From: Office of Aerial Procurement, Asgarnian Marines
Subject: Purchase

Greetings. We wish to purchase two thousand TFK-8 aircraft (to be renamed F-8) to improve the carrier-based Marine Air Contingent.

The total cost amounts to $50,000,000,000.00 USD (at $25,000,000.00 USD each).

Thank you for considering our order.

Respectfully,

General 4-S Thomas R. Lyra
Commander of the Marine Air Contingent

Office 74
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Balkan City S.A.R., United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

To: Makers of the TFK-8
From: Office of Aerial Procurement, Asgarnian Marines
Subject: Purchase

Greetings. We wish to purchase two thousand TFK-8 aircraft (to be renamed F-8) to improve the carrier-based Marine Air Contingent.

The total cost amounts to $50,000,000,000.00 USD (at $25,000,000.00 USD each).

Thank you for considering our order.

Respectfully,

General 4-S Thomas R. Lyra
Commander of the Marine Air Contingent

Order confirmed, you will receive them in 1to 2 NS week

The Calilzorinstani Air Force has been pleased at the result of the TFK-8 in military exercises, and request's for a two-seater version to be built to complement/ or replace the CAF fleet of F-15E "Strike Eagle"s, so what would we pay for a two seater version?

General Bob Macked
Calizorinstani Air Force

OOC: A graphic of the two seater would be cool too, you don't have too, just thought it would be cool.

The Calilzorinstani Air Force has been pleased at the result of the TFK-8 in military exercises, and request's for a two-seater version to be built to complement/ or replace the CAF fleet of F-15E "Strike Eagle"s, so what would we pay for a two seater version?

General Bob Macked
Calizorinstani Air Force

OOC: A graphic of the two seater would be cool too, you don't have too, just thought it would be cool.

A two seater wouldn't but much different in price, I would say around $25,600,000.

We will order 2,000 of these TFK-8s two-seaters (to be renamed CF-8E Fighting Eagle) for 51.2 billion, money sent in advance for payment, thank you for your response.

Gen.Roberts
Head of Material Command
Calizorinstan

We will order 2,000 of these TFK-8s two-seaters (to be renamed CF-8E Fighting Eagle) for 51.2 billion, money sent in advance for payment, thank you for your response.

Gen.Roberts
Head of Material Command
Calizorinstan

Order Confirmed, you will receive in 2 NS weeks